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Speaker 2: Parrison dies for the up zone. He's in touchdow Hound.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team. Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 2: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride. Oh that was nasty right there, right slam

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Speaker 2: the ground by Budda Baker Like a torpedo. He came

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Speaker 2: flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: You know. I only wish that I could open this

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Speaker 2: edition of Cardinals Underground, presented by Pacific Office Automation like

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Speaker 2: a recent article. It was Fortune no longer a Fortune magazine. Fortune.

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Speaker 2: You ready for the opening line. Danny's leaning forward, She's

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Speaker 2: gathering herself. Darren Urban loves an opening line to any article.

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Speaker 2: If anyone has an appreciation for an opening line. It's

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Speaker 2: got to be Darren Urber.

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Speaker 4: We call that a lead in the business thank you,

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Speaker 4: which is.

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Speaker 3: Being buried right now. But carry on, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that took approximately thirty two seconds, and I just

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Speaker 2: took a double barrel beat down. Saving for retirement is

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Speaker 2: pointless thanks to the impending quote supersonic tsunami of AI

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Speaker 2: and robotics, which will bring about a world of zero scarcity.

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Speaker 2: What that's according to one very famous tech ceo, but

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Speaker 2: a number of tech CEOs, not only the tech ceo

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Speaker 2: who recently negotiated himself a trillia dollar pay package, and

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Speaker 2: now it's saying that future retirement savings are worthless. Don't

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Speaker 2: even bother squirreling away money for retirement because why ten

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Speaker 2: or twenty years? It won't matter, they say.

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Speaker 4: Because everybody will have access to what they need.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, and I tried to drill deeper for exactly how

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Speaker 2: they've come to this conclusion, because this goes all the

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Speaker 2: way back to August of last year. There was an

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Speaker 2: headline AI experts no longer saving for retirement and now

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Speaker 2: this is even more dire. This particular expert was quoted

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Speaker 2: as saying I just don't expect the world to be around.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's that's something I can get behind.

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Speaker 2: But yes, they say by twenty thirty and they these

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Speaker 2: tech CEOs, AI will surpass quote the intelligence of all

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Speaker 2: humans combined, so skynet and and then they're also saying

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Speaker 2: there will be more humanoid robots on Earth than human beings.

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Speaker 3: Really scares me. Why are you trying to stress staring

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Speaker 3: out at the start of the podcast, Paul, That's true.

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Speaker 2: AI is a four level word for the end for

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Speaker 2: Darren Urban.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious, like the first one. So are they basically

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Speaker 4: saying just give up now?

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Speaker 2: Is that? What they're saying in a way, the way

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Speaker 2: I translated, is there will be so much abundance of

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Speaker 2: everything it'll almost it.

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Speaker 4: Has AI grown lettuce, like how is AI producing milk? Like?

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Speaker 4: What am I missing something?

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Speaker 3: These are the important questions we ask on Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna find you will get an AI generated podcast

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Speaker 2: at some point, and problems from us some point soon

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Speaker 2: we'll see generated coach. There you go, that's the segue generated.

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Speaker 3: Paul's picks that one week.

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Speaker 4: Okay, right, it is too bad we are video list

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Speaker 4: this week because man.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, fire, it's amazing when there's no video accountability,

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Speaker 2: how everyone just shoots from the hip. That is amazing.

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Speaker 2: When your face isn't on it right then all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, Oh amazing, how much more emboldened you really are?

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Speaker 4: So, by the way, most some of this coffee's falling

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Speaker 4: asleep on the other side of the glass already.

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Speaker 2: Darren's lamenting that he went in for makeup, and there's

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Speaker 2: no cameras this week, So it's tough, all right, you podcast.

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Speaker 2: So far coaching search, there are two kinds of coaches.

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Speaker 2: There are those with head coaching experience in the NFL

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Speaker 2: and those who would be first timers. And based on

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Speaker 2: in recent NFL history. Ted had ten head coaching openings.

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Speaker 2: Four have been filled. John harbaughd to the Giants, Kevin

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Speaker 2: was going to be the asy Robert Sala for an

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Speaker 2: Big picture takeaways thoughts?

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Speaker 4: I mean, at this point, it's hard to you look

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Speaker 4: we all know, the last time we went through this situation,

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Speaker 4: all the way to the super Bowl. So that's a

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Speaker 4: waiting pattern. And while there have been four of the

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Speaker 4: so there's still significant move and not only that, but

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Speaker 4: a couple of them have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: It's true Baltimore is still open, Buffalo is now open.

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Speaker 2: As for coaches still in the playoffs, meaning break that down, Darren,

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Speaker 2: still in the playoffs this week. For example, Chris Shula

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Speaker 4: And not only are they cannot they can't be interviewed,

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Speaker 4: which again, logically this is going to follow, but they're

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Speaker 4: certainly not going to get hired at this point. So

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Speaker 4: even if you managed to have the nicest first interview

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Speaker 4: gotta happen, it's not like it can happen until their

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Speaker 2: Okay, So just that scenario right there, let's just say

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Speaker 2: dot dot dot Vance Joseph, who's already very familiar with

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Speaker 4: Well, you're not going to announce it with a guy

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Speaker 4: who's still working. I mean, we don't want Bill Frieder

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Speaker 4: situation here, do we, Paul.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 4: That was a way back, cause that I know that

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Speaker 4: Danny has no idea what I'm talking about. But no,

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Speaker 4: you're I mean, we we don't need a repeat of

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Speaker 3: That's where you were going.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, man.

