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Speaker 2: How are your brackets? Yes, you can ask that in public.
Speaker 2: Nice brackets. It's hour two on the program. Paul, he's
Speaker 2: out today, Dylan's in his chair. It's a meat Friday.
Speaker 2: We have general sALS, chicken, beef and broccoli, pork, fried rice,
Speaker 2: beef low maine. Who has it better than we do? No,
Speaker 2: especially Fritzie. This is a dream menu.
Speaker 3: The Chinese food.
Speaker 2: Let's go. At the end of this hour, it'll be
Speaker 2: rhyme time. Do you want to give the audience just
Speaker 2: a sample so they can look forward to this and
Speaker 2: you know, plan their morning accordingly. We can totally do that, Okay.
Speaker 2: Do you have one? Yeah? I do?
Speaker 3: Okay, how about raftery foot deformities. Raftery foot deformities.
Speaker 2: Bill, What is raftery like to say?
Speaker 4: Onions?
Speaker 3: And what would be a foot deformative onions, onions, bunyons.
Speaker 3: That's how the game works, deformatives onions, bunyans.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's more of that. More of that Radio Gold
Speaker 2: coming up a little bit later on this hour. All right,
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Speaker 2: action that took place yesterday and last night, also later
Speaker 2: on today and tonight a full slate of basketball. And
Speaker 2: I said, I would be fine if the NCAA selection
Speaker 2: committee had a sense of humor where you are setting
Speaker 2: up certain matchups. And I singled out if Arkansas beat
Speaker 2: Kansas and Saint John's was going to be their next opponent,
Speaker 2: they had omaha, they would meet in the next round,
Speaker 2: So you would have John Caliperry and Rick Pattino, no
Speaker 2: love lost between those two coaches. Well, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: And I go back to and people have criticized that
Speaker 2: opinion by saying, you know, there's integrity attached to this.
Speaker 2: There is, or supposed to be. But it's entertainment. This
Speaker 2: is a TV show. We say it all the time.
Speaker 2: It's a TV show. And you can get these matchups.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you. Now you might say, are they manipulating
Speaker 2: the seating? Maybe, but you're gonna have Arkansas play Rick
Speaker 2: Bettino and Saint John's And I think that's good for
Speaker 2: TV and good for the tournament seaton. What's pole question
Speaker 2: for hour two? Let's recap hour one as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, our one we had up there, coolest college basketball
Speaker 5: team ever right now, Michigan's Fab five is about forty
Speaker 5: percent of the vote, followed by thirty three percent with UNLV.
Speaker 5: That nineties UNLV run Ficelamajama doing respectfully, and nobody have
Speaker 5: much love for you in Georgetown, which is disappointing.
Speaker 2: Well, they were. It was Hoya Paranoia, which was a
Speaker 2: great nickname as well. I'm shocked that people haven't given
Speaker 2: them more love because that was one of those you're
Speaker 2: buying gear for a school you didn't go to, and
Speaker 2: I just don't remember anybody else doing that before. You
Speaker 2: would see that all over the country. You would have,
Speaker 2: you know, guys who would have Georgetown gear on. I
Speaker 2: don't remember that being the case with UNLV, although the
Speaker 2: Running Rebels were an interesting team. FI slam a Jama
Speaker 2: as well. It felt like when it came to merchandise,
Speaker 2: Georgetown was ahead of the game with everybody else. The
Speaker 2: Fab five they became, you know, a cultural phenomenon as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, seen it was specifically too, at least for me,
Speaker 5: like the Starter brand right and Starter jackets. Everybody had
Speaker 5: a Starter jacket I had in Miami one I thought
Speaker 5: it was awesome. A lot of Notre Dame, a ton
Speaker 5: of Georgetown jackets.
Speaker 2: It really was.
Speaker 5: There's something about that specific jacket that really caught up.
Speaker 2: Is the Starter jacket still available? Are they still doing
Speaker 2: this for schools?
Speaker 6: Maartn So they just re released a bunch of biggie
Speaker 6: Starter jackets. I think Carl Banks run Starter now, the
Speaker 6: former New York Giants linebacker. And so Providence got one,
Speaker 6: Yukon's got one. Seaton Hall, they just did a whole
Speaker 6: thing in New York City, I believe.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Starter is back, Yeah, but I just remember Georgetown.
Speaker 2: That was a that was a cultural that that was
Speaker 2: something that was nationwide, and that's I think really the
Speaker 2: test of it is, are there kids in other cities,
Speaker 2: other states who are wearing your gear? H felt like
Speaker 2: the Raiders were out in front of a lot of people,
Speaker 2: you know, the cowboys were you know, you were getting
Speaker 2: gear for Christmas, whether no matter where you lived, you
Speaker 2: were like, no, I want Cowboy gear, Steeler gear, Packer gear,
Speaker 2: Niner gear. And then it felt like Georgetown was the
Speaker 2: first to capitalize on that. Chris Weber will join us
Speaker 2: coming up a little bit in the Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: and one of the members of the Fab five, and
Speaker 2: Paul Skien's the Pirates pitcher, the nationally Rookie of the
Speaker 2: Year will stop by Yes, Marvin Oh No, Chris Webber
Speaker 2: first team all in al you think so.
Speaker 6: Nike owes him some money, Starter owes him some money.
