1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Now that you understand what the financialist kill chain is 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: and the seven steps to enslave people are well stand 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: by for what Ian Berling Game talks about and what 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: we're dealing with now. On the David Rutherford Show, this 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: just hit a whole nother court. I don't know if 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: you watch Tucker Carlson, but he just had a woman on, 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Catherine Fritz, who used to be in the government, in 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: the Bush Senior government, and she ran kind of the 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: hud and she's got this great news site called Solari 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: and they do these very intense analysis of the economic 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: mismanagement or redirection of economies. And she actually had this 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: really fascinating seq segment of it where she was saying, 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: you know when you know, and she went back to 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: that famous you know, September tenth, two thousand and one 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: where Rumsfeld comes out and says, Yeah, we're on a 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: counted for two point seven trillion dollars. And what she 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: was hinting at her saying is that underneath all these structures, right, 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: I guess those structures of the seven the steps that 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: you were talking about, they're funneling money out of the 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: commoners into these other areas and other places through these 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: different types of systems. So for me, like, as you're 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: saying this, I'm like, whoa, here's a person that was 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: in and she actually was attacked for nine years, had 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: to defend herself against the DJ They tried to destroy her. 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: She was an investment banker and all this, and they 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: tried to completely destroy her. And it's like because she 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: was exposing this these hidden secrets of where the money 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: is going and funneling to. And so that kind of 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: brings us up to the modern era post World War two, 30 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: after the British host was destroyed and it coming over 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: to New York and can you just talk, you know 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: a little bit about that and what you're seen up 33 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: until where we're at today and how that worked. 34 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I did a series of you know, the 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: the the taking over, you know, the jumping host from 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: the British to the Americans started right. 37 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Around World War One. World War One bankrupted the British Empire. 38 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: Straight up. And not only did it bankrupt the British Empire, 39 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: it killed all physically killed off their last princes. Forty 40 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: seven British noble and royal houses ended in World War One, 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: Wow ended and some of these families were over one 42 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: thousand years old, their connection with their people, the land. 43 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: They've been able to stand up to all this stuff 44 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: for centuries. They died in World War One? What happened 45 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: by their estates to the all Also, no, no, no, no, 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: crowd doesn't get that. 47 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 3: That doesn't work. 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: No, the bankers and the industrials came about all that stuff. 49 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: Pennies on the dollar, wow, financialized that uses collateral in 50 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: the US to build up further the US. So where 51 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: this starts is prohibition. Prohibition is what launched the mob state. 52 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: And I've done a. 53 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: Series of five or six tweet threads on the mob state. 54 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: I won't dig into that too much, but basically, massive 55 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: amounts of unearned liquidity poured into the system through illicit 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: You know, illicit means it's unearned liquidity, meaning it's cash, alcohol, alcohol, 57 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: all the gambling, et cetera. 58 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: Mayor Lanski and all those guys. That prohibition broke the 59 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: US economy in the banks because the banks no longer 60 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: needed to maintain the complex logic of local economies. They 61 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: just need to. 62 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: Figure out how to have enough of that going on 63 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: so that they could launder the money from the mob 64 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: That then they could you know, into their banks that 65 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: then they could lend out it your ten twenty thirty 66 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: times thirty times. Okay, World War two comes along, the 67 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: Dulles brothers, right, and some others create the mobs, convert 68 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: the United States into the Mob state. 69 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: Law. 70 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: And that was because of what was going on in Italy. Right, 71 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: They were using the mob extentsively to run covert operations. 72 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: That was intelligence. 73 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was later. That was later. 74 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So forty one, nineteen forty one Operation Underworld happens, 75 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: and that's losing. 76 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: Gosh. 77 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: I can't remember his name right now, but you know 78 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: the Luciano. 79 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: He was under Luciano, right, Yeah, well. 80 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: No, this was the top boss. 81 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: This was actually using so it was Meyer Lansky and 82 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: I think Buggsy had already been killed by this time, 83 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: but it was it was that group, right, And it 84 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: was ostensibly about maintaining the ports free of spies and 85 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: then to keep the sports from so there wasn't sabotage, 86 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: but in reality it was it was embedding the and 87 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: then it worked. They worked with the os s and 88 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 2: all of this because they had the routes. And but 89 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: if you look closely, the guy that was behind all 90 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: of it was Alan DoLS. And Alan DoLS was an 91 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: investment banker on Wall Street, Alan bank Uh. Alan DoLS 92 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: was Hitler's banker. He was the Nazis banker. He was 93 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: the one that launderon and and this is all publican 94 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: So I'm not, you know, pulling stuff out of my 95 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: fourth point of contact as we like to say. 96 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: As we like to say, I love that term. 97 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: So when the agency gets stood up and you know, 98 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: nineteen forty seven and you know, the new variant of 99 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: British intelligence and Galen uh Major Galen from from Germany, 100 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: from the German Army, right, the head of intelligence on 101 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: the Eastern Front, right, he gets you know, gets stood 102 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: up in the Galen organization and he's basically European intelligence. 