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Speaker 1: the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. I'm Chad Moment,

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Speaker 1: chief Content Officer of the Action Network. Welcome to our

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Speaker 1: friends listening live on AMP right now. I am joined

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Speaker 1: as I am for every episode by my bff, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my compadre, professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Hello Chad.

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Speaker 1: How isn't it nice to no two days a week?

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Speaker 1: Someone is going to introduce you as if you are

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Speaker 1: a championship fighter walking into the ring. Yeah, but obviously

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Speaker 1: I wish it was the guy who's the famous guy

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Speaker 1: that does Yeah. I mean that that would really make it.

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Speaker 1: But you're not. You're not a bad stubborn chat. Well,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Listen. We did the show on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We broke it down, We started to indicate our leans.

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Speaker 1: We had a foxhole bet Pats plus three and a half,

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Speaker 1: hearing a lot of conversation about wise guys likeing that

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Speaker 1: this week Simon says, was Eagles plus five and a

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Speaker 1: half very interesting conversations on that. This week Execut Decivision

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Speaker 1: was Cults plus four. Unfortunately that is now Cults plus five.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty frustrating. We're gonna talk about that. We still

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Speaker 1: over one of big balls. We'll get into Scoot You

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Speaker 1: Let Money Around, Round Robin Parlay Simon. Before we do

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Speaker 1: all that, I gotta remind people that on Tuesday, if

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Speaker 1: you listen on this Tuesday, we will be going live

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Speaker 1: at ten a m. Eastern, that's December Tuesday. In an

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Speaker 1: Eastern reminder, we will put the pics in the app

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Speaker 1: follow phase five. We will do this on Saturday. We

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Speaker 1: have convinced me Saturday morning eleven a m. Eastern. After that,

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Speaker 1: Simon and I will chat. We'll put in our final

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Speaker 1: five Saturday morning for the contest, follow the phase five

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Speaker 1: in the Action Network out. Before we get to anything,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get two sharp calls Hello, who's there? I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: Usually some weeks I'll get tons of calls um because

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Speaker 1: there'll just be a lot of guys want to hear

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Speaker 1: what other groups are on and vice versa, and guys

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Speaker 1: want to get bets down. That's mainly what my deal

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Speaker 1: I'm the guy to call it chat. So this week

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Speaker 1: gonna be wake up Sunday morning. They're gonna be a static.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have all that money in their counts stuff

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Speaker 1: from the week before, and they're gonna be like, well,

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Speaker 1: here are the Bengals again. Another easy number. Give me

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Speaker 1: three against the Patriots team that I mean, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: they've looked embarrassing in certain games. I mean that to

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Speaker 1: lose that game, I did think we're gonna get a

435
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Speaker 1: nice bump. I thought this would be maybe four. Um.

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Speaker 1: The fact is that three. My only issue is it's

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Speaker 1: the same thing with Tennessee and the Chargers. Last week,

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Speaker 1: me and Chad talked about taking Tennessee. We love Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: We thought that was a great number three three and

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Speaker 1: a half. It was two and a half in the contest,

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Speaker 1: we avoided it. What happened, the game landed on three.

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Speaker 1: So that's the same thing here where I love the

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Speaker 1: Patriots at three three and a half, mainly three and

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Speaker 1: a half. It's two and a half. Just just just no,

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Speaker 1: there's no play there. Because I make this number three.

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Speaker 1: My value shifted to the Bengals. But I just feel

447
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Speaker 1: like this is a game they're gonna drop. Like it's Joe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we came to the year I put Joe

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450
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Speaker 1: my homes, who did I want? And it was him,

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Speaker 1: just in the fact that he is Joe, cool man.

454
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Speaker 1: Like they were down seventeen, nothing, didn't miss a beat

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Speaker 1: against that Bucks team, never got flustered, kept trust in

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Speaker 1: the process. Like you just said, didn't have a good game,

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Speaker 1: did not have a good game that offense, and I

458
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Speaker 1: have a good game but they capitalize on all those opportunities.

