Speaker 1: Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of iHeartRadio?
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, you guys, Happy Turkey, lurky day. Honeys. Look,
Speaker 1: we're all doing the best pocas and I can't believe
Speaker 1: we're going into the holiday season still on the beaches. Si,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. I didn't know. We've all
Speaker 1: become snowbirds.
Speaker 2: We're officially snowbirds.
Speaker 1: Look, you know what you gotta do, what you gotta do. Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do another episode of weeks Up this Rose.
Speaker 1: My name is Arto Marine, coming to you from my
Speaker 1: mom's bougie apartment in New York City. This is my
Speaker 1: last New York City one, and then we're gonna be
Speaker 1: back in person in Los Angeles, which is exciting. But
Speaker 1: it's been fun. I've made pals here, which is I've
Speaker 1: very much enjoyed. It was fun to see Margaret and
Speaker 1: Joe last week. I've so much enjoyed Seth and and
Speaker 1: Uh Jordan and and Ana and Mave and Carolina.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been really such a fun run.
Speaker 3: Here in such a hard to Did you enjoy it? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Everyone was like a pleasant surprise each time.
Speaker 1: I felt like people really came to play and I
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were like newer to the
Speaker 1: franchis Tammy, So that was just like, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: really I loved. I love. I feel like we expanded,
Speaker 1: we like got like our summer house or our East Coast,
Speaker 1: our time share. I feel like we did a really
Speaker 1: good job. Okay, hello, And so with us today, coming
Speaker 1: to us from north and south of the border, and
Speaker 1: by that I mean Canada and Los Angeles, we have
Speaker 1: with us a man that we just loved so much,
Speaker 1: and we get him when we can.
Speaker 2: He's so funny.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he's our male bachelor historian because his
Speaker 1: brain holds things that mine doesn't, but Lori's does, ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: He's a brilliant stand up.
Speaker 1: We met him. It's almost our anniversary with him. He's
Speaker 1: a brilliant stand up.
Speaker 3: My Carosa.
Speaker 1: Hi, Yeah, like you've been our friend longer.
Speaker 4: It does feel that way, it does. It feels longer
Speaker 4: than it almost a year. Hasn't even been a year.
Speaker 1: Well, you were supposed to do two years ago, and
Speaker 1: then that the second round of COVID kind of like
Speaker 1: delayed our We've been in touch, we were we we
Speaker 1: texted an email, but like, I feel like we really
Speaker 1: really you can't You're you're an important part of the
Speaker 1: podcast now.
Speaker 2: I hope you know that.
Speaker 5: That feels really nice.
Speaker 1: Okay, be your all friend on Zoom. Sometime I feel
Speaker 1: very excited. I feel like you guys are a good couple.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that.
Speaker 4: I look, I'm just gonna go ahead and say I
Speaker 4: might be a little biased, but I think we are too.
Speaker 4: She's real sweet. She's working right now. If she wasn't
Speaker 4: so busy, i'd tell her to come say hi.
Speaker 1: I need to mean Okay. Also with us is a
Speaker 1: woman I gotta say, whose hair is looking really healthy
Speaker 1: and on point. Get this woman, Get this woman a
Speaker 1: hair campaign. She's got a gorgeous pink tree in her
Speaker 1: gorgeous pink studio.
Speaker 2: With only half the lights on. But you know what
Speaker 2: more to come?
Speaker 1: You know her as I'm gonna say, a person who
Speaker 1: was who infiltrated via our earbuds, and she came, she listened,
Speaker 1: and then she climbed on into the studio and into
Speaker 1: your hearts, ladies and gentlemen, your friend, my friend waitning.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me again.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who have Who have you enjoyed the
Speaker 1: most from the New York crew?
Speaker 3: Is it Seth? He was, Oh so fantastic, upset, so cute.
Speaker 3: I like your engineer that we never hear.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know you don't have to have
Speaker 2: him record himself.
Speaker 3: I like that he does like I like the guessing
Speaker 3: what he's saying.
Speaker 6: I like that.
Speaker 1: I told doctor Shamam Shamaa that Seth beat him out,
Speaker 1: and Shamwam is competitive, and so we did. We wanted to.
Speaker 1: We were gonna try to see if we could get
Speaker 1: an advanced copy of the finale to do before we
Speaker 1: left New York, and then we realized, hey, ding dungs,
Speaker 1: it's live. You can't speed up time. All right, it's live,
Speaker 1: so you're not gonna be on that coast. You can't
Speaker 1: speed up times, so it's not gonna work. Also with
Speaker 1: us as two women who we are obsessed with the
Speaker 1: wind beneath our wings, friends of workaholics and animals alike,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Katie Levine and doctor Hannah Montana,
Speaker 1: Arianna Rosanna, Rosanna, Dana Mina, Hostia Levine. Welcome to the program,
Speaker 1: Doctor Banana and Katie, how are you doing.
Speaker 7: Hi. Sorry, I have a cough right now, So that's okay.
Speaker 7: I've been coughing all right.
Speaker 2: Are you feeling under the weather.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just mostly a cough. My throat is just like,
Speaker 7: you got enough of this travel?
Speaker 2: You're on a hundred city tour.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? I just want to say,
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, two shows. Brian, Sophie and
Speaker 1: I are doing our very first ever no Autographs please
Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles Wednesday, December sixth at the Allegian Theater.
Speaker 2: We've done a sold out run at Union Hall.
Speaker 3: In New York.
Speaker 1: It's so fun. We're gonna have Chris Fleming. If you
Speaker 1: don't know him, he does those funny videos on YouTube.
Speaker 1: He's fucking hilarious. He's he has a special that just
Speaker 1: came out on Peacock. He Mike, you know him. He's hilarious.
Speaker 5: I love him.
Speaker 4: He's one of the goofiest goofballs who's ever goofed.
Speaker 1: He's so I've never met him, and I slid into
Speaker 1: his DMS because I'm like such a fan, and he immediately.
Speaker 4: Says, somebody who loves to play, Yeah, this is gonna
Speaker 4: be the perfect guest.
Speaker 1: And then we also have Meatball, who did who is
Speaker 1: a drag perform Do you love Meatballs?
Speaker 2: Oh, Meatball is incredible.
Speaker 1: Meatball is a drag performer who did like he sort
Speaker 1: of made fun of George Santos and the George Santos
Speaker 1: got confused and like complimented it and then he was like,
Speaker 1: I was kidding.
Speaker 2: So Meatball is all.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be me, Brian Meetball, and Chris bellm
Speaker 1: if that's not a foursome. So that's that. The Allegian
Speaker 1: Theater is our only West Coast show during the holiday,
Speaker 1: so get your tickets, uh, December sixth, and then we're
Speaker 1: going to sketch Fast me Doctor Banana, Katie, Jack Keith
Speaker 1: is coming, Aaron Foley, Lorie and Doug Benson and most
Speaker 1: importantly Branden Okayden starting us. Can you even He's So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be at San Francisco's Sketch Fest January twentieth
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, come play with us. Okay, here we are,
Speaker 1: We're in Paradise.
Speaker 2: Michael and Olivia.
Speaker 1: Michael showed up and he's like Olivia, if you recall,
Speaker 1: she was with John Henry, cat Stole, John Henry and
Speaker 1: all Lo and behold, what's she gonna do? Branden saves
Speaker 1: Olivia and down walks Michael, the sea captain with the
Speaker 1: giant dipples. He flirts with everybody. Olivia is all excited.
Speaker 1: She's like, he better ask me, he better ask me.
Speaker 1: She gets asked, and then she's talking to the producers
Speaker 1: and has no memory of his name, even though she's saying,
Speaker 1: I hope we get engaged.
Speaker 2: I hope he proposes.
Speaker 1: No memory.
Speaker 2: What did you think of that?
Speaker 7: Move?
Speaker 2: My carotza?
Speaker 4: I hated it. I don't care for it. I'm sorry. Look,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna be like I think he's this, I
Speaker 4: think he's that.
Speaker 5: I want him to ask me out.
Speaker 4: I want this, I want that, And all you've got
Speaker 4: is you don't even know his name, and you're like, what,
Speaker 4: it's so loud, the waves keep crashing. It's like no,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but like, you know, it's fun to fantasize,
Speaker 4: but don't be like I could see him be my
Speaker 4: guy or whatever, being like pissed about not getting it
Speaker 4: asked out or whatever.
Speaker 5: I just think I didn't I didn't like that.
Speaker 4: But then again, I'm also apparently in the minority and
Speaker 4: thinking I don't I don't care for Olivia.
Speaker 1: I don't like okay, and how come like way.
Speaker 4: Something about like, first, okay, I don't. I'm off put
Speaker 4: by the fact that she looks very much like a
Speaker 4: child like she She's got such a child like face
Speaker 4: that I'm like, you haven't. It's kind of like a
Speaker 4: she reminds me of like my teenage cousin who I'm like,
Speaker 4: you need to.
Speaker 5: You need to grow up a little bit.
Speaker 4: Okay, But also, uh, I just there's something about like
Speaker 4: she's been vindictive. She's great TV, but I don't like her. Okay,
Speaker 4: great TV, I don't like her.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Whitney, how did you feel? I have
Speaker 1: to say this was the first time I start because
Speaker 1: I've been very pro Olivia, very much protective of her,
Speaker 1: and then and then I realized when she didn't realize
Speaker 1: Michael's name, I'm like, am I getting played by the
Speaker 1: world's best performer that's been on here? Because I'm sincerely
Speaker 1: rooting for her every time, I actually feel like she
Speaker 1: really likes somebody, even though she did come in hot
Speaker 1: with the toa sucking with poor Will who went banana pants.
Speaker 1: But like, like this is why I'm like, oh is
Speaker 1: Olivia playing me? Did I get played by Olivia? What
Speaker 1: do you think, Whitney?
Speaker 3: I this didn't bother me at all, you know, I like,
Speaker 3: I think she's fantastic and I do agree she makes
Speaker 3: great TV. I've absolutely agreed to go on dates with
Speaker 3: people and I've completely forgotten their name and just send
Speaker 3: them to voicemail so I can hear what the name is. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was normal, Like to me, I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: like it's loud, and I will say for this whole season,
Speaker 3: I do feel like they're all drunk all the time.
Speaker 3: Like I okay, last year they were drunk all the time,
Speaker 3: and I just feel like they are just wasted. And
Speaker 3: She's just like, I don't know I remember his name.
