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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, the alternative rock of football podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal in a virtual room filled with a hero.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's with me on a show unlike any other. Mark,

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Speaker 1: We've never done a mini post Christmas recap. I hope

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Speaker 1: your Christmas was great. Consider this like the Heat and

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Speaker 1: Light podcast, except it's like the Cold and Dark podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's very there's a very similar vibe to that show. Um,

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Speaker 1: and what we're about to bring to the listener right now.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had a good Christmas too. We texted

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Speaker 1: a little bit late at night. Um, there was NonStop

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Speaker 1: football starting here on the West Coast at ten am

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Speaker 1: until deep into the evening. And I think that's how

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Speaker 1: the NFL wants it. It was a lot of football.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be like that every year. It is

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Speaker 1: rare that I guess Christmas will fall on a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I did go back. I noticed last time it was

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday, it was two games though, so they

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Speaker 1: did push it a little farther In seven years. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to the podcast when there's seven games on

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Speaker 1: Christmas Sunday. Yeah, Justin Graver also with us. Dan uh

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Speaker 1: is sitting this one out, and Uh we'll be back

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Speaker 1: with Dan on our regular least scheduled Tuesday show. I

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Speaker 1: hope everyone out there had a great Christmas, including you,

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Speaker 1: Justin and Uh. Let's get to the first game. Let's

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Speaker 1: start in the a f C where the biggest games

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Speaker 1: were really played. I think the best game that we

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Speaker 1: haven't covered. We have Christmas Eve to cover and the

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Speaker 1: three Christmas games. The best of those games was played

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Speaker 1: in Miami. Chucking down and six now for Miami. The

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Speaker 1: thirty one yard line of the Dolphins, snap two and

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Speaker 1: looking running Peza right side, Sucker, Sucker pro souls Douglas

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Speaker 1: and there is your Tucker. The Packers defense coming through

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Speaker 1: in a big spot out of nowhere to twenty. That

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Speaker 1: was to a tongue of Viola's third interception of the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter alone. My god, what a mountdown after the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins raced out to a twenty to ten lead, had

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Speaker 1: a chance to go up even bigger before halftime, and

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Speaker 1: then it all fell apart in the second half mark.

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Speaker 1: The Packers are alive in the playoff race, and the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins let you down because I know you wanted the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins to win this game, right, you know what I

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Speaker 1: want to see was just the Dolphins kind of um

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Speaker 1: proved that the last the troubles they encountered over the

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Speaker 1: last you know, three three plus weeks outside of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo showing were a typical of them, that they aren't

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Speaker 1: that team that they had that they had a chance to,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a young in a young system, first

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Speaker 1: year head coach, come back and show they were the

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Speaker 1: team from the early part of the season. I mean, instead,

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Speaker 1: it keeps Green Bay completely alive, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is a very different Packers team then I feel like

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Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, weeks ago, they've kind of

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Speaker 1: changed themselves, especially on defense. But um, the narrative around

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Speaker 1: to Uh, I think it's really fair just to look

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Speaker 1: at his body of work over the last you know,

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Speaker 1: of questions about to like he was in the perfect environment,

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Speaker 1: the perfect scheme, and you know, like they didn't use

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Speaker 1: the Packers didn't use a ton of man to man

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Speaker 1: coverage the same way that we saw early on with

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Speaker 1: the Niners game and then against the Chargers it was

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Speaker 1: He seemed to sort of lost to me. I thought

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Speaker 1: all three of his picks were really on him. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't one of these situations where if you watch it,

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Speaker 1: it's bouncing off of two people. He admitted each of

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Speaker 1: it and it's sabotage the Dolphins, who really had no

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Speaker 1: business losing this game with all the big plays they

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy yards at halftime. The Dolphins, I

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Speaker 1: And two it was playing great. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: And they were up twenty to ten, and the defense

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Speaker 1: just did not show much poise. But they recovered that fumble,

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Speaker 1: they kicked the field goal on that drive UH and

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Speaker 1: the Packers seemed like they had no answer. They forced

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Speaker 1: it's only seven points, and then the second half defensively

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Speaker 1: was totally opposite. This is a major league concerning game.

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Speaker 1: For two, We'll get to green Bay quickly, and we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna like make this an hour long show. Mark.

