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Speaker 2: It's Sunday night, and.

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Speaker 3: We're here to talk about what just went down on

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Speaker 3: week twelve and look ahead to Monday and Thursday night football.

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Speaker 3: As always, I am Ian Hardest, director of the Fantasy Labs,

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Speaker 3: NFL product in Action Network Analyst here with me as

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Speaker 3: always Chris Raymond, co host of I'll Take That Bet

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Speaker 3: on the ESPN Plus as well've senior at during an

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Speaker 2: Chris, what's going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 2: Ian say? It was a good week twelve.

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Speaker 3: We had Thanksgiving this past Thursday, so a whole out

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Speaker 3: to talk about. We'll stick mostly the Sunday, but first

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Speaker 3: we'll get things started with some of our best and

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Speaker 3: worst core players of the week.

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Speaker 4: Some players pay and some players sligh. Who were the

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Speaker 3: Chris, give me your single best player of the week? Man,

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Speaker 3: who was your bank roll builder?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it was Eric Ebron.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking David Morris originally, because he was also

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Speaker 5: Ebron had another multi touchdown game. He had actually played,

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Speaker 1: So happen to pay off again.

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Speaker 5: And the Dolphins are a team you always kind of

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Speaker 3: That's a good point about his specific targetser I was

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Speaker 3: hating on his snap count. I think Matthew Friedman mentioned

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Speaker 3: My best play this week was Austin Eckler. Obviously, Melvin

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Speaker 3: So it just seemed like a situation where we had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with those higher price running backs, looking

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Speaker 2: I'm the trash man.

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Speaker 5: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know

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Speaker 3: This week's trash man is Odell Beckham Junior. We got

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Speaker 3: game plan. Chris, what are your thoughts on Obj's I

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Speaker 5: You know they threw for two ninety seven, but you

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Speaker 1: It's it's tough. It's tough. But I think this speaks

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Speaker 5: That coaches are going to game plan around different players

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Speaker 1: It, that is a disgusting act.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Joe, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: So this line opened up at Pittsburgh minus three and

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Speaker 2: Here, for sure.

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Speaker 3: It's so hard to hate on anything Ab does. The

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Speaker 3: haven't seen that same week two week explosion that Juju

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Speaker 3: We even saw James Washington getting involved today, even though

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Speaker 3: he's diving for passes he should probably just be running

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Speaker 1: No, I saw that one.

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Speaker 2: For sure, but just running bro. It looked like a

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Speaker 3: But oh well, I'm still I'm still optimistic in James

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Speaker 3: Yes, Switzers turning into basically the AFC version of Adam Humphries.

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Speaker 2: That's my all right.

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Speaker 3: Now, we're going to take a quicker view of the

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Speaker 3: winning millionaire maker lineup from pud Jamma Daddy seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Becoming a DFS millionaire to talk about a dream come true.

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Speaker 4: What DraftKings lineup lived a daily fantasy fantasy this weekend?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: So pud Jama Daddy's seventeen is the proud new owner

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Speaker 3: of one million dollars thanks to his lineup that contributed

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Speaker 2: Point eighty two points.

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Speaker 3: He rolled with Lamar Jackson at the QB spot Ravens defense.

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Speaker 3: No, last week zach Ertz was that high priced guy

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Speaker 4: Keep your head on a swivel for the injury report.

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Speaker 2: First one that pops out.

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Speaker 3: Marlon Mack, Colts running back really taking over that backfield

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Speaker 5: Name Heines is probably going to be the guy that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting spot. That's luck too.

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Speaker 3: I know. I'med Bradshaw was scoring touchdowns every other week

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Speaker 2: Talent levels just way down.

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Speaker 3: How are approaching this Bengals offense? Or are you approaching

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we saw Tyler Boyd really get shut down

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Speaker 2: That's a little weaker against the slot.

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Speaker 3: First one mentioned him briefly, but Baker Mayfield and the Browns,

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, as soon as Freddie Kitchens came into town,

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Speaker 2: But man, I mean the Browns look they look for real.

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Speaker 1: We all knew that, we all knew what they needed.

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Speaker 5: You know Najok who came through with a touchdown today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I keep seeing tub on top of all these

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Speaker 3: to kind of be a tough situation week to week

441
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Speaker 3: to figure out who's going to lead this squad and

442
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Speaker 3: receiving I think.

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Speaker 5: In this this situation, you do have to kind of

444
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Speaker 5: just look at the guys getting the uh, the most

445
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Speaker 5: air yards and the most targets, and that's been that's

446
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Speaker 5: been Calaway and Landry, and then we know Nadjoku for

447
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Speaker 5: a tight end.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's going to be up there.

449
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Speaker 5: But I think, I think if you're trying to, you know,

450
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Speaker 5: find some value, to find a guy, it's it's Colways,

451
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Speaker 5: the guy with the most air yards on the team

452
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Speaker 5: over those three games, up at two hundred and one,

453
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Speaker 5: and then Landry has one to seventy six. So I

454
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Speaker 5: would bet on Landry eventually breaking out of this funk.

455
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Speaker 5: His average up the targets around ten point four, so

456
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Speaker 5: it's not like he's just only seeing those underneath targets.

