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Speaker 1: Claude Harmon solo episode of the pod this week. Put

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Speaker 1: answer your questions and listen. Lots of really good questions

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Speaker 1: end up in your bag. So questions this week, and

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Speaker 1: some really good questions Bryson d. Chambeau and Scottie Scheffler.

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Speaker 1: I think right now we're on everyone's mind. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people ask me what I think about this historic

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Speaker 1: run that Scotty's on and Bryson the US Open, Scotti Scheffler.

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Speaker 1: The guy is playing. Listen, the guy's playing. Unbelievable golf man.

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Speaker 1: There's just no way around it. And lots of comparisons

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Speaker 1: Singhs got back got on back in the early two thousands.

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Speaker 1: But it just it just plays great golf. Seems like

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Speaker 1: he shoots in the sixties pretty much every time he

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Speaker 1: but he's a two time Masters champion. He's number one

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge I think the world rankings at

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Speaker 1: this point are massively compromised. But yeah, I mean there

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Speaker 1: is he's the best player in the game right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you make arguments that you know, there are place players

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Speaker 1: that are close to him. Bryson Is is playing great golf,

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Speaker 1: you know, a second at the PGA and then wins

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Speaker 1: players in the world. But if we're just looking on results,

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Speaker 1: and you're looking at results on the PGA Tour, and

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Speaker 1: that's the golf that Scotty has playing right now is

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Speaker 1: second to none. Just had a baby. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: the Tom Hanks to me of our sport. He's someone

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Speaker 1: that I don't know anybody that doesn't like Scotty Scheffler.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that doesn't like his game, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't like his personality, and I think the way he

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Speaker 1: kind of approaches golf. I've talked about it. He's longtime

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Speaker 1: well from he also manages Brooks Koepka, and Scotty's the

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Speaker 1: whole package, University of Texas superstar, and he's just a great,

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Speaker 1: great golfer. I think the comparisons to Tiger are I

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Speaker 1: it for as long as Tiger did. I think Scotty

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Speaker 1: his superpower. I think his game. Yeah, he hits great

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Speaker 1: has struggled with the putter, but he can't win six

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Speaker 1: So the work that he's done with Phil Kenyan, I

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Speaker 1: He tends to not be on social media. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about Bryson de Chambeau and you know

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Speaker 1: kind of what he's been doing. Listen, I talked about it.

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Speaker 1: Bryson's figured it out. Bryson is real. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that maybe might think

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Speaker 1: that's kind of contrived and kind of I've heard fake.

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Speaker 1: I see Bryson on a regular basis on Live right,

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Speaker 1: I talked to Bryson. I've watched the maturation of Bryson.

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Speaker 1: But I've said this before. His superpower is he doesn't

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Speaker 1: is every golfer has a superpower, right. Rory McElroy's superpower

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Speaker 1: Patrick Reid, Sevy Biasteros, their superpowers were short game, right,

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Speaker 1: like that Tiger everything was a superpower, right. Bryson's is

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Speaker 1: he does things his own way. But I've talked to

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Speaker 1: He's not dumb, and he's just figured it out. And

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Speaker 1: but it's smart and I think what Bryson is doing

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Speaker 1: management team, by his handlers, all that bullshit. Listen, Bryson

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Speaker 1: right now Bryson moves the needle. Nobody's ever going to

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Speaker 1: back and forth between kind of the blade and the mallet,

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Speaker 1: lot of golf balls off the toe, if you're hitting

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Speaker 1: a lot of golf balls and you've got the idiot

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Speaker 1: mark on your skying the golf ball, and you've got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of ball marks on the top of your driver,

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Speaker 1: and then you look at the bottom of your driver

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Speaker 1: and you see these kind of extreme te marks, that's

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Speaker 1: the path, and then that's the face not being able

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Speaker 1: to catch up, can't square it. So the block to

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Speaker 1: the right, there's always whenever someone says their misses to

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Speaker 1: the right, I'm going to ask them two questions. Does

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Speaker 1: the ball start right and go right or does the

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00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: ball start left and go right? Two different things. So

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Speaker 1: if it's starting right and going right, that can be

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Speaker 1: the path being too into out in the face being

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Speaker 1: open and right of the path. If it's starting left

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Speaker 1: and then going to the right, that's the path and

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Speaker 1: then the face combo. So, but look at your golf

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Speaker 1: club and then obviously a lot of block shots to

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00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: the right, you get steep with the driver. If that

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Speaker 1: path gets to the left. You're hitting down on the

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Speaker 1: driver with the face open. That is a recipe for

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Speaker 1: the ball going to the right. And if you understand that,

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Speaker 1: then when you hit one, you can say okay, and

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00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: with the driver, I think with all golf clubs, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to say this with all golf clubs.

