1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: I think my mindset shifted when I stopped competing and 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: being competitive and comparing myself to others, And now I 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: just like compare myself to myself, like I want to 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: outdo me, Like I'm my biggest competition, Like I don't 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: care who you put in front of me. I know 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: everything about myself. I know my good and I know 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: my bad, and I'm my biggest competition. 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: What's going on? Everyone? 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: Emily A body here. You are listening to episode two 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast. Reconnect 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts and 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: industry CEOs about their highest hies, toughest moments, and everything 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: in between. We all go through hurdles in life, and 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: my goal through these discussions is to empower you to 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: better navigate yours and move with intentions so that you 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: can strive towards your own big potential and of course 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 3: have some fun along the way. For today's episode number 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty, I am chatting with Sophie Cunningham. 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: She is a w NBA player for the Phoenix Mercury 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: and honestly an all around powerhouse. We chat about so 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: much goodness in today's episode, from what it was like 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: growing up in Missouri and indulging in the farm life 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: to coming into her own as an athlete, what it 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: felt like to put the blinders on, shut out the 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: quote unquote haters, and focus on her craft, working as 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: hard as possible day in and day out through college. 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: All the way to the WNBA. 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: Sophie talks to me about her passion for volunteering to 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: lift up the next generation through both the tournament that 30 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: she contributes to called the Sophie Cunningham Classic, as well 31 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: as her work with young women's basketball teams. She also 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: shared with me how amped she is to get her 33 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: feet wet with some broadcast work, getting behind the mic 34 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: to work with the Phoenix Suns broadcast team, a new 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: venture for the twenty six year old, and of course 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: we talk about nutrition. We were brought together by her 37 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: sponsor at Quest, so naturally we talk about our favorite 38 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: Quest Bar flavors, and how it feels for her to 39 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: be playing in Phoenix alongside some of the greats in 40 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: the game. I'm talking about both Diana Torrassi and Brittany Griner. 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: Many of you know Brittany's story from over the past 42 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: year two years. Sophie opens up about what it was 43 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: like to stand by her teammate and how they all 44 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: truly have one another's backs. I love her attitude, I 45 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: love how fierce she is, and most of all, I 46 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: adore this conversation. Make sure if you're not yet subscribed 47 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: to the weekly Hurdle newsletter, get on that. 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How are you doing today, Sophie, 66 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: so good. 67 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: I'm so excited for this and to chat with you 68 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: a little bit. 69 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: I am so excited for this too. 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: You are a busy person by the nature of the 71 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: fact that you typically play so many games every week, 72 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: so I just want to like take a down step 73 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: really quick and ask you, how are you doing really today? 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: Well? Thank you. 75 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you asked that, because I think when 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: you get when you are in the school terms like hey, 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: how are you? 78 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: Oh? Good bye? 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, so it's just kind of a small talk. 80 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: But to be honest, I'm good. Like it's hot here 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: in Arizona. I was at the pool yesterday. My only 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: downfalls I have a broken finger right now, it's part 83 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: of it, but no, my family's coming down soon, and 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: so I'm in a good spot. 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: I'm happy with the broken finger. 86 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: How does that impact your game and does that tweak 87 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: you being able to get on the court? 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Not really, to be honest, because it's my off hand 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: and so if people watch me play, I have like 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: a claw out there, like it looks awful and I 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: should probably get my nails done because you know it's 92 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: drawing attention, but whatever. 93 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 4: But no, it's good. 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: I mean, the pressure of the ball sometimes hurts, but 95 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: when you're in it and your agentalin's going, it's all good. 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: It's all good. Yeah. 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: I've watched your like your shooting style lately, and it 98 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: is certainly a little bit different. 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit. 100 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: I let that thing fly, you know, I don't sometimes 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm not set. 102 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 4: You know, it is what it is. 103 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: But as long as it goes in, I'm not worried 104 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: about it. 105 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: Is it safe to say that you love what you're 106 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: doing right now? 107 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, Like, I just think, to be honest, 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: we're going through a heck of a year right now. 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: We got a new head coach, we just got a 110 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: new GM, we got new ownership last year with matt 111 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: Ishbia and he's absolutely amazing and the people he's brought 112 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: in are really, really good people. And I think we're 113 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: just kind of in that transition year where it's a 114 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: grind right now and it's just one of those years 115 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: that you kind of have to find the joy in it, 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: find the beauty. It's definitely in a valley. But I 117 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: think there's so much growth and so much beauty when 118 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: when you're struggling, and so it's just kind of that 119 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: growth mindset, that positive mindset through these times. It's definitely 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: testing our character. But for me, I don't look at 121 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: failures as a negative thing. I think when you're kind 122 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: of going through it is when you learn a lot 123 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: about yourself and about the culture and environment that you're 124 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: working in. 125 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: You're on the right podcast, lady, So talk to me 126 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: a little bit about where that mindset comes from for you. 127 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: Have you always been the kind of person that's able 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: to see the silver lining and the positives from a 129 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: struggle or has this been a thought process or a 130 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: mindset that has been acquired with time. 131 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: It's definitely been. Our family are very positive people. We're 132 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: actually farmers. I grew up in Columbia, Missouri, and so 133 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: farming there's a lot of beauty in it, but it's 134 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: hard work. Like I think everyone in their lives should 135 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: go be a farmer for. 136 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: Two days two and a half days, and I. 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Think you'd have a different perspective on life just a 138 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: little bit. But our family, we're all very competitive. We 139 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: have a lot of positive people, a lot of positive 140 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: male figures in our life, a lot of positive female 141 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: figures in our life, and so me and my sister 142 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: got very blessed with our environment growing up, and so yeah, 143 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: we always kind of saw the positive and things, but 144 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: it's not always easy, and especially when you're really going 145 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: through it, it's hard. Like before All Star Break, I 146 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: was like, what am I doing with my life? Like 147 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: this is not fun. I was going through a rut. 148 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't throw the ball into the ocean. I swear 149 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: to God I couldn't. And I was just like, this 150 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: is awful, Like why did I work so hard for this? 151 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: But for me, you know, I have a great faith 152 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: in God, and I know that you know you're not 153 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: going to stay down there and you're learning something through 154 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: those things. And so for me, that's what keeps me going, 155 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: that's what keeps me motivated, is because I'm learning something 156 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: through these valleys and through these hard times. And for me, 157 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: I want to be a great leader. I want to 158 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: be a great teammate. I want to be someone who's 159 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: great in the community. And you're not always going to 160 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: be on top. Not everything is always going to be 161 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: rainbows and butterflies, And so I think that when you 162 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: can really embrace those struggles, that's part of the story, 163 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: and that the struggle is what makes it even more beautiful. 