Speaker 2: Everybody on the Fab five true as a collective, Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: Can they get any money back? Can they? I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're asking for that. It felt like there's
Speaker 2: a there's like a window of opportunity for former athletes
Speaker 2: to ask for money that maybe the school made off
Speaker 2: of them or a sponsor made off of them. I
Speaker 2: don't know if the Michigan players have said, you know that.
Speaker 2: We've had Jalen Rose on and he's talked about how
Speaker 2: much money they made for Michigan and Nike and once
Speaker 2: a piece of that wonder with that number is yeah, Mark, they.
Speaker 6: Should get a piece of every single pair of black
Speaker 6: Nike socks that are sold at Nike because I was
Speaker 6: wearing Church socks to my fifth grade rec league game
Speaker 6: because they didn't have black socks like black athletic socks.
Speaker 2: Okay, but hold on here, Michael Jordan's the reason why
Speaker 2: the Fab five gets a lot of credit for wearing
Speaker 2: baggy shorts. Jordan did that. They also had black shoes.
Speaker 2: They had black socks. Jordan did that. They didn't create this.
Speaker 2: Jordan did black socks. Yes, we may have a disagreement
Speaker 2: right here. Wait, Jordan never wore black socks.
Speaker 6: I think he wore them later. But black socks and
Speaker 6: black shoes, I think in the Fat five documentary, Chris
Speaker 6: Weber and Jailer was like, they talk about we want
Speaker 6: shorts like Michael Jordan, but baggyar So they give Michael
Speaker 6: Jordan credit on the long shorts.
Speaker 2: Baggy shorts were terrible, like the long ones, they looked stupid.
Speaker 5: Well, they got they got to a point. The Fab
Speaker 5: five era of baggy shorts was fine. It got to
Speaker 5: a whole other like the Mike Bibby era of basketball
Speaker 5: where they the shorts went down to your ankles.
Speaker 2: That was crazy. I don't know why Mike.
Speaker 5: I think Mike Bibby was in that timeframe, but there
Speaker 5: was a point in time where it was stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when it went over your knees and they were
Speaker 2: like capri pants, you know, that was terrible.
Speaker 7: Yes, Dylan, there's that like iconic picture of the guy
Speaker 7: on Saint Bonaventure, I think Marcus Green where they're actually
Speaker 7: touching his shoes almost. They're like, you know, like Dicky's,
Speaker 7: like the oversized Dickies shorts.
Speaker 2: They're literally longer than those. It's terrible. It was terrible.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I had to wear the short shorts when I was playing,
Speaker 2: not like ewing short shorts, but still I had. You know,
Speaker 2: we had some short shorts, and I didn't mind it
Speaker 2: because you know, the ladies probably came out for that,
Speaker 2: didn't they. No, they did not. No, I weighed one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty eight pounds when I was six y three.
Speaker 2: You didn't want to see that, Not that you want
Speaker 2: to see it now, but you didn't want to see
Speaker 2: it back then. Nobody wanted to see it back then.
Speaker 2: All right, So the pole question for hour two is
Speaker 2: going to be watched Seeden. Yeah, we're putting up there
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 5: You root for upsets all the time, the top teams
Speaker 5: to make the final four, or your bracket. Paul sent
Speaker 5: that one in from the road as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, okay, yeah, I don't care about my brackets. I
Speaker 2: just want to see entertainment. I think that's, you know,
Speaker 2: the fun part. I just got a response. I was curious.
Speaker 2: We had a caller who said, why is Michigan State
Speaker 2: playing a late game tonight? Late on the coast seating
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with game times in their tournament.
Speaker 2: Game times, which are proposed by CBS and Turner then
Speaker 2: approved by the NCAA, depend on the game time site.
Speaker 2: Western sites typically will start later the geographic home of
Speaker 2: the teams playing on each day, So hopefully that helps
Speaker 2: you understand maybe why Michigan State's going to be playing
Speaker 2: at ten o'clock East Coast time tonight. Todd already has
Speaker 2: his limerick. We had somebody who's getting married, I think
Speaker 2: sometime this afternoon, and he wanted to know if he
Speaker 2: could drop in a reference here. Let's see, he's a
Speaker 2: see a Packer fan, his wife's a Viking fan or
Speaker 2: vice versa. But he is getting married and want to
Speaker 2: know if Fritzy could help out with that. So Todd
Speaker 2: has left the room.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's on the phone working out a guest situation.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, he's all business, that guy. Well, he has
Speaker 2: to be with Paul not here today.
Speaker 5: You know it's possible, given how much he's been talking
Speaker 5: about it too, and how much work he's put in
Speaker 5: behind the scenes. That might be about the Chinese food
Speaker 5: order as well. It might have nothing to do with
Speaker 5: the guests.
Speaker 2: Oh oh okay. Tonight, Oregon and Arizona, two top Western teams,
Speaker 2: had the final slots in Seattle and the late time finishes.
