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Speaker 1: Really readily, donks look at this now. Tip to Tim.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, October nineteenth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: and it is time ladies and gentlemen, diggity donks for

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Hi everyone, I am one half of your

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Speaker 2: hosting duo on this hangover Monday, big weekend to combat

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Speaker 2: sports to get to but we have to get to

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Speaker 2: the other side of the screen. Is my friend in

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Speaker 2: yours the conspiracy to my theory, It's Brian Campbell. Brian

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Speaker 2: was unavailable by text yesterday because he was doing a

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Speaker 2: puzzle is Did I get that right? Be seen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You know that's how I choose to spend my time, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand pieces, Little Genesis and the headphones. Just you know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta read truck, Luke. When you give and you give,

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Speaker 1: and you give like we did last week to the nation,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you know, recharge. Okay, I don't care. You

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Speaker 1: can call me old, you can call me whatever you want. Luke.

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Speaker 1: This show ain't live. I could have a wardrobe malfunction.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm ready to go off at any point,

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Speaker 1: let's do this thing.

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Speaker 2: Usually my Monday nights are when I recharged because I

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Speaker 2: you're right, should we note off the top? We should?

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Speaker 2: The show is not live today. We put out a

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Speaker 2: we started. But we're gonna get you know, dissected up.

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Speaker 2: here behind the scenes from Monday show. So sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: But it's still gonna be the same quality. BC still

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Speaker 2: you and me, it's still have you seen this shit,

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Speaker 2: It's still damn from donks. It's still a lot of

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Speaker 1: It's still Jay. I don't know if we can get

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Speaker 1: Jay on the air, but it's not his fault. He's

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Speaker 1: still on the show. Where well, there he is. There's

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Speaker 1: the aircraft carrier. Guys, here we go.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you have blasted Jay so much that

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Speaker 2: I had a issue with my live channel Thursday, which

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Speaker 2: by the way, is unrelat into this, and the issue

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Speaker 2: Jay had nothing to do with it, right, It was

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Speaker 2: not the equipment's fault. Poor carpenter blames this tools. It

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Speaker 2: was my fault. Everyone in the comments blamed Jay. Yes,

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Speaker 1: The irony is I was the only one that offered

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Speaker 2: And then Jay sends an email actually figuring out what

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, hey, Jay, welcome to our show. There's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was amazing. My initial reaction on Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: Everything just seemed very calculated. But BC, you know this,

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Speaker 2: there are some things I need to fix. Let's go

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Speaker 2: in there and fix them. In fact, I watched Holloway

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Speaker 2: lot of things, mature, smart, credible. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 2: BC god, I am seeing online a lot of people

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Speaker 2: saying okay, or take it look great? Like no one's

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Speaker 2: He did put out social media posts saying after he

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Speaker 2: Let's say sometime in twenty twenty one. Okay, BC, how

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Speaker 1: That's going to be a great fight. I mean like

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have to see that. This is

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Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. Volkanoski's got his hands fell, Luke,

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Speaker 2: And even if you go to the ground, are you

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Speaker 2: He confused him, He did not let him get into

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Speaker 2: him down at your own peril, I dare you number one?

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Speaker 2: I will say this, I think Volkanovski deserves to be favored.

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Speaker 2: But Brian Ortega with his creative decision making like we

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Speaker 1: You're damn right, would you say that?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Volkanovsky is a genius, right, And I'll give him a

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Speaker 1: Volkanovsky's great when when you underestimate him, when when you

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Speaker 1: and then he can pull one out on you. But

429
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: like Max in that rematch, when you when you take

430
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: him as serious as you should, and you have length

431
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: and you can match his speed and IQ and power, Like,

432
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 1: there's not disrespect against Volkanovski, but I feel like that

433
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: height is going to catch up to him in the

434
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 1: end against these longer fighters who figure out what he's

435
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: doing well.

436
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 2: To an extent, wasn't that the story around Brian or Teger? Right? Like,

437
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,360
Speaker 2: even if you favored him against pick somebody boy kind

438
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: of worked. We did these two fights I'm talking about,

439
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 2: he was losing those and then kind of came back.

440
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 2: You had this sort of like not me against the

441
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 2: world attitude, but somebody who was winning, not really despite

442
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: some flaws, but was winning again in situations that maybe

443
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: somebody just a little bit lesser than him would not have.

444
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: It was that extra something that he had that pushed

445
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: him over the finish line, and that ran into a

446
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: brick wall against someone like Max Holloway right where that

447
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: was just too much of a bridge, too far. So

448
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 2: when thinking about it on the others, I know you

449
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: asked about Volkanovsky, but in thinking about it on the

450
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 2: Ortega side, I will say this, just because he has

451
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: a chip on his shoulder now and he may not

452
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 2: necessarily be favored, that's not a guarantee to get him

453
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 2: a win.

454
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: It never is.

455
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: But I like him being in that position for his

456
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 2: chances versus some kind of expectation that he's gonna waltz

457
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: in there and handle somebody. I like it when Brian

458
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: Ortega has something to prove, and now with the work

459
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: being done and the skills being developed, that he can

460
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 2: really prove things in a way that I don't think

461
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: he could before. On the Volkanovsky side, you know, I

462
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: tend to not buy into these narratives for him because

463
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 2: he doesn't do a lot of media. He doesn't doesn't

464
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: he doesn't pay attention to the odds. He's he's not

465
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: trying to sell you somebody. He's not not that Ortega

466
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: is either, but he's not a media darling in the

467
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 2: way that Ortega can be. He just kind of of

468
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,719
Speaker 2: there to do the work. The thing that Ortega has

469
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: to get around for me is gonna be much more strategic.

470
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: When you have a guy who can move like that,

471
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: who can set angles like that, who is fainting like that,

472
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: who is just so hard to read, how do you

473
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,959
Speaker 2: take that away from him? You're not gonna take him down,

474
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: at least not very often. He's very hard to take down.

475
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: So are you going to do your own fates to

476
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 2: stop him? Are you going to make reads and then

477
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: intercept him? A combination of both. That's really the key task.

478
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: What you have to ask yourself is is somebody like

479
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: Brian Ortega up to that task? Well, you know, in

480
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: fairness to Ortega, he also has his hands full in

481
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: terms of Volkanovsky, because that's that's a very difficult thing

482
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 2: to defeat. But I just feel like if this was

483
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: the if he had gotten lucky against Max or something

484
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: where he was getting his ass whooped in that fourth

485
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: and goes out for a fifth and gets a Hail

486
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: Mary guillotine, I wouldn't like his chances at all against Volkanovsky.

487
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: But he redeveloped, and so for those reasons, I think

488
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: either guy has a very good chance to beat the

489
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 2: other one.

490
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: Luke final thought on this. Some people were speculating after

491
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: or Take a great performance, saying, oh my god, I

492
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: think we know now what he's done those last two years.

493
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: I did see some memes floating around collecting all the

494
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: females who had been publicly attached to or Takea during

495
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: that same two years. I would go as far as saying,

496
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: this little jeter, ask you got any comments on that.

497
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: I'll say this though, you know what was kind of funny.

498
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: I didn't see that, but I was thinking about his

499
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: shaved head because it doesn't do him any justice. You know,

500
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: I had a shaved head for most of my twenties,

501
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: and I'll never forget this, BC.

502
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: This is the same tail? Is this how?

503
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 2: This is? No? No, no, no, no, no oh are

504
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: you kidding? Not even one percent of one percent? But

505
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: here's it's a small little story. This is true. You

506
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: know when I had a shaved head for all the

507
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: time I was in the military and blah blah blah,

508
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: and then I got out and I grew my hair out.

509
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: I will never forget this. BC. I was walking down

510
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: the street one time and someone stopped me and asked

511
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: me what the time was and in all my time

512
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: where I had a shaved head and blah blah blah,

513
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: no one ever did that. I was almost taken aback

514
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 2: by it, Like you just seem more approachable.

515
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: I'll say this, did you take and you had a

516
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: yet a long line of wristwatches in there?

517
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: Or what? I'll say this, BC, Brian Ortego with a

518
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: shaved head doesn't do himself the justice that he does

519
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: when he's got those Aquaman Jason Momoa locks. On the

520
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: other hand, the shaved head version, you know, a little

521
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 2: bit like FU to the world kind of a thing.

522
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 2: I told you so kind of a thing, A little

523
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: bit angry chip on your shoulder kind of thing. I

524
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: might like that one better as a fighter, BC, just

525
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: my personal opinion.

526
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to talk about his own poon tang.

527
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: You're talking about him, that's fine, But I'm sure you

528
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: watched Bulworth afterwards. Shout out to Brian Ortega. Let's move on, lucok.

529
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: All right, very good, So let's get to the other

530
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: big main event over the weekend. I'm not in a

531
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: position BC to say I told you so, because in

532
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: the end I was too chicken shit to make the call.

533
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: But Teyo Fimo Lopez defeats defeats Vasilli Loma Chenko. Can

534
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: you believe it? Now? The scores were some shit. I

535
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: think it was one sixteen to one twelve, which is okay,

536
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: it's fine, one seventeen to one eleven, which is starting

537
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: to get a little bit out there. And then it

538
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: was one nineteen to one oh nine, which is an

539
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: absolutely dreadful card, totally indefensible. But I think what I

540
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: would would you would say BC is and I would

541
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: like to talk about the scores to start it for

542
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: just a second. The right guy won, and I want

543
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: to make one quick point if I maybe see because

544
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: I know you did an instant reaction VID. It was

545
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: so good. I couldn't help but watch it myself. Here's

546
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: what stood out to me. And I don't like making

547
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: MMA comparisons when I'm talking to a direct boxing audience,

548
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: but I know a lot of folks reached out to UBC,

549
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: they reached out to me, they said something on social media.

550
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: We kind of arm twisted the audience into watching a

551
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: boxing match that maybe they weren't going to. I think

552
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: a lot of them enjoyed it. By the end. I

553
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: want to make a point here. I had it six

554
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: to five personally in favor of Lopez heading into the twelfth,

555
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: meaning it was either going to be a tie if

556
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: Lomachenko one or maybe he got a knockdown. He was

557
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: doing really well rounds eight through eleven, depending on how

558
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: you scored it, but that was a very it was.

559
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: It was either going to be a draw, potentially winnable

560
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: fight seeming based on the momentum for Lomachenko, and then

561
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: in the twelfth round Tao Fimo Lopez bit down and

562
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: decided I am not going to let this one slip away,

563
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: charging back. Won the twelfth with his highest output, maybe

564
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: that was his best one. Even got hit in the

565
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: head with a head butt that cut him open late

566
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: in the round, still didn't get distracted. It was as

567
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: if Dominic Reyes was fighting John Jones and instead of

568
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: just you know, barely hanging on the fifth, putting it

569
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: on John in the fifth better than he had in

570
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: the first three rounds, no doubt about it. Seven to

571
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: five on my scorecard, shocking the world, but really b

572
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: C as impressive as it was. We warned everybody you

573
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: should not be tu two shocked Tayo Femo Lopez the

574
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: real deal.

575
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: Holy shit, there's a difference.

576
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: Though.

