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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercam. I'm a mother of four,

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Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger. On

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Speaker 1: the side, we are two working parents who love our

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Speaker 1: careers and our families. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

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Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family,

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Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping

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Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

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Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode fifty. Wow, we're getting

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Speaker 1: up there. We have talking all things dinner again. Longtime

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Speaker 1: listeners may recall that we had another episode on meal

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Speaker 1: planning and getting dinner on the Table back in the

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Speaker 1: fall of twenty seventeen. You can go back and check

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Speaker 1: out that episode number fourteen. And by the way, if

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Speaker 1: We really would appreciate you checking out and you can

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Speaker 1: tell us if we've gotten better. Hopefully we have. We're

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Speaker 1: a bit more polished now than we were back then. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: So we did this dinner episode in the fall and

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: positive feedback, a lot of maybe more mixed feedback too,

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Speaker 1: because a few people putting it out that neither Sarah

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Speaker 1: nor I are actually the person getting dinner on our

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Speaker 1: on the table for our families during the week. It's

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Speaker 1: not like we never have, by the way, I did

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Speaker 1: for a great many years and then decided about two

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Speaker 1: outsource it. I'm the same for you, right, Sarah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so I think our episode was good taking the

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Speaker 1: and having practical tips for doing it ourselves. And yes,

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Speaker 1: I during North Carolina phase, I made dinner, you know,

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Speaker 1: witching hour with three children and getting dinner on the table,

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Speaker 1: and that is a choice that I have made. But

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Speaker 1: I'm I actually am always enthralled to hear secrets of

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Speaker 1: those who have figured that out. So I think our

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Speaker 1: definitely obviously an option to people talk about, like what

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Speaker 1: very excited to welcome Tiffany Kane to the podcast today Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: why don't you introduce yourself to our listeners. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: fighting your knife at every cut, and you just work quickly.

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Speaker 1: You're not aiming for perfection, You're just aiming to get

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Speaker 1: your dinner done. It doesn't take as long as we think. Yeah, So, Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: what are your favorite tools? You just mentioned the knife,

432
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Speaker 1: like that you have a good knife. What are some

433
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Speaker 1: other key things to have in the kitchen for the

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Speaker 1: quick and quick and dirty home home cook. Yeah, the

435
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Speaker 1: good knife, in a good cutting board that's not going

436
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Speaker 1: to dole your knife, So probably a wooden one and

437
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Speaker 1: maybe a plastic if you're gonna use it for chicken

438
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Speaker 1: so you can sanitize. Then I love a garlic press

439
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: because it's really fast and you can get that fresh

440
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Speaker 1: garlic flavor. But another tip is to use the jar garlic.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people like that an instant pot. The

442
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Speaker 1: more I use it, the more I love it. I

443
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: will say that you won't get your dinner done in

444
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Speaker 1: two or three minutes the way some recipes will tell you.

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00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: That is just not the case. It's not actually having

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Speaker 1: a nice Yeah, you have to wait for the pot

447
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Speaker 1: to come to pressure, and you have to add that

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Speaker 1: to whatever cook time you put in. So a twelve

449
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Speaker 1: minute cook time, you still may be looking at it

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Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty minutes total time, but still that's

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Speaker 1: pretty fast. A slow cooker definitely is a tool that

452
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Speaker 1: I find so handy because if you're working a twelve

453
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Speaker 1: hour shift, if you choose the right slow cooker recipe.

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Speaker 1: Not every slow cooker recipe can take twelve hours of

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Speaker 1: cook time, but a lot of soups, stews, larger pieces

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Speaker 1: of meat can handle that. That's a great tool to have.

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Speaker 1: And then a sheet pan, so either one really large

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Speaker 1: one or two small ones. I find that if you

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Speaker 1: really don't want to do dishes too small lined are

460
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Speaker 1: better than one large one because with the large you

461
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Speaker 1: have to use two pieces of foil. And then the

462
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Speaker 1: juices run underneath, and then suddenly you have to do dishes.

