Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong.
Speaker 2: And Joe Getty arm Strong and Jetty and he Armstrong
Speaker 2: and Yetty. I am Cole Jr.
Speaker 1: A thirty year old white man from the DC Suburbs,
Speaker 1: is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce
Speaker 1: and with malicious destruction. Now, if you follow the story
Speaker 1: throughout today, it was not a white man white. Jake
Speaker 1: Tapper went with he was a white guy. Now, I
Speaker 1: got to admit I was expecting a white guy. The
Speaker 1: whole pipe.
Speaker 2: Kind of felt like a white dude to me.
Speaker 1: Pipe bombs left at the rn C and the d
Speaker 1: NC is a bearded, fat white guy in a Carhart
Speaker 1: jacket crime or a skinny Seattle.
Speaker 3: You're right hoodie guy and tefa hoodie right radical Marxist
Speaker 3: politics baba.
Speaker 1: Either way, Yeah a has a master's degree in something
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. But yeah, that's a white guy crime.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't expecting a black guy. So so Jake did.
Speaker 3: Jake ed live that because he wanted everyone to make
Speaker 3: sure that they knew that he knows that white people
Speaker 3: are bad. Or was that on his teleprompter for his
Speaker 3: talking Eric had to repeat, or why.
Speaker 1: Mention the race at all if you're not sure, or
Speaker 1: even if you are sure, I'm not sure why it
Speaker 1: makes any difference whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I think it actually might for reasons that we can
Speaker 2: get into.
Speaker 1: Well, let's listen to the ABC report on the finally
Speaker 1: catching the guy five years later, and then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 4: Brian Cole Junior was arrested and charged with placing the
Speaker 4: pipe bombs at the RNC and the DNC.
Speaker 5: Law enforcement swarming the home where he lives with his parents.
Speaker 5: Authority said the arrest came not from a new tip,
Speaker 5: but coming back through mill pieces of evidence, including cell
Speaker 5: phone data that allegedly places a phone used by Cole
Speaker 5: along the route the day the bombs were planted, a
Speaker 5: photo that allegedly places his vehicle near the crime scene,
Speaker 5: and financial transactions they say show Cole bought materials from
Speaker 5: an area home depot that could be used to make bombs.
Speaker 1: And he's a thirty year old dude that lives at
Speaker 1: home and is described as he works for the family
Speaker 1: business but only a couple hours a day, doesn't really
Speaker 1: have any friends, walks around with headphones a lot picks
Speaker 1: a dog.
Speaker 2: Boats on his jiwawa jack.
Speaker 1: According to one report, I'm wondering if maybe he's, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, a youngster that's not cut out to go
Speaker 1: out into the world to make a living, and then
Speaker 1: they'd let him work at the family business a couple
Speaker 1: hours a day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy.
Speaker 3: Look, he was twenty five when he allegedly committed a crime.
Speaker 3: You know, it sure looks to me like it's going
Speaker 3: to be a disaffected, alienated young man with no attachment,
Speaker 3: no partner, isolated, decided to get into radical politics. He
Speaker 3: was and we've talked about this in the context of
Speaker 3: the Charlie Kirk thing. Experts in the sort of thing
Speaker 3: will tell you these people often they're angry and they
Speaker 3: want to hurt somebody. Then they latch onto an ideology
Speaker 3: quite late in the game and then commit an act
Speaker 3: of violence almost immediately. They don't spend years campaigning for
Speaker 3: that cause or whatever, sacrificing and thinking.
Speaker 2: In Oregon.
Speaker 3: No, they just think I would have hurt somebody. Here's
Speaker 3: a cause. Yeah, I'm into that, let's hurt somebody.
Speaker 1: It's quite possible that at this point five years later,
Speaker 1: he wishes he hadn't or has a completely different view
Speaker 1: of the world or who knows.