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Speaker 1: I know you don't want it, but I do think

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Speaker 1: the one thing about green Bay that that felt to

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Speaker 1: me like they Aaron Rodgers for all the little items

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Speaker 1: seems locked in on the fact that like their playoff

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Speaker 1: chances are real right now. He mentioned it over and over.

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Speaker 1: Everything went right on Saturday for green Bay, and I

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Speaker 1: thought they approached this game where they kind of win

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Speaker 1: That could have been like a backbreaking kind of situational

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Speaker 1: very aggressive. Aaron Rodgers didn't look perfect to me, Um,

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Speaker 1: he made just enough throws. I think you lose. We

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Speaker 1: was weird because they actually weren't unbelievable offensively. Off all

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Speaker 1: of you hit a bunch of them, and he missed

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Speaker 1: also something that, um, you know, every quarterback really goes through.

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Speaker 1: regard because you can't you can't let past influence the present. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you know, there could be something

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Speaker 1: It's just that this team UM needs him. It's a

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Speaker 1: But UM, I am that person though. But that that uh,

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Speaker 1: kind of saying, like, yeah, I am a little concerned.

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Speaker 1: That was a question about to his confidence specifically, Well,

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Speaker 1: have called he was wondering if he called the wrong

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Speaker 1: play which is you know, that's a concerning thing, December.

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Speaker 1: I don't know for a quarterback, if that just stuff

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Speaker 1: happens here and there, I would imagine it doesn't you

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Speaker 1: he was asking himself a year ago, do I suck

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Speaker 1: at this? Like? I mean, I think there is um,

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Speaker 1: maybe not a steel confidence there with him. In Secondly,

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Speaker 1: helped by Tyreek Hill and Jail and wild just like

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Speaker 1: pointed the Cats stuff where it's like if he had

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Speaker 1: been elevated by that, and teams have figured him out

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Speaker 1: to some degree. I think there's a competence thing going on,

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Speaker 1: and like Mike McDaniel sounds a little down there. They've

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Speaker 1: got the Patriots on the road and then they've got

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Speaker 1: So their their path to the playoffs, which seemed assured,

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Speaker 1: is in hot water right now. Right they've lost fourth straight,

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Speaker 1: they're still in good position. You win those two games

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Speaker 1: have a decent chance. But there's a whole mess of

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Speaker 1: board by suck Up? Is it good? It's good, It's

432
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's good. Have the Bucks beat the Arizona

433
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: Carginals in overtire? Buccaneers beat Arizona Anot. Tom Brady engineers

434
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: an overtime drive that gets into the range of Ryot

435
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: suck Up, who just made his fourth deel goal of

436
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: the game. Now the Bucketeers win nineteen to sixteen. Oh

437
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: Geen Decker half. Even Jean didn't give like a full

438
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: throated this is a miracle victory on Christmas. He knew

439
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: this was a weird game. A nineteen to sixteen overtime

440
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: victory for the Bucks. That's that was on w f

441
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: U S Dave Moore also involved, and uh, they're making

442
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: people work extra on Christmas Mark they're playing extra football.

443
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: Tariko's there, Collinsworth is there, and the Bucks are just

444
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: replaying the same game that they play all season, making

445
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: a ten point come back in the fourth quarter to

446
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: narrowly be one of the worst teams in the league.

447
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: They've done this exactly three times now, but get the victory. Yeah.

448
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the plan, but they are

449
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: following the blueprint UM over and over, and it's like

450
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you know, a turnover machine, completely asleep at

451
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: the wheel, with an offense that you know, lost another

452
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: Josh Wells it lost another tackle. He was already in

453
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: there for Donovan Smith. So they are compromised. I think

454
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: that affected what they even thought they could do on offense.

455
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: It turned into like just to get rid of the

456
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: ball kind of game for Brady. UM totally unproductive until

457
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: that overtime drive. I think hit six six straight throws

458
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: and you get another one of these um sort of

459
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: Brady esque patented last minute victories. I do feel like

460
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: this season, and maybe you know it's just a feeling,

461
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: but so many bad games have gone into overtime, not

462
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: good games going into overtime where that you want that,

463
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: But like I texted you, like late in the night,

464
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: you and Dan and Grave Digger thinking, are you seriously

465
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: taking this into more time? This game which I actually watched,

466
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: I might have been one of the twelve Americans that

467
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: watched this game, and uh, it was an unrewarding STU

468
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: late in the evening. I have to admit I did

469
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: catch up on this game after the fact, and yeah,

