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Speaker 1: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 1: v Matt Williamson and who this is the Fantasy Football

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Speaker 1: Focus Matt. But we haven't talked to Steelers Cowboys injury

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Speaker 1: guys here for sure. So today for the Steelers, Russell

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Speaker 1: I think Romeo Dobbs has been missing from Green Bays practices.

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Speaker 3: Really bad sign. Yeah, I bet he doesn't play.

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Speaker 4: like that's probably what happens. Tray Sermons is very viable. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Yeah right. Kenneth Walker still dealing with that oblique. He

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Speaker 1: An eye on the Bijon Algaier stuff. Yeah, Bijon is

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Speaker 3: And certainly the goal line stuff too, which isn't ideal, but.

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Speaker 1: You're out there catch the he'll catch the ball, you know,

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Speaker 1: surprised if Algier ends up with ten carries to eight

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Speaker 4: And the tight end situation. I mean, I know everyone's

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Speaker 1: Kate Aughten's not it's not that terrible though, We're not bad. No,

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned autumn stats. Seven for forty seven isn't

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Speaker 3: Right, And he could score touchdown last week as anybody else.

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Speaker 1: Last week six for fifty two eleven point two points.

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Speaker 3: This landscape, and that's not so awful, right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm picking consider picking them up,

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Speaker 1: If you're playing, if you're playing DFS tonight in a

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Speaker 4: I could be the Irving could be somebody that's sneaky

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Speaker 1: And I would guess to it that now that Atlanta

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure that they were in decent shape. I'd

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Speaker 4: We're just gonna dump it off. And cousins are smart.

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Speaker 1: a lot a lot, they like the blitz. That's a quick,

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Speaker 1: easy throw. It's not pitts. A lot of teams, pits

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Speaker 1: are in long development. Yeah, a lot of a lot

434
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Speaker 1: of teams. That's the tight end. Okay, we're just gonna,

435
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Speaker 1: you know, beat this by throw it quick ones to

436
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Speaker 1: the tight end. Ray. Ray McCloud's that guy in this offense,

437
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Speaker 1: the interesting angle. Yeah, either defense, excite, you can both.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but not great. I mean, I'm not running out

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Speaker 3: to pick you up.

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Speaker 1: A lot of familiarity there, yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So uh.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, let's get to a break that's going to do

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Speaker 1: it for the fantasy football focus. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back

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Speaker 1: with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Guy and Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: and Williamson. And here's what we do on the show.

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Speaker 1: I find things to talk about where I come up

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Speaker 1: with a topic to talk about and then I throw

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Speaker 1: them at Matt.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not getting water or a coffee or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. We don't talk about it. It's free

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Speaker 1: forum Jazz Radio.

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Speaker 4: As long as MLB playoffs or something or politics or that, right.

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Speaker 1: It's always something that has to do with football.

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Speaker 3: I mean we just talk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go like we're sitting at the bar talking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what we do. We can handle that when we're at

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Speaker 1: training camp and we're sitting at the bar. Chart this

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Speaker 1: is what we did, pretty similar to this. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: Matt Pro Football Focus has come up with its quarter

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Speaker 1: mark All Pro team. Oh really, Okay, so let's take

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Speaker 1: a look and see what they got here. Interesting. This

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Speaker 1: is based off of their gratings.

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot. Yeah, that's my fight someone them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you might be a little more so a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, I would take Josh Allen. Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 4: The car has been really good. I mean those first

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Speaker 4: two games have to carry weight. You know, he was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'd have Sam Darnold before I'd have Derek Carr.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Daniels Yeah. Yeah, those guys have all been

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Speaker 4: really good. Gino Smith would be another one. Yeah, have

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Speaker 4: been really really good this year. Allen to me has

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Speaker 4: been the super somar.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Baker Mayfield has been better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, probably. I mean those first two games were great,

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Speaker 4: but they don't ask Car to throw a lot. It's

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Speaker 4: kind of on purpose, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's starting a hundred passes in four games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not they're kind of telling you a.