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Speaker 1: I mean they get the ball on the red zone.

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Speaker 1: They used to not you know, used not used to

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Speaker 1: kick field goals. Now they're scoring touchdowns. Man are they

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Speaker 1: do for letdown game? Like eleven and one at s

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Speaker 1: on a team that went to the Super Bowl last year?

464
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Speaker 1: That just doesn't happen. The books are smarter than that.

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Speaker 1: So to me, you're getting a good number and in

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Speaker 1: a spot of them having a letdown spot. So if

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Speaker 1: you could still get the three and a half, of

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Speaker 1: course you have to grab that right now. If you

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Speaker 1: It really is. It doesn't get higher than this, Like

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Speaker 1: it does feel like the time to get off. But

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Speaker 1: Colts for two seconds. It's my executive decision. When we

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Speaker 1: the cults it for. It doesn't matter to me who's

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Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Yeah, obviously, my biggest issue is the fact

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Speaker 1: that he hasn't been with the first team like that.

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Speaker 1: Like brock Purty, that was a big deal. This kid

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Speaker 1: all summer because he had Garoppolo holding out, and then

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Speaker 1: and as soon as trailance went down, he was back

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Speaker 1: in the training camp, back practicing with the team again.

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty. Nick Folis had the opposite of that. They

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Speaker 1: literally shunned them. They had him not in the facility

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Speaker 1: all the off season, and when they did bring him back, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll put you on the practice squad and do whatever

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Speaker 1: we make our third stringer. What the hell was that

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Speaker 1: kids named Sam Ellinger Ellinger behind him behind him? The disrespect.

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Speaker 1: So I love Nick. I know exactly what I'm getting

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Speaker 1: from Nick. He isn't the ultimate gamer. This is the

539
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Speaker 1: kind of guy you want to have in this game.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I'll be taking the five guys. Well. I

541
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: will not be shocked if we get a total egg

542
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Speaker 1: laid by Nick Foles here, because it's just a lot

543
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Speaker 1: to ask of a guy being you know, sat this

544
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: whole season not working out with these guys. But this

545
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: is like such a great matchup for him to come

546
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Speaker 1: into where discharge of defense cannot stop the run and

547
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of injuries to their secondary, so

548
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: he'll be able to pass it. So the buy we

549
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Speaker 1: joked all the time by buying low, So that was

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Speaker 1: I guess. For the Colts, they now are down to

551
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Speaker 1: their third string quarterback after I mean, are you in

552
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Speaker 1: the worst loss? So I don't even touch on I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the human thing Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if that's it of his career, That's

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Speaker 1: that's literally how they're gonna do this guy, that his

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Speaker 1: end of his career is gonna end that way. That

557
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: was the first thing I thought of check because that

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Speaker 1: was the reason I loved this spot so much for

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Speaker 1: the Colts, was like, this is a great bounceback spot

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Speaker 1: for Matt Ryan. That's gone now, Like there, I think

561
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Speaker 1: they're sticking him on the practice squrd wherever it is.

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Speaker 1: He's off the team at this point, UM stow them

563
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Speaker 1: on it like like you just said, it's up the

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Speaker 1: five now. I can't pass on that value against the

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Speaker 1: Chargers team that just plays close games, especially against the

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Speaker 1: cold team that plays colse games. I mean that's what

567
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: they've been all season. I mean, I'm trying to think

568
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: the blowout they had. It was a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: What was that Dallas? That was a close game. I

570
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: mean that was like a twenty nineteen game. But scored

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Speaker 1: these before. They scored thirty points in the fourth quarter. Um,

572
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: but we saw the following week the Colds team bounced

573
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Speaker 1: back and we made money on them that week. So

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00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: same thing here, Like we have a bunch of teams

575
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Speaker 1: we ride there rhythm this whole season. This is usually spot.

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Speaker 1: We back the Colts at home in a primetime game

577
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: and it's good to us. So we could be stepping

578
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Speaker 1: in check because we have Nick Foles now and that

579
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: kind of screws with the numbers in the spot. But

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Speaker 1: I can't avoid it. It's like one of those games

581
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Speaker 1: I just have to play because I'm playing it all season.

