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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up Suck. What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always,

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Speaker 1: joined by the voice of the Chargers, Matt Muddy Smith.

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Speaker 1: Bolts improved the four and three beating the Saints pretty

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Speaker 1: sadly and ugly game money, but the second half the

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Speaker 1: offense came alive and so many different things to talk about.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, justin Herbert looks healthy, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest difference over this last two

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Speaker 1: three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you talk about Greg Roman offense is

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Speaker 2: the ones that have been successful, the Stanford offenses with

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Speaker 2: Andrew Luck, the forty nine er offenses with both Alex

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Speaker 2: Smith and Colin Kaepernick, and of course the Ravens you

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Speaker 2: know offense with Lamar Jackson. And you've got a quarterback

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Speaker 2: that runs, you know that that threat helps open things up.

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Speaker 2: It predicates big plays, and I think you're starting to

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Speaker 2: see that now with Herbert. Now, look, they're not designed runs,

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Speaker 2: and that's different than what he was doing with Smith

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Speaker 2: and Kaepernick and Jackson, but it's it's such a huge

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Speaker 2: weapon when you have a quarterback. It's not only as

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Speaker 2: athletic as justin. But on that first run that ignited

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Speaker 2: the sideline. I'm sure you saw the Chargers social media,

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Speaker 2: you know, posting a lot of clips and Khalil Mack

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Speaker 2: and you see that whole sideline Morgan Fox and like

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Speaker 2: that does a lot, especially because the offense was stuck

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Speaker 2: in the mud a play like that choosing to take

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Speaker 2: on Tyron Matthew and that's the difference from having a

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Speaker 2: guy that's you know, six ' one and one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety pounds and six six two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: pounds that you're able to do that. And I do

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Speaker 2: think it was a catalyst to really kind of get

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Speaker 2: things moving on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Talking about hell of a game, Matt Muney Smith had

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Speaker 1: a heck of a game. NFL films, Yeah, Chargers social accounts,

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Speaker 1: Listen the labmaca the second Lab mccaukey touchdown, and we'll

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Speaker 1: get into Ladd and just you know, you and I

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Speaker 1: talked about him two weeks ago about how he's this

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Speaker 1: close to breaking a few and and sure enough he

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Speaker 1: did on Sunday. But dude, you had an awesome call

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Speaker 1: that and just so many, so many throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of the game, and to see Khalil miked up and

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Speaker 1: joking about Ladidi and everything. It was cool to see

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Speaker 1: kind of the team starting to come together a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think sometimes we forget that this

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Speaker 1: is a new coaching staff and a new defense, a

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Speaker 1: new offense, and these guys are still learning each other

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Speaker 1: and kind of building towards something. And the fact that

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Speaker 1: Justin's healthy now and you're starting to see I think

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Speaker 1: the defense and offense kind of compliment each other. The

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Speaker 1: second half was like a best illustration. I think you

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Speaker 1: can draw up for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it takes a minute. You when you think

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Speaker 2: about how Herbert operates and runs the quarterback position, and

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Speaker 2: how he throws and throws with anticipation and lets that

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Speaker 2: ball go before a receiver is out of his break

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Speaker 2: is coming. You know, two weeks ago with Josh Palmer

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Speaker 2: coming back to the ball, let that thing go. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's still drinking down the field assuming that, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna break this off and come back five yards

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Speaker 2: and gret like it's hard to do that in six games.

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Speaker 2: You know, with Ladd, You're you're still like, hey, if

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Speaker 2: I cut this thing loose while Lad's not watching him.

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Speaker 2: But the defender's got his back to me. I know

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Speaker 2: he's not gonna intercept it, but I'm gonna give it

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Speaker 2: a shot and see if Lad's gonna flip around and

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Speaker 2: get this thing on his head. And sure enough he does.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what we're talking about, Like, that's

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Speaker 2: what you're kind of speaking to when you say, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: offense takes a little bit of time. Defense isn't quite

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Speaker 2: you know, defense isn't quite as much of an adjustment

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Speaker 2: as offense because offense there's so much trust and there's

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Speaker 2: chemistry and when's he gonna let the ball go? Where

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Speaker 2: do I need to be in my breaks? I've got

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Speaker 2: a choice route, Where does he typically think my choice

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Speaker 2: is going to be. It's all of those things, and

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Speaker 2: I think you see, you know, coming off a game

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Speaker 2: game before. And that's just encouraging, you know, It's just

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Speaker 2: it's so encouraging to watch, like, hey, it's it's not

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Speaker 2: something that's going to be. You make a mistake and

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Speaker 2: you build off it. Failures create successes, and that's that's

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Speaker 2: what we saw in this game from countless players.

