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Speaker 1: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck

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Speaker 1: is on his way to visit his family for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I have got you guys today and tomorrow as we

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Speaker 1: roll into the holiday. Appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us. I know many of you also beginning your

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Speaker 1: holiday trips all over the country and probably around the world,

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Speaker 1: and we appreciate you spending time with us. On this Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: a lot to dive into. Elon Musk has filed suit

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Speaker 1: against Media Matters.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to run.

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Speaker 1: Through this suit and explain to you why I think

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Speaker 1: it could be one of the most significant and consequential

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Speaker 1: lawsuits as it pertains to online information and disinformation and

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Speaker 1: how we even classify both. I have read the lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be utterly fascinating to see how

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Speaker 1: this plays out in the great state of Texas. I

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Speaker 1: will discuss the hostage situation in Gaza. It's now been

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Speaker 1: forty five days since October seventh for many of these

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Speaker 1: hostages who have been held in Gaza. There are reports

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Speaker 1: that some of them may be released today. I will

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Speaker 1: discuss and continue to update you on that. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: posted a birthday cake I don't know how many candles

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Speaker 1: are on it, but we're lucky the White House didn't

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Speaker 2: War of eighteen twelve.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss Joe Biden's eighty first birthday and whether

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Speaker 1: or not, as Vivek Ramaswami just tweeted, Joe Biden has

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Speaker 1: basically reached his extent of usefulness and they will soon

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Speaker 1: be shunting him off the stage and trying to replace

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Speaker 1: him again.

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Speaker 2: I'll read that from Vivek.

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Speaker 1: We will break that down and after yesterday's big debate

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Speaker 1: discussion analysis. I had to go pick up my fifteen

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Speaker 1: tripling down and quadrupling down. No adult should get picked

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Speaker 1: expected to be I think the biggest week for travel

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Speaker 1: ever for Thanksgiving. I think finally all the covid idiots

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Speaker 1: most people traveling for Thanksgiving since twenty nineteen, a lot

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Speaker 1: over this country. We will discuss that. I'll also open

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Speaker 1: up phone lines. You can take issue with anything I say.

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Speaker 1: We can have some fun eight hundred and two A

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Speaker 1: with this Elon Musk lawsuit against Media Matters. If you're

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Speaker 1: not familiar with what happened, Media Matters wrote a big

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Speaker 1: article alleging that many of the top brands that advertise

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, now renamed X, we're having their advertisements appear

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Speaker 1: in close connection to content that many would consider to

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Speaker 1: be unacceptable, that is, anti Semitic content, things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: And before we get into analyzing that lawsuit, because I

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Speaker 1: do believe that this lawsuit, which has been filed in

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Speaker 1: the state of Texas, has the potential to bankrupt this site,

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Speaker 1: Media Matters. I think a lot of you don't know

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Speaker 1: what Media Matters does. Basically, the way that I would

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Speaker 1: explain this is Media Matters exist to try to cancel

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Speaker 1: people who have opinions that they do not like and

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Speaker 1: who trying to.

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Speaker 2: Make a living in media.

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Speaker 1: I first became aware of them when they wrote about

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Speaker 1: that Media Matters wrote about me in earnest was in

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and this is their headline that is still

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Speaker 1: theorist and his credo is all women are sluts. That

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Speaker 1: was the very first article that Media Matters ever wrote

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Speaker 1: about me. That was in September of twenty seventeen. And

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Speaker 1: they then put me in a graphic where it's a picture.

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Speaker 2: Of me and by the way, not a flattering picture.

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Speaker 1: Not that people look at me and think, you know what,

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Speaker 1: they just took my head and put it on somebody

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Speaker 1: else's head. Now, This has been a gripe of mind

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Speaker 1: don't worry about it at all. This is one hundred

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Speaker 1: Angeles area, if you ever drive by the Fox Lot,

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Speaker 1: in West LA, they have a lot of different billboards

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Speaker 1: I don't know, millions of people probably drive by that

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Speaker 1: It's a very prominent area in LA. Lots of traffic.