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Speaker 1: Lot, mathematician, but I believe that is twenty five. And

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Speaker 1: he's starting six touchdowns and three interceptions.

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Speaker 3: And some of them made those huge leads.

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Speaker 4: So they just ran the you know, ran the fourth

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Speaker 4: quarter out, so they didn't tell something they didn't know he.

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Speaker 1: Would not running back. And I can't disagree with this one.

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Speaker 1: It's Derrick Henry, who's even two, has been good. He's

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Speaker 1: probably two.

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Speaker 4: It's definitely a couple of old guys though. Yeah, I'm

494
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Speaker 4: just trying to think like fantasy drafts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Breese Hall hasn't been good, right.

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Speaker 3: Who's been a standout? Like Aaron Jones has been fine,

497
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Speaker 3: somebody like that.

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Speaker 1: But I mean the first after the first two weeks,

499
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Speaker 1: you would have said.

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Speaker 3: Kyn Williams that Night's day Chargers Dobbins was.

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Speaker 1: Great the first two weeks, and then the last two

502
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Speaker 1: weeks have been them yuck. Yeah, it's Henry by far though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Nico Collins, and I think that's fair. Argue that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fair. He leads the league in receiving by one

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. One hundred yards. Wow, I knew it was

506
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Speaker 1: number one. Third second guy Chris Alt Oh, they say so,

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Speaker 1: he kind of started slowly. He's got a ninety one

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Speaker 1: point four PFF receiving grade.

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Speaker 3: I assume he must grade well for he's.

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Speaker 1: Caught all twenty of his catchable targets. Okay through uh

511
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Speaker 1: through four weeks without a single drop. How about Justin Jefferson.

512
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Speaker 1: Jefferson has been good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean something the usual suspect, Like I would

514
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Speaker 4: not put Lamb there. He is not a bad year,

515
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Speaker 4: but he wouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.

517
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Speaker 1: Like a lot of the guys who went in the

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Speaker 1: first round in fantasy drafts year not been good. AJ Browns, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just not been good. I mean Elik

520
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Speaker 1: Neighbors has been yeah, highly targeted and good. DK Metcalf's

521
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Speaker 1: actually been great.

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Speaker 3: He's had a really good year too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I put both those guys over lave, you know,

524
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Speaker 1: like Jayden Reid has been sneaky good even when they had.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, back issues.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's brought up some numbers and done like

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Speaker 1: I would take Jefferson Jayden reed. Also, he's like the

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Speaker 1: first guy he's a chance to be, I believe, the

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Speaker 1: first guy who threw his team's first five games to

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Speaker 1: have more than four hundred yards receiving an over one

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Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing as a wide receiver. Okay, so he's

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Speaker 1: a very good player. Yeah, tight end, they went with

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely Really he's that one good game, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: must see in it. They're going with this his pro

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Speaker 1: football focused run blocking grade eighty four point one. Well,

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Speaker 1: how much of that? I know McBride missed the game,

537
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Speaker 1: but mcgrithe If you look at the offensive line rankings,

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Speaker 1: their guys are all like solid across the board. Now reality, yeah,

539
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Speaker 1: reality shows tells me that that is not the case.

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Speaker 1: One of those guys is File and I know he stinks.

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Speaker 1: How much of that is Henry and having Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: in the backfield.

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Speaker 4: Let's go back to tight ends though, who who else

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Speaker 4: is there? Like McBride plays them all maybe.

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Speaker 1: Tight ends, but in receptions by like five or six catches.

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Speaker 1: The last two games have been out great. Yeah, McBride

547
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: was really good before that. Bowers has been solid. Bowers

548
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Speaker 1: isn't a bad one, I think, I go Goddard has

549
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Speaker 1: been very consistent at least. Yeah, and he still has

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Speaker 1: more catches in Isaiah Likely Yeah, likely is not even starter,

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Speaker 1: not even Yeah, like I mean, Kohler plays as much

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Speaker 1: as Likely Now. Yeah, it's tough. I wouldn't want to make.