164 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: Definitely, No, totally makes sense. You talk about this sentiment, 165 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: what did I work so hard for for this? Why 166 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: did I work so hard? And if it's going to 167 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: be like this, talk to us a little bit about 168 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: that work. When did you know that this was going 169 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: to be the path that you would be pursuing. 170 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be honest, I think from a very young age, 171 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: I always wanted to be a professional basketball player, and 172 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I found success at a really young age. You know, 173 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: even at the age of five, I was playing soccer 174 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: on a boys team and the boys parents were getting 175 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: mad at me, and my parents are like, she's too aggressive, 176 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: she's too physical, And my parents had to carry my 177 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: birth certificate around and be like, no, she's actually the 178 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: boy's age. You know, she's just a great athlete. So 179 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, give her some props a little bit. And 180 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: so I wish I was better at school. I wish 181 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: I took it more seriously because when I put my 182 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: mind as something, I can do it right. But my 183 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: mind was always making it to the WNBA. You know, 184 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ups and downs. There. There's a 185 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: lot of moments in high school that were hard. You 186 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: missed out on a ton of things. There's a lot 187 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: of stuff in college. There are people who were giving 188 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: me threats to take my life and to take my parents' life. 189 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: Like I really stirred the pot in college, Like I 190 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: don't know what I did, but I mean, it's part 191 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: of it, right. And then once I got here, you know, 192 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I think through the struggle. My first couple of years 193 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: in the WNBA, I really didn't play much. I was 194 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: Diana Tarassi's sub when she was hurt. I would go 195 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: in when she needed a breathere, I went in and 196 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: I've never been something to come off the bench, and 197 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: so it was like a whole new territory for me 198 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: because I've always been a starter through high school through college, 199 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: and so it was something I had to learn. But 200 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: through that process, I got in the gym every single 201 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: day and I made sure I got one percent better. 202 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: And so I stayed persistent, even though I didn't like 203 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: where I was at. I still had to put in 204 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: the work because I knew that eventually it was my 205 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: hard work was going to show and it was going 206 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: to pay off, and during this runt a couple or 207 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: a month ago, I had to have that same mindset 208 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: I had five years ago, because I was like, what 209 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: the heck is going on? Like I'm known as a shooter, 210 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: and I sears I could even make a layup, like 211 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea what was going on. But I 212 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: still got in every day and I just made sure 213 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: that I was putting in the work because the ball 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: doesn't lie. And I hated putting in the work, but 215 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to still do it even when it's 216 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: not fun. 217 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: So much to double click on here first and foremost 218 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: were people coming for you because of the way that 219 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: you played in high. 220 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: School that I was just feisty. I still am, but 221 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: really was in college. I just didn't back down. And 222 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: I'm the ultimate competitor, and I'm someone who loves to compete. 223 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: And when I'm out on the floor, like I smile 224 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: and I laugh and like if you say something to me, 225 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm coming right back at you, Like I'm someone who 226 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: has to have the last word. And I'm not saying 227 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. It's got me into a bull 228 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but that's what makes me me, 229 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: Like I'm sassy, I'm feisty. I'm gonna have my team's 230 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: back and do whatever it takes to win, and so 231 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: I'll never apologize for that. 232 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: I remember I was reading an article on Britney Griner 233 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: was talking about how she also. 234 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: Has your back, right. 235 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: I forget what game it was in, but someone had 236 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: think like shoved you to the core and it was 237 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: like all hands on deck, like we've got your back, 238 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: just like you've got ours. 239 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And that is such a fun environment to 240 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: be a part of, and a culture to be a 241 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: part of is when you know your whole team supports 242 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: you and has you, then you can put your kind 243 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: of neck on the line when something happens for them too. 244 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: But when everyone has each other, it's a it's a 245 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: fun place to. 246 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: Play in, definitely. 247 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: And you mentioned you know, and thank you for your 248 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: vulnerability here talking about being in these difficult moments. Talk 249 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: me through where your mind goes when these challenges arise. 250 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: Is it straight to this place. 251 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: Where you're like all right, like put in the work, 252 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: I've got this whatever, or do you have some time 253 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: where you actually feel your feelings as well? 254 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Oh Sistar, here we go. We're about to unpack this. 255 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: So normally I'm a very much like go with the 256 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: flow type person, like I, no matter what's going on, 257 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: I want to have fun. I want to make sure 258 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: people feel good, and that's just who I am. But 259 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I just started working with a sports psychologist because honestly, 260 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: at this point, everyone is good. Everyone are elite athletes. 261 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we're in the toughest league in the whole 262 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: entire world, and so what are you doing to set 263 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: yourself apart? And for me, that's my mental game. Like 264 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: if if my mental is on, I don't care who 265 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: you put in front of me, I'm beating them, you 266 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But that's part of the process 267 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: of what I'm going through right now is getting to 268 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: that point. And so a couple of weeks ago, when 269 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: I was in the rut, I called my sports side guy, 270 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: poor Zach. 271 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: You probably think I'm crazy. 272 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: I've just started working with him, and I was like, 273 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: I am in a rut and I think I'm going 274 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: to kill someone, Like I have cried so much. I 275 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: am just frustrated, like I don't know what is going on, 276 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not a crier, and I normally 277 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: see the positives but like for a couple of days, 278 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: like I was just like in my feelings and to me, 279 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: like looking back, it's funny now, but I'm so glad 280 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: that I let myself go there, because like I let 281 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: myself feel like that's part of this journey and a 282 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: part of being a professional athlete is you have thousands 283 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: of thousands of people always watching your every single move. 284 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Like I can't go anywhere. It's a blessing. I can't 285 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: go anywhere out here without someone being like, oh are 286 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: you soaphy from the Phoenix Mercury, and so like you always. 287 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 4: Have to dot your eyes, cross your t's, you know 288 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: what I mean. 289 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: And so it's a lot of pressure sometimes and so 290 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: for me just to kind of stay home and feel 291 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: my feelings right down in my journal and honestly pray 292 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: and just get away from people was probably the best 293 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: thing I did. And now I'm back, you know, like 294 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: I let myself feel, put it aside, and now here 295 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: you go. 296 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: You're rewarded with the fact that you were allowing yourself 297 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: to go through all of those different emotions. Clearly, working 298 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 3: with this sports psychologist is certainly having an impact on you. 299 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: Is this the first time that you've worked with a 300 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: sports psychologist, and what would you say are some of 301 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: the best takeaways that you've had from your collaboration so far. 302 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's not. 303 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: We had a great sports psychologist in college, Scott and Mooreton. 