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Speaker 1: You know, just to take you guys inside the locker

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Speaker 1: think it just kind of speaks to what you were

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Speaker 1: And for just In Money, it almost felt like it

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Speaker 1: Billy and Jalen Giton are catching big, big passes like

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Speaker 1: Jalen Rieger and Joshua Palmer. Simmi Fojoko put up on

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Speaker 1: his on his Instagram the screenshot of both feet down

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Speaker 1: on his touchdown too. So the fact that Justin is

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Speaker 1: keep in mind that we still are waiting for DJ

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Speaker 1: still a work in progress. But again, I just go

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Speaker 1: back to the health of Justin Herbert Man, the fact

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Speaker 1: that he can move make all the throws. That throw

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Speaker 1: that he made the lad Man. Not many people that

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Speaker 1: second one in the end zone that you called, Not

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Speaker 1: I think it's an exciting time for Chargers fans to say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what the offense can look like. And I

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Speaker 1: will say this, it's the Saints defense. They were the

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Speaker 1: advantage of those defenses. But I think it builds confidence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, the Arizona defense had been struggling mightily and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot. I love that you brought that up

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Speaker 2: said it repeatedly. I said it during the game, and

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Speaker 2: because it really is upsetting to me, and it shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be because it's not Well, I guess it should because

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Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with me. Well, I guess

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Speaker 2: it does I'm talking in circles now. I want to

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Speaker 2: call touchdowns, you know, I want to call explosive plays.

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Speaker 2: People get excited and it gets people juiced up. And

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Speaker 2: those are the calls that end up on NFL films

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Speaker 2: me just make sure I pull this up. So I

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Speaker 2: go to Simmy's page on ESPN dot com, the first

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Speaker 2: highlight is from Stanford from twenty twenty. That's the highlight

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Speaker 2: that's on Simmy's page. You know, his career numbers are

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Speaker 2: one touchdown with a long of thirty. He's got fifteen

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Speaker 2: targets this year, six receptions. He's caught ten passes in

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Speaker 2: makes an incredible play. He adjusts and contorts, his body,

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Speaker 2: that's got ten career receptions in his fifth season here

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Speaker 2: like or fourth season. It's inexcusable. It just is. It

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Speaker 2: is inexcusable for seven officials to miss it and not

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Speaker 2: It happened right in front of us. The back judge

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Speaker 2: And I even said it on the air, if you

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Speaker 2: we're going to get a look at this, And that's

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Speaker 2: what should have happened. You got one guy that says no,

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Speaker 2: You got one guy that says yes. You guys are absolved.

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Speaker 2: And now it goes to replay, and the replay would

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Speaker 2: have had his second touchdown to his career, a highlight

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football, all of that, and instead he gets nothing.

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Speaker 2: And the NFL has got to stop digging their feet

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Speaker 2: We can't take anything from college. We've got to do

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Speaker 2: this right. Just do what college does. Every single play

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Speaker 2: There's no stupid challenge flag and wheeling a freaking monitor

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Speaker 2: onto the field. It's a waste of time and it

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Speaker 2: should not happen. Get a get two people in the booth,

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Speaker 2: and you took that moment away from him. And it's

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Speaker 2: a shame. It just flat out is it really really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me give you another example. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: first thing I gravitate towards is, you know, the offense

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Speaker 1: juiced up. They score a touchdown on that drive, and

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Speaker 1: because it was ugly in the first quarter. Man going

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Speaker 1: that did something. Man, that that that got everybody a

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Speaker 2: Can't do that, but you do it. Yeah, don't you

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Speaker 2: have to flag it? I mean you have to flag,

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Speaker 2: you know, I know, but it's worth the flag. And

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Speaker 2: that's kind of what we said Chris on the on

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Speaker 2: a nice play by jk and Ick have a shovel

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Speaker 2: it's not worth the thirteen yards. Take the double flag,

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Speaker 2: the offsetting, and they end up getting a touchdown on

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Speaker 2: the drive anyway, and Boseman does what you're supposed to do,

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Speaker 1: But it's it's it's blatant. I know. You mean, it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we see we see players get suspended for less.

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Speaker 1: Let's just be honest. So I don't know as we

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Speaker 1: take this on Halloween, I haven't looked into if he

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Speaker 2: It's good question. Yeah, I would have expected it would

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Speaker 1: Young who was benched, Now he's back. Justin Fields who

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00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 1: was benched. Mahomes obviously held him to seventeen points. Bow

431
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 1: Knicks rookie up twenty three to nothing. At one point,

432
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray got loose for a couple of plays and

433
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: that was the difference, and then Spencer Rattler, a rookie

434
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: back up Sunday James Winston. Week after that, we either

435
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: got Will Levis or Mason Rudolph under center. And then

436
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: it starts to get a little real with Joe Burrow

437
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson and Kirk Cousins and Patrick Mahomes and

438
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. So taking advantage, taking advantage of the opposing quarterbacks.

439
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: The Chargers for the most part, have done that. This

440
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: is why the next two weeks I think are so

441
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Speaker 1: critically important for the team beat the teams you're supposed

442
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: to beat when you have a better quarterback and a

443
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: better head coach. And I think over the next two

444
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: weeks it's gonna be am paired for this team to

445
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: get to six and three as they start to hit

446
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: this stretch of the season where the quarterbacks are on

447
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: that same playing field as justin.

448
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, defense is tough, man, It's just it's tough

449
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: to play defense in this league. Now you've got incredibly

450
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: creative cordon, and you've got rules that favor the offense.