103 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: And then later in early nineteen fifties they make him 104 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: head of German Intelligence. So the guy who was anyways, 105 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: the point is is that they embed this killchain infrastructure 106 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: in the form of the intelligence agencies and the investment 107 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: bankers and banking systems that founded them. Later on this 108 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: spins out, you know, later on, this is what backs 109 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: the cartels and all of these other things. Because with 110 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: right now roughly a trillion dollars a year and on 111 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: earn liquidity coming in from you know, criminal you know, 112 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: trafficking basically human and otherwise. Right, the there hasn't needed 113 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: to be any reality to the US economy for the bankers, 114 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: the big bankers. 115 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: For over a century. 116 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: Wow, because all of this, all of this pours into this, 117 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: you know, into the banks. They launder it. They charge 118 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: about four and a half percent. Then that money gets 119 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: into the banks, sits in the banks, not just here in. 120 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: The US, but overseas. 121 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: So a trillion dollars a year in the banks in 122 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: the you know, in the financialist system, lent out it 123 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: at least ten times. It's it's a ten trillion dollar. 124 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: Right a year, a year, a year. Yeah. So wow, 125 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: what need do you have of real economy. 126 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: When you can just fabricate it through at. 127 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: Least fabricate it that. But that's not enough. 128 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: You want more, that's right, Okay, you want more because 129 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: you want everything you can get. 130 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: Okay. 131 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: These are slavers that straight up their slavers. Okay, So 132 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: we don't do colonialism anymore, right, right, But if you 133 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: go to the former colonies, most of the banks are 134 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: colonial banks, you know, for historical reasons and you know, 135 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: credibility and you know confidence in the banking system. Okay, 136 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: when we do military assistance dollars and they go to 137 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: a country, when the funds actually get message, you know 138 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: through the swift system get message, they go. 139 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: In east bank that they go into, Yeah, i'mth. 140 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: No, they go into an old colonial bank, which is 141 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: might go through the I M at well, an old 142 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: British bank or older bank, or an old Italian bank 143 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: or right or an old Swiss bank. 144 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: And that's the stuff Mike Benz is doing such yeoman's 145 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: work exposing right now. 146 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: So all of this aid that we put out every year, 147 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: all the foreign assistants dollars, all of the you know, 148 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: this is quite aside from the USA I D. That's 149 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: just the you know, the influence operation, right right, Quite 150 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: aside from that, all of the dollars that go out 151 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: and you know, let's say roughly a trillion dollars a 152 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: year that goes out ends up going in through maybe 153 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: it goes through a couple of cutouts, et cetera, but 154 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: it ends up in a former colonial bank in Kenya 155 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: or or Burkina Fas or somewhere else. Well where does 156 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: that money actually end up then if it goes into 157 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: the old colonial bank France Italy. Right, so this old 158 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: financialist infrastructure, you know, and a lot of it goes 159 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: through the city of London, or it doesn't necessarily go 160 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: through the city of London going that way, but coming 161 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: back as collateral, as liquidity, then it's you know, out 162 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: of the city of London, it's out of Amsterdam, it's 163 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: out of you know, et cetera, et cetera. So this 164 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: great flee scene and inbebting of the American people, just 165 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: like with the British, have come to their end. There's 166 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: no more to take and so the only step next 167 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: Now you know, they've got one through five done. 168 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's next? Okay? And normally the way. 169 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: They do it is they get you tied up in 170 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: a massive war. Now first off, though, they'll tie you 171 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: up in a generational war first, so that the next 172 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: major war that you fight there's no chance you're gonna win. 173 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: Well, what the hell was the g WAT generational war? 174 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Generational war? 175 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: Right, we're exhausted, we're exhausted. 176 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: We lost a lot of our best and not just killed, 177 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 2: but you know, guys are broken or they're exhausted or 178 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: they don't want any part of it anymore. 179 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: That's right, right, And now what are they doing. They're 180 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: influencing their children to say, it's not worth it, don't 181 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: go fight, don't go. So they're cutting the legacy of 182 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: that strength that should be connected through the generations of 183 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: that patriot. 184 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: Correct, correct, Right, so that. 185 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: There is no loyalty anymore, not between the people and 186 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: the land, but the people in the state. 