1 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Cal's we Can Review with Ryan cal Callahan. 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: Now Here's Cal. Baltimore residents have been pulling strange stuff 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: out of the Patapsco River after the cargo ship disaster. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: A few weeks ago. While this story would normally be 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: outside our wheelhouse, I noticed a video on social media 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: showing what looked like a pile of deer hides floating 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: in the water. The videos creator said these hides had 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: been on the container ship, though our crack team of 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: investigators here at Cal's weekend Review has yet to been 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: able to verify these claims. I can tell you that 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: the container ship Chris and Dally was carrying about forty 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: seven hundred shipping containers when it destroyed Baltimore's Francis Scott 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: Key Bridge. It was headed from charm City, which, believe 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: it or not, is Baltimore's nickname to Sri Lanka, and 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: investigators found damage to at least thirteen containers on the ship. 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: It's unclear whether this damage resulted in deer hides being 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: ejected into the water or exactly where these hides came from, 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: but I'll bet you a buckskin that we can find 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: out this week, tiny fish legislation, and so much more. 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: But first I'm going to tell you about my week. 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: In my week, eh boy, we got a lot going on. 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: By the time you hear this, our Brush for Bucks 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: event with the fellas from Hush Mule Deer Foundation and 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: Idaho Fish and Game will all be wrapped up. Habitat 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: is what makes the world go around, and the destruction 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: of America's grasslands, of which the sage rush ecosystem is 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: a part, is kicking our butts. We have let the 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: lesser prairie chicken get listed on our watch. The greater 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: sage grouse could be next, and all they need is 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: native habitat, big chunks and native habitat habitat which also 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: happens to grow big, old, gnarly mule deer bucks. So 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: thanks to everyone for showing up. We'll do it again 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: next year. I hope you come out and join us. 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: It is fulfilling work. Next on the spring hit list, 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: Meat Eaters Auction House Oddities found at the meeater dot 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: Com is coming to a close. If you're listening to 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: this on Monday, it's going to close on Tuesday. Or 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: raising cash for corner crossing legal defense. And again, when 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: we win this one and probably the next one at 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, will have solidified the fact that taking 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: a step from one piece of public land onto the 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: next piece of public land is obviously legal. Eight million 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: acres are currently behind a footsteps worth of corner crossing. 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: So buy something. Please team up with a buddy. It's 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: going to a good cause. Uh what else here? BHA 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: rendezvous is coming up? Hot? This one is in Minneapolis. 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: I'm a hot dish. I was just talking with a 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: friend who asked, well, why would I go? Here's your answer. 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: You get a hang out with a super diverse, awesome 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: group of people from around North America sometimes further. Those 52 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: folks all share common interests, they're young, they're energized, and 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: for the most part, real do it yourselfers. You get 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: a swap stories, tips, tricks, and you may just come 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: away with a new hunting partner, fishing partner, a place 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 2: to go. On top of that, you get to see 57 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: under the hood of back country hunters and anglers what 58 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: it is we do, what we're working on and why, 59 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: and how you can effectively advocate for wild places, wild critters, 60 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: access and make sure that stuff is around for decades 61 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: and decades to come. On top of that, there's great food, 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: breweries and so much more. Buy tickets now. We're also 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: gonna do a round of Meat Eater Trivia hosted by 64 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: Randall Williams Friday Night at Rendezvous after the famous Hal 65 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: Herrings podcast, so get there for that too. Mark Kennan 66 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: will be there. We're gonna get in deep on a 67 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: lot of the topics that we cover here on the show. 68 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna be great, so check that out. After that, 69 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: it's onto DC for the TRCP Capital Conservation Awards Dinner, 70 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: where this year Room Map and I are hosting. And 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: Rue runs a super awesome nonprofit called Outdoor Afro. Outdoor 72 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: Afro celebrates and inspires Black connections and leadership and nature. 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: It's a national nonprofit that reconnects Black people to lands, water, 74 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: wildlife through outdoor education, recreation and conservation. They do a 75 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: bunch of stuff, host year round activities fishing, hiking, biking, kayaking, gardening, skiing, 76 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: and a ton more. Rue's a super super smart lady, 77 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: and on top of that, she's a real class act, 78 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: classy dresser. So I'm a little nervous to have to 79 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: stand up there next tour because my wardrobe is a 80 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: little country bumpkin, but honored to be up there standing 81 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: next tour and hosting TRCP where they get a ton 82 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: of awesome stuff done up there at the federal level. 