451
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: And I think kind of what you're speaking to when

452
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: you look at the yardage total, it's funny. It almost

453
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 2: kind of plays into what Brandon Staley used to sell, right,

454
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: which is force them, don't allow these five play scoring drives,

455
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 2: these explosives. You force them to have to work their

456
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: way down the field. And it's kind of what this

457
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: defense has done, right. So, yeah, you've got this Alvin

458
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: Kamara explosive, but then you follow that up with a

459
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: holding penalty, or you follow that up with a tackle

460
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 2: for loss, and you follow that up with you know,

461
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: a sack. I mean, they have five sacks in this game,

462
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: and they had three holding penalties in this game. And

463
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: it's like, that's what you have to do, is okay, yeah,

464
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: you got us there, But then you followed up immediately

465
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: with a negative play and now they're out of field

466
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: goal range and now you're pinning your ears back. And

467
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: now well but you know, Spencer Rattler, they just they

468
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: ran draws on third and long or these dump off passes. Well, yeah,

469
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: because they knew the pass rush was home and if

470
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: they weren't running that, they were just going to take

471
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: more holding penalties or more sacks or so that all

472
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: plays into it. I understand completely that, yes, there's a

473
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Speaker 2: lot of yardage out there and there were a couple

474
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Speaker 2: of plays that a better quarterback, maybe Derek carf he's

475
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: in there makes Chris Olave flashed wide open on what

476
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 2: would have been a run to the end zone unimpeded,

477
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 2: but Rattler just didn't see it. But look, a lot

478
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 2: of that's the pass rush and you start heating them

479
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: up and now you're seeing ghosts and you're going to

480
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: get rid of the ball a little bit faster. So

481
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: to me, it's so hard to play that game. The

482
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: defense is what it is right now, and it's it

483
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: is that until it isn't, you know. I hope that

484
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 2: makes sense. But they're allowing thirteen points per game, and

485
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: they played a Steelers team when their offense was banged

486
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 2: up and couldn't get anything going. They had to be

487
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: on the field over and over again. And one explosive

488
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: got them and that Chiefs game one play got him,

489
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: you know it was it was one play where there

490
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: was just a little bit of a misstep on press

491
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: and little bit of miscommunication with some safety help and

492
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy gets them for fifty four yards seventeen points.

493
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Speaker 1: I know.

494
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: Fore Shee Rice went down in the game and they

495
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 2: had to adjust for that. You know, and there was

496
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: no Isaiah Pacheco, but whatever, you know, whatever, that's that's

497
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: what they had. It's what they had to play with,

498
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: and they're winning. And until it changes, until Joe Burrow

499
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: comes here and rips him for four hundred yards and

500
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: thirty five points, until Lamar Jackson, you know, puts up

501
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: a forty birth I don't want to hear it, Like,

502
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: let's see it happen. And then once it happens, then

503
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: you can start digging the group then say, well, you know,

504
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: here you go, this is what it really is because

505
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: that's who they faced before. But until that happens, Jameis

506
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: Winston just put up three thirty and three tugs. You know,

507
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: he just did it, you know, just did it against two.

508
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: It's freaking Ravens. So let's let's see, let's see if

509
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: he can do it again. You know, I don't want

510
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: to hear that you had to face Jamis and Noah

511
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: Maari Cooper and a team that's already starting to auction

512
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: off its pieces ahead of the November fifth trade deadline.

513
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: You know, if Zadaria Smith's going to sit out again

514
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: because he seems to be one of the big guys,

515
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: maybe it's David and Jokuho's going to be moved teams

516
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: two and six. They got the Deshaun Watson contract. They

517
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: probably got to start a mass in some draft picks

518
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: to try to restock this because of what their salary

519
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: situation is. But I think that I hope that makes sense, Like,

520
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: look that that's who they are. Sorry, it's who they are.

521
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: It's a team that allows thirteen points to their opponents

522
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: and until that starts to change, they have not allow

523
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: a team to score more than twenty this season. And

524
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: that is damn hard to do it.

525
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: It's remarkable, man. And you know for Cleveland listen, Baltimore

526
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: Secondary has struggled all season long, Jamis took advantage of it.

527
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: And I think two things. The Ravens in Browns. For

528
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: as poor as the Browns have been playing, it's a

529
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: division game. Those division games are always close. And to

530
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: see James for the first time in the Stefanski offense, yeah,

531
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: you know it's going to look a little bit different

532
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: than Deshaun wattson Now. I think the Chargers have the

533
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: advantage of seeing what Jamis did last week against the Ravens.

534
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 1: And the thing about Jesse Minter and I think it

535
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: was Derwin who said it in the locker after the game,

536
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: is like, we feel like we got the script, like

537
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: we feel like we got the blueprint before we go

538
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: into the game. That's how prepared Jesse Minter has this unit.

539
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: So I have no doubt that the defense will be

540
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: more than prepared for Nick Chubb and Jamis Winston on

541
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: Sunday and Money. I just I can't say enough about

542
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: these two fifth round rookie corners. Tar heep still in

543
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: cam Hart, the hit that cam Hart laid on Chris

544
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: Olave on Sunday Man, that's real, Like this is a

545
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: rookie man, and to have to have those guys playing

546
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: the way that they're playing. All credits to Jesse Mintter

547
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: for developing these guys. We I think a couple of

548
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: weeks ago you and I went over all the all

549
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: the rookies who are contributing. But you know, obviously we

550
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: know about Joe Alton, Lad McConkey, but to see like

551
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: how quickly these corners are contributing in the back end

552
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: and hopefully you get a Sante back and obviously Christian

553
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Fulton's been a little banged up, but to know that

554
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: you can actually count on those guys as we enter

555
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: week nine. It's pretty awesome.