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Speaker 1: They put up billboards to advertise all the new shows.

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Speaker 1: They put up a billboard to advertise the new show

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Speaker 1: that I was on. This is in twenty thirteen. Never

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is awesome. It was my picture

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Speaker 1: so cool. You're on a billboard. Like I was excited.

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Speaker 1: the first time I've ever been on a billboard. And

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Speaker 1: I looked like humbly a dead person who had makeup

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Speaker 2: So the day goes on.

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Speaker 1: This thing's up for like a month, keep driving into

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Speaker 2: Look and I'm like, man, you know that doesn't even

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the billboard for longer and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: actually Petros Papadekas, who does radio in LA. We don't

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Speaker 1: look anything alike. They didn't even put me, no offense

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Speaker 1: matters too. By the way, if you ever have an

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Speaker 1: to them when they say, oh, it doesn't matter. Nobody

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Speaker 1: didn't ask me. It says, I'm terrible. They photo shot

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Speaker 1: me in with somebody else. Some of these other headlines

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Speaker 1: to spread more lies about the disease and college athletics.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, I was a COVID denying I don't

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Speaker 1: So these are like the first several articles they wrote.

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Speaker 2: The initial attacks.

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Speaker 1: First Amendment absolutist. You're listening to the guy who went

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Speaker 1: So people disagree with me, I'm one hundred percent open

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Speaker 1: that I am an awful human being. But there's a

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Speaker 1: able to run OutKick. But there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: do is try to get advertisers not to support your program.

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Speaker 1: I love all the advertisers that support this program, but

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Speaker 1: just think about it. It's not a single car that

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Speaker 1: advertises on this program. I would venture to say most

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Speaker 1: of you drive automobiles. It's not a single beer that

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Speaker 2: Beer a liquor.

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Speaker 1: I would venture to say that quite a few of you,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Buck is

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Speaker 1: owns in American treasuries. I think it's three or four

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars and say, yeah, that's your cost for which

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Speaker 1: way too little. But that's your responsibility for unleashing COVID

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Speaker 1: on the world with your incompetence. I think I'm like

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Speaker 1: the only person saying that. I would I would explore

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Speaker 1: doing it if I were in political office. But what

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Speaker 1: they're going to do with Trump is they're going to

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Speaker 1: use the media matters of the world, and their control

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Speaker 1: of Instagram and their control of YouTube, and their control

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Speaker 1: of Facebook, all left leaning organizations that will rig elections

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Speaker 1: in favor of Democrats and against Trump, and they're scared

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Speaker 1: that all Elon Musk is pledging is hey, I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to be fair and let the marketplace of ideas work.

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Speaker 1: Remember Elon Musk is not saying, hey, I am some

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Speaker 1: far right wing idiologue. He's got a radical idea. It's

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Speaker 1: just that you and me and everybody should be treated

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Speaker 1: equal and all of our ideas should compete evenly in

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Speaker 1: the larger marketplace of ideas without restrictions or favor based

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Speaker 1: on what your political opinions are. And that's why Joe Scarborough,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I'm going to get on a plane

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Speaker 1: go down to the Panhandle. I think my congressman, if

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Speaker 1: I lived down in the Panhandle of Florida, would be

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Speaker 1: Matt Gates. Need to get together with him. Haven't met

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Speaker 1: him in person, but in the past, Joe Scarborough represented

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Speaker 1: this area of the country. I think it's one of

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Speaker 1: the best parts of the country. I love the Panhandle

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Speaker 1: of Florida. Get down to the South Alabama area, really

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Speaker 1: just South Alabama. It happens to be Panhandle of Florida.

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Speaker 1: But Joe Scarborough, who used to represent that era, that area,

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Speaker 1: he said in a second term, Trump is going to

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Speaker 1: imprison and execute whoever he wants.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: He's not a normal candidate. He is running to end

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Speaker 3: American democracies.

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Speaker 4: We know it.

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Speaker 2: He's an authoritarian.