Speaker 2: Kentucky and Florida play in the early evening slot. Michigan
Speaker 2: State and Yukon headline the late evening slot. Not always
Speaker 2: easy to figure. There's a lot of data that goes
Speaker 2: into it. It's also why game times for the second
Speaker 2: round are dependent on most or all of the outcomes
Speaker 2: from the first round. No, if that helps you behind
Speaker 2: the scenes with some of this information, I'm sure tom
Speaker 2: Izzo does it like this where you're asking your team,
Speaker 2: you know you want to stay in a routine. Now
Speaker 2: you're going to play three hours later than what you
Speaker 2: normally play on the West Coast. I also saw this
Speaker 2: story about Dion Sanders on the Big twelve media day
Speaker 2: and he was asked about Shador Sanders and the coach
Speaker 2: who reportedly a quarterbacks coach who called out his son,
Speaker 2: called him brash and arrogant, and Dion says that he
Speaker 2: knows who this coach is, but he said, don't make
Speaker 2: me pull behind the curtain. He says, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: do my best to keep it on the high road,
Speaker 2: but I don't know the address. Josina Anderson NFL Insider
Speaker 2: reported back on March third that the negative comments about
Speaker 2: Dion Sun had been made by a QB coach from
Speaker 2: a team with a top seven draft pick. So that
Speaker 2: means the Titans, Browns, Giants, Patriots, Jags, Raiders, and Jets.
Speaker 2: They all hold top seven picks. According to Josina Anderson,
Speaker 2: the coach made his assessment known to a number of people,
Speaker 2: and the coach seemed to have an issue with the
Speaker 2: culture of athletes who have broad fame and financial success
Speaker 2: before coming into the draft. So Dion knows who the
Speaker 2: coach is, and I'm going to guess we'll make sure
Speaker 2: that his son doesn't go there. But if the quarterback
Speaker 2: coach thinks you're brash and arrogant, they're probably not going
Speaker 2: to take you. And Dion originally responded to reports that
Speaker 2: he shared quotes from other people here. Matthew Berry of
Speaker 2: NBC Sports reported that two people on separate teams who
Speaker 2: had both met with Shardor Sanders during the combine, said
Speaker 2: the quarterback came off as unprofessional and disinterested. But then
Speaker 2: you have somebody else who says Shudor Sanders came off
Speaker 2: as confident and engaging. I just think this comes down
Speaker 2: to Shador Sanders probably went in to do the interview.
Speaker 2: I have to do the interview. I'm not interested in
Speaker 2: the interview. I'm not interested in this team, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to show up and maybe that's the fallout from this.
Speaker 2: But if you don't like him, I'm just surprised that
Speaker 2: anybody would say anything after the fact that it just
Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, that kid was arrogant and brash, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let some people know about that instead of
Speaker 2: just saying, you know, internally, we're not interested in him.
Speaker 5: Yes, isn't that kind of what this time of year
Speaker 5: is though? Yes, anonymous sources talking trash about sometimes one
Speaker 5: specific person, sometimes a bunch.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. Yeah, it's unfortunate though, because I mean,
Speaker 2: I wish Dion would just call him out. If you're
Speaker 2: gonna whisper, now Dion's whispering, you guys, just say you
Speaker 2: know what, I'll put my name behind it because it
Speaker 2: feels like you wanted this to inflict some damage on
Speaker 2: Shudor Sanders and Dion's not taking it, not going to
Speaker 2: stand for it. Dave and Ohio, Hi Dave, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 8: Hey morning, DP, Happy Friday, and I'm so happy Fritzy's back.
Speaker 8: So I could say this five to nine and ozepek
Speaker 8: free horned sixty five. Okay, I just wanted to as
Speaker 8: a tooth head stuck in bucket land here, I just
Speaker 8: want to get props to the Badgers and great Guard
Speaker 8: who lost their two best players to Kansas and Louisville
Speaker 8: but got John Todd Jay and along with all those
Speaker 8: great six year seniors are still playing.
Speaker 2: Well. Congratulations. Wisconsin's a fun team. This is a different
Speaker 2: kind of Wisconsin team than we're used to seeing. Todd,
Speaker 2: you have your limerick for the guy who's getting married
Speaker 2: in a few hours, All right, well, why why don't
Speaker 2: you give it to him so he can put it
Speaker 2: down in writing for his vowels. And this is Todd's
Speaker 2: limerick for Andrew in Missouri who's getting married in a
Speaker 2: couple hours and going to use this during his vowels.
Speaker 3: So beautiful and purple cut her slack, but marrying a
Speaker 3: Vikings fan is whack. She really starts my motor while
Speaker 3: she pulls for Minnesota. I love you so much, but go.
Speaker 2: Pack, so you rhymed motor with Minnesota Minnesota.
Speaker 3: She really starts my motor while she pulls for Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I love you so much, but go pack.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, and we'll see if Andrew wants
Speaker 2: to use that in his wedding vows. Later on today
Speaker 2: we'll take a break. See Webb Hall of Famer will
Speaker 2: join us. We're back after this and the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: Zach and Knoxville joins us. Now, Hi, Zach, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 10: ADP, thanks for taking my call. I wanted to get
Speaker 10: back on track with what callers should be doing and
Speaker 10: not singing and suggesting nicknames and possible t shirt ideas.
Speaker 10: Dylan Dylan has a very Stephen Wright delivery, so maybe
Speaker 10: we could call him the guy in the back instead
Speaker 10: of the guy on the couch and have a little
Speaker 10: T shirt idea with that, and you know, you walk by,
Speaker 10: you have a nice three team parlay and you're like, hey,
Speaker 10: guy in the back, what do you think of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I don't know if you want Dylan's gambling advice.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to put that out there, Zach. He's
Speaker 2: entertaining when he gives you his gambling advice. He's just
Speaker 2: not very good.
