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Speaker 1: I am all Inlets.

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Speaker 2: You, I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in podcast one

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Speaker 1: eleven productions I Heart Radio. We are going to speak

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Speaker 1: with the one, the Only Ariel Kebble, who played the

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Speaker 1: role of Lindsay Lister for nine episodes from two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three to two thousand and four. She is a

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Speaker 1: stars Hollow teen, a local teen who attends stars Hollow

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Speaker 1: High with Lane and Dean, and attended primary school with

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Speaker 1: Rory as well. She starts dating Dean Forrester after his

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Speaker 1: relationship with Rory ends, and they marry in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three, but divorce a year later after Lindsay discovers

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Speaker 1: that Dean cheated on her with Rory. And we have

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Speaker 1: a little hat, a little bit to say about that,

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Speaker 1: didn't we. The first time we see Ariel is Lindsay

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Speaker 1: is in season three, episode fifteen, Face Off. The last

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Speaker 1: time we see is season five, episode two, A Messenger

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Speaker 1: nothing More. She has starred in a number of films

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Speaker 1: and buck fastin your Seat Belts. She's got quite the resume.

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Speaker 1: She's been in prestigious film festivals such as Brooklyn Brothers,

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Speaker 1: Beat The Best, I Melt With You, starring Rob Low

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Speaker 1: and Jeremy Piven supporting characters, which premiered in twenty twelve

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Speaker 1: Tribeca Film Festival. She played Gia Matteo in a final

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Speaker 1: installment of Fifty Shades of Gray saga, Fifty Shades Freed,

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Speaker 1: which premiered February twenty eighteen, breaking box office records. Her

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Speaker 1: other film credits include John Tucker Must Die, The Uninvited,

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Speaker 1: The Grudge, To Think Like a Man, An Aquamarine. Most recently,

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Speaker 1: Ariel can be seen playing Lucy Otto and Fox's Nine

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Speaker 1: to one one, and Kimberly in Netflix's After We Fell

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Speaker 1: and After Ever Happy. In twenty twenty, she played the

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Speaker 1: lead role of Amelia in the NBC series Lincoln Rhyme

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Speaker 1: Hunt for the Bone Collector. On the small screen, she

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Speaker 1: started opposite Dwayne Johnson and the HBO hit series Ballers.

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Speaker 1: She also caught the attention of critics and audiences alike

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Speaker 1: with her scene stealing turn as the villainous Brittany in

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Speaker 1: lifetimes critically acclaimed series Unreal, a performance which Entertainment Weekly

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Speaker 1: cited is one of the best of twenty and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Ariel is perhaps most familiar to television audiences from her

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Speaker 1: role in the CW's The Vampire Diaries, which she played

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Speaker 1: Lexi Branson. Additional television credits include My God, This Girl

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Speaker 1: Works a Lot, Uh, recurring roles on Gilmore Girl's Life, Unexpected,

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Speaker 1: Grounded for Life, The League, The Grinder, CW's nine O

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Speaker 1: True Blood, Hawaii five zero, Law and Order SVU. Let

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Speaker 1: me take a breath, Let us welcome. Ariel Kebble. Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: how you doing?

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Speaker 3: Long time no talk?

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Speaker 1: You haven't aged? What's going on? What's happening? Where are you?

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Speaker 1: Where do you live?

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Speaker 3: I live in New York.

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Speaker 1: You're in New York and you have an aged This

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Speaker 1: is not possible.

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Speaker 3: Well that's very kind of view.

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Speaker 1: I just I just got back from New York. I

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Speaker 1: was in New York for three days. A city is

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Speaker 1: has come to life.

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Speaker 3: Again, it has it has. What were you doing in

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Speaker 1: We were doing the sort of a scale down upfront

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Speaker 1: and they're going to add to their fall schedule, so

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Speaker 1: they brought brought us there to meet you know you

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Speaker 3: I love New York. I'm a little I call it

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Speaker 3: fake up state. I'm about fifteen minutes outside the city

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well good, that's a good place to be. That's beautiful

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Speaker 1: A lot of farms, a lot of it's just great

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Speaker 3: It is. I grew up riding horses, and I am

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Speaker 3: very passionate about horse rescue. I work with an organization

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Speaker 3: They help rescue wild horses from slaughter and roundups. And

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Speaker 3: We can we won't. Well, I know we're here to

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Speaker 1: No, no, you talk about anything you want, talking about

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Speaker 3: But it's it's a it's a huge passion of mine,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Great, and it's called Skydog. Is there a website

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Speaker 1: Skydog dot Commerce.

