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First, though, let's 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.720 shout out our fan who said, what's up to us? 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.720 At you. He said, what's up to you? Ten quinn? 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:54.160 Quinn? 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:55.960 Yeah, man, that's awesome. And he came and said, what's 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.920 really appreciated listen? Yeah, was that? 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.400 What would have been was that we had a good time. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:01:59.520 Man. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.919 Was it around on Saturday. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.760 In Seattle on Saturday? And when I say you, the 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.720 fans showed up and showed up. I'm impressed. Man, when 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.640 I go on those trips man to the away games, 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.560 just to see so many fans and some of the 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.160 faces are familiar to him all over and over again. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.760 And we had the joke going. Jason could have tested this. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.359 We was going and we was like, bro, it's two 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.440 people we see everywhere. What do they do for a living? 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.560 Assume we walking and we've seeing those dudes and we 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.160 just sitting there die laughing because I'm like, Bro, I 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.360 was just talking about you, and I was asking about 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.400 your job. One of them was the Road Warrior and 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.720 rapping those two guys there. Yeah, Road war is only 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.400 thirty seven years old. So I'm like, when you was 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.640 in your twenties when I got here, Yeah, you was 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.200 trapped a super fan. He said he had a job. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.480 I said, you must be a nurse or something. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.359 They go to the games too. Yeah, to the game, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:48.919 to the games. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.000 They go to three days man rally. Captain is in 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.440 the front row at our home games. I'm not sure 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.680 if I'm not sure where he since that for the 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.280 away game, I'm not sure where the seats is that, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.720 But bro, he's They're really in the building. So I 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.480 tell my hat off to those guys, man, because that's 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.760 what makes you want to, you know, get behind this 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.720 team and really see him do good. When the fans 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.679 that's been around forever, ye're still riding. You're good. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.480 The bad and ugly they always woured. And plus a 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.359 guy named Quinn. That's the last name, that's the first name. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.160 You can always trust a guy like that. Like if 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.480 somebody got a first name a last name for a 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.120 first name, they usually like a real grounded person. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.840 They were about to people like if you know a Nelson. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.360 Or something, I guess that Nelson's a pretty grounded last name, 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.839 last first, first or all right, Well, so let's let's 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:37.840 start high level. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:42.280 Time. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.720 I look up Jason Falling, like he got this thing 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.760 in the office when we be doing me every time, like, Jay, 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.160 do you need me to scoot up? 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.400 He go out his way. No, don't you scoot this? Chirup? 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:59.960 He go right behind me. Trip, dude, I can scoot. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:04.760 I guess he tried to fight this weight thing. I 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.200 think I'd be like, you can fit through that? 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.760 He like, yeah, of course I can't. He tried to 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:14.240 turn someutway and trip, falling up the dough. Ever, in 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.920 time he grabbed me this trying to hold on it's 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:18.640 hair man. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:25.719 Well, speaking of holding on, this team couldn't hold onto 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:26.480 this win in Seattle. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:28.280 Stop listening Seattle. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.000 Let's let's start with high level thoughts. And I guess 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.400 thet'll start on the defensive side of the ball. And Fred, 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.560 do you want to kick us off? I will, Okay, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:35.920 let's go. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.839 We ain't stopping those bleed. It was one of them times. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.680 Listen to me like I'm about to push back. So 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.160 the fights I with styles and when somebody just come 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.240 in and bludgeing you. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.280 So I'm just saying this. I didn't see nothing we 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:51.240 did well. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.760 I felt like some of them calls was on the spot. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.479 Execution is a different thing, and that's what we did 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.760 not do. We did not execute two things we did 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.839 on execute and finish, and those two things if you 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.000 don't do that on defense. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:06.719 You don't give yourself a chance. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.840 We need to stop them fifty seconds logan fifty six 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.400 at the end of the game. Yeah, and I know, 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.880 but I'm just saying, fifty seconds you need to get 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:18.040 in field goal range. I'm not mad if they trying 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.640 to sixty one, you order, they mean, you at least 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.440 stop them some. But for them to move the ball 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.000 the way they did and with who they did, they're 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:27.279 saying a lot to me. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.280 So I just want to push back one second. I mean, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:31.640 you said they didn't really do anything well, and I 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.080 would argue that they did some good stuff on third down, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.720 and like when you watch the game, and I'm with you, 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.320 like they're getting kind of beat up. You know, it's 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.680 like here's a ten yard chunk, here's a fifteen yard chunk, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.000 here's a you know, here's a twelve yard game. Oh 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.919 my gosh, that's three first downs, and all of a sudden, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.760 there's an incomplete pass. So there's a bad run. They 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.520 get the third and four. They got off the field. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.640 They got off the field ten times in this game. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.880 And if you think about it, going into the fourth quarter, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.680 before that last drive, which was about six minutes left 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.599 in the game. It was nineteen to nineteen. And for 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.400 a defense that's not played well this year, I mean, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.119 I think there are thirtieth ranks ranked in the NFL 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.159 at the moment. I mean, and again I'm not a 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.520 defensive guy, but I look at that and I say, like, 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.120 you held them to multiple field goals. You got off 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.920 the field when you had to. And it's not saying 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.000 it's because they were overly skilled. Sometimes they got lucky, 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.680 Gino missed the pass whatever, I have to say, the 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.039 end of half thing where he takes the intentional grounding, like, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.640 come on, what is that? But I think compared to 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:27.720 what they've been doing. 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.960 Come on, five hundred plus it was for four ninety eight, yes, 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.120 come on, like but but as an offensive. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:35.600 So this is where I like, this is where I'm 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.240 trying to get to, like a kernel of truth here, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.039 all right. And I remember when we were in twenty ten, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.600 we were the number number four offense in terms of 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:49.040 yards per game, but thirty first in terms of scoring 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.680 and yeah, and so we'd had all these yards and 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.200 so I don't really care about the yards. And if 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.120 the defense is holding you to punts. 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.320 And what Pigsburg Steely does doing but they're not giving 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:57.800 up points. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.839 But what they are doing is they're making explosive defensive play, turnover, sacks, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.320 all that kind of stuff, forced fumbles, flipping the field, 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:05.800 and so they can do some stuff there that we 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.279 are not doing. But as a defensive player, how do 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.080 you quantify that? Like you come in on Monday and 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.360 he say, man, it was nineteen and nineteen. What happened 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.560 seven minutes left in the fourth quarter? Yeah, we did 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.440 some good stuff on third down? What like, how do 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:22.480 we feel about this game? 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.840 Just giving up? Just giving up chunks at the wrong time. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.800 That's how I look at it. I think they played well. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.320 And one of the things, you know, I've said this 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.640 so much now weekend and week out, play competitive football. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.000 They're doing that. But I think when it all balls 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.480 down to you, when you're really watching the film, it's 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.240 a player too. When somebody's not doing what they or 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.000 somebody I can't say not doing their job, but not 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.920 not going out their way to make a play when 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:46.840 it's time to make, you play the play in front 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.200 of you, make the play, make a clean play. And 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.040 that's what it balls down to me, Like it's a 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.840 tackle year, it's a pass interference here when you could 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.480 have come off the field. It's in the wrong time 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.360 of the game, part of the field, whatever may be. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.680 And it's been like that the entire year. It's like 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.400 guys are playing well enough and then they just say 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.240 I'm gonna break down to day. I'm gonna break down 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:08.720 right now. This is gonna be my moment when I 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:09.160 break down. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:09.840 You can't do that. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:16.040 We talked about this yesterday. The marginum era very small, 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.520 and when you're a great team, you can have those 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.440 head coups here and there. But when you're not, when 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.840 you're fighting a clawing to try to get wins and 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.560 trying to become five hundred. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.600 You can't have those mistakes. Hey, this way I used 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.200 to love. I used to love watching the Yankees game, 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.840 New York Yankees, and boy, when. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.800 They hear the call in the same man closer when 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.880 it's time, I knew it was over. And when I 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.040 watch good teams, they always got this one or two 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:43.880 guys or three. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.080 Guys they closed the game. They closed the game. So 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:51.679 I asked myself, who's the closers on this defense? And 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:53.600 it's one of the things where you have to. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.600 Really look to say, Okay, I'm looking a little bit 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.840 too hard right now. It might not be as many 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.360 closes as I think. Like Cam Currow, I look at 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.520 him as a close. Have you had those situations to close? 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:05.719 So I don't know. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.640 I think that's a really good point though, Like Cam, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.280 I think is very representative of the defense. Maybe at 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.959 the moment, like he's at ten tackles, he's maybe a 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.079 PBu in there, but like nothing dramatic. And I look 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.160 at like like this is because I watched the whole, 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.880 the entirety of this game, the Baltimore Cleveland game, right, 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.520 and you know, Cleveland's one of the best defenses in football, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.800 and they gave up explosives, they gave up first downs, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.400 they gave up touchdowns, They looked a mess, but in 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.640 the fourth quarter got an interception for a touchdown, and 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.520 all that stuff that they screwed up on is now. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.280 And so I look at this team and it's kind 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.640 of what Tanna is saying. It's like the other way, right, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.160 It's like they did a lot of good stuff, got 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.360 off the field on fourth down, held in the field goals, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.199 but the one touchdown they got in the in the 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.320 in the in the first three three and a half 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.360 quarters of football was a two guys missed a tackle 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.400 right Failbot is not on in the right spot necessarily 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.960 Russian the paster so ends up being a huge run 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.600 for for Walker for a touchdown or catching run. Excuse me. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:02.320 And then all of a sudden you mentioned the fourth 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.040 and five. Great job overcoming some adversity there. They gave 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.160 up a twenty yard completion prior to that. You get 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.679 to fourth and five, I feel pretty good about that, 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.959 and then you have a defensive past interference and so 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.360 there's no there. Every every I guess my point is 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:22.040 every defense in the NFL has those negative moments, but 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.880 it's can you overcome it, overcome it and make the 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.480 plays when you got to make him and make it 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.280 and make a dramatic play to kind of shift it 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.240 in your favor, especially on the road, like. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.920 At one point we had the twelve man. We had 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.080 them out of there, like you could hear a. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.240 Roach fard in there. It was quiet. You got to 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:42.120 keep them right there. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.000 And then not only is it I just remember coming 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:50.640 to huddles and defensive yeah, set on Springs, I got 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:51.679 Sean Taylor. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.440 And were fighting over who Finn make this. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:55.719 I was gonna I was gonna add to that. I 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.000 don't like cutting people off, but I had to hear it. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:05.800 You don't. That's what I was gonna say. Though it's 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.160 not a playmaker. I don't see enough of plays being 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.200 made to make a difference in the game. You understand, 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.960 like sometime you're gonna play clean football. It's okay to 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.640 play clean team football. You do your job, do your job. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.199 But then when you look on the other side of 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.040 the ball with the sport was making play. This kid 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.319 flew around me. He made a difference in I mean 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.480 I watched the entire game and of time he made 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.360 a difference in the outcome of that possession. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:30.559 Yeah. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.560 So that's what I don't see on our defense. And 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.360 it's been week eleven and we're still looking for because 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.880 you're in every game now, who's gonna make a difference. Say, man, 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.480 let's get up off the field. I'm tired of being 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.440 out here, you know, I'm tired of being on the field. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.520 I'm tired of letting this team go three going first 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.160 down second. Oh, let's go get a picker. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.640 Right, Let's come to the herd and say we know 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:50.840 where they Finna go with the ball. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.080 Guess what shade over top of me? 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.520 I'm going down here like that's what a team does, that's. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:56.679 What they do. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.520 Aid they didn't call this play, I don't care. We 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.400 know what throwing the ball at. Tell him, I tell him. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.240 I say tell this story so much because I can 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.120 honestly say, and Logan is like a he's one of 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.320 the best guy when it comes to breaking down right 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.320 the other side of the offensively, defensively. He just know 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:15.880 how to look at fim and just tell you something 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.079 about what's going on that I haven't got from a 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.640 lot of people who's not coaching on a high level. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.880 You know, I know he's coaching, but on a high level. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.720 But it goes to show you he played in the league. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.520 So most guys who played here who was under you know, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.400 good coaching staff, they able to learn and pick it 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.040 up like that he did. But when we talk about 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:39.200 offenses two thousand and five, six seven, that was the 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.160 first time I was a part of offense that just 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:46.400 said you're gonna get fifteen tempts, you're gonna get seven temps, 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.360 he's gonna get twenty or more carries and one of 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.200 y'all make a play. Yeah, and bro our offense won games. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.040 That week we went to the playoffs and five that 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.040 week we went to the playoffs in seven that week, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.080 we didn't have much offensively but three guys, and we 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.520 found a way to be productive. So when I'm watching 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.839 these games, I'm like, now you come with all these 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.959 big schemes, these big defenses, we're gonna do this is 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.040 offensive schemes. You don't need to do it. Who's gonna 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.760 make a difference, make a difference especially, And so that's 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.199 what that's what we're missing. I feel like these guys 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.320 are all capable, not saying that they can't go out 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.320 and do what we ask we just haven't seen it 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:22.840 done at a consistent basis. 