Speaker 7: Dylan would love to not have Dylan's gambling Okay, yesterday,
Speaker 7: Yesterday was a rough day, Dan.
Speaker 2: I'm sure today is going to be a rough day
Speaker 2: as well. And I've had friends who say, is Dylan
Speaker 2: trying to be bad at picking games? And they said, no,
Speaker 2: you do give it great thought.
Speaker 7: I do, and then sometimes I get my wires crossed
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, I'm like, that's a lot
Speaker 7: of red.
Speaker 2: He's Chris Webber, Hall of Famer, five time All Star,
Speaker 2: former number one overall picked by the Magic back in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three. See Webb joining us who came up
Speaker 2: with the idea for the Black Socks with Michigan. Do
Speaker 2: you remember I do?
Speaker 4: I do? Ray Jackson?
Speaker 11: I had to interview him for my book, Shameless Plug,
Speaker 11: but I had forgotten. So we were playing in Texas.
Speaker 11: We're playing against Rice University, and you know then when
Speaker 11: you play with your teammates, whenever you have a teammate
Speaker 11: that's from somewhere, when you go to their home, you
Speaker 11: want to show out. And so we knew we were
Speaker 11: going to want to play well for Ray and Jimmy.
Speaker 11: And Ray though he wanted to transfer, and Ray had
Speaker 11: been talking about transferring to me for the whole summer.
Speaker 4: For the whole year.
Speaker 11: He felt that he was kind of left out that
Speaker 11: he was escapego the coach. He was kind of tired
Speaker 11: of coach staying on him for a long time. So
Speaker 11: he and his friends decided to go to the mall.
Speaker 11: He bought a few different colored pair of socks and
Speaker 11: he was gonna wear them in protest. But he comes
Speaker 11: to the room, and you know how it is with
Speaker 11: your friends. He comes to the room, I'm sleep. He
Speaker 11: comes back at Jawana's like what is this?
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 11: We're gonna wear those black socks. And Jalen's like, oh,
Speaker 11: let's go to the mall. So Jaylen, Jimmy they ran
Speaker 11: to the mall, brought me a pair of black socks,
Speaker 11: and so raised frustration and protests turned into brothers saying, man's.
Speaker 4: Shut up, we love you. We're all gonna wear the
Speaker 4: black socks.
Speaker 11: And that's a whole nother story because we get in
Speaker 11: trouble for wearing the black socks for not including the
Speaker 11: rest of our teammates. So we have the black socks on,
Speaker 11: we're excited. We have our sweatpants on. We usually don't
Speaker 11: warm up with our sweatpants and warm ups, you know,
Speaker 11: usually take them off in the shorts. We kept them
Speaker 11: on and we all get in the starter circle and
Speaker 11: coaches looking like what the hell you know, because it
Speaker 11: was pretty obvious then. And then after the game coach
Speaker 11: was fine, we went it. But after the game he
Speaker 11: called me to the side and said, come on, man,
Speaker 11: you know I was old. I'm the oldest of five kids.
Speaker 11: And he was like, would you do that with with
Speaker 11: you know, family members. He's like, no, we don't do
Speaker 11: that here. Everybody has to wear black sox. So he
Speaker 11: didn't understand how excited we were that really what he
Speaker 11: was telling us is, yeah, y'all can wear them, but
Speaker 11: everyone can wear them. But Ray Jackson was the Ray
Speaker 11: Jackson was the start of that. He picked those socks.
Speaker 2: What about the baggy shorts. I know Jordan wore baggy shorts,
Speaker 2: but you guys went bagg hear.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know it was Illinois and UNLB have really
Speaker 11: nice shorts Syracuse. You know, all the guys like Derrick
Speaker 11: Coleman or Anderson Hunt. They would bring us their shorts
Speaker 11: in the summer and give us a pair of shorts.
Speaker 11: That was like gifting the guy a car to wear
Speaker 11: some official, you know shorts.
Speaker 4: Back then there was no.
Speaker 11: Fanatics and you know, no prammatic puss. You could just
Speaker 11: give them things like that. And so really what it
Speaker 11: was fun story. The day we get to get our uniforms,
Speaker 11: we're all super excited. You know, that's a moment we
Speaker 11: get to look at your uniform put it on. But
Speaker 11: thanks to Chip Armor and Eric Riley and all of
Speaker 11: the old heads, because they wanted just regular shorts and
Speaker 11: we were searching for that extra two inches in the
Speaker 11: cross in the scene. So we were able to trade
Speaker 11: with upper classmen who didn't get it yet. And then
Speaker 11: Coach eventually he and coach Dutcher of San Diego State.
Speaker 11: Now he'll coach Dutcher eventually ordered us some longer shorts.
Speaker 11: So we were just complaining the whole time about you know,
Speaker 11: our shorts, you know the term. Then we didn't want
Speaker 11: Stockton's and we didn't want to get catch a yeast infection.
Speaker 11: That practice from a teammate to tight draws on. So
Speaker 11: you know, Coach he was cool. We had some tough
Speaker 11: practices for it. That's how we got to earn black
Speaker 11: socks and everything. You have to have tough practices, but
Speaker 11: we earned it. And Als well, we.