Speaker 3: So I was okay with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Doctor Banana and Katie, how did you feel about this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I felt like maybe she wasn't doing herself any favors
Speaker 7: by not knowing Michael's name, but at the same time,
Speaker 7: she had just met him.
Speaker 1: I have also, I've also go agreed to go out
Speaker 1: with people that I didn't know their name.
Speaker 8: She's meeting a lot of people. Yeah, there's so many
Speaker 8: people on the beach. I was like, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 4: And but he's the one guy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't see that, I know, And I think
Speaker 8: maybe she was just so excited to have someone there
Speaker 8: to potentially give her.
Speaker 1: Say she wanted to get married to him, and they
Speaker 1: didn't know his Ye, that's true. That is funny.
Speaker 9: And then the producer is like, you don't know his name?
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. That was pretty good.
Speaker 3: Also made me realize because you know how we know
Speaker 3: that they have people on the list that they want
Speaker 3: to choose, and then they have alternates. Obviously Mike wasn't
Speaker 3: on Olivia's list.
Speaker 1: Right, I like, so we see, uh so then they
Speaker 1: go she goes ring ring, I don't know his name.
Speaker 1: So then.
Speaker 2: So then they start dancing and she.
Speaker 1: Goes, I like Michael, I like Mike goal and then
Speaker 1: John Henry and Olivia have gone their separate ways. But
Speaker 1: he was graceful and he's like, you know what.
Speaker 2: I wish her?
Speaker 1: Well, uh you know, but uh he's he's he's tyking
Speaker 1: like getting to know Olivia, and he's talking about how
Speaker 1: he likes sort of like heavy metal.
Speaker 3: Well, this is a cat you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry cat. She's like, he's like he
Speaker 1: likes heavy metal, and then she's like, have you been
Speaker 1: to a heavy metal concert? And he was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she was like, I would never go in
Speaker 1: a mosh pit freendan.
Speaker 3: Through all this, I was like he would. He would
Speaker 3: hate her so much.
Speaker 1: Did you go to Guns and Roses or where did
Speaker 1: you go? What did you go see recently at people?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just did Guns n' Roses. I've happily been in
Speaker 3: tons of mash pits. I love heavy cat also, so
Speaker 3: I just thought that they were. When he was sitting there,
Speaker 3: John Henry like saying like, oh, I sort of broke
Speaker 3: it off with Olivia and was trying to have this conversation.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is so annoying because she just
Speaker 3: kept jumping in and agreeing with everything he had to say.
Speaker 3: And then it ended up when they're finding out like
Speaker 3: well I like heavy metal, and then she was like ugh,
Speaker 3: and then mosh pits people die literally die in the.
Speaker 4: I know, they're probably so much safer than the rest
Speaker 4: of the concert. And like, I grew up going to
Speaker 4: punk shows. I'm a post hardcore kid. I just went
Speaker 4: to see the Callous dow Boys in town. They're so fun,
Speaker 4: They're really great. Honestly, they're the next big thing. I
Speaker 4: love them very much. But the callous cowboys put on
Speaker 4: a hell of a show. And like the mash pit
Speaker 4: is like the ethos is like we're all here to
Speaker 4: kind of let out get like, let out some steam
Speaker 4: and have fun. Yeah, and you look out for each other.
Speaker 4: So somebody drops their glasses, somebody's gonna pick them up,
Speaker 4: somebody gets knocked in the face, you're gonna get carted
Speaker 4: over to like somewhere safe. Somebody falls, everybody knows that
Speaker 4: you have to pick them up. So to me, like
Speaker 4: Kat being like a mosh pit, Oh my god, do
Speaker 4: you have a death wish or something? You crazy? How
Speaker 4: am I supposed to trust you as the father of
Speaker 4: our children if you're gonna go ahead and die at
Speaker 4: a concert? And it's just like, Oh, Cat's never had fun,
Speaker 4: Cat's just never gone outside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Cat.
Speaker 2: Cat is a wet blanket.
Speaker 1: She's as Aaron Folly would say, she's a fun Sponge's
Speaker 1: favorite is base, that's right, that's right, her favorite.
Speaker 4: Her favorite color is bab I'll never let that go.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're right.
Speaker 4: She likes John Henry. Yeah, she likes John Henry because
Speaker 4: he seems easy to control. But this this mosh pit
Speaker 4: thing through her for ak because.
Speaker 1: It is it goes with his it goes with his
Speaker 1: tongue piercing, like I feel like I feel like he's
Speaker 1: even more of a wild card than she even realizes,
Speaker 1: which I kind of enjoyed.
Speaker 3: Did you tell them out or do we about the
Speaker 3: dates that Olivia went on with with Michael, Michael.
Speaker 1: We haven't gotten there yet, so we're getting there. So
Speaker 1: she was saying, this is a new beginning. I want
Speaker 1: to have fun. I loved this phrasing, don't let your
Speaker 1: chin tilt, You're gonna let your crown slip off your head.
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 3: I wrote it down.
Speaker 1: I did too. I liked that don't put your chin like.
Speaker 1: I really thought that was so sweet. I was like,
Speaker 1: I said that, I think she did. Didn't she say
Speaker 1: that about herself? Or he did? Michael is here?
Speaker 2: Michael or Olivia?
Speaker 1: I think he. I think she did.
Speaker 4: So my notes are a bit of a scramble, but
Speaker 4: I have it written down as hers.
Speaker 1: I think she said it. It was really good. Before
Speaker 1: we take a quick break and we'll get into the date.
Speaker 1: How did you guys, I just want to I always
Speaker 1: like to hear from our rags.
Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor fantasy sweets.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Okay, Katie just perked right up. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, at first, it felt like game
Speaker 1: over is just gonna be Leslie's He's like, call off
Speaker 1: the races, and then and then he actually asked Teresa,
Speaker 1: and Teresa actually has kind of an interesting job and
Speaker 1: like they seem kind of compatible. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: I'm actually reading for Teresa at this point in time,
Speaker 1: Katie tell me everything.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was like watching it and I was just like, well,
Speaker 8: it's it's Leslie, Like Teresa doesn't stand a chance. And
Speaker 8: I don't know why he like flipped so much, Like
Speaker 8: maybe he really did. I think you said it in
Speaker 8: the podcast, like maybe he thought she was just going
Speaker 8: to like he would just have to like.
Speaker 9: Take care of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he didn't like that.
Speaker 8: And then he's like, oh no, you're like very independent
Speaker 8: and self sufficient and you can take care of yourself,
Speaker 8: and uh, maybe then he was just like, Okay, well
Speaker 8: maybe we're just a better fit then, because now, yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm reading for Teresa. I think Leslie will break as
Speaker 8: heart as to do if he chooses her, I don't
Speaker 8: think it'll last. I think she's gonna self sabotage it.
Speaker 1: She's literally says it.
Speaker 2: She says, I sabotage.
Speaker 1: She after they slept together or whatever they did, she said,
Speaker 1: he's like an old shoe. Nobody the first morning after
Speaker 1: you've slept or whatever, even hooked up with somebody, you
Speaker 1: do not want to be. No man, No one wants
Speaker 1: to be called an old shoe.
Speaker 2: Doctor Banana, what do you think?
Speaker 7: Uh, well, at this point, I think he should choose
Speaker 7: Teresa because it's the more realistic choice. Yeah, she's like
Speaker 7: an actual, I don't know what, feels like a stable person,
Speaker 7: even though she's sort of like a fragile bird in herself.
Speaker 7: But Leslie's Leslie's a mess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: And she's telling and she's telling him that, like she's
Speaker 1: telling him every time.
Speaker 7: She's like, I've never known happily ever after.
Speaker 1: And it feels like what is this? It also feels
Speaker 1: like it's like she just she's it feels like she's
Speaker 1: trying to talk herself into a safe guy and that
Speaker 1: she doesn't actually like him, but she's trying to talk herself.
Speaker 3: Whitney, you're up Okay, I have a couple. I have
Speaker 3: a question to ask as well. I think it's Teresa.
Speaker 3: I think it is the show always. I forget that
Speaker 3: we're dealing with the show that ends in a proposal
Speaker 3: and he hasn't even asked the simple question yet of
Speaker 3: what do you do for living? Yeah, it was like
Speaker 3: beyond me that this is Like.
Speaker 1: Well, I think a lot of them don't work anymore,
Speaker 1: they're retired, you know, But yeah, what did you what
Speaker 1: did you do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just basic everyday questions that one does on the
Speaker 3: first date when you've got a lot of time. But
Speaker 3: this is I keep wondering because you all have talked
Speaker 3: about it multiple times. Do we think that Prince was
Speaker 3: great in bed? Like you said, like, do we think
Speaker 3: Prince would have been good in bed?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 7: You think good?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. Also, if you've talked about Prince, you've probably
Speaker 1: slept with other musicians.
Speaker 2: You slept with the sexy chef, you slept with Prince.
Speaker 1: I think there's at least fun things happening in bed.
Speaker 3: I think there's really unexpected things. Okay, I was just
Speaker 3: sort of wondering in my mind. I was I saw
Speaker 3: him once and he was so tiny, like he was
Speaker 3: like like five.
Speaker 1: Feet but I think, I mean he's I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Wasn't attracted to him, but I love this idea that that.
Speaker 1: He's sexy motherfucker and he's like little purple booties, you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, So it is interesting that she's I agree
Speaker 3: with everything that you have said from the beginning that
Speaker 3: she is definitely like it's a competition and she wants
Speaker 3: to win, but she's not really thinking about long term.
Speaker 3: And she has like told every single red flag and.
Speaker 1: She didn't be friends, like she didn't be friend of
Speaker 1: our girl, Susan Jenner, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: you did before. She didn't befriend Ellen, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Okay, Mike, what did you think?
Speaker 4: So here's the thing, not not to not to be
Speaker 4: a party pooper. I haven't been watching The Golden Bachelor,
Speaker 4: I know, Okay, Okay, it's so bak.
Speaker 5: We've we've been watching.
Speaker 4: I needed a break, so I'm told, you know how
Speaker 4: many texts I woke up to just like the next
Speaker 4: day of the premiere being like you watching because it's
Speaker 4: pretty great.
Speaker 1: It's the best one I've ever had. It's also only
Speaker 1: eight episodes, so you could just do it. It's the
Speaker 1: best one.