457
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Speaker 5: But again, then again that may be part of the

458
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Speaker 5: issue as well. So I've bet on Landry breaking out

459
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Speaker 5: of it. I think Najoku will continue h to play

460
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Speaker 5: well and the guy like the non core guy, I

461
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Speaker 5: think I would look at his Callaway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be good to see Kala would get back

463
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Speaker 3: on track. Definitely saw him flash a little bit in

464
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Speaker 3: the preseason and early on in the year. All Right,

465
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Speaker 3: next situation, Christian McCaffrey and the Panthers. So Devin function

466
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Speaker 3: was out today with a back injury, and the Panthers,

467
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Speaker 3: accordingly went Christian McCaffrey eleven targets, DJ Moore had nine,

468
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Speaker 3: Greg Olsen had four, everyone else had two. Reviewer McCaffrey

469
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Speaker 3: absolutely went off in this game. Became just a ninth

470
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Speaker 3: running back in the last twenty five years with at

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Speaker 3: least one hundred yards rushing and receiving in the same game, Chris,

472
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Speaker 3: if Funch is gonna be out for an extended period

473
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Speaker 3: of time, and maybe even if he's not, do you

474
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Speaker 3: just expect the kind of this Panthers offense to become

475
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Speaker 3: the Christian McCaffrey show as they're basically and win now mode.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I think it was pretty much excise me

477
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Speaker 5: the Christian McCaffrey show. Oh year, if you really think

478
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Speaker 5: about it, I mean, this guy before the season, we

479
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Speaker 5: kind of laughed as as fantasy owners that have gone

480
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Speaker 5: through just way too much over the years. You know,

481
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Speaker 5: just every year, there's a couple of quotes out there

482
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Speaker 5: where coach goes, you know, I'm going to play this

483
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Speaker 5: guy some amount of snaps that makes you think that

484
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Speaker 5: they've never snat down and looked at like snaps or

485
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Speaker 5: targets or whatever touches and then you know it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: But with McCaffrey, you know he's in there every snap.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's usually getting eighty ninety even up to

488
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Speaker 5: one hundred percent of the backfield carries in games, and

489
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Speaker 5: you know easily has that double digit target upside, gets

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Speaker 5: goal line carries. So I think, you know this is

491
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Speaker 5: this offense is going to run through McCaffrey. And then

492
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Speaker 5: you also had DJ Moore continue to bail out. You know,

493
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Speaker 5: eight catches ninety one yards, nothing crazy, but you know,

494
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Speaker 5: nine targets and he caught eight of them. So I

495
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Speaker 5: think that's really good to see for Carolina because you know,

496
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Speaker 5: Functions is a certain type of receiver.

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Speaker 1: He got a lot better. But I'm having Dj Moore

498
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Speaker 1: and Christian.

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Speaker 5: McCaffrey really completes that offense, especially when you still have

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Speaker 5: solid complimentary pieces like Olsen and Tory Smith and Curtis Samuel.

501
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Speaker 5: So I think this gonna be a really explosive offense

502
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Speaker 5: for Cam down the stretch a.

503
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Speaker 2: Whole lot of speed. There is Samuel and Smith, as

504
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Speaker 2: you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, back in July, Caroline pants coach Ron Rivera's

506
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Speaker 3: it would be ideal if McCaffrey could get twenty five

507
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Speaker 3: to thirty touches a game, and we scoffed that up.

508
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Speaker 3: But man, it's been pretty close to what's been happening.

509
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Speaker 2: So good.

510
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Speaker 3: Good to see Ron kind of fulfill that promise. All right,

511
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Speaker 3: other offense, we're gonna look at the Ravens. Joe Flack

512
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Speaker 3: goes out another week still, Lamar Jackson season, Gus the

513
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Speaker 3: Bus Edwards was also the RB one again with Alex

514
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Speaker 3: Collins and active time. Montgomery and Buck Allen have not

515
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Speaker 3: been involved. These last two weeks. Ravens went from having

516
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Speaker 3: basically the most passed every offense in the league to

517
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Speaker 3: the most passive verse offense in the league.

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Speaker 2: Chris, how are you approaching.

519
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Speaker 3: This Ravens offense knowing that it's basically Lamar and Gus

520
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Speaker 3: running the ball as often as possible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the receivers all get a downgrade, you know.

522
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Speaker 5: I think John Brown and tournaments will continue to be

523
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 5: a good option, just because he's.

524
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Speaker 1: The kind of guy.

525
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Speaker 5: You know, if there ends up being a bigger play,

526
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Speaker 5: a big play, or you know, a kind of a

527
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 5: play that is worth stacking, it's probably going to be him.

528
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Speaker 5: But Gus Edwards. I mean, if you have a team

529
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Speaker 5: that's going to run instead of you know, the NFL

530
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Speaker 5: average around thirty times a game, you're running forty times

531
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Speaker 5: a game or more. That just raises the floor of

532
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Speaker 5: a running back, even somebody like Gus Edwards who hasn't

533
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Speaker 5: really gotten too involved in the passing game, at least

534
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 5: not yet, so for them to be rush having that

535
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Speaker 5: kind of run volume, I think it really it really

536
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Speaker 5: helps Edwards and I think when Collins comes back, he'll

537
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Speaker 5: probably play second fiddle to Edwards kind of like the

538
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Speaker 5: like these last couple of weeks, they've given Edwards around,

539
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Speaker 5: you know, two thirds of the carries today, you know,

540
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Speaker 5: twenty three, Montgomery eight, Allen one, So you know, they

541
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Speaker 5: continue to kind of give him the majority of carries

542
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Speaker 5: in that backfield, and I think we'll see that going forward.

543
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Johnson had twenty three carries today. That was the

544
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Speaker 3: most by a Ravens running back since Terrence West in

545
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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. So yeah, it seems like it's the it's

546
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Speaker 3: the bust show on the backfield. But yeah, man, I

547
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: don't have to think about these receivers. Really Snead led

548
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 3: the team with eight targets last week. He't even had

549
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Speaker 3: a single target today, and he actually was on the

550
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Speaker 3: field for almost the whole game too, So it's a

551
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Speaker 3: tough situation to.

552
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Speaker 2: Figure out they're passing the ball all right.

553
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna look ahead the Monday Nights matchup between

554
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Speaker 3: the Titans and the Texans. This game is in Houston.