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, sure, the growth from twenty five to thirty
Speaker 3: is a lot, you know, the case by case obviously,
Speaker 3: but that's a lot of insuring. So and I'm not
Speaker 3: defending the guy. He did something abhorrent and terrible. Here's
Speaker 3: a question for you. Because he was trying to bomb,
Speaker 3: allegedly both the RNC and the dance twenty five year
Speaker 3: old black man seven months after George Floyd got killed.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking he was a Swede by the Neo Marxist
Speaker 3: systemic racism. This country's corrupted needs to be brought down.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 1: And the fact that it happened so close to the
Speaker 1: January sixth ride is just a coincidence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, except that he might have known there was going
Speaker 3: to be a big gathering in d C. Because he lived,
Speaker 3: you know, in the suburbs. He might have thought, oh, hey,
Speaker 3: this is perfect, this is perfect timing.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was hoping those bombs would go
Speaker 1: off and hurt her kill people.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's one of the great questions to this case, because
Speaker 3: it is said by the authorities they were both capable
Speaker 3: of going off and causing terrible damage.
Speaker 2: But didn't. Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's not a coincidence.
Speaker 3: It was the January sixth, because there's a big rally
Speaker 3: that day, but it had nothing to do with Stop
Speaker 3: to Steal or the rally itself, I suspect, So I
Speaker 3: think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: So my my taking in of this information throughout the
Speaker 1: day yesterday through mainstream media led me to believe that
Speaker 1: it was a whole There was no new information that
Speaker 1: was found. They took information that had already been gathered
Speaker 1: and pieced it together and figured out who the guy was.
Speaker 1: Now that's the way it was presented to me. It
Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's not super easy if you
Speaker 1: got a million different things to bring them all together
Speaker 1: in a way that aha, you figure out who it is,
Speaker 1: and that they just threw reopening the case and relooking
Speaker 1: at it, figured it out. But you're saying cash Ptel says, no,
Speaker 1: that's not what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we have that audio ready, I've got the
Speaker 2: quote in front of me, but yeah, we do. Go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 6: As to this specific case, the pipe bomber, you're right,
Speaker 6: the prior administration sat on the evidence for four years.
Speaker 6: There wasn't any production of new evidence from five years ago.
Speaker 2: Here's what we did.
Speaker 6: We went out to the country, brought in our experts,
Speaker 6: and Deputy Director Bongino led the charge and said, we're
Speaker 6: going to look at every single piece of evidence again trace.
Speaker 6: We looked at three million lines of evidence. We went
Speaker 6: back and looked at the cell phone tower data dumps.
Speaker 6: We went back and looked at the providers and what
Speaker 6: information they provided, pursued to search warrant at the time
Speaker 6: and asked questions such as why weren't all the phone
Speaker 6: numbers scrubbed, and why weren't they connected? And why wasn't
Speaker 6: there any geolocational data done? Now, that is either sheering
Speaker 6: competence or complete intentional negligence, and neither of which is
Speaker 6: acceptable for this FBI.
Speaker 2: That's a heck of a thing to say.
Speaker 3: That is really, really strong and presuming he was beaten
Speaker 3: truthful with the they didn't scrub the phone numbers go
Speaker 3: through them, you know anyway, why wasn't there any geolocational
Speaker 3: data done? That's how they got the butcher of Idaho,
Speaker 3: the killer of those poor college kids.
Speaker 1: So hard to imagine why the Biden administration wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been really hot to try to figure out who this was,
Speaker 1: because I think they would have assumed it was a
Speaker 1: Maga person that they could have you know, piled on
Speaker 1: to that whole story.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So well, either Cash Mattel is wrong about what he
Speaker 3: just said, or if he's right, this is an enormous
Speaker 3: scandal slash question because sometimes, you.
Speaker 1: Know, when we all watch crime shows, we do, everybody does, movies, whatever,
Speaker 1: sometimes a new detective can come along and look at
Speaker 1: the same evidence and figure out something. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that people before them were incompetent or corrupt, they just
Speaker 1: didn't see it for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but although he's just absolutely unequivocal, Yeah, no, he is.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a scathing accusation. But like I said,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to me. I doubt that they
Speaker 1: assumed that this would protect them in some way.
Speaker 3: One possible explanation, and I don't think this is true.
Speaker 3: Probably it was that they figured out that it was
Speaker 3: not a Maga person, that it was you know, a
Speaker 3: young black democrat, but then covered it up.
Speaker 2: That's that's a stretch. Yeah, that is really a stretch.