582
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Speaker 1: So if it's five in the contest, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard for me and Chat not to take. That's a

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Speaker 1: great number in this matchup, so hard. I also, Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles is a professional quarterback, right like, and not just

586
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Speaker 1: that professional backup quarterback. It's his job to come in

587
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Speaker 1: for a game or two, fit in with the system,

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Speaker 1: make the right throws, make the right decisions, keep his

589
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Speaker 1: team in the game. You know better than anybody as

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Speaker 1: an Eagles fan. He's not a starting quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and that's when he gets exposed is when he's a

592
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Speaker 1: consistent starting quarterback. So I don't worry about his reps.

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Speaker 1: I don't worry about his time on the practice field.

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Speaker 1: It's big dick, Nick, all right. We haven't done a

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Speaker 1: big balls, by the way, so and I'm feeling like

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Speaker 1: we might have to double up here because the Eagles

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Speaker 1: could end up being our big balls if we decided

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Speaker 1: we're staying on them even though they're also here. Simon says,

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Speaker 1: I mean I have a couple like, there's there's two

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Speaker 1: games I could see. I could see there are big balls,

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Speaker 1: But do you want to do the cow was Eagles first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought, Stucky. I listened to the Action Network podcast

603
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Speaker 1: What's Up? Well, I'm gonna tell you Stucky in Raybon

604
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: do the Action Network podcast, they'll do the Sunday six pack,

605
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: in which they each give their three best games. Stucky

606
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: loved the Cowboys. He feels like the Eagles are in

607
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: a spot where I'll quote, they don't want to show anything.

608
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: They got half the roster not practicing this week. Um

609
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts officially out. It has the makings of a

610
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Speaker 1: game where they just want to put someone on the field,

611
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Speaker 1: but they don't necessarily care if they win or lose.

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Speaker 1: Ah Gardner Minshew did not did not practice as much

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Speaker 1: this week because he was at Mike Leach's funeral. So

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Speaker 1: his take was that all the circumstances lead to the

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Speaker 1: Cowboy aways minus four and a half. I mean, that's fair,

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Speaker 1: Like I ever heard the argument too, but it's just

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like it's Dallas week, Like

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Speaker 1: these players know how much Eagles fans absolutely hate the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and you know, no shock they've heard all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, like just last week, Michael Parsons is

621
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622
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Speaker 1: guys got mad about that. They were making commidents about

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624
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: getting ready for the Bears and they're talking about that. Um,

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00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see the Eagles overlooking this one. Uh.

626
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Speaker 1: And it is technically a game we need. We need

627
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Speaker 1: to win this game to lock up the division and

628
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Speaker 1: be the one seat. So ah, to me, like we

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Speaker 1: already talked about, I loved I love the Cowboys in

630
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Speaker 1: the spot because it was it was going to mean

631
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Speaker 1: more to them, especially after that loss in overtime. This

632
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Speaker 1: was gonna to be a great bounce back spot for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys at home under a field goal. That to

634
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Speaker 1: me was all the value where you're like, we're catching

635
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Speaker 1: under a field goal, um deck that there is allowed

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Speaker 1: to prove. But what is this year? Seven for dec

637
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Speaker 1: and he's one in three in the playoffs. So they're

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Speaker 1: just they're just gonna be a lot more sense of

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Speaker 1: urgency with the Cowboys, Like I agree with him on

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00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: that where they were gonna be the hunger and more

641
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: desperate team, but with Hurts out, I just feel like

642
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: that's such a rallying point for this Eagles team and

643
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: not shocking. The public would be all over it because

644
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: we all thought it might be Hurts. So the money

645
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: you saw pouring in the last two days with all

646
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: Eagles money, because the off chance of Hurts Wood is

647
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna be in, you're getting a great number. Like the summer,

648
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: we'll probably go down to three if it was a

649
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: banged up Hurts playing this game, it's not so now

650
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: it's always back up to six. Obviously, we gave up

651
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: the bad number. That sucked. Um, that does happen. I mean,

652
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: we're human. We make mistakes and that was one of those.

