WEBVTT - V2K: The Microwave Auditory Effect 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.000 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:13.000 Works dot com. Hey, you're welcome to stuff to Blow 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.440 your mind. My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm Joe McCormick. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.599 And you know most of us live. I feel in 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:23.560 kind of a balanced world where on one hand, yes, 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:30.000 you have the government doing heinous things, occasionally um careless things. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.120 Sometimes just very manipulate things. Uh you know the U. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.599 S Military love went flying flying around attack drones, US 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.800 government sifting through our email. But on the other hand, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.080 there's uh, there's also kind of a comedy of the 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.960 errors to everything. Sure, this is a point that I 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.640 remember Scully made it in at least one episode of 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.440 The X Files, but I feel like should have been 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.320 made more often. Though it guess it didn't apply in 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:56.760 the X Files because in the X Files the conspiracy 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.240 is always real. But but at least in one episode 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.520 she makes the point that I think you're giving the 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.280 government too much credit. Yeah, this is often a feeling 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.520 I have when talking to somebody who believes that there's 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.720 a vast conspiracy that's controlling world events through secret channels 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.399 that are somehow always just just one step ahead of 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.000 the people trying to find evidence of them. My feeling is, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.440 by and large, the government is so incompetent at everything, 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.760 how could it possibly carry off this one thing? So? Well, yeah, 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:37.200 there when you look at at various delusional situations that 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:43.200 involve the government and persecution of an individual by the government, uh, 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.800 there's this. The whole the whole governmental system has to 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:51.240 be working like this perfect machine to target that individual. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.480 And then and then then, of course you have to 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.640 raise questions like why this individual, why is so much 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.560 work going on? Why are where's why, why are all 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.600 these tag dollars going to say being thoughts into this 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.960 random person's head. Well, now you have zeroed in on 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:12.880 one particular conspiracy, the conspiracy to target a person and 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.640 use some kind of electromagnetic radiation or you know, auditory 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.600 electronic technology to put messages in their brain, to beam 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.359 noises at them that make it impossible for them to sleep, 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.560 to uh, to give them deafening booms and clicks and 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:33.440 unpleasant sounds in the attempt ultimately to drive them crazy. Yeah. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.000 This is often referred to as V two K or 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.440 voice to skull. I'm not sure why it's not V 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.280 two F. There are other terms that you'll see pop up. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.560 If you go into the corners of the Internet that 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.920 explore this phenomenon, some of the things you'll hear are 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:54.040 electromagnetic torture or electromagnetic harassment or auditory harassment. What are 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:58.840 some others? Gang stalking is another one. Yeah, just just 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.960 electronic mind can roll just the idea that there's generally 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:06.720 like a cabal of shadowy individuals that are just outside 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.320 of your reach, maybe at the van at either of 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.720 the street, or in that apartment next to you, and 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.639 they are just they've got all the technology and they're 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.600 using it to infiltrate your thoughts. Yeah, so we don't 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.960 want to mention or call out anyone directly, that's not 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.720 our intention here. But if you are interested in what 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.040 this looks like, you can google any of these terms 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:29.160 we just mentioned and check out the websites, forums, message 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.240 boards where people are propagating these ideas. This is a 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.920 popular idea now, especially that you can find on the internet. Yeah, 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.560 I go to any one of these websites and you'll 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.040 find a slew of them. If you're just throw in 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.080 the search terminology and they you'll find that they serve 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.160 as kind of each one is kind of like a 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.720 Petri dish for paranoid delusion UM and and often it 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.760 will involve V two k UM this voice to skull 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.360 transmission we're discussing here. Sometimes it will also throw in 0:03:55.440 --> 0:04:01.080 things like brainstem implants that have been secretly implanted in 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.000 your skull that are aiding the shadowy individuals in their 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.520 persecution of you. Yeah, and these communities have been evident 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.920 online for a while. There was actually a New York 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.800 Times article I found all the way back in two 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:17.680 thousand and eight talking about the emergence of communities related 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:22.039 to supposed gang stalking or mind control or electromagnetic torture 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.120 emerging on the Internet, and it raised some interesting questions. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.080 I thought one of them was about whether these online 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.279 groups overall have a positive or negative effect on the 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.520 people suffering from the belief that they're being harassed by 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.960 these devices. On one hand, sites like this can allow 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:43.440 people to maintain harmful delusions through repetitive reinforcement, and obviously 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.760 that's not a good thing. But on the other hand, 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.320 they do provide people with a sense of community support 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.760 and positive psychological effects of validation, like in some cases 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.200 it can help just to be told you're not crazy. Yeah, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.919 just to have somebody else in the world who seems 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.560 to be going through the same thing you are. UM. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.680 But then yeah, it's also in the article to make 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.919 the comparison to a shark. It's like that the shark 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.280 that has to keep moving to stay alive, and this um, 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.760 these websites allow that shark to keep moving. It feeds 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.000 the delusion and sometimes strengthen it give you, gives you 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:21.520 a more script, more more mean, more pre existing trope 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.680 to draw on, Like maybe you didn't even think about 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.120 the prospect of having a brain stem implant, but now 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.159 bad idea has been introduced. And when it's introduced with say, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.240 pictures of what the back of your your your your 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.440 lobo look like if there was an incision there. Yeah, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.400 we were looking at one of these websites before we 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.160 recorded today, and they had images of the supposed scar 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.599 tissue that forms after the implant is placed behind your 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.440 ear and your skull. And we have the thought, how 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.080 often do people look at the backs of their ears? Yeah, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.200 it's that there are very few. Unless you're in a 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.239 medical profession or what have you, you're you're probably looking 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.960 at the backs of very few ears. You know, where 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.159 you actually been back the ear and look and look there. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.040 And so in these particular photographs they were showing, you know, 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.520 a popular implant they've taken place. Do you you see this 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.800 big stitch there, and then showing you what I take 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.640 to take to be just a normal ear. But they're 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.920 they're trying to point out, oh, there's a line right here. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.800 This is clearly where the the implantation took place. So 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.120 you might not have that in your head, but now 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.640 you've gone to this place, you're you're sharing in these 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.360 new delusions as well as strengthening your pre existing ones. Yeah, 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.360 and then there's also a complication that emerges when you're 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:38.159 talking about the idea of a delusion because many psychological 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.680 authorities historically have made exceptions for beliefs held by large 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.800 communities of people. So there are often exceptions for religious beliefs. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.600 If if a belief is part of your religion, it's 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.760 not considered a delusion. The same is true for cultural 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.440 or subcultural beliefs. If you belong to a culture that 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.520 shares these ideas, then it's not considered a delusion. But 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:05.400 what happens if people experiencing similar delusions find each other 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.400 on the Internet and form a community. Yeah, that's something 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.120 British psychologist Dr Von Bell brought up in that New 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.760 York Times article. Um, the author interviewed him, and he 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.080 said that that if it's if it's a culture or subculture, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.880 it's not a delusion. According to the American Psychiatric Association. Uh, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.680 it kind of has the same occupies, the same space 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.800 as say a religion, where a divine being may speak 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.600 to you and you may speak to the divine being 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.880 and it's perfectly acceptable. Uh. There's no technology involved. It's 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.160 all mysticism, so we tend to give it a pass. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.320 But well, it happens when it's V two K right. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.080 The the idea of other voices appearing in your head 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.000 is not new. I mean, this goes back thousands of years, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.560 but there's a new version of it. There's a new 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:54.080 thing to attribute it to, which is this electromagnetic radiation 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.920 coming from devices, which we will talk about in this episode. Personally, 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.120 I think it's tough coming up with the right response 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.720 to things like this, because I don't want to be 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:10.440 insensitive to people suffering, even if what they believe is 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:15.320 happening is probably not objectively true. They're they're subjective suffering 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.200 is totally real, and so I don't think it's plausible 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.920 that government agencies men in suits in the black cars, 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.360 or I guess the white vans in this case, are 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.960 secret secretly running a massive microwave torture campaign on random 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.640 people throughout the population. But I also suspect it's not 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.360 very helpful to these people just to have one more 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.720 person tell them they're wrong. So my goal isn't just 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.960 to tell these people they're wrong. Ultimately, I don't know 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.800 what the most helpful thing to do is. But it's tough. Yeah, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.439 I mean, on one level, we're definitely not doubting the 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:55.439 the subjective experience of what's going on. I mean, anytime 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.559 an individual is is experiencing something paranormal, the experience is 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.400 still valid than the reasoning for that experience. Uh, that's 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:08.920 open for discussion and generally leads one to a scientific explanation. Um, 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.160 but yeah, what do you what do you do in 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.280 a case like this, Because like the same person who 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.600 is hearing voices, you wouldn't say, oh, well you should 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.480 just go to your church about that, where someone might 