Speaker 3: I mean, you'd have somebody in the FBI who would
Speaker 3: leak the truth because most the vast majority of the
Speaker 3: people in the FBI are serious patriotic Americans who are
Speaker 3: trying to enforce the law and protect everybody. There are
Speaker 3: some bad, bad apples back in the day in Washington,
Speaker 3: d C. At headquarters, no doubt, but yes, this is
Speaker 3: it's troubling. There's got to be an explanation to that question.
Speaker 3: What happened in the last five years, So he didn't
Speaker 3: he didn't have much of a footprint computer, social media wise,
Speaker 3: or anything like that, so it's hard to know what
Speaker 3: he was thinking, right this pipe bomber.
Speaker 2: Dude, Mm hmm, yeah, huh, yeah, I would miss.
Speaker 1: The biggest question to me is did he intend to
Speaker 1: have those go off and hurt a bunch of people?
Speaker 1: Or does he was he kind of like practically a
Speaker 1: vandal in a real troll in a yeah, in a
Speaker 1: really pathetic.
Speaker 2: Sort of way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I certainly hope he has a good attorney
Speaker 3: in the atturne and he's telling them look plead guilty
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Speaker 2: That looks enjoyable to me.
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Speaker 3: and they shouldn't be about the reviewer, you know, pleasuring
Speaker 3: himself or herself and showing how smart they are, and
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Speaker 2: Of these, right, exactly.
Speaker 3: Don't have the classical music writer review the latest punk album,
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Speaker 1: In news about Netflix, they're trying to acquire Warner Brothers
Speaker 1: Film Studio and the stream service HBO Max would make,
Speaker 1: which would make them even more of a behemoth than
Speaker 1: they are. They're looking to just dominate that whole space
Speaker 1: Netflix is and they're always already a five hundred pound
Speaker 1: gorilla for whatever reason in the last hour that Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has come out and said he's very got heavy
Speaker 1: skepticism about whether or not this deal should happen. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if it gets into the world of
Speaker 1: monopolies or what they're I haven't seen there, gets into
Speaker 1: the world of the Trump administration is way too willing
Speaker 1: to interfere with commerce in my opinion.
Speaker 3: You know, I've got another hot take about Trump screwing
Speaker 3: something up, and you know, here's here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Are you for Trump or against him? I'm for you,
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Kamala Harris, some great Kamala Harris stuff coming up,
Speaker 3: stay with us, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just you know what it is.
Speaker 3: It's about the Somali thing in Minneapolis. This is an enormous, shining,
Speaker 3: bipartisan admission that our welfare systems are utterly corrupt and
Speaker 3: waste money. There's rampant fraud. It's absolutely disgusting, and it
Speaker 3: is a horrific betrayal of the American taxpayer. And Trump
Speaker 3: is making it about immigration.
Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, the Republicans should hammer this all the
Speaker 1: way up to the election. Make it their issue welfare
Speaker 1: fraud or all kinds of fraud, and but making it
Speaker 1: specifically about the somalies is just only about the somomy.
Speaker 1: It's just too easy to refute it as racism or whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, right, yeah, and I'm not saying there's no issue.
Speaker 3: There absolutely is an issue with you know, allowing a
Speaker 3: hostile culture to come in their tens of thousands. They
Speaker 3: hate us, they hate our cultor they hate our world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one hundred percent an.
Speaker 3: Issue, but it's not like the most useful issue here,
Speaker 3: and it's not the core issue.
Speaker 1: So Netflix to acquire Warner Brothers following that blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah value of eighty two point seven billion dollars.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are some really big, giant companies that
Speaker 1: are coming together. As a lot of people have pointed out,
Speaker 1: there's a certain amount of bundling that's going on with
Speaker 1: all these companies into one thing that's very similar to
Speaker 1: what Cable used to be or you know, you got
Speaker 1: it through dish or or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3: Although media is changing so fast, the idea that this
Speaker 3: is a monopoly or that that is it's just no
Speaker 3: it'll change so quickly. What's true today won't be true tomorrow.
Speaker 3: It's like calling my Space a monopoly. You know, a
Speaker 3: week later, nobody it's gone.