Speaker 2: Were talking about the great nickname she had fab five
Speaker 2: Fi Slama Jam and was great Hooya paranoia. Don't know
Speaker 2: if there's a Running Rebels. Don't know if there are
Speaker 2: any other team nickname that kind of belongs to that group.
Speaker 4: Man, that's good.
Speaker 11: I wish I had a time to think about that one,
Speaker 11: because that's gonna be on my mind. I really loved
Speaker 11: the Running Rebels. I mean to me, it said at all.
Speaker 11: Even they're Moniker with kind of the Yosemite Sam type character.
Speaker 11: You know, I'm in I think them in Oklahoma got
Speaker 11: to carry a gun around then at those times. But yeah,
Speaker 11: I don't you know, I've always said the greatest personal
Speaker 11: nickname to me is the great one and and then
Speaker 11: you can go from there. But for the teams, I
Speaker 11: think it have to be maybe running rebels.
Speaker 4: Back there?
Speaker 2: Were you aware of Georgetown with you wing?
Speaker 4: Are you serious? Yes?
Speaker 11: Back home, man, I'm a Jew, I'm a big sports fan,
Speaker 11: so yeah, and you gotta remember this well was really
Speaker 11: smart and then talking to Sonny but Carol for my book,
Speaker 11: he was a really good guy.
Speaker 4: But they u into our minds early.
Speaker 11: So when you talk about Georgetown, yes, do I love
Speaker 11: John Thompson, Yes? Do I love Zoe and all the
Speaker 11: big fellas they had Ewing and Man Tumble, Yes, But
Speaker 11: what really started my love for them was the blue
Speaker 11: and Great Nikes. It was the blue and gray Starter jacket.
Speaker 11: And I don't think then really people remember what an
Speaker 11: influenced Starter had in our kind of in our life
Speaker 11: because you kind of got to be a pro before
Speaker 11: you were a pro and wear what you wanted to
Speaker 11: wear them. So yeah, for me it was it was
Speaker 11: a really good time of fashion and where we won,
Speaker 11: but it all started with which you could wear on
Speaker 11: the street. And that's why I really loved Georgetown because
Speaker 11: of how cool they were even before I got to
Speaker 11: see them on the floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What I was meaning is growing up, you know,
Speaker 2: because Ewing and Hoy you know, Hoya Paranoia was in
Speaker 2: the eighties. And I'm just curious if you were old
Speaker 2: enough to get gear, if you wanted to get gear
Speaker 2: from Georgetown or there was some other school, because I
Speaker 2: think he looked at Duke, didn't you If you didn't
Speaker 2: go to Michigan, it was either Michigan State or Duke.
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, and so Patrick you and is a little
Speaker 11: older than me, and I didn't get Georgetown gear, but
Speaker 11: you would always see all the cool guys in the
Speaker 11: neighborhood wearing it. I remember his interview with my father,
Speaker 11: you know, telling me where Patrick Geary was from. And
Speaker 11: I remember my mother telling me how smart you had
Speaker 11: to be to go at Georgetown. So I really remember
Speaker 11: those conversations more so than watching Pat play. But coach
Speaker 11: Carrill rest in Peace, who was a close close mentor
Speaker 11: in mine when I got into pros, I heard so
Speaker 11: many great stories about that Princeton Georgetown game, but those
Speaker 11: were much later, So no, I didn't really get to
Speaker 11: see that because I was going to Duke. I was
Speaker 11: going to Michigan State to be like Steve Smith. Going
Speaker 11: to Duke to play with Grant Hill, or you know,
Speaker 11: luckily went to Michigan to play with Juwan Jay Lauren Jim.
Speaker 2: The toughest guy you ever faced in college.
Speaker 11: Christian Ladner is the best, one of the best college
Speaker 11: players of all time. I think of great college players,
Speaker 11: I think of Kareem Walton. Of course, there are a
Speaker 11: lot of brothers that are mixed in that have one
Speaker 11: or two great years, but uh, it was it was
Speaker 11: by far, by far Christian Layner for me, because sorry
Speaker 11: Christian Layner, and big Dug Robinson, because those two Glenn Robinson,
Speaker 11: those two were the first big guys that could put
Speaker 11: it on the floor, that could dribble, that could pump fake,
Speaker 11: that could get you in foul trouble, that played outside
Speaker 11: the game. You know, when you look at the evolution
Speaker 11: of the game, we grew up when big guys weren't
Speaker 11: supposed to handle it, and so Laytoner being able to
Speaker 11: shoot three's laton being able to just do all the
Speaker 11: stuff that he did from a freshman all the way
Speaker 11: to a senior, I would definitely say, in my time,
Speaker 11: I think he was the toughest for me to play for,
Speaker 11: play against.
Speaker 2: Do you ever have a conversation with him about that
Speaker 2: rivalry and you guys played against each other.
Speaker 11: No, no, no, but it's it's it's Overduke. It's it's
Speaker 11: long overdue. We should have a beer over it, because
Speaker 11: I think I told you this before. My best one
Speaker 11: of my best college visits, if I had, you know,
Speaker 11: eight or nine of them, was definitely at Duke and
Speaker 11: Uh and late there was my host, so I was
Speaker 11: very familiar with him when we played. That's why we
Speaker 11: talked so much junk to each other.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 11: And you know he knew my admiration. But the more
Speaker 11: admiration I have for you, the more to try to
Speaker 11: kill you anyway. And I think that's the same with him.