577
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: There's a difference here. We warned that despite the lack

578
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: of experience, and despite how great Lomachenko really is, and oh,

579
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: by the way, dude, we're overwhelmed because this is it's

580
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: a shit show. At times. We're overwhelmed by the people

581
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: now saying Lomachenko was never that great blah blah blah.

582
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: Can you guys, you know, can you guys sit on

583
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: a cactus about that? The reason why this fight went

584
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: this way is because Lopez is great. I mean, he's great.

585
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: But to your point here, Luke, I wanted to predict

586
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: Lopez by knockout. You almost bit on a Lopez prediction.

587
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: We knew that there's a chance he's that good. I

588
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: thought his intangibles, meaning what's inside, his belief in himself,

589
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I really was touched by that and

590
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: really wanted to pick him. I couldn't in the end.

591
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: But with all that said, I really think any of

592
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: us who believed in his ability to compete in this fight,

593
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: really believed because of his power, really believed that there

594
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: was a chance he could knock out the smaller man,

595
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody, even people in the Lopez family,

596
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: would have guessed that Teyo Femo at twenty three, with

597
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: again that little of pro experience in general, but that

598
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: little of pro experience against anybody within miles of ability

599
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: of Wumachenko could out box the best boxer today. This

600
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: is the headline story if you're a hardcore boxing fan.

601
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: He went in there and disarmed the magician and forced

602
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: this guy to really back himself into a horrible game plan.

603
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: And I do think we need to throw shade at

604
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: team Lomachenko. Yeah, they waited too long, but Luke to

605
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: the point of what Tayo Femo did. I think Lomachenko

606
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, he looks good early, but I'm gonna

607
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: wait for him. He's gonna screw up or he's gonna tire.

608
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: None of that happened. None of that happened at all. Look,

609
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: I think the bottom line is Lomachenko had no idea

610
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: Lopez was gonna be that quick or that sharp, and

611
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: it was shocking to him. And that's when this fight

612
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: became more about Lomachenko not being a finisher and a

613
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: big puncher because he's fighting over his head at this

614
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: weight class, and how is he gonna figure a way

615
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: back into the fight. But credit to him, Luke, he

616
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: almost did. Now. Look I scored at eight to four

617
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: one sixteen, one twelve. I know in the instant Analysis

618
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: video my score, I'd said I would score a one seventeen.

619
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: I was delirious and it was late at night. At

620
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: eight rounds to four, I thought Lomachenko rallied And you know,

621
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: if you had it seven five, I'm okay with it.

622
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't like andre Wood's draw scorecard just

623
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: as much as I didn't like the one nineteen one

624
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: oh nine from Julie Letterman. But again, when you have

625
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: these rounds where there isn't a lot that happens in them,

626
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: it's only three minutes, you really could go either way

627
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: in a lot of these. So I don't get too

628
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: crazy in the end. Like you said, the right guy won,

629
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: which is great. We didn't get a typical boxing moment

630
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: of Glovekin or Alvarez one where you're like, oh my god,

631
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: I just watched Canela lose and then he gets the

632
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: bailout draw to force the rematch. We didn't get any

633
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: of that. We got a star being born, Luke, and

634
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: he did it in a way that we can sit

635
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: here today and completely praise him, because this is something

636
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: that I'm sorry, Lopez Senior said after the fight, and

637
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: I echoed it in the instant analysis, Luke. If they

638
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: had knocked out Lomachenko and blown him away in the

639
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: first two rounds, they would have got the praise, but

640
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: that praise would have been muted to a certain degree.

641
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: We would have been.

642
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: Talking about the size difference, and we still wouldn't know

643
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: how great Lopez is, right, We still wouldn't know what

644
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: that fight would have looked like if it went deep. Instead,

645
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: we got the full package of how great this kid is,

646
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: from poise to technique defense, How good was his defense,

647
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: his game planning, all that stuff. Look, this is what

648
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: you want in boxing. Every once in a while, somebody

649
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: who looks like the next big thing actually go out

650
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: there and show you that they are. It's a great

651
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: night for the sport. And I was very happy for

652
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: all those MMA diehards that that we looped him in, Luke.

653
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: A good amount of them were like, you know what,

654
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: this was great. This was skill at the highest level.

655
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: It was dramatic. I'm gonna come back again. Yep. Some

656
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: people said it's too boring for them, and it's fine.

657
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: The same equivalent if you try to show a boxing

658
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: fan a big time in the may fight and they go,

659
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't need that grappling. I don't need grown men

660
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: and panties rolling around. I get it, I get it, okay,

661
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: But this was a great night for the sport, Luke,

662
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: and the right guy won. Holy crap, this kid's legit.

663
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, you know, as great as I thought

664
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: he was, he was even better. And that's great to see.

665
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: You know what's amazing. We made this point on Friday,

666
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: but we couldn't really, I couldn't lean into it because

667
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: he hadn't done the work yet. Now that he's done

668
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: the work, I'd like to revisit this point because I

669
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: do think it's worth making. And if you're a real

670
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: fight fan, you have made this mistake before. I'm a

671
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: fight fan. I consider myself a fight fan. Hello, I

672
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: have made this mistake before. Sometimes somebody comes around with

673
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: a big mouth and you love them. Sometimes somebody comes

674
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: around with a big mouth and you can't stand them

675
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: to the point where you are unable to see them

676
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: for who they really are, or their fans will be

677
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: really awful and you can't stand their fans, same problem

678
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: ends up emerging, you can't see them for who they

679
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: really are. I'm not going to compare Lopez to McGregor.

680
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it is a one to one. We

681
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: talked about this before. It seems like, you know, it's

682
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bridge too far to say

683
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: that that Taylofe Ma Lopez is boxing's Connor McGregor. I

684
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: I don't think that's quite right. But but him and

685
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: his father have been saying for a long time that

686
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: they had Lomachenko's number, and when Lomachenko was just blazing through,

687
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: everybody seemed really hard to accept that he hadn't done

688
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: anything nearly as impressive. Yeah, he had big power, but

689
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: he had just as big of a mouth. You know,

690
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: he would do the Fortnite Dance and put on the

691
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: LSU jersey on Heisman night and do that you know,

692
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: patented backflip that he does and everything else, and it

693
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: just rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, including Lomachenko, who,

694
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, thought that Komi was gonna beat him,

695
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: and beat him pretty handily. Lots of others as well.

696
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: There is something that happens in fight sports that will

697
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: not let great fighters be seen as great at first

698
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: when they have a big mouth, but then they go

699
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: through something where you just can't take it away from

700
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: them anymore. Adasignia rolls through Whittaker and then in this

701
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: particular case, yeah they had the bad fight against Romero,

702
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: but then roll through obviously Costa. You have a case

703
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: from McGregor just bludgeons Josiado thirteen seconds. But then he

704
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: goes up and does what he does to Eddie. Alvarez

705
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: becomes the first time UFC fighters ever held two belts

706
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: at the same time. And then Lopez goes up and

707
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: unifies one hundred and thirty five pounds, which for folks

708
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: in MMA who may not realize, it's one of boxing's

709
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: deepest visions, okay, super super deep, their version of lightweight

710
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five pounds. And he goes out

711
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: there and out boxes a dude who comes out to

712
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: the matrix talk who had you know, Olympic gold medals,

713
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: three hundred plus amateur fights, who every MMA fighter've ever

714
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: talked to says Lomachenko is their favorite fighter. The whole

715
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: nine yards and he beat him, and he beat him.

716
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say without any controversy, but pretty much

717
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: no controversy.

718
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: Now.

719
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: I think people are finally going to realize that you

720
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: can't let the brash talk distract you from what the

721
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: tape shows. That dude Taeo fem Lopez is uber, uber talented.

722
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: Don't you ever lose sight of that fact.

723
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: I want to counter you to a slight degree, and

724
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: I do think the spirit of what you're saying is correct,

725
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: and there are instances where it's easy to always, you know,

726
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: downvote the loud, brash guy and say, come on, you know,

727
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: prove it to me. First, I was on ESPN Radio

728
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: on the National Show on Saturday preview in this fight

729
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: with Bart Scott, the x NFL player, and Bart's a

730
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: big Lomachenko and we kind of got into an argument

731
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: on the air in which I'm like, no, you gotta

732
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: understand the kid is for real. He's gonna have a

733
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: chance to be in this fight. He's gonna have a

734
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: chance to score the knockout, and Bar just kept arguing me, going, look,

735
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: you know I've been ringside. I've been to all these

736
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: Lomachenko fights. You're telling me this kid with no experience

737
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: is gonna come in there and box with him. Like,

738
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: hell no, you're telling me he's gonna be able to

739
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: time him and figure him out. Hell no. And I

740
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's ignorance. I think it's just this that,

741
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: like Lopez, had fifteen pro fights, Luke, and on top

742
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: of that, all of the fights that really mattered the

743
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: Richard call Me fight, the step up against Diego Magdaleno,

744
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: for example, both of those were early knockouts. We never

745
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: actually got to see if he really could box, if

746
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: he could figure things out. We only have that unanimous

747
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: decision he scored over Nakatani, in which he looked flat

748
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: the whole night. We talked about a lot of family

749
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: drama beforehand. He did sort of figure out with his

750
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: jab how to box and take the lead and win

751
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: that fight, but he looked bad. We don't have footage

752
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: of him out boxing people. We only had footage of

753
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: him spectacularly blowing people. There's no way, even for the

754
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: hardcore fan, even for the fan who put on the goggles,

755
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: took the eye test and said this kid could be great,

756
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: to have the confidence level that he could have done

757
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: exactly what he did on Saturday. I think you and

758
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: I had enough confidence that he's in the game that

759
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't a mistake to match him in this fight.

760
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: But even beyond a puncher's chance, I mean, Luke, in

761
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: the back of your mind, could you have seen this coming.

762
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't have seen him completely disarming Lomachenko

763
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: unless he knocked him down early and landed something. He

764
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: did it with the skills. Man that that was wild.

765
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: If you had asked, if you had told me, okay

766
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: that you could predict the future, and you would tell

767
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: me that Lopez is gonna win, and then you ask me,

768
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: how do you think he's going to win? The way

769
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: in which he did would not have been the first,

770
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: maybe even the second way I would have picked. But

771
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: in the end, am I super surprised by it all?

772
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm amazed by it. I'm not gonna tell you, I'm

773
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: super surprised to b see. I understand the point that

774
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: you're making where you begin to think about, like if

775
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: if the Lopez doubt had started at the Lomachenko fight,

776
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: where they said I'm gonna make a rational case for

777
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: Lomachenko for the reasons that you mentioned both in terms

778
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: of Lopez and Lomachenko. I don't know that I would

779
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: have minded it. The problem that I'm identifying is pervasive

780
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: skepticism and understanding, at least the seeming understanding about what

781
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: he's capable of. But then when it came time to

782
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: really sort of say what you thought he was going

783
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: to do, to consistently get that wrong. I'm not saying

784
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: about you. I'm just saying throughout the boxing world. I

785
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: went back and I told you I looked through it.

786
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: It's not just the Comy fight. I saw it over

787
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: and over and over again. There is something about somebody

788
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: arrogantly declaring to the world what they're going to do

789
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: that makes the rest of the world, at least parts

790
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: of the rest of the world, say no chance, never

791
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: gonna happen, and they hang on to it despite all

792
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: the evidence to the contrary. BCE, I told you I

793
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: would watch this guy. I said this on Friday in

794
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: these exact words. He jumped off the screen at me.

