WEBVTT - Tech News: X Marks the Spot for an EU Investigation

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey thereon

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an executive producer with iHeart Podcasts and How the Tech

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<v Speaker 1>are You. It's time for the tech news for December nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, and first up. Elon Musk has had

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty rocky twenty twenty three in general, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's safe to say, and these last few months have

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<v Speaker 1>been particularly challenging. I will add that in my own opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is a rocky road that Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk himself has paved. Anyway. The latest of those challenges

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<v Speaker 1>is that the European Commission announced an investigation into x,

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<v Speaker 1>the social platform formally known as Twitter. This has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the new Digital Services Act in the EU,

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<v Speaker 1>which came into effect this past August. This law sets

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<v Speaker 1>out rules regarding stuff like disinformation, transparent advertising, and illegal

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<v Speaker 1>content on the Internet. So the goal was really to

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<v Speaker 1>bring the member states of the EU, all of which

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<v Speaker 1>have their own local sets of laws on these matters,

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<v Speaker 1>closer into alignment to have a sort of universal set

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<v Speaker 1>of rules for the whole of the EU. For my

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<v Speaker 1>fellow American listeners think of it as the difference between, say,

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<v Speaker 1>a federal law regarding a specific matter, and a state

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<v Speaker 1>law similar to that. Anyway, the commissioners say that it

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<v Speaker 1>appears X has not been compliant with this new law,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the platform has failed to do any significant

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<v Speaker 1>work to prevent or respond to illegal content and disinformation

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<v Speaker 1>posted to it. In particular, the focus is on information

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of the conflict between Israel and Hamas.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, the commission argues that X has

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<v Speaker 1>made use of a quote suspected deceptive design of user

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<v Speaker 1>interface in the quote, and you might think, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck do they mean by that? Well, Lisa O'Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>of The Guardian has an explanation. It's due to how

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<v Speaker 1>X markets and operates the blue check mark system. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'll remind you that back in the Twitter days, a

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<v Speaker 1>blue check mark was a verification mark, right. It was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to verify that an account belonged to the person

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<v Speaker 1>it claimed to represent. So that way, if you saw

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrities account and there was a blue check mark

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<v Speaker 1>next to it, you could be assured that indeed the celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>or more likely the celebrities PR team owns that account,

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<v Speaker 1>but now a blue check mark merely indicates someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has paid to have the blue check mark, which comes

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<v Speaker 1>with a few little actual benefits in addition to having

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<v Speaker 1>the blue check mark appear next to your name. The

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<v Speaker 1>investigation is in the earliest stages and there is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to cover, Like they're wondering if does the blue

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<v Speaker 1>check mark actually mislead people into thinking that somehow an

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<v Speaker 1>account that has a blue check mark is more reliable

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<v Speaker 1>than one that doesn't. So there's a lot more that

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<v Speaker 1>has to go on. It's just a preliminary investigation at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, and I am sure this comes as unwelcome

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<v Speaker 1>news to mister Musk. If the EU determines that X

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<v Speaker 1>has violated the Digital Services Act, the consequences can be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty severe. Punishments can include a fine of up to

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<v Speaker 1>six percent of the company's annual turnover. That's a UK

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<v Speaker 1>term that essentially means gross revenue, So before you take

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<v Speaker 1>all your expenses out, it's how much money you made

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<v Speaker 1>before you had to deduct expenses For X. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty awful, as the company has already had massive

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<v Speaker 1>drops in revenue as it is. They could even potentially

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<v Speaker 1>block X from operating within the EU. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal and we'll have to see how this

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<v Speaker 1>story unfolds. If the recent past is anything to go by,

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<v Speaker 1>it will probably not go well for x unlast elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk's asides to remove himself from that situation entirely, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see happening, but I think that's really the

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<v Speaker 1>only way out for the platform. Next up. Comcast has

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<v Speaker 1>now confirmed has been the target of a data breach,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially affecting nearly thirty six million customers. Tech crunches Carly

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<v Speaker 1>Page has a piece on this. It's titled Comcast says

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<v Speaker 1>hackers stole data of close to thirty six million Infinity customers.

