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Speaker 2: Oh have they lost faith in him already? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: only Bucky Brooks. Bucky, have you disguised? Have you kind

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Speaker 2: of rested up a little bit from these draft TV shows?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's amazing. Really, every telly you turn to

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Speaker 2: it's a draft. It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is amazing. It's amazing how popular the draft is.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing how many people have an interest in just

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Speaker 4: watching their favorite team select players. But look, it's an

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Speaker 4: exhausting weekend, but it's a really rewarding weekend because all

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Speaker 4: the work that you've done throughout the year, tracking the players,

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Speaker 4: talking about the team, you finally have an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: see a play out.

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Speaker 5: I got to ask you, how much of the draft?

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Speaker 5: Did you watch?

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Speaker 3: All of it?

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Speaker 6: All?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 5: You went every single see.

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Speaker 2: I watched first night and I wanted to see how

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Speaker 2: my local Cincinnati Bengals did it.

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Speaker 5: Pick eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I watched most of round two and that now is

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Speaker 2: the second day, and other than that, I kind of

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Speaker 2: switched back and forth. But it was very obvious to

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Speaker 2: me how the NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Avoided the NBA Draft. Did you see the scheduling?

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Speaker 2: They did not play much going head to head against

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. And look, to me, the NFL has

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Speaker 2: become like the big bed bullying sports. You know, they're

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Speaker 2: on top of the mountain and everybody wants to try

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Speaker 2: to get to that mountain. They can't get through it.

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Speaker 2: And it amazes me. This is not even a sporting

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Speaker 5: It's just a draft.

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Speaker 2: It's four hundred thousand people, the announcers said, well, lining

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Speaker 2: the streets of Detroit to watch people get picked in

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Speaker 2: a draft, you know, hooting and hollering, getting drunk, were

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Speaker 2: in jerseys from their favorite teams.

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Speaker 5: It was amazing to me, and I.

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Speaker 2: Scratched my head and said, I don't think i'd want

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Speaker 2: to go there. I mean, I have no desire to

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Speaker 2: stand out in the street of Detroit and yell and

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Speaker 4: It's become a football festival. It's become a celebration of

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Speaker 4: sorts of the game. And one of the best things

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Speaker 4: that they've done is taking the show on the road.

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Speaker 3: I remember a few years ago when.

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Speaker 4: It used to just be in Radio City Music Hall

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Speaker 4: then they moved to Chicago due to a scheduling conflict,

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Speaker 4: and after that they've opened it up and what we

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Speaker 4: being around the game. Detroit was fantastic. I want to say,

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Speaker 4: over a three day period they had almost eight hundred

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Speaker 4: in the event. And you said, look, there's nothing about

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Speaker 4: the draft that's really exciting. You hear people get their

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Speaker 3: But it just tells you that the pool football has.

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Speaker 4: On the American view in public, like they just can't

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Speaker 2: It amazes me because every draft, every spare as a draft,

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Speaker 5: They really don't. I'm not even just in June, I know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any TV ratings to speak of

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Speaker 5: To the major leagues. You know, in.

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Speaker 2: College with football, it's like boom, this guy's gonna help

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Speaker 2: it's a big event. I get it, you know. To me,

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Speaker 2: it's like I scratched my head. I can never believe it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure there are people who have old timers

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Speaker 2: even the commissioner scratches his head when they say you

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Speaker 2: know what. I'm amaze. You know, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: this took off, but it's an amazing event and it's

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Speaker 2: a great thing for the NFL. To me, it's almost

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Speaker 5: That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because all of the hope begins with the draft.

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Speaker 4: It starts with free agency, but it really kind of

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Speaker 3: You have a reason to be optimistic.

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Speaker 4: The NFL does a great job of selling these players

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Speaker 4: that we're bringing in they're going to help your team

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Speaker 3: As a fan, that's all you're looking for. You're looking

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Speaker 4: Reason to be optimistic that this is going to be

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Speaker 4: so many cinderella stories from worse to first teams that

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Speaker 3: And it all starts with the way that.

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Speaker 4: The NFL sales hope and opportunity on free agency and

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Speaker 4: the draft.

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Speaker 2: Big question for you right now, did you do better?

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Speaker 2: I know you got a several mock drafts right a

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Speaker 2: NFL Dot com did you do better your mock draft

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Speaker 2: or your Ncuba basketball bracket.

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Speaker 4: I think I did better my mock draft because I

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Speaker 4: think I ended up having the first six picks. I

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Speaker 4: think nine of the thirty two were like proper player,

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Speaker 4: were proper team. But yeah, it's different. The Ncuba tournament.

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Speaker 4: It was just a nightmare for me. A lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that, I know the feeling about that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you talk about the picks. Four quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: look the NFL right now, especially in the first day,

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Speaker 2: it's all about funding superstars, stars of the future. The

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Speaker 2: basically what it's all about. And that's why the first

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Speaker 2: about that first round. People are going crazy about the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons and what they do with their pick. Right now, Look,

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Speaker 2: they signed a new franchise quarterback in Kirk Cousins. The

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Speaker 2: some surgery. And then they draft from the University of

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Speaker 2: Washington Machol Pennix Junior at a number eight pick. Everybody

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Speaker 2: say it's a stunner. I'm going the other way. I'm

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Speaker 2: swimming upstream. I don't think it's such a stunner. First

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Speaker 2: of all, you have told me many a time that

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Speaker 2: you can't win in the NFL without a quarterback. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you look at Kirk Cousins, you're coming off the surgery.

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Speaker 2: He's no kid, right, And I think what the Falcons

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Speaker 2: Pennix is no kid. He's about twenty six years of age.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think there's such a stunner. And everybody's

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's such a bad deal.

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Speaker 3: I really don't, you know, I don't think it's a

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Speaker 4: I think where people are having a tough time with

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Speaker 3: And we have kind of fallen into.

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins is thirty six years old, he's coming off

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins and his.

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Speaker 4: Agent were obviously upset that they didn't get contacted until

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Speaker 3: Their intentions for the world to mess it up. So

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Speaker 4: And the other thing, you don't tell kirct hey Man,

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Speaker 4: free agency because ultimately he's the player. You're the general

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Speaker 4: Michael Penix turns up to be the player that they

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Speaker 4: three years. And that's why as a general manager, you

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Speaker 3: You have to do things that are in the best

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Speaker 5: On draft night, Well said, I love what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I mean, quarterbacks nothing in this league without one, number two,

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Speaker 2: be insurance. And number four, the kind of guy that

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is. He reached out to Michael Penick Junior.

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Speaker 2: At least that's what we heard, and I think that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was blindsided by it, But I don't think the

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Speaker 2: because when you tell one person, you're eventually gonna tell everybody.

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Speaker 5: That's the problem. Got to keep it quiet. No, I

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Speaker 2: I think I read this as well that the owner,

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Speaker 2: Arthur Blank, he was blindsided as well. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: he pays guys to make those decisions. It's not his pick.

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Speaker 2: They did what they had to do, and he's Pendix's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a great backup. He's not gonna start, I'm sure,

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Speaker 4: And I would expect Kurt to be a professional, to

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Speaker 2: When was the last time that had an offense like this?

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Speaker 2: of course, Bucky, you got someone fired up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Wayne from Virginia wants to talk to you. Wayne, You're

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Speaker 5: How you doing.