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Speaker 3: To a court in Colorado two days ago ruled that

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Speaker 3: he led an insurrection against the United States government. He's

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Speaker 3: charged with leading schemes to help overthrow the United States government.

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Speaker 2: He will do, he will get away with. He will

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Speaker 2: in prison, he.

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Speaker 3: Will execute whoever he's allowed to imprison, execute, drive from

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Speaker 3: the country.

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Speaker 4: Just look at his past. It's not really hard to read.

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Speaker 1: Who did Trump execute? I mean, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: only Joe Scarborough. Can we put out an invite to

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Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough, that idiot to come on this show Alley

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Speaker 1: He won't come on, but we'll invite.

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Speaker 2: Who did Trump execute? I mean, I mean this honestly.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna go on MSNB say and you're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: if Donald Trump is elected, he will kill he will

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Speaker 1: execute whomever he can. He's already been president for four years.

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Speaker 1: Did I miss the firing squads? Did I miss the

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Speaker 1: gas chambers? Did Trump put any of his political enemies

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Speaker 1: in prison?

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Speaker 2: Does Joe Scarborough's brain work?

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is trying to put his chief political rival

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Speaker 1: in prison. Right now, you're saying that Trump will do

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Speaker 1: it if he's elected. Shouldn't you focus on what's actually

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Speaker 1: going on right now? I don't remember Trump executing anybody.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I missed it. Maybe there was some massive number,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe out in Lafayette Park right in front

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Speaker 1: of the White House.

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Speaker 2: They were lying up people just mowing him down all

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Speaker 2: the time. I missed it. If it happened, maybe you

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Speaker 2: got maybe you guys saw it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What political rival did Donald Trump try to put in prison.

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Speaker 1: As soon as he got into office, he actually said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we're gonna let Hillary off. If anything,

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Speaker 1: he was too kind to his political rivals, too lenient,

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Speaker 1: too generous, too forgiving. If you're gonna go on MSNBC

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Speaker 1: and you're going to say Trump will execute people and

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Speaker 1: imprison people, shouldn't you have to point to him having

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Speaker 1: done it in the four years that he was president before.

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Speaker 1: And my point on this is doesn't work. Democrats are

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Speaker 1: in an incredible boy who cries Wolfe's scenario on Trump.

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Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is Vivak Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been in office so you can be outrageous,

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Speaker 1: you can be hyperbolic, you can say all sorts of

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Speaker 1: crazy things about them because they haven't actually been in office,

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Speaker 1: and you can make allegations that likely would not be true.

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Speaker 1: But when you say that about Trump, many people out there,

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Speaker 1: even people who wouldn't really be Trump supporters, look around.

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Speaker 1: They're like, I, you know, man, I don't really remember

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Speaker 1: Trump executing anybody. I don't remember him imprisoning as political adversaries.

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Speaker 1: No one hardly went to prison for all the BLM riots.

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Speaker 1: Compare that with January sixth, and with Trump himself. Democrats

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Speaker 1: do what they claim Republicans will. And if Joe Scarborough

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Speaker 1: had a functional brain, or he ever had anybody with

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Speaker 1: a functional brain on his show on MSNBC, point back

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, you just said he's going to execute

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Speaker 1: his political opponents. Why do you think he would just

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Speaker 1: start doing that?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: It's a lie.

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Speaker 1: And over time, I trust the American public's ability to

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Speaker 1: recognize when they're being lied to. And I don't believe

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Speaker 1: any administration in our lives has lied as much as

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's administration has. And that's why I think so

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Speaker 1: many people have come to recognize it, and I think

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Speaker 1: it ties in in many different ways. But that's why

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Speaker 1: only fourteen percent of people are getting the COVID shot.