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Speaker 3: There is Skydog Sanctuary, very huge on Instagram and Facebook.

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Speaker 3: You also have a website and Claire Staples is the

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Speaker 1: Fantastic. Well, congratulations, I hope it's going well. People can

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Speaker 1: go there and donate if they want. I guess, oh

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Speaker 1: you'll donate. Donations are always accepted and appreciated. But let's

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Gilmore. Let's get into it a little bit. Lindsey,

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Speaker 1: you are much discussed over here, let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: And then here you are here on the hot seat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I have to say when I heard you

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Speaker 1: Know, Lindsay Lindsay. You know, here's the thing I think

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Speaker 3: You know, it was tricky. It was tricky, and I

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, the way that they pegged her. I mean,

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Speaker 3: how bad was that dinner scene? And it's like he

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Speaker 3: It was a very challenging. I had to be likable,

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Speaker 3: It was just so yeah, So I it was hard

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Speaker 3: Lindsay's redemption. You know, it really wasn't She wasn't get

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Speaker 1: I'm really for character development. I don't care if it's

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I was somewhat We discussed the Rory

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Speaker 1: so you're seventeen years old, you're coming from floor, you're

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Speaker 1: acting in Florida, you're doing high school plays, I assume,

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Speaker 1: You're really motivated at a young age, Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get it. Then I came back for Mean Girls.

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Speaker 3: But it's interesting because this resurgence now people are more

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now you know, we're getting a little further

433
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: along the lines with this character starting to develop, you

434
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: getting married. What was the reaction from fans out there

435
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: in the world, and uh, when that happened.

436
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: I think they still hated me, you know, I don't

437
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: think that really. I mean, look, every now and again

438
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: i'd have someone come up it would be like a

439
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: mother daughter duo, and they'd be like, we love your character,

440
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: we feel bad for her, you know, but forty of

441
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: people did not like her. And but now in the

442
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: last I don't know, three years, five years now, the

443
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 3: majority of people that could up to me say Lindsay

444
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: deserved better. I know what she's doing now, feel so

445
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 3: bad for her. We're protective of her, you know, and

446
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, thank you. You know she was great?

447
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you know.

448
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: So that's felt like a really just pleasant surprise. And

449
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: I do have to say I've always thanked there was another.

450
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: There was two big moments for me on that show

451
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: in terms of professional learning, and the first was Kenny

452
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: Ortega when he helped me get I truly believe helped

453
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: me get the role because he the direction he gave me,

454
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 3: and I've always thanked him for that. And the other

455
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: is Amy Sherman Palladino. She directed the episode I always

456
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: get this wrong. The fans are gonna kill me. I

457
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: always go, is it pot roast or roast b or

458
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: meat loaf? But I think it was pot ROAs you

459
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 3: can tell I don't cook it. Still, the whole episode

460
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: was like, if I just get this pot roast right,

461
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: Dean will love me and I and fix our marriage.

462
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 3: And she was directing that episode, and that's actually what

463
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: she had said to me, because when I'm in there

464
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: ordering the meat and I'm kind of freaking out, what

465
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 3: I wasn't understanding was the subtext of like I have

466
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: to save my marriage. I was reading it more like

467
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 3: I want to be perfect for him, so kind of

468
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: the same feeling, but one was much deeper and had

469
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: more weight than the other. And she was the one

470
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: that came in and talked to me like that. And

471
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: again at the time, I felt like this was one

472
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: of those really special moments, like woman to woman, where

473
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 3: she was kind of asking me to grow up a

474
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: little bit, and it was a deeper thing that was

475
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: going on. And I really didn't know that or clock

476
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: that until we had that conversation. And that always stuck

477
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: with me too, because those are deep. You know, when

478
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: a woman is going through those feelings, it doesn't matter

479
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: even if she's a young bride or a young woman.