Speaker 4: Lindsay do you know Lindsay Adams out in La She's
Speaker 4: a very funny comic. She runs good heroin. She's uh,
Speaker 4: she's great. She texted me today, are you watching the
Speaker 4: Golden Bachelor? And I was like, no, I'm taking a
Speaker 4: break from most of most of the Bachelor stuff. And
Speaker 4: she's like, wrong move and I'm like, okay, great. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So that that's when so she convinced me to give
Speaker 4: it a go, and I'm going to go ahead and
Speaker 4: watch it all.
Speaker 5: When it's all.
Speaker 1: Done, there's short, they're short.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was.
Speaker 4: What convinced me. That's why she was like, She's like,
Speaker 4: it takes no time at all. It's like four minutes
Speaker 4: an episode, Like just go for it exactly. So it
Speaker 4: feels like you can knock it out.
Speaker 1: No, it's actually it's actually they believe it or not,
Speaker 1: These producers actually made a really meaningful, moving fun They
Speaker 1: love that. I'm shocked.
Speaker 4: It feels like a return to form, Like it feels
Speaker 4: like the early days of the Bachelor. From what I've
Speaker 4: been told, it's like nobody's out here, Like I'm going
Speaker 4: to get on Instagram after all this. It's kind of
Speaker 4: like ept.
Speaker 1: For maybe less except for maybe Mike.
Speaker 7: Mike, have you ever wanted to see sort of Kermit
Speaker 7: the Frog fall in love?
Speaker 4: Not because that's what he's like.
Speaker 5: Okay, you guys.
Speaker 1: Sound like Kermit the Frog. He sounds like he's handsome,
Speaker 1: he's like a well. Oh. Also, somebody emailed me that
Speaker 1: apparently in an interview that he constantly around the house
Speaker 1: would talk about how big his feet were. I guess
Speaker 1: he has size fourteen feet and he was always talking
Speaker 1: about it, and just so you know, because they commented
Speaker 1: on his big feet. So apparently like that was like
Speaker 1: he was always talking about his big feet. So he's
Speaker 1: got a little bit of the dog in him, And
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that, all right, weight to take
Speaker 1: a quick break and would be right back. Guys, it's time.
Speaker 6: That's all right, put on the monkeys and get.
Speaker 1: And we're back. So here we are, and Rachel feels
Speaker 1: like her friendship Rose was with tanner Man. Rachel Just Rachel, Rachel, Rachel, Rachel,
Speaker 1: Just I come around, I would go against her that
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for her.
Speaker 2: I feel bad for her.
Speaker 1: I'm with her. I'm like, what the fucker? No, Like,
Speaker 1: oh god, Okay, So Rachel. This year, Rachel's been going slow.
Speaker 1: And Jordan the guy her the hot guy that she
Speaker 1: went on the race car driver as Katie Katie. We
Speaker 1: all picked him because she was a pilot. He was
Speaker 1: a race car driver and yeah, talk to us, Katie.
Speaker 8: He's so cute, so cute, so sweet, and they have
Speaker 8: such a connection and she is just like scared of
Speaker 8: it or something because she keeps saying it's there, it's wild.
Speaker 1: I'm so maud okay.
Speaker 4: I remember watching her send him home on her season
Speaker 4: and being like, oh, she's not here for the real thing.
Speaker 4: My whole deal was like she's all.
Speaker 9: The guys in the house were like you sent.
Speaker 1: Him like you absolutely, you said I'm home one, Like
Speaker 1: why not just keep him around? Like because it was
Speaker 1: she had like the she had like meatball, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like yeah, like that.
Speaker 4: She needed to be there like a consoliary type guy.
Speaker 4: Was her like to talk.
Speaker 5: Get in here.
Speaker 3: Yes, But I kept wondering if there was something that
Speaker 3: was said that they just edited out, like he's super
Speaker 3: conservative and she isn't like that they didn't want to
Speaker 3: put on ABC because.
Speaker 1: It was that's a good question.
Speaker 3: Cut and like not feeling it with him that I
Speaker 3: never understood, and clearly she still has the feeling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet it's the other way around.
Speaker 1: Really, Oh yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 7: I agree.
Speaker 1: So they go on a date. They do couples yoga.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've had yoga. We've had so many
Speaker 1: tan trick. I feel like there's been a lot. I
Speaker 1: will say ABC, I was proud that they did a
Speaker 1: few same sex couples. I was like, I was proud
Speaker 1: that was at first that for the for Disney, that
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. I was like, Okay, Disney, that's cool.
Speaker 1: There's two women. He takes his shirt off.
Speaker 2: He was rapped.
Speaker 3: He was that moment I think, I've got to take
Speaker 3: my shirt off. Well, day, you know what he's working
Speaker 3: out to get on this beach.
Speaker 5: By the way he does, Rachel goes, have you been
Speaker 5: preparing for this? And he goes, kind of.
Speaker 1: It worked, yes. So then they I have to say,
Speaker 1: they kissed. They had a great kiss. I felt like
Speaker 1: their date was going swimmingly. I was actually happy for her.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, we all get in our
Speaker 1: own way. Sometimes we all get scared, we all self sabotage,
Speaker 1: we've all just shut down. But maybe we shouldn't have
Speaker 1: every I'll just speak for myself. I've certainly caught a
Speaker 1: run in my lifetime.
Speaker 3: Did you notice that she said to him what we
Speaker 3: always hear on The Golden Bachelor about like keeping eye
Speaker 3: contact like that. She was like, you have such great
Speaker 3: eye contact with me, and I was like, oh, we have.
Speaker 3: We've been hearing that on Yes a lot.
Speaker 1: That was in Missing Well. He kept saying, you seem
Speaker 1: completely different like person.
Speaker 2: You seem so much happier, and.
Speaker 4: She, well, she went to one therapy session.
Speaker 5: I remember that.
Speaker 4: She's been to therapy a single time and it fixed everything.
Speaker 2: It fixed everything.
Speaker 1: And then she said, she said, I'm just happy that
Speaker 1: you're here and that, and then they they they were
Speaker 1: making out in the surf and it's like a sincerely
Speaker 1: horny way that I was happy for them, Katie. I
Speaker 1: saw you nod your head. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 8: They were really they seemed to really hit it off.
Speaker 8: They were making out. They seemed like they were really
Speaker 8: horny for each other.
Speaker 9: But then obviously, I mean, now I'm confused.
Speaker 1: I don't so then there I love that they were
Speaker 1: the couple that was really making out and then they
Speaker 1: just got completely nailed by the water, which I loved
Speaker 1: that was flopped and it looked like it was an
Speaker 1: accident because they were like making out and that wave
Speaker 1: was fucking huge. It was really good.
Speaker 5: They were in it.
Speaker 1: They were in it, and it got just yeah. And
Speaker 1: then and then they get She goes back to the
Speaker 1: beach and she pulls Tanner and in my mind, Tanner,
Speaker 1: who's sweet and so boring, so boring, so boring and
Speaker 1: so boring, and and to me felt like he just
Speaker 1: gave it to her, because like, why go for whatever
Speaker 1: her name is with the two eyes Dobby, who is
Speaker 1: so beautiful it seems sweet, like like it just so like, oh,
Speaker 1: Rachel has more status than To me, I felt like
Speaker 1: he just picked her because she had more status than
Speaker 1: the franchise.
Speaker 4: So felt like a producer pick. Frankly, how brutal is
Speaker 4: it to have one of their old like they're an
Speaker 4: ex bachelorette getting left by to the side before somebody
Speaker 4: who had three seconds of screen time in their own season. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 4: it'll tell everybody we picked horribly. No, no, no, Tanner, don't
Speaker 4: you love Rachel?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kissing her, I think to exactly what you
Speaker 3: said before. He's so boring and he's so vanilla when
Speaker 3: he had the excitement of Cat who was crazy off
Speaker 3: the wall, Like that was too much. And then Davia
Speaker 3: is just so sexy and probably in his mind exotic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: too much for him. Where Rachel's so like milk.
Speaker 1: As Brendan says, they were the same team Jerseys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she pulls him aside and she goes, look, we
Speaker 1: had a great date, and he's like, so I just
Speaker 1: want to know, like where are we at? He's like,
Speaker 1: am I giving you uncomfortable vibes? And he says to her,
Speaker 1: which fam you are? Exactly? Then he said to her,
Speaker 1: which I also, this felt like what guys would say
Speaker 1: to me when I was nineteen. They would criticize me
Speaker 1: in a way that made me feel like something was
Speaker 1: wrong with me. When I was like really that I
Speaker 1: didn't want to make out with them. He goes, you
Speaker 1: just put a lot of pressure on yourself. You need
Speaker 1: to shake it off and let someone in. Like guys
Speaker 1: would say shit like that to me when I was like, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you just like are really like you need
Speaker 1: to just let someone like, well, not you, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want to let you it like that's like
Speaker 1: the believe me. I I did just let somebody and
Speaker 1: I was making out in the sand and I had
Speaker 1: a really good time. I got knocked over in a
Speaker 1: wave like it's just not you, dude. And so he's like,
Speaker 1: you have your guard up? What do you want? You
Speaker 1: need to ask yourself what you need and his manipulation worked.
Speaker 1: She's like, she's He's right, I do have my guard up.
Speaker 1: What I'm like, what the fuck you were just out
Speaker 1: with like Jordan? You had a great date, Like what's
Speaker 1: the fucking problem?
Speaker 4: And you had a great date with Jordan where there
Speaker 4: was this weird moment of you. You probably would have
Speaker 4: your guard up if you like rejected this guy on
Speaker 4: the first date based on.
Speaker 5: Like the spark wasn't there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and lo and behold you have this like intensely
Speaker 4: you guys are being vulnerable. Sure, you approached the tantric
Speaker 4: yoga guys being like, oh my god, this is awkward,
Speaker 4: like you guys aren't horny dorks, like being weird about
Speaker 4: intimacy and then just getting right into it. There is
Speaker 4: there's this vulnerability that's happening on that you're capable of this,
Speaker 4: you've just experienced it. Yes, but then you're gonna listen
Speaker 4: to like I'm sorry, but like a piece of dry
Speaker 4: wall telling you that you have you have your own walls.
Speaker 4: Oh what, you trust them because like real recognize real
Speaker 4: with the drywall game, Like I'm sorry, but you have
Speaker 4: every right to tell this guy to go fuck himself
Speaker 4: just for the rose buddy, but like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just had a great time with a race car
Speaker 4: driver deuces, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, I have to tell you it worked. She
Speaker 1: goes and talks to Tyler, who just got his ear
Speaker 1: piers from Bradom with a giant diarius.