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Speaker 5: Thank you good good.

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Speaker 6: I love to hear, love to hear Brooks. Mister Muckett

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Speaker 6: Brooks man, I want to ask you how you feel

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Speaker 3: And when you do that, what.

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Speaker 4: You do is you create a more talented roster and

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Speaker 2: knew that. Everybody on the planet knew they were going

439
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Speaker 2: to draft Caleb Williams from USC as number one.

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Speaker 5: But look what they did after that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about if they're trading justin Fields

442
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Speaker 2: to the Steelers. Obviously they had to get a quarterback,

443
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Speaker 2: and they got the quarterback that everybody thought they would

444
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Speaker 2: have for their succession playing down the road. But look

445
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Speaker 2: what they've got now. They may very well have the

446
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Speaker 2: best receiving core of football.

447
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Speaker 4: Now.

448
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Speaker 2: They got Dj Moore, Keenan Allen, a quality third guy.

449
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Speaker 2: I guess in the draft when when they pick up

450
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Speaker 2: Romeo doonza I mean, honestly, I don't think there's any

451
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Speaker 2: trio in the National Football League that is a better

452
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Speaker 2: receiving court than Chicago Bears right now.

453
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's definitely a nice receiving court.

454
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Speaker 4: They've done a really good job of upgrading the weapons

455
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Speaker 4: on the perimeter. Dj Moore got a playmate early in

456
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Speaker 4: the offseason when they traded for Keenan Allen. Bringing over

457
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Speaker 4: Roma Doonzay, who's the consuman professional and really a very

458
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Speaker 4: interchangeable piece and playmaker on the perimeter allows them to

459
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Speaker 4: have three big bodies on the perimeter to go with

460
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Speaker 4: Cole Kmet and even Gerald Everett, so they have.

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Speaker 3: A lot of options.

462
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Speaker 4: Shane Waltson has a lot of options to make the

463
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Speaker 4: game for Kayler Williams. They can line up in multiple

464
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Speaker 4: tight end sets, they can line up in empty formations,

465
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Speaker 4: they can spread it and shredd it. They have DeAndre

466
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Speaker 4: Swift in the backfield where they can run it.

467
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Speaker 3: There are a lot of things to like about the offense.

468
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Speaker 4: That the Bears have assemboled, but now it's on Shane

469
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Speaker 4: Waldron to deal with the pressure putting it together. The

470
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Speaker 4: expectations are going to be through the roof, and for

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Speaker 4: a team that has never really had to deal with

472
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Speaker 4: high expectations, particularly on the offense, it's gonna be it

473
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Speaker 4: could be uncomfortable for them because everyone is going to

474
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Speaker 4: expect Keayler Williams to hit the ground, run it, and

475
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Speaker 4: to look like Patrick Mahomes right out the gate, regardless

476
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Speaker 4: of him being a rookie, because he's been built up

477
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Speaker 4: to be this mythical superhero. That's the expectation. That's a

478
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Speaker 4: lot to deal with when you're a young player. And

479
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Speaker 4: we'll see how not only does he deal with it,

480
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Speaker 4: how does Shane Waldron as a play caller deal with it?

481
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Speaker 4: Because all eys will be on the Bears offense.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's almost not fair what they do to

483
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Speaker 2: these athletes, because after they drafted Kayleb Williams heard and

484
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Speaker 2: read about that he was the highest graded player regardless.

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Speaker 5: Of any position on the board.

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Speaker 2: All Right, so I'm saying to myself, this guy better

487
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Speaker 2: make it in the National Football League, otherwise he's gonna

488
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Speaker 2: be considered a flop. I don't think people who write

489
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Speaker 2: these things, and obviously the people who write them are

490
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Speaker 2: not players, have never played the game. But if these

491
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Speaker 2: guys don't make it, they're gonna get drilled pretty hard

492
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Speaker 2: in the media. I don't think it's fair. That's the

493
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Speaker 2: way it is. That's the way it's going to be.

494
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Speaker 2: That way it always has been. But again, the pressure

495
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Speaker 2: on these people, not just the people who make the

496
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Speaker 2: position or make the picks or the coaches like you say,

497
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Speaker 2: but I think that the player themselves.

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Speaker 5: They have to.

499
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Speaker 2: Go out there and perform, and the expectations obviously through

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Speaker 2: the roof.

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Speaker 5: And I think that when you go from.

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Speaker 2: College to the pros, it's a heck of a leap,

503
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Speaker 2: it really is. And I don't think it's fair what

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Speaker 2: they're doing here. Hey, if the Bears lose the first

505
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Speaker 2: two three bull games next year and he has a

506
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Speaker 2: couple of interceptions, it's going to be hell to pay

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Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 5: It really will be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be tough for him, But I mean that's

510
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Speaker 4: kind of or to deal too.

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Speaker 3: That's pro sports and you have to be ready for it.

512
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Speaker 4: And that's why when you're investigating the players, you got

513
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Speaker 4: to make sure they have the right football character makeup

514
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Speaker 4: to handle the expectations that everyone will have of them.

515
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Speaker 4: You know, Kayley Williams has to be able to, you know,

516
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Speaker 4: deal with the criticism and the noise that is around him.

517
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Speaker 4: And he has to do it without succumbing to the noise.

518
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Speaker 4: Changing as a player one of the things. And that's

519
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Speaker 4: why the maturity question will always come into play when

520
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Speaker 4: you select these players. Are they mature enough to handle

521
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Speaker 4: what is on the horizon for them? Can they handle

522
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Speaker 4: the expectations that are going to be on them. I mean, look,

523
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Speaker 4: it's significant. It comes with a lot of noise, but

524
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Speaker 4: you got to be able to handle it. And if

525
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Speaker 4: you handle it the right way, look, there won't be

526
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Speaker 4: any issues when it comes to how you perform, how

527
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Speaker 4: the team performs, and those things.

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Speaker 3: You just got to.

529
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Speaker 4: Focus on what you're in control of and you can't

530
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Speaker 4: worry about all the noise that comes with the media speculation.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to call out some of my brethren

532
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Speaker 2: in the media because I remember when they when I

533
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Speaker 2: think it was the Washington game, when you know USC

534
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: lost that game, was Caleb Williams went to the Stands

535
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Speaker 2: was crying to his mom, Remember that, and everybody said, well,

536
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Speaker 2: he doesn't have the maturity. You know, he's crying. He's

537
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Speaker 2: going to be a leader, and how could you be

538
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Speaker 2: a leader when you're crying? Right, and then all of

539
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Speaker 2: a sudden, now on the draft night, he's a great leader.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 2: I understand. Look, so he's crying, big freaking deal. He cried.

543
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Speaker 2: It was a tough loss. You know what, I'd rather

544
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Speaker 2: him cry to go out there and party and laugh.

545
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Speaker 2: When you think about it, he took the game to heart.

546
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Speaker 2: He cares, so he cried. A lot of athletes cry.

547
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen it in the locker when you

548
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Speaker 2: played losing a big game. There's some guys that cry.

549
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Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. But they're saying is

550
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Speaker 2: not a good leader because of that hogwash.

551
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Speaker 5: That's what it is. Hogwash. Can't believe it.