304 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: She was absolutely phenomenal and she helped me a lot 305 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: through college. And I think what I've taken away from 306 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: her and from Zach and Brett Ledbetter so far is 307 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: like this is this is life. Like You're not always 308 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: going to be on top of the mountain, You're not 309 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: always going to be in the valley. So you can't 310 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: allow yourself to get so high and get so low. 311 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: And it's okay to feel and the hard times are 312 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: never gonna last. The good times are never gonna last. 313 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: And so I think for me, it's just putting my 314 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: best foot forward every day and if I can try 315 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: to be better every single day, sometimes that's gonna look different. 316 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna look different every single day. But if I 317 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: am am trying to be better every single day, then 318 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: eventually this long journey, I'm going to get who I 319 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: want to be. And you know that I have a 320 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: lot of goals. But again I keep saying this, but 321 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: it's so true, because I think people think that when 322 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: you're a professional athlete that everything always goes your way 323 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: and that you don't have hard days, you don't have 324 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: hard months or hard years or hard seasons, and that's 325 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: just not true at all. We're still human and this 326 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: is still our job, and everyone's job is not always fun, 327 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: and so it's just part of the beauty putting your 328 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: best foot forward every single day and trying to get 329 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: one percent better every day. 330 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: One percent better every day. 331 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: I love that he's touched on the fact that you 332 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: have a lot of eyes on you. Those eyes, the 333 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: number of eyes have been growing every year every season. 334 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: Was there an adjustment period for that for you? Not really. 335 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: I think I was, like I've always wanted to be, honestly, 336 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: like a singer, like a country music singer. Like I 337 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: always wanted to be on stage singing, you know, like 338 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: having the crowd out in front of me. So I 339 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: think I was like born to kind of entertain a 340 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: little bit. But with that it's hard, man, Like, you 341 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: can't offend people who don't have an ego, And that's 342 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: something that I've really held onto because when you have 343 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: good games and you let all these people praise you 344 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: and it makes you feel so good. Well, when you 345 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: have a bad game, you're still going to look at 346 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: these same people who are going to be, you know, 347 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: kind of shitting on you a little bit, and there 348 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna let that take the heart too. So I 349 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: just kind of block it out. I try to be 350 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: a positive influence with all my social media's. I just 351 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: try to bring light to people, bring a smile to people, 352 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: and I try not to take it too seriously. But 353 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: then I think there are important topics like mental health 354 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: and kids and teenagers who are in sport that need 355 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: to hear things that are the truth. And so I 356 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: think the older I get, I want to kind of 357 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: take on that mentor roleshift a little bit to help 358 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: people with their journey. But also like it's so fun, 359 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: Like I think mental health people are always like, oh, 360 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: it's so tight and scary to talk about, but I 361 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: think it's honestly kind of really fun to talk about. 362 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: Well, then let's talk about it. Let's do it. 363 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: So what has your experience been when it comes to 364 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: taking care of your mental health? 365 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: Would you say that you've always been able? 366 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: I know I asked you before about upkeeping with this 367 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: positive mindset. But have you had experiences in your life 368 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: where getting to that place has been challenging for you? 369 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes in the middle of season when you don't when 370 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: you're traveling a lot and you can't get that balance, 371 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: is sometimes when it kind of turns into a grind 372 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: and you can't appreciate that you could do dribble orange 373 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: basketball for a living. And so I've always been someone 374 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: I promise from a very very young age. I think 375 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, she had to be a gym rat 376 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: if she made it to the league, or the way 377 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: she shoot, she has to be in the gym six 378 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: hours a day. And that's honestly the absolute opposite thing 379 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: I ever did. Like I when I went to practice 380 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: and I got in my extra shots, and when I'm 381 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: in the gym, I'm in the zone and I'm going 382 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten percent. 383 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: No one is outworking me. I promise you that. But 384 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: then when. 385 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: Practice is done, I'm going straight to the pool, I'm 386 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: going to the lake, I'm going somewhere outdoors. I'm hanging 387 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: with my friends and I'm not doing anything with basketball. 388 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's why I have found success is 389 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: because I have that healthy balance of I put in 390 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: my work and I go super super hard, and I 391 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: feel good about what I did, and then I get 392 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: to go lay out at the pool tan and turn 393 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: my brain off and just enjoy life. And so I 394 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: do think it is very important to kind of have 395 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: that balance. 396 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: So then what does mentorship look like for you right 397 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 3: now when it comes to either speaking out about mental 398 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: health or other topic areas that you are enthusiastic about. 399 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just sharing as much as that. Well, 400 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: we're traveling a time right now, so it looks a 401 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: little different than it does in the off season. But 402 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: right now, I think it's just like kind of showing 403 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: my day to day, showing what I eat, showing what 404 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: our practices look like. I'm at the pool all the time, 405 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: showing people like, hey, you know I'm here, I'm chilling, 406 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm getting my time in, my balance in and for me, 407 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: I have a lot of people reach out and I 408 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: try to get back with them. In the off season, 409 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: we host a Sophia Hunningham Classic back home in Columbia, Missouri, 410 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: and we make sure we talk with every team and 411 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: make them ask us questions like let us help mentor 412 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: you because it is hard being a teenage girl, especially 413 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: when you're tall and you have bigger shoulders than the 414 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: guys and you have bigger muscles than the guys. Like, 415 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: it's hard, and sometimes it does take a mental kind 416 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: of beaten on you because you just don't feel girly 417 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: or you just feel bigger than everyone. But we're like, no, sister, 418 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: that is your superpower. And one day you were going 419 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: to love your shoulders. You're gonna love how tall you are, 420 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: so embracing your shoulders back. 421 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 3: Did you go through a period where you had difficulty 422 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: accepting yourself for what you had to offer? 423 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, this is so funny because I'm six to one 424 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like anywhere from one hundred and sixty five 425 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: to one hundred and seventy two pounds, Like I do 426 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: not hide that, Like I am. 427 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: A big girl a specific range. 