553
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Speaker 1: That's a brutal one. Godard flex flex wide receiver, their

554
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Speaker 1: flex play. Juwan Jennings, Come on, man, what are we doing?

555
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: Are he's on the starter? No over Justin Jefferson?

556
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, No left tackle Jordan Mylotta.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. Trent william has been good as always.

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Speaker 1: Left guard Quenton Nelson.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a problem with it. But

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Speaker 1: he's not as dominant as like. The Steelers will see

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Speaker 1: a better left guard this week in Trey Smith, not

563
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Speaker 1: Tray Smith with.

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Speaker 4: Smith, Tyler Smithler. I always get Tyler and Tyson and

565
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Speaker 4: this guy's mixed up.

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Speaker 1: He's a better player than Quenton Nelson maybe, but they

567
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Speaker 1: might be the two best. Yeah, and there I don't

568
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Speaker 1: have a problem with it. How about this. According to them,

569
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Speaker 1: over one hundred and twenty two pass blocking snaps, Nelson

570
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: has allowed just four pressures, all of which came in

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Speaker 1: the last week against the Steelers. Yeah, Steelers, that did

572
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: okay against Nelson, and that was largely Cam Hayward. Once again,

573
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Speaker 1: Nelson's lunch. He was really good in that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cam should have had a sack.

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Speaker 3: That's that.

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Speaker 1: That one should have been weird, Like Blaco is not

577
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Speaker 1: escaping from that, Come on, right, you're just gonna get

578
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Speaker 1: him hurt. If somebody had come in and blasted Flacco, well,

579
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Speaker 1: Hayward has him around the waist and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was that was a weird. It should have been

581
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Speaker 1: center Creed Humphrey really good. Fraser shouldn't be far off.

582
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Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy for a rookie, but he's

583
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Speaker 1: been that good. Yeah, I'm frying with Creed Humprey. Right

584
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: guard James Daniels, he is there. He is high grade. Yeah,

585
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: highest Pro Football Focus run blocking grade to the first

586
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Speaker 1: four games of this season. Now, he only played like

587
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: three snaps last week. Obviously the injury it's over, but

588
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's a shame. Yeah, he was playing well.

589
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been the tip of my tongue as

590
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: the best right guard in the league. But he might

591
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: see the guy that's playing there this week again once again,

592
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: might be that guy. It might be Martin. Yeh Martin.

593
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean he's always right there. Yeah, right tackle Lane Johnson.

594
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: He was really missed that they missed this week. He's awesome,

595
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: he's gone. The Hall of Fame is still good. Yeah,

596
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: I'd probably go with Penny. That's just me. Edge defenders,

597
00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 4: I'd do Aiden and Watt and TJ Watt. Okay, yeah,

599
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 4: I mean, can't be Parsons. I wouldn't be Garrett or

600
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: Bosa for me over Watt this year, I'm fine with that.

601
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: Hutchinson's been really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Interior defensive lineman Dexter Lawrence, Yes, and Cam Hayward. Yes.

603
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward's fifteen total pressures are tied for six month

604
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman this year, while his eighty five point

605
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: three run defense grade is the best at the position.

606
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Speaker 1: I say, I bet his run defense is as good

607
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Speaker 1: as anybody. He's just throwing guys around here in run defense.

608
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Speaker 1: He's been phenomenal here. Yeah, just again, Nelson's a really

609
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: good player and Hayward was better. Yeah. Linebacker Fred Warner

610
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Speaker 1: Saive Warner, that's wouldn't be Rokwan Quincy Williams.

611
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he gets overshadowed by his brother, but

612
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: he's been good. The Jet's uniform start to finish. Yeah,

613
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: makes a lot of plays, covers a lot of ground.

614
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: Don't know how that one happens. How do you have

615
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: one brother who is a monster like six five and

616
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty pounds, Yeah, and then little brothers

617
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: like six five? Oh you met Cam Hayward his brother, right,

618
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: it's true.