187 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: Right, there is none. 188 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: And that's part of the kill chain, right, you've got it, 189 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: that's everybody homogeneous. You've got to get rid of oligarchs 190 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: or princes and loyalties and all of that so that 191 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: when you collapse it and then you come in and 192 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: buy everything at pennies on the dollar so you can 193 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: collateralize your next kill chain in some other part of 194 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: the world that there's nobody there to there's nobody there 195 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: to fight you over it. 196 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I struggle with now, is 197 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: like you would think that America is the ultimate place 198 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: to be able to run this financial scheme, if you will, 199 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: this conspiracy for longer periods of time than they've been 200 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: able to do it in the past. Right now, granted 201 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: you can look at the chunks of time have been 202 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: relatively two three, four hundred years out of crack. But 203 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: now it's it seems like it's almost speeding up. So 204 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: where could they possibly go? Because you had mentioned they 205 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: thought about China. 206 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: Because Yeah, I was in China as an investment banker 207 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: back in the early two thousand. 208 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: They were already building the infrastructure. Wow, they were already building. 209 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Xi was elevated. And there's one of the I wrote 210 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: an article about both putin Enerji here a few days ago. 211 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: It's on I read that Really substack is that? 212 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: And I I've worked with Hu Jintao's son in investment 213 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: banking stuff that we were doing. Hu Jintao was helping 214 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 2: put the infrastructure in place, the Chinese premiere. It's why 215 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: he was removed. That's why g was elevated. She's ludicrously capable, 216 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:19,479 Speaker 2: ludicrously capable. He's fiercely Chinese, and he's incorruptible. 217 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what's interesting. Lex Friedman just had a 218 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: brilliant guy who is a China expert on a couple 219 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: of weeks ago or a week ago or whatever, and 220 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: just listening to him and what was fascinating to him 221 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: to him. Is is that that that g is being 222 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: openly is openly commenting about the value of Confucism, right, 223 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: which is the historical context of the underlying strength of 224 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: the Chinese hegemony, the development, right, as opposed to saying, 225 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, no, we're staunch communism where it's been. 226 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: They haven't been communists in thirty. 227 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: Years, right, they haven't been. 228 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: And the problem is they can't say that though, because 229 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: there are still many survivors of the Cultural Revolution, and 230 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: you can't. 231 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: You can't. 232 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 2: They have not acted and participated as communists in over 233 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: thirty years. They have not been communists over thirty years. 234 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: And most of the things that people hear about them 235 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: is just ludicrous garbage, right, right. And the fine Chinese 236 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: firewall is in place, but that's to prevent. 237 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: Color revolutions, right, that's right. 238 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: It's right to prevent the financialist kill chain from embedding 239 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: in China, right, right. 240 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: So who becomes the next host is it? Because it 241 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: can't be anything like India or South Africa? 242 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: Well they just tried to Yeah, well right now, I 243 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: think this whole Indo pack thing is an attempt to 244 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: move into India. 245 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: That's what I'm feeling too. 246 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: I suspect it is. 247 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like, I'm paying close attention to Modi, 248 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: what he's saying. I'm watching what he's following, where he's at, 249 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: who he's meeting with. You know, I think that's the 250 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: real real target, because it's not only you know, if 251 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: China is resistant, how do you take China down? Well, 252 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: you've got one point for three billion people, but it's 253 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: not gonna work. 254 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: It's not gonna work because you cannot fight over the 255 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: him Elias at all. 256 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: It's possibility, You. 257 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: Just can't do it. 258 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: You cannot fight a war over the humilias and Southern 259 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: China on the coast. Southern China is actually very mountainous 260 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: and very difficult. It's only Eastern China and northern China 261 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: that are unshielded, right right, So you're not going to 262 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: fight a war with the Chinese over If you want 263 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: an example of that, look to the Korean War. How 264 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: does such a small number of people hold off millions 265 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: of fricking Chinese and North Koreans. I mean, it was 266 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: brutal and ugly and horrendous fighting, but you know, tens 267 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: of thousands of guys ultimately a couple one hundred thousand guys, 268 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: We're able to hold off millions. 269 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: That's right, I think I think it was. It's the 270 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: thermopyline concept, right, you find the hot gates somewhere defend 271 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: that vigors. How about it? Like, is is it possible that? 272 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean obviously what what what we've seen in the 273 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: last you know, six to nine years in Brazil? Is 274 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: you know? And is Brazil potentially target? Do you go 275 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: down there next? 276 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Possibly? 277 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Holy smokes, is this conversation hot? 