552
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Speaker 3: That's what I think. What happens is.

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Speaker 4: I think what happens is when you look at those

554
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Speaker 4: things from a scouts vantage point, you just worry about

555
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Speaker 4: the emotional control. Okay, so does he have enough emotional

556
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Speaker 4: control to hold it together in these tough moments?

557
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Speaker 3: Will he break down in public? If things aren't going

558
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Speaker 3: our way.

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Speaker 4: If we're on a three, four or five game skid

560
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Speaker 4: and he's not playing well, how is he going to

561
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Speaker 4: be able.

562
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Speaker 3: To handle it?

563
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Speaker 4: When the media wants to talk to him, he's going

564
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Speaker 4: to break down publicly? Is it going to be too

565
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Speaker 4: much for him? All of those things factor in. It's

566
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Speaker 4: not about him not being a human and not being

567
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Speaker 4: able to express himself, but it is about, hey, let's

568
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Speaker 4: talk about this guy. This guy's going to be the

569
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Speaker 4: face of the franchise. How is he going to handle

570
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Speaker 4: all of the expectations. Does he have the maturity to

571
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Speaker 4: be able to do it? Is he emotional stable enough

572
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Speaker 4: to be able to handle those things?

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Speaker 3: It is a valid question.

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Speaker 4: And I know everyone is really upset about the way

575
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Speaker 4: scouts go about their business because there was a controversy

576
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Speaker 4: around Spencer Ratler, the quarterback that Sounds that ended up

577
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Speaker 4: being drafted by the New Orleans Saints, and people were

578
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Speaker 4: discussing why are scouts looking and taking clues from his

579
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Speaker 4: appearance on a reality series in high school called QB One. Well,

580
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 4: the reason we're doing that is because we want to

581
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Speaker 4: know who the player is, and that's a part of

582
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Speaker 4: his being. That's a part of his childhood and how

583
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Speaker 4: he's come up. And yeah, sure he may have evolved

584
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Speaker 4: and matured from that, but it gave us a peek

585
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Speaker 4: behind the curtain on who.

586
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Speaker 3: He is, what he is, and what he's about.

587
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Speaker 4: And I am surprised that so many people are really

588
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Speaker 4: upset about that. But man, when you're digging and investigating,

589
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Speaker 4: that's part of the deal. You're making potentially multi million

590
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Speaker 4: dollar investments in young people, and so you just want

591
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Speaker 4: to know what makes them tick to give you the

592
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Speaker 4: best opportunity to surround them and support them the right way,

593
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: while also protecting yourself by knowing, here's who we're getting.

594
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Speaker 4: This is exactly what we need to prepare for. Just

595
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Speaker 4: in the event that something happens, we at least know

596
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Speaker 4: we know how to best handle it because we prepare

597
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Speaker 4: for it.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me squeezing Randy. Randy wants to talk you.

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Speaker 2: Randy from Florida. You're on Fox Sports Sunday with Bucky Brooks, Ollo.

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Speaker 9: Ran More and gentlemen, the son's coming up down here

601
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Speaker 9: Fort Myers real quick, and I want to ask you.

602
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Speaker 9: I'm a Florida Gator grad and we haven't done much lately.

603
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 9: I hear people are also upset about the Parasol pick.

604
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Speaker 9: So I want to see what Bucky thought about that.

605
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Speaker 9: And I'm a Bucks guy. I never heard of this

606
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Speaker 9: center coming out of Duke. But that's all I want

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Speaker 9: to know. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so let's take take him one bar one. Ricky

609
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 4: Pirosol great player, was a great player down in the swamp,

610
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Speaker 4: one of the best wide receivers that was on the board.

611
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Speaker 4: And I think he's a phenomenal addition to the San

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Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: My take on it.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan saw what happened in the Super Bowl. He

615
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Speaker 4: saw how the Kancity Chiefs scrapped their game plan, decided

616
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Speaker 4: to play more man demand, and it bogged down the offense.

617
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Speaker 4: In anticipation of what is going to happen this year,

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Speaker 4: he wanted to have answers to those tactics. Normally, what

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Speaker 4: happens is in the offseason, every team studies the top teams,

620
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Speaker 4: and they study how to defeat the top teams.

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Speaker 3: When they popped in the tape.

622
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Speaker 4: And saw how Kansas City slowed down the Niners, Kyle

623
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Speaker 4: Shanahan's like, hey man, we need to get ready for this,

624
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: we're going to see more man demand. So what he

625
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 4: wants is someone to go with Brandon Nyuk. So now

626
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: they have multiple route runners who can get open to

627
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: take some of the pressure off of Deebo Samuels, because

628
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Speaker 4: Deebo Samy is a terrific player, but he's more of

629
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Speaker 4: a guy when you get the ball in his hands,

630
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Speaker 4: that's when his magic happens. Brandon Ayuk and Ricky Pearsol

631
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Speaker 4: are more guys that can create space and separation, and

632
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: you're trying to give those guys more opportunities. So to me,

633
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: it is anticipating the man demand tactics that teams will

634
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Speaker 4: use against him, and you want to have more personnel.

635
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Speaker 4: Graham Barton going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers another fantastic pick.

636
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Speaker 4: And the reason why he's fantastic. He's a guy that

637
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: can play every position on the offensive line tackle, guard, center,

638
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: right or left, it doesn't matter. Started his career as

639
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Speaker 4: a center at Duke before kicking all the way outside

640
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Speaker 4: to tackle. Given the losses that the Temp Bay Buccaneers

641
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 4: head inside, Graham Bordon can field multiple needs and so

642
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: it gives them an opportunity to just put their best

643
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Speaker 4: five linement on the field and figure it out so

644
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Speaker 4: they can play musical chairs to get that done.

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Speaker 5: There you go, Thank you for the call, and we

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Speaker 5: move on. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next on Fox Life from the tierrack dot

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Speaker 2: com Studios, one NFL quarterback is finally off the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you who he is. But first, Kevin Wye.

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Speaker 2: We apologize being a little bit late. We got all

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Speaker 2: the sports.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we got a busy day on Saturday as the

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Speaker 10: Lakers keep their season alive. They extended at least by

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Speaker 10: one more game by beating the Denver Nuggets in Los

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Speaker 10: Angeles one nineteen two. One oh wait, so there will

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Speaker 10: be a Game five in that series? Is Anthony Davis

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Speaker 10: a strong performance twenty five points twenty three rebounds. The

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Speaker 10: Oklahoma City Thunder take a commanding three to nothing lead

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Speaker 10: in that series after they beat the New Orleans Pelicans

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Speaker 10: one oh six eighty five. The Boston Celtics an easy

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Speaker 10: time of it against the Miami Heat one oh four

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Speaker 10: to eighty four, so the Celtics up ahead in their

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Speaker 10: series two to one. The series between the Magic and

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Speaker 10: the Cavaliers now tied at two. Orlando with another dominating

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Speaker 10: win against the Cavs one twelve to eighty nine, and

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Speaker 10: we have some injury updates for Sunday's games. Giannis He

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Speaker 10: is doubtful for his game against the Indiana Pacers. He

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Speaker 10: has been missing some time with his strang CAF and

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Speaker 10: it's looking unlikely that he will be able to suit

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Speaker 10: up on Sunday. Damian Lillarde same thing. He's also doubtful.

