WEBVTT - One on One: Arielle Kebbel 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:13.800 I am all Inlets. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:20.640 You, I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.960 Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in podcast one 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.680 eleven productions I Heart Radio. We are going to speak 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:33.159 with the one, the Only Ariel Kebble, who played the 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.120 role of Lindsay Lister for nine episodes from two thousand 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.360 and three to two thousand and four. She is a 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.520 stars Hollow teen, a local teen who attends stars Hollow 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.199 High with Lane and Dean, and attended primary school with 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:50.720 Rory as well. She starts dating Dean Forrester after his 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.440 relationship with Rory ends, and they marry in two thousand 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.920 and three, but divorce a year later after Lindsay discovers 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.800 that Dean cheated on her with Rory. And we have 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.360 a little hat, a little bit to say about that, 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.000 didn't we. The first time we see Ariel is Lindsay 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.559 is in season three, episode fifteen, Face Off. The last 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.600 time we see is season five, episode two, A Messenger 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:19.160 nothing More. She has starred in a number of films 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.600 and buck fastin your Seat Belts. She's got quite the resume. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.880 She's been in prestigious film festivals such as Brooklyn Brothers, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.680 Beat The Best, I Melt With You, starring Rob Low 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.920 and Jeremy Piven supporting characters, which premiered in twenty twelve 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:40.319 Tribeca Film Festival. She played Gia Matteo in a final 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.840 installment of Fifty Shades of Gray saga, Fifty Shades Freed, 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.840 which premiered February twenty eighteen, breaking box office records. Her 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.360 other film credits include John Tucker Must Die, The Uninvited, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:57.520 The Grudge, To Think Like a Man, An Aquamarine. Most recently, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.080 Ariel can be seen playing Lucy Otto and Fox's Nine 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:05.040 to one one, and Kimberly in Netflix's After We Fell 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.760 and After Ever Happy. In twenty twenty, she played the 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:14.120 lead role of Amelia in the NBC series Lincoln Rhyme 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.880 Hunt for the Bone Collector. On the small screen, she 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.520 started opposite Dwayne Johnson and the HBO hit series Ballers. 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.000 She also caught the attention of critics and audiences alike 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.720 with her scene stealing turn as the villainous Brittany in 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.760 lifetimes critically acclaimed series Unreal, a performance which Entertainment Weekly 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.880 cited is one of the best of twenty and fifteen. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.640 Ariel is perhaps most familiar to television audiences from her 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.600 role in the CW's The Vampire Diaries, which she played 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.840 Lexi Branson. Additional television credits include My God, This Girl 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:51.120 Works a Lot, Uh, recurring roles on Gilmore Girl's Life, Unexpected, 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.959 Grounded for Life, The League, The Grinder, CW's nine O 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:55.880 two one zero, as well as guest starring roles on 0:02:55.919 --> 0:03:00.400 True Blood, Hawaii five zero, Law and Order SVU. Let 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:05.800 me take a breath, Let us welcome. Ariel Kebble. Hey, Hey, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:07.320 how you doing? 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.200 Long time no talk? 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.280 You haven't aged? What's going on? What's happening? Where are you? 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:15.000 Where do you live? 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:16.840 I live in New York. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.120 You're in New York and you have an aged This 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:20.080 is not possible. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.720 Well that's very kind of view. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.160 I just I just got back from New York. I 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.000 was in New York for three days. A city is 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:31.239 has come to life. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.480 Again, it has it has. What were you doing in 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:34.960 New York? 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.680 We were doing the sort of a scale down upfront 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.680 for I'm on a new show that the CW picked up, 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.160 and they're going to add to their fall schedule, so 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.120 they brought brought us there to meet you know you 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.640 know to hobnob and do well relations. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.480 I love New York. I'm a little I call it 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.280 fake up state. I'm about fifteen minutes outside the city 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.200 on lands. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:56.720 Yeah. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.640 Well good, that's a good place to be. That's beautiful 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:00.520 country up there. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:01.840 Yeah. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.400 A lot of farms, a lot of it's just great 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.880 suburbs and trees and lakes and forests. It's wonderful. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:12.040 It is. I grew up riding horses, and I am 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.880 very passionate about horse rescue. I work with an organization 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.320 called Skydog Sanctuary. They're out west in Malibu and Oregan. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.280 They help rescue wild horses from slaughter and roundups. And 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.920 a lot of people don't know our tax dollars go 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:30.560 to these roundups every single year, and it's unfortunately very political. 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.120 We can we won't. Well, I know we're here to 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.000 talk about Gilmore girls. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.400 No, no, you talk about anything you want, talking about 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:36.880 anything you want. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.279 But it's it's a it's a huge passion of mine, 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.719 and it's you know, we America used to have two 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.679 million wild horses and now we have like under fifty thousand. 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.640 There's over sixty thousand in holding, and it's just a 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.000 really horrible situation that we need to fix. And so 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.680 part of me being out here is being on land 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.920 and working with horses. And I rescued my first must 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:05.000 saying through Skydog recently, and so it's been a huge, 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:10.320 huge life change, but something I just I feel I 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:11.000 need to be doing. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:15.160 Yeah. Great, and it's called Skydog. Is there a website 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.560 Skydog dot Commerce. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:22.960 There is Skydog Sanctuary, very huge on Instagram and Facebook. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.599 You also have a website and Claire Staples is the 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.760 founder and she is the real deal. She is horsewoman 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:32.720 through and through. 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:38.160 Fantastic. Well, congratulations, I hope it's going well. People can 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.800 go there and donate if they want. I guess, oh 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:45.880 you'll donate. Donations are always accepted and appreciated. But let's 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:51.160 let's talk about Gilmore. Let's get into it a little bit. Lindsey, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.240 you are much discussed over here, let me tell you. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.640 And then here you are here on the hot seat. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.400 I think one one, I think we're more on the 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:02.320 hot seat than you are. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.120 Yeah. Well, I have to say when I heard you 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.080 guys you all asked me on. I was thrilled because 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.400 I know you've had so many amazing guests come on, 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.560 and I feel like, you know, it's just time Lindsay 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.000 gets her day in court, you. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.159 Know, Lindsay Lindsay. You know, here's the thing I think 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:24.719 about Lindsay was how they structured her story, forced me 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:30.480 to root for Dean and Rory, and then after the fact, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.880 after the damage was done to the marriage, to everybody's lives, 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.960 then they start to develop your character and then people 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.440 then we start to like you and then empathize with you. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.800 And I just thought that was I don't know, it 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:45.919 was a little tricky for me. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.760 You know, it was tricky. It was tricky, and I 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.719 think you know, I was so young. That was my 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.800 first job. I moved from Florida to Los Angeles for 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.400 that job, right, I was seventeen years old. My first 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.320 day on set, my mom was still with me, you know. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.800 So and as the show went on, you know, I 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.840 became an adult on set. But I was so young 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.480 and I was so thrilled to be part of the show. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.960 I just I showed up every day just wanting to 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.080 learn and do the best that I could and absorb 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.440 everything that was happening around me. So it's funny it 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.920 even for me, and like, of course, I didn't love 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.560 what happened to Lindsay. But I think I also just 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.440 understood the story in terms of, like, yeah, the two 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.480 leads are the love interests, you know. You know, like 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.120 so I never really took it personally that way, but 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.880 I don't think it was until later, in this kind 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.880 of resurgence and people finding the show again and looking 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:53.800 back at clips that I'm like, my god, that was awful, 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:59.160 Like yeah, the way that they pegged her. I mean, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.600 like the you know, like like I was just rewatching 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.320 the scene to get to remind myself. I'm like, Okay, 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.800 how bad was that dinner scene? And it's like he 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.040 comes home from being with Rory and she's like, my 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:15.520 mom made gummy bear brownies, you know, and I'm like, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:20.800 oh my god, like you yes, I had to this character. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.320 It was a very challenging. I had to be likable, 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.440 but I was such a victim. But I was also 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.800 like painted as like this goody two shoes who just 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.000 like makes brownies with gummy bears and pot roast, and like, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.640 you know, it's like, how how can you like that? 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:37.520 That's so annoying? 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.240 Man. That was an unforgiving role. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.040 It was just so yeah, So I it was hard 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:51.480 and then but in retrospect, I'm I it's like, man, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.959 I would like to see I would like to see 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.880 Lindsay's redemption. You know, it really wasn't She wasn't get 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.600 a full shot. I don't think she was given a full, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:07.040 like well full, well rounded character. And I understand that 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:12.640 that's kind of for the story sake, but and I 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.760 think I just got so used to people hating me 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.160 that I was like, yeah, well that's my job. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.559 I'm really for character development. I don't care if it's 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.080 a smaller role or it's a role that's not going 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:29.160 to last. And they know that, but I just, you know, 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.320 just I want to see the character developed. I want 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.079 to get to know or I want to see them 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.040 in a relationship. I want to see their struggles. Otherwise, 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.640 how do we take the ride? And then we become 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.880 very biased and it's just sort of manipulative. It feels manipulative. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:48.040 I don't know, I was somewhat We discussed the Rory 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:57.680 Dean drama the Lindsay drama at length, we really did so. Anyway, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.640 so you're seventeen years old, you're coming from floor, you're 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.560 acting in Florida, you're doing high school plays, I assume, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.600 and you're and everybody's saying how amazing you are? And 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.319 how do you go from Florida to Hollywood with your mom? 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:14.280 How does that? How does that happen? 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.240 Well, I funny, I actually wasn't doing plays. My sister 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.000 was doing plays. I was doing more commercials and music 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:27.200 videos and anything I could, a lot of modeling, you know, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.520 anything I could to understand what the set experience was like. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.000 And then uh, and I was in very serious acting classes. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.160 I had taken myself out of public school and put 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.320 myself in a private performing art school so I could 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.839 graduate early. My parents taught me I had to reinvest 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.280 any money and made from the business into my business. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.360 So like I was paying for I was helping pay 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.240 for my school, I was paying for headshots. I was, 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:56.720 you know, really working towards making this my career. 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.800 You're really motivated at a young age, Yeah, I was. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.480 I was, And because in the back of my mind, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.160 I just thought, the sooner I go out there and 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.720 try this, the sooner I'm going to know if it 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.720 works or not, and I can get on with my life. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.839 So for me, I was never I was always a 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.080 great student. I was never interested in college. But it 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.600 wasn't because I didn't love school. It was because I 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:16.840 was like, I just need to get out here and 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.920 try this, and I don't want to waste time because 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.920 if it doesn't work, I need to find a different career, 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.000 you know. And then I had agents that would put 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.720 me on tape for things, so it was Freaky. I 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.200 tested for Freaky Friday. They flew me to LA I 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.800 didn't get me. But then I came back for Mean Girls. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:38.199 I didn't get it. Then I came back for Mean Girls. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.880 I was close on that. Somewhere along the way my 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:45.000 tape got passed around. I got representation, and then my 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:52.800 agent sent me a VHS remember those ed and they said, hey, 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.880 there's this show, the Gilmour Girls on the WB I 0:11:55.920 --> 0:12:04.120 missed that little dancing frog and they said right and 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.560 uh and they said, hey, the only requirements are you 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.720 have to talk fast and you have to be five 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.640 eight or taller. And I was like, in my mind, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.920 I'm like great in the bag, I got this. And 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:22.000 then so just timing wise, I said, hey, I want 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.160 to finish my life in Florida and then move out 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.000 for pilot season, which would coincide with this audition. So 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.560 that's what we did. We packed up the car my 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:35.679 mom and I packed our record player in records and 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.240 and I went to l A and I had the 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.040 audition the next day, and then a week later I 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:40.560 was on set. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:42.840 Who is it? Who is it? The audition? 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:48.880 It was Kenny Ortega, he was checking the episodes, and 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:54.000 it was Amy and Dan, I think, the casting director 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:59.480 and casting associate. And it was interesting. I bombed my 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.920 first and I wanted to run out of the room, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.319 and he put his hand down almost like kind of 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.200 stopped me at the door, and he said get back 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.280 in here. He's like, take a breath, and he goes, 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.680 put yourself in this girl's shoes. You can do this. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.560 I know you can. And he said, she feels awkward. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.600 It was the scene the audition scene was when I 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.520 run into Rory at the ice skating at the ice 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.480 hockey rink and I know that I'm with Dean, but 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.640 I know that she doesn't know yet, and so I'm 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.200 a little awkward and she doesn't know why. And I 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.760 did a take two and it was like something came 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.920 from above and it channeled through me and I knew 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.200 when I walked out of that room. I felt so 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.640 good and I felt so grateful to Kenny and to 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.240 the entire team in the room that allowed this space 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.080 to work, you know, to work through it that I 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.040 said I'm gonna be okay, and truly in that moment, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:54.760 I'm in sure. Of course, I would have lowed to 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.520 get the roll, but I didn't. I knew I was 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.320 up against so much. I didn't really expect to get 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.320 the roll. I just felt amazing that I knew I 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.000 was in LA for a reason. I'm like, I can 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.560 do this, you know, and then the cherry on top 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:07.240 was getting it. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.920 Wow. All right, first down set, you meet Jared, right, Yeah, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:13.679 what was I like? 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:19.160 Well, I had this thing when I was younger where 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.680 I tried to like be cool all the time, or 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:27.160 like hide my nerves with being cool. So we're in 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.160 I meet him for the first time in hair makeup 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:35.360 trailer and I'm just trying to act cool and I'm like, oh, hey, Dean, 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.560 what's up? So I'll be working with you anyways, Dean, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.000 do you want to talk about the scene? And you know, 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.280 he's very he's being very nice back to me, and 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:50.400 finally he goes, my name's Jared, and I had been 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:56.040 so nervous. I had been calling him by his character name. Hey, 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.760 that's a your makeup trailer, and I was like, oh 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.800 my god, I wanted to and hide. And then we 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.920 get to set and the first scene up. It wasn't 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.320 the first scene, it was the second scene, but it's 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.560 definitely My first day of filming is the kissing scene. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.240 And it was my first on screen kiss. Ever. 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.240 So your first thing you do in your first job 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:26.680 is to kiss Jared Padleeki. Yeah, okay, that's what tell. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:32.360 After I've called him Dean, I like probably looked like 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.160 such a fangirl. In reality, I hadn't really watched the 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.320 show other than the clips, so I was just naive. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:43.320 But anyways, so then I'm thinking, okay, I got this 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.320 be cool. He comes up to me as we're rehearsing. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:52.160 He's like, so, is this really your first on screen kiss? 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.400 I either go white or red, I don't know. But 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.080 I look over and I see my mom and she's 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:04.120 like and she had freaking told Jared like, I don't know, 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.800 to be nice, treat me nice. It was my first 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.520 kiss or something. I don't know. All I know is 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:16.680 I was like, so my cover was blown. I could 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.640 no longer play it cool. Everybody knew. I was nervous 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.920 as hell. It was my first day and my first 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:24.160 miss and that's it. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:31.720 Wow. Yeah, So you did you know Lindsay would end 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.520 up marrying? Did they tell you that? 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.480 No? I thought that that came out of left field. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:41.280 I thought that was bizarre. I mean, again, this is 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.440 my first show, so I didn't know how things worked. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.840 So I had a mixed reaction because on the one hand, 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.120 I thought I'm very young to be getting married, and 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.400 then on the other hand, I thought, well, I guess 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.240 this means they like me and I'm in the show now, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.040 So right. 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.560 Did you think that? Did you think that that meant, oh, 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.200 here comes a six year deal. Here it comes, They're 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:05.040 going to lock me in. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.680 I didn't even know about the six years, Okay, I think, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.920 but I did think that I was going to have 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.560 I thought I thought I was going to people were 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.280 going to root for me more. I thought like this 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.040 was their way of bringing me kind of into the clan, 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:28.119 versus creating drama for Rory. And I think that the 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.359 thing was is I was so young and naive. I 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.800 never had a conversation with the producers it was like 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.000 to me, it was like, Oh, they're in their throne 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.959 over there, leave them alone. So why had just asked 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.560 anyone or had a conversation. I'm sure I would have 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.840 been filled in, but I for some reason, I thought like, oh, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:51.720 don't talk to them unless they talk to you. So 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.199 every script I got I was really I had no 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.520 idea where my character was going. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:03.000 So you know, fans obviously are very much invested. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.560 Well, let me just tell you this that I swear 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.400 to God this just happened. So our appoint in time 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.520 was twelve three, at two fifty five. My dear friend 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.800 who is a producer and she has two girls. We 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.760 worked on a show and I got very close to 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.720 her two girls. They're young, they are let me tell 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.960 you they're nine and thirteen. She texts me this picture. 