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They can already extract a good amount from 297 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: Brazil and they're not going to be able to hide 298 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: and protect themselves there. I wrote about this today and 299 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: published it today. But this thread over the last couple 300 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: of weeks, which actually started with a question Alex Craner 301 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: was talking to uh Tom la Wongo about about a 302 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: week or so ago, you know, and he was trying 303 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: to figure out who is this really and where and 304 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: then so that got me down this path and then 305 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: I'm kicking myself, you know, having been in the leverage 306 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: by all days or on the other on the other side, 307 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: like why didn't I see this before? But timing is everything? 308 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: Uh I think that what I believe very firmly now, 309 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: given that they're not going to get the World war 310 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: no matter what they do, even with this predictive programming 311 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: of this, you know, supposed Wagner commander saying they're gonna 312 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: kill Putin, you know, or or he didn't say that, 313 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: but you know, he goes on the show, and then 314 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: the next day we get all these threats against Putin 315 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: from the you know, the Ukrainian puppets. 316 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, that's I wish they'd get better screenwriters, obviously, 317 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: because it's all getting kind of boring and tedious. 318 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: It's it's like the final season of Game of Thrones. 319 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: It's just kind of all the writing's gone to try, 320 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: gone to trash, just gone to trash. Right, It's like, 321 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: I think what. 322 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: You have now is you've got you know, so many 323 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: different fractions vying for attention that that it's it's now. 324 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: It's like it gives the it's in my opinion, it's 325 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: exactly what what this this initiative, right, whatever you want 326 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: to call it, right, This initiative is like whether it's 327 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: the Blob, the deep sit, whatever you want to call it. 328 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: Right. 329 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: They want that, They want fifty million different people giving opinions. 330 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: They want everybody classified as a psio. They want every 331 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: one of us to be pointing at each other and 332 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: going you're a part of it, You're a part of it, right, 333 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: and that's that's the gist of this whole thing, is 334 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: that what was the famous quote by I forget who 335 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: it was, but the head of the CIA. But it's like, 336 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: we know we've succeeded when nobody leaves it. Yeah, case, 337 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: when everybody, when everybody believes nothing, we've won. 338 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: Correct, And I think operations a success. 339 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: That's all is is that it's failing, for sure, failing. 340 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: And the reason it's failing is the same reason that 341 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: it failed in the fourteen hundreds. What came out in 342 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: the fourteen hundreds was the printing press, and wow, it's 343 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 2: the same reason it failed in England. And actually what 344 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: led to the establishment and creation of the English peoples. 345 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 3: And we are a peoples, we are a civilization. There 346 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: are no ethnic English. England was a civilization launched by 347 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: one man after you know, Alfred the Great, and finally 348 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: brought about as a single whole under his grandson Athelstan. 349 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: But really it goes back even earlier, you know, conces 350 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: and ideas before that, what did Alfred the Great do? 351 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 3: Alfred the Great. 352 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: Realized there was all these arguments and all these fighting, 353 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: and all these people, et cetera, and some spoke you know, Danish, 354 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: and some spoke Celtic and Gaelic and picked and he 355 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: was like, we're going and Latin, and the Catholic Church 356 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 2: was in there or getting in there, et cetera. And 357 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: he's like, eh, he made everything, he translated and converted 358 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: everything to English, made everybody you know, right, Well, what 359 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: did it do? It opened all this information, all this 360 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: It made it much much harder for this, this operation, 361 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: you know, this deception operation to work. All right, Well, 362 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: printing press did that later? 363 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: What did that do? Well? 364 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: That led to over a century of NonStop war, That's right, right, 365 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: as the truth started to come out and as people 366 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: realize things, well, well now we got this thing called 367 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: the internet. 368 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: That hash they've been controlled. 369 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: No longer, but no longer. 370 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: Why because some princes, oligarchs, But some princes said no more, 371 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: no more. Now did they say it because they themselves 372 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: were under threat? 373 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: Oh? Hell yes? Did they do it for the good 374 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: of the people, Yeah, somewhat. 375 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: Some of this some self preservation and correct like in 376 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: order to self, in order to preserve yourself. You can 377 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: see chaos around other places, so people redirect what they're angry. 378 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: About or or in this case, the ones that gave 379 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: us the ability to communicate that adopt the censorship stuff. 380 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: They were like, no, we actually need the people. 381 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: To protect us. 382 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: We're going to have to give the people something that 383 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: they can use to protect themselves or they'll have no 384 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 2: reason to protect us. That's right, right, And this is 385 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: the this is the you know, the greatest you know, So, 386 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: what is the greatest lie? What is the greatest trick 387 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: the devil ever pulled? 