619
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 3: We just talked about a lot of them.

620
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Every time I see them, I'm like, those two are

621
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: brother like? How is one that much bigger?

622
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: I mean they hate there's a couple walking on the

623
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: sear facility. Yeah, similar the.

624
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: Pounce the Pouncy twins are like exactly the same. I've

625
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: seen them both side by side. They look identical to

626
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: a te.

627
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean the Watt brothers don't all look the same,

628
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 4: that's true. You know the boss do I just strange?

629
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: I thought, we Alrea stay with.

630
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: That with me when that happens though, How do the

631
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: Jags let that guy get out of the building. I

632
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: don't know.

633
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: You know, that's why you go hang with his brother, right, Yeah,

634
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: such a jaguar thing to do.

635
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: Right at cornerback Christian Benford from Buffalo.

636
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 4: I haven't studied them, but everyone's raving about them.

637
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's a pff thing.

638
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. And DJ Reid from the Jets, I.

639
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 4: Think certain has been great, even though Pickens got the

640
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: better of him. Yeah, certained to me. He's the best

641
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: corner league to me.

642
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: The guys who follow number one wide receivers Joey Porter Terrell,

643
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: those two don't do that. No, I mean the Jets,

644
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: even though they have sauce or a left right team. Yeah.

645
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: And I mentioned yesterday what Dante Jackson's stats were. Yeah,

646
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Speaker 1: Opposing quarterbacks have a forty five passer rating against him

647
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: this season, like, and nobody's talking about it. No, No,

648
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: it's been really good.

649
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: Steelers in general have been awesome against outside corner it's

650
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: outside receivers, which is Porter and Jackson, right, I mean, yeah,

651
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 4: slots a little bit of a totally different story, but

652
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: that's people.

653
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me today on the feed on on our

654
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: YouTube page, what's Cam Sutton's role when he comes back,

655
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: it will be the slot.

656
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the day.

657
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm starting to break a little bit at that position.

658
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: Safety Xavier McKinney.

659
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: I got no problem with that. He's been a difference maker.

660
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: They paid him and he's playing a lot.

661
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: Good to Shawn Elliott. Really yeah, three Steeler defenders, how

662
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: about it? Eleven? Yeah, how about that.

663
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: But I don't think he's better than Minca, but I

664
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: could understand him having a better grade by the way

665
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: they do things.

666
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: You know, that was really good.

667
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: He is a ninety one point three run defense grade. Really,

668
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been outstanding, he really has. Huh. I'm

669
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: glad he got credit.

670
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's one of the best two

671
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: safeties on the planet.

672
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Nobody.

673
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: That's he's having a very, very good year and he's

674
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: been a phenomenal addition.

675
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: And people were acting like MinC is having a bad year.

676
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: He's doing what's being asked of him on the back

677
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: end of the defense while Elliott is up in the box. Yeah,

678
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: MinC on the back end and again with somebody somebody, Well,

679
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any tackles for a loss. Show me

680
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: a free safety who's playing twenty five yards off the

681
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: line who has tackles for a loss, but Elliott does

682
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: because again, Minca allows him.

683
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 4: To be up in the box to make those plays.

684
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: So I don't know exactly. I definitely don't know exactly

685
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: how PFF grades, but I have a pretty good idea

686
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: because actually my co host Brian Peacock did that like

687
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 4: ten years ago, and he was getting in on the

688
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: bottom floor and.

689
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: It's something along the lines. I'm sure they've tweaked it.

690
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 4: Like every play you either get a plus, a minus,

691
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: a plus two or a minus two, something along those lines.

692
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: I bet most of Menca's plays are just zeros, you know,

693
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 4: like they're not pluses or minus because he's just not involved.

694
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: He's roaming around in deep middle making everybody else right right, right.

695
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: There's safeties are hard to evaluate, Like call it safeties.

696
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 4: There's a lot of tape you gotta watch. They even

697
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: find meaningful stuff.