480
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: It's a lot, it's a it's very layered. And I

481
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: hadn't clocked that till she talk to me about that,

482
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: and I always I always loved that.

483
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk about when you discovered the letter.

484
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: Oh what letter? The letter? Oh? When I throw this

485
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: stuff out the window? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yes,

486
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: I remember. I remember.

487
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: Tell us, tell us what that was? Like, Uh, do

488
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: you think Lindsey handled that the right way? Is there

489
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: any other way to handle it? I mean, what do

490
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: you think tell us about tell us about that. Tell

491
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: us what you remember about that day.

492
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing. If I'm talking to like, you know,

493
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: if I'm trying to be a role model today, I

494
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: would say, like, no, go to therapy. But let me

495
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: tell you something. When I got that scene, I was

496
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: so happy because I felt like I had all this

497
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: pent up, every script It was like what, like, wow,

498
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: I'm just getting like murdered over here. So when I

499
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 3: had this seat, I was like, hell, yes, this is

500
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: my moment. I am going to rage. And that's what

501
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: I did. And I think I heared the shit out

502
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: of them because the way I was yelling was I mean,

503
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 3: it was always scripted. I throw stuff out the window.

504
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: But I remember the boom guy coming in having to

505
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: fix the mic because I was yelling and I was shaking.

506
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: I was I mean, I was like a terror and

507
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 3: I wanted it to be that way. And the thing is,

508
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: you don't even really I mean again, I don't even

509
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: think you if someone could find the footage of what

510
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: we shot versus what people saw, I would be so

511
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: curious because I went for it. That was fun. That

512
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: was a fun day.

513
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: You went down and got that stuff. H man. Yeah,

514
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: those are fun days when you can empty the tank.

515
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: Was that the only scene you had that day? And

516
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: you could empty the tank and you didn't have anything

517
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: else to do the rest of the day.

518
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I was it

519
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: like that episode or if not?

520
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, okay, so yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.

521
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: Oh no, I just I remember going into the work

522
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: that day being like, I'm gonna load.

523
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Both barrels. You're coming in delivering both barrels. Uh? And

524
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: you did that? Was that was a harrowing scene. That

525
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: was That was quite something. Do you think Lindsay Uh

526
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: deserved a better send off than just that little sort

527
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: of silent conference. You didn't really say anything at the gazebo,

528
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: did you? Your mother, you know, gave gave Rory what for,

529
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: but you know, you just you didn't have They didn't

530
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: give anything to say. There was nothing. Did you get

531
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: descript had issues?

532
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: You know? I you know, I think exactly what you

533
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: said is why I would love for her to have

534
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: some life now. You know, I think that it's time

535
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: it really she deserves more.

536
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah.

537
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: And it is odd that you didn't come back now

538
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: that I think about it. I mean, you've got quite

539
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: the resume, You've got the chops. No, no really, I

540
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: mean your career has been terrific, and yeah, it's kind

541
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: of odd you didn't come back. I I thanks for

542
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: bringing that up, because that's uh, that's something we'll go

543
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: to the mat on next time.

544
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: Oh, well, thank you.

545
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: That would be if I have anything to say about it.

546
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: And I don't.

547
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: I know, I know no, And I've seen Amy a

548
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: few times and we have good laughs. We have a

549
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: great relationship. We have a great thing. I you know,

550
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: I didn't take it personally in the sense that I

551
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: was like, why I didn't they invite me back? I

552
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: Moore was bummed because I thought, Wow, this could have

553
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: been a cool moment, you know. When I when I

554
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: found out, I wasn't I know how these things work.

555
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: It's like, you've only got so much time to tell

556
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: so many stories. I mean, I'm in the middle of

557
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: producing something right now where some characters are coming back

558
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: from something, and you know, it's it's hard rearranging everybody,

559
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: and some people are coming back, some people aren't. And so,

560
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: you know, I never took it personally, but I was

561
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: more just personally bummed for you know, because I thought, oh,

562
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: this would be a cool moment, you know, right right.

563
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: Right right, Let's talk about other things that you're doing.

564
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: You mentioned something that you're producing. Now, what does that

565
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about I am?