Speaker 11: But now we haven't talked about it, but you know,
Speaker 11: it'd be fun, fun, fun to talk about it.
Speaker 2: It would be it would be a fun podcast where
Speaker 2: it's just you two talking about that time. Because you
Speaker 2: had Duke the establishment, you guys, you know, freshmen and
Speaker 2: uh going toe to toe with them. Well, you probably
Speaker 2: had people who liked you because they hate hated Duke
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 4: They did.
Speaker 11: And also I had people that were mad at me
Speaker 11: because I didn't hate Duke. I mean, I I hate
Speaker 11: him because I wanted to beat him, but all of
Speaker 11: the other talk and this that I didn't get into
Speaker 11: it because I hated him enough just from basketball and
Speaker 11: I went to visit there and I wanted to be
Speaker 11: part of, you know, of that team. But you know,
Speaker 11: Coach K is such a special guy. And you know,
Speaker 11: when I think about and again keep saying in the
Speaker 11: book By Guy's Grace, when I think about Coach K
Speaker 11: coming to my house and recruiting me, he was in
Speaker 11: enemy territory. Actually, my friends were screaming one O three
Speaker 11: seventy three.
Speaker 4: One O three seventy three.
Speaker 11: That was the score that they lost against UNLV, And
Speaker 11: people are outside chatting as while he's walking in my
Speaker 11: house and all he does is turn around on the
Speaker 11: court and of justice ring.
Speaker 4: And everybody's like, So, when I saw Coach K's toughness.
Speaker 11: You know, in the hood, and how he was and
Speaker 11: you know, respectful comparis and all that, he's always been
Speaker 11: one of my favorite coaches in the game as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, your boys are outside Coach K's
Speaker 2: walking into your house and they're mocking him of getting
Speaker 2: blown out by thirty by UNLV.
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, I actually got to send this to you
Speaker 11: because I interviewed my guys on the porch that he
Speaker 11: walked in and they were saying it because my father
Speaker 11: was like, don't tell anybody, you know, Coach K's coming,
Speaker 11: and so the whole neighborhood, dude, And so he gets
Speaker 11: out the car and they are just booming. But when
Speaker 11: he walked back out, people are like, yeah, coach, you know,
Speaker 11: you know, good job. So he earned our respect. But yeah,
Speaker 11: coach Coach K was tough. It's not just it's not
Speaker 11: just an act. You know, he's a he's a good guy,
Speaker 11: in touch at heart, and so he's always had my respect.
Speaker 11: He it is oll remind me a lot of each
Speaker 11: other too, and I consider Coach is a very close friend.
Speaker 2: Chris Weber, the Hall of Famer member of the Fab five,
Speaker 2: more concerned about transfer Portal or ni L in the
Speaker 2: future for the sport.
Speaker 11: Can you separate them? Can there be one out the other?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm you know, I'm very happy that.
Speaker 11: You know, anytime you're in the beginning of the new system,
Speaker 11: it's gonna be terrible.
Speaker 4: The're gonna have to figure it out.
Speaker 11: So I can't wait until the playing field levels and
Speaker 11: we figure it out. But I think coaches are getting
Speaker 11: a taste of their medicine. You want to leave your
Speaker 11: guys and coach and leave, well, some guys are gonna
Speaker 11: leave you mentally late in the season when you decide that.
Speaker 11: But also I hope that players start to understand that
Speaker 11: the same love and passion should be there, but even
Speaker 11: more than ever. You made a commitment now, and I've
Speaker 11: talked to a lot of young players and I don't know,
Speaker 11: I talked to a lot of young players, and we
Speaker 11: are working through understanding that you're getting paid for this
Speaker 11: commitment now.
Speaker 4: So you have no excuse.
Speaker 11: But you still need to come with the same energy
Speaker 11: and inno sense of passion that you would have played with.
Speaker 4: And how do you figure that out? I think some
Speaker 4: guys are figuring out.
Speaker 11: I also think some players are looking mid season saying, well,
Speaker 11: I'm averaging eight, I can go average ten here next
Speaker 11: year here in a crazy, unsubstantiated situation, and then they
Speaker 11: go into the transfer Portlando one picks them up, So
Speaker 11: you know it's a it's a.
Speaker 4: It's a difficult time right now.
Speaker 11: And I think everyone from coaches players are all kind
Speaker 11: of getting used to seeing like how is this gonna
Speaker 11: gonna level out? But that needs to be more discussion
Speaker 11: and hopefully more leveling of the playing field so everyone
Speaker 11: can get comfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering about that that if you get money
Speaker 2: when you're in college, does that help you when you
Speaker 2: go to the pros and get money because a lot
Speaker 2: of times you go into the pros and you go
Speaker 2: crazy because you haven't had this kind of money and
Speaker 2: you buy stupid things. Did you do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Every every every everybody, everybody, Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody's done that.
Speaker 11: And I thought it was sports until I talked to
Speaker 11: a lot of my friends in VC and others and
Speaker 11: I found out it's all people that do that. But
Speaker 11: I definitely, uh, you know, it was one of those guys.
Speaker 11: But you're going to do that, I think too with guys.
Speaker 11: Let's take a guy like the Big Fella from Kansas Fixer.