388 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: Pretending that he didn't exist. 389 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: Getting us to believe that he didn't exist? What is 390 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: the greatest trick, the most destructive, dangerous trick the financialist 391 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: pulled getting us to believe that our princes were the problem, 392 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: that our princes were evil. Historically, it's never the people 393 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: who right who prevent the kill chain. It's not Putin. 394 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: It's the people who elevated Putin and have kept him 395 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: in office all this time. It's not g. 396 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: You know, if you tried to have you know, the 397 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: communist era was a unique period. Those both happened because 398 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the population been destroyed. War in China 399 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: came along because we've been feeding them with opium for 400 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: a century. We've been you know that finding we are 401 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: ready to collapse them. Right, We've been doing the same 402 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: thing with the Russians. The financials have been doing the 403 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: same things with Russians. They were ready to execute the 404 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: step seven of the kill chain, right, that's why communism 405 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: happened in Russia. And those were foreigners, they were not 406 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: Russians that did that to Russians. Now that at the 407 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: low level, yes, but not at the top. Stalin was 408 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: a Georgian. 409 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: Right so right, and what Trotsky was a New Yorker, right, 410 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Lenin was what he was exiled in Germany? 411 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, yeah, right, and Mao is not a 412 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: Han Chinese yep. 413 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: Right. 414 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: So two years back to the question, Okay, where are 415 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: they go next? I believe firmly they're trying to get 416 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: into India. I don't know that it's going to happen, 417 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: and I'm actually just randomly this week got asked to 418 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: get involved in some of those conversations. 419 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: So, Okay, what. 420 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: I suspect is that there there is no more host 421 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: for them to go to. They're not going to be 422 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: allowed anymore because it's it's become too obvious. I suspect 423 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: what they're what they're going to do, It's what I 424 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: would do if I was them. This is the resentfuls, right, 425 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: I called financialists because the resentfuls didn't connects with people 426 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: some people, but it's you know, in the modern world, 427 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: how do the resentfuls wage their eternal war? Its this 428 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: financialist kill chain, right, And as I write about in 429 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: the eternal war, there's all these other supporting stuff, but 430 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: ultimately all of that's in support of this financialist kill chain. 431 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: I suspect what they're going to do is because you 432 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: can already see it. We've seen going from about nineteen 433 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: trillion dollars in offshore wealth over one hundred maybe forty 434 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: trillion in the last twenty so odd years. I suspect 435 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: what they're going to do is escape off into their 436 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: Spider's web islands. You know, there's a great documentary called 437 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: The Spider's Web. 438 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 3: Wow. 439 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: The oscription of what what it is and what what's 440 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: the problem is right. They're freaking Marxist though they did 441 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: the videos, so their prescription of what to do about 442 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: it is ludicrous, is tyranny, It's yeah, it's it's just childish. 443 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes these Marxists are pretty smart, and 444 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: you know, not the wild, insane, crazy ones, but some 445 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: of the academics pretty smart. 446 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm identifying what the problem is. I ever listened to 447 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: them on a solution. 448 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Now that that that's categorically been proven to end up 449 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: with a few million people. 450 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: I'll listen to you on the helicopter write up as 451 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 2: you tell me what the problem is. When when we 452 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: get to the point where you're gonna tell me the solutions, 453 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw you out of the helicopter. 454 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: I love it Montana vibes, but I this is what 455 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: I suspects happening is they're not going to get their 456 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 3: world war no matter what, it's not going to happen 457 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: because that goes nuclear fast. 458 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're not also going to allow a slow, 459 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: steady grind to where it kills off. You know, we're 460 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: not going to allow them to do that kind of 461 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: a collapse. 462 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: So what I suspect. 463 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: They're going to slip into their their little island hideouts 464 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 2: and their bunkers and everything else offshore and their wealth, 465 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: offshore wealth, and they're going to use the cartels and 466 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: gi Hotti, you know they you know what was the 467 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: g WAT. 468 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 3: G WAT was another corporate hostile takeover. 469 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: We took over control, they took over control of all 470 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: the terrorist organizations, criminal organizations. That's what it was. And 471 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you're making that up. No, who were 472 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: we paying? Who do we just pay to take over Syria? 473 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: And who just paid to take over you know who's 474 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: fighting on with the Ukrainians right now. 475 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: Isis why are we paying the Taalban forty million dollars 476 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: a week? Oh? 477 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: And we armed them. 478 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: With eighty six billion dollars. 479 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: We armed them and we and we spent twenty years 480 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: training them all of our tactics, techniques and you know, 481 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: all of our teaching, all of our everything. 