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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot and his son's shirt and Tantana moss Man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, man, come.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know what you're saying, core Corey.

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Speaker 1: Do they really so it's just the same read you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, I gotta go yeah. Oh, there's a QR code.

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Speaker 1: got to recap this Seattle Seahawks game. First, though, let's

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Speaker 1: shout out our fan who said, what's up to us?

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Speaker 1: At you. He said, what's up to you? Ten quinn?

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Speaker 3: Quinn?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's awesome. And he came and said, what's

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Speaker 1: really appreciated listen? Yeah, was that?

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Speaker 2: What would have been was that we had a good time.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Was it around on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: In Seattle on Saturday? And when I say you, the

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Speaker 2: fans showed up and showed up. I'm impressed. Man, when

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Speaker 2: I go on those trips man to the away games,

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Speaker 2: just to see so many fans and some of the

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Speaker 2: faces are familiar to him all over and over again.

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Speaker 2: And we had the joke going. Jason could have tested this.

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Speaker 2: We was going and we was like, bro, it's two

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Speaker 2: people we see everywhere. What do they do for a living?

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Speaker 2: Assume we walking and we've seeing those dudes and we

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Speaker 2: just sitting there die laughing because I'm like, Bro, I

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Speaker 2: was just talking about you, and I was asking about

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Speaker 2: your job. One of them was the Road Warrior and

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Speaker 2: rapping those two guys there. Yeah, Road war is only

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Speaker 2: thirty seven years old. So I'm like, when you was

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Speaker 2: in your twenties when I got here, Yeah, you was

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Speaker 2: trapped a super fan. He said he had a job.

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Speaker 2: I said, you must be a nurse or something.

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Speaker 1: They go to the games too. Yeah, to the game,

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Speaker 1: to the games.

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Speaker 2: They go to three days man rally. Captain is in

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Speaker 2: the front row at our home games. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: if I'm not sure where he since that for the

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Speaker 2: away game, I'm not sure where the seats is that,

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Speaker 2: But bro, he's They're really in the building. So I

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Speaker 2: tell my hat off to those guys, man, because that's

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Speaker 2: what makes you want to, you know, get behind this

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Speaker 2: team and really see him do good. When the fans

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Speaker 2: that's been around forever, ye're still riding. You're good.

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Speaker 4: The bad and ugly they always woured. And plus a

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Speaker 4: guy named Quinn. That's the last name, that's the first name.

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Speaker 4: You can always trust a guy like that. Like if

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Speaker 4: somebody got a first name a last name for a

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Speaker 4: first name, they usually like a real grounded person.

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Speaker 3: They were about to people like if you know a Nelson.

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Speaker 1: Or something, I guess that Nelson's a pretty grounded last name,

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Speaker 1: last first, first or all right, Well, so let's let's

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Speaker 1: start high level.

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Speaker 3: Time.

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Speaker 4: I look up Jason Falling, like he got this thing

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Speaker 4: in the office when we be doing me every time, like, Jay,

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Speaker 4: do you need me to scoot up?

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Speaker 3: He go out his way. No, don't you scoot this? Chirup?

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Speaker 3: He go right behind me. Trip, dude, I can scoot.

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Speaker 3: I guess he tried to fight this weight thing. I

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Speaker 3: think I'd be like, you can fit through that?

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Speaker 5: He like, yeah, of course I can't. He tried to

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Speaker 5: turn someutway and trip, falling up the dough. Ever, in

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Speaker 5: time he grabbed me this trying to hold on it's

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of holding on, this team couldn't hold onto

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Speaker 1: this win in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Stop listening Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's start with high level thoughts. And I guess

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Speaker 1: thet'll start on the defensive side of the ball. And Fred,

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Speaker 1: do you want to kick us off? I will, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go.

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Speaker 4: We ain't stopping those bleed. It was one of them times.

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Speaker 4: Listen to me like I'm about to push back. So

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Speaker 4: the fights I with styles and when somebody just come

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Speaker 3: So I'm just saying this. I didn't see nothing we

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Speaker 3: did well.

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Speaker 4: I felt like some of them calls was on the spot.

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Speaker 4: Execution is a different thing, and that's what we did

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Speaker 4: not do. We did not execute two things we did

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Speaker 4: on execute and finish, and those two things if you

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Speaker 4: don't do that on defense.

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Speaker 3: You don't give yourself a chance.

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Speaker 4: We need to stop them fifty seconds logan fifty six

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game. Yeah, and I know,

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Speaker 4: but I'm just saying, fifty seconds you need to get

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Speaker 4: in field goal range. I'm not mad if they trying

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Speaker 4: to sixty one, you order, they mean, you at least

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Speaker 4: stop them some. But for them to move the ball

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Speaker 4: the way they did and with who they did, they're

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Speaker 4: saying a lot to me.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to push back one second. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you said they didn't really do anything well, and I

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Speaker 1: would argue that they did some good stuff on third down,

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Speaker 1: and like when you watch the game, and I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: like they're getting kind of beat up. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: like here's a ten yard chunk, here's a fifteen yard chunk,

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Speaker 1: here's a you know, here's a twelve yard game. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, that's three first downs, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: there's an incomplete pass. So there's a bad run. They

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Speaker 1: get the third and four. They got off the field.

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Speaker 1: They got off the field ten times in this game.

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Speaker 1: And if you think about it, going into the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: in the game. It was nineteen to nineteen. And for

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Speaker 1: a defense that's not played well this year, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think there are thirtieth ranks ranked in the NFL

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Speaker 1: at the moment. I mean, and again I'm not a

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Speaker 1: you held them to multiple field goals. You got off

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Speaker 1: the field when you had to. And it's not saying

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Speaker 1: it's because they were overly skilled. Sometimes they got lucky,

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Speaker 1: Gino missed the pass whatever, I have to say, the

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Speaker 1: end of half thing where he takes the intentional grounding, like,

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Speaker 1: come on, what is that? But I think compared to

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Speaker 1: what they've been doing.

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Speaker 4: Come on, five hundred plus it was for four ninety eight, yes,

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Speaker 4: come on, like but but as an offensive.

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Speaker 1: So this is where I like, this is where I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to get to, like a kernel of truth here,

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Speaker 1: all right. And I remember when we were in twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: we were the number number four offense in terms of

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Speaker 1: the defense is holding you to punts.

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Speaker 3: And what Pigsburg Steely does doing but they're not giving

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Speaker 1: But what they are doing is they're making explosive defensive play, turnover, sacks,

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Speaker 1: and so they can do some stuff there that we

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Speaker 1: are not doing. But as a defensive player, how do

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Speaker 1: you quantify that? Like you come in on Monday and

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Speaker 1: he say, man, it was nineteen and nineteen. What happened

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Speaker 1: seven minutes left in the fourth quarter? Yeah, we did

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Speaker 1: some good stuff on third down? What like, how do

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Speaker 1: we feel about this game?

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Speaker 2: Just giving up? Just giving up chunks at the wrong time.

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Speaker 2: That's how I look at it. I think they played well.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things, you know, I've said this

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Speaker 2: They're doing that. But I think when it all balls

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Speaker 2: down to you, when you're really watching the film, it's

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Speaker 2: a player too. When somebody's not doing what they or

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Speaker 2: somebody I can't say not doing their job, but not

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Speaker 2: not going out their way to make a play when

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Speaker 2: of you, make the play, make a clean play. And

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Speaker 2: that's what it balls down to me, Like it's a

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Speaker 2: tackle year, it's a pass interference here when you could

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Speaker 2: have come off the field. It's in the wrong time

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Speaker 2: of the game, part of the field, whatever may be.

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Speaker 2: And it's been like that the entire year. It's like

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna break down to day. I'm gonna break down

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Speaker 2: right now. This is gonna be my moment when I

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Speaker 2: break down.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday. The marginum era very small,

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Speaker 2: and when you're a great team, you can have those

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Speaker 2: head coups here and there. But when you're not, when

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Speaker 2: you're fighting a clawing to try to get wins and

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Speaker 2: trying to become five hundred.

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Speaker 3: You can't have those mistakes. Hey, this way I used

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Speaker 3: to love. I used to love watching the Yankees game,

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Speaker 3: New York Yankees, and boy, when.

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Speaker 4: They hear the call in the same man closer when

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Speaker 4: it's time, I knew it was over. And when I

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Speaker 4: watch good teams, they always got this one or two

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Speaker 3: Guys they closed the game. They closed the game. So

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Speaker 3: I asked myself, who's the closers on this defense? And

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Speaker 3: it's one of the things where you have to.

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Speaker 4: Really look to say, Okay, I'm looking a little bit

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Speaker 4: too hard right now. It might not be as many

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Speaker 4: closes as I think. Like Cam Currow, I look at

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Speaker 4: him as a close. Have you had those situations to close?

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point though, Like Cam,

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Speaker 1: I think is very representative of the defense. Maybe at

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Speaker 1: the moment, like he's at ten tackles, he's maybe a

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Speaker 1: PBu in there, but like nothing dramatic. And I look

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Speaker 2: So that's what I don't see on our defense. And

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Speaker 4: Right, Let's come to the herd and say we know

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Speaker 2: But it goes to show you he played in the league.