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Speaker 2: It's good. See Darrence, Terrence think sometimes sentences, it's good. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, the latest on the list. Joe Brady the

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Speaker 2: now to me, Joe Brady's coordinator for Buffalo. To me,

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Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase. I mean, it's kind of hard

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Speaker 4: to mess that up, okay, but yes, but he has

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Speaker 4: been working with Josh Allen, and quite frankly, the Bills

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Speaker 4: who's their tight end? I don't even remember who they're

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Speaker 4: tighten in these days, but I mean, and again I

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Speaker 4: know that's when Josh Allen is pulling the level. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think it is. But I mean, they did some

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Speaker 4: nice things considering they didn't have a whole lot of personnel.

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Speaker 4: In fact, there's people that think that he might have

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott is out.

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Speaker 2: You have a story up on Asycardinals dot com on

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior. I do did you include in there

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Speaker 2: the hot take that maybe, just maybe if I was

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Speaker 2: the Bills. I would make a call to the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: and check on the availability and Marvin Harrison Junior, did

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Speaker 2: you throw that hot take in that I did not?

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Speaker 4: Shockingly Paul just out there?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'd throw it out there is a bonus hot

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Speaker 2: take here on Cardinals Undergraund.

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Speaker 4: I will be flummixed, flabbergasted, great googly mooglied if Marvin

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Speaker 4: Harrison Junior is not on this roster next.

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Speaker 2: Year, because I do like the speculation that those covering

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Speaker 2: the Bills on a daily basis went back and sort

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Speaker 2: of tracked a lot of the side comments slash side

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Speaker 2: swipes from Sean McDermott, that the roster was devoid of

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Speaker 2: just maybe there was a little bit of a rift

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Speaker 2: between the GM, who got himself a nice promotion to

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Speaker 4: The reality of this league will always be if the

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Speaker 4: been at one point, the GM and the coach, no

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Speaker 4: matter what team it is, the coach is gonna say

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Speaker 4: I probably don't have enough players, and the GM's gonna say,

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Speaker 4: you have the good players, you're not coaching them upright.

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Speaker 2: And then you have John Harbaugh, who seemingly was smart

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Speaker 2: I'd like to report directly to ownership.

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Speaker 3: I did not see that online. Has any coach ever

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's not I'm sure Sean Payton reports directly

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Speaker 2: In terms of the coaches left with head coaching experience,

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Speaker 2: Raheem Morris, Matt Naggi with that first glorious year with

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Speaker 2: Smith three years in Atlanta. Let me just comment on

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith real quick, because the Cardinals played Atlanta two

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Speaker 2: He had some of the worst quarterbacking that you've seen

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Speaker 2: back to those teams those years, they were dead last

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Speaker 2: But to me, I know Arthur Smith hasn't generated a

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Speaker 2: cram it vertical. I mean, he would seemingly be that guy.

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Speaker 2: And especially in a hard nosed division. If you think

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Speaker 2: getting back to me in a top five run team,

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Speaker 2: I would say Arthur Smith merits a little more consideration.

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Speaker 4: See here's the thing I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: rule out Arthur Smith again. When you talk about failures

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Speaker 4: as head coaches, it usually goes back to the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: All I've hear all I hear from fans talking about

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Speaker 4: feel about Vance Joseph. Vance Joseph's quarterbacks is two years

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Speaker 2: Were let him go, let her go, let her rep.

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Speaker 4: It'll be this week is interesting to me because you've

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Speaker 3: That adds more intrigue of the only team hiring a

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Speaker 2: Do you guys see any benefit into hiring from an

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Speaker 3: If all things are equal, I'm in the same boat

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Speaker 4: It's always interesting to me when people talk about getting

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Speaker 2: But they did have four losing seasons.

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Speaker 4: And again, like what does that mean? And also, and

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Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, the Patriots are playing fantastic football.

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Speaker 2: Does coaching matter? Absolutely? I mean, even my sister in law,

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Speaker 4: So you know you were a national championship right.

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Speaker 3: Can't spell Calvis without AI.

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Speaker 2: Former Sean Payton assistant coaches who have become head coaches,

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Speaker 2: How much a difference could or should that make? I

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Speaker 2: what about Sean Payton? And what do you think maybe

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Speaker 4: He learned from his first go around as being a

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Speaker 2: I I just throw it out there. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying Cliff Kingsbury's the future Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: Vance Joseph wasn't the head coach in Arizona. So you're

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're getting the next rock star head coach,

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Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong. Vance Joseph did not call

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Speaker 2: Have we seen Carson Palmer's name anywhere, by the way,

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Speaker 4: By the way, Kurt Warner, you want Kurt Warner, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Two other lists we will update later. The powerpole of

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Speaker 2: how about we get cultured with Danny right now, though

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Speaker 2: here we go.

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Speaker 4: As long as I'm not on that list.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Danny will segue.

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Speaker 3: To you getting cultured with Danny. It is not just

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Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I am on social media and consume more pop culture

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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled, but go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Let go.