Speaker 3: Not see that happen? This is where I'm like, where
Speaker 3: are the cameras?
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 3: That would have been amazing TV Like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, sanitary, No, no, no.
Speaker 1: It's no.
Speaker 7: One like, hey, hey, Branden, can you not go around
Speaker 7: piercing people's ears on a beach covered in sand and bacteria?
Speaker 5: And he's just like I'm gonna like, oh.
Speaker 3: Well, I can't stop in the biggest fake time and
Speaker 3: that I could possibly find.
Speaker 4: Honestly, if I was at sketch Fest this year, I
Speaker 4: would let him pierce my ear.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: We might need to stage. So she goes and she
Speaker 1: talks to Tyler with his new giant fake diamond, and
Speaker 1: he's like. She's like, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he chose me because he wants me or if
Speaker 1: it was a friendship bros. He's like, Okay, well, I'm
Speaker 1: busy deceiving my lady. I just tongue his chest. But
Speaker 1: you don't deceive somebody. You need to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: with your person, and you need to you need to
Speaker 1: tell them that you want to work. I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: asking Tyler, like Tyler, Now, Tyler sucks, Like Katie.
Speaker 4: Dude, Tyler should know Tyler sucks. Yeah, you wouldn't even
Speaker 4: meet his fucking family.
Speaker 3: And he's so drunk. Do you see he's like slurring
Speaker 3: his speech. Oh yes, so drunk by this point. I love.
Speaker 7: Tyler is a men's right activist.
Speaker 4: What I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know that for real, but that's how he
Speaker 7: acts because I don't know. If you guys, remember was
Speaker 7: it last year when Victoria with whoever Victoria was with
Speaker 7: that she left for uh Greg Grippo. Remember the guy
Speaker 7: was really upset and he's outside and like Tyler was
Speaker 7: out there being like you don't deserve this man. These
Speaker 7: women they just treat us like ship and he had
Speaker 7: just been dumped by Bree or whatever. Like his energy
Speaker 7: is very like pro man being like fuck women. I
Speaker 7: don't know, but that's what I've noticed.
Speaker 3: He's always that guy.
Speaker 1: You lost me at the word Victoria.
Speaker 7: Remember Victoria was with someone that she ended up leaving, Gregrip,
Speaker 7: Yes you do, Victoria who steals people's husbands?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Victoria af Yeah, so Victoria. Fully, that's right.
Speaker 7: He's like always in a guy's ear being like you
Speaker 7: don't deserve that man, right, right, right, it's always if
Speaker 7: you look, it's always Tyler. He was in Bryden's ear
Speaker 7: like he goes whatever a guy. Whenever a guy is
Speaker 7: getting scorned by a woman, just look to their left
Speaker 7: of their ear.
Speaker 4: It's Tyler.
Speaker 1: Literally, it's always Tyler. It feels like character it is.
Speaker 7: It's always him, and he's always been like you know
Speaker 7: these women man's right activists.
Speaker 1: So then brush sorry, you go.
Speaker 4: To brush up on the on the season before for
Speaker 4: jumping on this today, like to recap, I read a
Speaker 4: bunch of the Vulture recaps, and the writer of those
Speaker 4: also pointed out very like Inselly talk like not necessarily man.
Speaker 4: So they'll condemn Cat, but then also just kind of
Speaker 4: defend the guys for doing similar things.
Speaker 5: Wow, her a homie.
Speaker 4: Hopper, but another guy somebody who's keeping his options open.
Speaker 4: And that's that's like just textbook toxic masculine misogyny.
Speaker 7: A And if you look, it's always Tyler.
Speaker 1: Katie kat Money.
Speaker 9: No, you're right, I noticed that.
Speaker 8: How like if a woman changes, I mean the way
Speaker 8: Cat did it, it was shy cat, Cat Cat, but like, yeah,
Speaker 8: it is different.
Speaker 1: Where it's like like.
Speaker 8: Like they were I don't know, it's different, of course,
Speaker 8: but that's how it is always in life with men
Speaker 8: and women, unfortunately.
Speaker 3: But it's true just because of the Tanner when they
Speaker 3: kept saying, which comes up in a bit, but like that,
Speaker 3: He's like, I've just had such a rough go of
Speaker 3: it here. I'm like, how like how you've been picked
Speaker 3: yeah every time?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but everybody want.
Speaker 3: Trauma that you've gone through on the beach that hasn't
Speaker 3: been working for you when you look at somebody like
Speaker 3: you know what, poor.
Speaker 1: You're ready had Davia, he had Cat.
Speaker 7: Everybody wanted Genevieve was interested in him.
Speaker 3: Wasn't number one jess On. She was all because that
Speaker 3: remember when Cat went and it was like, no, dare
Speaker 3: you take my Like you know, Olivia was getting all upset, saying,
Speaker 3: if my best friend wanted to go after the guy
Speaker 3: that I so like, he was everybody's number one, he
Speaker 3: could well any of them.
Speaker 1: He goes to Rachel and he says, it's you and
Speaker 1: only you. She goes, I do I want to try?
Speaker 1: I want I need to I need to put my
Speaker 1: guard down. And he's like, I want to be with
Speaker 1: my person, I want to start a business. I want
Speaker 1: to go home and watch Netflix. She say that is
Speaker 1: the most attractive thing anyone has sat on the beach. Yes,
Speaker 1: and to you, I want to try. I am the
Speaker 1: most myself I have ever been. And I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? What about Jordan? You just did it again?
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Katie? I know Katie has feelings about this. O Katie,
Speaker 1: I haven't let you go first.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 8: I was like so confused because she like literally just
Speaker 8: repeated herself for she had this great day out and
Speaker 8: then she's like that guy and You're like, and Tanner
Speaker 8: has we I mean we've seen him say.
Speaker 9: Two words to her.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I just like I don't see the connection there.
Speaker 8: Besides them both just being hot, there's no seems to
Speaker 8: be no chemistry and with like.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.
Speaker 9: I'm just so confused by her choices. She's making big mistakes.
Speaker 1: Agree to agree, Okay, any final thoughts, I mean, poor Jordans.
Speaker 1: Do we see Jordan again? What does he see him?
Speaker 3: They see him getting up on stage. But let me
Speaker 3: ask you this about Jordan. If you were ditched by
Speaker 3: like the girl on the first date, I was surprised
Speaker 3: that he shows her for the date. Now I understand
Speaker 3: that maybe there was nobody, no other options because they
Speaker 3: only showed him talking to one person and that other
Speaker 3: guy who's forgettable pulling cat. But I'm like, why with you? Like,
Speaker 3: I just thought that was an interesting thing, Like.
Speaker 1: Why, I bet they made him do it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I think it's also like, I think it's
Speaker 4: a good look on the beach to go make him
Speaker 4: ends with the person who quote unquote broke your heart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll get every.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. His claim to fame is literally like going
Speaker 4: on this crazy beautiful date on the first date with
Speaker 4: Rachel and her being like, you're literally the perfect guy.
Speaker 4: But I'm just not feeling like this is the right
Speaker 4: thing and him being like, oh no, I'm so sad,
Speaker 4: and then welcome to Paradise and she's there, so he
Speaker 4: has to be like, well, we did have this amazing
Speaker 4: connection on that one date.
Speaker 5: Is it still here?
Speaker 4: And he's kind of like if it is great, if
Speaker 4: it isn't, also fantastic, Like if it isn't I came in,
Speaker 4: it's like, hey, turns out it's still not a thing.
Speaker 4: But she still says I'm amazing, and she's.
Speaker 5: Like, go for it.
Speaker 4: And then he's gonna be like, how do you do? Eliza,
Speaker 4: and Aaron's gonna be wow, Wow, where that's my girlfriend?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 1: That is so great? Well, doctor Banana, do you have
Speaker 1: any final thoughts on Rachel?
Speaker 7: Uh? You know, I just wish her luck, But I
Speaker 7: don't think Tanner is her man. I mean they are
Speaker 7: still together, but I don't know. I don't think she's
Speaker 7: meant to find love on this series.
Speaker 1: No, no, All right, we're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we will be right back. It's time and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk for one hot second about Olivia and Michael,
Speaker 1: so to remind me what their date was they go
Speaker 1: to Vedonta.
Speaker 3: And they just go dancing. I guess my point that
Speaker 3: I thought was so funny in this is that like
Speaker 3: every other person that goes on a date, they have
Speaker 3: like a like they show a lot of footage of it,
Speaker 3: and this state was sort of like, who cares, Like,
Speaker 3: we don't give a crap about it, We don't care
Speaker 3: about Mike. She clearly didn't feel any need to dress
Speaker 3: up for the state. She had an old, juicy outfit.
Speaker 4: And she didn't dress up for the man. She wants
Speaker 4: to make.
Speaker 3: Those white flip flops that I feel like you would wear,
Speaker 3: you know, on a casual day. And I was like,
Speaker 3: what is happening and then just said they were sipping
Speaker 3: from drinks that still had the price.
Speaker 1: On the bottom of Wow, wow, Like that's fun.
Speaker 3: Anyway, that was it. I just thought it was the
Speaker 3: most ridiculous date because I was like, they didn't at all.
Speaker 3: They just showed them was dancing, drinking and then saying,
Speaker 3: which I did, think of you, Arden, I hope you're
Speaker 3: happy that when Mike and Olivia make out, I thought
Speaker 3: of you because we did. He said happy are you
Speaker 3: are a really good kisser? And you kept saying I
Speaker 3: bet Olivia is a really good kisser.
Speaker 1: I get the feeling she's a really good kisser. I
Speaker 1: think she knows what she's doing. You know what, who
Speaker 1: else knows what they're doing? You and your manicurist, Whitney.
Speaker 1: Your hands, Oh my gosh, there's those holiday lights.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I put holiday lights.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: It's so spectacular. Look at you. Gorgeous nail beds, gorgeous fingers.
Speaker 1: You could be a hand model.
Speaker 2: So good.
Speaker 1: Okay. Meanwhile, here we go Aaron b and Eliza Oh god,
Speaker 1: everybody else forget they were there. He wants her to
Speaker 1: be his girlfriend, and she's like, I want to be
Speaker 1: your girlfriend. She goes, it's giving commitment, it's giving relationship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. I I just the just
Speaker 1: the appropriation of like queer culture of like you know,
Speaker 1: like it's giving. I'm like, wow, okay, all right, here
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 3: It's thought too, like, hey, producers, can you get me
Speaker 3: some flowers? And they're like, here's some fifteen day old Gerber.