698
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just that's just you know, the way it is.

699
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: Even the play he got flagged on for last week,

700
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: it was a hell of a play by on the ground,

701
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: right If that's if Donnie Mitchell catches that ball, Fitzpatrick

702
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: was going to dislodge it. Yes, and boy he could

703
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: have blast He could have just blasted him into the stands. Yeah,

704
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: as fast as he was coming.

705
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: Like frankly, I know this sounds dirty, and maybe it is,

706
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: but I mean, hey, if I knew him getting a flag,

707
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: you might as well make a count.

708
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, even they were going to throw a

709
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: penalty on that, he could have just he could have

710
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: crippled it. He could have destroyed him, right, you know,

711
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, that would have been what happened Jack

712
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Tatum or if this is you Cowboys Steelers of the

713
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: seventies in those days, that's a play that the free

714
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: safety is just going to kill a wide receiver.

715
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that'sked Lynn Swan what he thinks of that?

716
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Or Jack Dated by the way, make fitzp not fine

717
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: for that play?

718
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: Well, that would have been criminal. That would have been criminal,

719
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: I mean, because he's clearly not intending to hurt something.

720
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: No, No, he was trying to pull up like you're

721
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: running full speed. He's trying to like come off of that.

722
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 4: And just I mean, I'm I understand why that flag

723
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 4: comes out. I mean, I think it gets thrown more

724
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: often than not. Do I agree with it?

725
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Somebody in New York though, because we've seen this already

726
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: in games, the games that I have been at. For example,

727
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: there was a mark on Sunday in the Colts game

728
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: and I'm in the press box and there was a

729
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: punt and initially the the deep the back judge marked

730
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: it it the twenty okay, and I'm like, oh, that

731
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: was much farther. Yeah, they kicked it completely out of

732
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: bounds when we came back from the break because there

733
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: was a commercial break, they'd moved the ball back to

734
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: the out to the twenty five because somebody in New

735
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: York called him said hey, that's a bad spot. Yeah,

736
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: so why that's gonna be a tough spot? I mean,

737
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: you're on the sideline, Like where did I go watching

738
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: what the gunners are doing? Make anybody told you're trying,

739
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: You're not looking up to see where the balls need eye. Yeah.

740
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: I don't understand why New York doesn't call them and say, hey, yeah,

741
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: that's incidental.

742
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: I think it was Geene Starrator it was on the

743
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: on the coverage said I don't think that's the flag,

744
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, I mean.

745
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: That was and I know in your penalty, I get it.

746
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I know.

747
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: The thing is, though, I'm not fighting you, but if

748
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: it had been the other way around, we wouldn't even

749
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: be talking about it still, you know. I mean, it's

750
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: just that happens almost I'm.

751
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: Gonna call what's fair fair, And in that situation, I

752
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: didn't think that was a fair penalty. I've had some

753
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: other stuff that's happened when the Steelers have been the benefit,

754
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: and like, I didn't think that was past interference, right,

755
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: And you.

756
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: Know, it just I just think the flag comes out

757
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: in that instance more than it doesn't in this league.

758
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: I agree with it because it was.

759
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Because it was a big collision. Because it's scary, and

760
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: it's anytime there's a big collision, the flags automatically come back,

761
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: and I hate it. I think sometimes you have to

762
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: use your head with some of this stuff. It was

763
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: like the the the roughing the passer call that the

764
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: Steelers benefited from on their first possession. What do I

765
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: think that's a penalty worthy play?

766
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: No?

767
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, but in today's NFL it is.

768
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: That's my point on both of them, right, I mean,

769
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: I don't if we don't see less laundry, let that

770
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: stuff go.

771
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Right, you can't let the pre snap stuff go.

772
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you can't let the roughing, the quarterback

773
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: stuff go, you know, yeah, but that stuff let him play.

774
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: We got one more we got well, we got a

775
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: couple more players here. So the flex cornerback, flex defensive back.