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Speaker 3: Green Day is coming to the NFL, the punk rock

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Speaker 4: Boulevard have broken. I'm I'm trying to picture what legends

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they will have microphones in hands,

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Speaker 3: Hey you tell us. So the college football Playoff Championship

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Speaker 2: But you have your folks been accused of jumping the bandwagon. No, no,

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Speaker 4: Gotcha.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so like, but Belichick and Brady are not spending

438
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Speaker 4: a lot of time together anymore. So therefore, Jeorge Hudson says,

439
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Speaker 4: it has to be an alternate timeline. Possibly, Oh she's young,

440
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Speaker 4: she could still make it work.

441
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Speaker 2: How does one obtain an alternate timeline? And do you

442
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Speaker 2: have to be a status to.

443
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Speaker 4: Go to doctor Stephen Strange? And then, well, this is not.

444
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Speaker 3: An alternate timeline. But we will go back in time

445
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Speaker 3: quite a bit. Last week twenty sixteen recirc you related

446
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: on social media and you know why. This is exactly

447
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: what this segment was created for.

448
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 4: Culture of the two Vs tweeted.

449
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's not that deep though people are trying to

450
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Speaker 3: look too into it. The point is it goes back

451
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Speaker 3: ten years after the start obviously of the twenty twenty

452
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Speaker 3: six years starting. And as someone who was in the

453
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Speaker 3: time of my life where twenty sixteen was just peak,

454
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Speaker 3: it was so great as someone who and I say

455
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Speaker 3: that because when you're in college or shortly out of

456
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: college and you still have that freedom. The music was fantastic.

457
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: We got incredible albums from Drake, Rihanna, Justin Bieber Chance,

458
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: the rapper Closer by Chainsmokers. Things that now feel cringe

459
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: or cringey to do or post online were not because

460
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: it was authentic in being who you are and social media.

461
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Speaker 3: Then I personally, I think this is a large part

462
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Speaker 3: is why people look back in twenty sixteen with such

463
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Speaker 3: reminiscence and and wanting something to feel that same ways

464
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 3: because social media connected us, but it didn't define us.

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Speaker 1: I want a time.

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Speaker 4: I would like to say for the record, though, this

467
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: is such a young person way to look at twenty sixteen, because.

468
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Speaker 3: If you're not in that age, you don't connect.

469
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Speaker 4: When we look back on stuff, you guys all like

470
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Speaker 4: side eye us because we're so old and we look back.

471
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: But guess what, now you're old enough to feel nostalgic about.

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Speaker 3: So that's a twenty Going back and posting about twenty

473
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Speaker 3: sixteen last week was not really anything deep. I think

474
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Speaker 3: someone kind of started doing it and brands took hold

475
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Speaker 3: of what was a trend because that's what you do nowadays.

476
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Speaker 4: Because for being Paul, twenty sixteen is almost like yesterday.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you were in middle school or you

478
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Speaker 3: know it, you know, no offense like older, right, it

479
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: really was probably just another year you really did have

480
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: to be kind of in this certain age range of

481
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Speaker 3: like how you were connected. I mean, Uber wasn't even

482
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Speaker 3: really around. It was what in San Francisco, And that

483
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Speaker 3: was kind of it even at the time about them

484
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Speaker 3: in culture, You're welcome.

485
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Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen reminds me of stocks I should have bought

486
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: like Uber, That's that's true. Yeah, But the eighteen.

487
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Speaker 4: Twenty sixteen reminds me of Brandon Williams getting burned deep

488
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: and then Joelle's went all downhill from.

489
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Speaker 2: There, running back, playing cornerback around, cornerback. Yeah, I mean

490
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Speaker 2: the eighteen to thirty four demo reminiscing, you know, going

491
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Speaker 2: in the cold tub time Machine. Okay, all right, I

492
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: mean I guess so it's sort of a maiden voyage.

493
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Speaker 2: It's good, it's good, all right. I agree.

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Speaker 4: Quarter sixteen was that year that the if we want

495
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Speaker 4: to talk about expectations and what we just went through

496
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Speaker 4: with the Cardinals, I mean, talk about a year with

497
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Speaker 4: expectations that was a year that Sports Illustrated picked the

498
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Speaker 4: Cardinals Twins Super Bowl before the season.

499
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Speaker 2: Yep, that's when al Michael's was our biggest fan, right,

500
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: Cardinal's biggest fan. He loved doing primetime games of the Cardinals,

501
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: and he loved hanging out with Wolf in the booth.

502
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: So let's go back to two thousand and two, otherwise

503
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Speaker 2: known as the last year where every single postseason NFL

504
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: game was played in an outdoor stadium. Really, and that's

505
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 2: the case this year. Wow, that single.

506
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Speaker 4: He just kind of cultured me a little bit.

507
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: Playoff game will be in an outdoor stadium. Wow, Which

508
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 2: sort of leads me to my annual ran about these

509
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: extreme cold weather games. I just like to restate for

510
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: the record, beyond the fact that these cold weather arctic games,

511
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Speaker 2: you know, stink awesome, I just don't like it. I

512
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: don't like the brand of football because it goes beyond football.

513
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Speaker 2: It's not a game of football. It's a game of survivor, right.

514
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're deciding the best football team, or are

515
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: we deciding the best seal team? Six of football players?

516
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Speaker 3: I would argue that's part of it, that's part of

517
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Speaker 3: being a good team is having that adversity and being

518
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Speaker 3: able to still create plays and find success. Now, I

519
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: say that as someone who was watching some of the

520
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Speaker 3: games this weekend and literally said out loud to people

521
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Speaker 3: I was watching the games with, I'm really glad that

522
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: we play in Arizona and we have a roof. So

523
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: it's very different when you are in person on the

524
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Speaker 3: sideline consistently at those.