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Speaker 1: When you're hitting golf balls on the driving range, put

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Speaker 1: an alignment stick down on your feet, pick a target out,

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Speaker 1: go back, look at where your target is, Look at

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Speaker 1: where you want to set up. Go back, say okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me check this. Okay, that's where I want to

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Speaker 1: set up. That's where I want to get my feet set.

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Speaker 1: So when you hit a bad shot on the driving range,

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Speaker 1: you can eliminate aim as the as the problem, as

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Speaker 1: the reason. And if you're aimed in the right place

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Speaker 1: and you're setting the club face up square right now,

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Speaker 1: if you're aiming miles to the left and you're opening

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Speaker 1: and the face is open at a dress and you've

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Speaker 1: got a super extreame grip and that face is pointed

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Speaker 1: the right. But if you're aiming square to if you're

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Speaker 1: aiming squarely and the face at a dress with the

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Speaker 1: driver is square, and you hit one offline. You can

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Speaker 1: eliminate two things. One, it's not your aim, and it's

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Speaker 1: not the way you set the club face up at

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Speaker 1: a dress. It's what you're doing in your golf swing

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Speaker 1: that's causing that. So then when you hit a good shot,

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Speaker 1: you can go back and say, okay, yeah, that's yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right where I'm aimed. Or you can hit a

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Speaker 1: bad one and say, okay, that ball went forty yards

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Speaker 1: right of where I'm aiming. What would cause That's got

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Speaker 1: to be the face and the path. It's just so

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Speaker 1: I think part of getting better at golf is having

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Speaker 1: an understanding as to what is actually happening when you're

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Speaker 1: hitting shots. When you're hitting the shots that you're hitting,

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Speaker 1: but eliminate the aim as being a part of it.

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Speaker 1: What do you recommend for someone that hits iron solid,

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Speaker 1: but the driver goes everywhere and okay, iron swings, you're

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Speaker 1: hitting down on your irons, right, you're trying to take

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Speaker 1: a divot, trying to take a divot after the golf ball.

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Speaker 1: So the angle of attack with your irons is you're

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Speaker 1: going to be hitting down on it. That's the death

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Speaker 1: move with the driver, unless you've got a boatload of speed,

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Speaker 1: like Brooks and DJ. Brooks and DJ can hit down

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Speaker 1: on the driver. They can have you know, Brooks kind

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Speaker 1: of hangs out kind of one and a half degrees

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Speaker 1: down on his driver, but he's over one eighty ball speed,

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Speaker 1: so he can get away with that. So and there

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Speaker 1: are two swings, in my opinion, in golf. There's a

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Speaker 1: driver swing where the ball's on a tee. It's already

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Speaker 1: in the air, so you've got to swing up on it,

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Speaker 1: and then with the irons, you've got to hit down

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Speaker 1: on it. The problem I think for most people is

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Speaker 1: their iron swing is their driver's swing as well. They're

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Speaker 1: hitting down on the driver. Their angle of attack it's

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Speaker 1: too steep. That works with an iron, doesn't work with

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Speaker 1: a driver. Always remember that the driver is already on

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Speaker 1: a tee, so it's already in the air. When you

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Speaker 1: have an iron in your hand, the ball is on

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Speaker 1: the ground and you've got to get it into the air.

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Speaker 1: The way you get it into the air is by

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Speaker 1: hitting down on it, which makes it go up. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't work with a driver, and most people struggle with

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Speaker 1: the driver because they're hitting down it. Go to your

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Speaker 1: club at your home course and go look at the

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Speaker 1: par five tea boxes. Look at how many divots are

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Speaker 1: on the par five t boxes. You think anybody' hitting

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Speaker 1: irons off those tea boxes. You got a over five

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Speaker 1: hundred yard five, You think anyone's hitting an iron off

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Speaker 1: of that as a fifteen handicap. Hell no, they're trying

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Speaker 1: to hit the golf ball as far as they can

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Speaker 1: because they don't hit it very far. So go to

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Speaker 1: a PGA Tour event, go to a major, go to

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Speaker 1: a long par five. There have no divots on t boxes.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's sitting a driver. Hitting down on the iron works.