Speaker 1: Days is, yeah, here's some old Gerbers. I mean, so
Speaker 1: then the truth box comes out.
Speaker 5: I'm surprised.
Speaker 4: I just want to I'm surprised he didn't make her
Speaker 4: flip a coin to decide whether or not to be
Speaker 4: his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's right he was then he was
Speaker 1: Oh my god, good memory.
Speaker 2: He was eternally the coin door.
Speaker 1: So then so then the truth box comes out and
Speaker 1: somebody says, Tyler, everyone knows that you are not that
Speaker 1: into Mercedes. You better come clean. You're coasting. You're both coasting.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have to acknowledge that. Like they he
Speaker 1: did make out with Jess last.
Speaker 3: Week, Right, he'll come out finally.
Speaker 1: I think I do. I don't know. I guess it's
Speaker 1: when he was. When it was when Blake was on
Speaker 1: the date and they were on the day bed and
Speaker 1: they were supposed to explore other options, so he was like,
Speaker 1: I really shouldn't and then they did. I am I crazy. Look,
Speaker 1: I love Paradise, but I feel like I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I'm actually watching anyone fall in love this year.
Speaker 1: I don't feel no same.
Speaker 9: And there's not that Brandon and Serene.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, Tanna and Jade, or even like yeah,
Speaker 1: or even like Kenny, like and ma like Kenny, Maury, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Joe.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: People tell themselves that they're going to like Eliza and Aaron.
Speaker 4: Don't feel like they're at all the real thing. But
Speaker 4: she's like, I'm gonna get engaged and like Avan and Kylie,
Speaker 4: Like Kylie came in being like I'm gonna be with
Speaker 4: Avan and like that's like a check mark on the box.
Speaker 4: And even like fast forward to that date, she's not
Speaker 4: too impressed, you know what I mean, but you still.
Speaker 5: Like you all about it.
Speaker 9: They like each other. I think they're both just born.
Speaker 1: It's also one no one's going to the boom Boom room,
Speaker 1: which is fine if you want to take your time,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying wells.
Speaker 3: Last week saying that they're all aware of their brand
Speaker 3: and that it's not good for them to be going. Also,
Speaker 3: I kin don't think Navy was quite cute for a girl,
Speaker 3: but the idea of naming Heaven because your name was
Speaker 3: Avian and I was like, I was like, the amount
Speaker 3: of jokes that you could make about like hooking up
Speaker 3: with a girl named Heaven.
Speaker 1: Dude, yeah, Heaven and Navy. I will say, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like I understand not everybody need like, but for
Speaker 1: let's say thirty hot, young, really fit, sexy people to
Speaker 1: not have.
Speaker 2: Two of them want to go to the boom boom
Speaker 2: room at.
Speaker 1: Some point in time is shocking.
Speaker 4: I have something absolutely, especially since we're talking about like
Speaker 4: Blake Moins.
Speaker 3: Is on the Adeea not in the so all right,
Speaker 3: so this is the only other thing I will add in,
Speaker 3: And it is more to my friends that have like
Speaker 3: kids that are in their like nineteen twenty ish age range,
Speaker 3: Yeah they are not. I'm shocked because I feel like
Speaker 3: that's when we were like the horniest and getting like
Speaker 3: hitting down and making out as much as Yeah, but
Speaker 3: a lot of my friends who have kids that age,
Speaker 3: they're not. They're just like not interested. They're playing games,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, maybe this is what they do now.
Speaker 1: Well it's I was. Yes.
Speaker 8: Jes read in New York Art New York Times article
Speaker 8: about how people just aren't having as much that.
Speaker 1: He's interesting because when you also look at the way
Speaker 1: everybody's presented on it's a very sexualized look. But then
Speaker 1: but so it looks everyone looks super sexy. But it's interesting.
Speaker 1: What is it? It's interesting? Is it poor? I don't know.
Speaker 8: Is it that like they grew up having poorn like
Speaker 8: just so much they could just jack off anything.
Speaker 1: I know, it might be like weird, like jack off
Speaker 1: and like the level of I wonder if it's like
Speaker 1: to not know how to interact in real life.
Speaker 3: It's just yeah and maybe cold, but it's just yes,
Speaker 3: I just agree. But I'm just like my friend's son
Speaker 3: who's twenty, who's so freaking hot, and we've had the
Speaker 3: discussion like not she's like I don't understand, like I
Speaker 3: can't figure it out, and none of his friends are
Speaker 3: and they're all like models part time, and so they're
Speaker 3: like in the world, and I'm just like, it's so
Speaker 3: strange to me that this seems to be so it
Speaker 3: sort of fits on this beach worried about when people
Speaker 3: think about them. They're not running off to the boom
Speaker 3: boom room. They're not even like like macking as hard
Speaker 3: as I feel like.
Speaker 1: I know, it doesn't sound like. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: they're like God, I wish I could, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to protect my land because it doesn't like the song,
Speaker 1: there's no even desire for it.
Speaker 8: We thought like we thought like taper down, yeah, because
Speaker 8: we would see them like I remember, like Nick when
Speaker 8: Nick File was on there. I remember they would have
Speaker 8: open discussions, Oh, who's getting the boom boom rooms? Remember that,
Speaker 8: and then it just kind of started to get left.
Speaker 1: Who was the one that did like the full toest
Speaker 1: suck food horny? It was Riley Riley, right, wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't Marie and Kenny doing stuff.
Speaker 8: I'm sure I remember they used the band, but they
Speaker 8: were also a bit Yeah, so that kind of plays it.
Speaker 3: And your bananas are like we used to bars all
Speaker 3: the time, just showing boners. I don't feelly we get those.
Speaker 1: Anymore, doctor banana. What do you think about the like
Speaker 1: what do you you were nodding your head.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 7: I just feel like that's sort of like gen Ziera's.
Speaker 7: They're like less insecure. They're just cooler than us. They
Speaker 7: don't like think about certain things as much. I just
Speaker 7: think like they're smarter than us. They like have better
Speaker 7: critical thinking than us. Just if you go on TikTok
Speaker 7: and you like really see them like analyzing news, you're like,
Speaker 7: oh god.
Speaker 4: They're so smart, Like how did they figure that out?
Speaker 7: Or we are all our like you know, I don't
Speaker 7: know why, but millennials gen X, like we're a bunch
Speaker 7: of dummies that are like so obsessed with ourselves, and
Speaker 7: like they are just more sort of like I think
Speaker 7: they're they're more empathetic, they like have a better understanding.
Speaker 1: Of the world.
Speaker 7: Sure, but they're like horny isn't everything. I can be horny,
Speaker 7: but I don't need to go fuck that guy because
Speaker 7: I have more worth than that. And when I'm ready,
Speaker 7: I will do it. But now I don't really feel
Speaker 7: the need to. And that's okay, And that's what they're like.
Speaker 7: They're like, that's okay to feel well.
Speaker 3: I agree, but once you're in a hot makeout sash like,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's you don't want to like escalate that
Speaker 3: that you can walk away from that.
Speaker 4: And I just don't see it from this group of people.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like that level event Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're talking about wants to like dry hop, I'm not
Speaker 1: even I don't see anybody's like I wish I could
Speaker 1: like having like a hot fun Some of my favorite
Speaker 1: hookups were just like a makeout like a wall, like
Speaker 1: a even like a wall kiss, like it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be the boom boom room, but like like it's
Speaker 1: just even like it's fun to make out.
Speaker 3: When and looking up that was hot and I could
Speaker 3: see them going to the book like back in the
Speaker 3: first episode.
Speaker 4: I'd say, if even wasn't such like a shy boy,
Speaker 4: then Kylie would be all about it.
Speaker 5: We'd be seeing a lot more of it.
Speaker 4: Interesting, you know what I mean, Like they're the only
Speaker 4: couple on this, on this that I can I can
Speaker 4: see that. For the other thing is I think John
Speaker 4: Henry is just like, hey, if there's somebody that comes
Speaker 4: to the beach, that's about it.
Speaker 5: I'm about it, like we're just I.
Speaker 4: Think we're moments away from John Henry fucking in public,
Speaker 4: if I'm honest, Like he's got that energy to him.
Speaker 4: I just it feels like it reminds me of like uh,
Speaker 4: an old Kyle Kinane joke where it's like that's why
Speaker 4: dogs are always humping in front of you, like stuff
Speaker 4: in front of you there making eye contact.
Speaker 5: They're like, what this feels good near my buddy? What's
Speaker 5: the problem?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 4: It's it's like he wouldn't he wouldn't shy away from that.
Speaker 4: That's what I get from him.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I think the gen Z discussion is an interesting one,
Speaker 4: but it feels like they're like still a little bit removed.
Speaker 4: There's still of that that tier that's between the millennials
Speaker 4: and and the gen z and there they are technically
Speaker 4: gen Z, but I don't see that level of empathy.
Speaker 4: I don't see that level of critical thinking.
Speaker 2: People are so smart that they're like actually reading the news.
Speaker 4: Well, they're all all of them are sort of following
Speaker 4: a path that they're not forging. It feels like they're
Speaker 4: not out here making their own way. None of them
Speaker 4: are rustling any feathers. Even the discussions that that they
Speaker 4: have where they're like, hey, you should really talk to
Speaker 4: the person you've been seeing if you're gonna go on
Speaker 4: a date with somebody who asks you on the date.
Speaker 4: When they come to the beach, like even that after
Speaker 4: week one, they all kind of were like, Oh, that's bad,
Speaker 4: that's bad, that it's bad. Okay, we're adapting. They're not
Speaker 4: going their own route about it.
Speaker 8: I feel like they're not really doing like they're they're like,
Speaker 8: well says, they're doing what they think looks good on
Speaker 8: social media, yea, thank you. Like what they're they're branding themselves,
Speaker 8: and they're like and also, I mean I think a
Speaker 8: lot of it is like their moms are one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get it. I get that. Like,
Speaker 1: like I think I think there's no putting the genie
Speaker 1: back in the bottle. I think early days we had
Speaker 1: the naive tape people to really fucket and now like
Speaker 1: it is now, there is more.
Speaker 9: Your parents are following you on Instagram.