83 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: Then after that brutal plane ride home, I'm finally gonna 84 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: hunt turkeys and I'm really really looking forward to it. 85 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: Get a weekend of hunting turkeys in and then put 86 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: my butt on the old Meat Eater Tour bus. As 87 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: you know, we have a Meat Eater Live tour happening 88 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 2: in this spring, and you know we're setting our sites 89 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 2: on exotic locales such as Mesa, Arizona, April twenty third, 90 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: San Diego, California, April twenty fourth, Anaheim, California, April twenty five, 91 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: Sacramento April twenty seven, Salt Lake City April twenty nine, 92 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: which is, you know, sorry, California friends, that's the Salt 93 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: Lake Shows where I'm joining up on the tour. Then 94 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: on to Boise at the Egyptian Missoula Spokane. That's Missoula, Montana, Spokane, Washington, Portland, Oregon, Tacoma, 95 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: Washington at the Pantagios and then then on home for 96 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: some real serious turkey hunting. Can be all cooped up, 97 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: so watch out Montana turkeys. And I just want to 98 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: let you know because they had this conversation with a 99 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: buddy of mine in Missoula and he was like, oh 100 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: my god, tickets are so expensive. I think they're expensive too, 101 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: but we just added an option to where you can 102 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: get on there and get a ticket to see the 103 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: show without the cookbook. And you know, the cookbooks are expensive. 104 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: This one's super awesome, great imagery and everything, but all 105 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: those great things about it make it more expensive. So 106 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: if you checked in your little sticker shocked, I get 107 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: it now, you can go on there and find a 108 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: ticket Sam's cookbook. On top of that, when I was 109 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: doing my own digging around on prices, I got to 110 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: tell you, if they seem absurdly overpriced, make sure that 111 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: you're going to either the venue itself, like you know, 112 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: Pantagious Theater that website for whatever theater that you're trying 113 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: to go to, or find that website through the meateater 114 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: dot com events pay because there's third party vendors out 115 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: there that are selling tickets now and they are just 116 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: curl your toes type of expensive. So if it seems crazy, 117 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: like I said, by direct from the venue or you know, 118 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: the other thing you can do, which you should do anyway, 119 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: because it's a lot of fun and you meet good 120 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: folks and you can learn about again all the good 121 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: things that BHA does in your local area. Back huntry 122 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: hunters and anglers are hosting pint nights prior to the 123 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: live tour dates in a bunch of these areas, and 124 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: you can win tickets to the show there, so that's 125 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: pretty cool anyway, Moving on to the tiny fish desk. 126 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: If I told you an agricultural project was being put 127 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: on hold by a tiny endangered species of fish, you 128 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: might assume the fish was living in a stream threatened 129 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: by fertilizer runoff or dredge and fill projects, and sometimes 130 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: you'd be right. But I recently learned of a controversy 131 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: in southern California that turns that paradigm on its head. 132 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: Farmers in the Imperial Irrigation District east of San Diego 133 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: grow the majority of the nation's winter vegetables. They had 134 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: agreed to start a conservation program in April to scale 135 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: back the amount of water they draw from the Colorado River. 136 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: Conservationists are concerned that the Colorado River might be in 137 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: danger of drying up, and efforts are underway to make 138 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: sure that doesn't happen. But according to the Associated Press, 139 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: that water conservation project is being held up by another 140 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: conservation concern, the desert pupfish. The desert puff fish is 141 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: a species of bony fish about the size of a 142 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: credit card. Males are bright blue during the spawning season, 143 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: while females and juveniles are silver or tan. They've been 144 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: listed as endangered in California since nineteen eighty and on 145 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: the federal Endangered Species list since nineteen eighty six. The 146 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: problem is that these fish have decided to make a 147 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: home in the irrigation drains that divert runoff from farms 148 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: to a nearby lake called the Salt and Sea. Farmers 149 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: had agreed to turn off irrigation to feed crops like 150 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: alfalfa for sixty days during the summer, but environmentalists worry 151 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: that shutting off the water supply to the fields will 152 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: dry up the irrigation drains and threaten the already endangered 153 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: desert pupfish. This Ladies and jens. In case you're wondering 154 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: is what we refer to as a catch twenty two. 155 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: You want to save the water or the fish that 156 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: live in water. Conservation efforts