470
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: it was a lot of bad football. That's what Tom

471
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: Brady said earlier in the year when he watches football

472
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: around the league, a lot of bad ball. And most

473
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: of this weekend was about the weather. And there have

474
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun good teams, I think not

475
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: in the primetime games, but we keep getting these teams

476
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: like the Bucks and the Cardinals as repeat visitors, and

477
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: we've just seen this Bucks game before and it's kind

478
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: of like they keep doing the same thing. They have

479
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: these sequels to like what was not a great movie

480
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: in the first place, which was Bucks Rams. I think

481
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: that's really where this started, where they were absolutely terrible

482
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: and at the very end they go hurry up and

483
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: Brady wins the game after getting like seventeen chances to

484
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: win it. And now they're having like the sequels and

485
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: they're not like they're getting a little worse each time.

486
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: There was the Saints one that was that was a

487
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: crazy comeback, two touchdowns at the very end, and then

488
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: this one where it was against I believe, the worst

489
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: team in the league, and it just makes you wonder,

490
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: why do they have to wait till the very end

491
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: to go hurry up? There's such a better team when

492
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: they go hurry up. Brady had his best two throws

493
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: of the day in overtime that you mentioned, uh, two

494
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: really nice throws, one to Gauge and one to Mike Evans,

495
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: both outside throws it but the rest of the game

496
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: like he was off target, he missed throws. They were

497
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: out of sink on third and short. At one point,

498
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: they tried to run the ball three straight times on

499
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: second and one and could not get a yard. And

500
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: that's like what this season has felt like is just

501
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: like looking at Todd Bowles being like on the sideline, dumbfounded,

502
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: being like, man, I can't believe we can get a yard?

503
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: What's going on? But they never can get a yard. Yeah,

504
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: It's like I mean, if these are sequels, so they're

505
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 1: not exactly pack them in at the mall Um Fair.

506
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: But it does kind of leave me a bit mystified

507
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: with this whole journey with the Bucks because the whole

508
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: calling card coming in the reason that it would be

509
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: good to get Bruce Arians out of the mix um.

510
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: And again, I think we've said it all year. I

511
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: think there's a there's something missing without Bruce Arians playing

512
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: his old role. But it was meant to be a

513
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: positive because Tom Brady and Byron Leftwich could mind meld

514
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: um on a micro level during games and as the

515
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: as you know, forming the game plan. And they look

516
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: more lost than ever and they haven't adjusted the way

517
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: out of it, Like even from drive to drive, it

518
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: seems like all they're able to do is go out

519
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: and process things the same way and produce the same

520
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: sort of milk toast results. It's like, is where's Brady

521
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: in this? Like where's left Which in this? And why

522
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: are they still in these issues um post Christmas. I

523
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: find it really strange for that kind of quarterback after

524
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: what we know about Brady. Well, because I think it's

525
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: it's everyone. It's such a team sport. I mean, Mike

526
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: Evans had one catch for five yards until the very

527
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: end of this game, he had six targets. He ends

528
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: up making a catch or two of it. It's like

529
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: they have a million different problems and Brady is one

530
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: of them. Like the two intercept He's not used to

531
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: throwing interceptions, and he threw two in this game. Both

532
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: were on him. One he just kind of threw up

533
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: right because he was about to get hit, and then

534
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: the other one he was like really late on an

535
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: open receiver and that got picked off by Marco Wilson.

536
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: And I was like totally on Brady, and we sound

537
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: so negative. They did win the game, they set up, uh,

538
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, a winning in scenario for themselves next week

539
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: against the Panthers. The Bucks clinched the NFC South with

540
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: with a win next week, but if they lose that game,

541
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: the Panthers have control going into Week eighteen. And my

542
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: feeling watching this Mark was I I have I have

543
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: given up. I'm sure everyone else has too in terms

544
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: of them like having the light switch on. But I

545
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: kind of feel like they're a little bit like the

546
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: Patriots and that they just are asking to be put

547
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: out of their misery. And you know, spoiler alert, I'm

548
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: picking the Panthers this week. I I don't know if

549
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: the Panthers can close it out and win two straight,

550
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: because the Bucks will still have a chance to win

551
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: the division even if they lose in week seventeen if

552
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: the Bucks. If the Panthers then blow it in week

553
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: eighteen and the Bucks win, they're all division games. So like,

554
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: the Panthers do not clinch the division by winning this

555
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: next game. But this feels like a team that's not

556
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: having fun and it needs to be put out of

557
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: their misery quickly. I'm just gonna throw to a Tom

558
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: Brady sound because I think I think the way he

559
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: sounded after the game sums up what I'm talking about.