Speaker 1: I tried to wean myself off a bunch of subscriptions
Speaker 1: Hulu and Netflix and HBO, Max and Peacock and all
Speaker 1: these other I've canceled liked them all six months, nine
Speaker 1: months ago, and I've slowly added them back in as
Speaker 1: a show comes along or a movie that you know,
Speaker 1: me and my kids want to see, and it's only
Speaker 1: on this one, so I sign up next thing. You know,
Speaker 1: I got them all again. They got you, they got me, woof,
Speaker 1: they got me. It's hard to get away. So Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris wrote a really stupid book and went on a
Speaker 1: stupid tour, and it got heavy reviews of how stupid
Speaker 1: the whole thing was. She apparently lied about Governor Josh
Speaker 1: Shapiro Pennsylvania. He did not dig that at all. We
Speaker 1: have some quotes from him we can get to coming up.
Speaker 3: The famously measured Josh Shapiro lost his s and was
Speaker 3: immediately regretful for it.
Speaker 2: Hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably running for president. I don't know that
Speaker 1: she is. Gavin definitely is.
Speaker 3: And the idea that that half what would run again,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's too good to be true.
Speaker 2: Christmas President. So we've got all that on the way.
Speaker 1: Stay with us if you missed a second to get
Speaker 1: the podcast, Armstrong and Getty. It is time for us
Speaker 1: to do what we have been doing in that time
Speaker 1: as every day there.
Speaker 2: You go, her greatest hit. That's her, uh, that's her, her.
Speaker 1: Emmy, her Oscar, her everything for Kamala Harris. And that's
Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about here.
Speaker 3: To call Kamala Harris a mediocrity is to pay her
Speaker 3: a compliment.
Speaker 2: She does not deserve.
Speaker 3: You think about it, You think about Kamala Halfwit Harris
Speaker 3: and Tim open Wallet Waltz. If that is not the
Speaker 3: weakest ticket in American history, it is in the top five.
Speaker 2: Eh.
Speaker 1: She is the most qualified person to ever run for
Speaker 1: president and America wasn't ready for a black female president.
Speaker 1: Those are both absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 3: So the Atlantic in the person of this Chap's named
Speaker 3: Tim Alberta.
Speaker 2: That's a cool name.
Speaker 1: He sounds like he ought to be some sort of
Speaker 1: Americana singer, you know, acoustic guitar cowboy hat.
Speaker 2: Tim Alberta. Yeah. Anyway, So he goes to.
Speaker 3: Talk to Josh Shapiro about a couple of things, and
Speaker 3: he says, I knew, from speaking to people close to
Speaker 3: Josh Shapiro, the governor of Minister of Pennsylvania off the
Speaker 3: rumored presidential candidate. He was looked at very seriously to
Speaker 3: be Kamala Harris's running mate.
Speaker 2: But he's a Jew. It's a good point anyway.
Speaker 3: That was the view of a lot of the left
Speaker 3: wing of the Democratic Party who are flaming anti Semite. Anyway,
Speaker 3: the guy writes, from speaking to people close to Shapiro,
Speaker 3: I knew that he'd lost some respect for the former
Speaker 3: vice president during the campaign, not simply because she shows
Speaker 3: someone else as a running mate. In Shapiro's view, given
Speaker 3: the near existential stakes for both the Democratic Party and
Speaker 3: America Democracy, please, Harris's lapses during the election, in particularly
Speaker 3: ignoring Joe Biden's obviously decline, were unforgivable, but he had
Speaker 3: been careful not to say so publicly. Shapiro's kind of
Speaker 3: the anti Trump, and that he's very measured and very strategic,
Speaker 3: and he only plays his cards when he thinks it's
Speaker 3: best to play them. Anyway, Uh, Shapiro knew I was
Speaker 3: gonna ask him about Harris. What he didn't know is
Speaker 3: that early copies of her book were then making the
Speaker 3: rounds among reporters, having obtained the relevant sections of one
Speaker 3: hundred and seven Days. And that morning I asked Shapiro
Speaker 3: if Harris had given him and he heads up about
Speaker 3: her books. She had not, he said, And I told him,
Speaker 3: you know, Harris took some shots at you. Shapiro furred
Speaker 3: his brow and crossed his arms. Okay, he said, I
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have crossed my arms because that's just too
Speaker 1: much of a giveaway.