482 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: I just don't on purpose. 483 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: When I was I was in working for the agency, 484 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: I was in one area and right around there was 485 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: a British training facility and I would we would go 486 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: over and cite our weapons in and all that stuff 487 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: over there. And I remember talking to some of the 488 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: Brits and these are you know, these aren't sas guys. 489 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: Or anything like. 490 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: They're just they're just pogues out there, you know, getting 491 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: it done. And they were training they would have these 492 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: classes of Afghan you know a Ana guys ampie yeah, ye, 493 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: And and they were training them. And I went up 494 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: to these I'm like, dude, how many guys? And they're like, 495 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: we do four hundred guys every month. And I go, 496 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: that's a ton of dudes. He's like yeah, and I go, 497 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty short amount of time. He's like telling me 498 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: because I was back when now, like the Afghan on 499 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: on trainer was happening all the time. A bunch of 500 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of green braves got killed during that era. 501 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: And and I was like, well, you know, how what's 502 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: your bleed off? How many do you lose? And he 503 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: said about forty percent. So it's like one hundred and 504 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: eighty dudes out every month. Right, we're taking their training, 505 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: their equipment, their kit, and immediately graduating, going to their 506 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: provinces and then immediately going to work for whomever it is, right, 507 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: whatever it is, whoever, that's right. 508 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: You know what? You know what the g Wat was right? 509 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 2: G Watt was so calmverse, you know, was Tampa versus Langley. 510 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, the more I look at it, it was like 511 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: it was like anybody. 512 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: Describe it so perfectly. I never thought, well, I mean 513 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: I I I was right, you know, not even a 514 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: year later, I remember I go into the talk and 515 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: Bogram and I'm you know, I'm the intel guy, and 516 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, hey man, you know, where can we 517 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: go and what do we can we do? And they're like, well, 518 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, get out of here. We can't give you anything. 519 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: We're not in control of it, blah blah blah. I'm like, well, 520 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: who is, Well, it's not us. But and I remember 521 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: the Aussies came in the gates and those beautiful lorries 522 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: they had, and I went up to him and I 523 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: was just like, hey, guys, I'm you know, I'm running. 524 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. And they look like they've just 525 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: been in it, you know, and I'm like, what how 526 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: are you doing this? And they were saying, well, we 527 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: go in, we pester through the powers that be, and 528 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: they give us some just random section of the country 529 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: and they say, go over here, this is your area. 530 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. And instead of us 531 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: putting in you know, op orders, right, we would just 532 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: say we're doing reconnaissance and they'd go. They they'd set 533 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: up these you know, twenty day reconnaissance missions on these areas, 534 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: figure out where the bad guys were, and then they 535 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: would drive their lorries right into the middle of these 536 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: little villages. And just pick a fight. And so they were. 537 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: They were getting into it every time. So I go in, 538 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: I go to, you know, our guys, and I'm like, hey, 539 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: this is what they're doing. And and I went in. 540 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: I's like, hey, can we get an area? Now, no, 541 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: you're not getting anything. So finally we moved down to 542 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: Kandahar and and I went in same thing because now 543 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: we're it's you know, big you know what is it 544 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: asaf you know multi Ever, we're all in the same 545 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: little area right at the airport, and we go in 546 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: and we're like, all right, where's our area? We got 547 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: an area and it was down by spin Bulldock in 548 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: the desert of death, right on the Pakistani border, where 549 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: cowbands running back and forth, you know, the whole thing. 550 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: And we had discovered that the you know, the agency 551 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: had a couple safe houses running in spin Bulldock doing 552 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. So we're like, all right, we're 553 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna partner with them. We're to go down, We're gonna 554 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: set up urban reconnaissance, start track and do the whole thing. 555 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: And then we'll we'll in our little dpvs, we'll wrap 556 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: these DEDs up as they come across these points. In 557 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the desert to death and we'll you know, 558 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: we'll get something done. Shut down, you're not going anywhere, 559 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: you're not doing anything. And that's when I was like, dude, 560 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: we don't run this thing. DoD doesn't have any control 561 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: of this at all. And that was like my wake 562 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: up call, like, oh my god, wait a minute, there's 563 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: a lot, there's a whole nother thing going on that 564 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm so naive. And that was really the impetus of 565 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: me starting to pay closer retention, Well, if I'm doing this, 566 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I know it's not what it is, but what is it? 567 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: And slowly and slowly, over time, you know, I was 568 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: able to get to a place where I got a 569 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: pretty good idea of what was going on. But in 570 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: the last obviously the less you know, I think really 571 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: the Afghan pull out was where the veil finally fell, right, 572 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: and so now like it's been exposed, and then in 573 