556
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: Look, it kind of goes back to what I said

557
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: with lad Right and the two drops, and now you

558
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: come back six targets, six receptions, two touchdowns. You know,

559
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: the the look at cam Hart right, you know, hanging

560
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: his head, gets pulled off the field, commits a personal

561
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, and unnecessary roughness penalty on an incomplete pass

562
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: as he arrives late. But at the same time, you

563
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: know what the intent is. I'm coming and I'm going

564
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: to dislodge that ball, so it's not a first down. Unfortunately,

565
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: got a little too much head into it. It led

566
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: to the the interference penalty that then led to the

567
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: game winning field goal. And yet here he is right

568
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: back at it. And what happens in this rep this

569
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: rep heads up, shoulders down. It was a catch, But

570
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: it's it's a message that you're sending to receivers when

571
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: they're watching film that hey, here's a six to two

572
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: hundred and ten pound guy that is coming and you're

573
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: gonna have that seed planted. If you're up. If you're

574
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: up and James putting you in a bad position, then

575
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: you know what's coming. From cam and so it's great.

576
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: It's great stuff to put on film. And I credit

577
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: the rookie for not backing off, for not being afraid

578
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: of drawing a penalty, for not being afraid of getting

579
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: fined as someone who's not making a ton of money.

580
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: He's a fifth round pick, you know, and those fines

581
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: are steep. So that's a great adjustment that he made.

582
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look at his last two twelve tackles, ten solos.

583
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: If you were to pull, if you were to pull

584
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: one tackle, if you were to say, hey, let's get

585
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: some teaching tape from this Saints game of how you're

586
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: supposed to form tackle and make sure you're not giving

587
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: anything up and making sure that you are in a

588
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: best position to not have a mistackle and a broken

589
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: tackle on your resume. You're pulling that tar heeb tackle.

590
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: It's as form, square up, wrap and drop like that's

591
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: like you said, that goes to that goes to coach Clink,

592
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: to coach Minter, and what these guys are doing with

593
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: young developmental players who have been pressed into duty because

594
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: of injuries to a Sante Samuel and a hammy that

595
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 2: just will not stop Dogg and Christian Fulton, who had

596
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: been playing some of the best corner in the league.

597
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: You know, and and you look at the game against Baltimore.

598
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: It's great to have it, right, It's it's it's funny, man.

599
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: As I'm as I put, I already got all my

600
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: notes and stuff because we're leaving on Friday. Like, look

601
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: at this, it's it's wild to look at Let me

602
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: see where did it go? Browns Browns, Browns Browns with

603
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: Jamis having the three hundred and thirty yard game. I

604
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: gotta find it because I know I wrote it down.

605
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: I just go, oh, here we go. This team has

606
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: had seven different offensive line combos in eight games. Like

607
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: that's that's what they're dealing with because of all the

608
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: injuries to Jedrick Wills and Potonio and a Posik and

609
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: to all these guys. But come on, where is here

610
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: we go? Watson his passing high from twenty twenty three

611
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety six yards through the air. He

612
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: had zero three hundred yard games in two thousand and

613
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry in twenty four. In twenty four his high

614
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: was one ninety three. He had zero three hundred yard

615
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: games in twenty twenty two. Damn it. I keep getting

616
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: the years wrong. My dog is right here, she's bouncing

617
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: all over my arm and she's distracted me. Let me

618
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: reset this, pretend like it was all edited out. All right,

619
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: here we go.

620
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: Oh, let's go.

621
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson's passing high in twenty twenty four one hundred

622
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 2: ninety six yards. Jamis just threw for three point thirty.

623
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: Last year he had zero three hundred yard games. Joe

624
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: Flacco had five. Like so you can see this team

625
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: was handicapped with Deshaun Watson back there. They just couldn't

626
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: throw the ball. I bring it up because well, now

627
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: at least you've got a game to see what they're

628
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: gonna do. They threw at forty one times, they ran

629
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: at twenty three with James, and he spread it out

630
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: man seven receptions for Cedric Tillman, eight for Elijah Moore,

631
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: five for Jerry Judy, five for David and Joku. He

632
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: had two touchdowns to said Tillman, who I think had

633
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: what did he have before that in his career? Guy had? Yeah,

634
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: that's it. Last week he had seven catches ninety nine yards,

635
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: two touchdowns. This entire season, he's got now eighteen receptions,

636
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: seven of them last week. He had eleven going into

637
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: this game, and that's the kind of performance he put up.

638
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: So I bring all that up to point out it's

639
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: going to look different. It's not your Kevin Stefanski hand

640
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: the ball to Nick Chubb thirty times and run a

641
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: couple of play actions for David and Joku and Amari

642
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: Cooper because you're on your heels. They aired it out, man,

643
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: They let Jamis get after at forty one attempts. Man

644
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: got sacked twice, no interceptions, fumbled and lost at once.

645
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: So now you kind of know, kind of know that

646
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: was a long freaking that's too much of meat talking,

647
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: but I.

648
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Know it's not at all. Dude, listen, just to go

649
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: back to your point when you called Tarheeb and cam

650
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: Hart developmental players. Yeah, they were supposed to be supposed

651
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: to be developmental players. Now they're actually starting for the

652
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Chargers secondary defense that's allowed thirteen points a game. The

653
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Browns have not scored twenty points a game until last

654
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: week with Jams. They had not scored I think the

655
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: only team in the NFL not to score twenty points.