428 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like well that's like that's the brain TIM 429 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: always in. And I say one hundred and seventy two 430 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: because like that could be the highest. But I proudly 431 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: say that. But I am so blessed because I had 432 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: an aunt who was six y three, my mom was 433 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: five eleven, my grandma was five ten. We have really 434 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: tall athletic women and we're not we're we're not petique, 435 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: and so they're always like, you know, embrace that, like 436 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: that is your superpower, Like this is what's going to 437 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: make you stand out. And I think from a very 438 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: young and our father figures, I also want we always 439 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: kind of are really hard on men. But my dad 440 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: is the best girl dad that I have ever seen. 441 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: My uncles are the best girl uncles. My grandpa, like 442 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: everyone really embraced us and like put us on this 443 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: pedestal to like be beautiful, strong, tall women, And that's 444 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: going to be your superpower. That's what's going to make 445 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: you stand out and become who you want to be. 446 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: And so for me, I've just carried that message on. 447 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: I tell young girls that all the time, and I 448 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: also tell young boys that because I think that they 449 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: deal with a lot of mental health issues that we 450 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: don't give them credit for or try to help them 451 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: as much. And so for me, I do want to 452 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: help the young girls as much as possible, but I 453 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: do think it is important to help the young boys 454 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: as well, who are in. 455 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 3: Sports, yeah, being able to open up about this stuff 456 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: that they may not feel necessarily safe to do. 457 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: So all of the time. You mentioned in being a mentor. 458 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 3: That part of that for you is showing balance across 459 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: your social platform, showing both the practice and the hard efforts, 460 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: but also kicking back as well. And you talked about 461 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: what I eat. Talk to me a little bit about 462 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: how at your height, your stature, your performance level, you 463 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: are fueling on the right. 464 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to start because I'm going to be 465 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm a very authentic person. Like I'm just gonna throw 466 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: it out there that I used to eat a big 467 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: Mac and ten Peace Chicken McNuggets before games in. 468 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: College and high school. 469 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: Like I was disgusting, and so I like I just 470 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: didn't care, like I was finding success. But when you're 471 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: at a young age and you're at a fun college, 472 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: like you're not really caring about what you put into 473 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: your body. And about three years ago at the pro level, 474 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: like I was like, dang, I'm feeling old, Like my 475 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: knees are hurting, my back is hurting. 476 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, what is going on? 477 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: And so I really started to like dial in on 478 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: my on my diet, and I saw my body transform, 479 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: especially this past year, Like I got tests to see 480 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: what I'm sensitive to, allergic to. I've really cleaned up 481 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: my diet, and I promise you everyone who knows me, 482 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: they think it is like they don't even know what's 483 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: me anymore, because I used to eat McDonald's Wendy's talk 484 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: about all the time and I'm that stuff is so grossed, 485 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: like why are you eating that? But now I've been 486 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: working with Quest a lot. They've helped me get the 487 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: protein I need. Absolutely phenomenal. I've really used them every 488 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: single day with my coffee, with my snacks, with bars 489 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: because we're traveling all the. 490 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: Time, and I'm making sure that I mean. 491 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: Healthy, I mean clean, because that's what you need to 492 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: treat your body like elite motors, and that's what I 493 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: haven't been doing, but I have been doing the past 494 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: couple of years, and I see a nine day difference 495 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: in my game as well. 496 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: For sure. 497 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm definitely a cookie dough quest curly, what's yours? 498 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 4: Okay? 499 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: So have you tried the new blueberry bar? 500 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: Oh? I haven't yet. 501 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It is like a blueberry muffin. Like 502 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not someone who really liked all the protein 503 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: stuff because like it's too chalky to me. But they're 504 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: new products that they have put out lately. Oh my gosh, 505 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: like it is like a moist blueberry muffin. I'm not 506 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: even kidding. So I'm gonna send you something. 507 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: You gotta try it. 508 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: Not getting the deal deal. 509 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: You know. 510 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 3: The thing that's funny about you is I think it's 511 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: on your Twitter page. 512 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: The caption is God and food are all in need. Yes, ma'am, 513 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. 514 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: So okay, we're making sure that we're getting that protein in. 515 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: Are you big on hydration now as well? 516 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 4: I am? 517 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: And I set the record at Miszoo for the worst 518 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: hydration test of all sports of any year. And so again, 519 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna just be honest because I used to 520 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: suck at it. I used to suck with my diet, 521 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: and now, especially living out here in Arizona, you've got 522 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: to be on your hydration. And I've had some back issues. 523 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: I tour both my elbows with some Tommy John if 524 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: you know what that is with baseball, so I'd have 525 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: to get both of those done, and hydration plays a 526 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: huge role in my recovery. So hydration and protein are 527 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: my two biggest things that I've got to keen on. 528 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that we establish for 529 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: those that may be out of the loop that Sophie 530 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: is currently twenty six and she feels old. 531 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel younger because I'm treating my body 532 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: more like a temple. But you know, there's those weekends 533 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: where it's just, you know, you feel like you're eighteen again. 534 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: You know, then you wake up and you feel fifty six. 535 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 4: So you're trying to find that balance. 536 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: You know, I'm more often than not feeling fifty six. 537 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: So I hear you, I hear you. I have a 538 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: few years on you. 539 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 3: So then talk to us a little bit about what 540 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: excites you right now with the work that you're doing, 541 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 3: both in and outside of basketball. 542 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: All right, we'll start within basketball. For me, I am 543 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: twenty six. It is my fifth year in the league, 544 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: and what is so exciting for me? And I'm not 545 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: a patient person and so it kind of sucks sometimes, 546 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: but it's exciting right now that people don't reach their 547 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: best basketball until they're thirty two years old in the league, 548 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: and so for me, like I'm making big strides. I 549 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: am staying here in the off season and I'm getting 550 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: a trainer, I've worked on my diet, I'm in the 551 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: weight room, my conditioning level. I'm doing some NBA TV 552 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: for the Suns, and that's actually opened up my perspective 553 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: of basketball off the court, of watching film almost and 554 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of exciting things on the court. Hopefully, 555 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, I can be a part of the three 556 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: v three Olympics with the USA Basketball, so I know 557 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: I'll get a shot at that. And so there's a 558 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: lot of exciting things basketball wise. But again, it's all 559 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: nice and shiny, but you still have to put in 560 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: the work and you have to get there, and so 561 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. I'd say, off the court, yeah, yeah, 562 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: everything looks nice, but it's the journey of getting there 563 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: and all the ups and downs, and but I'm looking 564 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: forward to it. And then off the court, I have 565 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: two AU teams. They're called Team Sophie Cunningham, and that 566 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: is like one of my biggest things that I love 567 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: is because I get to talk to these girls, I 568 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: get to help mentor you get to go to all 569 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: these tournaments around the country. Well let me say, all 570 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: these guys get to go to all these country or 571 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: all these tournaments around the country, and they get all 572 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: these they get like shoes they get bags, they get 573 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: all this gear and all that type of stuff, and 574 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: we just didn't like growing up. I know, like that 575 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: was ten years ago for me, but we just didn't 576 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: get that stuff. And so I'm an Adidas athlete, I'm 577 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: also a Quest athlete, and now I get to kind 578 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: of collab with these really two big companies and give 579 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: it back to these. 