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Speaker 1: Hitting down on the driver does not work. So if

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Speaker 1: you're someone that's a really really solid iron player, get

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Speaker 1: on a launch monitor and look at your angle of

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Speaker 1: an attack. See if you're hitting up on it or

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Speaker 1: if you're hitting down on If you're hitting down on it,

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Speaker 1: you're going to struggle with the driver. If you're hitting

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Speaker 1: down on it, it's fact. It's just that's what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. That's an interesting one. Who's been the toughest

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Speaker 1: tour level coach or tour pro to coach? Why and

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Speaker 1: how did you adapt the two hardest players I've ever

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Speaker 1: worked with, were two very different players. Trevver immlemun I

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Speaker 1: worked with and currently right now Pat Perez. Trevor was

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Speaker 1: tough to work with because Trevor was too smart, you

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Speaker 1: know his brain. He thought too much, and we were

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Speaker 1: always trying to get Trevor to One of the years

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Speaker 1: I worked with Trevor in the early two thousands before

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Speaker 1: he won the Masters, so I was trying to get

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Speaker 1: Trevor to turn his brain off, to trust the work

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Speaker 1: that he was doing. He was a tinkerer. He was always.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we would back in the old days on

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Speaker 1: the European Tour, would be the first people on the

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Speaker 1: range in the morning. We'd hit balls for two three hours,

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Speaker 1: grinding on the golf swing. We'd go play eighteen holes

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Speaker 1: and would be the last ones on the range. And

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Speaker 1: I think Trevor would admit this. He destroyed his body

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00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: and he wore himself out by just practicing too much.

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Speaker 1: He wanted perfection, he wanted more information, and I was

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Speaker 1: always trying to make things as simple as possible. Trevor

545
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: always didn't like the way his golf swing looked. I

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Speaker 1: thought he had one of the greatest golf swings I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. Adam Scott tiger Woods in the early two

548
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: thousands used to tell me, Man, Trevor's golf swing's so good.

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00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: Trevor hated his golf swing. So it was hard to

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Speaker 1: work with Trevor because he was never satisfied with the

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Speaker 1: way he was swinging it. And we joke about it now.

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00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: It's so funny. I think I've said this story of

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00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: the pod before, but I'll say it again. You know,

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00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, when Trevor was still trying

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00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: to play on the European toury, he was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: do you have any golf swings from when you and

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00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: I worked together back in the day. I was like, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: so I sent him one from two thousand and four,

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Speaker 1: the World Cup they'd won, he and Ry Sabatine. He

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Speaker 1: had won the World Cup the year before at kiewhileand

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Speaker 1: in O three we were in Seville somewhere Savilla and

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00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: we were on the range and I sent him a

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Speaker 1: picture of his golf swing with an iron on the

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Speaker 1: range from Seville and he was like, man, I wish

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Speaker 1: I could swing that way. I was like, that was

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Speaker 1: the week I quit because you told me you had

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00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: the worst golf swing on the planet. So Trevor was

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Speaker 1: just really really hard on himself, and it was tough

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Speaker 1: on Neil Wallace's he at the time, and it was

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Speaker 1: tough on me because you know, it didn't really seem

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Speaker 1: like we could. It was never perfect enough for Trevor,

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Speaker 1: and he was so hard on himself. So he was

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Speaker 1: tough to work with because he just was so hard

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Speaker 1: on himself because he hated He always thought his golf

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Speaker 1: swing was terrible, and he had one of the best

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Speaker 1: golf swings on the planet. And then currently Pat Perez,

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Speaker 1: who I'm working with right now. Pat's forty eight years old.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, was in a car accident,

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Speaker 1: broke his pelvis in three places. His body can do

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Speaker 1: what his body can do, and there were a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that his body can't do. So one of

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Speaker 1: the difficulties in working with someone like Pat is he

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Speaker 1: makes me a better coach because I have to find

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Speaker 1: a way to work around the limitations he has from

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Speaker 1: a body standpoint. I try and get him to do

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Speaker 1: what Brooks and DJ does. He's gonna have them in

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00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: the hospital with back issues, hip issues, knee issue. He

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00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: can't do it. So it's hard at times because we're

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Speaker 1: working around the limitations that he has. But I think

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Speaker 1: it makes me a better coach. People with great golf swings,

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00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: they're easy to work with. Adam Scott. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you're working with Adam Scott, it's it's an embarrassment of

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Speaker 1: riches of how good that golf swing is? Ry McElroy,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how good's that golf swing? Yeah, Tommy Fleetwood,

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00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: how good's that golf swing? But they don't win every week, right,

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Speaker 1: And so I think I've been lucky enough in my career.