have been put on hold 157 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: until at least June while the irrigation District works out 158 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: with the state and federal officials a way to monitor 159 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: the situation and save the fish. I assume this would 160 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: involve identifying whether fish are in a certain drain and 161 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: then relocating them if it looks like that drain is 162 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: drying up. According to the California Department of Fish and Wildlife, 163 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: there are various refuge ponds around the salt and sea 164 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: where these fish can be moved as insurance. Populations and 165 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: desert pupfish do have one thing going for them. They've 166 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: survived until now in part because they're tough. They can 167 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: survive in a wide range of water salinity and temperatures, 168 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: which allows them to live in habitats that are too 169 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: harsh for introduced species to exist. Hopefully, officials in southern 170 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: California can figure out a way to make sure these 171 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: fish water they live in are conserved well into the future. 172 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: Moving on to the pandemic desk, it seems like every 173 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: time we turn around, we're hearing more about animals that 174 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: aren't birds coming down with the bird flu, so much so, 175 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: in fact, somebody might just call it the flu. One 176 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: of the latest examples comes courtesy of UC Davis, where 177 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: researchers published a study last month that found bird flu 178 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: and marine mammals in South America, specifically, four sea lions 179 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: and a seal. Researchers found the dead animals at a 180 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: sea lion rookery in Argentina. Rookery is a place where 181 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: they hang out and have babies. The samples shared the 182 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: same mammal adaptation mutations that were previously detected in sea 183 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: lions in Peru and Chile, and in a human case 184 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: in Chile. Significantly, turns, the bird also had identical mutation 185 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: of the virus, which suggests that even though bird flu 186 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: has evolved to infect mammals, that same strain can still 187 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: affect birds as well. On top of that, Listener nick 188 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: Hart wrote in with the News that bird flu has 189 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: infected dairy cows in Texas, Kansas, and New Mexico. According 190 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: to a press release from the USDA, farmers in these 191 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: states noticed dead wild birds on their farms at the 192 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: same time that some of their older cows showed signs 193 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: of decreased lactation and low appetite. They submitted samples from 194 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: these cows to the USDA, and sure enough, they tested 195 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: positive for highly pathogenic avian influenza. Should you be worried 196 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: you'll catch the bird flu from a gallon of milk 197 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: you buy at the store right now? The answer is no, 198 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: According to the USDA quote. At this stage, there is 199 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: no concern about the safety of the commercial milk supply 200 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: or that this circumstance poses a risk to consumer health. 201 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: Dairies are required to send only milk from healthy animals 202 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: into processing for human consumption. Milk from impacted animals is 203 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: being diverted or destroyed so that it does not enter 204 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: the food supply. In addition, pasteurization has continually proven to 205 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: inactivate bacteria and viruses like influenza, and milk pasturization is 206 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: required for any milk entering interstate commerce. At this point, 207 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: the problem is also unlikely to impact the milk supply 208 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: or milk prices. Impacted cows get sick, but they don't die, 209 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: and milk loss from decreased lactation is too limited to 210 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: have a major impact on supply. Still, if you are 211 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 2: one of those folks who buys their milk raw from 212 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: the dairy, it might be worth having a conversation with 213 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: your milk dealer. Bird flu doesn't often infect humans, and 214 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: when it does, the symptoms are usually mild. But some 215 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: people have died from the disease, and right now it's 216 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: unclear whether the live virus can be transmitted through milk. 217 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: Moving on to the legislative desk, I want to start 218 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: this week's legislative news by highlighting a huge victory that 219 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: could not have been done without you in Kentucky. You 220 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: may remember a few weeks ago when we released a 221 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: special episode with Colonel Mike Abele of Kentucky BHA. Colonel 222 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: Mike told us about a bad bill that would have 223 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: moved the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources under 224 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: the Department of Agriculture. In addition, it would have shifted 225 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: the authority to appoint Fish and Wildlife Commissioners away from 226 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: the governor and to the Agriculture Commissioner. Well, I'm pleased 227 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: to report that even though that bill passed the Senate, 228 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: it's all but dead in the House. Colonel Mike spoke 229 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: with Speaker of the House, David Osborne, who told him 230 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: in no uncertain terms that they're not going to pass it. 231 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: That sentiment was echoed by the House