580 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: Girls who deserve it, and so I get really excited 581 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 4: about that. 582 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: And then I have the Sophie Cunningham Classic, which is 583 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: a all girls tournament pretty much, and we get to 584 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: throw a lot of cool people are there. ESPN is 585 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: going to be involved. We get to talk to these teams, 586 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: we get to help mentor these girls, and it's a 587 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: very interactive, hands on experience for these young athletes. So 588 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: it's super exciting, super fun, and I'm looking forward to 589 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: it again this year. 590 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 3: He touched on you know, women playing their best basketball 591 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: at age thirty two and older. We've already mentioned Diana 592 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 3: Trassi and Britney Griner. What is it like for you 593 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 3: to play on a team with these two incredible humans? 594 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, there's just like not a lot of words 595 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: to put into it, because they are Diane is. 596 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: The goat of the WNBA of. 597 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: Women's basketball in general, and so just to kind of 598 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: get a little piece of her mind and her mentorship 599 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: has been unbelievable. The way she thinks, like her and 600 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: Kobe are on the same level. And I always try 601 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: to tell people that because everyone knows Kobe, but she 602 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: is the woman Kobe, and like they are crazy, but 603 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: they are so freaking smart at the same time. And 604 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: then you have VEG who's the best post player in 605 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: the whole world, and you know, last year was super 606 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: tough for her family, for her, for us, and just 607 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: to kind of have her back and see her smile 608 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: and being able to play with one of the posts 609 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: the best post players that ever go through women's basketball 610 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: has also been super fun. But my relationships with both 611 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: of them are so so different. BVG is more chill, 612 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: She's more like me. She has a balance of when 613 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: she's done with practice, she's done, and then d you know, 614 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: he's always thinking. She's always thinking how we can get better, 615 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: what she can do to grow her game, and so 616 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: just kind of having the balance of both of them 617 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: have been fantastic. 618 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: If you're comfortable talking about it, I'd be so interested 619 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: to know from the inside looking out, like how just 620 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: all of I don't need to go into BG's story. 621 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: I think everyone's familiar with it now. 622 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: But now that you're in season, how that has impacted 623 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: your team as you're kind of moving forward here. 624 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: It is actually kind of hilarious because we've had her 625 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: back for a while, Like we see her every single day, 626 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: but every time we play a new team, So we 627 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: have eleven teams that we go to their home gym, 628 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: and every single time it's a new homecoming for VG 629 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: and so it's like hilarious because it's like eleven times 630 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: it's over and over, which it is so well deserved, 631 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Like the w fans fully deserved. They got behind her, 632 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: they got behind us, but it's just like funny to 633 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: us because we're like, oh, we haven't been here, Here 634 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: we go again, B And so she gets through standing ovation, 635 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: she gets her way, her moment. 636 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: Of fame, and it's just hilarious. 637 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: But to have her back and just to see the 638 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: support that not only the w gave us, but the 639 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: NBA men and women's soccer leagues, other sports and then 640 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: people who just aren't in sports has been absolutely unbelievable. 641 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: And I know that people have their different views about it, 642 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: and I get both sides of it, but I think 643 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people only know ten percent of the 644 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: story and what really happened. 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Can I just like stop you 697 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: for a second when you say stuff like that, like 698 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: does it shake you? 699 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: Are you like, Holy, isn't it insane? 700 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: No? 701 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: Because it is so like if people actually knew me, 702 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: and I promise you my best friends are like, if 703 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: these kids just knew you, or like these fans just 704 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: knew you, they would think you were the biggest work. 705 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like I know, and I'm like I don't 706 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: try to hide it, like I don't know. And that's 707 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: like one of the first things I tell people, like 708 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: when they are like starstruck and I that's weird enough, 709 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: that's weird to say but when they are, I'm just like, 710 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: I promise you I'm not that cool, Like I swear, 711 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: you're probably way cooler than me. And so I just 712 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: always just try to greet people with hugs and make 713 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: them feel comfortable because I didn't have a WNBA player who. 714 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: Was given back to us when we were younger. 715 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: Like, I just think it's so cool being from the 716 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: Midwest and being able to like go back and give 717 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: back and show kids that even if it's not basketball, 718 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: to like dream big whatever is like setting your soul 719 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: on fire, go for it. 720 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: And that's my biggest thing for him. 721 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: Who did you look up to when you were growing up? 722 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: And who would you say? Maybe some of your biggest 723 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: mentors are now. 724 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: Okay, that is a great question. 725 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: I just have always been a super competitive kid, and 726 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: so like when people are like who did you look 727 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: up to? I was just so dang stubborn. I was like, 728 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: no one, because like I'm going to be better than them? 729 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I like that? Why am I 730 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: like that? Like be nicer, be better? But if I 731 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: had to pick one, I'd pick me a ham Like 732 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be a soccer player. 733 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: My sister had the opportunity to play dual sport basketball 734 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: and college basketball and soccer in college, and I actually 735 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: did too, And I always wish that we would have 736 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: done it, Like I always think that would have been 737 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: so kind of badass with us, but it's too much. 738 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: So I think Mayaham was probably a mentor because she 739 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: was just a badass woman and she put USA women's 740 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: soccer on the map, like she was just like the it. 741 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: You know. Now, I think mentorship, I don't have one 742 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: specific person, but I have a lot of people from 743 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: from different areas, so, like I don't know if that 744 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: made sense. So I have like people for sport, I 745 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: have people for life. I have people for my finances, 746 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: for my mental health, for my diet, for doing outdoorsy stuff, 747 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: for doing country stuff or doing city stuff. Like I 748 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: just like the more that I get older, I just 749 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: think it is so important to not just choose one thing, 750 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: like kind of get your hand in everything that you're 751 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: passionate about, like try to learn as much as possible. 752 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: And I think having a growth mindset in every little 753 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: thing just like helps you be a well rounded human. 754 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's the answer you're looking for, but. 755 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: That's kind of I mean what I'm what I'm hearing 756 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: you say in this is you went from this place 757 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 3: where you were like I'm not going to look up 758 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: to anyone, to now being someone who's so open to 759 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 3: looking up to others and having mentors and asking for advice. 760 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: So would you say or can you articulate maybe like 761 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: a point where that change for you? 762 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 763 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: I think in college I was just like super competitive 764 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: and like I just wanted to I feel like I 765 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: just had so much to prove, but like for who 766 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: for what? 767 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 4: Right? 