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Speaker 1: Takes a long time for some people to recognize that

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Speaker 1: they're being lied to, but once they recognize it, it

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Speaker 1: spreads like wild. Remember they were telling you a few

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Speaker 1: years ago you couldn't have Thanksgiving with more than like

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Speaker 1: two or three people. I mean, that's what the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration was trying to tell you. Remember, the Winter of

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Speaker 1: Death didn't happen. And as a result, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people when they hear these attacks on Trump from MSNBC

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Speaker 1: and CNN, they don't work. It's the boy who Cried

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Speaker 1: Wolf scenario. And actually I think it bounces back and

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Speaker 1: strengthens Trump because more and more people are realizing that

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Claytravis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. We are joined now, I

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Speaker 1: believe by Brian Kilmead of Fox News. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. Brian, where are you going

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Speaker 1: to be for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be at my brother's house.

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Speaker 6: You're invited, Clay, but I imagine you want to be

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Speaker 6: with your family.

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Speaker 4: Is that for you?

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Speaker 6: Trying to get you trying to get invited and putting

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Speaker 6: me on the spot like that.

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Speaker 1: I met your wife. She seemed lovely. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: to myself, you know what I want to do this year.

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Speaker 1: I want to spend time with the kill Mead family

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Speaker 1: as opposed to my own family. So you've you've outed

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Speaker 1: me and busted me here on my my clever employee

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Speaker 1: to get an invite. So are you having to travel?

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Speaker 1: Are you having to travel? You just get to stay

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Speaker 1: at home.

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Speaker 6: Twenty five minutes via a vehicle. I'm not going to

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Speaker 6: be one of the people racing to the airport. How

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Speaker 6: many times you see that in the news on our channel. Wow,

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Speaker 6: the airport's going to be crowded. But don't worry, Pete

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Speaker 6: Pooter Judge is in charge. We've got everything under control.

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Speaker 6: It's gone so well so far. That guy thought he

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Speaker 6: was going to Coasting with the easiest job ever transportation.

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Speaker 4: What do I have to do? Man? Okay, we've seen

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Speaker 4: someone screw up more.

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Speaker 1: No, and also screw up something that I didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: Most people can't even name transportation secretaries from past administrations.

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Speaker 1: It's like you know, in general, if you can name

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Speaker 1: a referee, it's a bad sign or an umpire. It

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Speaker 1: means that they're drawing a lot of attention to themselves,

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Speaker 1: oftentimes with controversial calls. It's the same thing with I

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Speaker 1: would say most cabinet secretaries. People know the Secretary of State,

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Speaker 1: they know the president and vice president. But when you're

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Speaker 1: getting down to like who's the secretary of education, who's

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Speaker 1: in charge of the Energy department, if you're getting regularly

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Speaker 1: noticed there, you're probably doing a bad job. By the way,

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Speaker 1: speaking of regularly noticed, I've now gone on Twitter. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: Buck and I shared this opinion and if you want

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Speaker 1: to see a cluster, I went on Twitter and I

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Speaker 1: got a hot take. Yesterday I went and picked up

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Speaker 1: my fifteen year old at the airport. You mentioned how

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Speaker 1: crowded they're going to be. My thesis is this, I'm

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Speaker 1: excluding children and the elderly. No adults should get picked

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Speaker 1: up at the airport. Find your own way when you

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Speaker 1: arrived at the airport wherever you need to go if

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Speaker 1: you are an adult, Because right now, I bet there's

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Speaker 1: people listening to me like losing their minds in traffic.

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Speaker 1: It was impossible last night to even get near the

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Speaker 1: Nashville Airport. Now I'm picking up a fifteen year old.

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Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to tell him to just take

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Speaker 1: an uber on his own, honestly, because I think he's

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Speaker 1: old enough to do it. Our airport pickups wildly overrated

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Speaker 1: in an era of uber and lyft.

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Speaker 6: Yes, although people listening to losing paycheck to paycheck will

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Speaker 6: probably take We'll take you on on that. But like

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Speaker 6: for example, in New York, it took my son maybe

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Speaker 6: two months to realize.

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Speaker 4: He goes, you don't have to pick me up.

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Speaker 6: There's a train that brings me right to Jamaica, and

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Speaker 6: then from Jamaica, I can go right to the train stations.

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Speaker 4: Picked me up from the train station.