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Speaker 10: He strained his achilles and on Saturday was seen walking

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Speaker 10: in a boot, so we'll see if he will be

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Speaker 10: able to go for Milwaukee against the Pacers. The Clippers

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Speaker 10: Kawhi Leonard he is questionable with knee inflammation. If you recall,

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Speaker 10: he did miss the first game against the Mavericks of

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Speaker 10: this series, so they're not sure if he will be

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Speaker 10: able to go on Sunday. In the NHL, we had

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Speaker 10: a couple of overtime games as the Dallas Stars get

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Speaker 10: their first win of the series against the Vegas Golden Knights,

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Speaker 10: winning at three to two with about four minutes ago

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Speaker 10: in the overtime period. Vegas dough is still ahead of

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Speaker 10: that series two games to one, and the Islanders extend

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Speaker 10: their season. They got a win in double overtime against

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Speaker 10: the Carolina Panthers three too, so Carolina head three to one.

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Speaker 10: Florida is ahead three to one, but they did drop

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Speaker 10: a game to the Tampa Bay Lightning on Saturday six

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Speaker 10: to three. The Boston Brewins three to one winners at Toronto.

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Speaker 10: They're ahead three to one in that series and the

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Speaker 10: NFL Draft concluding on Saturday. And an interesting note, after

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Speaker 10: bo Nix was taken with a twelfth overall pick in

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Speaker 10: the first round, there was not another quarterback taken until

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Speaker 10: Spencer Ratler was selected by the Saints in the fifth round.

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Speaker 10: That's the longest gap in NFL history in regards to

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Speaker 10: quarterbacks being taken in the draft. Florida State quarterback Jordan Travis.

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Speaker 10: He was taken by the Jets. Washington signs undrafted quarterback

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Speaker 10: Sam Hartman from Notre Dame Colts signing undrafted quarterback Heat

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Speaker 10: and Slovas from a BYU back to you.

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Speaker 5: Guys, all right, thanks keV.

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Speaker 2: Good for him. Good for him. Could be an l

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Speaker 2: for the team, but good for him. We'll explain that

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Speaker 2: in just about a minute. He's Bucket Brooks and many

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Speaker 2: Ferman and of course we're gonna have ask Bucky in

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Speaker 2: about six seven minutes from now and when I say

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Speaker 2: good for him, I'll talk about Daniel Jones. It's about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, the quarterback of the Giants. Everybody and talk

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Speaker 2: about the media is being shocked with the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 2: pick Kirk Cousins. Back up now with the Knicks. The

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Speaker 2: big deal here, this is the chakra. I thought that

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Speaker 2: everything was in place for the Giants to find the

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Speaker 2: replacement for Daniel Jones. Instead, what do they do. They

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Speaker 2: draft Lsu wide receiver of mylite Neighbors on the sixth

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Speaker 2: pick overall. And that gives me, in my mind at

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Speaker 2: least some confidence for Daniel Jones. And they're building around

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Speaker 2: now to give him some support. So I guess the

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Speaker 2: management of the New York Football Giants are saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: even though he's going to be in his sixth season,

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Speaker 2: it hasn't been his fault. They got John Runyon is

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Speaker 2: a guard, Austin Schlottman is a guard. Devin Singletary is

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Speaker 2: going to replace. They think Sae Kwon Barkley and free agencies.

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Speaker 2: So I think right now, with Malik Neighbors coming up

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Speaker 2: there on the offensive side of the football, they have

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Speaker 2: a little more confidence than Daniel Jones, and it's good

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Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones's confidence.

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Speaker 5: What do you think about that pick buck?

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Speaker 4: Look, the word on the street is that they were

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Speaker 4: trying to get up, move up the board, to get

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Speaker 4: into the conversation where they could get Drake May couldn't

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Speaker 4: get it done, so then they turned their attention to

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Speaker 4: adding a playmaker to the offense and Elik Neighbors. Elik

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Speaker 4: Neighbors gives them a chance to have their first number

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Speaker 4: one receiver since obj Odell Beckham Junior. And that, look,

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Speaker 4: that's a long time to go without star power on

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Speaker 4: the perimeter. Caius Tony was taken in the first round,

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Speaker 4: didn't live up or play up to expectations. Now you're

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Speaker 4: counting on Elik Neighbors to elevate the quarterback. Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: hasn't been great. Signed the megablockbuster deal. There were people

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Speaker 4: on the outside, well even within the locker room that

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Speaker 4: were kind of perplexed that Daniel Jones got big money before.

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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley got his.

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Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley is done, so now Daniel Jones has to

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Speaker 4: play up to the compensation level and you're trying to

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Speaker 4: add pieces around him. To help him do that, but

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Speaker 4: ultimately it depends on how he plays when he has

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Speaker 4: the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, once again, the so called experts is saying what

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Speaker 5: the needs of the Football Giants.

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Speaker 2: Were wide receiver? Will they answer that with Mylik Neighbors?

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Speaker 2: But they also had quarterback on that list. And look,

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the Giants are right. Only time will tell,

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Speaker 2: but maybe it wasn't the old Daniel Jones fault. I mean,

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Speaker 2: seventy percent of that offense was Sae Kwon Barkley. Didn't

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Speaker 2: have many receivers there and the offensive line stunk, so

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Speaker 2: they built it up with a couple of guards. They

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Speaker 2: got a receiver right now, and many people think that

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Speaker 2: my Leite Neighbors is maybe the best receiver in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Could they A lot of people have said that, So

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Speaker 2: what's your take on Mylait Neighbors.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic player, He has the jews. When you talk to

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Speaker 4: the coach he's down at LSU, they just talk about him.

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Speaker 3: Me and a dog. Very competitive player, loves it the

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Speaker 3: bigger the.

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Speaker 4: Game to Betty, performs, loves everything about football. He has

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Speaker 4: the tools and the talent to be a great one.

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Speaker 4: It's about giving him opportunities to be great? How long

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Speaker 4: will it take him to acclimate to the pro game?

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Speaker 4: That is always the question when it comes to Ricky receivers.

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Speaker 4: But from a talent standpoint, dude, and ask for a

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Speaker 4: better receiver, prospect and elite.

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Speaker 2: Neighbors, and you can answer a better partner than Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: He is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furrman. We are Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 5: Ready.

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Speaker 2: You got a question? He has all the answers. Ask

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Speaker 2: Bucky is next.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Ask Bucky coming right up. That's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman.

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Speaker 2: It's about twelve minutes now before the top of the

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Speaker 2: hour on Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 5: Are ready.

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Speaker 2: We're live from the ti raq dot Com studios. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, we'll change things around a little bit today.

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Speaker 2: If you want to join Ask Bucky, you could do

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Speaker 2: that at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Special

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Speaker 2: Draft Day edition. So if you have a draft question

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine

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Speaker 2: to ask Bucky Brooks. Right now, let's do it. It's Ask

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Speaker 2: Buckie time. Now here we go. First question of today,

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Speaker 2: which is a bigger event in your mind, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 2: the Final Four, the Kentucky Derby, the super Bowl or

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: Mmm, US to super Bowl is a big event. But

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Speaker 4: I would say the Final Four is kind of like

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Speaker 4: the marquee event. And I will only say that just

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Speaker 4: because of the amount of interest that people have in

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Speaker 4: March madness. I love the super Bowl, but the super

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Speaker 4: Bowl is really corporate, whereas I feel the Final Four

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Speaker 4: is still an event where the fans really go to

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: The super Bowl is not necessarily that.