555
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: Texans opened up as five and a half point favorites.

556
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Speaker 3: That has been bet down the four points. The over

557
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: under opened at forty three and that has gone down

558
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Speaker 3: to forty one and a half. We'll start off looking

559
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: at this Titans offense. Corey Davis the number one wide receiver,

560
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: we talked about him a lot on this podcast, but

561
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Speaker 3: Taiwan Taylor, the number two receivers out with a foot injury.

562
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Speaker 3: So Chris, how are you approaching this Titans passing game?

563
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Speaker 3: Behind Davis, who's the obvious number one guy there?

564
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Speaker 5: I think you just have to kind of look at

565
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Speaker 5: the guys that have been stepping up lately over these

566
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 5: past couple of games.

567
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Speaker 1: With Teywan Taylor out.

568
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Speaker 5: If you're trying to get any idea, it's kind of

569
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Speaker 5: similar to when you're looking at what's going to happen

570
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Speaker 5: in a backfield. What's usually most predictive in those situations

571
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Speaker 5: is just the most recent data.

572
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Speaker 1: So I mean over these last few games, you.

573
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Speaker 5: Know, Davis continued, you know, thirty percent target chare, but

574
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Speaker 5: then you had John Neu Smith second on a team

575
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Speaker 5: with a fifteen percent target shares, So I think, you know,

576
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Speaker 5: Jonas Smith is kind of a guy that we always

577
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Speaker 5: thought when Dwayne Walker was out that Jonah Smith could

578
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 5: be a viable kind of streaming type or low cost

579
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Speaker 5: DFS playing. It really hadn't materialized until these last few

580
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 5: games where he's starting to get red zone targets, so

581
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: he's somebody the monitor. And then Taj Sharp, you know,

582
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 5: he's still still in the picture. We've seen him kind

583
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 5: of come awive for one hundred yard games and we've

584
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 5: seen him go completely target lists in others, but you know,

585
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 5: he's sitting there with the twelve percent targets here of

586
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 5: his last few games, fourteen percent of the air yard,

587
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 5: so I think you look for them. And then in DFS,

588
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 5: Cameron Batson, he tends to play a little bit more

589
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 5: when when Taylor, one of the top two guys is

590
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 5: out as well. In three wive sets, and he's actually

591
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 5: popping four DK showdowns as the top value on the

592
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 5: on the slate because he's probably only two hundred dollars.

593
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Speaker 1: So that's somebody to watch for if you're playing DFS.

594
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff.

595
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Speaker 3: And now, as you mentioned with Joanu, I mean he

596
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 3: only had three or fewer targets in weeks one through ten,

597
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 3: and week eleven he pops off for eight.

598
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Speaker 2: So we'll see if that's.

599
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Speaker 3: A trend that could perhaps we capitalize on him his

600
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Speaker 3: last five weeks. And quick look at the Titans backfield,

601
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: we've kind of seen Deon Lewis take over this situation

602
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: in the last month or so. He's had at least

603
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: nineteen touches in three of the last four games. He's

604
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: out touched Henry and at least those four really for

605
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: most of the season overall. But this is a tough

606
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 3: match at the Texans. Theyuring third and overall DBA number

607
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: two defense. First a run only sakwon Barkley and he

608
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: had eighty two rushing yards has gone over seventy five

609
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: yards on the ground versus Houston the season, So, Chris,

610
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Speaker 3: I mean tough run defense, mediocre Titans run blocking offensive line.

611
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Speaker 3: This has to be a Deon Lewis game, right, you

612
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: would think.

613
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Speaker 5: But it's tough because there's just so much there's no

614
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 5: kind of rhyme or reason to if they're going to

615
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 5: use him or not by the goal line, which can

616
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 5: create variants where Derek Henry ends up getting a touchdown.

617
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Speaker 5: So if he hasn't always kind of came through with

618
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 5: those targets like you'd expect on a consistent basis in

619
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Speaker 5: some of these games. So for example against Indianapolis, even

620
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Speaker 5: in a blowout, he didn't really do anything in the

621
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Speaker 5: passing game, which was kind of surprising.

622
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Speaker 1: So it sets up well as a Dean Lewis game.

623
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Speaker 5: But I think if you're playing like a DFS tournament,

624
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: you always have to kind of consider Henry in the

625
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: same way you kind of have to consider Garrett Blunt

626
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 5: like on that Thursday slate, even though he's the underdog

627
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 5: and playing a tough defense. It's just you have a

628
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 5: guy that has that multi touchdown upside because they get

629
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 5: work on the goal line. Then those guys are always

630
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 5: kind of the lower owned tournament plays that you can

631
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 5: pivot to.

632
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely on a full PPR site like DraftKings as well,

633
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: where you just don't expect guys like Henry and Blunt

634
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: to go off until, of course they do on Thanksgiving.

635
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: All right, Now, this Houston pass offense, they replaced will

636
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: Fuller obviously Torn acl with Damarius Thomas from the Broncos,

637
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: so it hasn't gone all that great to start. Damaris

638
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: Thomas has three targets in two weeks. Really basically three

639
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: targets I think in the first two quarters of that

640
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: game against the Broncos where they schemed them a couple

641
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 3: looks early on not really much since I'm really just

642
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: concerned about this offense in general without will Fuller. And

643
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: we've talked about this year, but Watson's now had five

644
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: career starts without and he's only gone for over two

645
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: and or fifteen passing yards and one of those, I mean,

646
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Speaker 3: I feel like we're almost looking at some like Dak

647
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: Prescott as passing numbers here with Fuller in or out

648
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: of the lineup. With Fuller, Watson's averaging nine point oh

649
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: four yards per attempt without he goes all the way

650
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: down to six point nine to two. Chris, this is

651
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: a sample sized thing, or I mean, are these legitimate

652
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: concerns about the Texans offense not really having that explosive

653
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: factor moving forward.

