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Speaker 1: So Paul, my fiance, listen to many podcasts. I listened

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Speaker 1: more control than a housewife. A housewife has no idea

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Speaker 1: how they've been portrayed, has no idea how happy a

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Speaker 1: for television that they have been cheated on that's good story.

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Speaker 1: and being blindsided. This is my podcast called Rewives. It's

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Speaker 1: my rewatching the wives. So for anybody who's confused and

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Speaker 1: I'm going awkwards, I'm going forward, my body, my choice,

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Speaker 1: I love doing it. I can do an episode every

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Speaker 1: goddamn day. My choice, my podcast, my choice, like everything

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