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Speaker 2: So most guys who played here who was under you know,

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Speaker 2: offensive schemes. You don't need to do it. Who's gonna

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Speaker 2: what that's what we're missing. I feel like these guys

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you something, Fred, So, like

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Speaker 4: I think it's a style of guy, a hunger of

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Speaker 3: I'll be damn if it's gonna happen again. So some

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Speaker 4: We'll go into a game and let's just Sean Taylor

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Speaker 4: that's identifying that we gotta go make a play and

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Speaker 4: guess what. Nobody cares what the play call was when

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Speaker 4: No, it was it was straight forward streamline. This is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, like the make they bing you today wheel

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Speaker 3: Yah, somebody that was willing to change the play situation.

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Speaker 4: these defense players, but when we played Buffalo, I forgot

437
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Speaker 4: the linebacker that just made the linebacker for Buffalo that

438
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,639
Speaker 4: may play to play to play to play. I'm like,

439
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 4: he's the reason. Like sometimes you can point out, like

440
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Speaker 4: Miles Gary, when I watch that Brown's defense, he's the

441
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Speaker 4: like you can point out. Sometimes our group we can't.

442
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Speaker 4: There's nobody just say, you know, that's the reason we

443
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Speaker 4: win in these games. Now we can say it's a

444
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Speaker 4: group that the reason we are.

445
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Speaker 2: We been playing well, but we we haven't had that

446
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Speaker 2: that just played that that playmaker that just like man,

447
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 2: I got it. Yeah, and damn that boy right there.

448
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

449
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Speaker 1: So a couple of things. One, I love that you

450
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Speaker 1: brought that up to because you know, Mike McDaniels a

451
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, it was like, are on the

452
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Speaker 1: in some interview he said like, it's it's not about

453
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Speaker 1: the coaching, it's about the players. And I think you

454
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 1: guys are talking about that there right. It's about the

455
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Speaker 1: guys that are like elevating and it's his job as

456
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Speaker 1: a coach to elevate and make sure that happens, which

457
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Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting and very relevant. But also

458
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Speaker 1: I think like to your point, Fred, like one of

459
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Speaker 1: the things that I kind of I really wish would

460
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Speaker 1: have happened in this game is I felt like, you know,

461
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Speaker 1: you draft Emmanuel Forbes to kind of we talk about

462
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Speaker 1: the corners there. Second you said a little bit right

463
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Speaker 1: to bump Benjamin Saint Jus into the nickel where he's

464
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,199
Speaker 1: been pretty good this year, and then keep Fuller on

465
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Speaker 1: the outside, and then you get three guys who are

466
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Speaker 1: more at home can make more plays. And and I

467
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Speaker 1: really felt like Forbes in his five matchups with DK Metcalf,

468
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Speaker 1: had a really good plan. Yeah, and I'm not saying

469
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Speaker 1: the game is going to be different, but I but

470
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Speaker 1: I felt like he had He looked like he was

471
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Speaker 1: ready to go.

472
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Speaker 3: No, he was rare.

473
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Speaker 1: And then I think about Saint Juice in the slot

474
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Speaker 1: and what that looks like. As you're talking about we're

475
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Speaker 1: having a hard time passing stuff off, and I was

476
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Speaker 1: thinking about and I was like, Saint Juice repped nickel

477
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Speaker 1: this whole week. Yeah, yeah, and then now he's outside.

478
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Speaker 3: After the third player, so all of.

479
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Speaker 1: A sudden you get Danny Johnson there who hasn't reaped

480
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Speaker 1: as much as Saint Juice, and then say Juice hasn't

481
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Speaker 1: rushed there, And so I don't know, man, I just

482
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Speaker 1: wish they could go back and play this game again

483
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Speaker 1: to see what Forbes would have done, yeah, and to

484
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Speaker 1: see how Saint Jeus would have done in the slought. No.

485
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Speaker 4: I totally understand what it is, but I kind of

486
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Speaker 4: take it to a right when we start a game,

487
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Speaker 4: we don't know who gonna We know we all come

488
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 4: in healthy, but we know we could lose a soldier

489
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Speaker 4: and he'd just be out with a ham screen in

490
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Speaker 4: two weeks. Well, I look at that ejection ejection the

491
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 4: same way, like, all right, he got hurt. But I'm

492
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Speaker 4: with you, I would have wanted to see that matchup

493
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Speaker 4: as because I saw them playing a lot of two

494
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 4: men against Seattle. And I'm telling you that plays into

495
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 4: the real wave ofs of Forbes way more than it

496
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 4: plays into the real waves of Saint Jews, because one

497
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Speaker 4: hundred people used and the other one hunting picks.

498
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Speaker 3: And now I ain't got to play high on the guy.

499
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Speaker 4: I can go out here to just make play out,

500
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Speaker 4: to play out to play you, right, A guy that's

501
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Speaker 4: trying to touch the ball would have had a better

502
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Speaker 4: day on him. But do we in turn see they're

503
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Speaker 4: gonna get even take of it if four of his playing,

504
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Speaker 4: do we stop the run?

505
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Speaker 1: You know?

506
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Speaker 3: You know, so it's always a question to another question.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that in those I think he

508
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: had five or six snaps. He had three where he's

509
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: matching up with Metcalf and it just like he was

510
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: just anticipating what he was doing. So I was like,

511
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: man was shattering him him. So cool to see if

512
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: that would have played out. But you know, talking about

513
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the defense, obviously, that's when element the linebackers.

514
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: I thought Jamon had a pretty solid day and again

515
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: like nice to see his evolution defensive line. Quiet day,

516
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Speaker 1: But I think John's playing better. I think Casey's doing

517
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Speaker 1: some good stuff with John elevating him.

518
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Speaker 2: I saw them. I saw him kind of doing some

519
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: stuffy stuff. John John got called for one. Yeah, that

520
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: was just kind of.

521
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Speaker 4: Come on, But I'd like to see a guy trying

522
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Speaker 4: to free you up again, So make a build with that.

523
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Speaker 3: Jones, I thought, came in and it's my play.

524
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Speaker 4: Made a couple of players in there, and uh, I

525
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Speaker 4: just think I'm Jamin.

526
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Speaker 3: I changed his middle name to L.

527
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Speaker 4: Davis Elff letter F.

528
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Speaker 3: The letter F.

529
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Speaker 4: Jamin Man quietly is having his best year ever as

530
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Speaker 4: a NFL pro.

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Speaker 1: It's good man, I'm truly he's playing physical football, he's

532
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Speaker 1: playing smart like he had there was a player. I

533
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: didn't show it in the breakdown this week, but they're

534
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: running wanda so outside zone away from the tight end,

535
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Speaker 1: and the tight ends to the same side, so they're

536
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Speaker 1: bringing across at action right and then they bring a

537
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: jet sweep action. So when they do that, this is

538
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: really complicated. But they're adding two gaps week and so

539
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: Jamin as a you know, last year even would have

540
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Speaker 1: just run straight play side a gap and the wold

541
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: have been a huge hold the other side. He plays

542
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Speaker 1: all the way back and makes a tackle for one

543
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Speaker 1: yard game, and I thought that is a great maturation

544
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Speaker 1: by him as a young football player. Also, guy, we

545
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Speaker 1: got a shoutouts Percy Butler. Yeah, did a great job.

546
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Speaker 2: Phenomenal.

547
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Speaker 1: I mean he missed the one tackle, but I mean

548
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Speaker 1: he made a ton of tackles, a ton of plays.

549
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Speaker 2: He's playing with a different gear now to you can

550
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Speaker 2: I mean he's always been reckless. Yeah, you know what

551
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 2: I mean. But he's also now you can see that

552
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: he's he knows what he's doing, and so he's he's

553
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: flying around there and going out.

554
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Speaker 3: And I like to see it.

555
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Speaker 4: He just came down a little bit because at first

556
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Speaker 4: he was that wow, it just all over the place, energetic,

557
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 4: but he just calmed down and he letting the offense

558
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 4: take him to the plays right.

559
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Speaker 1: Now, and then we got we gotta kind of hurry

560
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: up here. But let's talk about the offense real quick.

561
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Speaker 1: You know. I think there was a lot of good

562
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Speaker 1: things that the offense did, but it all happened kind

563
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: of late. And I feel like everyeren says, other defense,

564
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: they had eighty one defensive snaps. They couldn't get off

565
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: the field. But I feel like there was a sequence

566
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Speaker 1: in the first half of the offense outside of two

567
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: explosive plays, to be rob wasn't really getting a lot done.

568
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, late in the fourth quarter,

569
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Speaker 1: they come to life, make a ton of plays. Like

570
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Speaker 1: what's the balance there? What are our thoughts on that group?

571
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Speaker 2: It was stagnant for the most part, I think, you know,

572
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you hit a dead on the head. Those

573
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: two exposive plays. You would have thought we had more

574
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Speaker 2: production out of there, just especially that first one. You

575
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Speaker 2: know what I mean. After that first one, I was

576
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Speaker 2: sitting in the I was sitting in the little press

577
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: boxing like, Okay, there's gonna be one of those days

578
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: for us. These guys come to play. But then you know,

579
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: it's like I said before, the same way where I

580
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: saw on the defense, it's a player here when somebody's

581
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: not doing their job, you know what I mean, you

582
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: get a guy who comes through free for the most part, man,

583
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: is what I'm what I'm enjoying watching and talking about

584
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: maturation of players. Man. Sam is slowly starting to get

585
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: it when he's seen when he like, you're seeing different guys,

586
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: you seeing different fronts, and you're like, okay, they bringing five,

587
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: they're bringing six, and then those two jobs dropped out.