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00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 5: There's kind of layers to it, so I think it

655
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 5: is a little bit of a sample sized thing. I

656
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 5: think if in fantasy you're concerned, I think if you're

657
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 5: the Texans, you're not that concern because I think the

658
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: bottom line with Deshaun Watson is that he's.

659
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Speaker 1: A really good quarterback and.

660
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Speaker 5: He'll be able to adapt to playing without Fuller. On

661
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: these last two games, so he's averaged eight point eight

662
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 5: eight yards per attempt and eight point sixty seven yards

663
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 5: per attempt, so I mean, that's right there with his

664
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Speaker 5: uh that's actually above his career average of eight point

665
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Speaker 5: four overall. So you haven't really seen a drop off

666
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Speaker 5: in these last two games. What's really going on and

667
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Speaker 5: why you worry a little bit in fantasy is just

668
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: because they're I think, making a concerted effort to throw

669
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Speaker 5: the ball less. And I mean you've seen Watson's attempts

670
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Speaker 5: over these last five games twenty five, twenty four, twenty

671
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: twenty four, twenty four, and so you know some of

672
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: that is that, you know, Watson is an efficient quarterback

673
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Speaker 5: most of the time, and he doesn't need a ton

674
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Speaker 5: of attempts to rack up yards, especially when he has

675
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Speaker 5: fuller but at the end of the day, when you're

676
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: throwing that few of the passes, and you know, he's

677
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: not running particularly a lot either. You know, seven attempts

678
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 5: in you know, four weeks ago and then these last

679
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: three weeks, you know, one, six, three, So it's it

680
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: hasn't quite been the consistent game won the ground for

681
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Speaker 5: him either, So he kind of gets a little downgrade

682
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Speaker 5: and fantasy to that next tier. He's not that a

683
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 5: weak quarterback one anymore. But I think from this Houston's

684
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Speaker 5: offensive standpoint, I think they'll be able to adjust. I

685
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Speaker 5: don't think Thomas is going to be a huge factor,

686
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 5: but I could see him getting some targets this week

687
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 5: because you know, Bill Ryan came out and said, hey,

688
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 5: you know, it's been tough to kind of integrate him,

689
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 5: so that probably means it's top of mind and they'll

690
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Speaker 5: try to get him going.

691
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he said, I mean they've won seven

692
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: straight games, so obviously whatever they're doing is working. I'm

693
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: not hating on the Texans team at this point, but look,

694
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Speaker 3: I mean, they only have more than twenty three points

695
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: one of their last six games. He mentioned the pass

696
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: attempts I mean Watson only had a fewer than twenty

697
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: five pass attempts and two of his first twelve stars.

698
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Speaker 3: I mean he's gone five straight. We've mentioned this, but

699
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: really ever since kind of Cowboys beat the crap out

700
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 3: of him on Sunday Night Football and he had that

701
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: kind of long and rib injuries, they've just really been

702
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: taking it easy on him and behind that offensive line.

703
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's.

704
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Speaker 3: Probably a good idea to do so, and with them

705
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Speaker 3: taking it easy on them, they have fully embraced this

706
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: kind of two headed rushing attack.

707
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Speaker 2: Lamar Miller is still the future guy.

708
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Speaker 3: He's had at least fourteen touches in every game this season,

709
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Speaker 3: but Alfred Blue has been getting the rock too. He's

710
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Speaker 3: had at least eight touches in each of his last

711
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Speaker 3: six games. I mean, with or without Miller, they're they're

712
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Speaker 3: utilizing both these guys and Blues definitely a candidate for

713
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Speaker 3: to steal some goal one carries. Titians have been a

714
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Speaker 3: pass final defense. Their ninth versus run Dboa twenty fourth

715
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Speaker 3: with the pass is you know, one game slate here

716
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Speaker 3: is the Leviage play and maybe going with Alphad Blue

717
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Speaker 3: and helping vultures.

718
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Speaker 2: Miller once or.

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Speaker 1: Twice, absolutely, because he votes.

720
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Speaker 5: There's Miller not just in scoring position, but just sometimes

721
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: in general, you know, in the natural flow of the game.

722
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Speaker 5: So you know, there's been games where Miller, you know,

723
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Speaker 5: getting you know, seventy eighty ninety percent of the carries

724
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Speaker 5: in the backfield.

725
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Speaker 1: But you mentioned it. You know, Blu's consistently mixing in for.

726
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Speaker 5: Carries and sometimes that ends up being closer to fifty

727
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Speaker 5: percent of the carries.

728
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Speaker 1: So it's all about, you know, market share.

729
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Speaker 5: It's one of those stats that you can sort by

730
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Speaker 5: on the Fantasy Labs model and you can like look

731
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Speaker 5: at market share of touchdowns or market share of carries

732
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Speaker 5: or whatever not. And I think that's really important, especially

733
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Speaker 5: on like one game dfstialates, because whoever is kind of

734
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Speaker 5: hogging a production that's going to most of the time

735
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Speaker 5: inversely correlate with the other guys. So if it's you know,

736
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 5: you mentioned it, you got all the leverage here with

737
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Speaker 5: playing blue. But that said, I think Miller is a

738
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Speaker 5: very good play, especially in like the captain slot on drafting,

739
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 5: because if you look at it, kind of the most

740
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Speaker 5: common lineup construction you see in a lot of the

741
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Speaker 5: optimal lineups or the lineups to end winning the tournaments

742
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 5: has the favorite teams running back in the captain slot

743
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 5: and it kind of builds around that. So I think

744
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 5: Miller's still a good plays as a home favorite running

745
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 5: back for sure.