566
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: I am, So I'm still acting, and I'm on a

567
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: show called nine on one and I go back and forth.

568
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: And then I did this really cool INDI called Site.

569
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: It it's like a psychological thriller, but it deals with

570
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: past lives, which is something I'm fascinated by. And then

571
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: I'm about to go shoot the movie next month. But

572
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: in between, I started producing during the pandemic and sold

573
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: a studio film to Fox.

574
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

575
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to talk now, but it's it's been

576
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: a long, big dream of a dream of mine for

577
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: a long time, and so it is very exciting that

578
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: we're making it. And I think people are going to

579
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: be excited.

580
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: Did you write it or or you just took and

581
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: got it?

582
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: We have a great We have a great writer Janae Savage,

583
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: and we are very close on the script. So it's.

584
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: Boy, it's so hard to get anything made these days,

585
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: especially in film film world.

586
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: It's been really exciting, and you know, we're still it's

587
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: moving quickly, but it's like, you know, every stage is

588
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: It's been a lot of learning already, you know, and

589
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: it's been really nice to just give artists, I don't know,

590
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: to be able to like speak to artists the way

591
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: that sometimes I wish I was spoken to on set,

592
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: you know. And also working with women. The women that

593
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: we're working with, the twentieth Century, the producers over there,

594
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: are the studio heads over there, it's three females. They

595
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: have been amazing to work with. For our very first meeting,

596
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: they were like, this is a collaboration, this is a

597
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: safe space. You know. I've just been blown away by

598
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: the support we've had from these incredible women at the

599
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: studio and it makes a huge difference. It makes a

600
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: huge difference. So it's been a great experience. I'm I

601
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: have a few other projects in development, a TV show,

602
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: a docu series, and another film, but so yeah, there's

603
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: a lot going on. It's been I mean, look, it's

604
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: been a hard few years for everybody. But I've just

605
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: been doing what I can to take care of myself

606
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: and you know, keep chugging along.

607
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's all you can do. I dreamed up

608
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: this podcast in the middle of pandemic because I, you know,

609
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I had to do something. You got to do something.

610
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: And the funny part about it is I thought I

611
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: had this amazing original idea of a rewatch. Right there

612
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: was already like twenty thousand of them.

613
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but how cool you have such a huge fan base.

614
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: This is such a success. I mean, thank god you

615
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 3: did it. It's been so great.

616
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't think of it soon.

617
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner.

618
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: I was too busy to think of it sooner. And

619
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: then when it all got shut down, I was like, woy,

620
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: I gotta do something.

621
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: Isn't it funny what happens in stillness? Like you know,

622
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: when you're going, going, going, you don't think of ideas,

623
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: But when you get quiet, suddenly the ideas just come.

624
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: No, I think of ideas going on. They're just not

625
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: good ideas, you know, Like, no, you don't want to

626
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: do it? All right, We're gonna play a little game

627
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: now called rapid Fire. You ready, I'm gonna fire questions

628
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: out you fire answers back to me to the best

629
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: of your ability. I think you got this. Are you ready?

630
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: How do you like your coffee?

631
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm with Oat Milk?

632
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: Your team, Logan team, Jesster team, Dean team, Lindsay, what's

633
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and laureli Are Richard.

634
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: Emiley, Rory and Lawrence?

635
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: Name and who and who?

636
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: What was Lauren's name on the show, Laura Lai?

637
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so right there you go, my daughter, right mother, daughter,

638
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: There you go. What would you order it? Luke Steiner?

639
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: Did you make like a good fried egg? Samwitch?

640
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh, you're damn straight?

641
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 3: Okay? I think that would be.

642
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: Jackson or Taylor for towns.

643
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: Selectmen, I stay out of politics.

644
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: Would you rather listen to Hep Alien or the Troubadour's

645
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: cover songs? Do you know what I'm talking about?

646
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: No?

647
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: You got this look deer in the headlights? Then? Now

648
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Speaker 1: that's a deer in the headlights. That's the look you gave.

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Speaker 1: I would pull over, stop, help you out. You know

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's not a deer. I'd honk at or

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Speaker 1: like get out of my way. I'd get out and say,

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Speaker 1: you know, listen, oh man, uh help. Alien was Lane's band.