Speaker 3: The man I observed over the next several minutes was unrecognizable.
Speaker 2: Gone was his equilibrium.
Speaker 3: He moved between outrage and exasperation as I relaid the excerpts.
Speaker 1: You know why Harris, You know why he's so angry
Speaker 1: before we even get into him. He has so little
Speaker 1: respect for her. That's what makes him so mad. So
Speaker 1: this dunderpate is coming at me. Oh, give me a break.
Speaker 3: This intellectual, lightweight, single party state slept her way to
Speaker 3: the top.
Speaker 2: Half wit who is coming at me? Ouch? Hey, if
Speaker 2: the panties fit wear them?
Speaker 1: Wow, that's right, another misogyny Friday the armstrong again.
Speaker 3: No, no, it's an accuracy. Truth is an absolute defense
Speaker 3: against misogyny. Anyway, let's see, all right, the man I
Speaker 3: observed unrecognizable. Gone was his equilibrium. He moved between outrage
Speaker 3: and exasperation as that relayed the excerpts Harris had accused
Speaker 3: him in essence of measuring the drapes, even inquiring about
Speaker 3: featuring Pennsylvania artists and the vice presidential residence, of insisting
Speaker 3: quote that he would want to be in the room
Speaker 3: for every decision Harris might make, and more generally, of
Speaker 3: hijacking the conversation when she interviewed him for the job,
Speaker 3: to the point where she reminded them that you will
Speaker 3: not be a co president.
Speaker 2: She wrote that in her book, he said, in response
Speaker 2: to the claim, blah blah.
Speaker 3: Blah, that's complete and utter a bulls fed, using the
Speaker 3: actual word, obviously, I can tell you that her accounts
Speaker 3: are just blatant lies.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's not measured. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: After reading Harris's book, talking with people from both camps,
Speaker 3: I found descriptions of the meeting could be mostly consistent.
Speaker 3: Shapiro arrived in an edgy mood, chafing at efforts among
Speaker 3: fellow Democrats to Sabotagees tryout Shapiro is Jewish, was specially
Speaker 3: irked by anti Semitic innuendo from the left. The two
Speaker 3: skip past any semblance of small talk in Shapiro proceeded
Speaker 3: to interview Harris rather than the other way around. I
Speaker 3: did ask a bunch of questions, Shapiro told me, sounding exasperated.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you ask questions if someone was talking to you
Speaker 3: about forming a partnership and working together?
Speaker 1: Well, wait, you kind of YadA YadA, YadA this so
Speaker 1: you're saying the interviewer from the Atlantic. The writer from
Speaker 1: the Atlantic says, other people have told them that her
Speaker 1: account is pretty consistent with what happened. Yes, okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Well that he was, he interviewed her. Yeah, well, I've
Speaker 1: been in that sort of situation before. It really turns
Speaker 1: me off. No, no, no, no, you've got this backwards.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: And then he was annoyed because Harris was portraying him
Speaker 3: in ways consistent with the whispers that had dogged him
Speaker 3: throughout the vetting process and throughout his career that he
Speaker 3: was selfish, petty, and monomoniacally ambitious given the fact that
Speaker 3: they'd known each other for twenty years, Shapiro said with
Speaker 3: a groan. I asked whether he felt betrayed. I mean,
Speaker 3: she's trying to sell books and cover her ass, Shapiro snapped.
Speaker 3: So Mitt stared past me, now shaking his head, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. Then quickly, I shouldn't say cover her ass.
Speaker 3: I think that's not appropriate. She's trying to sell books, period.
Speaker 3: He collected it too late.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you just said to a reporter in an interview
Speaker 1: on the record. At that point, there's no fixing. So
Speaker 1: I was about to say, is he angry because she
Speaker 1: let out what actually happened or angry? But no, he
Speaker 1: says blatant lies. So he's claiming that that's not the
Speaker 1: way I went down. Uh yeah, the blatant lies part.
Speaker 2: What was that?