463
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Speaker 1: So yeah, save yourself the trouble with that, that's true,

464
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Speaker 1: and just in terms of like what you put on it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people can just make their own sheet pan

466
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Speaker 1: recipes too. Is there a good formula for a good

467
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Speaker 1: sheet pan dinner for me? I like to have some

468
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Speaker 1: kind of a meat obviously, if you're vegetarian, you can

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Speaker 1: skip that part, and then I like to do some

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Speaker 1: sort of a starchy vegetable, potatoes or sweet potatoes, something

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Speaker 1: like that, and then some other kind of vegetable. I

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Speaker 1: love Brussels sprouts and I always do those fresh over frozen.

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Speaker 1: They're really good. One tip if you want to do

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Speaker 1: a super simple vegetable is to use green beans. You

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Speaker 1: can use those frozen, especially the thin cut green beans.

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Speaker 1: Toss them with the olive oil, still frozen, put them

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Speaker 1: on the pan, still frozen in the oven. It works fantastic.

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00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: Same with chicken tender, you can use them frozen, put

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Speaker 1: them straight onto the pan, frozen, sprinkle whatever seasonings in

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Speaker 1: the oven they go. I love that tip because they

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Speaker 1: turn out really well and you didn't have to thaw anything,

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Speaker 1: and it really doesn't take. I'd say probably twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: at four to twenty five would do it for those Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you recommend using like a thermometer or something like

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Speaker 1: a meat thermometer, I'm sure or you can, I think

486
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Speaker 1: through it, through it and make sure it's cooked through.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I met a meat thermometer would be a

488
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Speaker 1: more exact way to do it, for sure. So I

489
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Speaker 1: think one of the things that people need to get

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Speaker 1: their heads around it. I mean, as you talk about

491
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Speaker 1: a lot of this cooking, it really is just as

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Speaker 1: fast or faster than running to a restaurant. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so why do you think, like, I mean, given that

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Speaker 1: you have to eat any way, like, why why do

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Speaker 1: you think people do wind up doing the restaurant thing

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Speaker 1: as much as you know people tend to. I think

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Speaker 1: part of it probably is because we don't have a plan.

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Speaker 1: And when you don't have a plan, then if you

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Speaker 1: get to five thirty six o'clock and you've got a

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Speaker 1: hungry van full of kids, it's just so tempting you think, oh,

501
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Speaker 1: I'm out, I don't have a plan, let's just do this,

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Speaker 1: which is fine every once in a while for me personally,

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Speaker 1: I like to eat out and I do eat out,

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Speaker 1: but I like to do it when I plan for it.

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Speaker 1: I really don't like to do it when I've gotten

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Speaker 1: to the point where I didn't make a plan and

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Speaker 1: now we have to that. I get irritated with myself

508
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Speaker 1: when I do that, because I always think, whatever, we

509
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Speaker 1: just ran through and got really fast, it would have

510
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Speaker 1: been so much better to make something at home. It

511
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Speaker 1: would have tasted better, it would have been better for us,

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Speaker 1: We would have felt better after we ate it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well i'd throw in that, you know. Also, supermarket shortcuts

514
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: can work too, if you think about it, like a

515
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: rotisserie chicken and a bagged salad is also a dinner,

516
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: absolutely yes, and yeah so and that probably is going

517
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: to be cheaper and healthier than you know, the drive

518
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Speaker 1: through in many cases. So that's always an option. It is.

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Speaker 1: And if you're starting to kind of break that eating

520
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: out habit and work to eating at home, that is

521
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: a really great way to go to run through the

522
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Speaker 1: grocery and get something if you need to, just anything

523
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: to keep you from doing the restaurant thing to break

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Speaker 1: that habit. Yeah, And one of the fun things about

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Speaker 1: Tiffany's book Eat at Home Tonight is that she she

526
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Speaker 1: throws into these little bonus things too, So it's recipes

527
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: of course, but then she's got these sidebars on fun

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Speaker 1: things like, you know, conversation starters, because I mean, part

529
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Speaker 1: of the reason one of the things you're trying to

530
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: encourage people with is not just like solving the problem

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Speaker 1: of getting dinner on the table, it's actually making family

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Speaker 1: dinner and experience. I mean one of the things you

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Speaker 1: mentioned is that it hits all five love languages. What

534
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Speaker 1: does that mean? It does? So the love languages are

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Speaker 1: from Gary Smallly's book Five Love Languages, and they are

536
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: let me see if I can remember on top of

537
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Speaker 1: my head, the love language of physical touch is one.