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.920 tell you, oh, well, that's the devil talking to you 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.040 or God talking to you when clearly there's something else 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.640 going on there that requires professional assistance. Yeah. And then, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.560 on the other hand, encouraging people's delusions can have actual 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:36.160 negative consequences for the people suffering from them, because when 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.760 someone is suffering from a persistent belief that is not 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:45.920 supported by evidence, they are additionally vulnerable to predatory behavior 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.520 by people who might be trying to exploit them or 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.280 get money from them or something. Yeah. I mean I 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.080 saw on some of these websites. Uh, and you know 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.840 it was at times these websites are kind of a 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.480 ramble and kind of just an explosion of text in 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.760 a way that difficult to find a thread of what's 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.000 being discussed. But I ran across one, whether it was 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.280 talk of getting your your implant, your brain stem implant 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:14.440 treated or deactivated by paying somebody like a thousand dollars 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.320 and going to stay in a hotel room in New 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.079 Jersey or something to that effect. So someone is charging money. Yeah, 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.959 so you know, you get into and I'm not you know, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.960 I don't know exactly what the details are in that 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.480 particular treatment, but it raises some questions from me, that's 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.880 for sure. Yeah, and you you may actually have encountered 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:35.000 some stories about people who claimed to be suffering from 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.640 from V two K attacks in the media. One example 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:44.400 was the Washington Navy yard shooter. Yes, Aaron Alexis and uh, yeah, 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.200 this one came to light after the events that he 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:51.520 had uh in the past, told police that some individual 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.000 quote had sent three people to follow him and to talk, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:11:00.880 keep him awake, and send vibrations into his body. So, um, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.400 you know, that's a sobering reminder that that well, where 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.319 these illusions can lead. I mean, certainly not in every case, 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.840 but but the this is a this is a harmful 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:16.720 um psychiatric condition. Yeah, so what is the actual mechanism 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.160 that's being imagined here and how does it connect to 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.880 real world technology that actually does exist? And then yeah, 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.840 this is where it gets interesting and it uh and 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.959 it again comes back to you know, your your imagined individual. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.880 Here are our prototypal individual who's maybe hearing voices, goes 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.440 to one of these websites, and certainly there's a you know, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.440 a lot of of of ideas are throwing at them, 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.000 a lot of conspiracy theories. But if they dig around enough, 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:45.880 they'll also find um references to actual science, to the 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:51.080 actual microwave auditory effect, which we're going to discuss here today. Yeah, 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.199 so that's sort of the central idea of this podcast. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.679 What is the microwave auditory effect, what causes it, and 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.480 how can it be applied technological lee. Well, first, let's 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.040 demystify microwaves in general. Right, If you read some of 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.160 this literature, you can get a sense that microwaves almost 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.520 have this magical kind of power, that there's something very 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:19.760 special and sacred and dangerous about them. Microwaves are incredibly mundane. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.320 We use them in everything. They're in you know, ten 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.320 pieces of technology that you can see right now. Yeah, 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.800 your phone's using it, your computers using it, your WiFi router, 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.719 the microwave ove, and in your kitchen. It's microwaves are 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.560 all around us. Specifically, microwaves are a form of non 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:43.439 ionizing radiation on the electromagnetic spectrum. So they're e M radiation. 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:48.440 They're the same type of radiation as visible light, as ultraviolet, 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.839 as gamma rays, X rays, and radio waves. And so 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.760 what makes something a microwave is its wavelength where it 0:12:55.880 --> 0:13:00.520 falls on the wavelength spectrum of electromagnetic radiation. Yeah. Now, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.920 and I've read that the widespread use of microwave ovens 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:08.679 helps color this kind of negative idea because if you're 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:12.200 unfamiliar with any other use of microwave technology in your life, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.839 you're probably familiar with the one that is in your 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.800 kitchen and you have seen it, say, incinerate a burrito before. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.720 So so if you failed to incinerate or failed to 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.600 incinerate a brio, imperfectly heat up a burrito. So you've 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.640 seen this. This kind of it's kind of nefarious if 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.240 you start thinking of your brain inside the microwave oven. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.040 But but of course microwaves are not just invisible fire. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.079 You know, if you think of it like invisible fire, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:43.079 it can take on this scarier, uh, this scarier effect 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.960 in your brain. But but actually the cooking effect of 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.800 a microwave oven is just taking advantage of the fact 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:54.000 that water is a polar molecule, and that microwaves can 0:13:54.120 --> 0:14:00.199 make water molecules vibrate, which creates heat. Now, is it 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.360 worth noting that the technology does allow us to do 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.440 something called power beaming or wireless power transmission, though that 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.280 is substantially different than beaming thoughts into your brain, right, 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.360 But it is very interesting. This is something i've talked 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.840 about in my other podcast, Forward Thinking quite a bit. 