588
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: It's four guys coming. But you know it might not

589
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: be the fourth guy that we thought so that one,

590
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 2: that one guy we didn't pick up. He's finding that

591
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 2: guy that dumped the ball off to that superb man

592
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Speaker 2: for what we've seen earlier, you know, from what we've

593
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 2: seen earlier this year. So I was happy to see that.

594
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see that we can be productive. I'm

595
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: even more happy to see that late in the game

596
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: he can go out there and be a young Airwoof.

597
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna go out there and show you all,

598
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: guys why I'm called who I'm called. Why Fred gave

599
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: me the name. We asked him about that last week

600
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: too in the podcast on the All Players Club, which

601
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: one of these names he liked? He loved Airwood. So

602
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: just to know that this guy can really we could

603
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: depend on him to be a playmaker too and bring

604
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: us back in the game. I mean, what more can

605
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: you ask for? But with all that being said, we

606
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: still have to find a way that we can do

607
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: what we're doing and be consistent with it. It seemed

608
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 2: like that's the kind of that's the word I've been

609
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: using the whole you.

610
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: For next right now, at its finest, we could toss it.

611
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 4: We need to be able to play bully ball when

612
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 4: it's time to play bully ball. I think that's the

613
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 4: next level in maturation of this offense. And what I'm

614
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: gonna tell you what I do like about this offense

615
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 4: now that I look at the schedule, this could have

616
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 4: been the best defensive back field they were gonna face

617
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 4: all year. I think that collectively, mixed with game plan

618
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: the way they run it, this was the best defensive backfield.

619
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Speaker 4: I thought Terry had spots in the game where he

620
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 4: showed I could do whatever I want to against this

621
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Speaker 4: defensive back field. I felt like the others. And when

622
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: I say others, I'm just talking about.

623
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Speaker 3: The Pringles of the world.

624
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 4: The John Bates of the world leaked out and made plays.

625
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 4: But then it's the dots In's of the world. This

626
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: was a misery stick for a game for him too,

627
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: going again because now the other number two corner is

628
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 4: a stealer top corner. It was some individual battles on

629
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: offense that we didn't win, but I was more high

630
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 4: on the.

631
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 3: Ones that we did.

632
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: So when I started to line people up, I looked

633
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 4: at the offensive line against this defense. Let not one

634
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 4: of the highest SEC team, but they will get after you.

635
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 4: I watched the offensive line hold up in spots. I watched,

636
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: like I said, Terry get down the field. I watched

637
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: him battle, But then it's these other people that come

638
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: up missing. And in a game like this where everything

639
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: is kind of equal, everybody got to kind of put

640
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: they shoe in the head and say, you know what,

641
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: I got my couple of players in here too, but

642
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 4: we had some people that didn't come up and make plays.

643
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: I was scared coming into the game talking about their

644
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: offensive weapons on the outside, and I feel like Idb's

645
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: did a great job for the most part, you know

646
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: what I mean. You know that passing difference here and

647
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: a bad play here, But I was expecting way more

648
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: production from our guys. But the running backs had that day,

649
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: so you know someone's going to have the day. We

650
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: were still able to be productive, we just didn't finished

651
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: the game.

652
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think just high level. So you know,

653
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: maybe a little disappointed with the receivers that they weren't

654
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Speaker 1: more productive because but I do think that Seattle there's

655
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Speaker 1: a lot of credit in the back end because I

656
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: felt like EB came in and said, oh they run

657
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Speaker 1: cover three. Here are our Cover three beaters, and Seattle

658
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: knew how to match those.

659
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: They did really well.

660
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Speaker 4: I said, I think it's the best defensive back field

661
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 4: we will see this year.

662
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's that's good. But you know,

663
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Speaker 1: and I think the other thing is you said, ten,

664
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Speaker 1: I just got to bring this up for the offense,

665
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: is that despite kind of a sluggish start, sluggish you know,

666
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: three quarters. Really they came out and they always give

667
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Speaker 1: you a chance, like Sam. I think that's something about

668
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: Sam that's exciting. You're always in the game. And we

669
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: were talking about this the other day, like.

670
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: This a year. It feel like this year.

671
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: You know other thing too, that that that fumble took

672
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: a lot of momentum from us. Man. I mean, you

673
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: know how you saw something finna happen. I'm like, just

674
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: go down when that's when I saw him getting spun,

675
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: go down and then the ball just slowly found his

676
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: way off out of his hands. So stuff like that, man,

677
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: you really never know until it happens, and then you

678
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: can still see the momentum just switch.

679
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 4: But I can say this we down six even five

680
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: minutes ago, we need to touch down.

681
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: When Sam is on the field, feel good about it.

682
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,160
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Speaker 1: Great job, Fred, awesome work. Okay, So now let's get

699
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Speaker 1: to the dig deeper section of this podcast. And so

700
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: basically what our producer Jason did is he picked out

701
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: a couple of stats which I think are really interesting,

702
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Speaker 1: and we're going to kind of peel back the layers

703
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: of the onion and figure out whether they're legitimate or

704
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: whether they're they're spuriously correlated with something else. Yeah, okay,

705
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: So the first one I think is awesome. It's Benjamin

706
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: Saint Juice is tied for the NFL lead in defenses

707
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: with fifteen What does that mean?

708
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: It's good and it's Babe, ME tell you it's good

709
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: because he's been between fifteen balls.

710
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: That was submitt for wire receivers to burn him.

711
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: He pbu's hard to get in the NFL bad because

712
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: they got that many numbers of throws your way.

713
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: It's a dominant number one corner.

714
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, to get them

715
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 4: type numbers, you must be getting that type traffic because

716
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 4: top corners don't usually get that many chances to make

717
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: plays on ball.

718
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, to that point, Fred like, oh, I looked

719
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: up sost Carter. Yeah, right, And I was like, how

720
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: many contested targets does he have? So that's ones where

721
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: you can break it up potentially, right, and so he

722
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Speaker 1: had twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

724
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that seems like.

725
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: A lot ten games.

726
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, that's a lot, you know. And

727
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: I look how many think Benjamin sinjuce seys that like

728
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: forty some seventy five? Thank you seventy five. They are

729
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: hucking the ball at this man. And it's also important

730
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: to note that in those matchups he does pretty good.

731
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Speaker 1: But he draws right. Now, every week they find a

732
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Speaker 1: way to put him on the best player.

733
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Speaker 3: And guess what South Gordon every week is on the

734
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: base player.

735
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Speaker 1: Right, But he only gets how many targets twenty five?

736
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: He ain't get talking because he's in the hills.

737
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: They also know that Sauce Gardener has a knack.

738
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Speaker 3: For the bull.

739
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: He's a threatening They understand watching it watching Saint Jus

740
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: that he's not picking nothing off. He's either gonna PIU

741
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: or he's gonna pu He's gonna get a PBu. So

742
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: why not keep toalks as a receiver. I heard your standpoint.

743
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: As a receiver. Yeah, I'm gonna keep coach. I don't

744
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: care less how many PBUs he got throw at him.

745
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: I want to.

746
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: I want to throw at And I'm not saying it

747
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: because you know, I think very highly as I just

748
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 2: see at times he panics when the ball gets around him,

749
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: and that's what costes him to have these attempts throw

750
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: at them. Teams want to say, hey, he's he has

751
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: great coverage, but he's gonna be you because he don't

752
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: know how to just finish out the thing and finish,

753
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: you know, finish to the place. So he has to

754
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: minimize some of those those those moments where he's like

755
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: to blow his gasket when the ball and hey man,

756
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: it's calm, breathe easy, you're there, you got great coverage,

757
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: You're there, you alone. Read the guy's eyes in his hands.

758
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: It's so every time.

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00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: It's so simple because he go the logic of teams.

760
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: All right, Saint Juice is your day number one. But

761
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: we're gonna stay away from Fuller because.

762
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Speaker 2: You know why, because he gonna get the ball back,

763
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: gonna get the ball back, and and he's smarter. He

764
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: Fuller is a slow in the hall. So I'm just

765
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: saying the hall was he was running with the best,

766
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: Yes to the best. Fuller is patient. Man, I'll be

767
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: watching for the some time. Like, boy, don't play with

768
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: that boy. He making precise tackles. He's right there on

769
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: the ball. He's like you, you have to be exact

770
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: with him throwing the ball in his vicinity. So that's

771
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Speaker 2: why you get what you get.

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Speaker 3: And this the tale of it.

773
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Speaker 4: Take it just like if a receiver getting one hundred

774
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Speaker 4: catching I mean chances to catch a ball and he

775
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: catch eighty. And then my other homeboy, he don't get

776
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: a sixty five attempts and he catched sixty three.

777
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: Who the better received?

778
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Speaker 1: So yeah, the other thing I just wanted to ask about,

779
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Speaker 1: because I think this is relevant, is the matchup. He

780
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: draws a tough matchup. Every single week, you know, because

781
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: because Sauce, like we're staying with this comparison, Sauce plays

782
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: exclusively on the right side of the defense, right, he

783
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: doesn't travel with the number one guy, and so.

784
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, on the side or whatever.

785
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: You have been doing a little bit of that this year.

786
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying it's Saint just just will play

787
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: the slot, but following the best guy, he'll play outside

788
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: for the best guy.

789
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: To his credit, Saint juess credit, who else we want

790
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: to put on put on those.

791
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: I guess that's a good point, Yuess, that's a good point.

792
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: So you're asking him to do what he brings to

793
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Speaker 3: the dam.