Speaker 3: Referring to well, complete and utter bull spit that he
Speaker 3: was practically measuring the drapes and inquired about featuring Pennsylvania
Speaker 3: artists and the vice presidential residence and the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Who knows, who knows? Well?
Speaker 1: Did he actually say I need to be in the
Speaker 1: room for every decision.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wasn't there.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have nothing more to say about Josh Shapiro
Speaker 3: and his prospects.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't care.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was funny that he caught out
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris so forcefully and interview on the record.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'd like to know what actually happened there.
Speaker 2: I could see him going led it though you nailed it.
Speaker 2: He has no respect.
Speaker 1: He went in with that attitude with no respect for her,
Speaker 1: so he probably was a little over the top. He
Speaker 1: went in with the you're kind of an accidental You're
Speaker 1: like a gerald Ford style president, just like the all
Speaker 1: these dominoes fell in such a way that you might
Speaker 1: end up president.
Speaker 3: I would be doing you a favor by lending you
Speaker 3: my gravitas, right, and you're too stupid to understand.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel. Well, as it.
Speaker 3: Turns out, she's not quite that stupid, and in her
Speaker 3: book she calls him out for coming in with some tude.
Speaker 3: So now we know precisely how stupid she is and
Speaker 3: how stupid she's not.
Speaker 2: She noticed that.
Speaker 1: Hmm. Well, remember, and this is getting into the weeds
Speaker 1: a little bit on this sort of thing, but remember
Speaker 1: the way she ended up being the running mate was
Speaker 1: a couple of different things. But when Biden was looking
Speaker 1: for his vice presidential running mate, a lot of the
Speaker 1: names that floated up all of a sudden appo research
Speaker 1: would get dumped on these people, and Biden knew it
Speaker 1: was coming from Kamala, and he liked the fact that, Okay,
Speaker 1: she understands how this game is played, and she and
Speaker 1: she is ready to throw elbows to get what she wants.
Speaker 2: That's what he liked about her.
Speaker 1: So it's possible that she is incompetent in all kinds
Speaker 1: of different ways, and she clearly is, but not in
Speaker 1: the ways of fighting dirty in politics to get ahead,
Speaker 1: which is how she rose to the you know that,
Speaker 1: and maybe being a little hot and a little willing
Speaker 1: to be friends to certain people.
Speaker 2: Billy Brown was charming. I met Willie Brown, I was.
Speaker 3: Charmed or uh, yeah, oh, she's unquestionably a skilled climber.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at what she's you know, the jobs
Speaker 3: she's held and done very badly at.
Speaker 2: But yeah, skilled climber. You got to give her that.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I'd never make it in politics,
Speaker 1: and there's like a million reasons, is uh, you've got
Speaker 1: to be willing to just realize it's part of the deal.
Speaker 1: Everybody screws everybody. Nobody's friends with anybody. You're friendly to
Speaker 1: somebody on a moment by moment basis, if it helps you,
Speaker 1: you'll turn on them a second later, and then you
Speaker 1: go back to being friends five minutes later. If you've
Speaker 1: switched to a different topic. And I couldn't. I would
Speaker 1: never be able to live like that. We're we're either
Speaker 1: friends or we're not.
Speaker 3: But plus, Michael and I have been compiling a catalog
Speaker 3: of your you know, your missteps for years.
Speaker 2: In fact, we had to start a second volume, so yeah,
Speaker 2: there might be a third.
Speaker 3: Give it a while anyway, Thank god, we don't have
Speaker 3: to worry about presidential politics for a Oh, Gavin Newsom
Speaker 3: just gave a speech in South Carolina. Yeah what, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know. I mean I need to pay attention to it.
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Speaker 1: Remember when I was interacting with that woman who was
Speaker 1: claiming we were in a relationship, and I was just
Speaker 1: trying to see how far the scam would go or
Speaker 1: when she would ask me for money or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the email thing. Yeah, where was she was?
Speaker 1: She was were Ukrainian or Russian or something like that anyway,
Speaker 1: And I still don't know how she I got my
Speaker 1: email address originally, but at some point I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just the mood I was in that day. I
Speaker 1: just was tired of dealing with it because I had
Speaker 1: played along for quite some time, and she'd send me
Speaker 1: these pictures and talk about how in love we were beautiful.