560
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: Defense really stepped up. This is a great way to uh,

561
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, down ten on the fourth court on the road.

562
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: It's a great final way to win. What's going on here?

563
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: Is he? Okay? I don't know. I listened to this.

564
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: He sounded so old. He does not sound enthused. I

565
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: will note that the Panthers um when they played the

566
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: Bucks um the first time more towards the middle of

567
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: the season, did run for a hundred and seventy three yards.

568
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: I think this Panthers team, when they get weird and

569
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: when the ground game is working as it has, and

570
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: when it's exploded a couple of weeks like you could

571
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: compromise the Bucks because I just don't see them really

572
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: able to put up more than sixteen seventeen points. And

573
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: the Panthers defense has been solid for the past month. Yeah,

574
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later in the week. And you're right,

575
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: the Bucks run defense isn't quite the same shot. You know.

576
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: Credit to uh, your guy Trace McSorley. He he fought,

577
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: he almost got it done. They were up ten in

578
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: the fourth. He had a thrower too. He he has

579
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: a big arm. I was rise by that. Unlike that,

580
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Hail Mary and a couple of things. J. J. Watt

581
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: played great. Their defense has been playing hard, but it

582
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. What a painful season for the Cardinals to

583
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: like go through all these different ways to lose painfully

584
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: in prime time, kind of like the Raider season, but

585
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: in in a different even more pathetic way. We can

586
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: talk Bucks later in the week. But finally let's get

587
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: to the final game we're gonna cover. That was the

588
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: Christmas afternoon game Broncos and Rams in l A. Rams

589
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: have three takeaways on the day, all of them interceptions.

590
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: Can they get a fourth down? Stop on downs and

591
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: cement this week? Sixteen hit time, ripping, hassle Rams rush

592
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: fourth row goes to the right side, hits intercepted the

593
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: fifth team. Tommy Durrance down a sideline fifty forty thirty

594
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: all Gas, no Craikes touchdowns. Tommy Durrance to cements a

595
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: Christmas game win to the Los Angeles Rams. I love it.

596
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: We're getting bogos on a Monday morning. I didn't even

597
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: know that was possible. I do love hearing our friend

598
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: j belong Uh with KSPN. Get to hear him having

599
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: fun and man, this was fun for Rams fans and

600
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: Rams announcers. Kobe Durant there, yeah, with the eighty five

601
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: yard interception. He had two interceptions on the day of

602
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: the three that Russell Wilson through. It was crazy. It

603
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: was fifty one to four Rams. It was like thirty

604
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: one to six early in the second quarter, This thing

605
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: was absolutely insane and I couldn't have been the only

606
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: one Mark that watched this and thought, oh man, I

607
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna wait to the end of

608
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: the season to fire Nathaniel Hackett. Now, and as we're taping, justin,

609
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: we got some breaking news here. Let's hit it. Yeah,

610
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: the Nathaniel Hackett era is over. The Broncos announced their

611
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: coach has been fired after only fifteen games. Sad way

612
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: to go out and we can talk this game a

613
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: little bit in a minute. Give the rams and oh

614
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: that was banned. We're not giving any flowers. Beat that

615
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: out justin. Uh, but let's talk hack it. It's over

616
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: for Hackett. That's that's the bigger news now. Yeah, it

617
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: was inevitable, and I think this is the kind of

618
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: late season game where, um, you know, any coach in

619
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: his position, this is sort of the everyone gets at

620
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: the exclamation point, Uh, floor falls out. Russell Wilson, who

621
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: you came in to develop, I mean kind of everything

622
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: that Hackett, who you know, understandably seems like an engaging

623
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: personality and like a likable dude. There's no It's not

624
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: really like Mike Zimmer burning out because of your personality

625
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: situation here. It's just that what was your calling card.

626
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in and flip the switch on Russell Wilson,

627
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: the most exciting quarterback higher of the entire offseason, and

628
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Denver's sort of hope and hope and pride for the future,

629
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: looking like the worst quarterback in the league. UM looking

630
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: as loss as ever, which has been um consistent all

631
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: year long. There were those reports that he was calling

632
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: out Seahawks uh, you know, audibles at the line. It

633
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: just seems like he's never really um understood what's going

634
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: on in this offense. UM that that extends to everyone else.

