Speaker 1: So I guess I first want to discuss why I
Speaker 1: am doing the rewives podcast. Um, it's funny because so
Speaker 1: I have a podcast called rewives also on I Heart.
Speaker 1: It has launched two tremendous reviews and response and downloads
Speaker 1: and success. And I apologize to haters that that's not
Speaker 1: the plan that you wished for, but here we are,
Speaker 1: so I guess we have to deal with it together.
Speaker 1: So Paul, my fiance, listen to many podcasts. I listened
Speaker 1: to zero, so I never know what's going on in
Speaker 1: many areas of the world. And he sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: my dad who sends me articles on things, you know
Speaker 1: how like a dad sends a college student because she's
Speaker 1: not paying attention to anything news that's going on. So
Speaker 1: Paul will send me articles about things, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's like, he's like he's got the dad vibe in
Speaker 1: that way. So he said, you have to do a
Speaker 1: rewatch about housewives. I was like, what's a rewatch? So
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that this was a world. This
Speaker 1: is a while back, had to be almost a year ago,
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, And I don't remember, but I think
Speaker 1: like it was Scrubs or One Tree Hill. And then
Speaker 1: I asked the people my heart and they said Gilmore
Speaker 1: girls and these are all super successful. And I said well,
Speaker 1: and I didn't say woll. But I didn't think anything.
Speaker 1: And I didn't care because it didn't apply to me.
Speaker 1: And I thought, he said, you have to do this
Speaker 1: for housewives. He said, you're he said, I'm not saying this.
Speaker 1: He said, and his family's really good friends with the
Speaker 1: owners of the Patriots. He said, we want to hear
Speaker 1: Tom Brady breakdown the game. And I thought, okay. And
Speaker 1: so because he kept saying it was such a good idea, um,
Speaker 1: and because I don't like if I have a good
Speaker 1: idea in my hands, that someone else is going to
Speaker 1: do it and they're going to do it out as well.
Speaker 1: So I thought someone's going to do this. But I
Speaker 1: thought it seemed intriguing, and I was toying around with
Speaker 1: the idea of doing it, and I thought about what
Speaker 1: other would I ever do with another housewife and who
Speaker 1: would it be? UM shout out to Caroline Manzo. If
Speaker 1: I ever did this with another housewife, it would have
Speaker 1: been Caroline Manzo. There was a moment that I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: I do something like this with Kathy Hilton, because she's
Speaker 1: sort of the matriarch um. She's got a lot of
Speaker 1: heat on her. I liked that Caroline, and I love Kathy,
Speaker 1: but I liked that Caroline was out of the frying pan.
Speaker 1: She also chose to leave. There are very few housewives
Speaker 1: that have chosen to leave. People can market it, and
Speaker 1: you see in the press, I don't want this anymore.
Speaker 1: And then they're running back. And I know housewives very
Speaker 1: well that have said, if I ever get fired, I'll
Speaker 1: just walk away and I'll never think about it again.
Speaker 1: And they just can't help it. They wanted back. It
Speaker 1: bothers him. It's like someone that broke up with them.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. But Caroline left. I don't think she's the
Speaker 1: right person for this, even though I like her. But
Speaker 1: Denise left all so so I was thinking about people
Speaker 1: who had left. It just wasn't sitting with me as
Speaker 1: the right move for the show. I just didn't want
Speaker 1: I would just be dragged down into talking two housewives
Speaker 1: a bad housewives, and I just didn't want to do that.
Speaker 1: So I thought about, do I even need to do this?
Speaker 1: In my publicist Jill Fritzo, who happens to represent Denise
Speaker 1: Richards or she used to and um, she used to
Speaker 1: represent Lisa Rinna, And she said, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like we've rinsed this whole thing, what are you going
Speaker 1: back in for? And I thought, I guess like I
Speaker 1: don't like it. So I thought I was all my
Speaker 1: good ideas are from between sleep and wake. And I thought,
Speaker 1: I want to talk to people that I just that
Speaker 1: are unexpected. I like to do things in a new way.