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Speaker 2: And let me put a little asterisk next to that,

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Speaker 2: because I don't think it's true, truly fair to put

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Speaker 2: the Final Four in there, because that's like a month

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Speaker 2: long event, you know. The other one's a day event.

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Speaker 2: So the NFL Draft is three days. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this the NFL, And I heard Roger

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Speaker 2: Goodell say this during the draft period. I mention it

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Speaker 2: to some media person, maybe a news conference. The NFL

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Speaker 2: now seriously talking about an eighteen game schedule. We kind

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Speaker 2: of knew it was on the horizon. Your thoughts about

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Speaker 2: that because should they do that? And they probably will.

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Speaker 2: They're going to kind of only have one preseason game,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think that's fair, not only to the fans,

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Speaker 2: but I think not fair to people trying to make

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Speaker 2: a ball club.

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Speaker 3: Well, so here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I think what ownership is trying to do is they're

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out a way to do it because

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Speaker 4: the fans, right, the fans have to pay exorbitant prices

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Speaker 4: for preseason games and they never get a chance.

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Speaker 3: To really see their favorite players.

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Speaker 4: So if I'm gonna pay big money to get a

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Speaker 4: ticket to park and to do everything, I want to

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Speaker 4: see my best players play. And that's why Roger Godeal

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Speaker 4: has been pushing hard for eighteen and two eighteen regular

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Speaker 4: season games, two preseason games. I think it eventually would

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Speaker 4: get through because it's gonna be eventually mean more money

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Speaker 4: for the players, more benefits of the CBA, and they

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Speaker 4: will eventually get what they want, which is an eighteen

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Speaker 4: game schedule that probably includes two by weeks.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, now, we talked about the NFL Draft. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the first day is finding the stars of the future,

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Speaker 2: the superstars, the big names in college. The second, third

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Speaker 2: day basically finding guys you could plug in that can

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Speaker 2: help you win. And certainly, as they say, it's not

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Speaker 2: as sexy, but the results matter tremendously the teams chasing

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Speaker 2: the playoff spot, trying to get into the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: maybe try to win the championship. So I got to

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Speaker 2: ask the question the difference between a project of a

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Speaker 2: player and a player that needs some fine tuning. What's

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Speaker 2: the difference? They say, I'm drifting a project.

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Speaker 4: Uh, well, the project is a guy that you're saying

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Speaker 4: he needs a lot of coaching.

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Speaker 3: He has the raw.

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Speaker 4: Talent and tools to play at the next level, but

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Speaker 4: he's going to need a little time to develop. So

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Speaker 4: coaches and everyone they have to have realistic expectations on

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Speaker 4: how to develop him.

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Speaker 3: But more importantly, when.

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Speaker 4: He's going to be able to contribute as a full

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Speaker 4: time player. It is just a you know, it's just

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Speaker 4: letting people know that, Look, he's not going to be

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Speaker 4: a guy that comes in right away and has success.

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Speaker 4: He's going to need time to develop into the player

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Speaker 4: that everyone expects him to be.

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Speaker 2: Can I add a part two to that question, when

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix Junior be considered a project because he's not

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Speaker 2: going to come in right away. You would think it's

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Speaker 2: sunning Kirk Cousins for Atlanta for one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 5: He's got to be the guy.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, he's not a project. I think the

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Speaker 4: quarterback position is a little different. If you ask Michael

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Speaker 4: Pennix to start and play this year, he's more than

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Speaker 4: qualified to do it because he has over fifty starts

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Speaker 4: in college. But because of the position Kirk Cousins, what

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Speaker 4: you have, he doesn't have to It's a luxury to

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Speaker 4: be able to do it. This is a yesteryear's strategy.

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Speaker 4: Carson Palmer was drafted two thousand and three number one overall,

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Speaker 4: didn't play his rookie season because John Kittner manned a position.

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Speaker 3: This is the way that they used to develop quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a right of passage that you came into

873
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: the league and got the ball.

874
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: You had to see it, you had to earn it.

875
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: You had to develop before they gave you an opportunity

876
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 4: at quarterback. I think you're seeing a little back to

877
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 4: the future approach with some of these teams.

878
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: Okay, a story that kind of went almost unnoticed. I

879
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: have to see a little fine print on it. The

880
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: NFL is permitting. Now Guardian caps. Guardian caps are padded

881
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: headgear for next season for the players. The comments on

882
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: that because I've see they're looking for safety, But my

883
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: gut feeling is the NFL is doing it to protect

884
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: their rear end because they don't want to be sued

885
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 2: no more lawsuits, so they can do everything they can

886
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: so they won't be sued down the road by the PA.

887
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: Probably, So, I mean, that's probably a legitimate observation. They

888
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: want to make sure they do everything in their power

889
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 4: to show the public that they're trying to take care

890
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 4: of the players. Now, we just five minutes ago mentioned

891
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 4: about playing more games, and so the NFL is kind

892
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 4: of talking about both sides of his mouth talk about

893
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: health and safety while trying to extend the season.

894
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: But this is a ploy to make sure that they

895
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: are showing people that they're trying to take care of

896
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 3: the players.

897
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: Have you ever seen what a Guardian cap looks like?

898
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, mister Kazoo, I have seen it.

899
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: Not my thing, all right, Bucky brooks Andy from an

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Speaker 2: L ten States linebacker, you this school is wide receiver

901
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Speaker 2: University will tell you about it.

902
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: Next a Fox. You're listening to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: is Bucky Brooks, the man who watched the entire, the

912
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: entire NFL draft that I gotta admit I did not.

913
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: And I like to know if anybody else has watched

914
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: that draft beginning to end. I like to hear from

915
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Speaker 2: them really, either on Twitter at Bucky Brooks and Andy

916
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: Furman FSR or eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox

917
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Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine.

918
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: Do you know anyone else, Buck, who watched that draft

919
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: beginning to end? Besides you, I'm sure people involved in

920
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: the league.

921
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: I don't know any I was working it. It wasn't

922
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: like I was on the counts being able to do it.

923
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: I was I was working. I was working. If I was.

924
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 4: If I was not working, I can't guarantee you that

925
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: I alred watch every single minute of the draft. But

926
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: because I was working, because I was on the broadcast

927
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Speaker 4: on the Fast Channel, I had a responsibility.

928
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: No, no, I watched it. Okay, there was a little

929
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: bit of an adendum over there. Now I get it

930
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: all right, yea, how to watch it? Okay, I didn't

931
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: have to watch it. I mean the first round. Look,

932
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: it's entertaining. The first round was great. It's offense. Fans

933
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: love offense, Fans loves they love points. It's just just

934
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: just the way it is.

935
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 8: You know.

936
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Speaker 2: It's a funny thing because living in Cincinnati, everybody was

937
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: speculating that they go for a defense, they go for

938
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: a defensive lineman, and certainly that was a need for

939
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. And my thought was this, a they

940
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: love points, they love offense. This team is built around

941
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. He's the offense. And look, I would say

942
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: that this team right now is built to win games

943
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: like forty one thirty eight. They'll just score more points

944
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: than you will. So what do they do? They go

945
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: out and draft the guy that could protect Joe Burrow,

946
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, and we'll get into that a little later on.