635
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: And then the defense, which you've wasted entire year on,

636
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: absolutely like crumbled yesterday. And I think it's use You're

637
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of like flare ups on the sideline,

638
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of lack of accountability, UM in house issues.

639
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: There were all the actual game situation issues early in

640
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: the year, and it's like Hack, it seems completely underwater

641
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: and in control of none of it. So what as

642
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: a head coach are you're offering at that point? UM?

643
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a bit of Peter principle for some

644
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: of these play callers, Like you're kind of meant to

645
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: stay at the play call level head coaches for a

646
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: different type of personality and different type of I guess

647
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, ability to control a varied group of individuals,

648
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: and the Broncos have seemed out of control since the

649
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: word go. Yeah, it gives the team a chance to

650
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: get a headstart and the rest of the league. In

651
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: theory if depending on who they wanted to hire, if

652
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: if they wanted to go non NFL, you know, they

653
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: could start that process right now. It's a little more

654
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: complicated if you're just trying to hire NFL assistance. They

655
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: did announced George Peyton the GM will remain with the

656
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: team and lead the coaching search along with ownership. There

657
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: was yeah the owner George Penner had that and yeah,

658
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: when you when you lose like that, it felt like

659
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: the defense led by their coordinator as zero ever o

660
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Graver check check for me if we know who the

661
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: interim coach is gonna be. While we're recording this is

662
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: all happening, but I'll continue on it. It felt like

663
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: this was the game where like both sides just kind

664
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: of gave up and Sean McVeigh, who had everro on

665
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: his staff for a long time with the Rams. He

666
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: was in, you know, a defensive assistant with the Rams forever.

667
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: It's like he somehow knew exactly what to do, and um,

668
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: it's putting them out of their misery. And yeah, this

669
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: was a Christmas game where one member related to the

670
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: Walmart uh clan dynasty, Stan Cronkey, who married into it,

671
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: who's the owner of the Rams, was going against another

672
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: um couple of members of the Walmart money and apparently

673
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: they were like seeing like hugging, you know, before the

674
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: game or saying hi, they're they're related through cousins and

675
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And uh, I think when you lose

676
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: like that on what's probably one of the most watched

677
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: games of the year, you lose to a four and

678
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: ten team fifty one to fourteen, the worst offense in

679
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: the league like that, I don't care who you are,

680
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: how new you are to the league. That had to

681
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: be so embarrassing that they were just like figuring out

682
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: what the statement was going to be this morning, like

683
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: during that game and just that it was over for Hacket.

684
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: That's sad. What a what a touching tail like? Um,

685
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, even the losing billionaire ownership teams still floating

686
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: away and they're like cream colored Porsche is before deciding

687
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: to fire the coaching stuff. I mean, it is, it's

688
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: a tough it's a tough business. It is. It is.

689
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: They get paid a lot, but it is a tough business.

690
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: How how do you like? Honest question? Because I think

691
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: like this didn't cut out the cancer for Denver at all.

692
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: The cancer is the quarterback in the quarterback contract. Like,

693
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: I really am interested to see which coach um thinks

694
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: they can come in and fix this. They're saddled with this,

695
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to have immense belief that the

696
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: fact that all of what we've seen about Russell Wilson

697
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with him actually just becoming a

698
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: bad quarterback, that it's totally fixable. I don't I don't think.

699
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: I think you're you're looking at No one's gonna no

700
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: one's gonna think that that it's all on Hackett. This

701
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: is the move sort of they had to make. I'm

702
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: with you, we'll talk about it in the coming weeks.