Speaker 11: He was he was at Michigan and I say this,
Speaker 11: it was he's a really good guy and he plays
Speaker 11: with passion. He's so hard he wanted to stay at
Speaker 11: Michigan and he's going, I'm not playing pro now. I
Speaker 11: think he's a pro. So I'm not having that conversation
Speaker 11: he's a pro. He's a posy pro. But that was
Speaker 11: the conversation, and the conversation asked to me, who was
Speaker 11: someone had never been in that position, What would you do?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 11: Because my thing was, you can stay here for legacy.
Speaker 11: You've been in Michigan four years and having records and numbers.
Speaker 11: Do you you know what that's like when you get
Speaker 11: older to be able to come back to Michigan and say,
Speaker 11: now you're a part of it.
Speaker 4: This is a wonderful university. And I think that.
Speaker 11: I think that that factor has been taking out of
Speaker 11: the decision making because guys are saying, you know what,
Speaker 11: I might not make the pose, I might not have
Speaker 11: the luxury of getting a paycheck and buying something stupid.
Speaker 11: I need to make as much as I can now
Speaker 11: prepare for a professional career overseas or in coaching. So
Speaker 11: I think guys are battling with a lot of different
Speaker 11: decisions that really are they're struggling with that they don't
Speaker 11: want to have. I was talking with Deon Sanders for
Speaker 11: a show I'm doing, and he was telling me that
Speaker 11: the parents were more of a problem with the portal
Speaker 11: and with NIL than the students because the students haven't
Speaker 11: lived life enough to kind of uh be that greedy
Speaker 11: yet or order order to uh just not put team first.
Speaker 11: And so again, I think it's a lot of different situations.
Speaker 11: You know, guys are getting taxed off the ni L
Speaker 11: and didn't know they were getting taxed, and parents for you.
Speaker 11: So it's it's just so much going on that that
Speaker 11: that hopefully again the dust yourselves.
Speaker 2: What's the craziest thing that you spent money on early?
Speaker 4: I mean, I've.
Speaker 11: You know, I was smarting the beginning because I wanted
Speaker 11: to get my parents everything so and I had a
Speaker 11: big family. But for me, I mean, you know, the
Speaker 11: day you know, I got drafted, it was I have
Speaker 11: a chapter in my book called Gators for Everybody. So gators,
Speaker 11: you know, are a shoe. Now I look at this
Speaker 11: so damn stupid, but gators are a shoe. And back
Speaker 11: then it was big block gators and you know from
Speaker 11: guys in the hood, the preachers, anybody had gators.
Speaker 4: And so what did I do.
Speaker 11: I went and bought gators for everyone in my neighborhood.
Speaker 11: I mean, even if they didn't have a suit, Hey,
Speaker 11: why don't you have some gators and take this? So
Speaker 11: you know, oh man, I took friends to restaurants, you
Speaker 11: know that we had never been to. So I got
Speaker 11: a little across the street from me, Bookie rest in Peace. Uh,
Speaker 11: just stupid stuff. You go to restaurants, you pork and
Speaker 11: cockch and the hot sauce, and you say that guy here,
Speaker 11: I'll give you five thousand dollars if you eat it,
Speaker 11: and you're happy because you were gonna give them something anyway.
Speaker 11: But you know your friends, you have to bust them up.
Speaker 11: And so you know, I've done a lot more worse things,
Speaker 11: I'm sure, and other areas of life.
Speaker 4: But I remember when I first got it was that.
Speaker 11: Oh one of the one of the most fun things
Speaker 11: I did the probably was stupid.
Speaker 4: I went to a music place.
Speaker 11: I had a truck of white suburban when they first
Speaker 11: came out, and I asked him to give me the
Speaker 11: loudest sounds in the world, and the guy laughed, and
Speaker 11: I immediately walked out and went down the street and
Speaker 11: asked the guy for the loudest sounds.
Speaker 4: In the world.
Speaker 11: He was like, I could do that, and so I
Speaker 11: took out every seat besides the front two seats.
Speaker 4: I had sixteen twelve fourteen age.
Speaker 11: I'm crazy, And I used to just love driving down
Speaker 11: the street making alarms go off, or breaking my window
Speaker 11: in the back, and so I think that's pretty stupid to,
Speaker 11: you know, put you know, fifty thousand dollars forty thousand
Speaker 11: dollars worth of sounds in your truck and only one
Speaker 11: person could fit in and you can't even put your luggagembler.
Speaker 4: It was a good time. So it was a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's your dad who worked factory for all
Speaker 2: of those years. Did he ever say what are you doing?
Speaker 11: Yeah? You know, yeah, yeah, But the story timeline keep going.
Speaker 11: I know, sure, I don't want to keep going.
Speaker 2: Why do you bought him a Cadillac? Right?
Speaker 4: But that was the best thing.
Speaker 11: I told him Magic was coming to the house, and
Speaker 11: I went to the and he loves Magic. I went
Speaker 11: to the car dealership Cadillac, and people started cheering when
Speaker 11: I went in because they knew my father had worked
Speaker 11: for GM for you know, many many years, and I
Speaker 11: bought him a Cadillac. I had to cut the grass
Speaker 11: meticulously now, and you never got to play football on
Speaker 11: my grass or anything. I drive the car on the
Speaker 11: grass stand it. My father comes out at six and
Speaker 11: us about seven in the morning, and that was one
Speaker 11: of the more special moments of my life, getting yelled
Speaker 11: at while throwing the keys to my father while he
Speaker 11: was driving off, telling me to make sure I take
Speaker 11: care of the grass.