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<v Speaker 1>So the issue appears to be related to a weakness

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<v Speaker 1>in enterprise hardware, namely some networking devices made by a

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<v Speaker 1>company called Citrix. So Comcast uses Citrix devices in its

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<v Speaker 1>own network, and hackers discovered a vulnerability in certain Citrix

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<v Speaker 1>gear last summer. Citrix responded by creating and then making

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<v Speaker 1>available some security patches, but not everyone was right on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the ball there and didn't implement the security

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<v Speaker 1>patches fast enough, including apparently Comcasts, so that gave hackers

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to exploit the vulnerability in Comcasts systems this

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<v Speaker 1>past October and access customer data, and we're just hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about it now, right, Like Comcasts found out about about

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<v Speaker 1>a month later and now we're hearing about it. So

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of data was accessed? Comcast hasn't fully explained

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<v Speaker 1>that yet. Apparently they're still investigating it, but they said

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<v Speaker 1>that at least for some customers, it includes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like their name, their username, a hashed version of their password,

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<v Speaker 1>so in other words, sort of an encrypted version, no

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<v Speaker 1>telling how strong the encryption is. The customer's address, their

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<v Speaker 1>other contact informations like email, phone number that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>their data birth, the last four digits of their Social

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<v Speaker 1>Security number, and any security questions and answers they may

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<v Speaker 1>have provided, you know, the stuff like what was the

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<v Speaker 1>street you grew up on? Kind of questions. Comcast has

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<v Speaker 1>been reaching out the customers and require them to do

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<v Speaker 1>a password reset, while also recommending that they enable two

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<v Speaker 1>factor authentication. This is where I recommend to all of

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<v Speaker 1>y'all that you use multi factor authentication whenever it is available.

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<v Speaker 1>Multi factor authentication does not guarantee that you're absolutely safe

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<v Speaker 1>from attacks, but it does raise the bar enough so

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<v Speaker 1>that I would say most attackers won't bother putting forth

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<v Speaker 1>the effort to get past it. Now I did say most,

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<v Speaker 1>not all. So there is no such thing as a

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly safe system. But you can at least improve your

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<v Speaker 1>security and thus eliminate like ninety eight percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>potential attacks you could face, and I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>a worthwhile effort. If you're in the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>you are a last minute shopper type and the holidays

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<v Speaker 1>are right here upon us, maybe you were planning on

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<v Speaker 1>getting someone an Apple Watch, specifically a Series nine or

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<v Speaker 1>an Ultra to Apple Watch, you better hop to it,

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<v Speaker 1>because once three PM rolls around on the twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>which is this Thursday, those watches will be off store

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<v Speaker 1>shelves in the US. And that's because Apple is facing

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<v Speaker 1>a ban by the International Trade Center or ITC all

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<v Speaker 1>because of a little sensor that's present in those two

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<v Speaker 1>models of the Apple Watch. So a company called Massimo,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes medical devices, is in a patent dispute with

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<v Speaker 1>Apple over a sensor called an SPO two sensor. It's

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<v Speaker 1>designed to measure the blood oxygen models. So Massimo or Masimo,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you say the name of the company. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying Apple infringed upon a patented technology. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>allegation that Apple veheminently denies. But in the face of

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<v Speaker 1>this ITC ban, Apple is preemptively making the move to

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<v Speaker 1>pull all Series nine and Ultra two models off the

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<v Speaker 1>shelves for the time being. Within the US, the matter

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<v Speaker 1>is up for review. President Biden will actually have the

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<v Speaker 1>authority to either veto or allow the ban to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>If he does not veto the ban, Apple can still

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<v Speaker 1>actually appeal that decision in federal courts, but it would

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<v Speaker 1>mean that the tech would be off limits for US customers,

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<v Speaker 1>at least within the United States. I mean you could

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<v Speaker 1>technically travel somewhere else and buy one of these, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Victoria Song of The Verge, Apple is also

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<v Speaker 1>working on a software solution that, if approved by the ITC,

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<v Speaker 1>could serve as a workaround for the issue, so there

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to be any changes to the hardware and

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<v Speaker 1>Apple could continue to sell them in stores in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. So I'll have to see what happens with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Google has agreed to a settlement with the US States,

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<v Speaker 1>as in all fifty United States states in a massive

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<v Speaker 1>anti trust lawsuit. So this lawsuit focused on Google's Play Store,

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<v Speaker 1>the Android App Store essentially, and the United States was

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<v Speaker 1>accusing Google of operating an anti competitive platform by controlling

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff like app distribution and Android device is and

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<v Speaker 1>forcing app developers to pay fees for in app transactions.