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Speaker 6: He didn't want to be picked up, and I never

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Speaker 6: I always saw that train and I was thought, I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna want to be dropped off. I never I'm picked up.

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Speaker 6: We're lucky enough playing on our jobs. You know, through

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Speaker 6: most of the time it's work. You can always grab

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Speaker 6: a car. You know, you have a car, erms, you've

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Speaker 6: got people that you depend on.

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Speaker 4: But you know you're right.

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Speaker 6: If we could get people just to take mass transportation

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Speaker 6: rather than that uncle that owes your favor, I think

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Speaker 6: that we'd be able to get in it out a

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Speaker 6: lot quicker.

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Speaker 1: So and by the way, people out there, even if

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Speaker 1: you're living paycheck to paycheck, picking somebody up at an airport,

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Speaker 1: I think people do a bad job of valuing time,

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Speaker 1: spending hours to drive to an airport. Not to mention

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Speaker 1: the mileage that you put on the car as well

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Speaker 1: as your gas. It has a cost. You're just not

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Speaker 1: recognizing it in your head, right because it's not free.

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Speaker 1: Like the time that you're spending is not inconsequential the

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Speaker 1: amount that you're spending on gas, mileage, everything else. Not

656
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Speaker 1: to mention the risk of some sort of thing going wrong,

657
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Speaker 1: you get a flat tire, you get into an accident,

658
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Speaker 1: as opposed to putting somebody on a newber, I think

659
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Speaker 1: that we just need to normalize adults. Get yourselves to

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Speaker 1: and from the airport. You got a book. It's called

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Speaker 1: Teddy and Booker t How two American icons blazed a

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Speaker 1: path for racial equality. Tell me about this. Tell me

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Speaker 1: about this book. Why is it? Why does it?

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Speaker 2: Why does this story matter today.

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Speaker 6: Well, number one, I want to I wanted to pair

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Speaker 6: up I kind of Clay. You have a sports background.

667
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Speaker 6: The best thing about the Rocky movies is one went

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Speaker 6: to the other and if I could end one and

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Speaker 6: the first scene of the next Rocky is the last

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Speaker 6: scene of the previous Rocky. It's genius. And I've been

671
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Speaker 6: compared to Stallan Offman. Okay, never, but now you can so.

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Speaker 6: Frederick probably the president freedom fighter out Now we have

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Speaker 6: Frederick Douglas, who was a was an idol of Booker

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Speaker 6: t Washington. They met, he spoke at Tuskegee, a school

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Speaker 6: that Booker founded, and there was six year old Teddy

676
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Speaker 6: Roosevelt looking out the window on Broadway.

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Speaker 4: You've been on Broadway looking at the.

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Speaker 6: Body of Abraham Lincoln in eighteen sixty five after he

679
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Speaker 6: was assassinated by John Molgs Booth. His grandfather made Churi

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Speaker 6: so and from that moment he remembers always idolizing Lincoln.

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Speaker 6: So I thought, to these two guys that could talk

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Speaker 6: about race and American move us forward. When I first

683
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Speaker 6: started doing these books, I thought, wouldn't it be great

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Speaker 6: if I had newspeople interested in history? And now what

685
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Speaker 6: are we talking about on our shows, we're talking about

686
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Speaker 6: the war on history. They're taking down Jackson, they're taking

687
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Speaker 6: down Columbus, they're moving Jefferson out of City Hall. And

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Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, they're boxing up Teddy Roosevelt's

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Speaker 6: statue and moving it away because they don't feel he's

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Speaker 6: politically correcting us in twenty twenty two, and now I thought,

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Speaker 6: let me talk to the Roosevelt people, because Booker T.

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Speaker 6: Washington team with Teddy Roosevelt to move us forward on

693
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Speaker 6: race relations, and I just think we need a perspective

694
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Speaker 6: when you have Megan Rapino who doesn't think we're far

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Speaker 6: enough along as a country to stand up during the

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Speaker 6: national anthem, and another quarterback taking a knee because he

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Speaker 6: wasn't starting for the forty nine ers. I thought, if

698
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Speaker 6: you read what Booker T overcame to move us forward

699
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Speaker 6: and what Teddy did to defy his times, I thought

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Speaker 6: that you might have a perspective on why were the

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Speaker 6: most successful multicultural country in the history of the world

702
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Speaker 6: Because two people came from the outer reaches, different worlds

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Speaker 6: to combine and make our country better.