746
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Speaker 3: We've seen Miller go for at least eighty five or

747
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: more rushing urge and three in the last four weeks,

748
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: So really, I feel like right when we started again,

749
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: the news that Dante Foreman was gonna return to practice

750
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: somewhat soon kind of got Miller to get his butt

751
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Speaker 3: back into it and get going again. So all right,

752
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: now we're gonna look ahead to an awesome edition of

753
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Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football, or so we think we got the

754
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: Saints and the Cowboys. Saints are currently seven and a

755
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Speaker 3: half point favorites in Jerry World, and the over under

756
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: is wrestling at fifty three and a half points after

757
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: opening at fifty one.

758
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Speaker 2: And a half.

759
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Speaker 3: So the main question with the Cowboys these days is

760
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Speaker 3: the Maari Cooper effect, and I mean it has looked

761
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: pretty freaking legit. We've seen Zeko Elliott go for one

762
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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty point eight total yards and a touchdown

763
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: per game in these four games with Cooper. Dak Prescott

764
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Speaker 3: has seen his yards per tempt go from six point

765
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Speaker 3: nine and weeks one through eight to seven point eight

766
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Speaker 3: in these last four weeks.

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Speaker 2: Of course, always a threat to run the ball.

768
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Speaker 3: Chris, what are your thoughts are on this Cowboys offense

769
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Speaker 3: with Kinn Cooper. I guess at least forcing defenses to

770
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Speaker 3: respect that deep ball or do you think maybe he

771
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: just had a good run against the Eagles and Redskins

772
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Speaker 3: and it still maybe a vertically limited Cowboys offense.

773
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: I think Cooper really hopes this offense because it does

775
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Speaker 5: everything that they needed. It gives them everything that not

776
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Speaker 5: everything that they need, but gives them what they kind

777
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Speaker 5: of lost with with des Bryant going away and never

778
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Speaker 5: having somebody to replace him, which is somebody for Dat

779
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Speaker 5: Prescott to just kind of feed the football too, and

780
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Speaker 5: somebody that makes them respect, makes defenses as you mentioned

781
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Speaker 5: respect Ezekiel Elliott, and I think you know, having a

782
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Speaker 5: receiver that can you know, do both of those things.

783
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Speaker 5: That's not just like let's say a decoy who who

784
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Speaker 5: can clear out and maybe make defenses respect Zeke, but

785
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Speaker 5: you know it's still not someone for that to go

786
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Speaker 5: with the ball.

787
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Speaker 1: I don't think that would help quite as much. But

788
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Speaker 1: the fact that Cooper is kind of able to do

789
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Speaker 1: that and get open.

790
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: Enough to draw a lot of targets, it's key because remember,

791
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 5: targets aren't just a usage that in the way that

792
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: like a coach kind of draws up a running play

793
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 5: and running back gets an attempt and you can kind

794
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 5: of rely on it. Like a target is somewhat skill

795
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 5: based in that you know, when you're running and you're

796
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 5: competing against you know, two, three, four other guys who

797
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 5: are also running routes, and when you're able to draw

798
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 5: a target, you know, and then not only draw a target,

799
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Speaker 5: but catch the football and turn it into positive plays.

800
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Speaker 1: Like that's obviously the essence of football.

801
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Speaker 5: And you know, Cooper's twenty two catches in thirty two targets.

802
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 5: He's got three hundred forty nine yards three touchdowns already,

803
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 5: and that's just in four games and twenty four percent

804
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 5: of the targets thirty three percent of the air yards.

805
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Speaker 1: I think that's big for Dak.

806
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 5: You know, those thirty three percent of his air yards

807
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: changes his whole statistical outlook and it changes this offense.

808
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: So you know, kudos to them for kind of you know,

809
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 5: They got criticized for for what they spent on Cooper,

810
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: but he's look worth it. And I think the more

811
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 5: and more that you know, Cooper's obviously had his issues

812
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 5: with drops and whatnot, but and I mean, the more

813
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 5: and more you look at it, doesn't it look.

814
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Speaker 1: Like Cooper's struggles were probably a lot more on Derek

815
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: Carr than probably anyone thought.

816
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

817
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: I mean, Derek Carr seems to keep getting all these

818
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 3: passes like I just don't get it, man, Like, no,

819
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: no nine figure quartermack has ever showne less with more

820
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: than Derek Carr. They surrounded with one of the league's

821
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 3: highest paid offensive lines.

822
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: He's he's got.

823
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: Marik Trooper is just bawling out with Dak Prescott, who

824
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: is the blot of everyone's joke a month ago, and

825
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: now Daxter just playing better than we've ever even seen

826
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 3: car play a little bit. So yeah, I'm with it there, Dude,

827
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Speaker 3: I don't get it. And the worst part was, like

828
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Speaker 3: CARDI even give Cooper a chance to beat this, like

829
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: he was feeding Michael Crabtree and Jared Cook instead of

830
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Speaker 3: this guy.

831
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Speaker 5: Well yeah, and that's the thing with Cars that so

832
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 5: he combines kind of the worst qualities of Alex Smith

833
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 5: with and you know that's not a knock on Alex Smith.

834
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 5: I mean, we know what Alex Smith's limitations are. He's

835
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 5: not aggressive, he doesn't like to throw into tight windows.

836
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 5: And you know Derek Carr is the same way. He

837
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 5: likes to get rid of the really quickly, and he

838
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 5: combines that we don't movement ability. That's really I think

839
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 5: the killer because like Alex Smith, when when a play

840
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: breaks down, he doesn't automatically always have to chuck it short.

841
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: He can pick up first.

842
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 5: Downs with his legs or get to the end zone

843
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: with his legs, like Derek Carr is not giving you that.