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00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: So you're sitting close together, So yeah, gifts, gift, just

539
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: quality time, acts of service, that's the last one. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's ben It just kind of builds all of that in. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: quality time is just naturally built in when you're having

542
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: dinner together, physical touch here right next to each other.

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Speaker 1: You can hold hands when you pray, or put a

544
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Speaker 1: hand on a shoulder. Words of affirmation. Again, if it's

545
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: so easy to do that at dinner time, to just

546
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 1: speak positively to each other, acts of service is cooking meals,

547
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: clearing your table, cleaning up. That's all an active service,

548
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: and gift giving is a little bit harder. But if

549
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: you may a special dish or a special meal, that's

550
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Speaker 1: like a gift for the person. I think cooking for

551
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: someone is definitely a gift. I mean, that's obviously it's

552
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: an active service too. Yes, unlike sweeping the floor. There's

553
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: something you like at the end of the cooking, so

554
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: that could be the gift exactly. And now that my

555
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: kids are older, you know, I've seen this through from

556
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Speaker 1: the time that they were really little twenty six years

557
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: ago when we had our very first all the way

558
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Speaker 1: through to I've got two kids who are married now

559
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Speaker 1: and they are beginning to build that dinner time habit

560
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: with their spouses. No grandkids yet, so I haven't seen

561
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: that part of it. But it's just it's really neat

562
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: for me to see how prioritizing that dinner hour over

563
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: the years is spilling off into the next generation. And

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Speaker 1: how how my kids are handling their relationships with each other.

565
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: That's wonderful. And so what's one of your favorite conversation starters,

566
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Speaker 1: Like if you're all sitting around the table, and I

567
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: think most of us have a tendency just be like, oh,

568
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: so how is your day? You know, so which what

569
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: did you do today? Nothing? Yeah, so what's something to

570
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: get kids to talk? Getting kids to talk can be

571
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: a little bit hard depending on your kid. I have

572
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: one who will talk NonStop and others who won't get

573
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: started at all. The best and worst of your day

574
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: is a good one. How did you help someone today

575
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: or how did someone help you is another good one.

576
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes we talk about how technology gets you know, it's

577
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: so invasive in our lives, so I like to bring

578
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: up like how how would you try to stay off

579
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Speaker 1: your phone? Or do you think it matters? And let's

580
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: just talk about that a little bit, those kinds of things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a whole list in the book of conversation starters.

582
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: And Sarah, what's your favorite conversation starter? Well, I'm similar

583
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Speaker 1: and that like I tend to so we don't do

584
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: family dinner, That's that's my admission, but we do tend to.

585
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Like I get home around six almost every night and

586
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: my kids have already eaten, but they're they're starting to

587
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: sort of want to usually get like a little snack,

588
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: like a lot of times they'll have some fruit just

589
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: while I'm eating dinner. So they sit there, which I

590
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: really like, and I usually ask them the best and

591
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: worst part of their day, so and they enjoy giving

592
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: me some I mean, my six year old's like very

593
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: literal and we'll tell me specifics, and my four year

594
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: old says something off the wall and is funny. But

595
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: it's very enjoyable and I can imagine. I mean again,

596
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that we're going to have it in

597
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: the traditional sense. We definitely do more breakfasts with all

598
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: of us together, but I do look forward to, you know,

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: once they're a little more civilized, maybe actually eating a

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Speaker 1: meal with them. We'll see. We've been doing a fair

601
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Speaker 1: number on family breakfast. I mean I tend to, you know,

602
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: eat with the kids in the evening as well, but

603
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: family breakfast has been something that's that's worked for us.

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00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: And I don't know that it will next year because

605
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: night oldest is starting middle school, so that will be

606
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: a different start time, so there's probably gonna be breakfast

607
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: and shifts more than it is. But it's just nice

608
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: to sort of sit around and talk and you know,

609
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: ask people what they're looking forward to in the day.

610
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: That's something we can always talk about. And then you know,

611
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: I feel like the conversations kind of happen anyway at

612
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: the end. I have a lot of talkative children. But

613
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, usually if I try to ask something specific

614
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: that I know somebody has had happened during the day,

615
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 1: so that then I can it's harder to not answer

616
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: a question about like, hey, how was you know pajama

617
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: day today at school? That you know, that gets an

618
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: answer more than what did you do right? Which doesn't. Yes.