525
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Speaker 4: Games, which is why Paul is like.

526
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Speaker 3: Nostalgic, not not like an old timey sense nostalgic. But

527
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Speaker 3: I do think that that is still good football to watch.

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Speaker 2: I used to have that opinion, and then I realized,

529
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Speaker 2: you know what, the best football team doesn't always advance

530
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Speaker 2: because of the climate.

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Speaker 1: And I get it.

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Speaker 2: You have to earn the home field advantage. I get

533
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Speaker 2: it's all part of the process. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 2: I don't enjoy when the NFL partners with the Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask let me ask you this question. So

536
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Speaker 4: there were two snow games, right, there was the Patriots,

537
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: New England, Texans and then there was the Bears. Yep,

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Speaker 4: what parts of those games do you think were impacted

539
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: that greatly on the weather?

540
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Speaker 2: Well, there were about five times as many fumbles as

541
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Speaker 2: there probably would have been if it would have been

542
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Speaker 2: in a seventy degree climate controlled stadium. They kept dropping

543
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: the football because it's hard as a rock. That that's

544
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: one thing. I just think. There's when the Rams go

545
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Speaker 2: from practicing in eighty two degrees at their Woodland Hills

546
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Speaker 2: complex and they won, Paul, and then it's zero. I

547
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Speaker 2: just we won the game, which just increases the respect

548
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: for the victory. Uh, I just I guess I looked

549
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: up here just now. Uh which division of the military

550
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Speaker 2: has trained for cold weather? Have you guys ever heard

551
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: of the Arctic Angels? The Army's premiere ARCT banned an

552
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 2: Arctic focused division executing operations in extreme cold.

553
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Speaker 4: Here's here's what Paul wants. Paul wants an NFL. We're

554
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: going to go back. He's gonna have all the AI

555
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: robots guys in for one of these Arctic game, take

556
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: all the players out of it, and they and the

557
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Speaker 4: rafts because they're human and they f up everything too.

558
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Speaker 3: So I guess my my question is, and every sport

559
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: is obviously different, So are you opposed to our conversation

560
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 3: from last week where all these ballparks get to decide

561
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: their own dimensions, because that's the same of having a

562
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: home you'll advantage to a certain extent. Right, baseball doesn't

563
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: rain delays Colorado.

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00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 4: Colorado have a dome then, because they sometimes have to

565
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Speaker 4: play snow games early in the season, or Detroit or Chicago.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I like the fact the National's new

567
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: stadium is going to have a roof and the Washington

568
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: News Stadium is going to have a roof. So because

569
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Speaker 2: there's only two kinds of stadiums, either you have a

570
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Speaker 2: roof or you don't. That's I'm just gonna leave it.

571
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Speaker 4: You didn't answer the baseball question, Paul.

572
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: Oh not talking baseball, by the way, speaking to the officiating,

573
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Speaker 2: is this a good segue into the power pole of

574
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: incompetence always? Because yet again Carl Cheffer's found a way

575
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: to make him make it about him and get into

576
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: the headlines, did he not so? Mister nineteen flag game,

577
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: mister seventeen flag game? And then the controversial overtime PI.

578
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: Here's the problem with the PI. Are we talking about

579
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: the second one where White chucked this thing? We're talking

580
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: about the first multiple choice go ahead because the first

581
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: one ended up being a moot point because they were

582
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: going to get flagged for roughing the passer anyways, and

583
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 4: it was only a seventeen yard penalty, So in the end,

584
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 4: the bronco has only got an extra two yards out

585
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Speaker 4: of that penalty, So even if they don't call the PI,

586
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: it had no impact on the game.

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Speaker 2: Here's my other powerpoll of incompetence. I'm just gonna advance

588
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: past this because I don't want to get too bogged

589
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: down in this. How did NBC miss the handshake between

590
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Sean McVay and Ben Johnson.

591
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

592
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, were you guys like me? I literally hit rewind.

593
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Speaker 2: Wait did I miss it? Where's the handshake? Where's the handshake?

594
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like looking for it and it's not there.

595
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: No, I did not rewind.

596
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Speaker 2: And then the last one the Bills, Darren, he gave

597
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: us a little lesson in pr Earlier, the Bills put

598
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: out a statement and ownership this is attributed ownership. In

599
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Speaker 2: the very first sentence of a controversial head coach firing,

600
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Speaker 2: they regrettably used the word admiral instead of admirable. So

601
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Speaker 2: admiral is in the navy and instead of admirable, I'm

602
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: just going to.

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00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: Say in the work that we do.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm not going all that in the comments

605
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Speaker 3: did not disappoint.

606
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: I gotta go back and read the comments.

607
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Speaker 3: I mean, it was the fifth word of the statement.

608
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: How many times do you proofread the statement? How many

609
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: people do you have proofread a statement before you put

610
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: that sort of statement out for public consumption? And that

611
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: happens you get.

612
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: When you use aiball.

613
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. It might have been an AI statement.

614
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: What about this other list of people you hate or whatever.

615
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: It was what we decide on for a name?

616
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: Wow, or people you never want to talk to again?

617
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: Or yeah, what was it exactly here?