committee appointed to 232 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: the bill. To everyone who contacted their Kentucky representatives, give 233 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: yourself a pat on the back. I have no doubt 234 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: that pressure from hunters and anglers made this victory possible, 235 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: and it goes to show what we can do when 236 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: we get all hands on deck. Also, big kudos goes 237 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: to the Kentucky BHA, the Congressional Sportsman's Foundation, and the 238 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: Sportsman's Alliance for organizing this effort, as well as Kentucky 239 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: Safari Club. Unfortunately, it wasn't all good news this week 240 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: on the legislative front. Listener Matthew Gamble wrote in to 241 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: tell me about a bill in Oklahoma that would allow 242 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: deer breeders to release so called CWD resistant deer into 243 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: the wild, the Chronic Wasting Disease Genetic Improvement Act. This 244 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: bill would create a pilot program to quote enhance the 245 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: genetic durability of Oklahoma deer against chronic wasting disease. This 246 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: bill is based on the scientifically dubious assumption that captive 247 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: deer breeders can breed deer that are resistant to CWD, which, 248 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: oddly enough, is you know where CWD comes from, captive 249 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: servid breeders. Deer breeders have latched onto this theory because 250 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: they want to save their jobs and they want to 251 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: counter the claim that they're the vectors for spreading the 252 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: disease across states like Texas and Oklahoma. They claim that, 253 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: rather than being part of the problem, deer breeders can 254 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: actually be the solution to CWD. But as Matthew points out, 255 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: these theories have not been thoroughly tested beyond a few 256 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: studies found by the deer breeders themselves. It's unclear whether 257 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: this kind of selective breeding would have other detrimental effects, 258 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: as almost all selective breeding usually does. This Oklahoma bill 259 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: HB three fours, six to two pass the House by 260 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: a wide margin and is headed for the Senate. This is, 261 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: i'm sorry, shocking to me because deer do not recognize 262 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: state lines, So for Oklahoma to decide that they can 263 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: captively breed and then release into the general public genetically 264 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: selective deer is nuts to me. All the neighboring states 265 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: should be weighing in on this in Oklahoma. Moving on 266 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: to Minnesota, several of you wrote in about this bill 267 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: that would transfer ownership of a large state forest to 268 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: a Native American tribe and potentially close access to the 269 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: state's largest natural freshwater lake. The Upper and Lower Red 270 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: Lake cover four hundred and forty square miles in northern Minnesota. 271 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: The Lower Red Lake is entirely within the boundaries of 272 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: the Red Lake Reservation, but the Upper Red Lake is 273 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: still accessible to non tribal residents. It's a popular walleye 274 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: fishing destination, and the fishery is a big part of 275 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: the local economy. The southeast portion of the lake is 276 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: also surround by the eighty four thousand acre Red Lake 277 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: State Forest. The bill, numbered SF five zero eight zero, 278 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: would transfer ownership of this state forest to the Red 279 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: Lake Band of the Chippewa Indians. It would also give 280 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: the tribe a one mile border around the Upper Red 281 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: Lake currently in state ownership. It's unclear exactly what kinds 282 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: of access restrictions the tribe would impose, if any, but 283 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: it's safe to say that Minnesota hunters and anglers are concerned. 284 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: Listener Mitchell Nissler told me, quote, I grew up around 285 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: this area hunting and fishing on these lands and do 286 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: hope to continue to do so in the future. This 287 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: bill would completely remove this economy that drives a lot 288 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: of the small towns around where I grew up in 289 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: northern Minnesota. This bill has been introduced in the Senate 290 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: and is in front of the Environment, Climate, and Legacy Commission. 291 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: Staying in Minnesota, the state legislature is still debating a 292 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: bill that would eliminate shotgun only hunting zones and allow 293 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: hunting with any legal rifle anywhere in the state. This 294 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: bill is HF eight sixty four. If you want to 295 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: look it up and get in touch with your state legislators. 296 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: In Tennessee, one of the members of the Tennessee Fish 297 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: and Wildlife Commission proposed to change to the state's all 298 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: inclusive sportsman's license right now. This one hundred and sixty 299 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: five dollars license covers all hunting, trapping, and sport fishing 300 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: activities and allows holders to apply for quota of permits 301 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: at no additional fee. Commissioner Bill Cox said at a 302 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: recent meeting that he would like to see that license 303 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: cover fewer activities and special permits. 