619
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Speaker 1: And then when kids get older, I think it's important

620
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: to steer clear of maybe the discipline issues that you

621
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: need to bring up because those things they are there,

622
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: and you sometimes you think, okay, we're going to get

623
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: into this now because we're all gathered here. But I've

624
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: learned sometimes the hard way that dinner is not a

625
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: great time to do that. That doesn't help any Yeah,

626
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: you want it to be a positive, we say, don't

627
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: yuck my right, Yes, So Tiffany, we always do a

628
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: love of the week, which is something that we are

629
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: happy about this week, grateful for enjoying all those those

630
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: type of things. So Sarah and I can go first,

631
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: and then you can be thinking of one as we're

632
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: doing this, So Sarah, Sarah, what's yours this week? Yeah,

633
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Speaker 1: so I'm going with the food theme since it's a

634
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: foody episode, and my love of the week is leftovers,

635
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: and I think we talked about We did talk about

636
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: that specifically on our prior Dinner episode, but I just

637
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: want to give leftovers in general another shout out, because

638
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the easiest ways to eat

639
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: home cooked food in an efficient manner. I often have

640
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Monday's dinner for Tuesday's lunch. We almost always eat the

641
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Speaker 1: same thing Tuesday and Wednesday and then Thursday and Friday,

642
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: or you could alternate it, and it just means more

643
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: home cook food, less healthy, easy, and honestly, usually I

644
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: can handle. I can tolerate something twice past that, I

645
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: will admit, you can get a little old. My husband

646
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: could probably eat the same thing for like a week.

647
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: I can't do it, but two times is never really

648
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: a problem. So now I'm a big fan of there.

649
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: So I've never really gotten into the idea of cooking

650
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: on the weekends and then eating it during the week.

651
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: But the exception to that is stuff like you know,

652
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: grilling a lot on the weekend, Like you know, you

653
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: get the Costco sized pack of steaks and then you

654
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: grill all of them on the weekend, Like then you

655
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: have a protein you can cut up during the week.

656
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: You know, I work at home, so I I'm often

657
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: making my lunch, so I could just put those on

658
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: a salad or you know, cook it with veggies or something,

659
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: and then that solves my problem for the entire week,

660
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: which is which is really nice? So I would say

661
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: I would say a love of the week is Weagmans,

662
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: which again not sponsored anything on here. We go to

663
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: Costco and we go to Wagman's. And the one thing

664
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: I would say though with Costco is because they're getting

665
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: people to sort of sell specifically through that channel in

666
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: bulk sizes, you often wind up with more than you

667
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: need or else it's not you know, one thing speci difically,

668
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: Like you know, we get these giant bags of what

669
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: do we call it guy sauce, which is a squeezy

670
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: apple sauce. My three year old still calls them guy sauce,

671
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: which I just love. Everybody stops saying that that's gonna

672
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: be sad. But they come in all these they only

673
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: have the variety pack right, like they don't have like

674
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: in one specific flavor, whereas I feel like Wegmans has

675
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: bulk stuff in like one flavor or you know, bulk

676
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: meat of like one kind, and but it also has

677
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: normal size stuff too. So we've enjoyed shopping there when

678
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: when we can because because of that. So Tiffany, how

679
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: about you? Okay, my love of the week is Hamilton. Again.

680
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: I hope that is not useful to anyone. Hamilton's awesome.

681
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: I like it and we set in Chicago from maybe

682
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: a mile away. We were almost in the very back

683
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: balcony row about a year ago. I think it was

684
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: so good. But every once in a while on Spotify

685
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: I just cycle back to it and dive in deep again. Yeah,

686
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm a big Spotify lover. I'd love to listen to

687
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of things, but that just keeps coming up

688
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: for me. So that's awesome. And it goes down well

689
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: with cooking because you can blast it makes and I think, honestly,

690
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: that's a good tip there. If you know people are

691
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: coming home from work and are tired and like the

692
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: kids are cranky, and like, just put on some upbeat

693
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: music while cooking. It doesn't solve all the problems, but

694
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: it can at least make people feel slightly happier if they're, like,

695
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, dancing and singing to Katie Perry or something

696
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: while they're or halt. Absolutely, yeah, all right, well, thank

697
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: you so much, Tiffany. We really appreciate it. Thank you,