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: particular with what DOGE is doing, and because now we 574 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: have the money trails that are running all this stuff, 575 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: and the battle that's going back and forth between d 576 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: O D and their push against beat and all this 577 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: stuff that's and it's like you can see the foundation 578 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: is rattled. Yes, And that's what I think is so 579 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: beneficial now for the people, for the common, for the 580 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: for the people that really still believe in the greater 581 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: context of what the American dream is. The more they 582 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: understand that and the more they have this opportunity in 583 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: this space that is what modern media or modern whatever 584 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: it is, access to, you know, those diamonds in the 585 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: rough of the madness of the crazies of whatever. But 586 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: when you get down these these these these right to 587 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: go back to you know, the Venetian these canals, if 588 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: you were, the tributaries of of influence and truth. People 589 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: are starting to understand how the river flows. And that's 590 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: why I think what you're doing is so powerful and 591 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: so educational. I mean, it's really about education. It's about 592 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: teaching the American public what has been kept from them 593 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: for so long, what was kept from the British, what 594 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: was kept from the Dutch and so on. 595 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: How do we how do we so. 596 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 2: How do we keep them from executing Step seven. We 597 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: can't prevent them from from anitie and they already have, right, 598 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: it's it's already moving. But how do we prevent them 599 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: from succeeding in Step seven so we don't collapse. 600 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: Sorry for the interruption. I know you're loving this interview 601 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: as much as I do, but I just wanted you 602 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: to be aware and to put on your calendar. May 603 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: thirty first me on our Patreon account at David Rutherford Show. 604 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: I will be giving a live motivational event about performance, 605 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: about what I've learned over the past thirty years of 606 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what about the human condition enables 607 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: us to succeed or what drives failure in the most 608 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: extreme environments imaginable. That's May thirty first on our Patreon account. 609 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: Don't miss it. Who Yah. Back to the interview. 610 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: I'm not. 611 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm not terribly super smart, but when I get on something, 612 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: I'll stick on it for years, sometimes decades, even until 613 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: I kind of understand it. And because I'm not, I've 614 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: got a I've got a pretty good memory for concepts 615 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: and ideas. I got a horrible memory for names and 616 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: dates and title. 617 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 618 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: You're pretty awesome today, so what I appreciate it, but 619 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's like I can't keep up well, you know, 620 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: like James Lindsay, that's what he does. He does, He's 621 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: got these whole tables and listen. I'm like, that's too complex, 622 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: too complex. I'm not an eighteen Bravo. I was an 623 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: Echo and a Fox, right, but sometimes I really get 624 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: the Bravos. 625 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 3: Like, ah too much, too much? 626 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, gunpoint that way, boom right, Yeah they fall down? 627 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 3: Good, what's next to it? Yeah? Reengage reacquire. 628 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 2: So the point is for me is like I got 629 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 2: to simplify things down right and in the process, and 630 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: I gotta bless my Scottish mother for helping me see 631 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: this when I was young. We've got to get back 632 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: to first principles. If we're going to prevent the collass, 633 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: we got to get back to first principles. And we 634 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: need to stop letting them tell us who the enemy 635 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 2: is and what the enemy is and how the enemy works. 636 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: And when you get to that and you let go 637 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 2: of all of these things that were so emotionally attached to, which, again, 638 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: being half Scottish and half English, I'm emotionally attached to 639 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: much of anything. 640 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: Uh. She probably is an advantage, it. 641 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: Is for this stuff, I'll tell you, right. 642 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 2: Isn't it both the Scandinavian descent before that. So yeah, 643 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 2: but you know, we've got to simplify. We've got to simplify, 644 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 2: We've got to reduce. We need to not chase there. 645 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 2: You know, if there's anything that is put in the 646 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 2: public domain, now that's that triggers an emotional response to you. 647 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 3: It's a it's a fake out. We're at that point. 648 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,479 Speaker 2: And if there's something that's out there from a trusted source, 649 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: et cetera, and it's pretty blase and mellow and calm, 650 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: should probably look at that. It's like the it's you know, 651 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: in Green Berets, we have the old warrant you know, 652 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: the warn officer ing. It's like that out of shape, broken, 653 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: long haired warrnt officer who's just you know, you never 654 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 2: know if he's drunk or not. 655 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: Sitting in the back of the team, sitting. 656 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 3: In the back. He rarely even shows up. 657 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: She's never there for pt the morning, right, never cleans 658 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 2: his weapons. 659 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 3: Right. But every once while he'll show up say something. 