768 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: Like I I oh, no one anything like my I 769 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: think my mindset shifted when I stopped competing and being 770 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: competitive and compare myself to others, And now I just 771 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: like compare myself to myself, like I want to outdo me, 772 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: like I'm my biggest competition, Like I don't care who 773 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: you put in front of me. I know everything about myself. 774 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: I know my good and I know my bad, and 775 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm my biggest competition. And so I think that's when 776 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: my mind shifted, is because I stopped comparing myself to others. 777 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: And I don't even know how to explain it, like 778 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: I'm my biggest competition and so I think the older 779 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: that I'm getting, I want to learn from successful people, 780 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: Like I want to learn what they did to get 781 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: where they're at. I want to find true happiness, true piece, 782 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: true joy, Like I want to genuinely give back and 783 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: help people be genuinely happy and successful. And I think 784 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: that when you're just stuck in your own way, you're 785 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: never going to get there. And so that's why I 786 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: try to like learn and listen to as many people 787 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: as possible who are successful or where I want to 788 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: be one day to see what they did and kind 789 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: of take multiple pieces from different people and kind of 790 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: take what I want and make it myself. 791 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I really resonate with that. So for 792 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: someone who may be listening to this that really struggles 793 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 3: with falling into the comparison trap, as we love to 794 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: call it, do you have any advice for them? 795 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 4: Man? 796 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: I have been around the most famous people you can know, 797 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: people who have a lot of money, people who might 798 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: seem to have it all, and they are some of 799 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: the most unhappiest humans that you will ever meet. And 800 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: it's sad because I had a teammate who is a 801 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: very well known teammate and me as a rookie making 802 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars. She came up to me and she goes, 803 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: how are you so happy and full of life? Like 804 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: what I'm like, Give me your millions of dollars and 805 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: I'll be happy. 806 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: Like let's switch lives for a second. 807 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: And I just think that there are so many things 808 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: you can't put your your heart into two earthly things. 809 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: I think for me, I rely a lot on my faith, 810 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: and that's where my true joy, in my my identity 811 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: truly comes from is God. And I think that when 812 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: you try to put your identity into basketball, into money, 813 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: into fame, into being prettier or nicer or skinnier than 814 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: all these other girls or even guys, you're always gonna 815 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: feel empty. It's like chasing the wind. And so for me, 816 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: I put my identity in Christ, and I think that's 817 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: what really keeps me grounded and what makes me be 818 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: able to like truly be my authentic Haffy self. 819 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: It's interesting for me that I'm going to ask you 820 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: this question. 821 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: Be you, guys, I don't have, like us strong relationship 822 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 3: necessarily a strong religious affiliation. 823 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 2: Although I was raised Jewish. 824 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: So with being on the road with kind of being 825 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: all over the place all the time, how do you 826 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: anchor yourself in that religion and what do you do 827 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: to kind of keep up with your faith? 828 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's a great point because a 829 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: lot of people don't have religion. But I think for me, 830 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: it's like love conquers all. And I think that when 831 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: you can like truly love, and when you say love, 832 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: everyone's always like, oh like love other people, No, love yourself, 833 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: like love your flaws, love what makes you unique and 834 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: you different because other people will be looking at you 835 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: and wish they had that. And so I think for me, 836 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: you do travel all over the place, and I've been 837 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: here for two days and I'm about to leave for 838 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: six more days, right, so, like in in season is 839 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: just crazy. But for me, I just try to get 840 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: a routine. I take my Bible with me everywhere. Sometimes 841 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: I read it, sometimes I don't. But I think the 842 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: biggest thing for me is be a light, like shine 843 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: your light wherever you are and just try to be 844 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: a positive influence because I do think love and you 845 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: can just love people where they're at and meet them 846 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: where they're at, then that kind of show that helps 847 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: them love themselves as well. And so it's hard, especially 848 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: when when you are on this crazy schedule like we are. 849 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: It is hard to kind of have a routine and 850 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: find a community of people that might have the same 851 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: beliefs as you or have the same morals as you. 852 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I think when you 853 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: can just love people, that's the biggest thing. 854 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, when you said, like when you can 855 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 3: get to a place where you just meet yourself with 856 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 3: where you're at, it rings to me or it makes 857 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: me think about, you know, coming of age right and 858 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 3: getting to this point where it's so easy during your 859 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 3: teenage years too, Like we were talking about play that 860 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: comparison game and judge yourself so harshly. Do you remember 861 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 3: when you personally turn that corner and really just embraced 862 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: what it was that you had to offer instead of 863 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 3: judging yourself. 864 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm laughing because I'm such a late blimmer, 865 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: Like I promise you, I'm still like trying to g 866 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: bow up, you know what the girls says, like blow 867 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: up still because oh my god, I'm funny sack, because 868 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: I'm still like trying to like become the you know, 869 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: the best version of yourself. 870 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 4: Whatever. 871 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: But I think in high school, we just had a 872 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: good group of boys and girls that there wasn't a 873 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: lot of comparison. But you do find yourself in those 874 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: times of as an athlete and in high school when 875 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: like you're going through the weird puberty age, like you 876 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: you just look weird, right, Like everyone goes through it 877 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: and it's just like part of life. But I did 878 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: find myself sometimes like, man, like I wish I was skinnier, 879 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: Like why isn't my hair longer, thicker? Like why why 880 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: is her skin way clearer than mine? 881 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 882 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: Like, you do find yourself going through those things, and 883 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: it's like, wait a second, if I was that petite 884 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: or if I was that skinny, I'd be get my 885 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: butt kicked on the basketball court, like I would not 886 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: be who I was created to be. And so I 887 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: think for me, it's just finding the strength within yourself 888 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: and really like coming to terms and like enjoying who 889 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: you are and like whatever makes you weird or different 890 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: from everyone else, like that's what's cool, That's what attracts 891 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: people to you. And so I think just like embracing 892 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: that and being confident and finding a really small, good 893 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: group of people to like, love you and support you 894 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: regardless is huge. 895 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: You're too huge. 896 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 3: Aside from the fact that you say you're still in 897 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 3: your glow up era, although I would say like you 898 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 3: are glowing, what else makes you unique? Instellar and different 899 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: from everybody else? 900 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I don't know if I would use all 901 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: those terms, but I just don't try to fit in anymore. 