703
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: That everyone saying that you have to keep Russell Wilson,

704
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: that he has all this guaranteed money, that it's gonna

705
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: crush your cap Marcus shaking his head, and I saw

706
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: him uh with a really well worded tweet on Christmas

707
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Night saying that he doesn't he doesn't need that, he

708
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: doesn't need anyone convincing themselves it's gonna work with about Wilson,

709
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, I don't think they necessarily have

710
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: to do it. I think there is an argument for

711
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: taking all the salary cap pain. Now. You could actually

712
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: make him a post June first cut and it would

713
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: only add seventeen million dollars to get rid of him

714
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: on next year's cap. And I think, like taking your

715
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: medicine if you're convinced the dude can't play, is actually

716
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: the better move. And in Sunday's game was maybe the

717
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: worst he's played all year. The interceptions were just we're

718
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: just ghass lee. There was one clip someone showed on

719
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: the All twenty two on his third interception where Sutton

720
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: is on the sideline wide open for a first down,

721
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: and he's like literally waving at Russell. Wilson waving, waving, waving,

722
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: and on the broadcast, Tony Romo points out, oh, he

723
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: could have run for twenty yards for the first time,

724
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: but instead Russell Wilson's like trying to be a hero

725
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: and he throws it deep and while the balls in

726
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: the air, Courtland Sutton doesn't even look to see what happens.

727
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: He just starts jumping up and down, upset and turning

728
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: to the sideline and walking away from the play as

729
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: if he's Steph Curry uh shooting the three and knowing

730
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna go in, Except in this case it was

731
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Courtland Sutton knew it was going to

732
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: be an interception, I guess, and just like walked off

733
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: the field and was so mad and it was an interception.

734
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: So I think that's like to your to your point

735
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: about my point, about your point about my point about

736
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: not sticking with Russell Wilson, is like this is a

737
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: there is a human element to this, and I think

738
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: it gets forgotten and all the metrics and all this

739
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: business that like this locker room is totally lost and

740
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: they're totally lost because they don't like Russell Wilson, I

741
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: don't think at all. And when you're not good and

742
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: you're unliked, like you got is more than anything. Well

743
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: that's that's it, all's all mixed together. But you don't

744
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: get a feeling like, you know what, we're watching this

745
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: guy that we've gone to war with that we love,

746
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: like fading. It's like this was your first experience with him.

747
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: He's been a mess the entire time, and like I

748
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: am of belief that you could. It's not. You can't

749
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: moneyball at like baseball, but you to your point, take

750
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: your medicine. You deal with the money part of it.

751
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: It's one a one year situation. It's not that different

752
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: in a different universe had they traded for like Geno

753
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: Smith instead, who would have cost a lot less on

754
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: a one year situation, and you get through it. You

755
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: might just get better results with a locker room that

756
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: is not from the word go with a new loss,

757
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: with a new coach ready to stage insurrection. I just

758
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: it's the only problem with it is they're keeping George Payton,

759
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: who made this trade, So you just get into like,

760
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: as he would he be willing to admit that mistake.

761
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Usually a move like that, it's hard to even say

762
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: usually because there's almost no precedent this. This is on

763
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: track to be, you know, one of the worst trades

764
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: in NFL history. It certainly has been. Now now their

765
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: draft pick, by the way, gets even worse. So Seahawks

766
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: fans were loving this Rams victory. They I saw a

767
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: couple on Twitter that, you know, the Seahawks are following apart,

768
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: but at least they're enjoying Russell Wilson blowing this pick.

769
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: I mean it was tough. It's why back in week

770
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 1: ten or eleven when the Broncos were only scoring seven

771
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: ten points in a game and people were like, oh,

772
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: the Broncos have hit bottom, and I We've done this

773
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: job long enough that it's like when they're seven or

774
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: eight weeks left with these bad teams, it's like, no,

775
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: there's some you can hit a lot more bottoms. And

776
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: this was truly bottom because the coach got fired. They

777
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: gave up a fifty burger on Christmas and Russell Wilson

778
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: got roasted by Patrick from SpongeBob. So there's rust wilsonption interception.

779
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: He said, that's what they call an interception, and I

780
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: mean he had a good line there too. Uh, that's

781
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: not what Russ wanted to cook and even mentioned that

782
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: Wagner was his teammates. I did flip over to the

783
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon broadcast for a little and they were having fun

784
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: over there. I think that was the probably the most

785
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: appropriate way to watch this game, more fun than Broncos fans.

786
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: I would say, like, you know where we were seven

787
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: weeks ago about mentioned where we were at the Broncos

788
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: like Sean McVeigh was in a dark place, Baker Mayfield

789
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: was being talked about like Russell Wilson. It's kind of

790
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: crazy what can happen to you in just a couple

791
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: of weeks, Because I think, if nothing else, Baker Mayfield proved,

792
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: like Anna Sean mcveighs system, if he's used right, he

793
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: can play, and he's totally a viable, very leading, almost

794
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: plugged in candidate to be their number two quarterback next season.