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Speaker 4: And that's the story I tried to tell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're hitting on something that I think is

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Speaker 1: really important, Brian, and that is, for much of the

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Speaker 1: I would say seventies, eighties, nineties, and early two thousands,

708
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Speaker 1: many people out there were buying into the idea, which

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Speaker 1: I think is very true, that white, Black, Asian, and

710
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Speaker 1: Hispanic we all have far more in common across whatever

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Speaker 1: racial differences or identities might theoretically divide us than we

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Speaker 1: do different. And what's really happened, and I would say

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Speaker 1: the last decade or so is people have tried to argue, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: our identities are immutable characteristics and there is no way

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Speaker 1: to bridge the differences between us, and therefore this must

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Speaker 1: be the primary method upon which we consider all of

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Speaker 1: our human interaction right, and that has actually been I

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Speaker 1: think supreme destructive to the idea of America itself.

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Speaker 4: And when you put Booker T.

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Speaker 6: Washington in the South in the turn of the century,

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Speaker 6: twentieth century, where there was segregation, there was Jim Crow,

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Speaker 6: there were the poll taxes, the KKK emerges, that was

723
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Speaker 6: tough times. And instead of moving to the North when

724
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Speaker 6: he started getting a degree of fame and wealth, he's like, no,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to Tuskegee. We're going to start with a

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Speaker 6: leaky shed, and I'm going to grow this. Then he

727
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Speaker 6: had to get students. All he had was one room,

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Speaker 6: dilapidated with the holes in the roof. One of his

729
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Speaker 6: students would have to hold the umbrella when it rained.

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Speaker 6: He started with thirty students because he knocked on doors

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Speaker 6: and said, do you want to go to college, And

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Speaker 6: most of the students were older than him. He was

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Speaker 6: twenty four at the time. And he got people in

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Speaker 6: and he started it and within a short time he

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Speaker 6: had fifteen hundred graduates. And they do something that I

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Speaker 6: don't have, and that's they learned to trade, and they

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Speaker 6: got an education, and they wanted to be indispensable to

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Speaker 6: their community.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of white people did not want to

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Speaker 4: hire black people. And he said, well, if you're skilled, you're.

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Speaker 6: A blacksmith, you're a construction you're an architect, whatever you're

742
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Speaker 6: you're an agriculturist, a farmer, you'll have.

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Speaker 4: To be hired.

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Speaker 6: And then you you grow your intellect, you'll defy what

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Speaker 6: everyone thought.

746
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Speaker 4: With the previous differences between races.

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Speaker 6: And he did it in the South, and his education

748
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Speaker 6: program resonated throughout Europe, throughout Africa, and all he would

749
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Speaker 6: do is when he got money from Andrew Carnegie and

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Speaker 6: JP Morgan, he would put it into the school. And

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Speaker 6: Teddy Roosevelt, in Booker T. Washington's words, did more for

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Speaker 6: Black America than any president aside from Abraham Lincoln. So

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Speaker 6: I thought, even though we had some blind spots in

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Speaker 6: some of his statements, that will clear your sinuses today.

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Speaker 6: Roosevelt because he was raised by a mom that's from

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Speaker 6: the South. In the end, he just brought this country together.

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Speaker 6: A lot of it was under the radar, and I

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Speaker 6: tried to go over it in the book. And the

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Speaker 6: fact that people could look each other and I respect

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Speaker 6: each other.

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Speaker 4: Booker T. Washington was the advisor.

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Speaker 6: For Teddy Roosevelt to pick out judges and postmasters.

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Speaker 4: Just tell me the best person. Don't tell me the.