795
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: He did not move like other boxers. Again, was he

796
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: gonna out box or shut Lomachenko down for basically the

797
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: first set even rounds? Okay, maybe I didn't see that coming.

798
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: But beating him by basically being the better guy of

799
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: the two, I don't think that that should be necessarily

800
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: massively surprising, as amazing as it was.

801
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: To your point, though, Uh, Muhammad Ali was the betting

802
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: underdog going into the Sunny Listen rematch, so I.

803
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: See seven seven or eight, So seven or eight to

804
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: one in that way.

805
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, going into the rematch in which he stopped him

806
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: in the first fight, I know was weird, you know,

807
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: quit on a duel with a bad shoulder, but uh, yeah,

808
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: wild we're believers now, Luke. And now I think you

809
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: have to spin off and talk about what's next. And look,

810
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: I got to make a statement about boxing. And I

811
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: don't mean just you know, piss on the fire and

812
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 1: ruin you know whatever here, but uh, because good things

813
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: are happening in boxing right now. I mean the Wilder

814
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: Fury fights for example, in which rival promoters, rival networks

815
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: are coming together to make a bit. I mean, that's

816
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: great news. We are seeing people work together more often

817
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: than not. But coming off of this win in which

818
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: Lopez is now un disputed champion, and I know, I'm

819
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: hit me up left for red BC, He's not the

820
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: real on disputed champion because of the WBC franchise. Dude,

821
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: I know that better than anybody. Okay, but it's bullshit.

822
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: So sometime, at some point you got to kind of

823
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: decide what you're gonna recognize and what you care about.

824
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: He's kind of the un disputed champion, but he isn't.

825
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: But a lot of people are going, Okay, no, I

826
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: gotta see him against Devin Haney. Oh, no, I gotta

827
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: see him against Ryan Garcia. You're not gonna see that.

828
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna see it right now. I'm sorry. That's how

829
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: boxing works. It is what it is, Luke. Okay, if it's.

830
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: Quick enough, you're stepping on, you're stepping on the fourth topics.

831
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: So let's just get her into it. I'll pitch it

832
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: right back to you. Topic number four here, this is

833
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: the central question. You had Ryan Garcia coming out saying

834
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: I want to fight him. In twenty twenty one, you

835
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: had Lopez himself at the postfight press or calling out

836
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: Devin Haney saying it was sad he was fighting a

837
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: washed gamboa. I don't know if you mentioned Ryan Garcia,

838
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: but he also took shots at Gervante Davis as well.

839
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: So BC set this up for us. Is it gonna

840
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: be a rematch? Is it gonna be hany? Is it

841
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: gonna be gravante if he beats Santa Cruz? Who Ryan Garcia?

842
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 2: Who the hell is this guy fighting next?

843
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: So what I was saying was, you know a lot

844
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: of people are gonna want him now to see him

845
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: against the very best lightweights. Go and get Hainey's secondary

846
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: WBC title. I don't see any of it happening because

847
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: when promoters get together and sort of share fighters or

848
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: do combined deals, they do it at the highest level.

849
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: Mayweather Pacquiao, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis was an HBO show

850
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: time co pay per view like Mayweather Pacquiao, now Fury Wilder.

851
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't see it happening on the in between fights

852
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: unless you know, because because look, their fighters are so

853
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: tied to networks these days. It's hard for me to

854
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: sit there and believe that a network executives be like, yeah, sure, fine,

855
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: go go across the street, go put the fight on

856
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: the other person's network. It's it's not gonna happen. What

857
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: is most realistic for both fighters, Luke, unless Lopez wants

858
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: to move up to one P forty right now, and

859
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't really see that happening right now. Because of

860
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: what we talked about. Jose Ramirez and Josh Josh Taylor

861
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: are going to have a fight for all four belts. Okay,

862
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: that's been a long time building. They're gonna have their

863
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: big fight. The biggest money fight for Lomachenko and Lopez

864
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: is each other once again. So, Luke, after you know,

865
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, forty eight hours of thinking about this,

866
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: not only do I think it's most likely, even though

867
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: there wasn't a rematch clause, which is very surprising for

868
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: this day and age in boxing for the big name

869
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: star not to have that, I do think that's where

870
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: they go. They're both on ESPN, they're both promoted by

871
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: top rank this fight. Putting it on regular ESPN got

872
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: a lot of crossover interest. And oh, by the way,

873
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: here's the most important part why I think it's next, Luke,

874
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: And you can tell me if I'm wrong. Lomachenko did

875
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: figure him out in the second half. We are rightfully

876
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: saying some bad things about Lomachenko, bad strategy, late adjustment,

877
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: the size factor got exposed against the guy who is

878
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: as elite as he is in certain categories. But you

879
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: go back and watch round seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

880
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: the first half of round twelve, you may have scored

881
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: a couple of those for Lopez, but Lomachenko was the

882
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: guy coming on finding the angles land in the power shots. Luke,

883
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: I think there is a sin lating way to sell

884
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: this rematch, which is what if Loma starts early, it

885
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: may end up ending the same way. Do you remember

886
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: that great, great chocol Latito fight against Stresa gets sore

887
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: rung Visi on the Triple G Danny Jacob's pay per

888
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: view undercard in twenty seventeen Absolute War right. Choco Latito

889
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: was number one pound for pound. He hung on for

890
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: a disputed decision. It was a bloodbath, one of the

891
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: best fights I was ever ringsided for. At MSG, they

892
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: did the rematch, so rung Visies sent him to hell.

893
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: We may see that, we may go out that way,

894
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: but I gotta see it, Luke, I gotta see it.

895
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: Because Lomachenko ran out of the ring, didn't do an interview.

896
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: He gave a very short one backstage and all he

897
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: said was, I you know, I figured him out. I

898
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: was coming on the judges got it wrong. Yeah, sour

899
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: grapes to a certain degree. But do you believe that

900
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Loma figured out enough where Yeah, he's always gonna have

901
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: to beware of the power, But you don't know what

902
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: the rematch would look like. I think that's why you're

903
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: gonna see it next.

904
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Do I think that there's enough reason to believe a

905
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: rematch could be different in either direction or even if

906
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: Lopez wins, certainly the fight takes on a different complexion. Yes,

907
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: is there a reason to do a rematch because of that?

908
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: I guess that depends on your appetite given what else

909
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: is available. We're talking about what should be next with you,

910
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: Femal Lopez, Tao, Femal Lopez. The idea that we have

911
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: to see a rematch, I don't buy the idea that

912
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: a rematch could be good enough to make and that's

913
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: better than any other fight that could be next for Lopez.

914
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: So why not just do the Lilmachenko fight? Fine, make

915
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: that case. But the idea that like he was figuring

916
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: him out, well, if he figured him out, then what

917
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: happened to the twelfth round where he got munished? I

918
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: mean that's just not really true. I mean that was

919
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: easily the best round that anybody won in either direction,

920
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: and that was commanded by Lopez. So to me, it's

921
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: like he figured him out to an extent. I think

922
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: that's true. Right. He was having his way arounds eight

923
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: to eleven, and it looked like Lopez was maybe maybe

924
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: getting tired, maybe not understanding some of the things in

925
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 2: terms of the volume and the angles and the setups

926
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: that was going his way. So could that be built

927
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: upon for the next one, Yes, but hello, Lopez is

928
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: going to make adjustments the next time too. And to

929
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: the extent honestly, you have to admit this to the

930
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: extent that either of them open up, or I should say,

931
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: to the extent that the fight opens up, I'm gonna

932
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: say that that favors somebody who's the bigger puncher like Lopez.

933
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the reasons why it took so

934
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: long for Lomachenko to get going was partly maybe he

935
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: misjudged it. The other one was he was eating heavy

936
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: body shots and he knew that if he opened up

937
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: he could get killed. He didn't want to. That's something

938
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: that's going to be there the very next fight, maybe

939
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: in just as much, if not worse the second time around.

940
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: So I can understand being a Lomachenko fan or just

941
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: a rational observer and saying there's a case to be

942
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: made for Lomachenko winning the rematch, the idea that it's

943
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: overwhelming or that this one is as disputed as the

944
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: Choko Latito fight you're referencing, I don't think that is true,

945
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: by the way.

946
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: I do think if they ran it back, if we're

947
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: using Lomachenko in the Chuck Latito role, I think Lopez

948
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: would have a good chance to knocking him out, because

949
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: if you're Lomachenko, you're gonna have to figure out a

950
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: way to be more offensive. And as we talked about,

951
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: the more offensive he is, the more he enters the

952
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: line of fire. But again, you want to give the

953
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: genius a chance to go back to the computer figure

954
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: out the second time. Well, I think it's high theater.

955
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be pushing for it right now as a fan,

956
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: right if there were other big options. I just don't

957
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: know why Golden Boy or his own would be like, yeah, her,

958
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: you could have Ryan Garcia, go ahead, put him on ESPN. No,

959
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen, right, you know, Eddie Hearn's not

960
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna say sure, Devin, Hey, Andy, go walk over there.

961
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean maybe if his owne exploded tomorrow, that could happen.

962
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: But uh, I want to live in a world. Look,

963
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: I want to live in a world where Tao can

964
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: fight the winner of Gervonte Davis and Leo Santa Cruz.

965
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: I want to get there. Okay, can you two names?

966
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: Two names for it? Two names, two names for you?

967
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: If Dravante wins, why or why not? Is that a possibility?

968
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: And here's the other one that I saw referenced. He's

969
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: got a fight coming up and he's got some work

970
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: to do. But let's say he wins it. Why not

971
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: Dravante if he wins, why not Bud Crawford if he

972
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: wins up a weight class for a taofe.

973
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: Dude, Now we are talking a little bit of bingo.

974
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: And I can insert one more name in there for you.

975
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: Are you ready? How about Many Pakiao, who's kind of

976
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: a promotional free agent at the moment right how about

977
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: Manny Pacio in a one hundred and forty pound cross

978
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: road showdown rising star against guy who still has it

979
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: as we saw in the Keith Thurman fight. I think

980
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: what would the best chance of one of these cross

981
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: fights happening might actually end up being if Gravanti Davis

982
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: beats Leo Santa Cruz. Dravonte has a really big following,

983
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: as we know, he's going to be coming off his

984
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: first pay per view, that might be one of those where,

985
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: like Wilder Fury, the powers that be could say, hey,

986
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: maybe we could do a two network thing. Maybe we

987
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: can figure this out. Uh Luke, I do really need

988
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: to see, though we saw Wilder Fury. I do need

989
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: to see Bud Crawford fight a PBC Welter Wait to

990
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: make me really believe though, that the streets are opening up.

991
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: Right Crawford Spence should have already happened, you know, to

992
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: my taste up to this point. Hopefully we're getting there.

993
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: If we end up building though toward Hey, Terrence Crawford

994
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: does not have elite Walter Waits on his side of

995
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: the road. He's beating up on the old emir cons.

996
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna fight old kel Brook.