Speaker 1: I finally sent her I said, hey, you know, I
Speaker 1: just have gotten busy and I don't have time to
Speaker 1: go along with this anymore. So I've been playing along
Speaker 1: with this just to see when you were going to
Speaker 1: finally ask for money.
Speaker 2: And I said, I'm just curious, like it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't bother you at all, that you play upon people's
Speaker 1: emotions and like lonely desperate people think you actually like them,
Speaker 1: and then you make some money off of it, that
Speaker 1: you sleep okay at night with that act.
Speaker 2: And then I just never heard anything back from her.
Speaker 3: Of course, what do you think they might have replied,
Speaker 3: as I've brought this story to you that look, I'm
Speaker 3: an Indonesian fisherman. I was snatched up by the Chinese.
Speaker 3: I'm being held against my will. Hmmm, they make me
Speaker 3: do this all day long?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Huh, that's what I think. Thought. Now,
Speaker 2: if you'll excuse me, I'm off to scam somebody else.
Speaker 2: Oh so, no, I'm supposed to feel bad.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, should think about somebody other thane of yourself
Speaker 1: for once, fisherman, how about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh boy.
Speaker 3: So the whole multi zillion dollar climate scam is on
Speaker 3: the rocks and for a good reason, but the climate
Speaker 3: activists seem to have no concept of why that is.
Speaker 3: It's not that people have woken up to the giant
Speaker 3: scam and how it's crippled economies without doing any good.
Speaker 3: It's misinformation and disinformation by evildoers has swayed the minds
Speaker 3: of people.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that ruse is over, we'll talk about that. No
Speaker 1: stuff on the way.
Speaker 2: Stay here.
Speaker 7: Well, guys, we've eventually kicked off the holiday season, and
Speaker 7: they're always filled with little highs and lows. The high
Speaker 7: when your child enjoys a candy cane, and a low
Speaker 7: when they suck it down to a ship and say.
Speaker 2: Get me a little boo boo. Or else.
Speaker 7: There's a high when opening an advent calendar and a
Speaker 7: low when realizing all the chocolate expired during.
Speaker 2: The Reagan administration. So it be great, I said.
Speaker 7: There's a high wind seeing Santa at the mall, and
Speaker 7: the low when the whiskey and Santa's breast singes.
Speaker 2: Your nose hair. And finally there's a high.
Speaker 7: When attending your office Christmas party, and then there's a
Speaker 7: low when attending a private party the next day.
Speaker 2: In hr it all evens out. Do we have any
Speaker 2: kind of Christmas party? Yeah?
Speaker 7: We do.
Speaker 2: We have some sort of lunch. When is that next week?
Speaker 2: That's a check that's jack to date. But yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I should go to that a Christmas lunch. Nothing says
Speaker 2: festivities more than lunch. Is in the building? Is it
Speaker 2: here in the building?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I remember back in the old days when you had
Speaker 1: real Christmas parties and people bring their spouses and get
Speaker 1: dressed up.
Speaker 2: Those are awesome good times. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have no interest in the who's a better basketball player,
Speaker 1: Lebron James or Michael Jordan. You can't drag me into
Speaker 1: that conversation. But an interesting record came to an end
Speaker 1: last night for Lebron James, who might finally be old
Speaker 1: at age forty. He had a Hall of Fame level
Speaker 1: season last year. If he'd averaged what he averaged last
Speaker 1: year his whole career, he'd be in the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame at age thirty nine. This year, he's dropped off
Speaker 1: quite a bit, and last night, for the first time
Speaker 1: in many, many years, he scored less than ten points
Speaker 1: in a game, ending his record streak of almost thirteen
Speaker 1: hundred consecutive games of scoring at least ten points in
Speaker 1: a game.
Speaker 2: He scored eight last night.
Speaker 1: He did, to his credit, by the way, have a
Speaker 1: chance to make ten points at the Veria in the game,
Speaker 1: but he passed the ball to somebody else. They scored
Speaker 1: the winning basket. He was asked afterwards, you have any regrets,
Speaker 1: He said, no, we won.