Speaker 1: Me talking to a housewife about the housewives is not interesting,
Speaker 1: it's boring. It hasn't even been done. But and I
Speaker 1: would do better than anyone, but it's just not what
Speaker 1: I want to do. So when I thought of, oh
Speaker 1: my god, let me talk to really smart people, successful
Speaker 1: people icons in their own right, really famous celebrities, just
Speaker 1: like my own version of this, my own decision about
Speaker 1: who I want to talk to, like that made it
Speaker 1: seem intriguing. So then I started thinking, I pitcheck. I
Speaker 1: probably got some major people to do this. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have a good reputation, I have a good relationship
Speaker 1: with people in media and entertainment. I've developed this. Relationships
Speaker 1: in business take years to create, you know, just it's
Speaker 1: it's trust, it's people knowing your revolt and that you're
Speaker 1: not going to the low hanging fruit. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I have I in my mind always can
Speaker 1: see how it's going to go. So that's how the
Speaker 1: real that's when I woke up. That's when I called
Speaker 1: I Hardes said I'll do it in this way. This
Speaker 1: is a way to do it, and to be honest,
Speaker 1: it seemed like the right thing to do. It just
Speaker 1: felt like this is my alma mater, this is something
Speaker 1: that's part of my d n A. This is something
Speaker 1: that is embedded in my history. I cannot run around
Speaker 1: with mny as you. As Paul says, you danced with
Speaker 1: the one who brang you. I didn't. Jill Fritzo, my publicist,
Speaker 1: is the first person who kind of said, do you
Speaker 1: want to go back into that trash heap? And I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. I really didn't. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't think about the most obvious things. So we
Speaker 1: decided to do it. I knew I heard thought was
Speaker 1: gonna be a huge hit. I knew it was going
Speaker 1: to be a huge hit. I now this will be
Speaker 1: my third in a slate on my heart. So when
Speaker 1: we were doing the release, you know, Jill was pretty silent.
Speaker 1: My publicist. She wasn't like involved, and it invested in it.
Speaker 1: She gets lit when things when she understands where they're
Speaker 1: going and what they are. She doesn't get lit before.
Speaker 1: She doesn't understand all these things until they really happened.
Speaker 1: I could see it. So we launched, and then I
Speaker 1: realized I have to start really articulating why I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: Because we launched and announced, it's announcing People magazine. Dave
Speaker 1: Quinn writes the story. Dave Quinn is person who wrote
Speaker 1: a Housewives book but I did not contribute to. And
Speaker 1: I didn't contribute to it because I thought it was
Speaker 1: celebrating a culture where women are trashing other women. So
Speaker 1: now I'm talking to Dave Quinn, the same person who
Speaker 1: wrote the Housewives book that I didn't participate in because
Speaker 1: I think it's a culture of women trashing other women.
Speaker 1: And now I am going back in and talking about
Speaker 1: this culture. And people thought that that was very few people,
Speaker 1: only people who talk about housewives and were annoyed someone
Speaker 1: else was coming into their space, by the way, not
Speaker 1: Dave Quinn. He had He was not annoyed at all.
Speaker 1: He likes me. We have a good relationship. But people,
Speaker 1: the people that really were annoyed, or people that are
Speaker 1: talking about the Housewives in their space or are threatened
Speaker 1: by it, or are worried, and they were. There was
Speaker 1: a very small group that, of course you always here
Speaker 1: the negative small comments that were saying, well, you know,
Speaker 1: she trashes this space, and I wants to walk in
Speaker 1: and talk about it, right, Yeah, I left, Hi, everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm over here. I left. I left the Housewives because
Speaker 1: I didn't like what it represented in society in my life.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in that conversation. Hi, everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm still over here. I was on the Housewives. It
Speaker 1: was my beginning of my trajectory. In fact, The Housewives
Speaker 1: is very much a part of my success. Also, in fact,
Speaker 1: I am very much a part of The Housewives success.
Speaker 1: I mean literally. Dorry Kemsley's husband p K at Trippriani
Speaker 1: on the same night that we were out with uh Boy.
Speaker 1: George said, part of the reason Dorry did it is
Speaker 1: she wants to go on. We want quote unquote, we
Speaker 1: want her to go on and do what you did.
Speaker 1: Matt Anderson, who cast The Miami Housewives, was interviewing a
Speaker 1: bunch of different Housewives that had been cast and talking
Speaker 1: about the next season, and they said to him, Oh,
Speaker 1: we want to do what she did. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is not news. I was the first of many's, the
Speaker 1: first of liquor brands, the first of books, the first
Speaker 1: of photo shoots, the first New York Times bestseller. Many
Speaker 1: people may or may not know that, but it is.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's true. So we have helped each other,
Speaker 1: Bravo and I. And whether Bravo likes this or not
Speaker 1: because I'm coming in to their space or the Bravo sphere,
Speaker 1: I'm it's part. It's part of my life. And as
Speaker 1: Paul said, you gotta dance with the one who brang
Speaker 1: yet and maybe or maybe not, as Paul said, they
Speaker 1: want to hear uh the courter former quarterback break down
Speaker 1: the game. So, but here's the biggest part that I
Speaker 1: realized through talking about why I'm doing this. You could
Speaker 1: have memories of yours that may not have always been pleasant.