794
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like my coach when I was at the Jets,

795
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: spoke to the media and say, hey, oh yeah, I

796
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: need my not to catch guy to you know, make

797
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: more plays. And the meeting came right to me. Coach

798
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: said that you need to make more plays. He just

799
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: my name, but you're allowed the guy. Yeah, So you

800
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: know that's that's how it is, you know what I'm saying.

801
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: So he's the guy that he can do that.

802
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: So we're gonna put him on those So what advice

803
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: would you give him?

804
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: I would Tanner said something, start to start to start

805
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 4: to physically impose your wheel on games. If you're gonna

806
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 4: give me the chance to check these number one, you're

807
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: gonna give me a chance to showcase these guys, especially

808
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 4: in the country here. I need to finish like he

809
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 4: did against Drake London in Atlanta. No paddick in Atlanta.

810
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: But then you get with DK Metcalffe and now you're

811
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: diwt in yourself a little bit. And the one thing

812
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: about corners, we can't hide how we really feel because

813
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: you can see it on the field, all right, Finish

814
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: the play.

815
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Speaker 3: Because he's the one thing I can say about him.

816
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: He never had a phase. Now he never He's always

817
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: in phase. He's there playing them. Finish the play.

818
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: It's two things I would say, Finishing this one because

819
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: you know, I love to watch the end of a

820
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: lot of plays that comes to our passing game or

821
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: anybody's passing game, to see how that receiver, how calm

822
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: he was when the ball cat got that to him,

823
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: and how that defensive back, how calm he is. And

824
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 2: I was a guy I'm late hands like a month,

825
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be running a round and not that I

826
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: see the ball behind your head and I ain't showing

827
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: you nothing their eyes or none. And in the last minute,

828
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: I'm either gonna jump over you or you know, because

829
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: you know defensive best when you when you in your

830
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: bag as a defensive back. You got to the point

831
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: to where you cannot even have to turn. I'm gonna

832
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: look at your expression on your hands, if the eyes.

833
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: And I played on a long enough at a old

834
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: enough age to understand that when I see that guy

835
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: go to do this, I'm just gonna get right between

836
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: the hands. I ain't got to touch him this. When

837
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: you get between one of the hand, they gotta make every

838
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: catch hard. You make that hard catch, culose to you.

839
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: You made it because I made sure that other hand

840
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: didn't get up. So what I would say is one

841
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: finish better, bro, Just kind of get into your thing,

842
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: you know, off season, because right now we kind of

843
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: too late in the season to start reading the expressions,

844
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: the eyes, the different things like that, and before you

845
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: even finish, start find a way to slow guys down

846
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: before they get into their routes. We're talking about this

847
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: all the time.

848
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 4: He's too long, six three, too fast, too big to not.

849
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: Put hands on everybody he in front of and The

850
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: only reason when guys don't do that is because they

851
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: respect you too well and know that man if I

852
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: miss made me look bad, so stop having respect.

853
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: At the end of that game, the last play with

854
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 4: DK Metcalf. If you tell me it's two man, I'm inside.

855
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: First of all, I'm jamming him. Finna make him run the.

856
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: Hump you're talking about on the post I'm talking.

857
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 4: About on the posting end the game, I feel like,

858
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: and that's that screams press and not only press jump

859
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: I'm talking about I'm jumping in your.

860
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: Chest because you got help my responsibility, your responsibility.

861
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: Yes, so I'm.

862
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: Attacking Mississippi to Mississippi. I think he needs to start.

863
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: Using them God giving gifts that only he has.

864
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Look, I understand when you man, I don't want to

865
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: press everybody. When I'm man like, it's a corner. I'm

866
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not gonna miss, but I might get

867
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: in front of you enough to slow you down before

868
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: you because he's long enough to do it. But in

869
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: two men get up there be overly aggressed. Overly I'm

870
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: talking about I saw Forbes do it last week, and

871
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what I've been wanting. To see from

872
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: DV because it happened to me so much, you know

873
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: how you know, you know you want them kids that

874
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: your mama beat you so bad or so much to

875
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: where when your brother got a whooping.

876
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: Like you deserve everything.

877
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: Like That's how I am as a receiver watching the

878
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: game now, Like I'm kind of bitter to see these

879
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: guys have so much free access. I'm like, God, damn,

880
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: I ain't get that treatment, you know what I'm saying,

881
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: Like I wish I was going. I can see why

882
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: you got all those numbers. You got free access. So

883
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: when I see our guys be be you know, lean

884
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: into that and not not you know, allow guys to

885
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: get off and do what they do. You know, it

886
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: frustrates me a little bit.

887
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: Be true to talk to like more recent cornerbacks, no offense, Fred, but.

888
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: Try to say the guy because I would say this

889
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 4: my generation of football.

890
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: Don't forget.

891
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: I came in while Jerry Rice and Tim Brown and

892
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: were still playing with my classmates. Then we had to

893
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 4: check the t os of the world, the random mouse

894
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: of the world.

895
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: These boys, I said.

896
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: I think we played the golden age of why receivers stop.

897
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you that, so more yellow jackets in

898
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: my group of guys.

899
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: We had to check the any group of guys.

900
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. But what I was gonna say, and this is

901
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: maybe a conversation for a different show, is basically that

902
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: now receivers are so polished. They're so polished at every

903
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: level of the game. I think about seven on Seven's right,

904
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: you do seven on seven since you're five years old.

905
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: And I'm training receivers in high school cantenna that are thirteen,

906
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: and they're like, they know stuff that I didn't learn

907
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: till year five of the NFL. They were accelerated. So

908
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder this is just one of those

909
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: type of I wonder if if that's changing the calculus

910
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: for them in terms of pressing versus not.

911
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: This could be right, and I think I don't disagree,

912
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: but I'm just curious because when you look around the league,

913
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: pressing is down.

914
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, bring up. You're right.

915
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 2: But the one thing that I can't understand is if

916
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: I see you and two men and you in the

917
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: face of a guy, why not take advantage of having

918
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: help and knowing I could.

919
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: Just I could just blah blah blah do it what

920
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: I wanted to.

921
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, and not just my

922
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: question with that.

923
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: I think the wide receivers are still wide receivers. I

924
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 4: just think at the end of the day, the defensive

925
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: coordinators and what the techniques that they're teaching a little

926
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 4: bit general laxed, Yeah, a little bit more relaxed when

927
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: we was a little bit more aggressive that.

928
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: Property because of the game. You can't do so much

929
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: with your hands, you know.

930
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: The holdings.

931
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you touch somebody, you know the game, you know.

932
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: But like I said, man, like, that's all I want

933
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: to see from him because I think he's great and

934
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: I've been a fan of him. I think the world

935
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: of him. Uh you know, especially and I'm not just

936
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: saying this, but when you have that many pbu's and

937
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 2: they're trying you in, kudos making them plays, but it's

938
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: the plays when you don't make that you don't make

939
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: in the plays that you're making that that don't count

940
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: because of you using something that you didn't have to use,

941
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: building on the guy or just nothing up, you know

942
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: what I mean. You can't nut up under pressure.

943
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so another guy that kind of so

944
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: Forbes Obviously we are not Forbes full or Saint Juice

945
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: there we go, I think is uh, you know, maybe

946
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: not the best performance, but the guy guy that we're confident.

947
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: We're confident his skill set totally company and hopefully that

948
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: he'll be able to improve the next ploe because we've

949
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: seen him have really good games and see him play well,

950
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: specifically against the Giants. I mean, that was one of

951
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: the best games he's had this season, probably in his career.

952
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: Can you repeat that again this week?

953
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 4: So see that that game two, the Giants game is

954
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 4: a Michael cosm of what's going on. He made all

955
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: of those plays and then he didn't make the one that.

956
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: Need to be making one, and then and then one

957
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: of them they gave to the dude.

958
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: They gave it to him. But I'm just saying that

959
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: it's the timing of when you play making.

960
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: Happen und percent. So yeah, we'll keep an eye on that,

961
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: keeping on his development, and bring that up on the

962
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: show as we see fit. Another guy that I think

963
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: is maybe a little more positive at the moment is

964
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson.

965
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

966
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: He looks dynamic, Yeah, in a way that I wasn't expecting.

967
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: So as of right now, he's nineteenth in the NFL

968
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: and rushing yards with four and twenty five, which is

969
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: way higher than I thought it would be. And he's

970
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: the seventh running back and receiving yards with two hundred

971
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: and fifty six. Yeah, what are your thoughts on him?

972
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: What do those numbers mean to you? I'll start with

973
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: sentient man.

974
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: Just just think about it. You say, he's nineteenth in

975
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: rushing yards and he haven't been the man leaving games

976
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: with eight carries. I mean, give him a chance, but

977
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: not even staying. Give him a chance. You know when

978
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: we do have those opportunities, I understand why E B

979
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: goes away from it a little.

980
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: Bit because it just not looks superficial.

981
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: It's not looking efficient enough. It's not what you call it.

982
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: They have a term that they use when it comes

983
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: to that play. Was this because of the chances of

984
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: making the play?

985
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: Success rate or you get success rates?