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Speaker 1: She was in with Sebastian Bach and then Zach and Todd.

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Speaker 1: I think so they had their little band, remember that.

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Speaker 1: And the troubadour was Grantlee Phillips. And every once in

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Speaker 1: a while the camera would pan. Once in a while,

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Speaker 1: the camera would pan and the town square the opening

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Speaker 1: or something, and there there'd be playing one of his

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Speaker 1: cool songs. Okay, okay, the moody guy. You know, the

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Speaker 1: cool moody guy. Anyway, that was a classic. Look okay,

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Speaker 1: Harvard or Yale?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you gotta go Harvard if it's.

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Speaker 1: An okay, why.

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Speaker 3: Because it's so snatty, you gotta go.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go with the SNAUGHTI what's Rory's bigger mistake?

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Speaker 1: Crashing the car her boyfriend built for her or sleeping

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Speaker 1: with her ex who was married, which you're the same guy. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that one her. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's a bigger mistake. Just you know, all friends being equal.

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Speaker 1: Uh who from Gilmour would you not want with you?

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Speaker 1: Stuck on a Desert Island.

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Speaker 3: Probably oralized mom.

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Speaker 1: Because oh she would be complaining a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she'd be complaining, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think actually I think she would make I think

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Speaker 3: she would entertain me for like the first hour with

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Speaker 3: because her comments are always so funny, and then I

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Speaker 3: think I would go insane Jackie. Now, who what is

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Speaker 3: her character name?

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Speaker 1: Emily? Emily, Yes, Emily, uh something in your life? You

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Speaker 1: are all in on. I think I think we know horses, horses,

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Speaker 1: horses coming in from all directions.

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Speaker 3: Why wild horse Rescue? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, Well, I wish we had more time. Please

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Speaker 1: carve out some more time for us, because we will

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Speaker 1: call again. There's more to discuss. Actually I didn't get

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Speaker 1: the evening. Like there's there's fan questions that I didn't

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Speaker 1: even get to. Oh no, there's a whole list. Oh

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Speaker 1: you have no idea. The fans are obsessed with you.

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Speaker 1: They are obsessed. Yeah. Well yeah, so come back on sometime. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll be in touch.

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Speaker 3: We tell everybody. I said, Hi, that's so sweet.

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Speaker 1: I will tell everybody and thank you for your time,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, and good luck with say what it

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Speaker 1: is a sky.

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Speaker 3: Oh skydog sanctuary. Okay, and that's their name on Instagram

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Speaker 3: and my name on Instagram is at Ariel Kevl. I

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Speaker 3: also talk about out them there, so between the two

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Speaker 3: you can always find information. And they rescue wild horses

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Speaker 3: from round up and slaughter and terrible conditions.

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Speaker 1: I uh, after I'm done here today, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna check it out. I'm kind of a horse guy too.

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, we moved out of New

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Speaker 1: Jersey to this to the country, the Maryland countryside, and

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Speaker 1: down the street from us, or down the hill, was

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Speaker 1: lived a woman named Mary super who was a Grand

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Speaker 1: National champion, and we used to work. She gave us

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Speaker 1: jobs in her stable, oh my gosh, and she didn't

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Speaker 1: pay us anything. She allowed us on the property after

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Speaker 1: we were done our chores to go swimming in the

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Speaker 1: stream in the back of a property, and we did

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Speaker 1: every day. So it was kind of a wonderful existence

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Speaker 1: there for three years. And then we moved back to

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, which is still great, but it was just

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Speaker 1: a whole different country vibe, and it was it was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And we rode for and the neighbor across the street

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Speaker 1: at horses and my sister just fell in love with horses.

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Speaker 3: And look at all these memories you mad, I mean

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Speaker 3: you still remember just.

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Speaker 1: Just got bucked off, got back on, you know when

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Speaker 1: I you know, had that experience and get went right

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Speaker 1: into the mud. So anyway, but thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: good luck with everything, all your projects, and well hopefully

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Speaker 1: we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. This has been a nice memory.

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Speaker 1: L Yes, it has been all right, Dariel, thanks so much.

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