Speaker 1: You could have experiences and relationships that you don't want
Speaker 1: to be in anymore. You could have a high school
Speaker 1: boyfriend that cheated on you, but you also laughed with
Speaker 1: that person, or went to a carnival or threw up
Speaker 1: on yourself, you know, in a movie theater, and you're
Speaker 1: still gonna tell that story because it's part of your story.
Speaker 1: So reality TV has represented a quarter of my lifetime.
Speaker 1: So yeah, The Housewives was a part of that. So
Speaker 1: now I'm over here, having left the Housewives, walked away
Speaker 1: from millions of dollars, walked out on my terms. One
Speaker 1: of the few that actually did walk out that doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go back, has said they don't want to
Speaker 1: go back and is welcome to come back, or has
Speaker 1: been welcome to come back maybe before this podcast, but
Speaker 1: has had an open door to come back at any time.
Speaker 1: And now I'm over here with that experience and that
Speaker 1: rear view, and now I want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: What was going on, what was going on in front
Speaker 1: of the camera, in my body away from the camera,
Speaker 1: break in the fourth wall. The genre has changed. People's
Speaker 1: lives have changed, people's homes have changed, people's faces have changed,
Speaker 1: people's marriages have changed, people's financial situations have changed, that
Speaker 1: characters have changed. So I have institutional knowledge about this
Speaker 1: experience and I want to share it. I find it
Speaker 1: amusing to sit down with Elizabeth Moss and talk about
Speaker 1: scary island. That's ridiculous. That's something you'd never even dream of.
Speaker 1: I chose to talk to Jerry Springer about the most
Speaker 1: Jerry Springer like Jersey Housewives episode ever. It's not a
Speaker 1: trash fest. That's so easy. I could trash anybody I
Speaker 1: want every day on social media, on you know, in
Speaker 1: in shitty publications. It's not a trash fest. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a retrospective. It's a discussion on my terms. I'm
Speaker 1: producing this. I'm deciding who I'm talking to about this
Speaker 1: and how we're talking about it, and what we're talking
Speaker 1: about in which episodes. And part of what I will
Speaker 1: talk about is how we had no control on the
Speaker 1: Housewives none. You could be Cavy Hilton, you could be
Speaker 1: a billionaire. You have no control of what they're was
Speaker 1: pulling out of that oven. Unlike the Kardashians, they control
Speaker 1: what comes out of that oven. Housewives have no control
Speaker 1: of what comes out of that oven. Literally, I have
Speaker 1: cast people on The Housewives show, and two days before
Speaker 1: filming starts, let's say a week before filming starts, I
Speaker 1: wasn't even told that the person that I cast is
Speaker 1: going to be on the cast. It's the land of
Speaker 1: being blindsided, whether it's to some onw knowing Melissa is
Speaker 1: gonna be on the cast or anything. It's just the
Speaker 1: land of not being in control. Actors become producers and
Speaker 1: directors because they want control. They're just puppets. They we
Speaker 1: think they're so famous and they're amazing, and it looks
Speaker 1: great because they're in front of the camera smiling. They're
Speaker 1: still the puppets, which is why they want to get
Speaker 1: in control. So they want to be directing, directing episodes
Speaker 1: hopefully that they can also act in. They have way
Speaker 1: more control than a housewife. A housewife has no idea
Speaker 1: how they've been portrayed, has no idea how happy a
Speaker 1: producer is that they that they are, that they fell
Speaker 1: off the wagon. Have no idea how great it is
Speaker 1: for television that they have been cheated on that's good story.
Speaker 1: Have no idea that someone that they despise might be
Speaker 1: a cast member. Like it's the land of land mines
Speaker 1: and being blindsided. This is my podcast called Rewives. It's
Speaker 1: my rewatching the wives. So for anybody who's confused and
Speaker 1: the Bravo sphere or the popular culture sphere about why
Speaker 1: I'm going awkwards, I'm going forward, my body, my choice,
Speaker 1: my podcast, my choice, my discussion, my choice. I hate
Speaker 1: doing it. I can stop doing it. I'll call it
Speaker 1: her and be like, I don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 1: I love doing it. I can do an episode every
Speaker 1: goddamn day. My choice, my podcast, my choice, like everything
Speaker 1: else I do in business,