653
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: That's out of our control. Uh six six and a

654
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: half in the contest, Chad, how do we pass on that?

655
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you love that. So I agree with what's

656
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: stuck he's saying, But there's some parts of it where

657
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: it's like he should know better. He's a Ravens fan.

658
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: The Ravens had a backup QB when they went down

659
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. Did they kind of flown that one in

660
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Helen though they played even harder. And that's that's how

661
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: I feel like most teams they rally around that backup quarterback.

662
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: It's just a rallying cry for the team. I will

663
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: tell you I have no fear of taking the Eagles

664
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: in this game. I listen to what stuck he said

665
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: on Action Network Pod. Don't disagree, but I feel like

666
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles are a better coached, better all around team,

667
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: a lot of pride, and I like, like Gardner Minshew

668
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: in one game, he's a fucking wild card. Man. You

669
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: take it at four and a half, though, I would

670
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: want to see what else is out there right like

671
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: we have we We'll see what the Bears numbers at.

672
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: We'll see what the Pats numbers at. We haven't talked

673
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: about Washington. We'll see what the Packers number is at.

674
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: You know who knows? Can we get Carolina at three? Um?

675
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: Are we gonna be able to get me ton Soda

676
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: at three? Like, there's a couple of things that I

677
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: think we need to sort of see how things play out. Um.

678
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the Washington game? Yeah?

679
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Because to me that might feel like a big balls

680
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: that is the big balls better the week taking myself,

681
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: I didn't make that our Simon says, are foxible because

682
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: seven and a half it felt like that was gonna disappear,

683
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: and it did I mean that maybe, yeah, you can

684
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe find it. But I could just see this number

685
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 1: going at six and a half, and that's exactly what

686
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: it should be in this matchup where yes, the Fortins

687
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: are the cream of the crop, They're one of the

688
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: better teams in football, but Washington is also a playoff team,

689
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: and we've seen them kind of rallying these games where

690
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: then losing by eight points wherever that was against the Giants,

691
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: that's like a blowout for Washington. They just this whole year,

692
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: they've just been in these really close games. And we've

693
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: seen his whole career. Shanahan at home is a big favorite.

694
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: Struggles like for some reason, that's when he struggles, and

695
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: it's always kind of been that way. So not surprising

696
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: that this is gonna be a pros versus joes. I mean,

697
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: the public is going to be all over the forty niners.

698
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: This is one of the most tease teams this week.

699
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: It's one of the most money line that teams this week.

700
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: Shocked to no one. I love this game as an upset,

701
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: just a total out of nowhere. Everyone's off Washington after

702
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: a bad primetime game. People are all in on the

703
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: fourty nine Ers. They are. I mean they probably are

704
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: now the most beat team over these Niners. Yeah, just

705
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: because Hurts got hurt. I feel like people are gonna

706
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: come in now on the Niners because that that gives

707
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: them a little bit more confident, which is fair to me.

708
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: Like if Hurts is out for five weeks, he doesn't

709
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: plan until the first time he's in the playoffs, that's

710
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: a huge deal. So makes sense for all the love

711
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: of the forty Niners. But this is an exact time

712
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: this team has a letdown game. So uh, I wish

713
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: we had the seven and a half, would take it

714
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: down to six and a half. So I feel like

715
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: you can grab the seven right now. That's perfect for

716
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: the big balls better the week, Uh pros Joe's you

717
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: said it's the bets on the nine or the money

718
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: on the Commander's Uh, I think you you made a

719
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: really good point. Kyle Shanahan as a big favorite at

720
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: home is almost an auto fade. And I don't have

721
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: the exact a t S record in front of me.

722
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I could say blah blah blah, blah

723
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: blah blah. Coming back to this week. This is a

724
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: a coach who when his teams have big leads. We've

725
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: seen it, and our big favorites. His decision making tends

726
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: to get a little more conservative, brilliant offensively, everyone knows.