997
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

998
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Right he's fighting cavaluskis because there's nobody else. It is

999
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: what it is. If Tao's the long game here, and

1000
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: by long game I mean a year, a year and

1001
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: a half to get to him. It doesn't have to

1002
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: be a long game. Look, we've seen people. We've seen

1003
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: the great Shane Moseley go from lightweight right to welterweight

1004
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: and beat Oscar de la Hoya. It's not impossible. When

1005
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: when you have the skills of Tao, maybe maybe you

1006
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: got maybe you're onto something. Maybe if you're team Tao

1007
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: too without the rematch, cause maybe you say, I don't

1008
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: want to roll the dice. We just beat Loan with Taco.

1009
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: What else do we have to prove? Let's go up.

1010
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: There's a lot of business that could be had there

1011
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: if Tao is ready to go to one forty and above.

1012
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: Fair enough? All right? That takes us to our final

1013
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: topic of the Top five here on Monday show. Namely,

1014
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: we only talked about two fights so far. It's a

1015
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: limited show. We gotta do what we gotta do. Want

1016
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: to talk about the most important things. But there are

1017
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: some people that deserve shout outs. There are some other

1018
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: standouts from the Weekend BC. How about Jessica Rage. She

1019
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: did just absolutely phenomenal against Caitlyn Chukegian. What do you

1020
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: make of her? Why does she deserve some praise here

1021
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: on this Monday morning afternoon show.

1022
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's one of the big MVPs of this weekend,

1023
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: becoming the first UFC female. Sorry, I got I got

1024
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: issues there. I got a lot of issues here. I'm

1025
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: working them out though. All right, we'll becoming the first

1026
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: UFC female to win a fight in three different divisions.

1027
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: This was impressive. We already know that previously when bandon

1028
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: wait was the only division that she was a player.

1029
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: She had some wins, she had some losses, she was good.

1030
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: But to go down to strawwaight completely build herself up

1031
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: into a world champion, and now to move up where

1032
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: the path toward a title shot is like that compared

1033
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: to women's strawweight right the elite division, it's like that

1034
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: to go in there being eight inches shorter than an

1035
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: elite fighter in Caitlyn Chukegan and to send her to

1036
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: hell via vicious body shots and throwing a couple slams.

1037
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: This one eye opening. And why it was most eye opening, Luke,

1038
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: is that even though I'd been minimally excited of late

1039
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: for this dead empty division Women's one twenty five, that

1040
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: there's nobody, and I mean nobody who could give Valentina

1041
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: Chefchenko even you know something to blink at that we'd

1042
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: had a few names that were starting to distinguish them themselves.

1043
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: But in reality, Luke, could any of those names get

1044
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: you excited? No, you're not fired up to see Jennifer

1045
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Maya against it. No, you're not fired up to see anybody.

1046
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: I'd be fired up to see Jessica Andrage going there

1047
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: against Valentina. You wouldn't favor her, you'd give her that

1048
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: puncher's chance.

1049
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: Though.

1050
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: The thing about Andrage is she's she can elevate herself

1051
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: to the elite level because of her power and her strength,

1052
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: and that strength seems to not know any boundaries or

1053
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: limits when it comes to wait. I am just so

1054
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: excited that in a division in which you have one

1055
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: of the best fighters of all time, and that is

1056
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: true about Valentina, one of the best fighters of all time.

1057
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: As you're champion, now you've got a legitimate challenger. I

1058
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: don't think you f roun. I think you sent her

1059
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: right to the title shot. She'll gets the winner of

1060
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: Maya chef Chenko, And I think we got a little

1061
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: business here, Luke. I mean, I don't think the hype

1062
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: matters she's got tree trunk thighs, and I say that

1063
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: in a respectful way about a great female fighter. She's

1064
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: strong as an ox. She's long suffering. We saw that

1065
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: against both Rose and the rematch in and the yu

1066
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: Wanna fight. She'll she'll take a beat and and keep

1067
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: coming and linger Luke. She did well. This is big

1068
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: news for that division.

1069
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, she pound for pound might be the strongest fighter

1070
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: in the UFC. I don't think that's necessarily crazy to say.

1071
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: The things she can do and the way she can

1072
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: weaponize her strength. You saw it in the fight on Saturday,

1073
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: picking Chukegi it up like a child to get the

1074
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: takedown that she wanted, and you indicated something that I

1075
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: thought was kind of interesting that she had the wins

1076
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: in one fifteen now one twenty five and then obviously

1077
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five previously. But to me, the

1078
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: thing that really stands out is when you look at

1079
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: her game and you look at some of the successes

1080
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: that she's had and some of the challenges. There were

1081
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: times where she leaned on those physical tools a little

1082
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: too much to get the job done. And they're so

1083
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: formidable against lesser competition that they will but then you know,

1084
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: she would go up against somebody who was just a

1085
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 2: little bit better, who could find ways to handle that strength,

1086
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: maybe not match it, but you know, diffuse it, handle it,

1087
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: deal with it, and she would have problems. Whether it

1088
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: was Johanna sticking the jab in her face and sticking

1089
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: and moving right because of all you've done is developed

1090
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: a big punch and use your big power. That's only

1091
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: going to get you so far, or someone like the

1092
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: current bantamweight champ Jang Way Lee, who you know, just

1093
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: sort of met power for power in a short window,

1094
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: not so much wrestling but striking and overcame it. Now

1095
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: what you've seen is somebody who is look she still

1096
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 2: uses her strength and sometimes it deserves to be said,

1097
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 2: uses it to fill in the gaps in her technical

1098
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: know how. But those gaps have significantly narrowed. She has

1099
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 2: worked on her head movement, she has worked on her striking,

1100
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: she has worked on her shot selection, she has worked

1101
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: on you know, how do I want to win this

1102
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: fight from a strategy standpoint? What skills do I have

1103
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: to bring that to life? Are? How do I connect

1104
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: all those dots? You can tell she's beginning to really

1105
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: think through the problems, and so it's good to have

1106
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: the strength that she does or the power that she

1107
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: does as a backup pull that card when you need it.

1108
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: The less the better, But if you need it, hey

1109
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: rely on it. It's okay, right, But if you've got

1110
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: all those other things in front of it, you can

1111
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: do a lot with it. And now the marriage of

1112
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 2: the two in this particular fight I thought was pretty incredible.

1113
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: So I love that she is now ostensibly your number

1114
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: one contender, you know, after Chevchenko's next fight. I think

1115
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: Chefchenko versus Androge is a hell of a contest for

1116
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: all the reasons I just mentioned. Plus now Androge has

1117
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: all this experience right weight class, much more developed than

1118
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: she ever was, still strong as shit, and has seen

1119
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: a lot of different competitive looks across three divisions, a

1120
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: lot of different body types, a lot of different skill sets.

1121
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: I still like Schevchenko because you're right. I think she's

1122
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: one of the best fighters UFC has today and certainly

1123
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: maybe ever. But that is so much more interesting than

1124
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: what we thought was possible when Shivchenka was fighting Jessica.

1125
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: I yeah, can we shout out on Rodga's new look

1126
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: with a with a high, tight fade.

1127
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: Hell of a fade there. That's a better haircut than

1128
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: you and I have ever had.

1129
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: I'd pay one hundred bucks for that fade. I wouldn't

1130
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: for yours, Luke. But that's you know, it's fantastic.

1131
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know you're also cheap and you know

1132
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: deserves to be said. Okay, BC, we have gotten to

1133
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: our top five. Now it is time to get to

1134
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: where the viewers get a chance to ask us some questions.

1135
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: It is time for d ms from donks. Hey, Jake

1136
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: got the animation right. I thought he was gonna put

1137
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: up dead wrong. That'd been the kind of day that

1138
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: it is, all right, BC?

1139
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, can we just bring a jay real

1140
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: quick to control the fans. Jay, that was a brutal,

1141
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: brutal showing out of you after we praised you there

1142
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: with all the I mean I was having a seizure

1143
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: from seeing all those things jump up. Yeah. No, the

1144
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: timing could not have been worse for that.

1145
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's h me, that's me.

1146
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: This is Look, this is like bringing in a referee

1147
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: after he screws up and trying to you know, and

1148
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: stick a microphone in front of his face.

1149
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1150
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I said that's on me.

1151
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: You know, referees will be like, no, no, we got it.

1152
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: Write hey, jay I did see in a comment because

1153
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed, but we are, we're climbing,

1154
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: and we have sixty something thousand subscribers. They said, if

1155
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: we can get to one hundred k, they want to

1156
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: see your eyea hall, give you retribution, redemption and send

1157
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: you to hell with a spinning back kick.

1158
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: That would hurt because that guy kicks good. I need

1159
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: a couple months to get in shape for that, but

1160
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: you know we could run it back a right.

1161
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: Look, you believe nothing of their sparring session. You believe

1162
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: you believe no facts coming out of jay On that I.

1163
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: Know, no, no, completely fake news. All right, So let's

1164
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: go to our first question here from at our Dylan

1165
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Carrey BC. Is Brian Ortega stylistically the worst matchup for

1166
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: Habib after showing his new level of striking. What do

1167
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: you think?

1168
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: Now?

1169
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: Think about that before you answer, let me let me

1170
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: get let me one up the antsy here. I had

1171
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: Ortega on my show about a year after he fought Holloway.

1172
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: He was looking for a fight, right, so he was yes,

1173
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: he had lost a Holloway, but he was, you know,

1174
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 2: training again and over the surgery on his hand, blah

1175
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: blah blah, and I think it was you know what,

1176
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: you know what it was. I can't remember exactly, but

1177
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: he was on my show and he was making the

1178
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: case that he was the worst fight for Habib. He

1179
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just gonna play guard and I dare you.

1180
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: I dare you Habib to get into my guard. Watch

1181
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: what happens.

1182
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: You are not gonna interesting thought. But I still think

1183
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: he gets swallow up and wrestling on there. I mean,

1184
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. He's gonna have to, you know,

1185
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: go up a weight class which might diminish him. Look,

1186
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: I've always said this, Luke, and this is you know

1187
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: a little teaser toward our preview for Saturday's fight, where

1188
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, I always said there's one guy, there's one

1189
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: onegue guy that can beat Hoppy outside of Connor, you know,

1190
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: putting his head on and landing one lucky punchers. One

1191
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: guy and his Tony Ferguson's you only got to be Habib. Now,

1192
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: I think that one guy might be just engage so U.

1193
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: I like the idea, but no, I still think it

1194
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 1: ends badly.

1195
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, I think it's a very interesting idea.

1196
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: It is amazing that we are nearly thirty fights into

1197
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: the career of Numergam Madoff. He is undefeated and a

1198
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: lot of these fights tend to go a little bit long,

1199
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 2: like he doesn't get a lot of first round subs

1200
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: or KOs, and we still don't really understand the totality

1201
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: of his game, Like against gae Chee, is he gonna

1202
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: be able to take him down? Probably, you know, but

1203
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: how often? And what can he do while he's down there?

1204
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: We don't really know what happens if he can't take

1205
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: him down, how far can his strike and carry him?

1206
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: Like we don't really know the answer to that number one.

1207
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: Number two. It's like, okay, what if someone just gave

1208
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: up position and said take me down and then they

1209
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: went to guard. What would happen there? Like would he pass?

1210
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: And if he passed, would he like get into trouble

1211
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: like because the pass was a setup for something else?