902 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's so important for I think young 903 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: guys to hear, because I think young athletes in general, 904 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: male or female, you miss out on a lot of 905 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. You miss out on prom you 906 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: missed out on school dances. You don't maybe get to 907 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: go hang out or go to the party or whatever 908 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: you want to call it with all your people because 909 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: you have games or I remember au ball, I wasn't 910 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: home all summer. I was home for three days my 911 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: junior year of summer. So you missed out on a bunch. 912 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: But with great things comes with great sacrifice. And I 913 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: think that that's something that I just had to like 914 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: hang my hat on. Is like I'm putting in the 915 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: work for something greater and I might not see the 916 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: benefits of it now, but in six years when I'm 917 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: the WNBA and I'm on ESPN and I get to 918 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: do these cool things, I'll know that it's worth it. 919 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: And so for me, sometimes you have to think big 920 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: picture and then sometimes you have to think small picture. 921 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 4: And so. 922 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just try not to fit anymore. 923 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: I think when I laugh at on the court, I 924 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: smile a lot on the court. I'm feisty on the court, 925 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: and sometimes that gets me in trouble. But that's what 926 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: makes me me, and that's why the fans gather around me. 927 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: That's why I love the fans, because they're all a 928 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: lot more like than the things. 929 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 3: So what would you say one of the most difficult 930 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 3: sacrifices you've had to make in your come up in 931 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 3: sport has been. 932 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: A thousand thousand percent being away from my family and friends. 933 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 4: Like I get to. 934 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: Do really cool things, you know, you get to play 935 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: in all these cool stadiums, you get to go to 936 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: these cool cities, you get invited to full events. Yet 937 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: you don't get to ever have your best friends coming 938 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: along with you. You don't get to have your parents come 939 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 1: along with you. And I'm someone who I got really 940 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: blessed with a great family and a really good group 941 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: of friends. And I missed them like crazy, and so 942 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: if I could move all them out here, it would 943 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: be a million times better because I just know that 944 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: people would out here in Phoenix would fall in love 945 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: with my family friends, just kind of how they fell 946 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: in love with me. But I think just being away 947 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: from home and missing out on weddings, missing out on 948 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: your close friends having kids, missing out on family dinners, 949 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: friends hanging out, going to the lake like it is 950 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: the small things and big things that it kind of sucks. 951 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: But then again, you know you can't live this lifestyle forever, 952 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: so you have to embrace it and put your best 953 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: foot forward. 954 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: And put your best foot forward. How often would you 955 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 3: say that you get back to where you grew up. 956 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: As much as possible. And so if I have a 957 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: couple of days off, I'm going back home. And sometimes 958 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: I wish I would go to Cabo and just hang out, 959 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: But I know that going back home and see my 960 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: friends and family is going to fill my cup up 961 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: a lot more than you know, probably tequila on the beach. 962 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 3: Heard heard, Yeah, I mean, speaking of filling up your cup. 963 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 2: What else do you do to take care of Sophie? 964 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I make sure I know I really do live 965 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: a very kind of simple life, like to fill my 966 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: cup up and to make sure I'm in a good 967 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: mental zone. I need to get to the pool, I 968 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: need to get a tan, I need to maybe go 969 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: to the hair slan make sure my hair is a 970 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: little blonder, because if you look good, you play good. 971 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: And I do need to get my nails done. Already 972 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: showed you that. But outside of that, I think one 973 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: of the other things that really makes me feel good 974 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 1: is helping out with the Ronald McDonald House, helping out 975 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: with the Boys and Girls Club, like giving back the 976 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: Children's Hospital is a huge, big thing that I love 977 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: to do. And it's just like give to others that 978 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: maybe things that they won't be able to do when 979 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: they're older because of difficulties that they had to go 980 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: through that I never got to go through or had 981 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: to go through, I should say. And so I think 982 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: giving back is really what helps my heart grow fonder 983 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: and helps me really enjoy where I'm at, because sometimes 984 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: it is easy to complain. It's easy to kind of 985 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: get caught up in the grind. It's easy to you know, 986 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: kind of like sometimes because you do get you do 987 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: miss out on so much especially during the summertime and 988 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: you get a lot of fomo. It's like, what can 989 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: I do to help someone else feel good? And then 990 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 1: that's kind of what helps me feel good. 991 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially in a sport or so often, like 992 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 3: y'all are traveling all over the place and even in 993 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 3: the off season going overseas, so you know, it's something 994 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 3: that so many athletes, regardless of order, are navigating all 995 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 3: the time. 996 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think that's something a lot of people 997 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: don't know, is WNBA players. We're here from you know, 998 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 1: early May until mid October, and then you're shipped off overseas. 999 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: You're in Turkey, used to be Russia, anywhere in Europe 1000 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: and Australia and you're there for solid seven months. And 1001 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: so that's where we make our money. That's where it's crazy, 1002 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: because the WNBA is like the most elite level basketball, 1003 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: but you get paid the worst and so that's why 1004 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: you have to go overseas in order to know kind 1005 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: of to make your money. 1006 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 2: How has that experience been for you traveling overseas? 1007 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am the wrong person to ask those wildvan 1008 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I think my rookie year, 1009 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: I went over to Australia, absolutely fantastic, loved it, loved 1010 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,479 Speaker 1: the culture. My sister actually came with me. We had 1011 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: like the time of our lives. And then COVID happened, 1012 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: and then my third year I went over to France 1013 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: how to love the girls, how a good experience got injured, 1014 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: And once you get injured over there, they don't want 1015 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: anything to do with yet. And so my good experience 1016 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: turned bad really quick. And then after that I was 1017 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: like done, Like I just it just wasn't my thing. 1018 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel like I wanted to train. 1019 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to be home. My grandparents are getting older, 1020 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, and they have a huge family farm, and 1021 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: so I wanted to help out there as much as possible. 1022 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: And then last year, when I just kind of hurt 1023 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: my other elbow, I just decided to stay out here 1024 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: in Arizona, and I kind of got into broadcasting and 1025 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it, and so I'm going to probably 1026 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: be doing that and training the off season from here 1027 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: on out. 1028 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. 1029 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 3: Just for context, can you give us some examples of 1030 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 3: things that you are doing on the farm. 1031 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, girl, I should have brought you out 1032 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: there and we could have done it firsthand. But okay, 1033 00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: so it depends on the season. So we have planting 1034 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: season and harvesting season and so planting season like you're 1035 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: out in the field until like six am, excuse me, 1036 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 1: six am until you know, probably around seven whenever it 1037 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: gets dark. 1038 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 4: So not bad. 1039 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 1: But my first year like legit farming farming was during COVID, 1040 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: and like we just to go out there just like 1041 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: for you know, gigs and whatnot and not like really 1042 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: doing anything. Like, oh, we were on the farm helping 1043 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: our pawpall, but during COVID we were actually like farming 1044 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: and we had to get up at like five am 1045 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: and to not go to sleep until one am. And 1046 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: my grandpa is like seventy nine years old doing this, 1047 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: you know, since he was six years old, and I'm like, 1048 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's way stronger than me, just like 1049 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: he just has a I don't know. Farmers are just 1050 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 1: smart because they have to know a little bit about 1051 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 1: the economy, the weather, plant like all that type of stuff. 