656
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: Yeah they were, So that changes. So twenty nine points

657
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: from this Jameis Winston offense. At the same time, if

658
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: you guys didn't watch the game, Kyle Hamilton should have

659
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: ended the game with yes if they dropped the interception.

660
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: So that goes to say that Jamis is gonna give

661
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: you one. He's always going to give you one. He's

662
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: going to give you three. He may give you a few.

663
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: And that's why I think I think one of the

664
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Speaker 1: keys of the game is really if you can get

665
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: a couple of turnips, turn him over. The charge has

666
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: been doing a good job of getting the football from

667
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: the opposing offense, and you know, whether it's Darwin or

668
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: one of these corners, get one, get two, get three,

669
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: and that could potentially decide the game. But yeah, money,

670
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I do think that having that one

671
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: game to watch Jamis, the Ravens didn't really have that luxury. Now,

672
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, Gym and company and coach Minter get to

673
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: see kind of what this offense looks like. Like you said,

674
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Nick Chubb is coming off that terrible knee injury.

675
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: He's not all the way back yet, averaging three point

676
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: three yards to carry last week. So yeah, they're gonna

677
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: try to run the football a little bit. But this

678
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: is going to be a pass heavy offense led by

679
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston.

680
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: Look, last week, they had their longest play from scrimmage

681
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: this season, and it was thirty eight yards, you know,

682
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: and it's it's the eighth game that they play. They

683
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: had already played seven games and they had not had

684
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: a play go longer than thirty eight yards. And that

685
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: just happened.

686
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: For context, Josh Palmer had a forty five yard reception

687
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: last week and lab McCaughey had a sixty yard touchdown.

688
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so, and I will say, let's not forget now,

689
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: like their longest play from scrimmage was that forty one

690
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: yard catch that Reger made in Arizona that he managed

691
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: to fumble right after like that, So so we kind

692
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: of know a little bit about it. But and how

693
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: important it is to open things up because they just

694
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: they couldn't do anything, Like Deshaun was so bad passing.

695
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: And look, he's not playing. I will say this. They

696
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: already announced at least Mary Kay cabot Uh tweeted out

697
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: that that Joka is not going to play, and man,

698
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: I hope he's okay, because that's a serious deal. The

699
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: neck injuries taken out on a stretcher injury man. For

700
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: for the fact that everybody knows who Miles Garrett is.

701
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: That everybody talks about these two corners in Denzel Ward

702
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: and Greg Newsom. There's not a lot of interceptions there,

703
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 2: but when it comes to being sticky, they're pretty darn

704
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: good their safeties. Grant delpit like, he's not someone that

705
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 2: people mention and without without Joka, he is their leading

706
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: tackler sixty one tackles. He's their leading sack man or

707
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: second in sacks with three behind Zadaria Smith. He's got more.

708
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: He's got a half sack less than Miles Garrett. He

709
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: leads the team in tackles for loss with ten. He's

710
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: got three passes defense to force fumble an interception like

711
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: that dude reeks havoc and not having him Jim Schwartz.

712
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: Not having him takes a huge, huge weapon away from

713
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: what they like to do defensively and being able to

714
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: have a linebacker. He's very much like a Derwin James

715
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: where he can do it all man. He can cover,

716
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: he breaks up passes. He you know, he's got good

717
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: hands to secure interceptions. He punches balls out for forced fumbles.

718
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: They can deploy him as a pass rusher and he's

719
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: a missile with all those tackles for loss. That's a huge,

720
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: huge loss for that defense.

721
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also keep in mind Denzel Ward as we

722
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: take this in concussion protocol, so we don't know if

723
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: we'll see him like that if the Chargers. You know,

724
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: we talked about the Patrick startan injury a couple of

725
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: weeks ago that happened at the beginning of the game.

726
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: That was a big and then a Lottimore goes out

727
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: of the of the Saints game last week. Yeah, so

728
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: keep an eye on Denzel Ward.

729
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: He's the NFL and passes defense twelve through eight games,

730
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: twelve through eight games, and and he is sticky man.

731
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: And you wonder you're talking about selling off guys like

732
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: the Browns, especially after this week. If if the charge

733
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: were able to beat the Browns like they may be

734
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: selling off a lot of guys from Djoku to I

735
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: don't know if be Ward or Newsom or one of those.

736
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: Cool it be Newsome because he's up for the contract.

737
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: You know, he's coming into that year five like Slater.

738
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they were both drafted in the first round together.

739
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: As you know, you're Alma Mater. Yeah, you know that

740
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: they're so that would be the one because they just

741
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: gave Ward that giant contract, so they don't want to

742
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: eat all that signing bonus money. Newsom's in it interesting

743
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: one just because he doesn't pick he doesn't pick balls off.

744
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: You know, there's you're talking about year five and he's

745
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: only got two career interceptions, but he's a really good

746
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: cover corner. So it's kind of like, what's what's the value?

747
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: Like what are you getting back from a guy that

748
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: you invested a first round pick in who's a really

749
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: good player but doesn't really create turnovers? You know, I

750
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: don't know what that's going to fetch you. Is it

751
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: going to get you a third? You know? Is it

752
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: going to get you a fourth? Conditional third? Like it's

753
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 2: it's not getting you a two. I don't think there's

754
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: no way that that's getting you a two.

755
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: A third, maybe a third.