986
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: So I look at the success rate of some of

987
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: those runs, I'm like, yeah, that's why we're doing friends. No, honestly,

988
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 2: because I'm with you, it just looks like a crowd

989
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: in there, and that no one just trying to get

990
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: in the club. But as a playmaker as a whole,

991
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: no one thought he would be this dynamic is a

992
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: pass catcher. I mean we saw, we saw that he

993
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: had that skill set, but we didn't think that it

994
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: was going on because you see so many guys that

995
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: have this opportunity in this offense in Kansas City, they

996
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: had a different kind of frame, they had a different

997
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: kind of style of run. But even that we have

998
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: those guys on this team, he's out playing them, he's

999
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: out doing them because he understands, look, men, this is

1000
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: my way to still be productive. So coach leave me in.

1001
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: I can do it, you know, and just also like

1002
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: to toot our own horns and give ourselves some recognition.

1003
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: We did say he could leave the team in touchdowns

1004
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: and could be the m v P this year. Offensively. Yeah, no,

1005
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: we all said that we agree to that.

1006
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 4: And I remember watching him at training camp and we

1007
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: were like, he finlna get the ball in a couple

1008
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 4: of different ways. In the crazy part about it, we

1009
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 4: would have thought it would have been more Russia than receiving.

1010
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: Right now, I feel like we have so many other

1011
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: guys that can do what he's doing.

1012
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: I can tell you this when I watch film always,

1013
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: because the great backs do it all the time.

1014
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: They leave DB's in their wake. They leave us like

1015
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: on the ground.

1016
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: Like if you look at film of a great running

1017
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 4: back catching or running, it's u the dB scattered all

1018
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: over the ground. When I watched this violent guy run violently,

1019
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 4: he leaves DV like they're not trying to hit him.

1020
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 4: Tell him I watched three guys trying to cut him

1021
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: lower and seattle And that's a physical defensive backfield right there,

1022
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: and they refuse to hit this man.

1023
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: But below the I mean above.

1024
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: The way they tell you how powerful he is, how

1025
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: skillful he is, and it only brings up the question

1026
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: what if he touched the ball at least fifteen times

1027
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: a game.

1028
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: Catching and running, what does his numbers look like? Then?

1029
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: So he leaves that big old void of what if.

1030
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: But we know how the play calling of a game

1031
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 4: can go. You came in wanting to do this, but

1032
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: once you get in the game, you got to get

1033
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: do you know, with the other team given up?

1034
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think like when you look at teams

1035
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: that are really efficient to run the football, they're built

1036
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: a little differently. They emphasize stuff a little differently, Like

1037
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, this was not a priority for this offense

1038
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: this offseason. They didn't do a lot of running during

1039
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: OTA's in mini camp, which is what most teams do.

1040
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: That's fine. They've prioritized the passing game, They've prioritized SAM development.

1041
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: I think that's all, Especially the sam development part. I

1042
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: think that's the right thing. But teams that are good

1043
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: at running the ball, like even like look at Seattle,

1044
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: they don't take a lot of negative runs because they

1045
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: really strive and work and strain to get good angles

1046
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: and make sure guys know what how to handle different

1047
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: looks because really that's the hardest thing in the run game.

1048
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: It's it feels very defensive in this way. Like when

1049
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: you talk about defense being reactive. A good run game

1050
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: is reactive because I can present a four man front.

1051
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: I can present a five man front. I can present

1052
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: two linebackers in a safety. I can present two linebackers

1053
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: and two safeties. How do we block those looks? And

1054
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: so getting getting that repetition and getting those looks, getting

1055
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: that communication and having the tools in the run.

1056
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: You've been watching for them.

1057
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a big different pass wise. Yeah, since

1058
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: Chris Paul and Lous how has it been in the

1059
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: run gain.

1060
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: I think you know, Chris is a young football player,

1061
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: and I think one of the things that coming out

1062
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: of Tulsa, I think is where I went to school, Yeah,

1063
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: was that he was a little bit raw. So there's

1064
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: times where you see him not understanding, hey I need

1065
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: to sit on this double team a little bit more,

1066
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: or hey i'm out leverage on the double team. I

1067
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: need to leave early. Yeah, I need to take a

1068
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: better angle. And so that's stuff you see with young

1069
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the run game because it's reps. It's

1070
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: like seeing the combinations, understanding the combinations, understanding how much

1071
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: time I have. So I think he's still working through

1072
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. I also think, you know, in

1073
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: this game, for example, I thought it was great that

1074
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: the most successful runs were outside zone runs, which we

1075
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: don't run a lot of. But I like that he's

1076
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: changed it up. Eb got to some different play calls,

1077
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: and the runs were targeted correctly. You know, we got

1078
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: everybody hats on, hats, guys covering guys up and then

1079
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: that's what you see this group can they're physical upfront,

1080
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: they're fast up front.

1081
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: I was going to actually about that because I was

1082
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: going to say, like, at some points in a game,

1083
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: when we have those runs as early go nowhere, get nowhere.

1084
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: And then you saw late in the game we had

1085
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: both of those guys had two or three runs that

1086
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: was just exceptionally well ran well had you know, plus Yachtist.

1087
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's the difference from when we ran them

1088
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: Dean and we ran those guys before, or did we

1089
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: not run the same runs?

1090
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: I think they were different runs.

1091
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, we so we ran our runs that we

1092
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: normally run, which is WANDA, which is open side run

1093
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: away from the tight end pop GT. We run those

1094
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: a ton and they not a lot of sledding on

1095
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: the ground there. They were ready for it. And so also,

1096
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: I think this whole offense is built around throwing to

1097
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: open up the run run, and so you see kind

1098
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: of the benefits of that late in the game because

1099
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: everyone's defending the pass. Yeah, you get better boxes.

1100
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: The dean is ready to pass rush, you run off tackle.

1101
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: Like you said, now, the linebackers were snug to the line.

1102
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: They waiting on crossing routes now, so yeah.

1103
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: You get nickel versus base defenses right, and you can

1104
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: move the ball really well. And so the thing I

1105
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: just want to say is like when they target run

1106
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: correctly and the combinations are clean. They run the ball, well,

1107
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: it's just about how maximizing that. To me, it's just

1108
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: a rep's thing, right, So if you want to be

1109
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: robbed to run the ball more, it's like we need

1110
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: to clean up, We need to we need to emphasize

1111
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: that more in the week or in the off season

1112
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1113
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: So now you you said that we all picked him

1114
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 4: to lead the team in a touchdown? Do you remember

1115
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 4: who I compare him to Arian Foster?

1116
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: You didn't.

1117
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: You didn't see it then, but after one hundred yards

1118
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 4: receiving one.

1119
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: That very I didn't see it.

1120
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: I think it was on the same page.

1121
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel what you're.

1122
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 3: Saying because y'all remember him. I don't know if y'all.

1123
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: I just think Arian Foster had that glide, had that glo.

1124
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: By this stuff and foot in the ground.

1125
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: Be size wise, they're the same because b Robb is

1126
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: not small.

1127
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: He's not small.

1128
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: Arian Foster played for the Texans, right, played for the Texans.

1129
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: They had that Remember he had that cut.

1130
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he had a gallop on him.

1131
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 4: But smooth bodies could could bump off of people, kid

1132
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 4: break tackles.

1133
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: It was dead type of dude. So most definitely I

1134
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 3: thought Aaron Foster was a great cump full.

1135
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm excited for him each and every week.

1136
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: It just shows that he can do more and more

1137
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: in this offense. And hopefully they do find kind of

1138
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: a rushing identity and something that works for him earlier

1139
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: in games, so he gets more touches and I think

1140
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: that would also help the defense a little bit.

1141
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: And then why I say fifteen touches again, I don't

1142
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: care how you diving them up right, fifteen I should

1143
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: never lead a game, and he ain't touched about fifteen.

1144
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: He's shown an ability to be a playmaker and that's exciting.

1145
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: And someone else who's shown a tremendous ability to be

1146
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: a playmaker is Sam Howe. Okay, so this is a

1147
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: long stat so just to miss which only the eighth

1148
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: player in NFL history to have four games of three

1149
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: hundred yard passing in the first eleven career games. Okay,

1150
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: the first to do it since Show Burrow and Justin

1151
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: Herbert in twenty twenty three consecutive games with three hundred

1152
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: plus passing yards, the most consecutive games of three hundred

1153
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: plus passing yards for a Washington QB since Kirk Cousins

1154
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: in weeks fourteen to sixteen of two sixteen. So obviously, yeah,

1155
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: dude's playing good football right now. It's something something, Yes,

1156
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: it's something. So what are our thoughts about him? And

1157
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: that statistic doesn't mean anything because if I was a hater,

1158
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: which there are haters in the national media, so I'm

1159
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: just gonna pair it what they said.

1160
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: He used to be a hater.

1161
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: They're saying that all this volume from a passing game

1162
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: is leading to these inflating statistics, kind of like he's

1163
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: playing in the air raid in college.

1164
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically trying to say, like, basically he Kirk Cousins

1165
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: getting garbage time.

1166
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even garbage time. It's just worth We

1167
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: throw the ball seventy percent of the time.

1168
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 4: But he still got him throw it on point. He's

1169
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: still gotta recoveragees. As matter of fact, it's set up

1170
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: for him to have more ERA than the average quarterback

1171
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 4: because think about this, uly, when a quarterback comes into

1172
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: the game for his first couple of starts, we do

1173
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 4: everything in this world to hide him, like we do

1174
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 4: everything in here to protect him with the run game.

1175
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: We try to protect him with a good defense we have.

1176
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 4: Said, Sam, howe, here, here goes everything, not somethings here,

1177
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 4: oh everything, And he's excelled and gotten better weekend and

1178
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 4: week out.

1179
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: They can say what they want to buy, my boy.