776
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: I should say Marlon Humphrey.

777
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: I was gonna mention him with the corners. I think

778
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: he's had a great year. The rest of their secondary

779
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 4: overs not good.

780
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,479
Speaker 1: Hamilton is well, I mean he kind of near.

781
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: The other cop right, yeah?

782
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: Right? Kicker Brandon Aubrey be Aubrey or boss. Here's what

783
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't get. Aubrey has earned a ninety four point

784
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: seven field goal grade thus far this season. How do

785
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: you give it? Boswell's only miss was from sixty two

786
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: freaking yards. He has five or five kicks of fifty

787
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: or more yards? Yeah, how is his grade not better

788
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: than ninety four point seven? Yeah? Aubrey also has missed

789
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: a kick exactly, and I bet it wasn't sixty two yards.

790
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean he's kicking outdoors.

791
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: I say, how do you give a field goal grade?

792
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Period? I don't know.

793
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: Got my point like it better not be well? He

794
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: missed two more more wide.

795
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: It was the next guy resent on the middle, Like,

796
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: come on, how different is this than your field goal percentage?

797
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: You know, boss?

798
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 3: Like, I mean they're both awesome. I mean they both

799
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: have one miss.

800
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: But how is one? I don't know where Aubrey's miss

801
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: is from, but I'll bet it wasn't sixty two years.

802
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: I think it was like fifty one or something like that.

803
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: So how does he have a better grade than Boswell,

804
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: it's not like he's got who is kicking out? That

805
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: part is impressive to Aubrey's kicking indoors, there has to

806
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: be a kicker that hasn't missed this year either, Yeah, I.

807
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: Mean, why isn't that they How do they have a

808
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: below one hundred grade or whatever?

809
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: Then h punter JK. Scott of the Chargers, Okay, okay, yeah,

810
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: that's fine. They have a returner kick returner Cavante Turpin

811
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. Got a lot of opportunities. There you go,

812
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: it's and then he's been good. Yeah, he's been good.

813
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: And Jolanni ty I is the special teams player from

814
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Okay, opinion on a lot of opportunities because

815
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: runs down on punts a lot, not as many kickoffs, right,

816
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: probably is on a lot of kickoffs. He has a

817
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 1: ninety point eight He's played thirty nine snaps, with thirty

818
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: eight coming on punt coverage a lot. There you go,

819
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: thirty eight punts in four games. Neat opportunity a lot.

820
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: That's the thing I mean, like just like kickoff returners. Yeah,

821
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: well Patterson might be the best kickoff turner in the league,

822
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: but you never know. You won't know. He hasn't nobody.

823
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's get through a break. He is the

824
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson.

825
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 4: I am Dale Well representative James Daniels and yeah Elliott Elliott,

826
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah nice, absolutely, Uh, We're gonna get through a break.

827
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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to

828
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Speaker 1: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

829
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Speaker 2: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

830
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

831
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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

832
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is de

833
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. And I just looked up the kick that

834
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: Brandon Aubrey missed last week at MetLife Stadium outdoors outdoors. Yeah,

835
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: k won fifty one yards. Child's played for nothing to it.

836
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: I do think they're the best two kickers in the league. Yeah,

837
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: I would agree, and that could be a factor on Sunday. Yeah,

838
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: and you know, Aubrey does some crazy stuff. The Boss

839
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, I mean they've both been really

840
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: good and can't argue that. But how I don't know

841
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: how Aubrey's field.

842
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: Goal you get a better grade?

843
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: But whatever, Right, that doesn't make a whole lot of

844
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: sense to me.

845
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: No, I don't have any clue how they come up

846
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 4: with that number, nor do I really care at this point,

847
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, field goal percentage and where

848
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 4: you missed from is pretty much all I need to know.

849
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: And whether Yeah. Uh So, we have a sixty senior

850
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: members of the former NFL players who made it to

851
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: the list for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class

852
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. Have some Steelers among that. They

853
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: narrowed that down from a list of one hundred and

854
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: eighty two nominees.