698
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: thanks for having me so Our Q and A this

699
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: week actually comes from an Instagram question. Someone direct messaged

700
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: me on our best of both words world's account, and

701
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: by the way, that is a way you can get

702
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: us as well for those who are more into Insta

703
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: than they are into their email or blog reading at

704
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: this point anyway, So they just wrote, I can see

705
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: you're a pool veteran living in Miami because I personally

706
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: had recently posted like a picture of Genevieve next to

707
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: the pool. It was cute, and she said she's a

708
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: little bit overwhelmed going in with three kids under five

709
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: this summer. Do I have any go to items to

710
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: pack for the pool? So I actually thought, Hey, that's

711
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: that's a good question. But then as I wrote it out,

712
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: I was like, is this all Captain obvious? Because I

713
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: don't feel like I have exactly I mean, maybe I'm minimal,

714
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: So Laura, you can add to this. I'm going to

715
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: tell her what I wrote back to her. So I

716
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: wrote enough towels, so and sometimes like sometimes usually i'll

717
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: like stick one like a bag that's like just our

718
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: towel bag that's going to be filled with like wet stuff.

719
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of our swim bag that I

720
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: bring sunscreen and bugspray, which are always in my diaper

721
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: backpack that I carry around anyway, I'll throw goggles and

722
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: swim caps into the towel bag. Swim caps only if

723
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: it's like somewhere you need it, change of clothes for

724
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: each kid, and pretty much I usually have a swim

725
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: diaper and a hat stuffed into my regular baby backpack,

726
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: so I don't have to think about packing them. And

727
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: that's about it. Sometimes depending on where we're going, like

728
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: a couple of non sun damage how do I say

729
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: the sun safe snacks like that the sun won't melt

730
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: and make a mess of so like crackers or lar

731
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: bars and then water that's like it. I don't pack

732
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: any of those like floaty type things for babies and toddlers.

733
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: I know some people love them. I actually like kind

734
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: of feel like they and maybe you love them, Laura,

735
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't like the idea that

736
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: they might train your two year old to think that

737
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: they can swim when they can't. I want them to

738
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: beware that they sink. So yeah, I don't pack like

739
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: hair stuff for anybody. I deal with the consequences later.

740
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't feel like dealing with it.

741
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't pack any reading material because that would be

742
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: just like a tease, like you were going to read

743
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: on the side of the pool. Haha. Yeah. I don't

744
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: really don't usually have a first aid kit, to be honest,

745
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: because usually you know, if you're somewhere public, they're going

746
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: to have one and you can always just go to

747
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: the bathroom and wash off. I just can't think of

748
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: things that you would need. Of course, you know, I'm lucky.

749
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a kid who needs like an EpiPen

750
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: or obviously if there was something like that, then that

751
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: would be specific. But yeah, what about you, do you

752
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: have a pool routine? Well, so, I mean we're one

753
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: of the reasons we bought our house here in Pennsylvania.

754
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: We liked I mean, well, we were going back and

755
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: forth on whether the pool was a good thing or

756
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: bad thing. I'm kind of feeling like it's a bad

757
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: thing at the moment this morning because we just had

758
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: this huge rainstorm that had like flash flooding. So now

759
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: there's mud in our pool and the cover broke, I think,

760
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: like shorted out, like they got water in the motor

761
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: just all. So it's going to be like a nine

762
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: hundred dollars repair because i know this happened to us before,

763
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, not you. You can

764
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: pay for a lot of public pool memberships for that. Yeah. No,

765
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: and we do have a pool too, I will add,

766
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: but but I also feel like one of the big

767
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: activities down here is like meeting at someone else's pool

768
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: or like going to a cool, big public pool or whatever. Anyway, Okay,

769
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: keep Yeah, So when we just walked down to our

770
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: backyard pool, we just have our goggles and our towels

771
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: because everything else is in the house. So that's really

772
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: not an issue. And that is an upside of it.

773
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: You know that you can just go in for like

774
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: twenty minutes after dinner some night and it's really just

775
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: not a big deal. Like you don't feel like you're

776
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: packing for this like invasion of a country sort of

777
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: level of stuff to head to the public pool. But

778
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: that said, we have a membership at our Why that

779
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: we like to go in the winter to go to

780
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: the pool. So we have a red bag that is

781
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: always the swim bag, and in the swim bag will

782
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: go six swim suits, like one for each of us,

783
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: four pairs of goggles for the four people who actually

784
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: use goggles, the three year old and I do not.