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Speaker 6: Color of their skin or even their gender. And I

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Speaker 6: just I was in I got chills in reading the

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Speaker 6: books by Booker T. Washington, and they led me to

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Speaker 6: Teddy Roosevelt.

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Speaker 1: Brian, one of the great unfortunate stories that isn't told

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Speaker 1: is if you look at speaking of Booker T. Washington,

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Speaker 1: the idea of self reliance and the idea of individual responsibility,

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Speaker 1: the success of black America in terms of economics actually

772
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Speaker 1: began to decline relative to the history before that in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties with the Great Society, right, and this

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Speaker 1: is one of the things that Thomas Sauls of the

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Speaker 1: Year of the World have spent a great deal.

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Speaker 2: Of time on.

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Speaker 1: As soon as government got involved in trying to reconcile

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Speaker 1: equality in this country in terms of economics, that's when

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Speaker 1: things started to fall apart. In terms of Black America,

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Speaker 1: both families with and dad both present. Because you go

781
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Speaker 1: look at the data prior to the nineteen sixties that

782
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Speaker 1: wasn't common at all, became very, very prevalent the Great Society.

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Speaker 1: Lyndon Johnson in the end of the nineteen sixties, I

784
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Speaker 1: think the intention was good.

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Speaker 2: The result that's not.

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Speaker 4: Got no question values.

787
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Speaker 6: They came with a social safety net, they came out

788
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Speaker 6: and the civil rights was necessary.

789
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Speaker 4: I understand what was going on.

790
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Speaker 6: But LBJ, even though some of the things that he

791
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Speaker 6: was saying in his life in Texas shows that he

792
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Speaker 6: was anything but Martin Luther King, he went out and said, hey,

793
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Speaker 6: let me do civil rights. Let me get this done.

794
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Speaker 6: The result was sadly in many ways, the stats don't

795
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Speaker 6: lie the destruction of the black family, and they've been

796
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Speaker 6: having got it back since. But if you took some

797
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Speaker 6: of the advances and some of the affirmative action things

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Speaker 6: that it looks as though we don't need. Clearly now,

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Speaker 6: you had to force people to change their perception of

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Speaker 6: each other. That was necessary. It took a lot of drama,

801
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 6: took so much courage. But during that time, even before

802
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 6: the eighteen sixties, you had a guy in nineteen ten

803
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Speaker 6: sit there and say, Okay, this guy.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't like me.

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Speaker 6: If he doesn't call my skin, this woman doesn't like it,

806
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Speaker 6: goes call my skin. This guy doesn't care. I'll deal

807
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Speaker 6: with him, but I don't hate them. They are people

808
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Speaker 6: of their times. I will change their perception when they

809
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Speaker 6: see me in action. And instead of demonstrating, protesting, canceling them,

810
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 6: they said, I will show you by my actions, and

811
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Speaker 6: I dare you to challenge my integrity.

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Speaker 4: And Booker T.

813
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Speaker 6: Washington, born as slave until he was nine, no shoes,

814
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Speaker 6: no pants, slept on a dirt floor, one meal a day,

815
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Speaker 6: ends up being one of the most respected men I

816
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Speaker 6: believe in American history. Don't tell me you can't overcome

817
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 6: black white in between handicap, no parents, bad parents. When

818
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 6: you see these two stories Teddy Roosevelt, that bad asked

819
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Speaker 6: me he was sick a whole childhood wasn't supposed to survive.

820
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Speaker 6: And you see them come together from different walks of life.

821
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Speaker 6: I think you get inspired for the country. We have

822
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Speaker 6: the right people at the right time. And number two,

823
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Speaker 6: he was the precursor to Napoleon Hill, Norman, Vincent Peel

824
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825
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Speaker 6: scale it. I don't blame you, and I'll be a

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Speaker 6: stronger person on the other side.

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Speaker 4: And I just thought the whole story needs to be told.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: Sounds awesome, Teddy and Booker t he is Brian kill me.

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Speaker 1: Go check it out. If you are buying books for

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Speaker 1: the holiday season and beyond. Brian have a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: Go get him, I'll see you.

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