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:20.080 Wireless power transmission is a cool idea. So one of 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.360 the ways you've probably heard of wireless power transmission working 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.280 is through inductive coupling, and that that's going to be 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.560 a different kind of thing. That's like how you might 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.720 charge your toothbrush without actually having to plug it into 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.800 any contacts. Instead, it just works by generating an electromagnetic 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:40.520 field that stimulates a coil inside the toothbrush and charges 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:44.680 it that way. But with wireless power transmission through microwaves, 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:49.440 you're actually talking about beaming microwaves at an antenna called 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.320 a rectifying antenna that receives the microwaves and converts them 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.760 into DC energy. Yeah. The one of the more famous 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.720 examples that like early tests of this was in ninet 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.960 to be four, and I believe they're in there's their 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.880 image there at least images, if not video of this 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.840 online where you can see where they they use um 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:11.320 microwave power transmission to being power to a miniature helicopter 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.320 and keep it up in the air for ten hours. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.760 So it's that's pretty cool. Yeah, And I've seen some interesting, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.960 you know, things about the possibility of say permanent aircraft 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.200 where you have them up in the air and they 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:27.400 continually get recharged via wireless power transmission. It factors into 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.880 various designs for spacecraft with use of lasers for even 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:36.240 a long distance spacecraft. Oh yeah, yeah, lasers being the 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.240 other common wave being makes power like that. One of 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:44.119 the coolest ideas to me that involves wireless power transmission 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.400 by microwaves is orbital solar power. Have you ever heard 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.000 about this proposal? Yes? This is where you go ahead 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.720 and just get the solar panels up there in orbit 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.240 or even on another entity up there, um, you know, 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.240 say the Moon, what have you, and then let it 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.120 collect the energy there and then beam it back to 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.240 the planet. Right. I mean, it's a big problem to 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.520 have solar panels on the surface of the Earth because 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.800 they're blocked by clouds they can you know, and it's 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.080 nighttime a lot of the time. What if you just 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.160 have them out at space where they're always getting direct 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.080 sunlight that you don't have to worry about clouds your nighttime. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.160 That would be wonderful, But how do you get the power? 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.480 And the idea is that they would beam the power 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.680 back down to Earth via microwaves. And so you'd have 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:30.040 this gigantic field of rectifying antennas to receive the power 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.480 that's being beamed down to the surface, and then they 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.960 could send that power out to places where we could 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:39.560 use it. So microwaves are pretty fascinating. They go beyond 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.640 cooking your burrito. They could power spaceships, they could they 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.360 could power the planet. Um. And yet there's a there's 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.600 a curious little side effect that we're gonna that we 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.960 end up discussing here, the microwave auditory effect, which which 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.240 came out of early investigations into well what are the 0:16:56.280 --> 0:17:00.200 effects of microwaves on an organism? Right, because because see 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.640 not just cooking, not just cooking, you know, because as 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.560 we're developing this technology, we're very interested in how how's 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.400 it going to affect us the the human user. Yeah, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.720 and we should be upfront that a lot of these 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:17.040 studies that we're gonna be talking about, I think very 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:21.400 much did involve a military or weaponized focus. Yeah, I mean, 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.280 because like I mean, of course, anytime there is an 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.960 invisible beam that can cause things to cook, you know, 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.840 there there you've got a perfect weapon. Right. And plus 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.199 also any anything you know a number of things in 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.040 the post war and Cold War period were investigated that 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.080 were far less wrap people than this. I mean, on 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.000 this show before, we've talked about and I know I've 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:48.120 blogged about military investigations of essentially paranormal um activities such 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.560 as telepathy and remote viewing, just to see if it 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.000 was valuable, because hey, you know, the Russians are gonna 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.080 look at it, we might as well look at it too, 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.840 And maybe there's probably nothing there, but what if there is, right, 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.160 so you have to investigate it. I love to imagine 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.440 what would have happened if things had gone the other 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.399 way and they discovered that, oh yeah, all these phenomenon 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.760 are great for warfare. They do exist and we can 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.960 use them. And now we've got the Telekinesis brigades. Yeah, 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.199 I guess they're the vanguard of our approaching forces and 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.720 that they just like throw all the barbed wire out 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:22.119 of the way exactly. Anyway, But this one was a legit. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.280 This one, this is this is real research into the 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:29.720 microwave auditory effect. It is a totally verified phenomenon, and 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.480 it goes back to a guy named Alan H. Fray. Yeah, 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:37.320 he was a neuroscientist looking at the effects of microwaves 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:42.240 on organisms. And in nineteen sixty two he discovered the 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.400 microwave auditory effects. Sometimes it's even called the Fray effect. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.399 Um and uh and and he and he published this paper, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.160 which is easily available online in large part because it's 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.960 a scientifically viable bit of evidence for the more deluded 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.360 aspects of the two K. Well, you know, I think 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.679 the version of the paper that I read, I'm pretty 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.320 sure was hosted on a on a v two K 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.160 attack website. Yeah, sadly that was like the best place 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:11.360 to get it without paying for it. Um but but yeah, 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.639 he's eh. Ray says in his says in his paper, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.520 he says, with appropriate modulation, the perception of various sounds 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.119 can be induced in clinically deaf as well as normal 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.880 human subjects at a distance of inches up to thousands 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.800 of feet from the transmitter. With somewhat different transmitter parameters, 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.560 we can induce the perception of severe buffeting of the 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:34.720 head without such a parent vestibular symptoms as dizziness or nausea. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.159 Changing to transmitter parameters again, one can induce pins and 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:44.080 pins and needles sensation. Yeah. So the effect he describes 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:49.800 essentially is that they could aim pulses of microwave radiation 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.760 at people's heads and induce the sensation that the person 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.600 was hearing a sound. There was no sound, like if 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.400 you weren't standing in this beam, you wouldn't hear anything. 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.679 But based on how this beam was interacting with the 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:08.360 people's bodies, specifically something in their heads, they thought they 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.080 heard noise. And the noise was described as a buzzing 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.760 or a clicking I think, And it seemed to originate 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.560 from inside the head or from directly behind the head, 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.359 And it didn't matter what direction you turned in, so 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.320 you could walk all around in different directions and no 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.080 matter what, it would seem to be coming from the 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.880 same place inside your head or directly behind your skull. Now, 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.119 for I thought the microwave auditory effet could possibly use 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.159 as a tool to explore nervous system coding UH and 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.640 for stimulating the nervous system without the without the damage 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.520 caused by using say electrodes. Right, yeah, so, I think 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.760 early on the some people hypothesized that it was coming 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:49.879 from an interaction between the microwave pulses and auditory nerves 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.480 or neurons. But I read in UH in an abstract 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.920 research from Lynn and Wang that they eventually found instead 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:01.120 that quote, the microwave pulse on absorption by soft tissues 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.560 in the head launches a thermoelastic wave of acoustic pressure 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.800 that travels by bone conduction to the inner ear. There 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.320 it activates the co clear receptors via the same process 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:17.280 involved in normal hearing. So it's creating a shock wave 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:21.520 in the soft tissue inside your head that gets that 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.560 the bone picks up and then says it sounds like 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.800 a sound. Yeah. And you know this is related to 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.399 some of the ways that we hear sounds, such as 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.960 when you hear sound underwater. You know, the bone is 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:38.160 involved in the hearing the interception of those sound waves. Um. Now, 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.159 in the early nineteen seventies, that's where this gets into 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.080 the realm of whispers and voices. When Joseph Sharp and 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.040 Mark Grove at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.960 they took phrase work one step further and successfully transmitted 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:55.560 a speech into the human skull using pulsed microwaves. Yeah, 0:21:55.640 --> 0:22:00.359 and so, first of all, that's unsettling, but number too, 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.280 don't get carried away because it would be easy to 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:09.840 overstate the effectiveness of this effect they observed because the 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:14.720 idea is not necessarily that you hear normal speech in 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.760 your head as as sent by these signals, but instead 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.439 it was more that they could sent At least, this 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.400 is the impression I get from what's available. I get 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.040 the feeling that what they're saying is they could synthesize 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.479 the sound of speech. Yes, that's what I got. It 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.880 was kind of like a modulated voice like one might 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.119 create through the use of a synthesize of So by 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:38.760 using these different types of modulated pulses of microwave energy, 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.919 they could create sort of clicks and buzzes that sound 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:46.240 sort of like whispered words. So obviously a lot of 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:50.080 this research is taking place um for the military, and 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:54.600 the military is inherently interested in finding ways to utilize 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:58.600 new technology for their their purposes. You can just imagine 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.879 the scene in the movie where there are several you know, 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.040 kind of like tough looking generals sitting around a table 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:09.000 with their aviator sunglasses on, and they're like, oh, I 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.200 just read about this microwave auditory effect. This will keep 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.359 the troops in line, and we can really use it 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.679 to undercut enemy moral by whispering what would you whisper 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.240