Speaker 1: There's more to lose as well. I think where you
Speaker 1: could quit, you you can at your job now and
Speaker 1: become like you have longevity out of here.
Speaker 2: Besides just like getting a fun vacation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we're going to come back and we're going to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about Tyler and Mercedes. I need
Speaker 1: a sexual time out and we're back. So Tyler and Mercedes.
Speaker 1: So that somebody said, everybody knows that you're not that
Speaker 1: into Mercedes about Tyler and uh and playing it safe
Speaker 1: and so even is like saying to Mercedes, you need
Speaker 1: to push him more, like if he's interest interesting, if
Speaker 1: he knows what's stuff, you have to say, like you
Speaker 1: got to push him to say what's up. And she's like,
Speaker 1: it just feels like it's like a friendship, but maybe
Speaker 1: he's not my person.
Speaker 3: We get about this earlier on in episodes or this
Speaker 3: is just like we.
Speaker 1: Just well he did make out with He did make
Speaker 1: out with Jess last week. That's right, that's right, and
Speaker 1: I think everybody knows it except for Mercedes.
Speaker 8: But but then, but then they also had that thing
Speaker 8: at the Row ceremony where they're like, we're all in,
Speaker 8: there are no secrets, we are for each other, and
Speaker 8: it's like, yeah, it's just they've been this like up
Speaker 8: and down roller coaster where you're just like, what is
Speaker 8: happening there? Yeah, they're not right for each other. Whatever
Speaker 8: it is, they should not end up together because clearly
Speaker 8: like there's a disconnect somewhere and they're not correct for
Speaker 8: each other at all.
Speaker 4: It's a tether to keep each other on the beach. Yes,
Speaker 4: quite literally, they haven't found They're like, it's it's the
Speaker 4: classic paradise move of like we haven't found somebody else
Speaker 4: that we were quite hitting it off with that that
Speaker 4: is an earnest connection. But now if we do stick
Speaker 4: together and it doesn't appear like we are making an effort,
Speaker 4: then we'll come under some scrutiny, like right now with
Speaker 4: John Henry, not John Henry with Tyler. But what I'm
Speaker 4: saying is like who put that in the truth box?
Speaker 4: Like this feels like a production move. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 4: don't buy this truth box thing. Oh Peter shaves his
Speaker 4: legs ha ha, who gives a shit? And here's a
Speaker 4: here's a legit bomb for a couple that's yeah, putting
Speaker 4: up faces and whatever.
Speaker 5: So you know he.
Speaker 3: Passes into it though, right, don't you feel like Mercedes?
Speaker 1: I think Mercedes likes him a little bit.
Speaker 3: So I think she does. I think she's excited about
Speaker 3: what's happening, and then she's being because she seemed very
Speaker 3: blindsided by that comment before and then it happens again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would I wouldn't want to hear that. I
Speaker 1: would not want to hear that.
Speaker 5: I also think, yes, where's where's this Avan?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Avan is telling is telling Mercedes like, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 4: give him like put the screws to him, you know,
Speaker 4: you like really, uh, make sure that he's serious.
Speaker 5: I'm like, where's that energy from even anywhere else?
Speaker 1: I don't really, I know. I'm like Avon was so
Speaker 1: cute on Rachel's season and I and like, sometimes I
Speaker 1: just feel like when people like actually do like each other,
Speaker 1: they get like sunstroke from like lying around and kissing
Speaker 1: on the day bed.
Speaker 7: You know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like they're dehydrated, hungover sunstroke because
Speaker 1: he was so chry, him very charming on Rachel's sees it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, maybe maybe Kylie's boring.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but she's also very boring.
Speaker 1: I think the two of them together, I think they're
Speaker 1: both really attractive and very boring, I think.
Speaker 4: And Kylie's a bit of a mean girl from what I've.
Speaker 1: Gotten, I know she is. I think he's a nice
Speaker 1: guy and she's a bit of a mean girl. Well,
Speaker 1: here we are. Kat is leading a yoga class on
Speaker 1: the beach, which was incredible. Turns out she's a yoga teacher.
Speaker 1: Didn't know or something like that. I did enjoy watching
Speaker 1: the guys that this was the first time we got
Speaker 1: the black bars in a while, too, very exciting.
Speaker 4: We got him in the Tantric yoga as well earlier,
Speaker 4: and I wanted to mention them. Yeah we got them
Speaker 4: on butt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's a lot of thongs right now. And so,
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised that Pete and Sam's like, I'm actually
Speaker 1: surprised that Canadian Sam came in and see, did you
Speaker 1: remember Sam from Bachelor in Paradise Canada?
Speaker 2: Did you watch that Mike.
Speaker 4: I did not, so with what franches that span so many,
Speaker 4: like different kind of series, like like in different places.
Speaker 4: I like to focus in on the ones that I
Speaker 4: uh that I'm either weird way to put it loyal
Speaker 4: to or like just like you know, so I've started
Speaker 4: an American and and if I opened myself up to the
Speaker 4: Canadian one one, then that's all other franchise. It's kind
Speaker 4: of like I've had to cut out Married at First
Speaker 4: Sight America to be able to watch UK and Australia.
Speaker 2: Well, because there are also five hundred episodes.
Speaker 1: So there we go. It's so good, So there's a
Speaker 1: double it's so good. So there's a double date and
Speaker 1: we have Pete and Sam and Avan and Kylie and
Speaker 1: Avan is like I'm a really bad dancer and Kylie's
Speaker 1: going crazy.
Speaker 6: And Pete little boring pilot p kind of went for
Speaker 6: it and they got their little banana hammocks and then
Speaker 6: they had to do an ab blind basos ab kissing
Speaker 6: and with a fantastic show. And I have to say,
Speaker 6: Pete woke me up and surprised me. Mike, would you
Speaker 6: go for it if you had to be in.
Speaker 4: This contest one hundred?
Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you.
Speaker 4: I think that there's something to be said for Pete
Speaker 4: kind of letting loose and having fun and that being
Speaker 4: very attractive, yes, versus Avan, who's like too scared to
Speaker 4: be bad at something. Yes, while it is like an
Speaker 4: important thing to Kylie dances professionally, that's like literally what
Speaker 4: she does. So a man who's not going to even
Speaker 4: try to dance or like not be comfortable enough to
Speaker 4: let loosen that way, why, that's a huge strike against
Speaker 4: Avian and the Kylie Avan thing. And that's why personally,
Speaker 4: I think if he doesn't kind of unlock that in himself,
Speaker 4: it's not going to work out. And I don't see
Speaker 4: them being a long term thing if we don't see
Speaker 4: that from Avan.
Speaker 2: Yes, do you agree with Mike?
Speaker 3: I think that's very astute thinking. And I also just
Speaker 3: was surprised at how bad he was at dancing, and
Speaker 3: I feel like we've yeah before, and I'm like, this
Speaker 3: is like just oddly very bad. And then I did
Speaker 3: like it when he said his friends at home we're
Speaker 3: gonna beat him up, and I just thought it's funny
Speaker 3: where I was like, yeah, I know, what kind of dude,
Speaker 3: bad friends be?
Speaker 1: You off too? I'm like, yeah, I was like, I
Speaker 1: would be you up for being a bad dancer if
Speaker 1: you were my friend anywhere to try, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't beat anybody up. You're like, I
Speaker 1: run it. I mean, I mean for just not trying.
Speaker 1: You could be as bad as you want. You got
Speaker 1: to try.
Speaker 4: And then I was if you don't try, you get uninvited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a for effort, I don't care how the actual
Speaker 1: moves are. Give it a go.
Speaker 3: You're right that if he's dating a dancer, you've got
Speaker 3: to at least be able to dance. But I'm surprised
Speaker 3: in how much like Pilot, Pete and Sam seemed to
Speaker 3: be getting along. But they just sort of like fell
Speaker 3: into each other and it seems to be.
Speaker 1: Just kind of cute. I like that this is wild
Speaker 1: cards even it says to kind of.
Speaker 5: Don't trust him though, But.
Speaker 3: I know I don't need that.
Speaker 4: I don't need I'm sorry the FP thing and then
Speaker 4: I know him that came up. I don't I get
Speaker 4: being a goofball, like I I bet that if I
Speaker 4: was there, i'd kind of be aware of the camera
Speaker 4: and whatever. But I'm also like, I'm a comedian, obviously,
Speaker 4: this is what I'm like here for. But like, at
Speaker 4: the very same time, the whole if an entire group
Speaker 4: of guys just kind of decides that there's nothing all
Speaker 4: of them to bond. These guys are bonding over like
Speaker 4: the tiniest thing. If you couldn't get on that level,
Speaker 4: I don't trust you, not for one second.
Speaker 1: Agree to agree. So even says to Kylie, I'm fully invested.
Speaker 1: I'm falling for you. She's like, it feels good to
Speaker 1: be seen. I want this to work. I'm falling for
Speaker 1: you too. I mean, that's the thing I feel really seen.
Speaker 1: There's a really intentionality about this. Just be really intentional.
Speaker 9: I just.
Speaker 1: I just want people to let loose a little bit,
Speaker 1: just be authentic.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying too, because they all seem to
Speaker 3: be drunk, which again I'm very happy with, but they
Speaker 3: all still have their wits about them with their intentionality
Speaker 3: drunk that they're just like, what, like.
Speaker 1: Lit out, give me something?
Speaker 4: Where are the demis throwing stuff into fire?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Cat has sort of been our most like you know,
Speaker 1: placing the cat. She's been the one that's like the
Speaker 1: birth Zilla, et cetera. Meanwhile, just try attempts to play frisbee. Now,
Speaker 1: let me just say, I bet I would be. I
Speaker 1: also would bet I would be equally as bad as
Speaker 1: just at frisbee. I'm the worst dark player you've ever
Speaker 1: seen in your life. I'm a really I can catch anything,
Speaker 1: and many shows that I've filmed, I've had to like
Speaker 1: toss things to people. I have the worst arm you've
Speaker 1: ever seen in your life. So I really felt and
Speaker 1: I get to the point where camera man can't there's
Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason. It doesn't go even remotely in
Speaker 1: the same direction of bad. I have a really bad arm.
Speaker 1: So to see somebody, to see it in real life
Speaker 1: what I probably would look like playing frisbee, I was like, oof, wow, Katie,
Speaker 1: I bet you're good at frisbee. Yeah. No, it's a frisbee.