1212
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: Like what happens if Kabeb gets his back taken? Like

1213
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: We've just never seen any number of these other scenarios

1214
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: to really know. So I'll say this, I think you know,

1215
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: evidence being what it is. It's not crazy to think

1216
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: Habib can handle some of these situations. But I gotta

1217
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 2: tell you I'm a little bit more willing to give

1218
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: the underdog here a chance than maybe some other folks.

1219
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: Look, how would you have liked Max Holloway's chances at

1220
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: two twenty three, the same week of the bus incident

1221
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: with Canelo? I mean Canelo, good God, Connor McGregor, and

1222
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: it turned out obviously to be Ali Kina. Would you

1223
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: have liked Halloway's chances at all in that last minute

1224
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: situation to you know, not win maybe, but to give

1225
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: Habib a different look that he's never seen.

1226
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: I think I like them more than others may have.

1227
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: I think Max Holloway has extraordinarily good takedown defense. You

1228
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 2: saw Volkanovsky late in the fight, I think get one

1229
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: or two, and he couldn't do too much with him,

1230
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: And you think, well, Volkanovsky's small, right, but he's very powerful.

1231
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: He has very good takedowns. I'm not saying they're on

1232
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 2: par with Habib's, but you know he's gonna Habib is

1233
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: gonna take down folks who can't get taken down, and

1234
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: so is Vulkanovsky. I think they can both be considered

1235
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: two of those guys. So I'll say I'd probably still

1236
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: favor Habib to win, but I think I think Volcano,

1237
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: excuse me, I think Hollow would have out performed the skeptics.

1238
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: I'll put it that way.

1239
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna have to see Habib get out

1240
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: of the mckenza team before I, you know, before I

1241
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: give him the not over anybody?

1242
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: All right, No one gets out of the mckenza team,

1243
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: all right? At dB underscore Scott underscore outlaw. Why am

1244
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: I okay with the immediate championship rematches in boxing? But

1245
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: in MMA they pissed me off? Uh?

1246
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: Scott, maybe you have issues? Maybe in boxing sometimes the

1247
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: immediate championship rematch is the uh is the best and

1248
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: only big fight you can make in certain circumstances.

1249
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

1250
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: And in I don't know, I don't know. I mean,

1251
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: what do I look like Scott's psychiatrists here?

1252
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't know? All right? From I don't have much time.

1253
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, well, look, maybe maybe because we see more

1254
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: shitty decisions in boxing which make us want to see

1255
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: them run it back to kind of fix them.

1256
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: Right, That sounds That's as good an answer as I

1257
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: think you're gonna find all right from at Randy vill Rama,

1258
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: how do you think a pretty, a prime pretty boy

1259
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: Mayweather would have done against both Lopez or Lomachenko at

1260
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: like wow.

1261
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, let's let's talk about it here, Okay, pretty

1262
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: boy Floyd, which was the Floyd at basically you know

1263
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: one forty and below before he became Floyd Money. Mayweather

1264
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: at welterweight was way more offensive than people realized. Luke.

1265
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: It was before the hand issues, It was before he

1266
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: was moving up and losing some of the size advantages.

1267
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: You do have to remember that Mayweather, even at welterweight,

1268
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: has like a freakiusly long reach. People forget this. I

1269
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: love his chances against both, Luke, I really do. I mean, look,

1270
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Speaker 1: those are both great myth matchup Monday, mythical fights. I

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00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be too big for Lomachenko, and while

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00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: I think Lomachenko is gonna give him, certainly some of

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00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: the best looks from a chess match that anybody else could.

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00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: Loma Chank W one thirty five again is a little

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00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: physically over his head. Doesn't mean he can't win great fights,

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00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can't continue to campaign there and win.

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00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: It just means if you find somebody who's your relative

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00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: equal from the standpoint of speed, IQ, reaction time, counterpunching,

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00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: all that, that's when the size becomes an issue. Floyd

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00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: had power at lightweight. Floyd. You know Floyd would would

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00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: would would put people down. I mean, so I like

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: him there, and I like him obviously against Lopez as well.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, I don't have much to ad. I don't

1284
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 2: have enough of a knowledge base to answer that one adequately. So, BC,

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00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 2: the most important question I could possibly ask you comes

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00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: to us from at Emilio Bruce underscore question for BC.

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00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: What's your educated opinion on Brian? Or take as cup.

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00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: Let me just say something about Brian or take us cup.

1289
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: That fuck that fucking thing. He was in one area

1290
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: code as zip code rather and his cup was in another.

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: I never see the cup where you know he went

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01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: tip to tip with poor Korean zombie and they were

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01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: standing on opposite sides of the octagon. How is that possible? BC?

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that a large covers he just happy to

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: be there? Might be both. Luke, that thing was sticking

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01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: like through my screen. I thought that was the only

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01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: one that mentioned it. I didn't have the balls to

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Speaker 1: tweet about his balls. But uh, wow, that's either that

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01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: man is. Maybe there's a reason that man had a

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01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: great two years, if you know what I mean. You

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01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Maybe we saw that reason on Saturday.

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01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't really want to invent.

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01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I went back and I watched

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: the Holloway fight. I was like, did you have a

1305
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: big ass cup in that one too? And he did.

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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: It's a little less noticeable in part because he was

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01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: getting tuned up, like in the face right with the punch,

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01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: Like all of Max's punches, like eighty five percent went

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01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: to his face, so you're just kind of focused there.

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01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: And he also had like the board shorts, which don't

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01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: sell it as much this time. You know, the fight

1312
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: was kind of slow, and he was moving around and

1313
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: he had the old tight you know, biker shorts on.

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that thing, you know, just swing that.

1315
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: But I mean I was surprised there weren't more IP

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01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: folks with that thing. Jesus Christ.

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01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move on here, thank you very much.

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01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: All right, all right, And in the last but not least,

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01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: from at Jonathan to Derry Anne, who gets sent to hell,

1320
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: more BC during interviews or Luke versus his audio.

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: It's a great question. It's a great question, Luke.

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01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: That's the Lopez versus Lomachenko of questions here for setups.

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01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, there was on brand for you to completely

1324
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: f up your live chat. I should have came in.

1325
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: I should have parachuted in on my day off and

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01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: saved the day for you there, Luke.

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01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what I'd say, more recently, you

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01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: get sent to hell historically over during your interviews. That is,

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: historically over the course of my YouTube career. I would

1330
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: say I definitely have had more being sent to hell

1331
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: issues with my audio, for sure.

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't really get sent to hell a

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01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: lot in previous interviews. A dream to hang up on

1334
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: me in twenty thirteen, but that it was. It was

1335
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: not regular last year and a half. They're coming for me, Luke.

1336
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: Okay, what happened with what happened with Adrian Broner?

1337
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I was twenty thirteen. I was early in my

1338
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: interview game. It was on a podcast. I think I

1339
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: I asked too early the kind of challenging questions that

1340
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: we all want to ask about being a Floyd clone

1341
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: and stuff. Like that, and he checked out after answer

1342
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: to and then he started just basically saying nonsense and

1343
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: they just hung up. So, I mean, look, we've all

1344
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: been there, Luke.

1345
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, well you can get it, as he is so

1346
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: fond of telling the world.

1347
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, well yeah the can man indeed, yes,

1348
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: all right, can armena cans Armena cans connecticuns? Did they tells?

1349
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, all right. See it's time where we get

1350
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: silly take it over.

1351
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: Please, Well it doesn't have to be silly, Luke. We

1352
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: could see some violence, Haary.

1353
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: This is what we do.

1354
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: We Yeah, we scoured the globe for the highs and lows,

1355
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: the good, the bad and in between in combat sports

1356
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 1: and beyond. Luc It's the best segment in all digital video.

1357
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: It's called have you seen the shit? Luke? Have you

1358
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: seen the light heavyweight from UFC over the weekend? Jimmy

1359
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: Crew maybe more like Jimmy Brute sending my Lithuanian bro

1360
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: Han Bukowski's to the deep dark depths. I don't think

1361
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: we have it on video here, but did you like

1362
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: him jumping over the fence and getting the uh thet Well,

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01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: look at the little week look at the weekend at

1364
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: Bernie's Action. He's doing right here. But did you like

1365
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: him jumping over the fence and giving Dan to the

1366
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: high five?

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Speaker 2: Luke. I'm not much of a I don't. It doesn't

1368
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 2: move me one way or the other. The fence jumping scenario, Like,

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01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't care about it, either positively or negatively.

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01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: I'll say, if you knock a guy out, I feel

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01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: like this is the routine, and like, you know, this

1372
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: is not a thing I can brag about because Helo,

1373
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, never done it. But I feel like you

1374
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 2: knock the guy out like that, the trick is go

1375
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: celebrate and then come back and check on it. When

1376
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: they do that thing where like he immediately tries to

1377
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: pick him up and carry him like a baby for bedtime,

1378
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: Like write this, I feel like it's a little too much.

1379
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do that. Get away from him. Let the

1380
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: man take the l on his own. I agree with

1381
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: you on that. Well, when we found out in the

1382
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: aftermath of this great knockout, if we didn't already know,

1383
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: was that Jimmy Crewe lives in a van down by

1384
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: the river, Luke, and he confirmed it after brett O

1385
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: Komodo put it out on Twitter that he that he

1386
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: lives in a van outside the gym parking lot, and

1387
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 1: Jimmy said it takes away all the distractions of going

1388
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: home because he lives two hours from training camp. It

1389
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: lets him focus one training and recovery. Luke, Wow, he's

1390
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: got to pull out couch in there.

1391
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: I guess, well, you know what, I'll say this, he's

1392
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: tough at shit. He's like a super in shape Chris Farley. Then,

1393
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: and I'll also say like legitimately in his favorite dude has.

1394
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: He's legit. Like these guys coming out of New Zealand

1395
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: and Australia, whether it's city kickboxing or not, they're producing

1396
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: some serious talent down there, and he is looking like

1397
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: the real deal for the next I won't say number

1398
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 2: one contender, but he's moving his way up the food

1399
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 2: chain there BC pretty rapidly.

1400
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: All right. Well, also from Saturday and Fight Island, let's

1401
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: just relive how great this spinning back elbow was that

1402
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: Ortega hit Zombie with. Look, that was even for a

1403
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: it's a sneaky strike, it's spinny shit, but he made

1404
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: it extra sneaky. That was tight right there. That was

1405
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 1: like twenty thirteen Vitor Belfort tight right.

1406
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait till I show you something from the tape

1407
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: that I picked up and looking at this and everyone

1408
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: was like showing like, oh, he drilled this in the

1409
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: locker room. Isn't that interesting? Do y'all think he just like,

1410
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: what is the alternative to just invent some shit on

1411
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: the fly, Like, of course he drilled it in the

1412
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: locker room. That's how you learn to throw shit. You

1413
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: practice it incessantly, Like I don't you know, it's cool

1414
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: to see the symmetry I get, but I don't quite

1415
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: understand the novelty of it.

1416
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: That was tight as shit though.

1417
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: That was like, uh no, it's amazing. I meilled it.

1418
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: He killed it, all right.

1419
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: Let's we mentioned this on Friday show. Now we have

1420
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: video from Bellatour two forty nine Kerman la Chinov. I

1421
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: don't know if I pronounced that correct, but he did

1422
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: a great Ricardo my orgo with this, Luke, looka this

1423
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: zombie routine. And he was yelling, that's all you got.