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.120 I kid you not. I don't know if you can see. 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.560 That's Lindsay and her mom in that like multicolored scarf, 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.240 which is actually my scarf, and wardrobe liked it so 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.719 much they have me wear it. She texts me this 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.479 picture and she goes the girls and I are very 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.480 protective of Lindsay, and I write back, Holy, I'm literally 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:44.680 about to do a two Worlds podcast and then she goes, well, 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.639 you can tell them how your nine year old and 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.440 three year old buddies are binging and very invested. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.520 Uh huh, yes they are. They are. So did you 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:59.120 get did fans approach you? Were you getting negative feedback 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.520 from fans? Were you? Were you kind of like a 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:02.320 bad girl? 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.600 Well? I wasn't, honestly, Thank god Instagram didn't exist in 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:08.320 I don't know if I would have been strong enough. 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:14.840 I there, like after the first episode aired. I remember 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.359 I called my mom every day. We talked every day, 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.480 and so I was on the phone with my mom 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.679 and I was going to Coffee Bean in my juicy 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.439 couturs to jumpsuit as you did when you were an 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.000 actress in La in two thousand and six. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:27.800 I think I remember that it was pink, right. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:30.720 I think I had a pink one. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.680 You had a tan one. I think a tan one 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.919 and a light blue a baby I had. 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.000 Yeah, the blue was my favorite, But I. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:44.680 Do I do remember the pink buddy. Oh my god. 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.240 So I'm on the phone and these girls tap me 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.080 on the shoulder in line at Coffee Bean and they say, 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.959 excuse me, are you Aeriel Cable and I'm like, well, 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.880 hang on, yeah, and they go, oh my god from 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.080 Gilmore Girls and I go yeah, yeah, and I'm thinking, oh, 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:08.400 this is my first we hate you. And my mom 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.480 heard the whole thing, and I was like, well, welcome. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.800 Hollywood baptism by fire. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.760 But it's interesting because this resurgence now people are more 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.439 on Lindsay's side. My entire first half of my career, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:25.840 everyone hated her hands down. 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:27.920 Maybe that's what the next reboot's going to be. Maybe 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.200 it's I get my wedding and you get your comeuppance. 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.399 Right, Hey, I would love that. I'm all for that. 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.000 I'm not gonna lie little. I was a little hurt. 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.679 I wasn't in the other one. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.280 Oh that, Oh the reboots, the Netflix stuff. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.640 Yeah, I was hoping we'd get to see like Lindsay 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.159 doing well in that. But so I still feel like 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.600 her day is coming, you know what. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:55.040 Yeah, it would have made complete sense given who they 0:20:55.240 --> 0:21:00.520 invited into that world, right, Yeah, I know, I know, 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.720 I know, I know, I know. All right, let's talk 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:09.520 about Dean and Roy getting together the way they did. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.080 When you read that, did your jaw drop? 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.320 It did? Because I felt I felt cheated on by 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:21.399 the show. But but I'll tell you why is because 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:27.000 again I didn't get any warning. So but again, looking 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.240 back on it, I also didn't communicate with the producers, 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.560 so you know, it's a two way street. I was young, 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.480 I was fresh. I would I think they knew I 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:36.800 would just show up and do whatever was whatever was 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:42.879 there like, so, so it was incredibly shocking for me. 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.359 But I also was kind of used to being shocked 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.880 because we had already had the wedding episode come in, 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.720 you know, so like I was equally shocked reading that 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:53.760 I was getting married because I think the way it 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.840 read it was like we were only in a I 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.040 was only in a few episodes in whom we were married. 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.800 So it even it wasn't just a shock of having 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.360 a being young and being married, It was that our 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:06.679 relationship in and of itself was young, you know, like 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.119 it felt like we we were still dating and then 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.159 all of a sudden we were married. And again, so 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.600 I didn't know how to feel about that, But again 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.159 I wanted to just stay positive and go, well, I 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:19.800 guess this means they like me. I guess I'm on 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.800 the show more, you know. And then when the Rory 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:28.880 Dean thing, happened. I was very shocked. I was surprised 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:33.280 I didn't get a heads up, but again because I 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.639 think I thought, well, does this mean I'm off the show? 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.639 It was just very tumultuous, and in my own brain 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.439