WEBVTT - WHO WOULD ATTACK THE INAUGURATION? 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:11.000 The clot is taking down to the inauguration, and right 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:15.200 now across our country and of course in DC, everyone 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.759 is on high alert after the debacle, the attack on 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:26.040 our US Capitol by American citizens, not a threat from 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:32.800 overseas by American citizens. What will unfold God forbid tomorrow. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.760 Take a listen to our friends at CBS. This is 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.639 called an NSS or a National Special Security Event. This 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.000 is the highest security designation that any event can have 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.880 here in the United States, and security has led by 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.200 the Secret Service. I've been covering these since two thousand 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.080 and one, and what makes this different is the way 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.960 in which the secure purity footprint has been expanded around 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.840 the capital and the number of days that security perimeter 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.920 is in place. And of course, as you see here, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.240 the very visible military security presence, up to twenty five 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.640 thousand National Guard will be here in Washington. And the 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.880 objective of government officials is to create a deterrent, to 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:26.280 harden this target in order to give a disincentive to 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.800 those who might want to commit violence. On Wednesday, you 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.840 were hearing our friend Katherine Harritchet, CBSC, Senior Investigative correspondent, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.360 in preparation for tomorrow, this is what we don't want 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:59.400 to happen. Listen, you look at old this on You'll 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:04.680 just you know, want Jackie stop it. I can't stand 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:09.080 to hear it. Not a threat from abroad, our own 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:15.760 fellow Americans attacking our capital, the symbol of our government 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.680 that we all believe in. Yes we question it, Yes 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.799 we may not like it sometimes, but it is our government. 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.720 With me right now and all start panel. First of all, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.639 Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author Red Flags at Wendy Patrick 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.399 PhD dot com. Host of Today with Doctor Wendy KCBQ, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:39.200 Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst Beverly Hills at Doctor Bethany Marshall 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.000 dot com. Starve a brand new Netflix series, Bling Empire. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.600 A very special guest joining me. Colin P. Clark, director 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.079 of policy research at the Sufan Group, focusing on domestic 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:56.880 and transnational terrorism, international security, geopolitics, author of After the 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.760 Caliphate at sufangroup dot com. And Scott Taylor, a national 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:06.799 award winning investigative reporter for WJLATV ABC seven in DC. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:11.520 Scott Taylor, first to you, I understand there are more 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.400 National Guard, more troops in DC than there have been 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.480 since the Civil War. What does that feel like, Well, 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.280 it feels if you're in the Red Zone that you're 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.760 basically in a prison dancy, and that's what I'm calling it, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.320 the red Zone. They've developed multiple boxes. You have to 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:32.080 go through multiple security and show credentials to get closer 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.680 to the US Capitol where the riot happened, or the 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.240 White House, or even on the National Mall. We're talking 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:41.200 about fifteen plus city blocks. They started just with ten 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.400 last week and I went down there. Then they expanded 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:48.200 to another five. That's really less than seven percent of 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.440 a city that has over seven hundred thousand people. But 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.520 we're talking about seventy five streets that are closed, four 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.200 tunnels shut down, eight bridges. Most of the bridges closed 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.119 this morning. The Key Bridge is one of the only 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.000 bridges you can go from Virginia into DC. Right now. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:09.119 They've got huge concrete barricades up and those checkpoints, and 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.240 what's really startling is the large dump trucks that they 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.200 have right in the middle of streets. And as you mentioned, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:21.000 those twenty five thousand National Guardsman military vehicles assault rifles. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.040 I mean, I was just shocked. Nancy went in front 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:26.919 of a Starbucks. There was a National guardsman there with 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.800 an assault rifle in her tactical gear. Now, I do 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.000 want to mention if people are worried about some inside threat. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.800 The FBI they've been doing multi layer background checks on 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.560 the soldiers and you can see the soldiers walking around. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:46.600 But after they passed that, they passed that layered background, 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.200 they actually will get a special credential and don't have 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.760 to flash that too to get closer to the capitol 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.800 as well. Wow, Scott Taylor in the Thick of It, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.440 joining is from DC WJLA TV ABC, And now to 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.440 our special guest, Colin P. Clark with the Sufan Group. Colin, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.760 it's it's wonderful to get to speak to you. I've 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.039 been so impressed with all you've had to say so 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.360 far regarding security in DC. After living through nine one 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:17.800 one in New York the morning of the attacks on 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.159 the World Trade Centers and investigating the bomb, I'm still 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.680 a prosecutor at the time at now Centennial Park during 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.320 the Olympics in Atlanta. You know, I think I've seen 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.680 it all, but I haven't seen near what there is. 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.200 After that attack on our capitol, I was just stunned. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.280 I was left in tiers about how Americans could attack 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.640 our own capitol. Whether you disagree or agree with the election, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.920 still I was stunned. What do you believe is the 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:55.279 single most devastating threat facing us for tomorrow? Oh, well, 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.640 there's a lot, and thanks again for having me. I 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:02.520 think you know, there's there's clearly a threat from domestic 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.880 terrorism that's been apparent to us in the counter terrorism 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.120 field for years. We've been, you know, attempting to kind 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.760 of raise the alarm bells, as it were. We've we've 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.680 produced numerous, you know, white papers and reports, and in 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:21.760 my community, weird, I'm just a trial lawyer. What do 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.440 you mean you've produced numors white papers? What's that? Sorry, 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.120 like a policy paper looking at what we think are 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:33.120 the most pressing security issues for the United States of America. Now, 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.800 as you know in your reference nine to eleven, for 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.880 the last twenty years, we've been narrowly focused on the 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.800 threat from salafijihataest groups like al Qaeda, like ISIS, like 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.719 their respective affiliates around the world, and for good reason. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.720 We were hit hard at nine to eleven, and those 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.520 groups and very much still present a threat to global security. However, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.800 We've done that at the cost of ignoring threats that 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.080 have been percolating on our own soil. We've now seen those. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:00.839 You know, a lot of people said this is the 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.120 logical culmination of the last four years, but I disagree. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.039 I actually think we're at the beginning of something. I 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:10.600 think we're potentially entering a golden age for domestic flat extremism. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.320 You know just what I don't want to hear twenty 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:18.160 four hours before the inauguration of our new president. And again, Colin, 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.920 I know you, but you don't know me. I'm not 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.480 a Republican, I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. I 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:29.400 frankly don't trust any politician. I think they're all lying. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:34.520 So I cannot be accused of partisanship because I hold 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:39.240 them all in general contempt. But I tell myself an 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.000 equal opportunity hater, I don't want things to go wrong 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:47.080 at this inauguration. You know, we've heard so much about 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:51.000 how this makes us look abroad, this attack on the Capitol. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:56.520 God forbid anything goes wrong tomorrow. That's not my main concern, Colin. 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.120 I'm not that concern about what some other country may 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.920 think about the US. But my big concern is the 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:10.040 safety of everyone at the inauguration. So how does Biden 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.640 and Harris get there? How are they going to get there? Well, 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.760 I think so. We often said in my time at 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.920 their incorporation, where I spent ten years doing work for 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.320 numerous US government agencies, including the Department of Defense and 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.920 the Intelligence community. We're not in the business of getting 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.920 bad people good ideas. So I'm a bit hesitant to 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.960 talk about, you know, exact plans writing. We've already seen 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.640 in the forensics of what happened at the Capitol. Individuals 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.920 were mapping out and planning what they sought to do, 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.360 So I think to go into specifics on that would 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.480 probably be irresponsible. Tell me this column. Are there underground tunnels? 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.920 Very likely? I don't know, And I'm curious. Do you 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.280 think Biden and Harris will go on there the regular 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:01.640 walk to the White House in the open after the inauguration. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.080 I don't know. I'd be surprised that they did. There's 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.520 a lot you mentioned, the deterrent factor and National Guards 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.680 out and force. There's a lot that you do see, 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.160 and that's by design. There's also a lot that you 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.600 won't see, and that's also by design and that's important 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:27.319 to keep in mind as well crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:32.120 so we are talking about the impending inauguration. Everyone is 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.720 setting a prayer and holding the breath that everything goes 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:41.760 off as planned tomorrow. Great, great security measures have been taken. Again. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.480 I'm Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us here 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.599 at Fox Nation in series M one eleven. Take a 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.320 listen to our friends at CBS. Based on a discussion 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.040 I hit earlier today with the US government official. When 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.880 you look at these intelligence bulletins from FBI, DHS, other 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:01.440 government agencies over the last ten days, there a single conclusion, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.680 which is that the greatest threat to the inauguration doesn't 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:09.960 come from foreign terrorist organizations, but rather from domestic violent extremists. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:14.079 They use this law enforcement acronym DVSE. And what these 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:18.360 assessments point to is conditions that have created this environment 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.520 for violence. For example, the deep political divisions in this 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:27.160 country and questions in some people's minds about the legitimacy 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.200 of the presidential election. Then there are racial overlays as well, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.880 and then the ripple effect of the COVID nineteen desks 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.360 and lockdowns, and the intelligence Bulletins assessed that this has 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.920 created the perfect environment for individuals who in the past 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.600 might have sat on the sidelines and not acted out, 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.760 but it's allowed them, almost like fuel onto a fire, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.680 allowed them to cross that threshold to violence and act out. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.239 And I think what's most important is that these intelligence 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:59.679 assessments see the threat from domestic violent extremists or DVASE 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:05.280 really extending well beyond. January twentieth, to doctor Bethany Marshall, 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.040 psychoanalysts joining us from Beverly Hills, star of a new 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.920 Netflix series Bleeding Empire, Doctor Bethany, the word that Catherine 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:17.480 just used emboldened. I believe this attack on the Capitol 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:23.120 that has just gone down may embolden these DVEs domestic 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:29.160 terrorists essentially to act at the inauguration. And doctor Bethany, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.079 you and I have talked about domestic terrorists and these 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.880 obscure fringe groups and many times, and I just always 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.679 had envisioned them as a bunch of drunk guys or 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.040 running through the woods on the weekend with their guns 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.720 in their hands and their shirts off, having a kegger. Essentially, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.679 that's not what it is at all. And why is 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.800 she our friend from CBS, stating that the attack on 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.920 the Capitol, amongst other things, emboldened people, may embolden people 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.920 to act out in a criminal way tomorrow. Nancy, there's 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:07.840 a copycat phenomena. I mean, emulating the behaviors of others 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.240 is such an important part of our development as human beings. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:15.559 It's what allowed us to survive as a species. As children, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.960 we look to our parents, we emulate their behavior, we 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:23.400 model ourselves after them. But unfortunately, like a cancer cell, 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:28.760 this has gone awry. From a social political perspective, where 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.959 people who have a little grain of fear, which then 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.760 turns to anxiety and intolerance for ambiguity, then it turns 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:43.680 to hate, then it foments as homicidal intent. They build 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.800 each other up, they share tips, they talk to each 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:51.880 other online, and they emulate each other's behavior. Look at 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.240 the twelve step book group, look at AA. It may 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.600 seem like a silly example, but one of the things 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.640 we know from a mental health perspective that helps people 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.720 stay sober or engage in good behavior is talking to 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.079 other people and emulating the behaviors of others. That's the 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:14.679 number one healing. Basically, it's a practice we've learned since childhood, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.640 since before we can remember prosecuting felonies. I always noticed 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.320 how the pet mentality would set in. Once one person 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.880 did it, then everybody else would follow. That was of 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.840 that friend of mine. But what's so amazing to me 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.160 back to you, Colin pe Clark joining us from the 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.080 Stufan group. Take a listen to our cut twenty seven 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:38.640 seemingly ordinary people, not these friends group nuts that she 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.080 would expect to show up in full tactical gear, but 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:47.000 for us as a realtor. Listen. The documents include pictures 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.400 showing a woman Investigators identified as Ryan from another angle. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.079 She circled in red, just inside the doors, holding up 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.520 her phone. Moments before the YouTube video ends, she says 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.440 this here, I'm not going any further. I don't need 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.439 to go. Father. Ryan has an active Twitter account. One 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.839 tweet mentioned in the documents, posted just before six pm 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.560 the day of the riots, reads quote, we just stormed 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.000 the Capitol. It was one of the best days of 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:16.400 my life. You know what, it's just almost too much 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.920 for me to take kid to Scott Taylor, Award winning 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:23.000 investigative reporter at w j LATV ABC seven, They're in DC. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.000 You have to watch out not only for the so 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.280 called home grown terrorists that Colin P. Clark is telling 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:35.320 us about. You gotta watch out for the white bread 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.200 girl with the long blonde hair trying to plug her 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.240 realty business as she's storming the capitol. Yeah, y'a also 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.840 have to watch out for a mom and a son 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:49.840 who show up in DC. They're captured on video outside 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:55.080 and inside the Senate chamber. Eric Munchell he's the son, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.040 and Lisa Eisenhart the mom. Eric is in court two 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.960 day this morning in DC. And you might remember, Nancy, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.280 he was a guy who was in the Senate chambers 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.920 with Zip Tie I believe it or not. And let 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.920 me tell you both were arrested in Tennessee. And I 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.320 don't understand a mom and her son doing something like 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:21.800 this together. I mean, how does a mother go along 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.240 and push her son, go along with her son to 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.880 commit a felony. Yeah, you know, Nancy, I think that 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.600 we've all sort of come to the consensus that when 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.800 you are in the middle of a riot, a mob 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.440 mentality seems to take over your logic, your better judgment. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.600 And when you talk about this copycat behavior, you know, Nancy, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.000 you and I have dealt for years with this, aske has, 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.960 doctor Bethany and some of our other guests. Takes a 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:49.440 combination sometimes of provocation and predisposition. It's a toxic combination. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.400 But what you see here, when you have parents taking 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.760 their kids to a riot that's stilled into the Capitol, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.760 has got to be more than that, because you can't 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:03.920 simply argue that anybody here was predisposed necessarily except that, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.400 like you said, you're taking this lesson from the rest 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.360 of them, Bob, which is the worst circumstances under which 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.040 you can make a decision that has been life changing, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.760 unfortunately for so many of those protesters. Magic Colin P. Clark, 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.680 director of Policy and Research at the sifan group focusing 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:23.200 on domestic and transnational terrorism. Take a listen to our 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.840 cut number fourteen and this is our friend Jeff Begauz 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:33.360 at CBS Niece. Listen. In all the chaos that day, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:38.520 someone stole a laptop from the House Speaker's office. Investigators 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.280 say they are looking for Riley June Williams, who was 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:45.280 now a Fusian court Papers show how investigators track the 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.840 Pennsylvania women's movements all the way into Pelosi's office. They 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.880 also say that they got a tip that she intended 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.280 to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.360 who then planned to sell it to Russia's Foreign intelligence service, 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.960 but that through to Colin P. Clark, right, the SI 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.679 fan group. Colin here, you've got this girl, by the way, 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:10.639 she was just arrested running from her mommy's house, willing 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:16.880 to sell or give Nancy Pelosi's laptop to the Russians. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:21.920 How do you prepare for somebody like her, Colin Tomorrow. Well, 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.080 there's a couple of things to mention here. One, we've 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.159 long known that the Russians has been a major counterintelligence threat, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.399 so this, you know, actually runs in parallel with a 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.240 lot of the analysis that we've producing. We've been producing. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.800 The second part is it gives you some sense into 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.439 what these people consider to be patriots. That's all I 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.320 heard was I'm a patriot. Let's go patriots. They're actually 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.679 attacking the US government and the capital and threatening to 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.760 hang the vice president. So in what world are these 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:53.240 people patriots? Nancy? You mentioned education before, you're talking about school. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.080 I think what we've seen is a clear failing of 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.359 the US education system. These people don't know basically history. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.560 They have no idea what happened. They talk about the 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.680 Second Amendment that they have no idea what the fifth 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.760 and seventh Disinesses aren't constitutional scholars, and I don't blame 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.399 them for that. I don't fall them for that. But 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.159 they're learning history through means, and that's really dangerous and 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.880 we're seeing the result of that when you know, when 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:29.919 they use this type of rhetoric, crime stories with Nancy Grace, 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:37.200 guys countdown to the inauguration, and whether you love him 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:44.440 or hate him, Biden is our president now, so get 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:50.040 in line, fall in line. That's the deal. The behavior 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.040 at the US capital will not be tolerated with me 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.960 an all star panel to figure out how we're going 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.760 to protect the inauguration. Take a listen to Tom Lama's 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.520 a BC. Thousands of National Guard troops are on duty 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:08.040 in Washington. By Wednesday, there will be twenty five thousand troops. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.359 Four bridges into the city will be closed, the streets 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.800 are deserted, storefronts are boarded up, Much of the National 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.359 Mall is closed. The FBI saying that last week's attack 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.639 likely emboldened domestic extremists, and tonight a new arrest. Media 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:27.439 personality Tim Jeannette, known as Baked Alaska, allegedly spotted on 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.600 video inside the capitol chanteam quote, patriots are in control. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.560 And Jenna Ryan, the Texas real estate broker who flew 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.919 to DC in a private plane, now asking for a pardon, 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.800 saying she doesn't feel guilty because she thought she was 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.280 following the president. And it's not just Washington on alert tonight, 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.840 at least ten states activating the National Guard. You know 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.960 what I hate, Colump Clark and Scott Jail. I don't 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.800 want everybody Doctor Bethany Wandy Patrick to weigh in on 0:19:53.840 --> 0:20:00.640 this is the categorizing of these criminals that attacked Capitol, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:06.399 categorizing them as what was said going out to they'll 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.639 go home and eat it olive garden and stay at 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:14.720 the holiday inn, suggesting that they're what lower middle class 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:20.960 an educated number one. I really resent that because my 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:27.400 dad and mom struggled their whole life to help us 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:32.320 get through college and graduate school and more graduate school, 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.720 and there's no way to categorize who these people are. 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:45.160 More importantly, forget about might hurt feelings? What about the inauguration? 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:49.960 Columpy Clark, who are these people? That are joining together 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.639 to try to thwart our country. You've got this realtor, 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.720 you've got to judge his son, You've got that idiot 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:01.760 baked Alaska. People from all walks of life joining together 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.400 to attack our country. How can you prepare for that tomorrow? 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.720 It's difficult. And I've also, you know, heard these people 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.160 referred to as rubs and rednecks and you know, all 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:17.800 sorts of it's not I think what it shows you 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.719 is that the what what what I would call the 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.920 far right, far right extremists of this country. And that's 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.080 a very broad tent, to very broad umbrella, and there's 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.600 numerous subcategories in there, and we could talk about any 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.920 of those. But I think at any you know, since 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.440 since at any point in recent memory, this this movement 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:40.720 has become more diversified geographically, uh, socioeconomically, and demographically. And 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.600 I think what we saw, you know, the capital was 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:46.399 a cross section of people from the United States, and 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.639 I think, you know, we also we've been having this 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.480 discussion and it would be disingenuous if we didn't mention 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.600 the role of the president, because the president has falsely 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.840 claimed the election was stolen. He's refused to concede, and 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.639 he's cast a Biden inistration is illegitimate, which it's not. 