795
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: I think they want that. And McVeigh, who was you know,

796
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: we're a question if he's gonna even come back, and coach,

797
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, who knows what will happen

798
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: with that situation. But the last couple of weeks have

799
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: been a very different vibe around a Rams team that

800
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: it got real ugly there. Absolutely, I'm glad you pointed

801
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: it out, because even though I'm saying, like there's a

802
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: long time left in the season, you can always hit bottom.

803
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: You could have said that about the Rams too. Uh,

804
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: but they are going to feel better about themselves the

805
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: way they're ending this season. They've had their best couple

806
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: of games now in a three week span. Their competitive

807
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: cam Akers is running the ball really, really well, had

808
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty seven yards from scrimmage, three touchdowns,

809
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: just playing with a lot of juice. Mcveigh's showing that

810
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: he can be that coach again. Maybe give himself some confidence.

811
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: Baker finishes for two thirty and two touchdowns and yeah,

812
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: most of them, I think eighteen of those throws where

813
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: five yards or less. But he had a nice touchdown

814
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: versus the Blitz. He was very controlled. Tony Romo said,

815
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: how like under McVeigh, he's using to use his eyes

816
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: a little better in terms of not being as predetermined.

817
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: I saw him get to like his third read. He

818
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: just looked like a very competent quarterback. To me, this

819
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: was way more encouraging even than that Raiders. Uh come

820
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: back when and like other guys are stepping up for

821
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: the Rams, like Wagner as a leader and Hoy and

822
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: and just things. He can just feel better about. Putting

823
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: a fifty burger on feels good. No matter what your

824
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: record is. Yeah, they didn't waste their final four or

825
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: five games, which you see teams do nothing changes, you

826
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: don't grow like they've used at the develop younger players

827
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: find a backup that they can trust and I think

828
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: you're right. Gives Sean McVeigh a sense going into the

829
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: off season like I haven't lost my fastball here and

830
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: give their fans something. U all my daughter I'd asked

831
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: for for Christmas was a Rams win, and I know

832
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: that place wasn't like super Rocking. Yesterday, I texted our

833
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: our friend Jason Kleinman, who was there with his family. Perfect, perfect,

834
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: perfect Sunday for the Kleinman's. You go see a fifty burger.

835
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: Probably it's such a blot you can leave early. He was.

836
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: He told me he was right behind the Broncos sideline.

837
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: So he texted me about the fight that was happening

838
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: before I even heard about it on the broadcast. He

839
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: was like, they're arguing on the Broncos sideline. Someone just

840
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: pushed Brett Rippon and he was right, that was an

841
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and Brett ripping the backup quarterback. So he

842
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: gets he gets to enjoy that victory. JB. Long our

843
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: friend gets to enjoy it, and then you know, the

844
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: Klineman's come home and they celebrate Hanukah another night. Uh,

845
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: you know at night perfectly, just one bull's eye after

846
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: the next with the Kleineman family, all right, that this

847
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: is our closest thing to a bulls I hear Mark,

848
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: I think we did it the what did I call

849
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: it at the beginning of the show, the the Cold

850
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and Dark podcast The Dark and Cold podcasts. It's like

851
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: that sounds bad, though, HI had fun. I enjoyed it,

852
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: you know what I enjoyed? Uh. I think the broadcasters

853
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: yesterday try to have as much fun as they could,

854
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: including Jim Nance. I gave Jim Nance some credit for

855
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: being as Jim Nancy as possible to start that Rams

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Speaker 1: Broncos game, Russell Wilson and the Broncos about to take

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Speaker 1: the field and Los Angeles to take on Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and the Rams, and Santa's gonna find out which quarterback

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Speaker 1: has been naughty or nice on CBS. It never gets old.

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Speaker 1: I think he used the same line and it probably,

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Speaker 1: you know, hit the same way. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: why that when I heard that, it really made me laugh.

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Speaker 1: Santa's gonna find out who's been naughty or nice. I

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Speaker 1: guess Baker has been nice and Russell Wilson has been naughty,

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Speaker 1: all right for Mark Uh, this was a pleasure for

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Speaker 1: Justin Graver. I'll be back. We're doing a Monday Night

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Speaker 1: recap tonight with Jordan Rodrigan. We'll be back on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: with a special guest. And so the train keeps moving on.

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Speaker 1: But until then, he'd the call m