1180
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: Sam snow the philth brown bastard.

1181
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: He will not be stopped.

1182
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: Hey, well, you can say what you want them if

1183
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: you do them, if you don't. But you look at

1184
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: it like this. There's been many of quarterbacks put in

1185
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: this situation where they had to throw the ball, and

1186
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: we haven't been saying the song thing. We haven't been

1187
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: saying the same thing about how accurate they've been. Wow,

1188
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: did you see that, Maria? Did you see that that

1189
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: clutch stroke at that moment of the game. Wow, you

1190
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: see him throwing to that lane, throwing to that whole.

1191
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, you can talk about when is he's throwing it,

1192
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: how much volume it is, But you got to complete

1193
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: the pass, You got to give the receiver a nice

1194
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: ball enough to make the play. And he's done all

1195
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: of that. So they can screw themselves with all that.

1196
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: You know, because they want to. They want to find

1197
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 3: out a reason why why.

1198
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Now everybody will reason.

1199
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, also, I think to Tennis point, those haters, they

1200
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: don't watch the games, because if you watch the games,

1201
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: you see a guy who, over the course of the

1202
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: season understands it's a hot situation, the baldy's toe out

1203
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: of my hand, or hey, this is how I manipulate

1204
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: the safety, or hey, let me just deliver like one

1205
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: of the best big time throws of the season. Yes,

1206
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: and a critical moment against Seattle over to you know

1207
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like he he delivers the goods And

1208
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: I think that's something so like those like the numbers,

1209
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: I think are great, but I think when you watch

1210
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: the down to down stuff, you're like, this is this

1211
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: is this could be something special. And I think that's

1212
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: why there's this conversation about him.

1213
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: And that's why I hate people. They will judge you

1214
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 4: about your draft status so much. I don't care. After

1215
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: you get into the league, I don't care what pick

1216
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: you were. Like at the end of the day, they

1217
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 4: holding the fifth round against him like they do any

1218
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the top ten quarterbacks they get drafted four

1219
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 4: out of one out of four might make it.

1220
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: We just happened to find our guy in the fifth round.

1221
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: Taking to leave it, yeah, I think. And that's the

1222
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: other thing is people forget that he was going to

1223
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: be the first quarterback selected and he slipped in the

1224
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: draft a little bit.

1225
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens.

1226
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: And I understand why he slipped, Like I was part

1227
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: of that group that was a value way to him,

1228
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, maybe this is why. Whatever, whatever,

1229
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: But I think you see it now and he's exceeded expectations. Yeah,

1230
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: he's showing he's a pros pro. He's showing a composure,

1231
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: he's showing a leadership.

1232
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: That's all it's about.

1233
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: He's done all that stuff, man, And like you said, Dan,

1234
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: every week, especially for the last couple of weeks, he

1235
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: just delivers those big time moms.

1236
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 3: The ceiling continues to rise for him.

1237
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: It's not like he just thought he's going out there

1238
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 2: just winging it, and you say, like, damn, he threw

1239
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: five balls over these guys head or through five balls

1240
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: in the vicinity, but it just didn't get there. You know,

1241
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: he's completing those passes.

1242
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: And it's so funny because c J Scribe, which I

1243
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 4: was a big fan of number two pick balling.

1244
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: Is he in the MVP race? I don't see Sam

1245
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: holing the MVP race.

1246
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 4: Last time my check had more yards and touchdowns than

1247
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 4: he did.

1248
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: See this. This is what I'm telling you.

1249
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: They got this this prom queen thing in the NFL

1250
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: with dram picks, like they want to make Meo Kappa right,

1251
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: They want to make him right and everybody else wrung.

1252
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: But it's also to I mean, just to the you know,

1253
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: chime in a little bit on that CJ. Stroud situation.

1254
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: He took a team, I mean that team they're winning

1255
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: games to garbage last year and now they winning games.

1256
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: And then he's young, he's a rookie that's playing like that.

1257
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: So I can see why they're talking, you know, him

1258
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: being MVP, you know caliber or whatever.

1259
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: We brought to you by bet three six five. Get

1260
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: your straight bets paid out or parlay selections marked as

1261
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: winner when your team goes up by seventeen points regardless

1262
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: of whether the opponent comes back to win the game. FRED.

1263
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: That's mean, if any point of this game they go

1264
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: up by seventeen, I.

1265
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 3: Get that break.

1266
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: I guess so money, money, money, That sounds pretty good.

1267
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1268
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: So this year, teams have gone up by seventeen points

1269
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: and we've paid out nearly fifty two times this season

1270
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: as of eleven nine. That's awesome, man. So if they're

1271
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: up by seventeen points, money point.

1272
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: So that mean when we played the Broncos and they

1273
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: was upset and we can't make the win.

1274
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: Out Four times this season, both money lines have been

1275
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: paid out because of NFL early payout and the end

1276
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: result in the game. One of the four was the

1277
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: Commander's Game, which you just said, f It's almost like

1278
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: you read ahead of the string.

1279
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: No, I didn't. It hit me.

1280
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 4: No, it hit me that we was down a lot

1281
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 4: of points and came back with the young air.

1282
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: So, whatever the sport, whatever the moment, it's never ordinary

1283
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: at bet three six y five. Whatever the sport, whatever

1284
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: the moment, it's never ordinary at bet three sixty five.

1285
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: Bet three six five. The official sports betting partner of

1286
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders must be twenty one and physically located

1287
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: in Virginia. Please gamble responsibly. If you were someone you

1288
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: know has a gambling problem and wants help, call one

1289
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: eight hundred gambler.

1290
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: Go Bruins.

1291
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: We did it.

1292
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: Go got through that.

1293
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: Thanks guys.

1294
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I knew did u c LA was

1295
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: a junior cobit.

1296
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: And so now we're doing Never tell me the odds, right, okay,

1297
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to it.

1298
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: Boys.

1299
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: Never tell me the odds, all right, so huns odds?

1300
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: Who made it?

1301
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So do you remember the quote. What's the context?

1302
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 4: Well, the droid was telling him the odds of them

1303
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 4: making it through the asteroid fields. Yes, it is, and

1304
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: then he turned around and say, never tell me the eyes.

1305
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: Han Sol said it. Yeah, man, I got I gotta

1306
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: review that a little bit. Okay, So I'd just make

1307
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year at four and six or roughly

1308
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: six percent. If we say we got a chance if yeah,

1309
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: if we were in the next two games, so we

1310
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: beat we beat the Giants, we beat Dallas, ye will

1311
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: be a thirty percent. So talk to me about that.

1312
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: It was a fiel.

1313
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if it was, We'll all be drunk. Then

1314
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: what it is? You don't know?

1315
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: That's saying you know, but it's most I mean, like,

1316
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: this is something that coaches used to say to me

1317
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: all the time. Worn say to us, Yeah, it's like,

1318
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: hey man, we're still in.

1319
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 3: Guess what we are like no matter how bad it looks.

1320
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 4: Now, if we ever gonna beat the Giants, it has

1321
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 4: to be now like it wouldn't it would never be another.

1322
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: The veto under centered to give us this chance. I'm

1323
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: telling you now, the Cowboys, I'm not worring. We always

1324
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: play up time party. That doesn't it will not shock

1325
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 4: me if we beat the they would not shock them out,

1326
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 4: all right. Yeah, So I'm just saying making it back

1327
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 4: to fire. Once you back to five hundred, with so

1328
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: many games to go, you got a legit chance to

1329
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 4: make the playoffs.

1330
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: And think about who were going against.

1331
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 4: It knows we're going against who the Saints, Saints like

1332
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 4: the seventh Yeah, I'm not just saying, look at the

1333
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 4: teams that we're going against to.

1334
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: Try to get that.

1335
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 4: All right, So the Minnesota with Josh Robs, So these

1336
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: are the teams. It's very good chance. Tell me the odds.

1337
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think they you know, if the defense

1338
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: plays a little bit better over the next couples, which

1339
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: they might. I know it's late in the year for

1340
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: them to start improving, but.

1341
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: You can always get better.

1342
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: I think that Sam, the Sam thing is big for me.

1343
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: Sam's playing good football, having a good quarterback.

1344
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm that dude man jumping the gun. No, we're

1345
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 2: not jumping any gund I know the odds, what you're saying,

1346
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I can't look ahead. When I got

1347
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: the giants who we ain't beat yet, I kept about

1348
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 2: danging to beat Oo Timmy, to Beatole whoever. We gotta

1349
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: beat these dudes first. When you beat these guys, then

1350
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: we started talking about Thanksgiving and what we may do

1351
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: up there.

1352
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: What's your percentage of? But it's finally beating the giants

1353
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: this week?

1354
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: Do you you think it's an eighty percent chand we

1355
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 4: beat him sixty chands fifty?

1356
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: Where you at, look where I'm at. They just better

1357
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: beat them. Ain't no percentage, You better beat them. At

1358
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: the end of the day, they got a numerous of guys.

1359
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: That's that's ill right now, that's hurt. They got to

1360
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: beat old people. You got to beat Ole who Everybody

1361
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: saying he can't do this and can't do that. But

1362
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: it just be all luck. Did he go out there

1363
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: and look like a damn world beat us? So I'm

1364
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: not into that. I don't like this. I don't like

1365
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: to blow smoke.