Speaker 4: It was a pretty cool moment.
Speaker 2: Always great. Thank you for storytelling time, Chris. We appreciate
Speaker 2: your time as always.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Dan, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: He is Chris Webber. He is a Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: and number one overall picked by the Magic back in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three. A lot of fun. I always appreciate
Speaker 2: conversations with him. Mark will take a break. More of
Speaker 2: your phone calls coming up back after this.
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Speaker 2: Paulie out Today, Dylan is in his chair. Fritzy's back.
Speaker 2: Oh do we have rhyme time coming up here? Todd?
Speaker 2: We do, okay, once again, give the audience a sample
Speaker 2: of what's in store for rhyme time.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give out two words and then the
Speaker 3: two clues basically and the two answers rhyme with one another.
Speaker 2: An example would.
Speaker 12: Be Breen, sharp tooth, Breen sharp tooth.
Speaker 2: Bangfang sang fang. That's how it works. It's a good time. Alrighty,
Speaker 2: here we go. It's rhyme time with the King of Comedy,
Speaker 2: Todd Fritz.
Speaker 3: Warrior, McDonald's dessert Warrior, McDonald's dessert, flurry curry curry flowry.
Speaker 2: Yes, very nice, thank you.
Speaker 3: Nugget car game, nugget card game, joker poker.
Speaker 2: Joker poker. Look at you. Oh my god. You know
Speaker 2: it's scary if I'm on your wavelength. So hopefully I
Speaker 2: don't get any more of these, Okay.
Speaker 3: The MVP Late Night host MVP Late Night Host sg A.
Speaker 3: Judges were looking for Alan Fallon, as in Josh Allen
Speaker 3: MVP Allen Fallon.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, MVP Late Night could be any spoil Oh okay.
Speaker 3: How about Laker criminals, Laker criminals, current Laker and another word.
Speaker 2: For criminals don chick convict.
Speaker 3: The judges were looking for.
Speaker 2: Reeves, thieves, reeves thieves.
Speaker 3: Reeves thieves would be Laker criminals, third degree hit man,
Speaker 3: third degree hitman.
Speaker 2: Burns hear burns, hearns.
Speaker 3: How about Apollo ranking, Apollo ranking, Bronco repair Bronco repair,
Speaker 3: Knicks fix a Knicks fix a Bronco repair exactly, Players
Speaker 3: Champ seven Chips, Players Champ seven chips or rings the
Speaker 3: Players Champ and seven Rings.
Speaker 2: Rory good Job, Dylan Yir, Johnny's Noir, Johnny's film.
Speaker 3: Noir, Johnny's We were looking for Pino Patino Noir, Johnny's.
Speaker 2: Film.
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, how about about damn time Spartan? About
Speaker 3: damn time Spartan?
Speaker 6: Lizzo is old school game console, Arkansas, Old school game
Speaker 6: card console, Arkansas.
Speaker 8: I love it.
Speaker 12: Crab five heartburn, Crab five heartburn. That would be turps
Speaker 12: and burps, Crab five and heartburn.
Speaker 3: The terps are called the crab five Okay, Kickley Tracy Morgan,
Speaker 3: A little mettle.
Speaker 2: Means that picture is tough, he said of his food
Speaker 2: poisoning projectile. His nose was bleeding.
Speaker 5: The best part of that, uh, there's a picture of
Speaker 5: him if we haven't seen it, of him court.
Speaker 2: Side mid vomit.
Speaker 5: The best part of that is looking at all of
Speaker 5: the people around him. There's one hundred and fifty people
Speaker 5: on them. Most of them have no idea, but the
Speaker 5: people who do are horrified.
Speaker 7: The announcers are right there, and none of them are
Speaker 7: looking at the game. They're just all looking to their left.
Speaker 2: One more mean spirited one we have.
Speaker 3: We have a couple of enemies, Anthony Davis. Enemies Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3: Another word for enemies would be.
Speaker 2: Friend or.
Speaker 10: Pose.
Speaker 2: Enemies would be foe.
Speaker 3: So what would Anthony Davis be was called something that's
Speaker 3: not very nice street street clothes would be enemies Anthony
Speaker 3: Davis pose street clothes.
Speaker 2: And we can wrap it up with Aristotle Rockstar.
Speaker 12: Aristotle rock Star.
Speaker 2: As in the song Shack Nickelback.
Speaker 3: Shack Nickelback would be Aristotle rock Star.
Speaker 2: Thank you, dear, I'm the only one applauding, apparently.
Speaker 3: Sparks Therapist to Nick one more in Sparks Therapist, Sparks
Speaker 3: the basketball team, Sparks.
Speaker 2: Therapist, Uh brink shreep. There you go. When Pirates pitcher
Speaker 2: Paul's schemes will join us, Steve Lapis, former coach, he's
Speaker 2: an analyst for March Madness, will join us in the
Speaker 2: final hour on this Meet Friday, it's Fritzie the King
Speaker 2: of Comedy Seat and Marv Dylan yours truly in the
Speaker 2: back room, guys, Final hour in this Friday, right after this,