756
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: And at that point it's like at that point, it's like, sorry,

757
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: I keep playing with these earplugs and for people that

758
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: are wondering what keeps popping in that's watching on you tube,

759
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: get it off my hands. But yeah, and it's at

760
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: that point it's like Okay, a third, we're probably like

761
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: because it's weird, right, Newsom's a tough one because corners

762
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: that fifty year option, if you just pick it up,

763
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 2: that's going to be a big number, man, because remember

764
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: it's the app. I think it's the average of the

765
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: top ten plate paid players at the position and corner

766
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: is a premium position, So that's a big number. What

767
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: do you want to pay him on an extension? Like

768
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: it's a Newsom's a tough one, man, Like that's a

769
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: that's a tough one. But yeah, to your point, and

770
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: Djoku Newsome. People are talking about Zadaria Smith who's thirty two,

771
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: but he's incredible. You know, the guy's got five sacks,

772
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: He's got sixty five career sacks, so like, and he's

773
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: a one year rental I think, or maybe there's two

774
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: years on that. So yeah, it's this is a team

775
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: that it's interesting, right because you're you get to two

776
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: and six and you start thinking about, well, I'm going

777
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: into free agency now or I'm a vet and it's

778
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: like what are we doing here? And I've got to

779
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: think about my next contract? And I don't think it's

780
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: going to be here because they're going to be rebuilding,

781
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: like things can get kind of weird. Things can get

782
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: kind of weird.

783
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: The precedent is that aj Terrell Atlanta contract. He got

784
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: paid a ton of money and doesn't get any interceptions.

785
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: So I think it's eye the beholder, right. If somebody

786
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: thinks Greg Newsom is going to be a starting corner

787
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: for them for the next five six years, and they're

788
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: willing to give up a conditional third or something, then

789
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: that's that's what's going to be interesting, which actually kind

790
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: of leads them to the next topic. I think we

791
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: should talk about. It's just this trade deadline, and especially

792
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: if the Chargers, we'll put out good vibes. Let's say

793
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: they get a win on Sunday and get the five

794
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: and three, the trade deadline is just forty eight hours later.

795
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: And you know, we've talked about wide receiver a lot.

796
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: But I do think that with Quinton Back and DJ Shark,

797
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I just don't see anybody out there money that's going

798
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: to put them over the top. I don't see a

799
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: situation where there's an elite wide receiver out there that

800
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: a team's going to trade that's going to put the

801
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: Chargers over the top. Maybe I'm missing somebody.

802
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, Chris, I see too. And I think

803
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: if they're willing to accept a two for a guy

804
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: that they took as a high one, then that that

805
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: deal can be made, because I don't You're you're not

806
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: getting Chris a Lave for anything less than a two.

807
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: And the Saints are two and six, they've lost six

808
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: in a row. They've got a disaster of a cap situation.

809
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 2: You know, again, he's coming up, He's going into what's

810
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: a LAVA. I think a Lave is a year behind Slater,

811
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: so you would probably be looking at doing the extension.

812
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have to, But you know.

813
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: Three, is he year three right now? I think he ye, he's.

814
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's year three. But again, you're not getting

815
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: a one for him. But for whatever reason, like they

816
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: just have not been able to maximize him. And he

817
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: is a legitimate number one receiver. He can beat press,

818
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: he can fly, he's got incredible he's tough as nails.

819
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: You can play him in the slot, you can play

820
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: him at Z, you can play him in IT, you

821
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: can absolutely play him at X. He's a physical dude.

822
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: I would I'd give up a two for him tomorrow.

823
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: And the other one's Garrett Wilson. How ugly does this

824
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: thing get for the Jets because they're going to have

825
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: to pay him, you know, And and it's like, what

826
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You know? What are you got

827
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers for another year? Like I don't you know

828
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: what I mean, I don't.

829
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: Know, trade Devonte Adams money. Maybe they'll trade DeVante Adams.

830
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: You know what, It's not a bad idea. It's not

831
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: it's it's not a bad idea.

832
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: Joking, it probably should be done.

833
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: It's I'm not like, I don't Why wouldn't you you know,

834
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 2: what are you going to do with that guy? If

835
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: if San Francisco called and offered you a little bit

836
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: less than what you gave up, yeah you got egg

837
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: on your face. But what you're what are you doing?

838
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Like the Bills are running away with that division right now,

839
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: running away with it, So you really think, I guess

840
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: the one thing you look at is sort of what

841
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: are the you know, what's the AFC is a mess?

842
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: Like that's that's kind of what you're looking at. You're like,

843
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 2: all right, right now the Chargers are the seven seed

844
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: at four and three? So are we really that far out?

845
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: Of this if we can, if we can get our

846
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: act together, like that's the thing you got. You got

847
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: the Colts at four and four in the eighth spot.

848
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: Chargers are four and three at seven. So even if

849
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: you're sitting there at two and six and you're like,

850
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: can we turn this around and get to nine and eight?

851
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: Can we go seven and two somehow? Because that might

852
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: be enough. I don't know, I mean, like, well, like

853
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: to me, that's you know.

854
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: What They played the Texans tonight. We're taking this on Halloween,

855
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: so you guys are going to listen to this. Probably

856
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: Friday morning, you'll know the result of Texans Jets. So

857
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: this conversation will be choose your own adventure now, Like.

858
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Texans beat the Jets, it's like the

859
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: schedule makers did them a great favor because look, the

860
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Texans have kind of had their own issues as well.