660 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 3: You're like, what does he just say? 661 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: Yeah? 662 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: And then you're like, of, you know, and it's like 663 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 2: those are the kind of people you need to watch 664 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 2: for now. 665 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 3: It's like, what does he just say? What is that? 666 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 2: But any of the sensational emotional stuff, it's it's either 667 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: somebody who themselves are in emotional space, which is a lot. 668 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 2: And we all got our you know, most of us, 669 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: i'd pretty much don't anymore. We all got our triggers. 670 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 2: You know, are are things that we're you know, some operation, 671 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: especially the soft guys and the Intel guys, some operation, 672 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 2: some area of expertise that we got somewhere in the world, 673 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 2: and we're charged up by that, you know. Unfortunately, knowing 674 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 2: a lot of soft guys in the Intel guys, most 675 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 2: of them don't know what the hell they're talking about 676 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: because they don't realize that the whole framing, like you 677 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 2: were talking about when you were down in Southeast Afghanistan, 678 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: entire frame being was a lie, right, you know, the 679 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 2: they you know again it's it's Langley script writers in Tampas, 680 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: scriptwriters writing the episodes, and we're all playing within these episodes. 681 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: But it's scripting and not always intentionally just but you know, 682 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: so we got to get back to first principles. 683 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 3: We got to get back local and small. 684 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: We've got to stop paying attention to things that are 685 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 2: you know, if they can't shoot me, blow me up, 686 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: and they can't get to me within three or four 687 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: days to shoot and blow me up. 688 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 3: I don't care. 689 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,479 Speaker 1: That that's going to be the next T shirt for sure. 690 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: Right, it's like, honestly beyond that, What the hell am 691 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: I worrying about? 692 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 3: That's right, So we need to stop, you know, you know, 693 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 3: all of this other kind of. 694 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: It's just no sensation. 695 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: The other that we have to pay attention to is 696 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 2: that we we really are still English. We are the 697 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: English civilization. We are a civilization. We can all hate 698 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: each other in angry and battle with each other, but 699 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 2: we are a civilization like some of the greatest civilizations 700 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: that have ever been. And yes, we're Americans, but Americans 701 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: are English. We are the English peoples. And that includes 702 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 2: the Irish and the Scots, and the Welsh and the Brittannese. 703 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 2: And it does include some of the old core members 704 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: of the British Empire from India and Pakistan. It's why 705 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 2: that does matter because they're also riddled throughout our own, 706 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, the old parts of the empire. But we 707 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: are English civilization. We have certain sets of principles and 708 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 2: we need to get back to those as the people. 709 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: Forget all this other stuff, forget all of the you know, 710 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: the religious stuff and all that. If you're religious, that's fine, 711 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: but down underneath, we're a civilizational people and we need 712 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: to fucking stand up for ourselves. 713 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 3: Forget my language, right, Okay. 714 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: At the core of being English people is we are 715 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: a monarchical people. We are, and again we have the 716 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 2: illusion that we don't have princes, but we vote for them, 717 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 2: we elevate them as entertainers and you know, et cetera, 718 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 2: that's all that same wiring. Because we're mammals, we're monkeys, 719 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: and monkeys are wired for this. You cannot remove it. Okay, 720 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: make sure it's the right prince, and then come to 721 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: their defense because they're in all out war on our 722 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: behalf right now. They're doing everything they can to prevent 723 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: this step seven of this fricking kil chain. And yeah, 724 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 2: of course they're doing it for themselves. They're the ones 725 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 2: with all the assets. But there are some of them 726 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: like Trump, like Elaonn like some of these others who 727 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 2: really and some that are names that people don't know 728 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 2: that aren't billionaires. There are hundreds of millions or tens 729 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 2: of millions, right there are these and at every level 730 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 2: you locally, et cetera, they are locked in all out 731 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 2: winner take all life or death literally. They shot Trump, 732 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: tried to shoot him again. They're locked in all out 733 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: life and death battle on our behalf, and we need 734 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: to remember who we are, remember our you know, coordinature, 735 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 2: and we need to come to their defense and stop 736 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: chasing all the fricking rabbits right and doves, and all 737 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 2: the distractions that are put out by the financialists and 738 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: their intelligence communities, which is they own straight up. 739 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: Wow, well on that, because this has turned into a 740 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: much more lengthy interview, which I'd hoped it would, but 741 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: you never know. Em I just I can't thank you 742 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: enough for your willingness to come on and share with 743 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: everybody your thoughts, which I hope everybody recognizes are are 744 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: not frivolous. They're not piecemealed together from you know, a 745 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: post over here and a post over there. But it's 746 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: it's years of life experience and and a deep passion 747 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: for actual history and and then more importantly where you 748 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 1: come from and who you are. And as a fellow 749 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 1: Englishman and Scotsman, uh you know Hathaway and Rutherford, I 750 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: I just, uh, I think that's probably why I I 751 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: gravitated towards your words and your thoughts. So thank you, sir. 752 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it. You're doing good work day. Appreciate