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.440 And I wanted to ask you something, Fred, So, like 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.000 you were talking about kind of playing outside the scheme 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.160 or bending the scheme to the players. Do you need 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.960 guys with more experience to do that, like guys that 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.800 have or is that just kind of I think it's 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:34.560 a style of guys. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.880 I think it's a style of guy, a hunger of 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:44.480 nature for the playmaking the hall. The hall, don't care 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.719 about what you just called ye this dude, then ran 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.920 three comebacks on me. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.720 I'll be damn if it's gonna happen again. So some 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.160 players just it, guess what we play all of them Like. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.000 We'll go into a game and let's just Sean Taylor 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.199 be like, hey dude, they finna try to do this 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.160 play action. They're gonna try to hit this tight end 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:03.760 at the backfield. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.480 It ain't my man. I need you to come over 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.040 top for me. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.480 Oh I got you? What about your man? No, I'm 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.920 I'm gonna get under your man. Don't worry about it. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.120 They gonna be able to throw it. So if you 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.080 got to check him, just worry about the deed. There's 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.559 people that play together and trust each other. There's people 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.800 that's identifying that we gotta go make a play and 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.600 guess what. Nobody cares what the play call was when 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:24.440 we make that play. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.160 And did you have like a like a wide variety 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:28.880 of defenses or was it pretty. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.680 No, it was it was straight forward streamline. This is 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.440 how we were dictating the terms we played. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.200 You're kind of adjusting. You were adjusting the defense to 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.080 what they were presenting, kind of like settle. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.160 Yeah, right, like the make they bing you today wheel 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.080 And if you're gonna beat us doing what we do good. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.880 That's fine, that's fine, And I think that's what it takes. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.240 And I think you, I think it takes reps to 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:51.200 learn how to play each other. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.120 But some guys haven't been together four years. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.480 But I mean I was thinking about it though, like 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.640 you know, Saint Jesus is his third year. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.240 Yeah, he'd been here with long enough. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.920 With these guys, I kind of well, I've always wondered though, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.160 Like you know, I had COOLi here in my rookie year, right, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.000 And so Cooley was the guy that would kind of 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.320 give you the inside baseball like hey man, like you're 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:08.760 getting off the ball and I'm like, no, man, I'm 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.000 getting off on time. He's like no, like watch this 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.840 film and he'd freeze frame and be like no, I 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.600 see you're late. And I'm like why. My Lady's like, well, 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.280 you know when the center snapping it and I was like, 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.880 I thought I was on stapping on set. He's like, 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.480 go talk to the center. So I went and talk 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.520 to the center and he was like, I'm actually snapping 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.280 it on like so it was white Ady, white Ady 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.560 the s set and I was like a tenth late. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.760 You know what I'm saying, and so he they have 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.440 like the tricks, you know what I'm saying. And I 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.200 felt like when d Hall was here, he had the 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.840 tricks that he could kind of give to Breshad Breeland 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.640 and kind of there's that guy there that knows that 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:38.520 they we spent there. 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.400 Yah, somebody that was willing to change the play situation. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.200 That could help Perry Riley, that could help all those 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.600 guys out. And I feel like even with offensive lineman, 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.760 when you get that old war daddy in there, that's 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.240 seeing everything, that's seen every pass rush move, he's got 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.240 something for you that a coach doesn't have. And I 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.640 kind of wonder, like, I know this isn't a young team, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.320 but it's young in spots in terms of experience, you 0:15:59.320 --> 0:15:59.840 know what I'm saying. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:05.040 Guest Cam would be that dude for me, But he doesn't. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:05.280 Play that way. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.240 He doesn't. He's not he's not in the position to 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.640 kind of make some of those plays himself. Like he's 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.160 he's coming up sign somebody coming up and making play. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.160 You have to play when when he's in the vicinity. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:16.880 But one of the things too, that you can say 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.280 is too is just this goes back to Kyle Shanahan 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.360 well of saying, hey, overcome coaching. I know I got 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.440 you in this position. Now you go and be special 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:27.680 like I told you. Like every time, like when you 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.440 know we go. We have tons of discussions about what 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.160 a cornerback should be doing, what a cornerback shouldn't be doing, 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.880 why he's doing this because he's coaching or whatever it 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.600 may be. But I'm like, I got that. I'm fine 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.880 with that. But once I put your position, Now, what 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:42.840 made Dion Dion? 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.560 What made what? 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:49.600 May re coach ain't saying don't do that. I remember 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.320 being in the game when Ed Reed checked out of 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.800 a coverage and Shoppy Fields beat Mike rump for for 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.360