304 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: If you research all the other states that have sportment licenses, 305 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: then none of them cover like Tennessee does. And with 306 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: our current budget problem, and I hate to harp on money, 307 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: but that's kind of my job. We need everything we 308 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: can get as far as income to keep from having 309 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: to raise licenses prices. 310 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: If you live in Tennessee, this one you'll want to 311 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: keep on your radar. Thanks to listener Troy Jern again 312 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: for sending that one. In Wisconsin, Governor Tony Evers vetoed 313 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: four outdoor related bills this week, including one that would 314 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: have banned dough hunting in the northern portion of the state. 315 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: He said he objected to this bill because it would 316 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: have limited the ability of the state Department of Natural 317 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 2: Resources to respond to varying deer densities in different areas 318 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: of the northern forests. He called it a one size 319 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: fits all solution that also limits property owners from making 320 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: decisions to best manage their land and disregards public input 321 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: provided by a county deer advisory councils. Evers also vetoed 322 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: a bill that would have established a specific wolf population 323 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: goal in the state. Another bill that would have allowed 324 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: hound hunting from May one to June thirtieth, and yet 325 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: another one that would have only banned deer baiting in 326 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: a certain area if CWD is detected in wild free 327 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: roaming animals. The legislature could theoretically override these vetos, but 328 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: it would have taken a two thirds supermajority vote. Right now, 329 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: Republicans hold a two thirds majority in the Senate, but 330 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: they're a few votes shy in the Assembly. All four 331 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: bills were proposed by Republicans and passed mostly along party lines. 332 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: Well end today's legislation desk in New Mexico, where a 333 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: newly appointed Game Commissioner is calling for a discussion of 334 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: the state's ELK private lands use system, commonly referred to 335 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: as E plus. Under the E plus system, the state 336 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: gives ELK permit authorizations to landowners, who often turn around 337 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: and sell these permits on the open market. As we 338 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: covered back in twenty twenty two, this means that a 339 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: large percentage of ELK tags in New Mexico end up 340 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: being too pricey for a lot of hunters. This is 341 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: understandably a very popular program among landowners, and the Game 342 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: Commission has for many years resisted calls to modify the system. 343 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: One common critique is that while most licenses issued through 344 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: e plus restrict hunting to the landowner's property, others allow 345 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: hunting on public lands. Basically, you have a landowner property 346 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: tag and then you have a landowner unit wide tag, 347 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: and the unit wide tag is just that it's unit wide, 348 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: so it can be on public property as well. Critics 349 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: say this essentially privatizes what should be a public resource. 350 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: This issue is back in the news because one of 351 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: the newest Game Commissioners, Sabrina Pack, said she would like 352 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: to take comments on e plus at an April nineteenth 353 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: Commission meeting in Silver City. CHERSEYO Lopez, vice Chair of 354 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: the Game Commission, has said that he agrees with Pack's suggestion, 355 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: so we'll see if that moves forward. New Mexicans, this 356 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: is your time to weigh in, and you should, because man, 357 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: if you're a resident of New Mexico, you're getting host 358 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: plain and simple. These tags going out on the open 359 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: market are technically available to everybody, but there is a 360 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: big piece of the elk pie meant for residents that 361 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: are going to non residents with deeper pocketbooks, So speak up. 362 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: Moving on to the accident desk, a young father and 363 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: his four year old son died last week in a 364 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: tragic fishing accident along the Tennessee River. A thirty one 365 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: year old Ryan Tucker and his son Michael could frequently 366 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: be found casting a line in the river in Perry County, 367 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: but when their family didn't hear from them all day 368 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: last Tuesday, they became worried. Not long after, an employee 369 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: at a nearby gravel company spotted Michael's body in the river. 370 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: Authorities launched a search for Ryan, and they found his 371 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: body floating in the water a short time later. Well 372 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 2: never know exactly what happened, but authorities say this isn't 373 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: the first time people have drowned in the area when 374 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: they're fishing. There are signs there that say no trespassing 375 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: and employees only, but the Perry County Sheriff told local 376 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: media that people frequently ignore those signs. The banks are 377 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: surrounded by stacks of gravel, and if one of those 378 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: stacks starts to slide into the river, anglers can get 379 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: swept in with it. The current can also be unpredictable, 380 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: so getting out of the water can be extremely difficult. 