947
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: Certainly not a lot of experience, but he's an offensive lineman,

948
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: and maybe he's a project.

949
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: I don't know.

950
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: He only played in games prior to the draft. But still,

951
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: in all, you know, the experts are somewhat wrong. You

952
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: need defensive help, no doubt about that. But if your

953
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: team is built for offensive strength and they are with

954
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: three receivers and some may not be there down the road,

955
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: and you got Joe Burrow and he's the guy who

956
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: can lead you to the promised Land, you want to

957
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: protect that guy. And I'm pretty sure Joe Burrow had

958
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: a lot to say back in the day when they

959
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: got Jamar Chase, his buddy from LSU. And I think

960
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow may have gone to the coaches and say, look,

961
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: I need some more protection. I don't want to be

962
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: in my butt again this year with sacks. So do

963
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: you agree with that? I mean, certainly the team has

964
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: built the score points and forget about the defense and

965
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: be like the Big twelve in football. You know I'll

966
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: beat you forty five forty one, That's what I'll do.

967
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 5: I'll just score more points than you.

968
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think, but here's the thing.

969
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: The teams that are winning Super Bowls, and I'll scoring

970
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: the other teams, they're the teams that are playing really

971
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 4: good defense.

972
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 3: Maybe when it.

973
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: Comes to Joe Burrow, asking for protection is an effective

974
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: counter tactic meaning to be able to do that. But

975
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's one of those things where

976
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: they can have addressed it with a pass rusher or

977
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: anything like that. To me, taking Amara's mems makes sense.

978
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: Do you want to make sure that the offense good.

979
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: The offense is the strength of the team. Joe Burrow

980
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: is your franchise quarterback. You want to make sure he's

981
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: upright and protected. But they came back and they got

982
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: a defensive player in Chris Jenkins who is an outstanding player.

983
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: His dad played for Lonton League, was a Pro Bowl

984
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: at all pro player. They addressed that they got a

985
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 4: good wide receiver Jermaine Burton, who was trained by TJ.

986
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: Hushman Zada out here in California.

987
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: So they invested in the offense while also kind of

988
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: throwing some little pieces here and there on defense. They

989
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: got figure out what they're gonna do with Trey Hendrickson

990
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: and T Higgins. That's really before they can address the draft.

991
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 4: They had figure out what they're gonna do with Tray Henderson.

992
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: Trey Henderson's played at a high level since coming over

993
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: from New Orleans. He obviously rest of the trade before

994
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: the draft, this says, anybody was like, oh, yeah, no chance.

995
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: Now it's about how they going to negotiate on a

996
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 4: new deal, because I'm sure Trey Henderson wants.

997
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: Some more cheese on the burger.

998
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: He wants a little more money, and they have to

999
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: figure out a way to accommodate his requests.

1000
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: Un cleg you brought that up, you know, because I

1001
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: read that. I mean, it was a bombshell. Twenty four

1002
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: hours prior to the draft, Trey Hendrickson of all people saying,

1003
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: you know, I want to be traded, and then he

1004
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: comes out and says, you know, if you don't trade me,

1005
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna quit.

1006
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 5: I'm going to retire when I'm scratching my I don't

1007
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 5: get it.

1008
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: So, in other words, you'd rather get no check whatsoever

1009
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: if you don't get traded, then play at a pretty

1010
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: good wage right now. And you signed the contract with

1011
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: the ball club a year ago an extension, So what

1012
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: do you expect?

1013
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't understand.

1014
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: I know, I thought that maybe it was a good

1015
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: move prior to the draft because maybe he thought they

1016
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: would trade him and then in fact that have a

1017
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: possibility to replace him in a draft pick.

1018
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 5: It didn't work out that way.

1019
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: Hey, Trey, you know you need to do hold Carson

1020
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: Palmer and see what happened there. That's exactly what Carson

1021
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: kind of pulled the same garbage when he was here too.

1022
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: And I understand that when Carson was here, they were

1023
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: the dreads of the National Football League.

1024
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 5: You know, it was.

1025
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: Bad, bad, nobody wanted to go to Cincinnati and play.

1026
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 2: But why would Trey Hendrickson do that prior to the draft,

1027
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: sign the contract and then have the I'm not gonna

1028
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: say audacity, but did the unsmarts to say I'm gonna

1029
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: quit if you don't trade me. How stupid is that?

1030
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: Well, here's what I'll say when it comes to all

1031
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 4: all of that. Contracts are fluid on both ends. Contracts

1032
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 4: of fluid from the team in because the team will

1033
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: always approach a player about taking a pay cut, or

1034
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: they will cut a player for salary cap considerations. The

1035
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 4: player certainly has the right to demand more money when

1036
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: he's outplayed his contract. The issue that you have from

1037
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 4: a player standpoint, they didn't really have leverage the CBA.

1038
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: When the owners got smart, they rewrote the CBA and

1039
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: they made it very prohibitive for players to hold out.

1040
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 4: So if you're under contract, you don't really have a

1041
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 4: lane to be able to punish the team for not

1042
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: paying you what you think you're worth. If you hold out,

1043
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 4: the fines are so prohibitive that I mean, you're out

1044
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: of pocket. Chris Jones talked about how much money he

1045
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 4: made he lost sitting out, and he had to make

1046
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: that up by hitting all of his incentives because you

1047
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 4: can no longer waive those fees like you could.

1048
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: Back in the day.

1049
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: I think for Tray Hendrickson and for the other players

1050
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: that are looking for more money, you just have to

1051
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 4: hope that it's an opportune time for the team to

1052
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 4: address it. Otherwise you're kind of stuck on it and

1053
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: it may suck for team.

1054
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: Morale in the locker room. But that's just kind of

1055
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 3: how it is in today's game.

1056
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Telk Grady was killing Trey hendricks centers.

1057
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: He lost faith in the fan. Look, I don't think

1058
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: he cares, or any player really cares about the fans

1059
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: and what the fans think about them. And it's like

1060
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: any other person. I mean, if you're a banker and

1061
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: you want to get a raise and you go crazy

1062
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: with your boss, you know, the only difference being is

1063
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: the fact that, yeah, a you want more money like

1064
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: Trey does, but no one knows about that, and you're

1065
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: doing it behind closed doors. When you're a pro athlete,

1066
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: you're on a big stage and everybody knows every move

1067
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: that you make. You know, what restaurant you go to,

1068
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: you're out in the public. People are taking pictures of you.

1069
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1070
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: If you're sitting at a restaurant and some guy comes

1071
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: over to you while you're reading and you do not

1072
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: you dis in for an autograph, oh my goodness.

1073
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: On social media, you'll get killed. You really.

1074
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 2: That's why these athletes today, and you know it better

1075
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: than anybody, they don't go out. I mean, athletes back

1076
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: in the day would go check at the hotels and

1077
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: go down to the restaurant whatever it may be.

1078
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 5: They all get room service.

1079
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: Now they don't want to be bothered by fans coming

1080
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: up in their face and using their telephone as a

1081
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: camera and getting them on social media and going viral.

1082
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: When a guy says, get away from me, I'm eating.