618
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: People you want to go away?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Sports figures I'm so done with. Okay, And last

620
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: week we add it was kind of captain obvious, Lane Kiffin,

621
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Clark, Carl Cheffer's made this list as well. Lindsey Vaughan. Yeah,

622
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: you mentioned please please? I mean every four years is

623
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: still too much. I mean she's in her forties right now.

624
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: What about THEOVA?

625
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: Wait?

626
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: How do you feel about theovon?

627
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: And then on the watch list, due do we have?

628
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: We had? We had Ben Johnson, He's calmed down a

629
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: little bit. Uh, Sam Levitt and then Pookinakoa just because

630
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: he's getting you know, he's getting a little too haughty. Uh.

631
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: But this week as for a sports figure that I'm

632
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: so done with, it's more of a generic framing here.

633
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: Any player in any sport who decides to crash the

634
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: postgame interview of a teammate. If you were the player

635
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: of the game, the desired interviewee of the game, you

636
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: would be the one standing with the sideline reporter. You

637
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: would be the one on camera. So stop photo bombing

638
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: your teammate when you're not player of the game because

639
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: it looks it makes it look like you. It's petty,

640
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: here's and it's small.

641
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: Here's how I feel about that topic. On a national telecast,

642
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: get the hell out of there. But I kind of

643
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: like on these like the Thunder we're doing it last year.

644
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: The Suns do it a lot now where there it's

645
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: the the everyday local broadcasts that you see with a

646
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: basketball team or whatever, and they either drive by or

647
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 4: they're hanging out in the back. I don't mind it

648
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: on the local because it's the local, Like how many

649
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: times you need to see a.

650
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Speaker 2: Post game baseball they like to dump like the bucket

651
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: a bazooka gum on them, or I will say.

652
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 4: That that has kind of run its course for me,

653
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: jump the shark for you there.

654
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with the local versus national and local.

655
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: And I've had some players do that kind of running

656
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: off and it's fine, right, it's quick and fun. But

657
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: if you're talking about, Paul, someone who is not being interviewed,

658
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: and they come in the shot and they stay there

659
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: and they're yelling and you can tell it goes on,

660
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: I do feel for the reporter who's just trying to

661
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: do their job. And like you understand too, Paul, there's

662
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: not a lot of time by the time you get

663
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: whoever you're interviewing. The broadcast ends very quickly after the game,

664
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Speaker 3: so you're pretty pressed for time of getting whoever you're

665
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: going to interview, get the interview done, and sending it

666
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: back up to the booth for them to end the show.

667
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: And so and you've got someone who's taken up. Oh

668
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: it's just four or five six seconds.

669
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Speaker 2: Yep.

670
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: Those seconds matter.

671
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: My new favorite thing to do after a really big

672
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: game because usually the camera's on either the start of

673
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: the game or the coach is when the crowd like

674
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: spills out on the field and everybody runs to the middle,

675
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: like last night at the National Championship game for football

676
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: watching the PR person trying to get the coach and

677
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: or player and try and get maneuver them through to

678
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: get to the national TV interview before the whole thing

679
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: gets swallowed up. That's that's a constant source of enjoyment

680
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: for me. I would never have to do that.

681
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: What was the who was the guy went viral about

682
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: Tim I think it was twenty sixteen. Actually Danny was

683
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: the Washington Commander's PR person who screamed out, no is no.

684
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: Remember they were trying to interview whatever quarterback was, so

685
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 2: all right? Drew petsing to the Lions did not see

686
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: that one coming. I did not either. That was an

687
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: interesting development. That seemed to be a coveted position. There

688
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: were a number of different candidates, and the Lions had

689
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: no problem announcing along the way who they were interviewing.

690
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: For the OC and Cardinals' former offensive coordinator, Drew Petsy

691
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: in the past three years is now the Lions offensive coordinator.

692
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 4: It was interesting to me when there was a report

693
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: I think it was by Jeff Darlington, who covers the

694
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: Dolphins really closely. Among other teams, saying that the Lions

695
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 4: didn't see Mike McDaniel, who they had interviewed as the OC,

696
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: as a fit there. And so this was I guess

697
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: less of a McDaniel not wanting to be the OC

698
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: in Detroit and more about the Lions didn't see that

699
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: as a fit.

700
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Speaker 2: And you know what, at first glance, that makes total

701
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: sense to me, because what was Mike McDaniel about when

702
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: the Cardinals went to Miami last year? The quick passing game? Right,

703
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: it was all about that quick passing game. Well, that's

704
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: not what Detroit wants to do. They have arguably the

705
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: best O line in the league went healthy, they have

706
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: two great running backs. I mean, they want to cram

707
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: it vertical. So when you think about it, there's a

708
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: lot on Drew Petsing's resume that I'm guessing was really

709
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: attractive to Dan Campbell.

710
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: I do think that he fits well with what he

711
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: does offensively, with who they.

712
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: Have heavy personnel, they use a lot.

713
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Speaker 4: Of time what I was going to add, So, I mean,

714
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. I know, I know Cardinal fan

715
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 4: base feels very strongly on the subject, because I heard

716
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: from all of them on social media, but we'll see

717
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: what happens.