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Speaker 1: I've worked with guys that have great, aesthetically looking golf swings.

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Speaker 1: Darren Clark, Adam Scott, Trevor Emmlman. We worked to try

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Speaker 1: and have the golf swings look good, function good, be

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00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: in great positions. I'm very proud of that. I've also

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00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: worked with guys like Graham McDowell. I've also worked with

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00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: a like DJ and Brooks and Pat and other people

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00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: that don't have aesthetically perfect golf swings. So I think

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Speaker 1: working with players where you have to work around what

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Speaker 1: they do, I think it forces me to be a

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00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: better instructor. I think it's it's hard, it's but it

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00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: makes me think, it makes me focus, it makes me

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Speaker 1: curious into how can I solve this problem around what

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00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: this player can do? So yeah, good question. I would

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Speaker 1: love to hear your opinion advice on breaking into instruction Listen.

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Speaker 1: I am lucky enough to work alongside at my dad's

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00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: academy here at the Floridian. I've got a great team

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Speaker 1: around me, Ryan Chrysler and Matt Gallant. I have two

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Speaker 1: academies under my own brand, Claude Harmon Golf Performance, one

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00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: in Dubai and one that I just opened up in Thailand.

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Speaker 1: I've got a great team of people around me. I've

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00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: got seven instructors in Thailand. We're gonna end up probably

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Speaker 1: with three in Dubai. We're probably gonna end up with

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Speaker 1: three or four in Thailand. And you know, I always

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Speaker 1: say to the young instructors, learn learn as much as

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Speaker 1: you can. I mean, we live in the information age.

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00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: There are so much stuff online. There are so many

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Speaker 1: seminars you can go to, there are so many books,

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00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: podcasts like this that you can listen to. But getting

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00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: into instruction, you just got to give lessons. There's a

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00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: girl that I teach who lives in Canada. She tried

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00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: to play, wanted to play professionally. She's made the decision

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00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: to trying to get into instruction now, so I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my best to try and help her as much as

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Speaker 1: I can. She's working at an indoor facility in Toronto

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Speaker 1: and she's just given basic golf lessons to basic golfers

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Speaker 1: who are just trying to learn what I do and

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Speaker 1: what I'm lucky enough to do to work with elite

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Speaker 1: professional golfers. I've been doing this for I'm fifty five now.

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00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: I've been doing this over twenty years. It wasn't always

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Speaker 1: like this. I can remember going to Portugal. I worked

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Speaker 1: in Portugal at Paneros Altos in the algar southern Portugal,

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Speaker 1: and I gave lessons to German golfers who I remember

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Speaker 1: giving a golf lesson to a woman in her fifties.

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Speaker 1: Once she came in and she had booked me for

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Speaker 1: two hours a day every day for a week, and

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Speaker 1: she had fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars worth of clothes on,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the best golf clothes, the best shoes,

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Speaker 1: everything like that. She didn't have golf clubs and I

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Speaker 1: will never forget this, she said. I said, where are

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Speaker 1: your golf clubs? She says, I don't have any, but

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Speaker 1: all my friends play golf and I want to learn

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Speaker 1: how to play golf. I said, great, So I gave

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Speaker 1: her a sand wedge. You know, she said, I wondered

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Speaker 1: what one of these would look like. I said, what

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Speaker 1: the sandwich would look like? She said, no, golf club.

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Speaker 1: Never seen a golf club before. That's how I started

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. I gave golf lessons to people that

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Speaker 1: never even seen a golf club before. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to get into a golf instruction, you know, find

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Speaker 1: a club get into. You could go through the PGA

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Speaker 1: of America route and go through become a PGA pro

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Speaker 1: and go work at a club and do that. You

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Speaker 1: can take TPI, sept all, the Titleist Performance Institute, all

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Speaker 1: their Level one stuff. You learn a lot through there.

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Speaker 1: But becoming a golf instructor is basically like becoming a chef.

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Speaker 1: How do you get to become a chef? You just

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Speaker 1: don't one day walk into a restaurant and start cooking.

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Speaker 1: You start at the bottom and you work your way up.