1366
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about smoke. There's five and we're

1367
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that more on our Friday pods. Make

1368
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: sure you check that out. But I Basically, what we're

1369
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: saying here is that and this is what I if

1370
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: I was to coach the team, Yeah, I'd be like, hey,

1371
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: how's it gone? Great? But we're still in it. We

1372
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: got to handle our handle our business. Business, handle our business.

1373
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: Let's beak the giants and then we'll see where it

1374
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: goes from there. But you're not out of it yet.

1375
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: Got to win some football games. And to me, as

1376
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: a player, that's all you can ask.

1377
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: From May the Veato look like an actor, make him

1378
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 4: look like an actor trying to play football?

1379
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: Make football player?

1380
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: No, that man has been thrust into the light and

1381
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 4: for something he didn't ask for. Listen, I don't know

1382
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: what's worse in the NFL right now, the backup lineman situation,

1383
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 4: the backup quarterback situa, both bat they are terrible right now.

1384
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: I totally agree, I think, But yeah, it'll be an

1385
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: interesting opportunity to kind of check that out. And again,

1386
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: gotta win football games and hopeful get that done. So,

1387
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: fred I got a.

1388
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: Question for you, anything you want to know.

1389
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: I'm so I saw you for the show next week,

1390
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: for the show on Friday, we're doing a pie bake off.

1391
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: I saw you coming with the pie.

1392
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: I did.

1393
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: I had a question about your baking prowess. No, not

1394
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: your baking prowess, your farming prowess. Okay, and your process? Yes, yes,

1395
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: How how like smarter you in terms of renewable stuff?

1396
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: Are you?

1397
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm very smart? How smart planet? So let's talk about

1398
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: it real quick. Why you say your captain planet?

1399
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: Because I love the planet one. I'm a big uh.

1400
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: Listen, he gonna think about I'm listening.

1401
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: I like to recycle.

1402
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 4: I'm a big on resekay, and I'm big on come

1403
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 4: post and stuff like that.

1404
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: So recycling, can you talk to me about your recycling process?

1405
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 3: Yes?

1406
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: Like, what do you do? You just recyclable?

1407
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: Well, really, recycling is nothing but separating garbage from recycled bowls, recyclabobbles,

1408
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 4: plastic glass in.

1409
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: A certain card box. So what I do is in

1410
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: my in my kitchen, I got three garbage cans. I

1411
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: got three.

1412
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 4: Garbage cans, one for like food and trash like that. Then,

1413
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 4: but my recycl was I don't play with that. I

1414
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: want that separated, I want it clean. So for instant,

1415
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 4: let's just say we got a mayonnaise job. I'm not

1416
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: throwing them, as John, I'm gonna wash the Manai's job first,

1417
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 4: that's the etiquette. Wash it so when you put it

1418
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 4: in there, it don't smell, it, don't reach.

1419
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: So, Tanna, is glass recyclable?

1420
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: Yes? Is it is?

1421
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: It?

1422
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: Is it? Fro, don't ask me out there? Everything in garbage.

1423
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that glass is recycled.

1424
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: I know they do.

1425
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 4: They refresh, they clean it, and they can't they can't

1426
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: break it back down to liquid and reshape it and

1427
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 4: make more liquid.

1428
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: What the hell you talking about? It's sand right, yes,

1429
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: but guess what it starts out.

1430
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: It's looking before it hard molten molten.

1431
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: Okay you're saying, but I don't know about this class thing.

1432
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: So we actually have an expert here, Ross, Yeah, Ross,

1433
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: Guberman is an expert in recycling, and so he's gonna

1434
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: join us and we're gonna ask him some questions about Yeah,

1435
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: that's what we brought him in. You thought he was

1436
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: a special guest. No, he's here. We've brought him here.

1437
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: We brought him here because I knew you were full

1438
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: of malarkey. So Ross, thanks for joining us.

1439
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: LEAs can be clean, It can be.

1440
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it can't be cleaned, but.

1441
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: And you can probably see it back to the same

1442
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: as that.

1443
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's why Ross is here. Ross. Are you

1444
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: so Ross? What is your official title?

1445
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 6: My title is Senior Vice President of Sustainability at RTS RTIs.

1446
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: So that's a pretty So Fred, you're sweating now.

1447
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: No, I'm not.

1448
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: Look at look at him, look at his.

1449
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: Hold on, let me get no eye not.

1450
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 4: I'm doing it from the consumers, the customers side of recycle.

1451
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: So he's doing it from the top.

1452
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: He's here because he's gonna tell us what Fred said.

1453
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: Was there anything factually incorrect about what Fred said? With

1454
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: regards to his recycling process.

1455
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 6: The process of cleaning it all is spot on. You

1456
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 6: gotta clean your exactly.

1457
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: No one's disputing that.

1458
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 6: Nothing there. The glass, that's a tricky one. One I

1459
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 6: would say, try to reuse it. That's a higher, higher

1460
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 6: use for it. The recycling is really tricky with glass.

1461
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 6: It gets broken down. A lot of places don't want it.

1462
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 6: In Virginia, you need like those special purple bins, usually

1463
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 6: for grass recycling, although wise it's kind of trash.

1464
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: Did you have do you have a special purple bin?

1465
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm for your recycling.

1466
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: We need idiots, definitely.

1467
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: We've been recycling making.

1468
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: So that's that's not that's not recycling, that's reusing.

1469
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 6: That's a higher use.

1470
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: That's a higher use. So when you say higher use,

1471
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that?

1472
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 6: So you want to think of the highest and best

1473
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 6: use for materials? One, can you reduce using it in

1474
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 6: the first place? And then you go down the kind

1475
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 6: of list can I repair it? Can I reuse it?

1476
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 6: All the way to it kind of get recycling, which

1477
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 6: I think is the end of the line before you

1478
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 6: have to.

1479
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: And so why so glass is not super recyclable.

1480
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 6: This is really heavy and like there's there's not really

1481
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 6: a market for it. Like sometimes you'll see shiny like

1482
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 6: sidewalks or road because they put glass in some of that.

1483
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 6: So they use it as filler and concrete and stuff

1484
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 6: like that. But there's not tons of great use for glass.

1485
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 6: So if there's not a market for it, there's not

1486
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 6: really an economist to recycling.

1487
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so we in addition to giving you

1488
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: a hard time about your lack of recycling knowledge, but

1489
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,479
Speaker 1: to be fair, before I talked to Ross, I didn't

1490
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: know that glass was kind of borderline recyclable. We got

1491
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: a game today, So you do a lot of stuff

1492
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: at the stadium, right, Ross, Yes, yes, And so we

1493
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: are going to do a quick game. How would you

1494
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: describe this game? Jason? You had a good name for it,

1495
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: catch phrase, right, And so basically we will go around

1496
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: the group and say things we think are recyclable at

1497
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: the stadium as a consumer. Okay, So I who wants

1498
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: to start?

1499
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm always good herd Okay, you're gonna start?

1500
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So okay, so and Ross is gonna judge it.

1501
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: So Jason, we just go real quick through the whole thing,

1502
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: or how do we do it?

1503
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 3: Five seconds?

1504
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 4: My number one recyclable thing at the stadium the plastic

1505
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 4: beer cup?

1506
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: Is it? If they do the beer snaked? All?

1507
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: Right?

1508
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 6: That the cup is not getting recycled?

1509
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 3: What what? Now? I knew a lot of recycling was

1510
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: getting sent to a japan.

1511
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: One whoa calm down.

1512
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 6: Recycling used to go overseas.

1513
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: So I'm blown away by that plastic cup is not

1514
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: getting recycled.

1515
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 6: Plastic cups are recyclable, but when it's standing mixed with

1516
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 6: all this other stuff, it's not gonna get recycled. Usually

1517
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 6: at the facility.

1518
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, so I'm gonna say you're out

1519
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: I guess according to Jason, you're out of the game,

1520
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: You're done, Like, I don't know how this when we

1521
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: got to I'm gonna say, I'm gonna do they sell

1522
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: metal beer cans at the stadium?

1523
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: Jason, Yeah, illumine.

1524
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say an aluminum beer can would be recyclable.

1525
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 3: May you action, Jason?

1526
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: Cause I never I never been to a game like

1527
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: I guess as a as a fan. I watched the

1528
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 1: game in the press box.

1529
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 3: What they serve.

1530
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never.

1531
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: Got into concessions. If you got concessions, I go up

1532
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: to the press box.

1533
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 6: Presuming that bottle is empty and free of the liquid,

1534
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 6: then yes, recyclable.

1535
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay, my question will be the food, the little carton

1536
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: food tray.

1537
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 3: It's our ratary, it's cardboard.

1538
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: It's like it's like like styrophonm carton type of.

1539
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 6: So it is recyclable, but it's not getting recycled here

1540
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 6: because it's mixed with food, is missed with other stuff.

1541
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 6: Most people are probably putting into the trash with all their.

1542
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: Other right, yeah, so so it's not good. So the

1543
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: only way to get that to be recyclab to be

1544
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: if it's clean.

1545
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 6: So for recycling to get recycled, it to be clean

1546
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 6: and free of contamination.

1547
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 1: At me, what I say it, They're from the dough

1548
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: so I win the game.

1549
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: So tell me so tell me. So when we're home, right,

1550
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: and they have these big old containing these garbage containers

1551
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: and saying you need to recycle the stuff that you use.

1552
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: Why is it that we recycling all this stuff that's

1553
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: not clean, that's not going to be recyclable.

1554
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 6: That's more that means you're recycling wrong.