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<v Speaker 1>Right like Google would take a cut of all in

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<v Speaker 1>app transactions. That's something that Apple has also faced in

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<v Speaker 1>courts in the United States recently. So if a judge

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<v Speaker 1>approves this settlement, because it has not been approved as

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<v Speaker 1>of the time I'm recording this, Google will have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay seven hundred million dollars and says it will introduce

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<v Speaker 1>greater competition in the play app Store to boot. Of

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<v Speaker 1>that seven hundred million, seventy million would go to a

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<v Speaker 1>fund that the US States would divvy up. The other

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred and thirty million would go to a fund

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<v Speaker 1>that would pay out to Google consumers. In the process

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<v Speaker 1>of the settlement, Google admits no wrongdoing, which is often

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<v Speaker 1>a case with court settlements. Now, this is just the

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<v Speaker 1>latest news in an ongoing year of scrutiny on Google

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<v Speaker 1>from various regulators. So I think we're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more stories about various governmental organizations applying pressure

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<v Speaker 1>to Google next year. But you'll have to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>my Predictions episode that'll be coming up in a little

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<v Speaker 1>more than a week and a half to learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Yep, it's coming back. Speaking of coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back to after we take this quick break

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<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsors. We're back. Sean Lenas of CNN

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<v Speaker 1>has a story about how Microsoft believes operatives from China

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<v Speaker 1>are making use of generative AI in an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>mislead US voters. So the images are meant to sow

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<v Speaker 1>discord among voters and to push the divide that already

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<v Speaker 1>exists between the left and the right to even greater extremes. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about making extremists, and y'all, we do not need

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<v Speaker 1>outside help to do that. We're really good at it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>But admittedly, if you put your thumb on the scale,

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<v Speaker 1>it does speed things up considerably. So this campaign appears

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<v Speaker 1>to largely center on creating kind of iconic images through AI,

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<v Speaker 1>and these images are meant to highlight specific issues in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States to a degree that I would actually

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<v Speaker 1>call absurd. I looked at some of these images and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking this feels like it's parody or satire, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so over the top. However, according to at least

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<v Speaker 1>some folks over in Microsoft, the efforts are proving to

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<v Speaker 1>be effective because they are driving engagement online at least

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<v Speaker 1>on certain platforms. According to lin Gas, other companies have

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<v Speaker 1>reported a rise in Chinese backed misinformation campaigns as well,

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<v Speaker 1>where they've actually taken action to take down these campaigns,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them at least appear to not be

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<v Speaker 1>particularly effective, but they are happening. So it's a reminder

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<v Speaker 1>to not accept everything you encounter online, specifically on social

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<v Speaker 1>networking sites, at face value. Rob Stump of Inside Evs

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<v Speaker 1>has an article titled Volkswagen will bring back physical buttons

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<v Speaker 1>in new cars and Yeah, that pretty much gives away right.

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<v Speaker 1>The title says that the company has decided to walk

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<v Speaker 1>back recent design changes in their electric vehicle line, and

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<v Speaker 1>those design changes saw a lot of touchscreen interfaces and

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<v Speaker 1>haptic capacitive buttons replace physical buttons that were on things

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<v Speaker 1>like control panels and steering wheels. So Volkswagen had really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of made this declaration that they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>go buttonless, but it turns out that the customers, the drivers,

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<v Speaker 1>send a very clear message to the company saying don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Customers reported that the touchscreen interfaces and those

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<v Speaker 1>haptic capacitive surfaces on the steering wheel were distracting and

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating and potentially even dangerous to use. As such, the

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<v Speaker 1>company has started to revise the design on the ID

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<v Speaker 1>two electric vehicle, which reintroduces some but not all, of

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<v Speaker 1>the physical control buttons. The whole Brewjaja prompted Volkswagen CEO

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<v Speaker 1>to say the design change to touch interfaces quote did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of damage end quote to the brand. Now

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, Volkswagen is the same brand that was

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<v Speaker 1>behind the diesel Gate scandal years ago. I mean, arguably

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<v Speaker 1>that company is still trying to recover from that brew ha,

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<v Speaker 1>So it knows a lot about damaging itself. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>this story mostly is focused in Europe, like that's where

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these vehicles have been released and the

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<v Speaker 1>objection to them has followed. I will personally say, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a driver, so it's not like I have any

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<v Speaker 1>real expertise in this area, but I do find an

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<v Speaker 1>off putting to be in a vehicle where everything is

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<v Speaker 1>like a touch based interface because it requires to me

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<v Speaker 1>at least to spend more time looking at the interface

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what I need to do in order

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve the outcome I want. And if I were

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<v Speaker 1>a driver, that would mean my attention would be off

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<v Speaker 1>the road, and that I think is pretty darn dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say reckless, but ironically that seems like

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the wrong word to use. Anyway, Volkswagen

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<v Speaker 1>has said, you know what are bad, We'll go back

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<v Speaker 1>to buttons, so we'll see how those look in future models.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of cars, this week, Canada is likely to announce

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<v Speaker 1>that all new cars will need to be zero emissions

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles by the year twenty thirty five. And by that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean actually, some Canadian governmental agency will issue a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>not that Canada itself will suddenly gain sentience and begin