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Speaker 1: So's you got to start at the bottom. You got

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Speaker 1: to give golf lessons to people that don't know how

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Speaker 1: to play golf, and that's where I think you learn

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Speaker 1: your craft, your delivery, your philosophy. I think it's very

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Speaker 1: important for anyone out there that's listening to this as

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Speaker 1: a golf instructor. I'm sure I've said this before on

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Speaker 1: previous pods, but find out what you believe in the

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Speaker 1: golf swing that makes players better, not what I believe,

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Speaker 1: Not what Pete Cowan believes, or Butch Harmon or Dana

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Speaker 1: Dolquiz or mac Mark Blackburn or Sean Foley or any

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Speaker 1: of the people that I've had on the podcast before.

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Speaker 1: I've had some of the best golf instructors on the

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Speaker 1: planet on the podcast. But I think if you're going

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Speaker 1: to become an instructor, and golf instruction is going to

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00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: become your life and your life's work and your profession,

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Speaker 1: you've got to figure out what you believe makes golfers better,

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Speaker 1: not what I believe. And that's one of the things

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Speaker 1: that I challenge all of my instructors to do, is

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Speaker 1: they present their philosophy to me. Every year when I

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Speaker 1: go to my academy in Dubai, I always have my

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Speaker 1: instructors put a presentation together as if they were going

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Speaker 1: to give a teaching coaching summit seminar and they were

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Speaker 1: the keynote speakers. And tell me what you believe in

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00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: the golf swing, tell me what you believe makes a

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Speaker 1: player better. And I think it's important to do that,

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Speaker 1: But you just got to stand there and give golf lessons.

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Speaker 1: Got to give golf lessons all day, every day. And

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Speaker 1: that's when I'm not on tour. That's what I do.

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Speaker 1: I teach eight hours a day to regular golfers. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough at this point in my career to

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Speaker 1: work with a lot of elite players that are trying

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Speaker 1: to play competitively. But I work at a private club,

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Speaker 1: the Floridian here, and I work with members and their

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Speaker 1: wives and sometimes girlfriends and sons and daughters. And these

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Speaker 1: are not elite golfers. And you know, that's that's something

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Speaker 1: that I hope that I never stopped doing. I enjoy it,

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Speaker 1: I love it. And if you want to be an instructor,

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Speaker 1: get in the kitchen, start figuring out how to cook,

703
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: and start figuring out how to give golf lessons and

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Speaker 1: figure out what you believe makes a good good player.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for the questions. If you

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Speaker 1: like this stuff, I'll try and do a couple of these,

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Speaker 1: you know, at least once a month. I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: do them. Answer your questions. It's kind of cool to

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Speaker 1: hear what you guys want to hear a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions on getting this player that player on the pod. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I ask players all the time from all the tours

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Speaker 1: to come on the pod. It's hard to work on

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Speaker 1: their schedules and my schedules and stuff, but I've got some.

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Speaker 1: I've got some big players that that have requested to

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Speaker 1: be on the pod, so hopefully and get those recorded soon.

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Speaker 1: We'll get Brooks and DJ on this thing one time.

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Speaker 1: Be fascinating to get their opinion. Trying to pin those

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Speaker 1: two guys down on time is uh yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: always fun. But can't thank everyone enough for listening. When

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Speaker 1: I go to majors and even when I go to

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Speaker 1: the live events, somebody always comes up and says they're

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Speaker 1: they're a fan of the podcast. I continue been doing

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Speaker 1: this now almost three years. We've got over two million downloads.

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Speaker 1: I continue to be amazed at the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm currently sitting in my office recording a podcast, and

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Speaker 1: we put it out there and people listen. It's it's

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Speaker 1: amazing to me. I'm so thankful and and I'm honored

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Speaker 1: that people take forty five minutes, half hour, an hour

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Speaker 1: out of their day to listen to me talk about

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Speaker 1: golf with other people. And it really does mean a

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Speaker 1: lot to me. It's really special something I'm very very

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Speaker 1: proud of. And I can't thank all of you, the

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Speaker 1: people that listen on a weekly basis. It means a

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Speaker 1: lot to me. So keep listening. I'll keep trying to

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Speaker 1: come up with different topics, rate reviews, scribe wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcast. Good podcast next week, it's one I'm

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Speaker 1: really really proud of, a really really cool one. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna want to tune in it. It's special to me.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's a good one. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Hmmm hmm