1083
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. Am I right on that.

1084
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure I am.

1085
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's changed a lot, But also I would say

1086
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: what has changed fans. Fans have also changed because it

1087
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: went from being a community where everyone was kind of supportive,

1088
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: like fans adore their favorite players. Now you see things

1089
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 4: like we just saw the Clipton went vi our love

1090
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 4: the little kid who has something to say to DK

1091
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 4: metcalf We're talking about a teenager and adolescence who's in

1092
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: high school talking about DK Metcalfe not being good enough

1093
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: because Jalen Ramsey is his quote unquote daddy. That stuff

1094
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 4: never would happen, like when you would getting the presence

1095
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: of your heroes, you never would take a shot, even

1096
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: if he wasn't your favorite player, You wouldn't say anything

1097
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 4: disparaging to him because you're a teenager and you're looking

1098
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: up to someone who may be doing something that you.

1099
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 3: Aspire to do.

1100
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 4: Because we don't have that anymore, Yeah, like we don't

1101
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: have that anymore. Social media has kind of changed everything

1102
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 4: where the keyboard Warriors have enough courage to say anything

1103
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 4: to anybody, and it look, it's just changed. And what

1104
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: you have are players who are reluctant to engage in

1105
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: those discussions with fans and all that. And it's not

1106
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: one hundred percent, because there's plenty of good fans out there,

1107
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, all it takes is a

1108
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: few bad apples to spoil the bunch.

1109
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: And so we had this weird space with athletes.

1110
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: And fans and what used to be a very connected

1111
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: experience now it's kind of become divisive and acrimonious and

1112
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: very hostile sometimes between fans and players when it.

1113
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: Really shouldn't be. It should be an admiration.

1114
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 4: Even though you pull for your respective teams, there still

1115
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: was a level of respect there.

1116
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: That level of respect doesn't exist.

1117
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the one player that comes to mind that

1118
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: really gets involved with social media and kind of fans

1119
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: is Kevin Durant. I mean, someone's got to get a

1120
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: hold of who say, look back off, you can't win,

1121
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win, A fan calls you a bum,

1122
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: Just let it go, you know. And I think what

1123
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: these fans do when you talk about the courageousness that

1124
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: they have on the keyboard.

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00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 5: I call it beer muscles. That's what it is.

1126
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: They have beer muddy all of a sudden, behind closed doors,

1127
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: no one sees them. No one knows what their name is.

1128
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: Us have these these stupid code guards for their name

1129
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: on social media.

1130
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 5: They have beer muscles.

1131
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're tough and their their bullies when

1132
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: no one could see them.

1133
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 5: That's what they are.

1134
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a different I mean, it's definitely

1135
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: a different hustle. And that's one of those that it

1136
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 4: is disappointing. But we're seeing more of it, the hostility

1137
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: between fans and players more so than ever. Tell about

1138
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant walking into the arena in Dallas

1139
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 4: and uh, the fans, a lady and her husband or

1140
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: partner give him the middle finger and it's amazing and

1141
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: call them out of his name.

1142
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: To me, it's just I'm blown away by it.

1143
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 5: It's disgusting.

1144
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's just it's just bananas and the

1145
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: players should always be above it.

1146
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's a lot. It's just a different time.

1147
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 4: We're just in a much different time when it comes

1148
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: to those kinds of things.

1149
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 5: It's amazing it really is.

1150
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: I mentioned this coming into this segment about the schools

1151
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: at Penn States linebacker you and this school right now

1152
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: has to be wide receiver. You we're talking about LSU.

1153
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: You know, Ohio State and Alabama. They got plenty of

1154
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: a lumps in the NFL, but two first rounders my

1155
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: lak neighbors we talked about him is going to the Giants.

1156
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, your Jags. They joined Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase

1157
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: and O'Dell Beckham junior from LSU.

1158
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 5: Is that a coin? I got to ask, is that

1159
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 5: a coincidence? Right now? Who do players who are good.

1160
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 2: Wide receivers or are maybe top five five star high

1161
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: school players that they kind of zoom into that school saying, look,

1162
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: this is a school that produces great receivers. I want

1163
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: to go there because NFL scouts. Are you looking for

1164
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: me because I am a receiver. I'm planning at a

1165
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: school that is known for receivers? Is that what they do?

1166
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 4: They definitely have those conversations, you know, they definitely have

1167
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: the conversations when you're thinking about going to schools because

1168
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: everyone as far as to go.

1169
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 3: To the next level.

1170
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 4: And I will add another team you talked about wide receiver.

1171
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: You for as much as you can talk about LSU,

1172
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 4: Ohio State has to be in that same conversation. Just

1173
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 4: given the fact that recently we've seen Marvin Harrison Junior,

1174
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 4: Chris o'love, Jacksonvith and Jigba, Garrett Wilson and others come

1175
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: through there. I want to make sure I give the

1176
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: proper due. But yeah, both of those schools have been

1177
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 4: lauded for the ability to produce receivers of late and

1178
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: it will continue. It does play a huge role, particularly

1179
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 4: on the recruiting trail. Guys want to go where they

1180
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 4: have an opportunity to potentially learn how to play and

1181
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 4: learn how to kind of develop and go to the

1182
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: next level.

1183
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a consideration for sure.

1184
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 11: You know.

1185
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: The irony is when you just put up Ohio State.

1186
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: That school has always been a bad mouth by national

1187
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 2: media people for the lack of a strong quarterback until

1188
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: this year. You know, with the Texans, really, when you

1189
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: think about it, they never really produced a tremendous great quarterback.

1190
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 5: Am I correct on that? But they have great receivers.

1191
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you are right.

1192
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: Ohio State has been beat up in the past for

1193
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: quarterbacks they had guys that were drafted but hadn't necessarily

1194
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 4: perform to a high level.

1195
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 3: CJ.

1196
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 4: Stroud kind of debunked that myth and kind of put

1197
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: that to bed for a little bit. But yeah, now

1198
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. It was an issue, was a consideration,

1199
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: and it was one of those things that everyone talked

1200
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: about it, you know, talked about it at nauseam about

1201
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 4: don't draft o high state quarterbacks they don't play well

1202
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 4: in the National Football League.

1203
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: It amazes me, it really does. I mean, I mean,

1204
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: you're on the inside, you know what's going on. If

1205
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: there are two players, and like Marvin Harrison, obviously it

1206
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: was a no doubt or right. But if you have

1207
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: a quarterback at Ohio State and a quarterback maybe at

1208
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: Oregon to Washington and similar statistics, similar body frame six, three,

1209
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: two twenty, whatever it may be, would the scout or

1210
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: the guy who's making the decision on draft night say, well,

1211
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the guy from Washington because

1212
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: I just don't trust Ohio State. Is that a possibility?

1213
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: Does that happen?

1214
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't happen like that.

1215
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: But the challenge is as a scout is to scout

1216
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 4: the player not the helmet, and it works sometimes it

1217
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 4: works for them, but it also can work against them.

1218
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 4: So for instance, right now, you will hear people talk

1219
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 4: about Alabama players and oh, they played for Nick Saban,

1220
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 4: and so inherently you give them a nod because Nick

1221
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 4: Saban is viewed as the greatest coach that we've ever

1222
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 4: seen in college football. If you played for him, you

1223
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: learned great information. You know how to prepare all those

1224
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: other things. But it doesn't mean that it's always true,

1225
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 4: you know, And so you just have to challenge yourself

1226
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: not to fall into that trap of just giving guys

1227
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 4: credit just because they went to a certain school or

1228
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 4: played under a certain coach.