Speaker 2: That's the whole goal.
Speaker 1: Twelve hundred and ninety seven consecutive games. Second place by
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is eight sixty six, four.
Speaker 2: Hundred games shorter. I mean, that's stunning.
Speaker 1: Some of the numbers that Lebron has are just amazing,
Speaker 1: you know, for how long he's played at such a
Speaker 1: high level. But he might finally be old, So this
Speaker 1: has got to be his last season. I would assume,
Speaker 1: although time is undefeated, but it sure had to fight hard.
Speaker 1: In his case, God, I would say, so had to
Speaker 1: hang in there. I don't know why this story didn't
Speaker 1: get more attention.
Speaker 2: I just became aware of it myself.
Speaker 1: There was an effort, it looks like, to assassinate President
Speaker 1: Zelensky on his trip to Dublin the other day, as
Speaker 1: four drones converged in his flight path after he had
Speaker 1: flown through so his plane arrived early, and it really
Speaker 1: looks like that four drones and nobody's exactly sure where
Speaker 1: they came from, please converted right where his plane was
Speaker 1: going to be coming into the landing strip there, and
Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure that all that out plane
Speaker 1: got there earlier, and it was supposed to him the
Speaker 1: drones would would have gotten there right when his plane
Speaker 1: had gotten there and shot.
Speaker 2: Him out of this guy possibly.
Speaker 1: And I was reading one of my favorite thinkers saying,
Speaker 1: this is where we are, that there's just so much
Speaker 1: stuff going on all the time that a close call
Speaker 1: assassination attempt on a world leader in the middle of
Speaker 1: a war with all these peace negotiations happening doesn't even really.
Speaker 3: Make the news right right, Well, there are a lot
Speaker 3: of examples of that. It's just got to kind of
Speaker 3: catch on, like this Somali ripoff in Minnesota story. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that story's a couple of years old. Hell, we had
Speaker 3: it eighteen months ago, I think. But now all of
Speaker 3: a sudden it's the biggest thing in politics, partly because
Speaker 3: Trump latched onto it and is talking about it, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, like the New York Times has decided, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we probably ought to write about this. So's just too
Speaker 3: much going on, it's too wild.
Speaker 1: I mentioned yesterday that one of the great AI thinkers
Speaker 1: predicting what it's going to be like in the future,
Speaker 1: the way AI is gonna destroy civilization, if not destroy
Speaker 1: you know, all human beings, is everything is just gonna
Speaker 1: become so confusing. We're just gonna be so inundated with
Speaker 1: crap all the time that you don't know what's true
Speaker 1: and what's not and what's really happening, and just there's
Speaker 1: just so much blah constantly, And I, like Joe said,
Speaker 1: it feels like we're halfway there already.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have two completely contradictory thoughts on that. The first
Speaker 3: one is the becoming zen or confusion or praying ceaselessly
Speaker 3: or whatever. A lot more people are gonna embrace that,
Speaker 3: they're gonna check out completely from the information economy and
Speaker 3: try to live simple lives. My completely oppositional thought to
Speaker 3: that is that the evil doers will have enormous powers
Speaker 3: and we all need to be on our guard. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's definitely a fever pitch confusing age we're moving into.
Speaker 1: Well, so you mean, like checking out individually really good
Speaker 1: for you, but not is not going to help society
Speaker 1: if people that checked out can't really be motivated to
Speaker 1: get in to do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure they could do anything anyway, depending
Speaker 3: on which way the AI thing goes and who gets
Speaker 3: it and how they use it. I realized this is
Speaker 3: all kind of terrifying and dislocating. I would concentrate on
Speaker 3: the world close to you.
Speaker 2: That's what I do.
Speaker 3: There's nothing much I can do about this stuff, so
Speaker 3: I don't worry about it?
Speaker 2: Or is there?
Speaker 3: It creeps into my dream sometimes and I wake up
Speaker 3: screaming and weeping.
Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Could we get regulations in place to slow down this train?
Speaker 1: Or is it just impossible? No? No, okay, well then
Speaker 1: you have any other question in sports and weather exactly?
Speaker 2: No, what about the Chinese.
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