Speaker 9: I mean like, yeah, it's like you just you toss
Speaker 9: it and then you can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 9: I was like, did she never go outside.
Speaker 1: As a child like this whole? I mean, some people
Speaker 1: just don't have the hand eye coordination. I can catch,
Speaker 1: I can catch, I can't toss. So then she goes huh.
Speaker 1: So then there's like we find out that her nickname
Speaker 1: is baby Jess, which which Wells mentioned last week. I
Speaker 1: don't know, and it makes sense, it does. But I'm like, baby,
Speaker 1: you're not a baby. You're twenty four. When I was
Speaker 1: on twenty four. When I was on twenty four, I've
Speaker 1: never been on twenty four twenty four, I was like
Speaker 1: an adult woman, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like I have to defend her in this way because
Speaker 4: I'm look, I'm thirty two. But I when I'm on stage,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm a little baby.
Speaker 5: Like that's my whole deal.
Speaker 4: I'm a little I'm a freaking little I'm a little guy,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm talking about. So it makes sense
Speaker 4: that like there's a but I think like that bait
Speaker 4: like that quote unquote baby energy versus the baby energy
Speaker 4: that Jess gives just gives an energy of like she
Speaker 4: still very much needs to be sheltered and protected. She
Speaker 4: looks like she's at the drop of a dot like
Speaker 4: a hat, so like be terrified of something. It feels
Speaker 4: like her glitter isn't so much like hey, I like
Speaker 4: this as like it's a security blanket at this point,
Speaker 4: like if.
Speaker 5: I you know, and it's become what she's known for.
Speaker 4: So that's like an unhealthy attachment to like the glitter thing, like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, anyway, I just I see a lot of
Speaker 4: development necessary for just and so it worries me that
Speaker 4: she's also with Blake, who's like the oldest guy on
Speaker 4: the beach, right he's.
Speaker 5: Which just doesn't sit.
Speaker 4: Right with me.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so here we go, we round the bend
Speaker 1: to the grand sort of tense finale. They launched Katie
Speaker 1: Thurston down to the beach who he was engaged to
Speaker 1: and he hasn't seen terms of she's also bachal at
Speaker 1: slash stand up comedian that was brutal?
Speaker 3: Have you they have it in the video. I feel
Speaker 3: like you sent it to me, right, that stand up
Speaker 3: video of hers.
Speaker 1: I think, Doug Benson said Doug, Doug.
Speaker 7: I mean yes, I think it's emphasis on the thirst Kadie.
Speaker 3: This use of the word stand up comedian with her
Speaker 3: is such an unfair like there should be a word
Speaker 3: for somebody who's trying to do but can't do it.
Speaker 3: And then I know it's brutal graduated too, it's brutal.
Speaker 4: I will I will say so. Mike podcast co host
Speaker 4: Chris Mahia has performed with her in Seattle and he
Speaker 4: has mentioned that what she's been doing is quite literally
Speaker 4: she is like an open micro at this point. But
Speaker 4: she has this fame, she has the drive of the
Speaker 4: open micro where she'll go to shows and sit there
Speaker 4: and watch and she'll be writing, and so it's kind
Speaker 4: of like interesting. On one hand, I'm like, this is
Speaker 4: the hustle, this is what we like, you know, as
Speaker 4: someone who's almost at it for like thirteen years, you're like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, what happened to me? I used to
Speaker 4: be that person?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: And but she's like starting off with such like you know,
Speaker 4: a million something followers. You know, it's it's been on
Speaker 4: TV so much already. She can ask for something and
Speaker 4: get it, you know what I mean. But she's not
Speaker 4: got the like the chops to go with it yet.
Speaker 4: And I think that if she does continue to push
Speaker 4: in that direction she does want to, like, that'll be
Speaker 4: great because she's already kind of using her status to
Speaker 4: bring up comics that she does enjoy and like in
Speaker 4: that scene, which I quite appreciate, Okay, but her coming
Speaker 4: on and being like, Hey, I'm Katie and I'm here.
Speaker 4: Guess what's gonna happen since I'm here?
Speaker 5: We all know me. I'm Katie. You know me as
Speaker 5: a bachelortt and comedians.
Speaker 1: Stand ups, stand up comedian. Well, aside from being a
Speaker 1: brilliant stand up comedian, Katie is also a former bachelor.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody remembers that. It's never mentioned.
Speaker 1: So she pulls Blake aside. He looked rocked that she
Speaker 1: was there.
Speaker 2: He looks freaked.
Speaker 1: The fuck out, and she's like, wow, I sent you
Speaker 1: a bunch of voice memos, like he has not. I
Speaker 1: think he really loved her, and she dumped him and
Speaker 1: then like they never talked to each other again or
Speaker 1: sorry each other. She sent him a bunch of she
Speaker 1: sent him a bunch of voice memos. She's like, I
Speaker 1: did listen to them. In fact, I remember each one
Speaker 1: of them. But he's tripping out. I remember all everything
Speaker 1: that you were saying, but I was bitter and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to respond, and you were in a relationship,
Speaker 1: and that just felt like daggers because she started dating
Speaker 1: again that she cut on the first night, and she
Speaker 1: he said what we went through was real to me,
Speaker 1: and she's like, me too, there's a lot of good
Speaker 1: that I remember. Yeah, I mean So then Blake starts crying,
Speaker 1: and he goes, I can't think about us in the
Speaker 1: moment and how real it felt. It throws me off.
Speaker 1: I don't think about it. All the memories were meal
Speaker 1: and then she's like, I also felt it too.
Speaker 2: I felt bad for him.
Speaker 5: I did care. That was rough.
Speaker 3: I think it was rough too, because you sent her
Speaker 3: down with the possibility that like we didn't know what
Speaker 3: she was doing there, but like, yeah, when.
Speaker 2: It felt like she could a bit on the market.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think that that was really awful to
Speaker 3: do to him because he really dumped by this girl
Speaker 3: and then she yet into another relationship and.
Speaker 1: He's and he's been pretty nice this whole time, Like
Speaker 1: he's been pretty He's been a good guy all summer.
Speaker 3: He's the one that Rachel first sat down with in
Speaker 3: this and he was like, you got to figure out
Speaker 3: what Tanner wants, like if you're the safety rose or
Speaker 3: if he's really into you, like have a conversation. He's
Speaker 3: been like a really pleasant person.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think he looks like he's a comedian. And he
Speaker 3: was on Zoe, the Zoe Deschanel Show. You know, but
Speaker 3: I don't know girl, Yeah, new girl.
Speaker 5: Jake Johnson like one of the leads.
Speaker 3: You mean, yeah, the Adam guys and his name Adam.
Speaker 4: Adam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Adam Adam Adam.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: Who I think that he looks like he's he's getting
Speaker 1: cuter and cuter.
Speaker 8: To me, I'm really I find myself very true Blake,
Speaker 8: and he also like he's smart and he talks like
Speaker 8: you notice all the women come to him. Yeahs they
Speaker 8: want to like talk because he's like a mature Yeah,
Speaker 8: he's he's like the.
Speaker 1: Grocery store Joe.
Speaker 5: Thirty.
Speaker 4: He is my age and they come to him like Grandpa.
Speaker 4: I needed rice because.
Speaker 3: He's got the hoddest body. Those eyes are gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting more and more handsome. Well, he's in
Speaker 1: a loop right now. Jess is freaking out. She forgot
Speaker 1: that he was engaged, and she's like, well he was
Speaker 1: engaged to the bachelorette. I already feel like an idiot here.
Speaker 1: So then Blake pulls her aside and and she's like,
Speaker 1: nothing went the way that I thought it would. And
Speaker 1: Jess is like, this makes me want to go home.
Speaker 1: She's like, and then Katie was saying, the producer asked,
Speaker 1: do you still have feelings for him? And she's like
Speaker 1: it's always been Blake, and Jess is like super upset.
Speaker 1: She's like, I have an engagement dress packed. It's hard
Speaker 1: that I'm not hopelessly in love right now. I just
Speaker 1: want to be in love and happy, and so would
Speaker 1: they ask if Katie has still loves him. She gets
Speaker 1: tears and she goes, oh fuck. Blake starts tripping out
Speaker 1: his ex fiance is there and adds confusion. Onto the confusion,
Speaker 1: Kylie goes, it's giving massy. So then they go, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to do a roast.
Speaker 3: You're not actually for love. I'm here did to give.
Speaker 1: You, and we're not here to do what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna turn the rose ceremony honest feet and we're
Speaker 1: going to the roast Palopah.
Speaker 3: And they were already so drunk. They were comments earlier
Speaker 3: about how tired they were, and then yeah, and.
Speaker 4: To this, Oh, hey, guys, I know what it'll shake
Speaker 4: things up? How about some creative writing.
Speaker 1: And also being mean to each other, just being fucking mean.
Speaker 1: So then she does she goes, she goes, well, hey, baby, Jess,
Speaker 1: it's funny that Blake also probably he made me call
Speaker 1: him daddy too.
Speaker 2: I mean just like all of that.
Speaker 3: I mean, Katie's jokes so sorry. So I just like
Speaker 3: how they all went off and we're all excited about
Speaker 3: doing these things and that's yeah. Cut to like Rachel
Speaker 3: and she's like all pissed, being like we all know
Speaker 3: that this is just an excuse for someone to be mean,
Speaker 3: and then she's like drinking more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Avan, I will say Evan's Rachel impression was excellent.
Speaker 1: It was so it was a most personality I've ever
Speaker 1: seen from him, and it was actually really accurate.
Speaker 3: Kissed her perfect.
Speaker 8: And some of them were really funny and not that mean.
Speaker 8: You know that it did get mean, but some of
Speaker 8: them were like legitimately fine.
Speaker 1: I know, I was surprised, and I actually felt like
Speaker 1: Evans was not mean and was actually just really like
Speaker 1: I was really good.
Speaker 3: Not just shows. But I will say, just as somebody
Speaker 3: who watches Power Through like every season in the last
Speaker 3: few months, but the the RuPaul's drag Race, but whenever
Speaker 3: they do stimps, oh yeah, I mean, it's such a
Speaker 3: basic thing, but they're like, don't just be mean. There
Speaker 3: has to be like something empressing to it. And I
Speaker 3: feel like this was just like and if you got
Speaker 3: Katie is the one teaching it. There's like no real teacher,
Speaker 3: so it was like just be mean, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: it just made me sad that like somebody couldn't have
Speaker 3: like really helped them because some of the stuff was awful.