1424
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just dirt bag cave man bullshit.

1425
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: And I love it.

1426
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: I love it, you know what That's like there's nothing

1427
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: you can say, and like that's super refined. It's a

1428
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: cerebral way to fight. That's just he man, you know,

1429
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: grew over the top nonsense that I am here for

1430
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the way. And he won the fight.

1431
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 2: By the way.

1432
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: Well, it's very shades of two thousand and four middleweight

1433
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: fight Madison Square guard in Ricardo Majorga and Tito Trinded

1434
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: had one of the best electric crowds that we've seen

1435
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: in boxing in recent memory. And look at mya just

1436
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: saying right here, right here, one more time, Yes, yes,

1437
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: I love that ish He's He's been known to do

1438
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: that multiple times. Luke, did you see when he fought

1439
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 1: when he got fat and fought at Mosley the second

1440
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: time he did the same thing. I think we have it. Yeah,

1441
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: here it is all right.

1442
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: Or when he told Oscar de la Hoya he was

1443
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: going to drink his wife's breast milk.

1444
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, professional thing. Put it on me, Put it on

1445
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: me right here. I guess they say, if you can

1446
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: see it coming, Luke, you don't get knocked out. I

1447
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: don't know if that really works, but we also have

1448
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that that fat and

1449
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: sloppy rematch between Christy Martin and Mia Saint John. A

1450
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Christy Martin closed the fight with

1451
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: this trick, but she almost got caught with it. It

1452
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: was a little bit tough to watch. Luke checked this

1453
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: out and yeah, then we hug it out all right,

1454
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: that was weird. Let's move on from that, Luke. I

1455
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw. Over the weekend in England

1456
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: there was a controversial bout. Lewis Ritzen took a split

1457
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: decision win over Miguel Vasquez, which nobody thought. I mean,

1458
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: Ritzen lost every metric of the punch stats. It was

1459
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: a bad night for him at the office. This British judge,

1460
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: though I don't have his name in front of me,

1461
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: was caught looking at his cell phone. And this was

1462
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: the guy who scored it one seventeen one eleven for

1463
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: Louis the Sandman Ritzen. Luke, what do we do with this?

1464
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: And you get mad at me for elder abuse, you

1465
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: have the temerity send this man to the old folks,

1466
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: feed him to tapioca pudding three times a day, hot

1467
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: and a cot and be done with this loser. I honestly,

1468
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: in all seriousness, you should lose your job for this.

1469
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: You should lose what is he what.

1470
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: Is he looking at?

1471
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: What is what do you?

1472
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope it's If it's nudes, I'll let

1473
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: him pass.

1474
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: I'll just be like he's he's definitely on red Tube.

1475
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no denying that. Right now.

1476
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: Eddie Hearn is gonna he did tweet out that he's

1477
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna send this to the British Board of Boxing Control

1478
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: to get this blow.

1479
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: You should lose your job for that. I mean, these

1480
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: are people's lives, you know.

1481
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,480
Speaker 1: Hey, Luke, let's check in. Do you get down with barstools?

1482
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: Rough and rowdy? You like when when these hell billies

1483
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: send each other to hell? Check out this right.

1484
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 2: Hold that jeth Row.

1485
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: Lach in Thunder.

1486
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what BC. I didn't know Vans

1487
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: made boxing shoes. Oh.

1488
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: I think that guy Luke was bartending before this. They

1489
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: literally pulled him from behind the bar for this. Uh wow, Yeah,

1490
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: take me Home Country Road. That's great, all right, let's

1491
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: go on, Luke. This happened again last night, but this

1492
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: video is a little bit older. It's a week old.

1493
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: Enrique Hernandez of the Dodgers hit a big home run

1494
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: in Game one of the NLCS to uh tie the game.

1495
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't watch baseball anymore. It's for

1496
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: old people. But hey, nice little home run there. But

1497
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: did you see the celebration afterwards that the Dodgers pulled off?

1498
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, trotting the bases. Fuck the braves by the way,

1499
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah there.

1500
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: The Kirk Gibson. Right, you got to do the lawnmower start.

1501
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't see anything. Hold on, what's the There we go? Okay, oh,

1502
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: here we go? All right, he does the fist dap

1503
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: all right.

1504
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: You know hey, buddy, how are you? Yeah? Okay, it's

1505
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: pretty hetero so far right? Right? You know what that

1506
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: tip tip lets.

1507
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 2: That is awesome. You gotta be shitting me.

1508
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: Just the tip though, just for a second there. Shout

1509
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: out to the Dodgers. I think they're wow. I don't

1510
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: really watch this stuff anymore.

1511
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that is great. I watched the nets. I

1512
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: watched the nets. But that's it. I don't care why

1513
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: anybody else.

1514
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: All right, Wow, hey, this street fight video is making

1515
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: the rounds. Here. Shout out to street beefs. Did you

1516
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: see this, Luke when Beverly Hills Ninja came out to

1517
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: fight the guy with the moves? Check check this piece

1518
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: of business style. This guy, Luke. Look at Kombu Panda

1519
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: right there on the right.

1520
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 2: These two guys definitely kings of the prom each one rival.

1521
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: And all it takes is one punch, Luke. Maybe it

1522
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: was a kick hold that, as Luke would say, good god.

1523
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: You know, if you're fighting in front of some hail

1524
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: hey bails, then you know it's a you know, it's

1525
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: street beafs.

1526
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: Right, bro, you cannot lose to the fat guy in

1527
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 2: the Halloween costume. You can't do that.

1528
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 1: It was very you know, reminiscent of Haru, right, you

1529
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: remember the great White Ninjak rec Look, can we advance

1530
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 1: the slide please?

1531
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: Dude?

1532
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: This is I think that's a Stuppel game right there.

1533
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: Look way movie it still holds up. Okay, I watch

1534
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: it with my kids. Ooh oh yeah, gave it. Put

1535
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: it on him, Put it on him.

1536
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: We've actually made a couple of Chris Farley references today.

1537
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: That's funny.

1538
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go back, go back.

1539
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: If you can show the clip from the fight itself.

1540
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: I just want to see something here very quickly, if

1541
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: I if we can, very difficult task. Now, this referee

1542
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: looks relatively normal, right, This guy here, he looks relatively normal.

1543
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: There is the promoter.

1544
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh he's the promoter. Okay, why is the referee here? Fat?

1545
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: Look at him? They're all fat. Have you noticed that,

1546
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: like sideshow Bob put on like fifty fifty LB's there?

1547
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: Bow bow hold out there?

1548
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: Son? Wow? All right, you would not believe how many

1549
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: times that video got sent to me. Let's let's check

1550
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: out some global prevention updates. Here, doctor Fauci, this is

1551
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: in Mexico for a ESPN Deporte's knockout card. Look, this

1552
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: is not healthy.

1553
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: What is this?

1554
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: Was there a fumigation?

1555
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: What is this? This kills COVID and or fleas and

1556
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: or humans?

1557
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: Luke, this is I think this is Hitler esque.

1558
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: What is this? Yeah, it's like okay, it's like good news.

1559
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: It kills COVID? Bad news. Also people. What is the

1560
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 2: point of killing everyone in the audience so that you

1561
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: can have an audience?

1562
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1563
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

1564
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 1: Well, look there's a Russian man and shout out to

1565
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: the great Instagram account at Look at this Russian who

1566
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: has figured out another way to stay safe. Luke, you

1567
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: know in this COVID times, Jake, can you hit the

1568
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: button please. You know we're seeing a lot of hand

1569
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 1: sanitizer around you know what, Well, I just get a

1570
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: taste of that, right Well, it's just you know, you know,

1571
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make out with chicks during the quarantine, Luke,

1572
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: you do want to keep safe.

1573
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 2: Right, Okay? You know what, My man is hard up

1574
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 2: for some booze. Somebody get this guy. Somebody get this guy.

1575
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: This is the dude who, like you know, is shoplifting

1576
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: Nikewell to get the.

1577
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: Coding out, Yes he is. He's definitely a meth cooker. Yes,

1578
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: I love that man. Great work right there. All right, Hey,

1579
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,440
Speaker 1: speaking of famous Russians or Kergs, how about the Valentina

1580
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: sisters here, the chef Chenkos posing with Don Junior, Luke,

1581
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: or all of our MMA heroes big maga heads are

1582
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: just most of them?

1583
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 2: No, I think most of them. There's very few. On

1584
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: the other side, I think the huge majority of them.

1585
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 2: They love them. Some mags.

1586
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: Which one you think Don Junior prefers?

1587
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: Let me think about that, Probably the one with more gold,

1588
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: So I'll say Valentina.

1589
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fair it's a fair guest. Right there.

1590
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: We'll shout out to the Hey, they they have readopted

1591
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: themselves as Peruvians. So are they in your They are

1592
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: in your sphere of respect now as.

1593
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 2: Now aren't they? I could be wrong about this, but

1594
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I believe they have

1595
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: Peruvian citizenship. They do.

1596
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: They do.

1597
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1598
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: So have you ever drinking Inca Cola. It's called the

1599
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: Champagne of cola. They have it at this at this

1600
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: bootleg store down the road. For me, there's only one

1601
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: country in the world, Jay, no, not time for a

1602
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: baila yet. No, no, Jay, There's only one country in

1603
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: the world in which Coca Cola is out sold, and

1604
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: it's Peru. And it's because of Inca Cola. You know,

1605
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: Valentina is a she has a commercial campaign.

1606
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: So ready for this. Every country in South America has

1607
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: their own like national brand. To your point, Inca Cola

1608
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: is the big one out of Peru. But you can

1609
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: get it here as well. Just go to any like

1610
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: uh you know, Latin grocery store. Colombia has their own

1611
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: version of it. It's not the same as in Co Cola,

1612
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: but their own like national cola. It's called Colombiana. But

1613
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: here's the trick. See, they have a drink there called rafajo,

1614
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 2: which is if you have a hangover on Sunday when

1615
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: you get up to go have brunch to get over

1616
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: the hangover, you take a picture, you pour half Columbiana

1617
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: half beer and you drink that with your meal.

1618
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: Is that like a South American bloody Mary something like that?

1619
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: Would you have rafajo if you ever got a hangover?

1620
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? I try it because I get vicious ones, Luke,

1621
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: I got Yeah, I had a one beer hangover the

1622
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: other night because like the barometer changed the weather day.

1623
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: Of No, just drink more water, you little girl.

1624
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: It's not no.

1625
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: You don't know.

1626
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: Don't speak for my body. You don't know what goes

1627
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: on inside of here. All right? Hey, Luke, you had

1628
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: mentioned on Friday Show in which we you know, we

1629
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: debuted my cat, Reggie Jackson, your cat Booger, your your

1630
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: beautiful daughter, that a Buela was was visiting Columbia. Right now,

1631
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: let's check in with a bueila right now. There's south

1632
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: of the border. You know what, God, that smile, look

1633
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: at that smile? Yeah, Luke, when I visit your home

1634
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: in DC, I'll bring my family. Do you think of buila?

1635
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: And I can get down like this?

1636
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: I don't think that my buila is necessarily all that

1637
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: big a fan of marijuana. But we definitely will throw

1638
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: back a couple of beers together, how about that?