381 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: Authorities found Ryan's truck parked nearby, along with evidence that 382 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: the pair were fishing. The family told local media they 383 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: believe Michael somehow fell into the river and Ryan drowned 384 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: trying to save them. There's a go fundme that will 385 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: put up on the ask Cat page that folks can 386 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: wade in and help as spring and summer fishing gets underway. 387 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: This is also a good reminder to stay safe out there. 388 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: There are no great estimates for how many recreational anglers 389 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: die every year in the US. A recent report that 390 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 2: about one hundred thousand people I annually die fishing worldwide, 391 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: but those stats also include commercial fishermen doing especially dangerous 392 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: jobs like diving for lobster. The Coast Guard reporter in 393 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two that there were six hundred and thirty 394 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 2: six recreational boating fatalities that year, but that includes all 395 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: boating fatalities, not just anglers. Still, by comparison to hunting, 396 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: which only sees about one hundred fatal accidents per year, 397 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 2: it's safe to say that fishing isn't without risk. Still 398 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: pretty safe in the grand scheme of things, but anytime 399 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: you're dealing with boats large bodies of water, there's every 400 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: reason in the world to be cautious. Know how to 401 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: swim where a life vest, don't enter areas with warning signs, 402 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: be conscious of tides and floods. All of these simple 403 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: precautions can ensure that once you catch your limit, you're 404 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 2: able to go home and enjoy those fish with your family. 405 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: Now Here in Montana, what gets people every year is 406 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: our runoff. Right, the snow out that becomes the water 407 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: in the spring is extremely cold and it can stay 408 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: cold for a long time. So when we get those 409 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: first ninety degree days and it's gorgeous and sunny and 410 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: people want to be out recreating, they underestimate the temperature 411 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: of that water, how fast it's moving, and the volume. Right, 412 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: Like the last time their skinny butts were in the water, 413 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: it was August and it was hot. The water was 414 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: low and slow. Now it's hot and the water's cold 415 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: and fast. So if you ever get a hanker in 416 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: to do it, a absolutely phenomenal thing that you could 417 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: go do is go get a swift Water Rescue Technician certification. 418 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: It's a phenomenal class where you actually get to go 419 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: swim in that high, rageing water and feel the real 420 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: force of runoff time and its eye opening. So as 421 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 2: per usual. The resources are out there, you just got 422 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: to go find them. Moving on to the mail bag, 423 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: I was looking in the ask cal inbox this week 424 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: when I noticed email from Zillo. Zillo is one of 425 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: those real estate listing websites, and the message seemed odd 426 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: because we're not looking to move the international World headquarters 427 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: of Cows. We can review anytime soon. When I clicked 428 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: on the email, I saw it was actually from a 429 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: listener named Mike. He'd used Zilo's platform to send me 430 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: a property listing on the Wabasas Lake in Michigan's Lower Peninsula. 431 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: The listing included an image showing a likely spot to 432 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: build a house, along with an arrow pointing out quote 433 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: to your private lake. The so called private lake in 434 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: question was very much connected to a larger Wabasas Lake 435 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: with an obvious channel. In fact, Mike explained that he 436 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: gets in there with the John boat every spring. Sorry 437 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: to blow up that fact for you there, Mike. Now, 438 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: whether it's due to ignorance of the agent or the seller, 439 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: or annoying attempt to increase the property's value, this kind 440 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: of thing is super super common in real estate listings. 441 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: I advised Mike to get in touch with whoever manages 442 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: the lake, most likely the state Department of Natural Resources 443 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 2: asked them to confirm the this portion of the lake 444 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: is public water. Then contact the seller's agent directly and 445 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: get them to amend the listing. The last thing you 446 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: want to do is have a conflict with the new 447 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: owner the next time you're out there slaying walleye. It's 448 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: best to nip this in the bud. And I think 449 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: Mike is on the right track here. I've seen a 450 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: lot of listings like this. If you've ever seen questionable 451 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: listings like the ones we just talked about, send them 452 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: on over to ask Health the meeteater dot com. That's 453 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: all I got for you this week. Thank you so 454 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: much for listening, and remember to write in ask c 455 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: Al that's Askcal, a themeeteater dot com, and let us 456 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: know what's going on in your neck of the woods. 457 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: You know, we really enjoy it. Thanks again, and I'll 458 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: talk to you next week.