855
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: You can nominate anybody.

856
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Anybody could be not h Yeah, yeah, so the quarterbacks

857
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson, Charlie Connery, Roman Gabriel, Jack Kemp, Jim Plunkett,

858
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: Ken Rooton for Anderson not against Steelers, but I think

859
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: he should have been in already. Jim Plunkett also won

860
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. He's the only one I think that

861
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: has not gotten in has two Super bowl that has

862
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: been eligible to be in.

863
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eli, we'll see you know.

864
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah right, that's actually been up at running back,

865
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: Alan Emich, Otis Anderson, Larry Brown, Roger Craig, Chuck Foreman,

866
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: Uniontown native, cecil isabel and Paul Tank Younger.

867
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 4: I always thought Craig had a pretty good shot whenever

868
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: he was or a pretty good case when he was

869
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: eligible for the normal how you call that, But he

870
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 4: was way ahead of his time as a receiver in

871
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: the early eighties on Super Bowl team.

872
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, wide receivers and tight ends, Sully lump them together,

873
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: Mark Clayton, Isaac Curtis, Boyd Dowler, Henry Ellard, Harold Jackson,

874
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: Billy White Shoes, Johnson, Stanley Morgan, Art Pole, Sterling, Sharp,

875
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: and Otis Taylor.

876
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 4: None of those really stand out to me like the

877
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 4: other positions. But Sharp was unbelievable. It's just such a short.

878
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: Stretch, just a short stretch, and yeah, I too short.

879
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna like Lewis Lips, was you know, yeah,

880
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean Sharp might have been the best receiving in

881
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, for a while though an offensive lineman,

882
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: Ed Boudet ox Emerson. How about that name, don't know him,

883
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Bill Freelick, Chris Freck was already in. Now he's in

884
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 1: the college football Yeah, oh yeah, Chris Hinton, Joe Jacobe,

885
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: he's got a chance, Mike Ken, Bob Kuchenberg, George Coons,

886
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: Ralph Neely, Dick Scharf Farth, I'm not Jim Tyre and

887
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: Al Wistard.

888
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: Jacoby and Freylick. Again, I thought Freleck was in. Yeah,

889
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: Freylek was awesome. Did he not play long?

890
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: If I played at least ten years or so, Yeah,

891
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: Jacoby would be the third one off that Hogs line.

892
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: How about this defensive line group, Elsie Greenwood.

893
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance.

894
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ed too Tall, Jones, definitely this chance. Jim Marshall. Yeah,

895
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: these guys are Harvey Martin. These are all legit. These

896
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: are all legit dudes, right right, you know, maybe you

897
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: might want to put I mean, you talk about the Steelers,

898
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: and of course the Steelers play Cowboys this week. The

899
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: Steelers slash Cowboys of the seventies like all the Hall

900
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: of Famers, right yeah, and people will being like no

901
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: more from these teams. I think that hurts Greenwood and

902
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: Martin and too Tall and even Jim Marshall. Like Jim

903
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: Marshall went the four straight Super Bowls.

904
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a purple people eater.

905
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Leslie O'Neill he was really good too. Yeah. I

906
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: think he had one hundred sacks. And Bill Stanfield, Okay,

907
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about Bill linebackers, Carl Banks, Maxie Bond,

908
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: Bill Bergie, Joe Fortunado, Larry Grantham Leroy, Jordan, Clay Matthews,

909
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: Tommy Nobus, Andy Russell made the cut, Pat Swelling and

910
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: Phil Villa Piano.

911
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: Nobus was really good playing at Villa.

912
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: Pianos this weekend airport. You know his movie That is

913
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: No Thing You Do. I have not seen playing at

914
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: Villa Pianos out by the airport, a little group of

915
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: eerie that hits it big with one hit Wonders actually

916
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: called the Wonders. There you go. I know you was talking, Tom.

917
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: That sounds Great's good movie, Okay.

918
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: I don't doubt it.