844
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 5: So he's just a below average quarterback and his upside

845
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 5: is kind of limited as well because of that.

846
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Speaker 1: And you said he just didn't give Cooper a chance.

847
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: There's a play I think a week or two ago,

848
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 3: where was a fourth and three that the Raiders needed

849
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: car like it was a little bit of pressure in

850
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: the middle of pocket and he just took two steps

851
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: and just chucked it into the dirt and it was

852
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: almost like a stadium wide like what the hell is

853
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: this guy doing? Type of grom But man, enough of

854
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: Derek Carr for the Saints Cowboys review. Now, looking back

855
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: to Zeke here for a second, Like I said, Man,

856
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he is just absolutely killing it.

857
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: I mean really just looks.

858
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 3: Faster and more athletic. Obviously having him maybe a less

859
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: guy in the box will do that for you. But

860
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: I think we saw that a little bit last year

861
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: as well, kind of slow starting the season. But I

862
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: mean he is rolling now. But we got this Saints

863
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: run defense. Nobody's even gained over seventy yards on him

864
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: this year. They've held girly to sixty eight, mixing the

865
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: sixty one sakon the forty four.

866
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: That's not like they haven't been tested.

867
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: We talked a little bit on here about how you

868
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 3: know the Saints have had these rough games on defense

869
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: against the Bucks, Fougus, and Rams.

870
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: Other than that, though, they've.

871
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: Pretty much held everyone, earning twenty three points and uh

872
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: looked pretty solid. Do you think the Cowboys year can

873
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: win this matchup with Zeke in the run game?

874
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 5: I don't think they have to anymore because they've kind

875
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 5: of figured out that, Okay, we can throw the ball

876
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 5: to this guy too. That's been I think a real

877
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 5: the top reason that Zeke has.

878
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: Been able to kind of get back on track. Is

879
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: that he's been.

880
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 5: Able to offset any type of slow start in a

881
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 5: run game with these receiving targets and with Cooper on

882
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 5: the team, Zeke is up over a twenty percent target here.

883
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 5: He's at twenty one percent of the targets and that's

884
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: huge for a running back, and that's huge for him.

885
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 5: So if he starts getting stuffed for whatever reason, I'm

886
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: not I don't think that will necessarily happen. But even

887
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 5: if he starts getting stuffed in this game, they can

888
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: throw him the football and I think that will that'll

889
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 5: keep on track.

890
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: But New Orleans, you know, they give them a lot

891
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: of I mean, their defense.

892
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 5: Is really coming on strong. They're able to defend the

893
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 5: tight ends really well. They stopped playing MANSI tail unless

894
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 5: there's like a team that runs a lot of double

895
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 5: tight end looks and stuff like that. So this New

896
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 5: Orleans defense in general, I think we have to take

897
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 5: a little bit more seriously. But I'm curious Ian as

898
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 5: to what your thoughts on, Like, do you think that

899
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 5: this because like we were used to talking about the

900
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: Saints offense in the Dome and how good it is,

901
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 5: but now the defense also benefits from being in the dome.

902
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: Do you think they travel well?

903
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 5: You know, do you think they have as much success

904
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 5: as they had against the Falcons in Jerry World.

905
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're any better just because they're

906
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: in a dome, but maybe it does at least give

907
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: them a chance to kind of flash the athleticism, because

908
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: you do look at this defense, at least now versus

909
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: beginning of the season, there's at the very least you

910
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: got more talent on these three levels.

911
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Eli Apple hasn't had.

912
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: The greatest start to his career, but this is still

913
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: a guy that was picked tenth overall. Arms down to

914
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: his freaking knees. He's ran a four to three or

915
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: four to fourth the combine. He's across from Marshawn Lottimore,

916
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: another top twelve pick got I mean, basically Ohio State

917
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 3: secondary down there with Bomb Bell at safety.

918
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: I mean, all these guys.

919
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: Are pretty highly talented college prospects that have come out

920
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: in the league and at least flashed that same high

921
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 3: level ability, even if it hasn't been the most consistent.

922
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: So I think it does make sense that we've seen

923
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: this defense kind of begin to gel a little bit

924
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: better as we're going on. But I'm not sure if

925
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean just being in Jerry Roll particularly, I don't know,

926
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: we haven't really seen Jerry will be a big home

927
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: field advantage from years past.

928
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah.

929
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 5: I mean I was just more so thinking of like

930
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 5: we've we've seen the things d come on these last

931
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 5: few games. More so, like especially that game against the Falcons.

932
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: You know they did it at home.

933
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 5: I think that it's easier to get pressure when you're

934
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 5: at home, you've got the crowd behind you. So I'm

935
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 5: interested to see, you know, if they can kind of

936
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 5: get as much pressure because they're they're leaving their corners.

937
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: Those guys you talked.

938
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 5: About and man courage. I mean ey Apple, you know

939
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 5: he was one on one a why at the time.

940
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: Sometimes they give him help over the top, and we've

941
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 5: we've had them more alone on an island too. So

942
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 5: it's kind of interesting to see will they be able

943
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: to get as much pressure in this game where and

944
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 5: continue to play the stout defense that we've seen, Because

945
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 5: if so, I mean, they they have to be like

946
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. I mean, they are a super Bowl frontrunner,

947
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 5: but that defense can play well. Again, I mean this

948
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: team is so scary.

949
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

950
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: Man, the cornerback situation has been a little hard to

951
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: figure out since they got Eli, because the first three

952
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: weeks they just stuck a lot of More on one

953
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: side and elon the other.

954
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: They stayed there.

955
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: In these last two weeks, they faced a team with

956
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: a good enough number one receiver to kind of start shadowing.