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:05.200 And he essentially has been the main provocateur firing these 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.040 people up and unleashing them. So well, you know, that's 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.359 an interesting thing. And I'm more concerned about the security 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.480 of the inauguration and the president elect than I am 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:18.919 about who did what. But as far as stirring up 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:25.520 the seemingly normal citizens to attack our capital. But I 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:32.000 do know this, Wendy Patrick, California Prosecutor. I kept waiting 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:37.840 to see if there was evidence of election fraud, because 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:42.679 if there was, I get the anger. But I never 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:48.199 saw any substantial evidence to show me there was election fraud. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.600 I didn't dismiss it out of hand. I waited to 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.560 see it. I never saw it. But the other thing 0:22:54.840 --> 0:23:01.520 beyond that, Wendy Patrick, mind control. That doesn't hold up 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:05.359 in a court of law. You can't say I storm 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:10.199 the capital because I thought he told me too. No, 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:14.120 that is not legal defense under the law. No, it's 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.359 not a legal defense. And you wonder whether or not 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.960 it was ever intended to be put forth as a 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:22.520 legal defense. It sounds more like people's emotions got the 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.119 better of them. And they did things they knew they 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.719 shouldn't have done, which is a very interesting component to 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.600 the point that we're making about there being no demographic 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.159 profile for the types of people that did this. That 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.439 is why we monitor social media and digital chatter as 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.040 much as we do, because you couldn't have picked these 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.000 guys out of a crowd. There is nothing at their backgrounds, 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.360 their history, their socioeconomic status that you would have thought 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.639 would have predisposed them to do what they did, certainly 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.160 not some claim of a mind control. So you're right, accountability, 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.760 isn't that what we're now seeing? And all of that 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.800 footage that we collected is now leading to arrest the 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:59.520 site hardening Nancy that's going on today. I hope to 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.879 God we'll have a peaceful transition tomorrow so we're not 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.120 in the position of doing the same thing after the inauguration. 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:14.119 Scott was that Colin or Scott? This is Scott Scott. 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.359 I was just going to you about the bridge is 0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.359 closing and the tunnel's closing, because I know how that 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.240 felt in New York after the attack. I couldn't leave. 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.840 The planes weren't working unless I wanted to walk home 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.800 to Georgia. I was stuck. Now tell me that and 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.640 other measures taken and whatever you were going to jump 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:34.879 in with, go ahead. I wanted to jump in first 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.360 and say, you know when that all happened. I mean, 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.480 I was in DC on January sixth, and there was 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.560 hundreds of thousand, one hundred thousand, one hundred thousand and 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.560 fifty whatever the group was, not everybody stormed in there. 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.680 UM and we all know that, UM, and the FBI 0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.440 is going through and picking out the people. We've been 0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:58.159 doing that at WJLA identifying. We've identified about seventeen people 0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.240 through social media. But but I want to mention that 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.560 you got to wonder how organized any of these groups are, 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.239 or if there are groups who showed up there, and 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.639 if they're talking on social media. But one thing I 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.879 do know for certain, the National Park Police Nancy have 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.600 curtailed the amount of permits it's issuing due to the 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.879 security lockdown. In twenty sixteen, when I was here, there 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:24.920 was sixty groups out on the streets of protesting, and 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.480 there were permits that were issued and there were skirmits 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:32.160 ships between police and protesters. Right now, there's only two 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:36.200 groups who are applied for permits officially, and only two 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.320 have been approved. They have to go through security, they 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:41.320 only can have about one hundred people and no interaction 0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:45.120 with each other. So I think they're trying as much 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:50.520 as possible to keep a lid on any organized group protests. 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.639 Back to Colin P. Clark, I know you're holding your 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:59.520 cards closed to the vast director policy research sufon group. Colin, 0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:06.840