727
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm like a Kyle Shanahan, stand right. I love the guy.

728
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: I think he's brilliant, but this is an achilles heel

729
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: for him these spots. Also, it's a low total, and

730
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: I think when you have low totals at thirty eight

731
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: thirty eight and a half and you have a relatively

732
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: high side, in this case a touchdown or more, the

733
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: books are basically telegraphing take the underdog because they are

734
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: expecting the big money on the favorite. So and that's

735
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: the big the big best on the favorite. And that's

736
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: what we're seeing here, big balls better the week, Washington

737
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Commanders plus seven. Now have you bet anything along these

738
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: like small home teams like the Carolina Panthers catching two

739
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: and a half three at home? You touched that at all?

740
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: I did not bet that. Instead, I bet the under

741
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: in that game. You touch Pittsburgh against Vegas has not

742
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: touched Pittsburgh Vegas at all because the entire oh it's

743
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: a two, now, so that was that was a split game.

744
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: I know a really smart group on Vegas. I told

745
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: them straight up, I love Pittsburgh here. I'm not gonna

746
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: throw in our contest. I respect these guys, but I

747
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: love this spot for Pittsburgh catching catching this Vegas team

748
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: outdoors in the cold. I don't know, just feels are

749
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: a great spot to back this Pittsburgh team, especially the

750
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: way that that Vegas just won that game. Um, I

751
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: don't know, I liked it. Just shocked to hear that

752
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: a really smart group was heavy on the Raiders. Now

753
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: that was at plus three. It's down to plus two

754
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: at the books now. But I don't know, I just

755
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: thought I just thought it was interesting that would be

756
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: so willing to back that team when we know it's

757
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: going to be like whatever it is minus six in Pittsburgh. Um,

758
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: we'll see if these Desert boys are built for it,

759
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: because I know the Pittsburgh guys Historically, usually Pittsburgh defense

760
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: kind of rallies at home in these kind of games.

761
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: So interesting to hear the pros like Vegas in the

762
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: spot the bets on not all of the bets on

763
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders, buttent of the money on the Steelers. Yeah,

764
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. This was the pro spot for Steelers.

765
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: So I just just letting people know this is more split.

766
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: This is why we went have it in there, just

767
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: because I respect the hell of these guys. I just

768
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: know if they're taking a position that they know something

769
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: going on behind closed doors that I don't. Well, we

770
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: got to make a scooter. Let call here. When all

771
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: hope is lost, all this left is relief. Well, let's

772
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: play normally, Simon says, an exact decision are two of

773
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: the leading indicators for which way we'll lean. But you

774
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: know you had the Eagles, and Simon says, and I

775
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: had the Colts and exact decision. I think I won

776
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: screwtroulette last week, so I get to go first. I'm

777
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: taking Washington plus seven. Smart is because I think of

778
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: the games that I liked the most and that i've

779
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: already bet this week, it's the only one where the

780
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: number is still the same, right, Because I would also

781
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: take the Packers, but I got him at five and

782
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: a half. I would take the Bears, but I got

783
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: him at nine and a half. Like those numbers are

784
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: so far gone. Washington plus seven we've liked all week,

785
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: So that's mine. What's yours? Uh? Yeah, I hate it.

786
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: Because like they got the numbers are just moving, Like

787
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: I really wanted Patriots at three, but I just hate pushes.

788
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: Why don't you take the Steelers of minus two? Who?

789
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: Because that's what a smart person went doing. I'm smart.

790
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: Oh fuck it, I mean it's I'm in on it.

791
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: It just sucks at such a ship number. But I

792
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: fucking love this spot. Give me the Panthers plus two

793
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: and a half. Wow, yeah, a little bit off reservation.

794
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: It's not one of my bigger bets this week. I'm

795
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: just I'm trying to think of one game do I

796
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: just acotlutely hate the most because I just love the

797
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: lines and it's just gotta be the This gotta be

798
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: the right side. Like this is such a trap line.