1052 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: And I just I just didn't realize how hard it was. 1053 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: And I will never be a farmer again. 1054 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: Just a little insight into what farming looks like for 1055 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 3: the wmbas so Vahr. Well, right now, I know we 1056 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 3: talked a little bit about social media and Instagram before. 1057 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 3: You've got something like one hundred and eighteen thousand followers 1058 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 3: on Instagram. When they come to your page, they see 1059 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 3: a WNBA player, they see an Adidas athlete. What you 1060 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 3: look in the mirror? What is it that you see 1061 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 3: looking back at you? 1062 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 4: I love I love that question. 1063 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: When I look at myself in the mirror, I'm proud 1064 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: of everything I've been through, but I'm not satisfied like 1065 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: I want to. I just have so many goals that 1066 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: I haven't accomplished. But I'm also just so grateful and 1067 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: so happy with where I'm at. And then, like I said, 1068 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: it's not always easy, and there's hard days. There's things 1069 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: that just don't go my way. I don't feel like 1070 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: it's fair. But at the end of the day, I'm 1071 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: very blessed, I'm very grateful, and I'm just here to 1072 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: give back. And so I hope when people come to 1073 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: my page they feel a sense of happiness, they feel 1074 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: like they belong there. 1075 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 4: When I look in the mirror. 1076 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: I see a lot of growth, see where I want 1077 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: to be but I'm content but not satisfied. And so 1078 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, I'm a hot mess. I see 1079 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff. 1080 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: Content but not satisfied. 1081 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 3: You know, that's the second time in our conversation today 1082 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 3: that you said I have a lot of goals. 1083 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 2: Do you care to elaborate. 1084 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,479 Speaker 4: I'll give you one. 1085 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: I don't have to give away all the secrets. It's cool. 1086 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: No, No, There's just been something in my gut ever 1087 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: since I was a young girl that I want to 1088 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: be an Olympian, Like I just want to be an Olympian, 1089 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: and so that is a main goal of mine. I 1090 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: don't care if it's three v three. I don't care 1091 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: if it's five on five, like, I don't care what 1092 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: it is. But I want a gold medal. And so 1093 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: that is a goal, and you best believe I'm going 1094 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: to be working my tail off until I get it. 1095 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. 1096 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those things that you put 1097 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 3: it into the universe, and the universe conspires to work 1098 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 3: with you to get you to where you want to be. 1099 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 3: So I doubt that's the first time you've said that 1100 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 3: out loud. But now all of these people that are listening, 1101 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 3: are going to help hold you accountable, and they're going 1102 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 3: to want it for you as well. 1103 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: Okay, but if I don't, then you guys can just 1104 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 1: meet me at the pool and we can hang out 1105 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: and we can watch it. 1106 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 3: So we're going to Arizona. Yeah, perfect. I already asked you, 1107 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: like what excites you right now? But what else are 1108 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 3: you looking forward to in the immediate future besides working 1109 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 3: your tail off to get maybe to Paris or who knows, 1110 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 3: La twenty twenty eight. 1111 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: Man, I think getting my feet a little bit more 1112 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: wet in the broadcasting industry. I think I have a 1113 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: great opportunity here with the Suns. They have a stacked 1114 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: roster this year, and I think it's going to be 1115 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, a lot of hype around the 1116 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: valley out here in Arizona. I just think, get my 1117 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: feet wet in industries that I think I'll want to 1118 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: do when I'm done playing basketball, which is another you know, 1119 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: fifty years right, Like, I don't want to retire anytime soon, 1120 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: but I do think the broadcasting area is kind of 1121 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: where I want to go, and so just trying to 1122 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: get better at that. It's a lot harder than it looks. 1123 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I tried starting a podcast and 1124 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: that's hard too, Like being flowy and and your questions 1125 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: on par and doing all that, Like you do a 1126 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: fantastic job, and it's a lot harder than people think. 1127 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 2: It is, so so sweet. 1128 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 4: Steps to you, Sis, thank you. 1129 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: Well. 1130 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 3: You and I can jam about podcasting whatever you want. 1131 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 3: We'll have to have a one on one. I'm here 1132 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 3: to help, I'm here to mentor you. 1133 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 2: Sophie, there a GOALSI. 1134 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 3: All right, girl, Well, right now you have an opportunity 1135 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 3: to offer yourself a piece of advice. Let's go back. 1136 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 3: You talked about that rut that you were in not 1137 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 3: all that long ago, you knowing what you know. Now 1138 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice. 1139 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 3: Going through a period where you're just not satisfied with 1140 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 3: the work that you're putting out. What do you tell 1141 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 3: yourself during that hurdle moment? 1142 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: For me, I'm just stubborn and I don't have patience, 1143 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: and that's something that I know I need to work on, 1144 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 1: Like everyone knows that. But for me, even though I'm 1145 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: frustrated and annoyed, my piece of advice is still put 1146 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: in the work, even if the work is ugly, even 1147 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: if you know you're in the gym and you're not 1148 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: making your shots, at least you're in there at least 1149 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: like putting in the work. And I do feel like 1150 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: that if you are the hardest worker and you genuinely 1151 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: want to get better and put in that work. It's 1152 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: not always fun, but you have to then the ball 1153 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: won't lie and you're not gonna be stuck in a 1154 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: rep forever. And I think that's the biggest advice that 1155 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: they gave me. 1156 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 4: At the time. 1157 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: They were like, my mentors were like laughing at me 1158 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: because I knew how frustrated and they're like, girl, this 1159 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: happens to everyone. Like I'm like, I'm gonna like stay 1160 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: like this for like ever because I'm just drama, you know. 1161 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: And they're like, no, like this happens to everyone. Just 1162 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: keep putting in the work, like you're fine. It's not 1163 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: gonna last forever. And I think that's the biggest piece 1164 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,439 Speaker 1: of advice is don't get too high. 1165 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 3: Don't get too high, don't get too low. Sophie Cunningha'm 1166 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 3: so happy that we were able to make this happen. 1167 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 3: A huge sponsor a huge thank you to your sponsor 1168 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 3: at Quest for connecting us. For those of the hurdlers, 1169 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 3: that's what I call my audience that don't follow along 1170 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 3: with you just yet. 1171 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 2: How do they keep up with you? How do they 1172 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 2: follow along with you? Give us your details? 1173 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well, you can go to my end Instagram, 1174 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: you can go to my TikTok. I promise you that 1175 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: people might think I'm feisty, but we have a good time. 1176 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: On the socials. We are very authentic. We want to help, 1177 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: we want to become friends over there. And so it's 1178 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 1: Sophie Underscore, Seahan. 1179 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm over at Emila Badi and at Hurdle Podcast another 1180 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 3: Hurdle Conquered. 1181 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time,