718
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: I mean, And here's the thing once again, it comes

719
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: back to So it's not unlike the head coaching search,

720
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: you ultimately don't know. You get Drew Petsing with a

721
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: top three offensive line, arguably the best pair of running

722
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: backs in the league, with dynamic receivers I'm on Ross

723
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: Saint Brown and Jamison Williams, a top notch tight end

724
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: in Sam Laporta. I mean, compared to what his personnel

725
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: look like the second half of this year with all

726
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: the injuries. It's night and.

727
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: Day paired with a an accurate pocket passing quarterback and

728
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: Jared Goff. I think objectively, it does seem like a

729
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: good fit for what Petsing was able to find success

730
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: with during his time here and what Detroit's personnel looks like.

731
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: I mean this offensively, and not just in the run game,

732
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: but offensively as a whole. Like it was stuff yer

733
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: for the Cardinals to really find rhythm and create success

734
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: and put points on the board and keep themselves in games.

735
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 3: Last year the run game looked really good. So it's

736
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: not like there was never a successful time offensively with

737
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: Petsing as coordinator here. I do think it could be

738
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: a good fit in Detroit.

739
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: So so what do we former Cardinals assistance from this

740
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: last staff deebo Winston d Lattibau Dair went to where.

741
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 3: Michigan's Michigan State the d line coach and then and.

742
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: Then Patrick Tony ended up in the college game as well.

743
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: Bobe's Olmoss defensive coordinator.

744
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: That's it, Okay, all right, we'll see and Jonathan Gannon

745
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: has interviewed for both head coaching gigs and defensive coordinator spots.

746
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: So Marvin Harrison Junior back to that. Enough of the

747
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: snark from yours truly and the stupid hot takes, Darren,

748
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: give us the gist of what folks will find Asycardinals

749
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Speaker 2: dot com.

750
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I would never say you have

751
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: hot takes, Paul. They're just your opinions and you choose

752
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: to put them out there.

753
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: Good.

754
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: I would say, just put a little thing together. You know.

755
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: Marvin talked at the end of the year about how

756
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: trying the season was for him and that when somebody

757
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: asked him kind of how to grade his year, he

758
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 4: just said it was incomplete. And I think in a

759
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: lot of ways that was true, because I think it

760
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: feels like right when he was starting to figure some

761
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: things out, that's when the appendicities hit, and then he

762
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: just never was healthy after that. And he also made

763
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 4: mention to the fact that like he did like nothing

764
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: after the appendicitis and lost like ten pounds, which was

765
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: he gained eleven of muscle, so he lost ten by

766
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: doing nothing thing. And then when he came back, he

767
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: had done nothing for two weeks and then you practice

768
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: for a couple of days. I think it was limited

769
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 4: if I recall correctly, he was, and then you're playing

770
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: and he had a heck of a first half to

771
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: Tampa and then he hurt the heel. So it's it's

772
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: really hard to get a sense. I think that's why

773
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: to me, he is one of those guys that you're

774
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: most fascinated with who they end up with as a

775
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: new head coach, slash who the offensive coordinator is going

776
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: to be, because how do you put all this together?

777
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's a fat We know what you

778
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: have in Trey McBride, you know, but do you know

779
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 4: exactly what you have in Marvin Harrison Junior? Yet you

780
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 4: you might not, you know? And and how different could

781
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: it look with a new coaching staff. Michael Wilson's going

782
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: into last year of his contract next year, and he

783
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: has proven, definitely proven he can do some things, and

784
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: he certainly seems like somebody who would probably flourish in

785
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: an open market situation. So do the Cardinals try and

786
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 4: extend him?

787
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Now?

788
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: Did they let him to? See? Did see what they're

789
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: what happens with another year? And again, what does that

790
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 4: offense look like with three pass catchers you know, and

791
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: and who's throwing them the ball? And what does the

792
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: offense look like?

793
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's that is I mean, obviously the quarterback question

794
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: is going to get the bulk of the headlines. But

795
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: in terms of off season decisions, Michael Wilson, I mean,

796
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: it's got to be number two right now in terms

797
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: of help me out then or else.

798
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if that would be number two. And

799
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: so I say this only because you don't have to

800
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: do something right now because he is under contract for

801
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: another year. Clearly quarterback is number one. A decision on

802
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 4: a player per se, like, I don't I don't know

803
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: if it would be if you're talking about a player

804
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson might be in there. I would think of

805
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: in terms of decisions. I think, what what you're gonna

806
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: do with some of those offensive line spots? You know,

807
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: Evan Brown still under contract? Is you know? Thank goodness,

808
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: his wife finally posted on social media that is his

809
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: newborn child had issues and that's why he missed that

810
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: chunk of time down the stretch. But like, is he

811
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: somebody you're going to look at? Is Isaiah Adam still

812
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 4: your guard? Like? What are you going to do? What

813
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: are you going to do at right tackle? Is Kelvin

814
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: Beachum still your guy? Kelvin Beachum's a free age And

815
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: I think yes, So you got to figure out what

816
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: you're gonna do it right tackle? I mean, I think

817
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 4: the offensive line holes right now are going to weigh

818
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: a lot heavier at this point than if you extend

819
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. That's just my opinion.

820
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: It would not surprise me, and it would make me

821
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: happy if the Cardinals gave that extension to Wilson this offseason.

822
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: He deserves it and you secure him. And the whole

823
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 3: idea is he doesn't ever have to test free agency.