785
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: Then we put in usually just like three towels. I

786
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: generally feel like people can share a towel or else

787
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: can like, you know whatever, you can share a towel.

788
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: So I'm not packing six towels because that just wouldn't

789
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: fit in one bag. And then so we wear our

790
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: clothes to the Why. Obviously we have to like go

791
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: from the car to the Why in our winter clothes.

792
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: And so then we you know, leave the clothes in

793
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: the locker or stuff fat back in a bag or something,

794
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: and then go change there in the locker room, come

795
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: back out, you know, with our stuff, and that's all

796
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: we need, really, like all we have then is the swimsuits,

797
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: the goggles, the towels. So you know, because they have

798
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: a life jacket there that the why requires that anyone

799
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: who is not swim tested wear a life jacket? And

800
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: so the older three kids have all passed their deep

801
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: water swimming test, but the three year old obviously has not,

802
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: so he he wears a life jacket, and he wears

803
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: a life jacket in our home pool as well. We

804
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: have we have rules about this, just that you know,

805
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: he must have the life jacket on before the cover

806
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: is opened. In any way, there's also a fence around

807
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: the pool. You know, it's interesting to me and I

808
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: don't know, Sarah, like, this is a totally off tangent thing.

809
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: Do people ask you about like your pool being locked

810
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: and such when they before they do playdates. No, they don't,

811
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: and they probably. I mean that would be good our pool.

812
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: This is on air. I'm gonna get like laand basted

813
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: for this. It is locked. I mean, we have locks

814
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: on our doors that you have to open, and we

815
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: actually have you know, our alarm would go off if

816
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: someone were to open them, and we have ropes tied

817
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: around the doors. It would have to be cut for

818
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: our kids to open it by themselves. We do not

819
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: have a pool cover specifically, a lot of people down

820
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: here don't. Again, yes, people are going to. Aren't you

821
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: worried about like alligators getting into your pool or something

822
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: that if you don't have a copy about alliears. I'm

823
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: much more worried about the idea that someone could like,

824
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, walk outside and get to the to the pool.

825
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not and you know, really the only one

826
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: at this point that it would be really dangerous for

827
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: would be Genevieve. So we focus more on preventing the

828
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: ability from getting from our house to the pool, and

829
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: then there's a fence around obviously from the outside, like

830
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: you can't just get and then teaching children swimming skills

831
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: as soon as possible as well. Yeah, that is huge,

832
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: and we did hire you know, we had a coach come.

833
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Cameron learned by the time he was three he could

834
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: swim across the pool. I know some kids will go

835
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 1: even earlier than that. I cannot wait to get Genevie

836
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: you've trained sooner than later, because I actually feel the

837
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: more kids you have, like, the higher risk this does

838
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: become because it increases sort of the traffic back and forth.

839
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: So I have pretty strict rules, like I mean, I

840
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: still don't feel like i'd be I guess at this

841
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: point I could watch all three at once because Annibal

842
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: and Cameron can swim, but I'm not sure how often

843
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to do that without another adult present,

844
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: because I just feel like there's such I don't know,

845
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I need one eye on both of

846
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: the big kids and then full yeah, man to man. Yeah.

847
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: So well, once she can actually move, I mean right now,

848
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: it's fine. She doesn't go anywhere. Yeah, that's true. I mean,

849
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: once once I felt clear on the I mean, when

850
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: the older three have all passed the I mean, the

851
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: older two are on swim teams, so they're pretty good.

852
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: And then the you know, my daughter had actually just

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Speaker 1: And when he's got the life jacket on, he's pretty

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Speaker 1: past years, we've had to be much sort of more

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Speaker 1: We were talking about what you bring to the pool

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Speaker 1: and now it's going into the sort of a different thing.

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Speaker 1: But definitely swimming skills is one of those things that

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Speaker 1: you should get your kids to do soon. Just if

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Speaker 1: if your kids are going to go to pool parties

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Speaker 1: So definitely something to do. Totally agree. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: well this has been best of both worlds. We've mostly

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Speaker 1: next week with more on making work and life fit together.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the

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Speaker 1: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: and you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com.

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