861
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: L you know, I know they're six and two, but

862
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: you look at it and it's like oof, Now Stefon

863
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: Diggs is down. They've been dealing with injuries, They've had

864
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: a couple ugly games that they've managed to squeak out

865
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: because of a pone like that Colts game, what a mess.

866
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: What an absolute mess? Like, you know, that's kind of

867
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: what I'm getting at.

868
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: So if the chess is just a favorite type.

869
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I can see. I can totally see that.

870
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: As crazy as that sounds, you know, that's that If

871
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: they lose that game they're two and seven, then yes,

872
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: I think you could possibly see them saying, all right,

873
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: we got a freaking get a bunch of draft picks

874
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: in here, But what's it worth if you are you

875
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: willing to give up a two and a four for

876
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: you know, a two and a five that could become

877
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: a four for Garrett Wilson, Like, I don't know what

878
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: it's worth to them to do that. Do you really

879
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: want a bunch of old receivers and Aaron Rodgers going

880
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: into the season next year? But those those are the

881
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: two that I'm looking at. I know there's some people

882
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: saying DK metcalf, but don't I don't know why you

883
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: do that. If you're the Seahawks, you're still pretty darren't

884
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: good team. I know it's kind of gotten away from

885
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: you a little bit here and there, but that one

886
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: I don't quite understand. And that's it. I think. You know,

887
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: there's rumors that Jordan Madison's fallen out of the rotation

888
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. But again, you're not getting a one for him.

889
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: You just drafted him two years ago. So you're really

890
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: going to give up on a guy that you got

891
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: locked in at wide receiver at that at that salary

892
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: because it's so.

893
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: DK getting reunited with his wide receiver coach here would

894
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: be awesome.

895
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

896
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: I just don't know why Seattle would even entertain that right, Like.

897
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: To me, it's those two. I think it's now that

898
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk got hurt unfortunately, I think he absolutely would

899
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: have been moved. That's you know, Calvin Ridley's an interesting one.

900
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: I think Calvin's a one, I really do. I think

901
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: he's an absolute one. It's a lot of money that

902
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: you're taking on, and I don't think the Chargers have

903
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: that kind of space. They have to figure out, I think,

904
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: how to squeeze that inks. I think he's making what

905
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: twenty million bucks a year? So that's so there we go.

906
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: That's What about What about guys like in Joku and

907
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram?

908
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know about Ingram. I think I think in

909
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: Joku makes because Ingram just signed that deal, so I

910
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: think I think in Djoku makes a little bit more sense.

911
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: He's a little bit more of that full service Hunter Henry.

912
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a no brainer bring him home, if

913
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: you know. To me, that's a no brainer. I'm not granted.

914
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: Everybody that you know, with the exception of John Spanos,

915
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: has gone that you know, drafted and then inherited and

916
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: developed Hunter and let him go in the first place,

917
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, which they never should have done. That was

918
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: one of the great mistakes. It was not a big

919
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: money deal. They were worried about injuries, and it's like, whatever,

920
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: don't worry about injuries. You know, the guy had you know,

921
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: it's not like he was gone eight games a year

922
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: every year. You know, we had a couple of god

923
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: dinged a couple times. Big deal. But yeah, I'd bring

924
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: back Hunter Henry in a half second. That's in Joku.

925
00:46:54,520 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm looking Bengals Colts. Uh that that over here? Yeah,

926
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: I don't see. I don't see much on the on

927
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: the tight end front. Yeah, that's that would be the

928
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: one I.

929
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: Think about Hunter is nobody was here, but but but

930
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Justin threw to him his rookie year. He mean, like

931
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: if Justin has his say, you know, and I'm not

932
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: saying that they're asking justin who would you want? But uh,

933
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, like, listen, man, Mike Williams wasn't even targeted

934
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: last week, so Aaron Rodgers is completely icing him, and

935
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: I feel like he will be traded. I don't know

936
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: for to whom or how much, but like Mike's just

937
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: being wasted in New York right now.

938
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's a that's a to me.

939
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: It's like, do I think Mike can be the number

940
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: one here? I don't know what the acl like, I'm

941
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: not sure how far back he is, you know, is

942
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: it'd be great to have again. You want that X

943
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: run down this, you know that get off a press,

944
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: run down, win fifty to fifty balls, pull a safety

945
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: for help, and get this thing to breathe. Mike's a

946
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: great fit and he's not going to cost you anything.

947
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: It's a sixth round pick if you take on the salary,

948
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: you know. So the great thing about Hunter is just

949
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: sign an extension, you know, just sign an extension, not

950
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: a huge signing bonus seven to five. So it's not

951
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: like they're eating a ton and you got this guy

952
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: under contract for the next two years after this for

953
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: an average of eight million bucks a year, Like, it's

954
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: a pretty good deal for Hunter Henry. Like that's so

955
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: those are the I think those are the ones I'd

956
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: be looking at. Those are the ones that probably make

957
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: the most sense. I think it's a great call on

958
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: the tight end because I think, look, check this out.

959
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: How long we're going out? Yeah, We're way long. So

960
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: I'm just talking in circles and I but I've got

961
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: all this stuff that I wanted to get to. I

962
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: just have to get to pull it out of here.