824
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: To Darren's point, you're in no rush. You don't have

825
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: to have this done immediately because he's under contract for

826
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: another year. You don't even have to have that decision

827
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: made by July. I mean, I mean the Cardinals can

828
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: make that decision, and they've done it with like Xavin

829
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: Collins during training camp. You have that luxury where you're

830
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: not under any sort of deadline to make that decision

831
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: with Michael Wilson. There are so many other decisions you

832
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 3: have to make of It's kind of like the chicken

833
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: or the egg, right which comes first of the head

834
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: coach or deciding what you're gonna do at quarterback and

835
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: how are those intertwined. And then to Darren's point, the draft,

836
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: like free agency, in the draft is going to be

837
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: huge as well, and in who you're going to build

838
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: around and the money you're going to have to spend.

839
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: I think it would make a lot of sense if

840
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: the Cardinals gave that contract extension to Wilson, but they

841
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: are not in a situation where they have to make

842
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: a decision one way or the other soon.

843
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: I also just putting in, I don't have a bunch

844
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: of names right now, but they don't have given this

845
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: certain the circumstances right now, they don't have a ton

846
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 4: of cap space, all things considered, and there are some

847
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: other people that are under contract and on the roster

848
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: that might not be under contract in March, they might

849
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: move on from them to clear up cap space to

850
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: go in a different direction and whatever. Again, none of

851
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: this is all domino's. Just like in some ways there's

852
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: a certain domino effect in terms of playoff teams and

853
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: coach search and who everybody's hiring. There's also the domino

854
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 4: effect of this team needs to find out who their

855
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: head coaches and the direction they're going to go before

856
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: they start figuring out the quarterback and extensions for people,

857
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: and who they want on the roster that's already here,

858
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 4: and who they might need to add all those things.

859
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was the one thing about the

860
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: Titans job. I didn't realize. Yes, they have the quarterback

861
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: and cam Ward, but Robert Sell looks at that and says,

862
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: we have one hundred million plus and available cap room

863
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans. That's obviously huge.

864
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again we've said this a million times. Cap

865
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: space can be worked with. It doesn't matter how much

866
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: you have. The Cardinals can figure stuff out. They always can.

867
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 4: In the end. It's a it's just a question of

868
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: you know, where they want to go and how Monty

869
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: sees the roster and how the new coach sees the roster.

870
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 4: And unlike the last time we went through this, where

871
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: Monty and JG both came in fresh and they're both like,

872
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: Monty's already been here and he's already spent, you know,

873
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 4: and Monti Austin fort is going to be looking for

874
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 4: the new coach. One of the things they're going to

875
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: talk to him about is this guy, this guy, this guy,

876
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: this guy, and this guy that I've all drafted that

877
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 4: I think needs more player development. They're going to be here,

878
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 4: you need to develop them. You can't just say, well,

879
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: I don't like that guy, let's move on from him necessarily.

880
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a number of guys who fit that description.

881
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Bjojalaries and Max Melton's. It's

882
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 2: not just the first rounders. It's not just Marvion Erson

883
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: junior Darius Robinson. There are other guys up and down

884
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: the draft classes that you feel like, you know what,

885
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 2: there's some unlocked potential and talent there.

886
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 3: Not to completely take this conversation into a different section,

887
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: but I will be curious as we talk about all

888
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: the changes in the offseason, if we see a different

889
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: attack and free agency that we have seen in the

890
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: past since Awesome forgot here, which makes sense as kind

891
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 3: of starting fresh, it was more so in the beginning.

892
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: Let's make sure we have the right people and a

893
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: lot of young players and build the foundation of this

894
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: team on the field and this team in the locker

895
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: room and the culture. Last free agency, we saw a

896
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: few splash signings, right bringing in the veteran of Joshuatt,

897
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: bringing Dalvin Thomlinson, Kalaius Campbell. I'll be curious what this

898
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: free agency looks like. Of Okay, if you have the

899
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: foundation of the young players you want to develop, is

900
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 3: this the free agency where we see him be more

901
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: active than we have ever before and putting in those

902
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: big dollars to proven veterans maybe in the trenches.

903
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I just I don't see Monty as

904
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: that kind of GM. I don't think he sees free

905
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: agency that way. And if he changes, there's a part

906
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: of me that's like, Okay, are you getting away from

907
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: your philosophy that you've built your career on.

908
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: Is there a big time starting guard a Robert hunt

909
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: a Joe Toney. Is there a big time guard that's

910
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: libel to hit free agency? I have not looked.

911
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 4: We got to look at that, honestly yet.

912
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: And I do think to answer Daniy's question, that's the

913
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: one here. I think they might, they might be willing

914
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: just to write that check.

915
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: And they and they might, and and we will. We

916
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: will find out sooner or later. One of the reasons

917
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: I hesitate on the free agency talk right now is

918
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: because we have so much time between UH franchise tags

919
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: and potential extensions before free agency that it almost always

920
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: drastically changed. I mean, if you look, we.

921
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: Could be talking about names that never hit the market.

922
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 4: Yea. Oftentimes, if you look at the top free agent

923
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: list right now in mid January, out of those twenty names,

924
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: fifteen are already out of the out of play by

925
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: the time you get to.

926
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Speaker 3: Free which is so crazy because you're not supposed to

927
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: talk about those things and negotiate until free agency actually starts.

928
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 4: And then no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about on the

929
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: same team. Yeah, I know, that's a whole different ballgame.