1555
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: But who talking about this is the first time I've

1556
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: heard that the stuff that people telling you that to recycle,

1557
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: you can't use it if it's been contaminated.

1558
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's and it's been all over the.

1559
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: So I've been doing the right thing.

1560
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 6: Actually, that's that's true. Also, if you're not going to

1561
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 6: clean it, it's better to go in the trash. It's

1562
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 6: if it goes to the facility dirty, it just takes

1563
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 6: more money.

1564
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 3: You Actually, somebody don't say that. Don't say thank you

1565
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: for smooth?

1566
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: Why are we thinking you?

1567
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: Because I said that is the number one thing you said.

1568
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 6: One thing is can I reduce what I'm making the

1569
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 6: first place?

1570
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: Reduce what you're making? So what's an example of reducing

1571
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing.

1572
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 6: When you go to the grocery store, you see things

1573
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 6: that are packaged five times in plastic bags. You know,

1574
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 6: can you buy something different? Can you buy something that's loose?

1575
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: You know that, can you buy stuff?

1576
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 6: Can you get refills?

1577
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: You know?

1578
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 6: You're thinking about your consumption habits are probably that the

1579
01:04:58,920 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 6: best choice you have.

1580
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: So it's better to reuse it than recycle it.

1581
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 6: You reuse and then recycle.

1582
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 3: Coffee beans stop.

1583
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: You don't want to grow coffee. So so one thing

1584
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about. So at the stadium,

1585
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: we were talking about recycling at the stadium. One of

1586
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: the things you guys are thinking about implementing there is

1587
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: a thing called cycle. Is that correct? Can you explain

1588
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: what that is?

1589
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 6: Cycle? Buy ERTs. It's really fun and exciting. It's a

1590
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 6: way to engage the fans directly with recycling. It's a

1591
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 6: reverse vending machine like you've seen a grocery stores. You

1592
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 6: put the bottle and cans in and normally you get

1593
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 6: money out. In this case, it's rewards platform, so you're

1594
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 6: getting different rewards. You could get tickets to game. Do

1595
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 6: you discounts at the fans store? You're able to then

1596
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 6: get a clean stream of those bottles and cans and

1597
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 6: make sure as you get recycled we collect date on it.

1598
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 6: So it's a really fun way to engage people's in sustainability.

1599
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 6: It's often you don't get to see you don't get

1600
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 6: to see energy efficiency, you don't see this stuff going

1601
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 6: in the back of house if they affect the food way.

1602
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 6: So this is a way to really showcase sustainability and

1603
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 6: get the fans involved if you.

1604
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 1: Use this this model other places and how.

1605
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 6: Successful it was at the super Bowl, so anyone who

1606
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 6: got to go to the super Bowl has it. We're

1607
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 6: working with a bunch of other teams and stadiums. We

1608
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 6: have one at Red Rocks in Colorado at the concert Hall.

1609
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 6: So it's it's really fun, it's really engaging. Everyone really

1610
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 6: kind of gets into it. You'll see people kind of

1611
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 6: like running around collecting bottles and cans just to get

1612
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 6: in there because it's rewards.

1613
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 4: Guys you're talking about you brought up some recycling the

1614
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 4: cans up and say when we was young, growing up

1615
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: the hood, recycling. We were recycling the same e we

1616
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 4: were recycling to eat. So the can man, the guy

1617
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 4: that takes all the aluminum, it's dead illuminum that's being crushed.

1618
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: Is it being recycled.

1619
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 6: Yes, So aluminum is almost infinitely recyclable. It's always domestic.

1620
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 6: So again kind of going back to when you buy things,

1621
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 6: try to buy things in metal, then plastic, and then

1622
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 6: last glass. So think of when you buy beer canned,

1623
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 6: Like I always go for canned beer glass bottles because

1624
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 6: it's just it's a higher impact for glass. It's really heavy,

1625
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 6: it breaks everything.

1626
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that was like my little Saturday morning little thing.

1627
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: I used to go out and crush the cans and

1628
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: my dad doesn't use for the last month or whatever

1629
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: it was. And you know, the beers he bought was

1630
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: a life and I used to crush them and then

1631
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: we bag them up. Yeah, I go, I go get

1632
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 2: me a couple of logan.

1633
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: I used to do. I used to do that. I

1634
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: used to have a big collection of aluminum cancers. I'd

1635
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: get allowance. So my allowance was any any any.

1636
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: I got allowed to leave.

1637
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's what I'm saying. So i'd have to

1638
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: get like any can if you had a big party,

1639
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: keep all the cans anything that kind of like with

1640
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: the with the five cent recycling on the bottom. I

1641
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: think you could do glass at the time.

1642
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: And then wasn't at the bottom tops to it?

1643
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a bottle tops. So that's so

1644
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: you talked about something interesting there with the glass first

1645
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: metal bottles and like diverting. Can you elaborate on that

1646
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1647
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, So when you want to like think about your

1648
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 6: choices and you're consuming and you want to be able

1649
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 6: to divert things away from a landfill or incinerator, you're

1650
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 6: trying to think of like what can actually be recycled

1651
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 6: at a facility. So again thinking is it made out

1652
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 6: of metal. We're trying to avoid plast but plastic is

1653
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 6: still generally much more recyclable over glass, just because.

1654
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: Oh really goss crazy glass.

1655
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 6: Like you go to these facilities, they have mountains of glass.

1656
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 6: They're holding onto this material until the day they find

1657
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 6: a good contract come to do with it. Really, glass

1658
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 6: is really used for filler and stuff like this. Like

1659
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 6: our parents glass was reused, so it made much sense.

1660
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 6: It's a party, you know, you bring it back to

1661
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 6: the store, you fill with your coca cola, your milk bottle.

1662
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 6: It made sense then, but now you're probably not refilling

1663
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 6: your glass bottle. So it's just shattering and it's breaking,

1664
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 6: and it's getting mixed into all other materials. So it's

1665
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 6: actually contaminating a lot of recycling.

1666
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Well that's fascinating.

1667
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 4: How people think is if we think, kid Like, I

1668
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: was like, why don't they just throw out a glass

1669
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 4: in the volcano?

1670
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: Just a good aco, just go to Hawaii.

1671
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 6: It's got one that's about to go off.

1672
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll put it in there. My dad said

1673
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: that he used to work for for NASA in the

1674
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: aerospace industry and there was a big program when I

1675
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: was younger to launch trash this space. And then someone

1676
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: who's in a meeting was like, well what if it

1677
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: explodes and then you get all this trash raining down

1678
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: or it's like radioactive waste. So you got to think

1679
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: about the transport of that stuff.

1680
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just doubt that the Earth already has this

1681
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 4: this this girl, this recycled machine called the volcano for

1682
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 4: the glass, and I just think the well incinerated, right

1683
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 4: if I dumped a lot of this glass in there.

1684
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you know, but that is

1685
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: a thing. They incinerate trash.

1686
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 6: Right, Yes, incineration is definitely wayed tree trash, and some

1687
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,440
Speaker 6: of it collects energy. Some of this kind of straight incineration.

1688
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: When you say.

1689
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 6: Collects energy knocks everywhere. It's like, you don't want to

1690
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 6: live near a landfill. You don't want to live near incinerator.

1691
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 6: So where are they being housed? What communities are they affecting? Again,

1692
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 6: if you're reducing what you're making, then you don't have

1693
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 6: to bury it. You don't have to burn it.

1694
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 3: Ain't they like ciphering like gas from landfills? Like, uh yeah,

1695
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of nothing.

1696
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 6: So all that food you put in the trash, when

1697
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 6: it goes to the landfill, there's no oxygen being mixed

1698
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 6: sense releasing all this nothing is very co in for

1699
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 6: greenhouse glasses. And that's accelerating climate.

1700
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 3: And so they're drawing it from the bottom.

1701
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 6: Right, So there's leeches, so there's you have food sitting around,

1702
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 6: it's all liquid and gross. So that goes down to

1703
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 6: the bottle and the gas is going So tell me this.

1704
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: Who's using that? That that methane? Whatever?

1705
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 6: They travel so they try to trap the methane and

1706
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 6: they put it generate. They will generate energy electricity interesting well.

1707
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 2: Get energy from so many other places where we're spending

1708
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: money for it. Why we can't just go do that?

1709
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 3: Well, because it comes, it's.

1710
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: Coming, all, why don't we ask Ross? Is that who's

1711
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: the expert? You? Yeah, says common.

1712
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 3: Ross. What do we use?

1713
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: It's a world where they want to get your damn

1714
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: use the mean thing, the heat, the heat factories used

1715
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: the heat?

1716
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

1717
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 3: Ross?

1718
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 6: So methane gets captured, it gets burned, it turns, you know, turbine,

1719
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 6: so eventually generate extricity. Sometimes they can't do that. It

1720
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 6: breaks down. They have to like burn the gas. You've

1721
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 6: seen you've gone through industry. Sometimes they have flames coming

1722
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 6: out and they just they can't really do anything. Also,

1723
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 6: it's not a sustainable way to do it. It's it's

1724
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 6: better than letting it go out into the US.

1725
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: Me and you and then it's deal.

1726
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: So so Ross, thank you so much for joining us.

1727
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: And hopefully Fred you've learned something today about not saying.

1728
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 3: We knew we was on the same levels.

1729
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 4: Stop man, if y'all need to hire somebody, just no

1730
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 4: captain planet.

1731
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 6: We're gonna give that on mind.

1732
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: So, Ross, thank you so much for joining us, and

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