957
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: I think you kind of called this last week actually

958
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: where I think what we saw on Thanksgiving was a

959
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: lot of more shadowed Ridley, and then they had Eli

960
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: shadow Julio with constant safety. You know, they bracketed him.

961
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: So it's more or less some double team on Julio

962
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: all the time. Do you think there's even a number

963
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 3: two receiver on the Cowboys worthy of that or could

964
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: we almost see just like a bracket on Cooper with a

965
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: lot of more.

966
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that you probably see I would think

967
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: you see that unless they kind of go I mean,

968
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: you mentioned Apple's length and kind of you know, his

969
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 5: physical ability. I mean you could very well put Apple

970
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 5: on Cooper as well. So I mean, I don't I

971
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 5: think if if Apple's playing at that level where you're

972
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 5: actually questioning what they're going to do, Justice a real

973
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 5: step up for them on defense. So I think I

974
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: don't think Michael Gallop warrants like any type of special treatment.

975
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: I think they'll eat.

976
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 5: I think they actually might feel comfortable doing that again,

977
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 5: where though they'll leave Lattimore on an islands with Gallup

978
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 5: because I don't think they'll be scared of that matchup

979
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: at all.

980
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you can just guarantee you're gonna

981
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: race one guy in the field of play, not a

982
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: bad deal for any defense.

983
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll go ahead and look at the Saints

984
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball.

985
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: Now, first thing we always got to talk about here

986
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: is this Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram two running back system.

987
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: I will just say I've never seen two running backs

988
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: just enjoy watching each other each other's score as much

989
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: I'm watching these Saints games.

990
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: It's just a joy. I mean, it looks like their

991
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: entire team is just having the time of their lives.

992
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: And why wouldn't they. They're killing everybody.

993
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: So anyway, since this week five by, we've seen Kamara

994
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: be the lead back. He's averaging forty two snast for

995
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: game compared to thirty for Ingram. But I mean, much

996
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: like last season, both these guys are producing and one

997
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: of the best offenses in the league. But Chris, what

998
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: are your thoughts here for these two running backs, specifically

999
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: Thursday Night?

1000
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 5: I think you gotta like him because even though I

1001
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 5: guess it makes you uncomfortable in fantasy and dfs when

1002
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 5: you have this uncertain split and you know touchdown variants,

1003
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 5: especially the fewer touches you get can hit. You know

1004
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: you don't miss out on that touchdown, you have a

1005
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 5: shaky fantasy performance. But I mean the upside of both

1006
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 5: of these guys is enhancing. The floors are enhanced a

1007
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: little too, because this team is just running so much

1008
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 5: so Drew Brees has just been so efficient that he

1009
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 5: hasn't needed a lot of pass attempts to really put

1010
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 5: up big numbers. But I think we kind of saw

1011
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 5: that on Thanksgiving where he had the four passing touchdowns

1012
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 5: and he didn't even hit two hundred yards passing, So

1013
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 5: you know.

1014
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of remarkable.

1015
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting that in twenty eighteen we're sitting

1016
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 5: here talking about offensive explosion. It's a passing league more

1017
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 5: than ever, Passing yards per attempt are up, passing touchdowns

1018
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 5: per game up at a historical level, So we're talking

1019
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 5: about all that, but there's been these few teams that

1020
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 5: have kind of gone back to the run game and

1021
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 5: kind of been these very low volume passing teams. Seahawks,

1022
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 5: It's worked for them, you know, So Wilson's still throwing touchdowns.

1023
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: They're still winning games in.

1024
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: New Orleans as well, where Drew Brees isn't really attempting

1025
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 5: a lot of passes. They're they're using Taysom Hill to

1026
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 5: run the ball. That you know, they has these two

1027
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 5: backs that they're trying to get double digit carries each

1028
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 5: game with double digit touches, and I mean, it's it's

1029
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 5: crazy to see, but New Orleans is not really a

1030
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 5: passing team. So I think that's what really helps those

1031
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: two guys, you know, Ingram and Kamara, is that you know,

1032
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 5: this is a team that's committed to the run, and

1033
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: they're good enough that you don't expect them to just

1034
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 5: fall behind in a game and have a real bad

1035
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 5: game script to where they're not going to be able

1036
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 5: to run the ball. So I think, yeah, you continue

1037
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 5: to ride with these guys.

1038
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: So at least in the first couple of weeks with

1039
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: the Saints offense, when we did see him throwing the ball,

1040
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: we could basically ensure it was going to Michael Thomas

1041
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: or Alvin Kamara.

1042
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: Really wasn't the.

1043
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: Case this last Thursday when we saw Trey Kwan Smith

1044
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: was out with a foot injury, obviously I would be

1045
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: one of the top injuries to monitor for this game

1046
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: going to Thursday, but without Trey Quon involved, Michael Thomas

1047
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: had six targets. Dan Arnold six foot five two and

1048
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: twenty two pounds under out a free agent, also had

1049
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: six targets. Mat Keith Kirkwood with three, Ingram had two,

1050
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: Ben Watson on two, and then Kamara, Tommy Lee Lewis,

1051
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: and Austin Carr had one. Chris, do you see anything

1052
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: here in this one game target distribution that you think

1053
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: it's too telling or you think kind of behind Michael Thomas,

1054
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 3: it's just going to be a volatile situation week two week.

1055
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a vital situation week two week.

1056
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: I think one of my followers on Twitter asked about

1057
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 5: the you know, what was going on with Alvin Kamara

1058
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 5: and his kind of decreased usage in the passing game,

1059
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 5: which I thought was kind of surprising going against the

1060
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 5: Atlanta Falcons.

1061
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Of all teams.