930
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: We got a tampering period now, Danny, Well, you guys,

931
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's not tamping negotiation period.

932
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Speaker 2: You're on the front lines of that at the combine.

933
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: So come on, now, you know how that sausage is made.

934
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, all right.

935
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Speaker 4: And wait until people start using AI for.

936
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 2: It NFC Championship game. We didn't need any stinking AI

937
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: around here to tell you a month ago was going

938
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: to be an all NFC West. We just didn't know

939
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: which two of the three teams would be in the

940
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: NFC Championship Rams at the Seahawks. You're leaning your head

941
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: one way and the other Danny's, So which way are

942
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: you leaning? Rams? Seahawks?

943
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, Paul. I think Seahawks. I think the

944
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: Seahawks have a really good chance to win it all. Yeah, now,

945
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: I think the Rams can give them a run for

946
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: their money. I think Seattle is more consistent in their

947
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: mode of play. I think they are cleaner up protecting

948
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: the football than la Is. I think it's gonna be

949
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: a good game. But where we stand right now, Tuesday afternoon,

950
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: I'm going Seattle.

951
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 4: Paul's already heard my comments on this, but I will

952
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: repeat them because that's the kind of guy I am.

953
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: I just I think the last time they played, which

954
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 4: was what a month ago, six weeks ago, whenever it

955
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 4: was the Rams should have won that game.

956
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: They scored, were winning that game, They.

957
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: Scored all over that Seattle defense. I think, out of

958
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 4: all the teams in the entire league, there's no team

959
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 4: that's more confident that going into Seattle for a game,

960
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 4: even against these Seahawks, than the Rams. I'm not saying

961
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 4: they're absolutely gonna win, but I I I to me,

962
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: it's this game's a toss up.

963
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: I just and you heard me say this earlier too.

964
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: I just I love the Sean McVay press conference after

965
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: the winning Chicago. It was a mixture of elation and

966
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: being terrified he was. He would talk about the game

967
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: and he's elated and what a great win on the

968
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: road in the climate overtime, and then his mind would

969
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: drift towards the next game and he would mention Seattle

970
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: and he cited three, four five different times. You guys

971
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: did see how good Seattle's defense looked on Saturday night,

972
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: right like he was talking to himself, and he had

973
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: this wide eyed look about him. It reminded me of

974
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: how coaches used to look when the Legion of Boom

975
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: was in their heyday. Twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, and you

976
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: know you were going up there to play a historically

977
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: good defense. Now, the Cardinals were virtually undefeated against that

978
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: team in Seattle. They took it as their own personal

979
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: super Bowl. In this case, the super Bowl is on

980
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: the line. And to Darren's point, they had a heck

981
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: of a game plan the first time around, because yeah,

982
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford company carved them up. Had a fourteen point

983
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: lead middle of the fourth quarter, and then the Rashid

984
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: chi head punt return boom. They go overtime and lose.

985
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: So are you going with la I'd love to love

986
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: I'd love to see the Twelves, who, by the way,

987
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: had their first home playoff game in a decade. Okay,

988
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: don't make it sound like Seattle has been this, you know,

989
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: annual site of playoff football in the NFL.

990
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: They playoffs.

991
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: They had a decade drought up there.

992
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: Did you see it? Was it Trent Williams the visiting

993
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: tunnel where the players all gathered ripped, you know, the

994
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: famous sign guy ripped the sign down? Was that Trent Williams.

995
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: It was Trent, But a bunch of those guys are

996
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: gathered in there.

997
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: Yet someone did one of the signs.

998
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: Yep.

999
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: So I wonder how many, definite how many signs have

1000
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: been grabbed and ripped over the years.

1001
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: See now they hang over more and there seemingly it's

1002
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: it's a little easier access. But back in the day

1003
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: you needed to be Kalais Campbell and he's the only

1004
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: one I've ever witnessed personally seen someone reach up with

1005
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: a six foot eight and rip it down tart in half.

1006
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Although Khalais is such a good guy, he said later

1007
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: he felt a little guilty about that. He actually apologized

1008
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: to the sign piece.

1009
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Speaker 3: It's such a kala I saw them pregame this year

1010
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: in Seattle and they were chatting it up and saying

1011
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: hello to each other, I know, and the sign was

1012
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: actually really nice about Kalais. I mean, all things considered,

1013
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: and Kalai has had a good laugh about it.

1014
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: I mean, when did this guy become someone you was

1015
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: so pociate with, you know, all of a sudden, you know,

1016
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: is this guy like it's like this guy's an influencer

1017
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 2: or something, And now we're all the opposing teams are yeah,

1018
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: so all right, Uh that might bring us full circle

1019
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: around here. We haven't anything else break over the last hour,

1020
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: not mine, no nothing, No one added to this, noone's subtracted.

1021
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: And welcome to ask chat GPT. Paul, right, I might

1022
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Speaker 2: just do that.

1023
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: Why do you ask chat GPT what you do with

1024
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: all your retirement money that you're gonna pull?

1025
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: That's right, that'll be worthless. You know what? What are Yeah?

1026
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 2: What are we gonna? You know that's the next book.

1027
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Speaker 4: I've seen that movie. It doesn't I don't like how

1028
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: that movie goes that you're always trying to get up

1029
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: to something up in the sky where all the rich

1030
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: people are.

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Speaker 2: We'll take your word for it. Darren Here on Cardinals Underground,

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