Speaker 4: That was set.
Speaker 1: I was the judge on the stand up RuPaul on
Speaker 1: the stand up episode one year.
Speaker 3: You haven't did that year yet?
Speaker 1: Season three honey, oh I started.
Speaker 3: Yeah, got to go back?
Speaker 1: Made a mistake a Season three was great, so so
Speaker 1: then they made a lot of botox jokes about kat
Speaker 1: Olivia said how do I taste?
Speaker 3: Which just felt.
Speaker 1: They were Tanner was so mean to Rachel after this
Speaker 1: was I felt for her here, I don't care, I
Speaker 1: don't care, like who look, she can't get out of
Speaker 1: her own way. But she picked Tanner. At least he
Speaker 1: was bland but seemed perfectly pleasant. He says, well, Tyler's here.
Speaker 1: We were hoping for Gabby, but we got Rachel.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have another Bachelorette on this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry I watched it
Speaker 1: so long. Yeah that's okay.
Speaker 3: I rewatched it this morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We were yeah, we were told there was to
Speaker 1: be another bachelorette here and we were hoping for Gabby,
Speaker 1: but we got Rachel. That's so fucking mean to say
Speaker 1: after you're the one who's now saying I want to
Speaker 1: leave here with you.
Speaker 8: Likee knowing her insecurities about that as well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely really so mean. It was was so fucking he's
Speaker 1: a bad guy that does everything.
Speaker 9: She better not Wait, who has the roses?
Speaker 1: Who's going to women?
Speaker 4: I mean, Tanner's going home, there's 't a person interested
Speaker 4: in him.
Speaker 5: And then Rachel's just.
Speaker 4: Like, oh he literally I shared I shared that with
Speaker 4: him and he used it against me, you know, a
Speaker 4: very way.
Speaker 5: I feel humiliated.
Speaker 1: But Dan, I mean obviously, but like how does like
Speaker 1: how does how does like if you're Jordan and she
Speaker 1: picks you, like, how do you get over? Like what
Speaker 1: just happened? By the day bed? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like if you're not like I don't understand, like all
Speaker 3: these people I feel like are pulled in different areas.
Speaker 1: But even if you watch it back, like if you
Speaker 1: were together like a man, I mean.
Speaker 4: Look, it is it is a show that like they
Speaker 4: they forget that they're supposed to be open to other people.
Speaker 4: Like it's a show that like the moment that there's
Speaker 4: people being like, we've liked, oh are we together? We're together,
Speaker 4: We're together, We're together. I've Laine claim to you. Okay,
Speaker 4: now everything is a betrayal. A conversation can ruin my
Speaker 4: day because you're having a conversation with another guy. Like
Speaker 4: it's just they're they're forgetting the aspect of like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're actively dating many people. Like that's the point. It's
Speaker 4: kind of like we're all the Bachelor, we're all the Bachelorette,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So they it's like they're
Speaker 4: forgetting that. So if Jordan has his wits about him
Speaker 4: and it's just like normal, yeah, then I think it'll
Speaker 4: just be fine for Jordan. I just think what this
Speaker 4: did is it's cemented that Tanner's going home and that
Speaker 4: Jordan's getting Rachel's rose, and hopefully she can go to
Speaker 4: another therapy session and the Gabby stuff won't hurt her
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 1: I hope you're right.
Speaker 9: I hope she chooses Jordan.
Speaker 8: I mean, especially after this, Like I mean, as we
Speaker 8: saw like all the women woke up and we're like, well.
Speaker 1: Fuck all the men. The women were passed.
Speaker 5: The women were.
Speaker 1: Blow up.
Speaker 3: Mercedes still a bard than you've got.
Speaker 1: Yes, people were hurt. Rachel was upset. So then Blake
Speaker 1: is like, this is not good. He so he pulls
Speaker 1: Jess and we see a preview of next week and
Speaker 1: he said, I should have felt love, but we're not
Speaker 1: getting there. We're not getting there at all. Seeing my
Speaker 1: ex reminded me of what felt like and we are
Speaker 1: not getting there at all. Yeah, and then watching Well's
Speaker 1: Tork by the Bar and everybody does doing the motorbike.
Speaker 1: That was pretty fun.
Speaker 3: That was great. It was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like in years past, I don't
Speaker 3: remember everything exploding on like the last two episodes, but
Speaker 3: it does feel like every relationship is imploding on the line.
Speaker 1: I think we have more episodes. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to end the night that Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 2: That is not the finale.
Speaker 1: Well says it keeps now.
Speaker 3: Well said he was halfway through while they shot this,
Speaker 3: So we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna be going to the holidays, I really think.
Speaker 8: So, I actually think we are. I tried to it
Speaker 8: up and I couldn't find it.
Speaker 4: It's season.
Speaker 1: There's usually like ten December seventh, seventh is okay, all right,
Speaker 1: They're not doing this is Thanksgiving. There's two more, but
Speaker 1: there might but there might be like a double episode.
Speaker 3: When does the Golden Bacheloren does.
Speaker 1: That on the on the nine, So.
Speaker 3: It'll be a one hour Bachelor in Paradise on the
Speaker 3: same night of the one hour finale of Golden and
Speaker 3: then a two hour one the on the seventh. It'll
Speaker 3: be a two hour because remember we got a wedding
Speaker 3: coming and remember Well said it's no you would expect
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's Canadian, maybe it's Canadian Sam and
Speaker 1: Pilot Pean, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who would expect either married?
Speaker 3: Based on Seth meeting him the other day?
Speaker 1: Right, who met him?
Speaker 3: Your friend?
Speaker 1: That yeah? Sure, oh yeah, you're right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Seth met him, that's right, and all the ladies were like.
Speaker 3: They're all over him.
Speaker 9: So then right, yeah, but that doesn't mean he doesn't
Speaker 9: mean he's relationship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's they probably have nda stuff happening and they're
Speaker 4: just like, you know, but I mean, I'm going through
Speaker 4: all this. By the way, just looking at Wikipedia for
Speaker 4: the episodes and stuff, I'm reminded of somebody that we
Speaker 4: haven't mentioned, and it's very fitting. Taylor showed up with
Speaker 4: Jordan's and his Chiron read Charity's background extra and I'm like,
Speaker 4: we're back, baby, where it's at? Iron is whoever wrote
Speaker 4: that caption should have helped with the roast jokes.
Speaker 1: Well, I just want to say, first of all, it's
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you guys on. Who do
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna Who do you think is going
Speaker 1: to get engaged?
Speaker 5: Oh? God? Uh, none of them? But I don't believe
Speaker 5: in any of these.
Speaker 1: I think one of them will propose, at least just
Speaker 1: for the politay.
Speaker 4: Aaron and Eliza seem to be on track to propose,
Speaker 4: but then Eliza's going to drop him like a hot.
Speaker 1: Ham Even and Kylie, No.
Speaker 5: I don't think they're doing it any right.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think Aeron and Eliza I
Speaker 1: think you're right. But he said who you wouldn't expect?
Speaker 3: I think and Jess are going to get together.
Speaker 1: That'd be fun, honestly, wild Well, we got some new reviews,
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to do it.
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Speaker 1: So was this a stop on the way to f
Speaker 1: Boy Island? Why is she here? That's one of the
Speaker 1: number two. Kylie and Evan wanted to name their daughters
Speaker 1: Navy in Heaven is not shocking. She would also probably
Speaker 1: spell Navy any ig h ve pretty sure the middle
Speaker 1: name options are skims or discount Cold Kylie ten and
Speaker 1: then the final one, I am liking Michael Olivia's vibe,
Speaker 1: so far Wait, why did we leave their date to
Speaker 1: go back to Kat? No? Sick of Paradise Karen, She's
Speaker 1: had four weeks of terrorizing our screens. Go away.
Speaker 2: I do like paradise, Karen of cat.
Speaker 1: All right, which one is your winner? We have Boy Island,
Speaker 1: Navy discount code or Paradise Karen. You get to pick
Speaker 1: this week the winner of my Carrozza.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Navy discount code for the wind
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 1: You cannot go right. I almost feel like Navy should
Speaker 1: be the discount code for scams. There we go, Shai Costain,
Speaker 1: you are here for the win. Don't forget. We have
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Speaker 1: all happening, uh, Whitney, Yeah, what would you like to promote?
Speaker 3: I'm going to promote my brother's podcast, No, not podcasts,
Speaker 3: a documentary.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Somebody emailed us about this, so they'll you could tell
Speaker 1: them where to go find it.
Speaker 3: So it's called Last Stop Larima and so good. You're
Speaker 3: watching it anywhere outside of the US and Canada, It's
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Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mike Carratta, what would you like to promote?
Speaker 4: Anything you want to check out by me should be
Speaker 4: on my link tree, So link tree slash Mike Caroza,
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Speaker 4: is coming to town on December fifth, so get tickets
Speaker 4: to that. I'll be opening for him, and John Roy
Speaker 4: is also in town. But I'm taking it easy for
Speaker 4: the rest of the year, So just keep an eye
Speaker 4: on my Instagram and I will be posting about stuff
Speaker 4: in the coming months because some stuff is coming up
Speaker 4: I can't talk about just yet.
Speaker 1: KT Money, what would you like to talk about?
Speaker 8: I am Katie Underscore Money on Instagram. As always, please
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Speaker 1: That's nice. That's nice. Doctor Banana, what would you like
Speaker 1: to promote?
Speaker 7: I'm at Anna hosting on Twitter, at selling hosts on Instagram.
Speaker 7: I have a podcast Ethnically Ambiguous if you.
Speaker 4: Want to listen.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you around?
Speaker 1: All right? Love it, Whitney, Mike. We love you, guys.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to have this combination of people. We
Speaker 1: love when you're on and we'll be back, not this,
Speaker 1: it will be back. Well, whenever that comes back, we'll
Speaker 1: be back and we'll be back. So that'll be fun,
Speaker 1: all right until next time. Uh, you know, it'll be
Speaker 1: a little delayed because I'm flying back with the cats
Speaker 1: with doctor shamwam Shamaha and the girls Mittens and Meow.
Speaker 1: So I think the night of the finale, so there
Speaker 1: probably will be a delay for our finale recaps, so
Speaker 1: don't don't be upset. It's coming. It's literally because I
Speaker 1: will be arriving with two cats and doctor shamwam shamawa. Okay,
Speaker 1: until next time.
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