963
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: So like Will Disley, God love him, man, he blocks

964
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: his tail off his highest single season. This is in

965
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: any season of his previous six six seasons as a pro,

966
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: so these aren't necessarily all from the same year. His

967
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: highest targets thirty eight, highest receptions thirty four yards, three

968
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: forty nine first downs twenty that's in an individual season.

969
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: Those are his highs. Right now with the Chargers, he's

970
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: got thirty three targets, twenty six receptions, two hundred and

971
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 2: thirty three yards, and twelve first downs through seven games.

972
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: So when you see the ball fall off his fingertips

973
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: on a perfectly thrown pass that would have gone for

974
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: thirty five yards. Yeah, you're asking Will to do a

975
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: lot man, a lot more than he's ever been. It's

976
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: one thing to have a spot route or a choice

977
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: route or a semra. Well now you're asking the guy

978
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: to run a wheel and he's got a track and

979
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: secure Overshow that's not what's been asked, you know, that's

980
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: not what he's been asked to do. So that's more

981
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: of what Hayden Hurst has been asked to do. And

982
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: he's just you know, unfortunately not healthy.

983
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think Will was envisioning a featured

984
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: pass catching role when he signed with the Chargers. And listen,

985
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: great him, great, great in Arizona against the Cardinals. It's

986
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: great that he was able to catch some balls yesterday.

987
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: But I don't think that this offense is meant to

988
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: look exactly like that. Yeah, you know, again again with

989
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: DJ Chark. You guys will monitor that as as we

990
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: get through the rest of this week. In Quentin Johnson's

991
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: ankle getting quitting back, I think would be nice too

992
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: for this offense. You know, we talked about these wide receivers,

993
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: but I just there's a ton of them. There's a

994
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: ton of them on this team, and Justin's starting to

995
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: build some chemistry with them.

996
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: So that's why it's just a one like it doesn't

997
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: to me, like the whole Deontay Johnson or you know

998
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: that sort of thing, like, No, if you're going to

999
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: get a receiver, this team needs to get the guy,

1000
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: like the guy is good. Yeah, a lave would be huge,

1001
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: would be just I would, I would absolutely Is Loomis

1002
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: still the guy there? I think he is. I mean,

1003
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: i'd be Pepper and Mickey Loomis saying, come on, man, let's.

1004
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: They've just been kicking money down the curve for years

1005
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: in New Orleans two. And you know, if you can't

1006
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: pay the guy what he's ultimately going to get on

1007
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: the open market, get something for him immediately. Yeah.

1008
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: And look, wide receiver salaries just keep getting crazier and crazier,

1009
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: So you want to get that guy locked up. Obviously

1010
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: this offseason they got to lock up or Sean. That's

1011
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: going to cost a fortune, and you're going to probably

1012
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 2: want to get some you know, get that number one receiver.

1013
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 2: And if you can get it in a lobby, he's young,

1014
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: he's ready to grow with Q and and then you

1015
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: kind of can get your compiics to work out. So anyway, Yeah,

1016
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: there we go Cleveland.

1017
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: Should be fun. Man. I'm going to the I'm going

1018
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame in Canton on Saturday. I'll

1019
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: fin to do a piece there and talk to talk

1020
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: to the communications guy there. He's going to get out

1021
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: some some charger stuff that's not typically on display, so

1022
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: or do a little piece for CBS. I'm always excited

1023
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: to go to the Hall, dude.

1024
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: It's it's fun.

1025
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: It's fun. Hopefully Gates will be there next year.

1026
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: But he will be. He'd better be. Yeah, it's stupid

1027
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: that we can get it on his for S ballot.

1028
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, but they make you do that. It's just

1029
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: so yeah, I got to figure it out. We've got

1030
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: to we've got to sort out some things and if

1031
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: we can get it right, then on my head over

1032
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: to Ann Arbor and watch Oregon Michigan. So I just

1033
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: kind of got to figure out if I can get

1034
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: some some things to line up. Because it's a three

1035
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: thirty kick. It's about a three hour drive two and

1036
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: a half three hour drive from Cleveland, so that's yeah,

1037
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah, that's it's not that far. So you

1038
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 2: just got to kind of wrap around and go up. Unfortunately,

1039
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: don't have a duck boat that I can drive to

1040
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: the water and just cut across. Might cut it off

1041
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: a little bit, but yeah, it's about three hours. So

1042
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: that's the plan. If we can get it to work out,

1043
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: we'll see. I'd like for it to work out. So

1044
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: DJ and I, you know, we're always looking, always looking

1045
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: for a Saturday game when we travel on Friday. So

1046
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: he and I are like, come on, man, as much

1047
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: as I'd like to go see Akron v. Buffalo, not

1048
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: quite as exciting to get the maction going on Saturday.

1049
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: Let's go up. Let's go up a couple classes. Right,

1050
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: it's good exactly.

1051
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 2: Let's see if we can get to the Big House

1052
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 2: and pile in there and watch some Oregon Michigan football

1053
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: now that we don't have to worry about watching the

1054
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: Dodger World Series Game seven that night. Kind of freeze

1055
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: that up quite a bit.

1056
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah. A lot of illegal fireworks going off in LA.

1057
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys heard them exactly right. All right, Hey,

1058
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: we went over fifty minutes.

1059
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: That's a long one.

1060
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a long one, but always fun. Guys for

1061
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: money on Chris has been charged weekly I will see

1062
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: you on Sunday in Cleveland.