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<v Speaker 1>to speak Anyway, The point is it seems like Canada

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<v Speaker 1>is following in the footsteps of several other countries around

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<v Speaker 1>the world that are also setting requirements on new vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>to be as carbon free as far as emissions go

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<v Speaker 1>within a little more than a decade. This doesn't cover

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<v Speaker 1>used vehicles. Obviously, you could still have an internal combustion

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<v Speaker 1>engine vehicle in Canada. It's not like they're being outlawed,

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<v Speaker 1>just that any new vehicle from twenty thirty five on

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<v Speaker 1>has to be emissions free. I find it somewhat amazing

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<v Speaker 1>that I could well live to see gas stations become

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<v Speaker 1>largely obsolete, like get such an It's such an integrated

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<v Speaker 1>thing in my life I think of, Like I have

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<v Speaker 1>childhood memories of going to gas stations and stuff. It

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<v Speaker 1>is wild to me to think that within ten fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years those could pretty much become, you know, completely converted

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<v Speaker 1>over into like charging stations and stuff. It just is odd.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe it's just because I'm old. And

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<v Speaker 1>in Space News, NASA demonstrated the enormous power of the

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Space Optical Communications project or DSOC by beaming an

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<v Speaker 1>ultra high definition video from space to Earth using laser beams.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know what you're thinking, a video of what?

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<v Speaker 1>What did NASA's video contain? Well, maybe you didn't ask

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<v Speaker 1>that question, you probably can guess. I mean it's a

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<v Speaker 1>digital video. Yes, it was of a cat, because some

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<v Speaker 1>memes just won't go away. Now, this particular cat is Tater's,

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<v Speaker 1>an orange tabby, and the video shows Taters joyfully chasing

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<v Speaker 1>a little laserbeam dot around an environment, and the transmitter

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<v Speaker 1>is a board of spacecraft called Psyche. That spacecraft is

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<v Speaker 1>nearly nineteen million miles away from us, but you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>relieved to hear that little Taters has his pause firmly

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. Taters did not go on a ride

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<v Speaker 1>helped to space. What they did was they shot the video,

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<v Speaker 1>or actually they took a video and downloaded it and

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<v Speaker 1>then they saved it to Psyche. Spacecraft's hard drive essentially

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<v Speaker 1>sent the spacecraft out into space, and then it beamed

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<v Speaker 1>the video back to us at a speed that was incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>faster than broadband speeds here on the ground. It took

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<v Speaker 1>a less than two minutes for the message to travel

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<v Speaker 1>those nineteen million miles. It actually they said it took

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<v Speaker 1>less time for the spacecraft to beam the video down

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<v Speaker 1>to Earth than it took for them to transmit the

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<v Speaker 1>video from the receiver station to the headquarters, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. The experiment really helps pave the way for

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<v Speaker 1>long distance transmissions in space. That's something that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a key component in missions to places like Mars

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<v Speaker 1>or beyond. If we want to set up really good

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<v Speaker 1>colonies on places like Mars or the Moon. Using this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of laser communication technology will be key to bringing

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<v Speaker 1>down the delay times as much as possible and being

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<v Speaker 1>able to communicate seamlessly or as close to it as

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<v Speaker 1>we can. Okay, I've got just one article recommendation for

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<v Speaker 1>you all today. TJ. Thompson and Daniel Angus wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>piece for The Conversation, although so I actually found it

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<v Speaker 1>on tech Explore and the piece is titled data Poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>How artists are sabotaging AI to take revenge on image generators.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've talked about data poisoning before on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a good article to get a grounding in

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. As you probably know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>artists are upset that AI companies have been using artists'

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<v Speaker 1>works to train up generative AI, but they haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 1>the artist's consent to do that. So it's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like if you found out someone was using your work

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<v Speaker 1>to train your replacement without ever telling you, Like they

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<v Speaker 1>might be saying, hey, you're putting in great work, and

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<v Speaker 1>they really mean it, because they mean your great work

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<v Speaker 1>is training up the person who's going to take over

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<v Speaker 1>your job. Anyway, as this piece explains some artists are

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting with ways to trip up AI so that it

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<v Speaker 1>produces really poor output, so check it out. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>it for this episode of tech Stuff. I'll have one

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<v Speaker 1>two other tech news episodes before we close out the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also got a bunch of special episodes kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looking back over some of the big tech stories of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, so check those out. And they'll even

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<v Speaker 1>be special ones publishing on weekends so you can check

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<v Speaker 1>those out too. And yeah, thanks to all of you,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to the amazing production staff who have stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>to help me out during the holiday season. I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, including super producer Tari. I hope you are

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying your holiday and to all of you out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you happiness and health and I'll talk to

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