1639
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: Okay? All right, well we'll talk about Yeah, we'll talk

1640
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: about the Escobars. Would be great. I love it. Okay, great,

1641
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 1: Well don't let's.

1642
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 2: Don't on here. Yeah, don't do that part you can no, no, no, no,

1643
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: don't do that.

1644
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: All right? You know we like trampoline fails in these parts, Luke,

1645
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: But check out this dude's left wrist as he as

1646
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: he sends himself to the deep dark devs. Wow, Luke, yikes.

1647
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: Oh that just makes my dad just put his lover

1648
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: out of commission right there.

1649
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: Ah, Gravity's like hold that.

1650
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 1: Yikes? All right, well, Luke, your favorite kind of videos

1651
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: on this segment?

1652
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 2: Oh way, And I know everyone gets bitter at me

1653
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 2: when I say this, BC, but I'm sorry. The facts

1654
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: are what they are. You can devise whatever theory you want.

1655
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 2: Whenever we look at fails like this, BC, they're always white.

1656
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: And you can say I'm wrong, but I'm not.

1657
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: And this is also why my kids will not be

1658
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: getting a trampoline well while they're under my insurance. Policy.

1659
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, your favorite videos are knockouts in which

1660
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: the the man getting sent downstairs testifies to the congregation.

1661
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: Check out this fighting organization in Vegas called Pyramid Fights.

1662
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: We've got a new preacher stepping up to the altar.

1663
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: There, Luke, wow, testifying in church? Well he saw Jesus

1664
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,480
Speaker 2: bacham Wow.

1665
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: That is great? Is that like a high school cafeteria?

1666
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: Who's I know, it's amazing. It's like this is a

1667
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 2: PTA meeting. Hey, by the way, let's watch this guy

1668
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: get brain damage. Hey, you know what's amazing about this? Though,

1669
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 2: we shouldn't talk about this for just a second. BC,

1670
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: we were talking about like the you know, the amazing

1671
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: Buckley k over Kasangani, right, maybe the best one in

1672
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: MMA history, right, And people were saying, oh, what we

1673
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 2: love about it was what Buckley did? We don't, you know,

1674
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: not Kasanga I not what happened to him. And I'm like, well,

1675
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: that's not totally true, is it? Like yes, of course

1676
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: you want kasang and I to be okay. I mean,

1677
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 2: the sport doesn't work if people are getting really so

1678
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 2: so severely hurt in that kind of way. But it's

1679
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: like how the person reacts, who got hit. Yes, tells

1680
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: you the story of the damage and like.

1681
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: It's sorry, that's part of the knockout. I find that

1682
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: in boxing knockouts of the year, if they fall face first,

1683
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 1: if the person does their job, who lost their life

1684
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: in that transaction and like twitches or does something wild,

1685
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: that can add a lot to it.

1686
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, I hope understand that. That's why you gotta

1687
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 2: be honest with yourself about the fandom here. Yeah, Scott

1688
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: van Pelt don't want to have this discussion, okay. By

1689
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: the way, he replied to you on Twitter, Yeah he did.

1690
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: A nice guy DC guy, A nice guy, nice guy.

1691
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Luke, you know regional MMA. Anything like

1692
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: this can happen at the PTA meeting. Tell me if

1693
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: this is morally corrupted this fact I faked a heart

1694
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: attack and then got the knockout, Luke, I don't know

1695
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: about this.

1696
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 2: Come on, all right, my understanding and I could be

1697
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: wrong about this, so please someone double check us and

1698
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, we'll do it in dead wrong on Friday.

1699
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: My understanding is at least for a time, and maybe

1700
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 2: this is no longer the case BC, but it was

1701
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: for a time that faking an injury to trick an

1702
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 2: opponent was specifically banned under the Unified rules. I actually

1703
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: think that this either was or is illegal.

1704
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: Wow. I had thought he maybe just dislocated his shoulder

1705
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: like Tommy Reardon and they decided to let the fight

1706
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: go on for two more rounds like in Warrior, you know,

1707
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: But no, I thought it was that.

1708
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was like that SNL skitch where they're

1709
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: talking about Da Bear's and the guys all have heart

1710
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: attacks and then like pound their chest to like work

1711
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 2: the heart attack through.

1712
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's another Farley reference. What a day? All right?

1713
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: All right, hey, let's bring on the hot chick moment

1714
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: of the week. This chick started out in a two

1715
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: piece ended up in a thong. Luke, This is this

1716
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: is great stuff right here. I mean get oh.

1717
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: That, I don't care what you know, pork and beans

1718
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: or something else down there that's gonna hurt ad is.

1719
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that Campbell's dead. Look, yeah that is that

1720
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: is uh wow? Yeah, all right, I got one more

1721
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: for you on the way out. It is Halloween season,

1722
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: but we already have a winner for best costume. Check

1723
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: out this couple. Luke, Wow, you know what that is?

1724
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 2: Great.

1725
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: I love that Predator amazing. I know you could appreciate that.

1726
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 1: That is amazing.

1727
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 2: I love that. That's a great job. What are you

1728
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: going as Halloween for Halloween this year? Uh?

1729
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm going as a boxing journalist covering the uh Leo

1730
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz Jervonte Tank Davis fight while I also watch

1731
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva's finale.

1732
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: You uh, probably Chewbacca.

1733
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: While you're covering those same fights. Well yeah, well well

1734
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: you can go out early with the daughter.

1735
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so no Halloween is Halloween's canceled here, don't

1736
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: about your poot, all right?

1737
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, well my kids are also at that. They're twelve,

1738
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: so they're at that age right where like they're like

1739
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: the border.

1740
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: Like I went out.

1741
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 1: The last time I went out was when I was fourteen,

1742
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: freshman in high school, and like every single house they

1743
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: were like they were like, why are you here? What

1744
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: are you doing?

1745
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: You know last year I was I was eleven, My

1746
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: last year you went out into high school.

1747
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: The kids I knew were still going out through high school.

1748
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no kids your age were going out

1749
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: either to parties.

1750
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 1: They were going out, they were going out trig or treating.

1751
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: No, no, they were no, No, they were back snatching

1752
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: is what they were doing. They were back No.

1753
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: I come from a factory town. We did things differently there.

1754
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: But that's the ship of the week. Hope you saw

1755
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: I Hope you saw it.

1756
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: I certainly did a great job as always. Obviously time

1757
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: for odds and ends. What do you got for us

1758
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: on your odds and ends?

1759
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? On the undercart of Lomachenko Lopez, we talked big

1760
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: about this guy, Edgar Berlanga, the unbeaten super middleweight who

1761
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 1: was fourteen and oh with fourteen first round Ko's coming in.

1762
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: He fought you know what journeyim in but a tough

1763
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: guy in Linel Bellows. And even though I hated the

1764
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: stoppage to a large degree being too quick, he did

1765
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,919
Speaker 1: improve to fifteen and oh with fifteen first round KOs.

1766
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: I know when that happens people will go against too.

1767
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: Who'd you fight? Well, look, not many guys fight people

1768
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: with pulses on the way up through fifteen pro fights

1769
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: and boxing. But I'll say this, Luke, the power's real.

1770
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: The kid is like what twenty two. He's from New York,

1771
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: born and bred Puerto Rican. Look, that's a great boxing

1772
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 1: fan base. As we saw they made, you know, they

1773
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: backed guys like Tito Trinidad, Hector Camacho. I mean, you

1774
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: know Codo. We thought what's his name was gonna be

1775
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: the next big star, but he hasn't panned out yet

1776
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: for top rank. But this kid looks absolutely legit so far. Obviously,

1777
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: you're never gonna know if he's gonna gas out in

1778
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 1: round three until he gets there. But he's big, he's strong,

1779
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: he can talk on the mic, he said afterwards in

1780
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: the interview. I looked in his eyes, he looked like

1781
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: he wanted to go, so I sent him there. I mean,

1782
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: this has become a musty TV. I love this guy

1783
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 1: and you know who it does too. Aaron Bronstetter, Canadian

1784
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: mma journalists, a great man, by the way, loves us,

1785
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: loves the show. One of my favorite Canucks. He said

1786
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: he tuned into this fight because of us. Luke, so

1787
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: shout out to that, all right?

1788
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 2: Did he say that I missed that? Really?

1789
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? He tweeted it out. He DM me looking for

1790
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: what time the fight was gonna be on. No, that's

1791
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: a wrong Canadian man, right there.

1792
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: God bless Aaron Bronstetter. Definitely one of the good ones,

1793
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: one of the smart ones as well, great coverage. Appreciate

1794
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: that from him. For my odds and ends, I'm gonna

1795
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: go back to the uh oh, by the way, just

1796
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 2: for the Burlanga fight. Dude, that stop it sucked? Agree

1797
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 2: with you? Did you see the eyeballs on his opponent

1798
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: before they stopped it? He was terrified after feeling Burlonga's power?

1799
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Dude, yes, yes, Well, well at least what we learned

1800
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: is that the power's real. I'm not saying the kids,

1801
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, but you know, you start doing stuff like this,

1802
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: this kind of streak that's Nasty's.

1803
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 2: Nasty, okay. And so for my odds and ends, two

1804
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: notes here, I'll make them both pretty quick. First things first,

1805
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: sad to see it, but you kind of knew him

1806
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,799
Speaker 2: might be coming. James Vick has been released from the UFC.

1807
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: He had lost I think four in a row up

1808
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 2: to this point, and his contract had expired and the

1809
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: UFC decided not to renew. Now, as we all know,

1810
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: you get enough wins out there on the regional scene,

1811
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: they might sign you back. So we'll see how it goes,

1812
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,560
Speaker 2: he said on Twitter. But I think Aaron Bronsteter was

1813
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: the first to report that, So I'll give him credit

1814
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 2: as well on that, But he had said on social

1815
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: media that you know, he's already talking to a bunch

1816
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 2: of other promotions and so we'll see what happens. I'm

1817
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: not ready to barry James Vick. I've had a lot

1818
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 2: of positive conversations with him. I think he's talented. Obviously

1819
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: he's got some things to work on in terms of

1820
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: his defense, but you know, let's see what he can do.

1821
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: Bro, you got to move that ahead. And I like him.

1822
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: He's a fun fighter. You know when he's winning, Luke,

1823
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: he's he's long and tall, he's fun. Yeah.

1824
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: And then last but not least, people keep talking about

1825
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: what the hell is going to be next for kamzat Chimayav.

1826
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: What are we going to give him? Who's he gonna fight? Now?

1827
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: We still we got the Dana seat on Saturday. You

1828
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: see that, You know that seat next to Dana that

1829
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: like Connor would get or young Anthony Pettis would get

1830
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: always like whoever's next sits right there? Yeah wow?

1831
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 2: Or Jake Shields when they're sticking it to strike force.

1832
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: Remember that I was that was a time in MMA.

1833
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: But in any case, we don't know exactly who was next,

1834
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: but one of the names that A signed up for

1835
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 2: it on social media and B Dana confirmed was one

1836
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: of the people they were thinking about or trying or

1837
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 2: seeing what they could do. Chris Widman. Now Chris Widman

1838
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 2: of course had what five losses in a row something

1839
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: like that, got back to a win against Omari Akamedov

1840
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: a little bit workman like, but he won nine twenty eight.

