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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the Broncos podcast, networking and

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Speaker 1: YouTube for the latest episode of Broncos Now As Alway

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Speaker 1: From Your host is Sidney Jones, and coming up on

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Speaker 1: today's episode, we'll hear from head coach Sean Payton, quarterback

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, in safety Justin Simmons.

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Speaker 2: Plus we'll take a look at today's injury report. All

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Speaker 2: that more coming up Broncos.

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Speaker 1: We're back on the practice field today as they've shifted

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Speaker 1: their focus to host the Kansas City chiefs Adam Powerfield

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Speaker 1: at Mile High this Sunday. This will be the second

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Speaker 1: time these two teams meet in the past three weeks,

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Speaker 1: and head coach Sean Payton was asked whether or not

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Speaker 1: he likes the schedule.

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Speaker 3: I don't really think about it. It kind of files

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Speaker 3: into that category of, you know, focused on the stuff

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Speaker 3: there's things I look at, you know, away games, time

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Speaker 3: how many times but not much.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback Russell Wilson was also asked about.

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Speaker 1: It, and he talked about the challenge of playing the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, their defense is playing really good football. I mean

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Speaker 4: They do a lot of great things. Their coach extremely well.

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Speaker 4: us is staying on schedule, you know, keeping making it,

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Speaker 5: I always look at it from a from an overall

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Speaker 5: but I do. That's that is how I view it.

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Speaker 5: You know, offense goes down and score, we make it

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Speaker 1: Brothers of Laws sixteen straight games to the Chiefs, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it matters, and it matters. It matters to go

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's frustrating, but it's a new team,

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Speaker 4: Number One, you got to have great practice habits.

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Speaker 4: I think we have great practice habits. That's the first thing.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time to take a look at today's injury report.

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Speaker 1: Running Back Dwayne Washington did not participate in today's practice.

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Speaker 1: Safety Justin Simmons was limited, and outside linebacker Baron Browning

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Speaker 1: was a full participant. Now joining me here inside the

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Speaker 1: Broncos podcast studio is Bronco's lead writer Eric Delalai.

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Speaker 2: Eric, thanks for joining me on the show. Yeah, Wednesday

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Speaker 2: used not your typical day. What did you do with Phil? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Eric, looking at today's news, it seems like the main

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Speaker 2: Definitely, we're going back to the offense real quick. Eric.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, I know you're tired of talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, this last bit is kind of off topic,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and not.

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Speaker 1: Something the average fan really thinks about either. No, in

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Speaker 6: Right, I think again, you think about it in those

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Speaker 2: Well, Eric, appreciate you joining the show today on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 6: But I'll be sad and alone on Friday.

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Speaker 1: We won't have you on the show on Friday to

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Speaker 1: talk to Phil. Well, appreciate you coming on. You got it, Well,

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: I'll meet you right back here on the Broncos podcast

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow for another episode. I'll see you all then,