799
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: That is I'm fading myself. Even when you are a professional,

800
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: there is there is no amount of professionalism or confidence

801
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: that uh self loathing can't can't come into play. All right,

802
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: this is what is our money line? Round Robin Parlay?

803
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Right now? Oh man, Mitchell, so right, how did I

804
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: take Steelers after our our guy Franco passed away? Okay,

805
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: that really is the play. Look one of us on

806
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 1: this podcast, Matt Mitchell Simon Hunter. Best Selling author Chad

807
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: Melman wrote a best selling book about the Steelers and

808
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: the cowboys arrivalry in the seventies and how it not

809
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: just represented the changing NFL at the time, but also

810
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: the changing sociology, psychology, and um reflection of American values

811
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: at the time, because the Steelers were the blue collar

812
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: team they believed in hard nosed living, and the Cowboys

813
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: were the fancy team from a city that was growing

814
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: out of the desert, gleaming office towers, home of Texas instruments,

815
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: representing a new world order steeped in computing. The Steelers

816
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: were representing the old world steeped in the Industrial Revolution.

817
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: Melman wrote that book it was the best seller. I

818
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: would say to that without the immacu the Imaica reception,

819
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: football is probably half as popular as it is. Totally

820
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: agree Like that was one of those like people talked

821
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: about it for years and years and years just because

822
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: it was just such a polarizing play. So I always

823
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: put that in the name of you know, calling his

824
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: shot super Bowl. Those are the two big spark plugs

825
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: to me for the NFL where it's like you can

826
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: trace back all the history and everything like that, But

827
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: those are the two plays that people talked about forever, right,

828
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean they're still talking about it. What was it?

829
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: It's the fifty anniversary this weekend. This weekend is the

830
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: fifty if they have a big celebration plan in Pittsburgh.

831
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: Prior to Franco Harris dying, this was all planned, So

832
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: something happened before I was even alive. I can close

833
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: my eyes right now and see it frame for frame.

834
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: That's how often they showed that clip. So it's just

835
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: it's just crazy to think how historically impactful that play was. Look,

836
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: if people want to go by the ones who hit

837
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: the artist the hardest by Chad Milman, best selling book

838
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: for the Holidays, this can be the time to honor

839
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Frank o'harris, who I met with for the book and

840
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: couldn't have been nicer. By the way, a little more

841
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: Millman history there. I was supports illustrated. I wrote about

842
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: his super Donut company. It comes full circle, comes full

843
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: circle when when it's about Chad. Yeah, Chad Millman wrote

844
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: a book. Alright, let's what's around Robin Dog, Your dog,

845
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: Your dog blocks dog? All right, let's start off with

846
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: our boys. The Patriots pulled the upset. Give me the Panthers.

847
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Detroit, but that came just stinks. We don't

848
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: care anymore. We already got Detroit over six and a

849
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: half twins backs. Um, I'm trying to what's a good

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Speaker 1: big dog for us? I mean, Atlanta's tempting, just because

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Speaker 1: the Ravens right now have no quarterbacks practicing this week,

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Speaker 1: in our practicing. Who would you rather throw him for

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Speaker 1: the big dog? Mem or the commanders at lanter A, Commanders, commanders, commanders,

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Speaker 1: we'll throw them in. Gotta go with the Eagles at

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Speaker 1: this big of a number. Um, and of course our Darling,

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Speaker 1: our team we love this week the public road dog

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Speaker 1: give me green back? All right, I'll go slow so

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Speaker 1: Matt can put it in the chat for the Ampers

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Speaker 1: money line round robin, Patriots, Panthers, Commanders, Eagles, Packers. Here's

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Speaker 1: the full lineup, going slow, Foxhall Pats plus three and

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Speaker 1: Exact decision was Cults plus four. That is now up

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Speaker 1: to five with Nick Foles News Big Balls Washington plus seven.

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Speaker 1: of leans right now, we're waiting forgotten My Christmas had

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Speaker 1: this whole episode bron We like the Bears, we like

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Speaker 1: the Paths, we like Washington, we like the Packers, we

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Speaker 1: I got a feeling, um, so please please please check

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