1841
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: I think across the board it was the better one.

1842
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: When you know, the final bell rang kind of SABC.

1843
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: You know, at first I was like, I don't know

1844
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: how I feel about this one, but now I kind

1845
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 2: of like it. Because if chamaiav can beat a guy

1846
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: like that who's big and strong and can wrestle, if

1847
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: he just knocks him out like he did Meershard, I

1848
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: don't know what that means. But if he wrestles with

1849
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: them a little bit and he can hang at that

1850
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: way class, I wonder what a it means for him

1851
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 2: down at one seventy and B for Widman to win,

1852
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 2: to stop his hype. It's actually a pretty redemptive win.

1853
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: I think I like this fight.

1854
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: I want to hate on it right away and be

1855
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: like Chris, stop signing yourself up to death. But no

1856
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: like especially you know, look, I liked some things that

1857
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: Widman showed in the acmetaf fight in terms of trying

1858
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: to mix in a little bit of a new style,

1859
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 1: trying not to take as much damage, and yeah, this

1860
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: is the right matchup to kind of try to stretch him,

1861
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: stretch the young kid there.

1862
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: I like.

1863
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: By the way, first of all, the thing you love

1864
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: most about JAMAIAV is just that he's so ballsy. He

1865
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: tweeted out, let me go old school, let me fight

1866
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: three guys in one night. I like that spirit, all right,

1867
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 1: I like that a lot.

1868
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't put this on odds and ends.

1869
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 2: I just wanted to reference it very quickly. If you

1870
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: looked at Lomachenko's so the whole motif was the matrix

1871
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: thing when he walked out, the music whatever else. But

1872
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: also he had the code falling on the screen as

1873
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 2: his shorts. Now, the reason I bring that up is

1874
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: because he has a sponsorship. They have a whole line.

1875
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: It's not just shorts, it's everything, gloves, shorts, track suits, whatever.

1876
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: The works for Lomachenko by Venom, who of course is

1877
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 2: going to be the new official apparel provider of the

1878
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 2: UFC starting in twenty twenty one. BC is what we

1879
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: saw with Loma there and maybe some other places as well.

1880
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Does it give you hope for maybe some cooler gear,

1881
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: things that can be tailored to someone's individual personality that

1882
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: fans can get behind that Reebok could not do.

1883
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so a little bit. I never

1884
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: hated the REBOC as much as people in terms of

1885
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: what it actually looked like. I just hated the spirit

1886
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: of the REBOC deal, how it took money away from people.

1887
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: But you know what, look, I gotta say one thing

1888
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: about what UFC has done, and maybe this sounds like

1889
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 1: corporate BC, I don't really care. When you see flashbacks

1890
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: to fights from the pre REBOC deal, it does look

1891
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: minor league and it's not just seeing condom depot or

1892
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: dynamic fasteners on someone's crotch. I like the uniformity of it.

1893
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I like uniforms all right. Like like when

1894
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: I watch NBA games today and I see the the

1895
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: sponsorship logo right here, I think it looks like trip

1896
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: A Baseball. Okay. I like the professional look of the

1897
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: UFC uniform.

1898
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: I don't care, do your kids. When the school is

1899
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Speaker 2: in session, do your kids wear uniforms?

1900
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Speaker 1: No, But when they play basketball for the travel town team,

1901
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Speaker 1: they wear the same uniform. Yeah, it's not a big deal. Luke. Okay,

1902
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: they don't wear they don't wear luke Stonut shop on

1903
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: the back by the way. My town, we've got a

1904
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: Luke Stone Shops. It's like an institution here. It's well known. Luke.

1905
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Speaker 1: I'd love if you could come here at one time.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, uniformity is cool when there's a purpose

1907
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 2: to it. But if the purpose is, you know, to

1908
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: do bad apparel that denies people money, I don't quite

1909
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Speaker 2: understand the value.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the denying the money part stinks. But outside of that,

1911
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Speaker 1: I also.

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Speaker 2: Said I also, in fact, not only did I also

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Speaker 2: say I led with bad apparel. It's not good apparel.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it might be good tactically, but it's not

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Speaker 2: visually pleasing.

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Speaker 1: All right. And when you were in the Marines, you

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Speaker 1: guys all wore the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Every day, right, But there's a there's a clear of

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Speaker 2: purpose to that from.

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Speaker 1: A wouldn't it confuse the enemy more? If you guys

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Speaker 1: were coming out and with your own sponsors all over

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Speaker 1: your tactical gear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you were fist fighting for money in

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Speaker 2: a way that was identical. You know, if war was

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Speaker 2: identical to prize fighting, I don't know that'd be the

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Speaker 2: same kind of issue. But alas it's quite different.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of war, Luke, what is it good for?

1928
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Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Say it again? Yeah, yeah, all right? H isn't that

1930
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Speaker 1: what you what your Marines say? Woo ha, got you

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Speaker 1: all in check?

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Speaker 2: That's what that bus that is busted rhymes? I believe Brooklyn,

1933
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Speaker 2: not the Marines. All right, But that being said, BC,

1934
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 2: we gotta let folks know there's a lot they can

1935
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: get to do to get in touch with us. We

1936
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Speaker 2: have a bunch of social channels. We are on let's see,

1937
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: we're on Insta, We're on Twitter, or of course on YouTube.

1938
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Speaker 2: Thumbs up on the video, hit that, subscribe, and if

1939
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 2: you want to give us a follow in any of

1940
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 2: these wonderful places, certainly you may do that. Also, we

1941
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: have an email address. What do we get wrong today?

1942
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: What are we going to get wrong on Wednesday or

1943
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 2: any other place? Shoot us an email Morning Combat at

1944
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: gmail dot com. What are we gonna say?

1945
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: Time out here? Friday is our next homework? Assignment, our

1946
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Speaker 1: next art project.

1947
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Speaker 2: Not done yet.

1948
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Speaker 1: I'm not done yet, all right, Okay, well then please

1949
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: follow us, support us, and check out that Justin Gatchee

1950
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: interview that Luke and I had on Thursday if you

1951
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: haven't yet set in the stage for two fifty four,

1952
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: and obviously if you watch this show and you said

1953
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: where's the damn hobib preview, We'll be back Wednesday and Friday.

1954
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: We also got a lot of bonus content coming this

1955
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Speaker 1: week as well. This is the new This is the

1956
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: new new for MK all day, almost every day, So

1957
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Luke, Sorry to steal your thunder.

1958
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So for a Friday's homework, it's my choice to

1959
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 2: pick it this week, and I'm going to go with

1960
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: a comedy special. We had referenced it, I think either

1961
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 2: last week or two weeks ago Patresea O'Neil Elephant in

1962
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 2: the Room. This was the last televised special that he

1963
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: did prior to his death. I would argue it's not

1964
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: necessarily his best special, although it's certainly up there, but

1965
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 2: it is something that I feel like is no one

1966
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: had the original perspective that he had. His death I

1967
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 2: think has been a dramatic hit to modern comedy. I

1968
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 2: could only imagine the things he'd be saying if he

1969
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 2: were around today. You don't see a lot of people

1970
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 2: in this world who have both original ideas and be

1971
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 2: a willingness to espouse them even when they're ridiculous, and

1972
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,919
Speaker 2: then see can make them all funny. And that's Patrisea

1973
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Speaker 2: O'Neil and elephant in the room. We will talk about

1974
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Speaker 2: it on YouTube. Yes it is. It is on you.

1975
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Speaker 2: I think it's for free on YouTube, but you can

1976
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Speaker 2: rent it as well.

1977
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a comedy special since you'd be surprised,

1978
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Speaker 1: so I'm ready to check this out.

1979
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Speaker 2: You don't watch comedy specials on Netflix, you know.

1980
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 1: I try because I it's not like I don't love comedy,

1981
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, I try. But Luke, it speaks to I'll

1982
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: put comedy specials right now in the same thing I'll

1983
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: put pro sports. I want to try to watch this,

1984
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: and I start watching it, but we have too many

1985
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: options up on YouTube watching the ninety three NBA playoffs

1986
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Speaker 1: over again. I'm sorry, Luke. All Right, I like what

1987
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: I like, and that's the way it is. That's a

1988
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: great Genesis song, by the way, Luke, Genesis is so

1989
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: good in my ear holes all day yesterday, so good.

1990
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Speaker 1: People try to call me casual because I like the

1991
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: Phil Collins era of Genesis. I'm gonna try to tell

1992
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 1: you that Van Hagar is better than Van Halen. I'm

1993
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 1: just saying I like that era. All right, get off

1994
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Speaker 1: my balls, Jen, you know, all right?

1995
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Speaker 2: Thanks? Thanks? All right, there you go. So let's see

1996
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Speaker 2: if you would like to try Showtime. You certainly can

1997
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 2: showtime dot com right now, thirty day free trial. If

1998
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 2: you like it, you can keep it. If not, no harm,

1999
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 2: no foul, you can go be a loser somewhere else.

2000
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 2: And if you want some of this great MK merch

2001
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 2: store dot show dot com right now, it's out there,

2002
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 2: by the way, j or somebody, maybe it was Gaff

2003
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 2: was asking me before the show, Luke, if someone sends

2004
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 2: a picture of themselves wearing MK merch, will you unblock them? Yes?

2005
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 2: I will, I will, I.

2006
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Speaker 1: Will, now that I will use a development right there.

2007
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping Dana sends you something. Then, by the way,

2008
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Speaker 1: do you think me Dana's a masculine mail Luke? As

2009
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: we know, and shout out to him for winning the quarantine,

2010
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 1: But do you remember that episode of Dana White looking

2011
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: for a fight where he wouldn't jump off the cliff,

2012
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 1: and Rachel Astovich is doing backfoots off and Dana bitched

2013
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: out and they stood there for hours. Do you want

2014
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: to say anything about that? Yeah?

2015
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Speaker 2: I didn't quite understand. Does he have a fear of

2016
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 2: heights or some shit? What is that?

2017
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Speaker 1: I think he just got to a point where he's

2018
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: so rich. Now he's like, I'm not that from around here.

2019
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Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, I'm not.

2020
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 2: And also it's like it's like, it's like, what are

2021
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 2: you watching in this video? Man does nothing at edge

2022
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: of cliff. It's like, yeah, yeah, that's scintillating content. Okay

2023
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 2: for somebody, I suppose.

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Speaker 1: Please go find us the next stage north cute, thank.

2025
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Speaker 2: You, Yes, just do that all right? So coming your

2026
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 2: way Wednesday show Fingers Crossed, Knock on Wood should be live.

2027
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 2: No guarantees, but I think we'll be fine by then.

2028
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have dissected coming out plenty more content. Folks

2029
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 2: asking what about UC two fifty four preview, as BC indicated,

2030
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Speaker 2: we got plenty oh content. I'm in your way for

2031
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: UFC two fifty four. Want to just make sure we

2032
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 2: wrapped up the weekend before we lean into the next

2033
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 2: weekend as big as it may be, so be on

2034
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Speaker 2: the lookout for that, all right, for Malka for showtime

2035
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Speaker 2: for Brian Campbell and CBS Sports. I'm Luke Thomas. Until

2036
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Speaker 2: next time, May all of your gains be loyal.