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Speaker 2: I feel like that husband should just like smash the phone, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Maybe let's make a little less aggressive. Maybe one of

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Speaker 1: those like phone cages that was like a little phone.

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Speaker 2: Prison, or like just like you know, like how like

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Speaker 2: make like the donkeys go. It's like, put the phone

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Speaker 2: on her phone, you know, tending to her angry birds.

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Speaker 1: That is amazing. That is very hilarious. I would love

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Speaker 1: to see we've thought, we talked about this last session

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Speaker 1: So I thirty six female, lost custody of my children

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Speaker 1: to my husband, thirty four male because I was slash

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Speaker 2: All of you watching Hike to Kids, Hi do life,

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Speaker 2: because y'all are addicted to your phones and you're about

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Speaker 1: You know, all these andrew Tates out here are worried

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Speaker 2: What about the phones? What about the phone? What about

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Speaker 2: the phones? The phones are taking your soul away?

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Speaker 1: Now, my therapist suggested writing about this might help me

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Speaker 2: Okay, low key, though, Reddit is not where you should

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Speaker 2: be writing about this. No Reddit on your phone or

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Speaker 2: computer is not it. Man, No go into a cabin

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Speaker 2: freaking paper like the old days. And then right about

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Speaker 1: Now we were married for almost eleven years. Wow. He

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Speaker 1: first started saying something about my phone usage around three

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Speaker 2: That's like the biggest gaslighting ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not addicted to my phone. You were just a terrible husband.

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Speaker 1: the mental leaps people people will. So that's called gaslighting. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: I told him that he didn't spend enough time with me.

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Speaker 1: I told him that he knew he didn't find me attractive. Yo,

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Speaker 1: she's laying it all man, We're like, the escalation is happening,

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Speaker 2: You're so much hotter than me, and you know it,

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Speaker 1: This is she's Paul vaulting over every every fricking every logical,

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Speaker 1: He's been collecting the receipts. He's here's here's here's him reading.

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Speaker 1: Remember wedding? Oh you got you were on your phone.

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Speaker 1: Imagine he's reading his vows and then he looks up

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Speaker 2: I mean a A Apple's anonymous, Android's anonymous.

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Speaker 1: that's a great name. We're going live once again, something

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Speaker 1: that our mothers will love even more than what we

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Speaker 1: So far, it's unclear which one of them works, if

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Speaker 2: I feel like she's a busy business woman that's always.

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Speaker 1: On our phone. I mean, I mean, she says she

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, it's still like you could take work off,

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Speaker 1: A high falutin. Yeah. My husband bathes them and got

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Speaker 1: It's over over going, Well, it's over. What's the deal?

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Speaker 1: Things were going well for a month until it all went.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so went to piss So she pissed it all away,

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Speaker 2: pissed out all our luck. Wait, but I thought, like,

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Speaker 1: more sense, like if she's like answering their dynamics and

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Speaker 2: I am just the the filthiestous.

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Speaker 1: He didn't answer my call. He texted and said they

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Speaker 1: And then I got the divorce papers two days later. Yo,

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Speaker 1: you know we do we can. We do what we can't.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, if your relationship is falling apart, fall into our arms.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I see the children whenever I want, as

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Speaker 1: I've moved less than half a mile away. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: I cry every day. I'm not sure what benefit will

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Speaker 2: Get off your phone, stop writing to Reddit.

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Speaker 1: It's so simple, It's really so simple. You know.

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Speaker 2: She needs to get one of those like light phones.

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Speaker 2: You know those phones where it's like you can only

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Speaker 1: I think I feel like she can all of her

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Speaker 1: She can do that. This, I mean, this is her

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Speaker 2: Play Angry Birds again? Angry Birds the only thing that

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Speaker 2: I can think of, bro, what.

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Speaker 1: I mean they they haven't been dropping hot new absolutely

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Speaker 1: be real, be real. Maybe she's being real.

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Speaker 2: In the toilet, taking every be real, she's taking a

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Speaker 1: She's so real on be real that she can't be

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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like you know you are your realist

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Speaker 1: That's pretty real, bro. I mean that's the gritty true

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're being real. You know you want

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Speaker 1: I'm going to create a new subreddit that's, uh, just

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Speaker 1: be reals, but all of dirty piss boys for dirty

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Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a subreddit called like the halfway

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Speaker 1: These filthy, these filthy piss boys. Definitely, sure, definitely.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I told you this, but we

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Speaker 1: I am remembering this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't participate often.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to see, you know, how my

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Speaker 2: they What are their diets?

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Speaker 2: Are their logs firm or droopy? You know who's been

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Speaker 2: having Chipotle more than they should? Gut health is important. Health,

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Speaker 2: you know, that is the second brain, biggest nerve. It's

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Speaker 1: Well, hold hold on, hold on, the story is not over. Yikes.

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Speaker 1: My therapist says social media addiction is real and triggers

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Speaker 1: dopamine just like any other addiction. I'm afraid one of

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Speaker 2: Only she's like just freshly aufed Divorced's like, but you.

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Speaker 1: Know who really has a problem. One of my jesse

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Speaker 2: If you have a phone addiction, do not write your

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