1062
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 5: What you see kind of and I think this goes

1063
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 5: back to what we talked about earlier with these coaches

1064
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 5: is that they want to break tendencies. And I think

1065
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 5: on air on the on the telecast of that Saints game,

1066
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 5: they were talking about how a lot of times defenses

1067
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: are being forced to treat Alvin Kamara like a wide receiver.

1068
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 5: You know, he's lining up in the slaughter out wide,

1069
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: he can kind of motion back in and so a

1070
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 5: lot of times he's treated like a wide receiver. They

1071
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: end up putting extra defenses back on the field or

1072
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: they're just staying in nickel.

1073
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: And when you.

1074
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 5: Have that, Alvin Kamara is a really powerful that runner

1075
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 5: as well, really strong and so you know, really good

1076
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 5: at you know, balanced bouncing off tackles inside as well.

1077
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 5: So the Saints have kind of just been riding that way.

1078
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 5: We just kind of running him inside and not using

1079
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 5: him on the perimeter as much as a receiver. So

1080
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 5: we'll see I would imagine that at some point that's

1081
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: going to kind of reverse as well. But we'll see

1082
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: if that happens in this game against Dallas. But I

1083
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 5: think Arnold and Kirkwood, those two guys stand out because

1084
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 5: Arnold has been getting more usage in the passing game

1085
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 5: and Ben Watson snaps have been getting scaled back. Josh

1086
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 5: Hill is always going to be the boker and play,

1087
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: you know, fifty sixty percent of the snash mostly as

1088
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 5: a blocker because they have those running backs that they

1089
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 5: can put in routes. But you know, Arnold is kind

1090
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 5: of their go to receiving guy, and I think Kirkwood

1091
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 5: is going to kind of be that guy that could

1092
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 5: maybe pop like Willie Sneed did a couple of years back,

1093
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 5: where you know, just kind of a guy that you

1094
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: know on the field with Drew Brees a lot, and

1095
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 5: you know, good things happening here on the field with

1096
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: Drew Brees a lot.

1097
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: Can't go wrong there, that's for sure. All right.

1098
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: That would be a fun game looking forward to that.

1099
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: We're going to wrap this up with our weekly bet.

1100
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: Last week we were betting on that rams cheap game

1101
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: from Heaven. Oh my goodness, Offensive twenty eighteen football is

1102
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: pretty fun, man.

1103
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: But we're some defensive scores in that game too.

1104
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: It wasn't It wasn't just all uh moving up and

1105
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: down the field, but a lot of it wasn't that

1106
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: it's okay anyway. I took the over in that one,

1107
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: got a much needed against the spread w Unfortunately, I

1108
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: picked Todd Gurley as my high scoring player and he's

1109
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: somehow happy the year when they score fifty two points. Chris,

1110
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: I believe you pushed on Rams minus three and you know,

1111
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm not sure which player you took, but he surely

1112
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: more scored more points than Gurley. What's your first pick

1113
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: here for Texans Titans.

1114
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: I took my homes.

1115
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure Texans Titans. Who I got a player

1116
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 5: I am going with? I think I gotta go with

1117
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins here. I think, you know, highest ceiling player

1118
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 5: on the slate. I would say, you know mentioned Watkins.

1119
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 5: Targets attempts have been down, but Hopkins has still been

1120
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 5: dominating that target share in Houston, in dominating the air

1121
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 5: yards as well.

1122
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: And you mentioned it.

1123
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 5: Mary's Thomas not really major factor as far so you

1124
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 5: know happens thirty eight percent target share since week nine,

1125
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna row with with.

1126
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 3: It feels like Nuke's just in a tier above anyone

1127
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: else in this game. From a fantasy perspective, I'm going

1128
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: to go with Dion Lewis. Hope Derek Henry doesn't vulture

1129
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 3: him too bad and we can get some of those

1130
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 3: check downs. Hopefully the Texans get off to a little

1131
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: lead and get some good Deon Lewis game script against

1132
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: the spread, I'm going to take the Titans plus four.

1133
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 3: I'm still just not quite sold on this Houston team.

1134
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 3: I know they've run off seventh straight. This defense is

1135
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: really scary. When you got Watt, Clowney and Merciless healthy

1136
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: in that front seven. I mean, that's a solid group,

1137
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 3: and I think that group has propped up and underwhelming

1138
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 3: a group of cornerbacks. I don't know personally, I think

1139
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 3: defensive lines are way more responsible for cupboards than your secondary.

1140
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: Is just tough to guard NFL receivers for that long.

1141
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, Texas something good. But you know

1142
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: we've already seen this spread drop a point in half

1143
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: and Mary Pierce at least be healthy enough, so youennific

1144
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 3: Titans don't win.

1145
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: I think they keep it within a field goal.

1146
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good call. I mean, Houston

1147
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: just so many one score games, it's kind of.

1148
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 5: Been I think that's why people are so skeptical about them.

1149
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 5: I still think They're one of the better teams in

1150
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 5: the AFC, kind of one of the sleepers in the AFC,

1151
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 5: but it's hard to really get to gauge on them

1152
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 5: because of those one score games. But I think I'm

1153
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 5: gonna go with the with the under forty one and

1154
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: a half here. Forty one is, I believe, still the

1155
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: most common score in an NFL game, So Houston not

1156
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 5: quite as explosive without Fuller and not passing quite as much.

1157
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 5: So buying that with Tennessee's kind of sluggish tendencies and

1158
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 5: they usually play pretty solid defense, I think you have

1159
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 5: the recipe for a low scoring game here.

1160
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 3: All right, that'll be one to check out Monday night.

1161
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: Thank you every for tuning in. This was the Action

1162
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: Network NFL podcast. We're always here Sunday night. We hope

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00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: you enjoyed.

1164
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 2: Chris any last words to get thish

1165
00:48:51,960 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Money, No pos