919
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't love the linebacker crop the line stronger defensive

920
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: backs Dick Anderson, Deron Cherry, Pat Fisher, Lester Hayes, Albert Lewis,

921
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: Eddie Medore, Lamar Parris, and ever some walls.

922
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: It's hard not to like Lesser Hayes, even though he

923
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 4: was a raider. He was nasty, stick him dripping all

924
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: over him, cheated stick.

925
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: It's loud back then. Yeah, just special teams. If this

926
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: guy makes it, I am going to scream at the

927
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: top of him if he if he makes it over

928
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: some of these others we've had this speciality ones you mentioned. Yeah,

929
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Nothing against Steve Tasker. He's a was a

930
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: great special teams player. Yeah, but the Bills didn't play

931
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: him on offense for a reason. And if he was

932
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: that good of a special teams player, maybe they'd have

933
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: made him a defensive back, right like these core special

934
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: teams Bennet's not on here anywhere. And he was a

935
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: much more you know.

936
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: And he played ten STAPs of game problem. Yeah, I

937
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: bet he's a pick.

938
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: Shane Conlin isn't on here. Shane Conlin was a bear

939
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: cog on the on those right, like le every down players.

940
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I bet taxers would be the pick.

941
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 4: Oh my head would spin because this is an easy

942
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 4: way to sneak him in without taking away from a ELI.

943
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: Or somebody a bunch of bs.

944
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: If that happens, I'm with you, I would not.

945
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: There's ten names there, at least to a dozen guys

946
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: who should be in the Hall of Fame off of

947
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: this list who aren't.

948
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 3: That's what I say. And he's definitely not one of them.

949
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: He's not one of them.

950
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there's ten names there. If they that's the pick,

951
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 4: I'll be like good.

952
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson or Steve Tasker, Roman Gabriel or Steve Tasker. Yeah, yeah,

953
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: not even close. That's just two of the quarterbacks, you

954
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: know again, Bill Fralick or Elsie or ye too tall, Right,

955
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. But anyways, Matt, hopefully it's good news for

956
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: Andy Russell and uh well Elsie Greenwood making the cut.

957
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: I think Elsie guys a better chance of the two, probably,

958
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: But you know that's Andy Russell was really good, really good, Yeah,

959
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: really good.

960
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 4: He was like the only good player. Truck no inherited almost,

961
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 4: I mean, but Manfield, right, I.

962
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: Mean, there's there were some guys there, but Russell. When

963
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: you talk about the defense, he was the team captain.

964
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: He was the you know, he was the other linebacker

965
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: with Ham and Lambert, and you know.

966
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: Ham and Labor were rookies and you don't think of

967
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: them ever being young and not knowing what they're doing. Russell, right, So,

968
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: Mansfield and Webby would like, you get the first quarter,

969
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: I get the second quarter, you get the third quarter,

970
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 4: I get the fourth quarter. Because he was a really

971
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: good player. But then like, who's this Webster character? We

972
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 4: would keep him off the field, you know.

973
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyways, that's going to do it for the

974
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: show today. Good luck to all his men. It's a

975
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: shame that only I think, I think only one can

976
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: make They won make it that one year they put

977
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: ten in. Oh, they'll have three. See, they'll have three

978
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: senior finalists for possible selections, so they'll be could be

979
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: three as many as three.

980
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: Oh, it doesn't go from three to one. Who goes three?

981
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: And then the voters get the vote on those three

982
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: guys they narrow it down. Prediction Taskers is going to

983
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: be one of those. Oh that's my prediction. I won't

984
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: like that.

985
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 3: No, doesn't mean he's gonna get in. I think he'll

986
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: be one of the finalists.

987
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: Yuck, yuck. Anyways, for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin

988
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: Miller here on site keeping us on the air, and

989
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,040
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990
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Speaker 1: your TV or your laptop or wherever you're watching. Maybe

991
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Speaker 1: you're watching it on your phone. I don't know. Yeah,

992
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