1229
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that it's always going to be true,

1230
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: that it's gonna work out in their favor.

1231
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: And I think they would look at the competition they

1232
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: play against too. When I mean obviously a school, there

1233
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: are a couple of kids up drafted out of Toledo.

1234
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean Toledo's not in the same part as in

1235
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State. But you know, if you're a standout player,

1236
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: we'll get drafted, right.

1237
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 3: Well, that's what you always used to tell players.

1238
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 4: You used to always tell guys, hey, if you're good enough,

1239
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: they'll find you, so you don't have to bounce around.

1240
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: In particular with.

1241
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 4: The portal, there is this belief that, Okay, I'm good

1242
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: enough at this level.

1243
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: Now I got to go prove it at another level.

1244
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: And that's not true.

1245
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 4: You know, you don't have to bounce around and go

1246
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 4: from being at Toledo like Quinna and Mitchell to then, oh,

1247
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: let me go to Ohio State to prove the people

1248
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 4: that I can play against better competition. Man, good scouts

1249
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: can determine who has it and who doesn't, and you

1250
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 4: just have to trust that if I do the work

1251
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: where I'm at, my work will be rewarded.

1252
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 3: There we go.

1253
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firman. You get Bucky on Twitter,

1254
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1255
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1260
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Speaker 2: game in our number three, and of course there's one

1261
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Speaker 2: only one, there's one NFL player crying for help. That's

1262
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,480
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Speaker 5: They left them high and dry. We'll get to that

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1265
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Speaker 2: after we get the air, right if we're got at

1276
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: the air now. Uh, you know you gotta feel sorry

1277
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: for Josh Allen. You gotta feel sorry for the guy

1278
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: because you thought that maybe they would trade for a

1279
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: receiver to replace Stefan Diggs instead what they did the

1280
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, I have no idea why.

1281
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 5: I don't know why.

1282
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: They're not gonna criticize as much as the Atlanta Falcons

1283
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: are with the Kirk Cousins deal. But they traded down

1284
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: that once, but they traded down twice, and they allowed

1285
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: not one, not to but seven receivers to come off

1286
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: the board, including three after their original twenty eight pick.

1287
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: And the Dolphins get this, and Josh's got to thinking

1288
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: about this one. They ended a pass rusher and chop

1289
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: Robinson to make life even more difficult for him. So

1290
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand what the Bills did. They had to

1291
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: get a receiver they needed Stefan Digs replayed. They did

1292
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: maybe not one, they didn't two. I know they got

1293
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: the kid from Florida State, Keon Coleman, but I don't

1294
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: think that's the replacement for Stefan Diggs, that's for sure.

1295
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: And then then they also lose the kid, Gabe Davis.

1296
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: They went, he went to Jacksonville.

1297
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: They're trying to do something different.

1298
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean came out and kind of tipped his hand

1299
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 4: up before the draft.

1300
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: He talked about we believe.

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Speaker 4: You don't need a number one receiver to be able

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Speaker 4: to be successful in this league. They believe that they

1303
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: have what they need with Josh Allen, that Josh Allen

1304
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: will elevate the team and it's not necessary to have

1305
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: a Stefan Diggs or a wide receiver of that caliber

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00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 4: on the squad. Part of their decision could be influenced

1307
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 4: by watching Pat Mahomes go to back to back Super

1308
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: Bowls without a notable name at wide receiver. Everyone to

1309
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 4: talk about Travis Kelcey, and Travis Kelcey is really the

1310
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 4: lead horse in that passing game for that passing game.

1311
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 4: But for the Buffalo Bills, they're saying, we don't need that,

1312
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: and they do have two really good tight ends in

1313
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: the building, Dawson Knox and then last year they took

1314
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: dal kin Ka from the University of Utah to give

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00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: them the opportunity to work inside out. Much like the

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs have prioritized the tight end, the Buffalo

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00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 4: Bills are trying to do that. When they went and

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Speaker 4: got Kean Coleman, Kean Coleman was in my pit, in

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 4: my estimation, a pick designed to give them a big

1320
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Speaker 4: body that they could target in the red zone, someone

1321
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 4: that can be a strike zone expander over the middle

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 4: of the field to play his role, and they'll put

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Speaker 4: some other little plug and play pieces around them, but

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Speaker 4: it won't be any notable names. I believe this is

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott trying to get back to having a team

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Speaker 4: as opposed to a collection of individual stars that are

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Speaker 4: somehow working together on game day.

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Speaker 2: Well, Ken Coleman's pretty big. He's like sixty three sixty

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: four about two twenty, so it could run. He got

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Speaker 2: some speed. But here's the problem. I thought what the

1331
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: Bills did where they screwed up? They treaded back twice

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, the first day of the draft, and the

1333
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: first trade was at the Kansas City Chiefs. So you

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01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: mentioned they did, and the Chiefs drafted the Texas wide

1335
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Speaker 2: receivers Avia Worthy, that number twenty eight, and that could

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01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: have been with the Buffalo Bills. And it's Worthy right

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01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: now is going to be great with the Kansas City Chiefs,

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01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: no doubt my mind.

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Speaker 4: Right, maybe maybe not, But you've got to remember Worthy

1340
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: ran four two one of the combine.

1341
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Speaker 3: But he also weighed one hundred and sixty six pounds.

1342
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Speaker 4: The trick will be how does he fare in the

1343
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: league that is loaded with thick, imposing menacing tacklers over

1344
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 4: the middlefield in the secondary? Can he you know, can

1345
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: he stand up? Can he deal with the heat and

1346
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: the kid that ultimately he's gonna face. But Worthy, like

1347
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: there's a lot of conversation about a They wanted to

1348
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 4: get their Tyreek Hill but really he is more like

1349
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 4: DeShawn Jackson was for Andy Reid doing his time together

1350
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. Slender but big time playmaker, can take the

1351
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 4: top off the defense, all of those things. Xavier Worthy

1352
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 4: may add the deep ball in, so don't expect him

1353
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: to necessarily be utilized like Tyreek Hill was. Different body types,

1354
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 4: different strengths to their game. But he might be more

1355
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 4: suited for the Deshaun Jackson roll on the perimeter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was the first tray they made. Then they

1357
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: made a second trade with the Carolina Panthers and they

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01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: the Panthers picked the kid out of South Carolina was

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: Xavier Leggett. He was hitting them with what's the story

1360
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: with him? I don't know anything about Xavier Lego. I

1361
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: didn't watch South Carolina play football.

1362
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Speaker 4: Zavier Lego is kind of like a bigger version of

1363
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel, same school, same kind of game. Everything is in,

1364
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 4: you know, catch and run, put a ball in his hands,

1365
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 4: let him get out the way. Not because people are

1366
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 4: trying to make the comparison to DK Meca. I don't

1367
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 4: think he's built to play like that. But he's more

1368
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 4: like a Debo type, physical aggressive, really had a ton

1369
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 4: of production this final season where he had an opportunity

1370
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Speaker 4: to kind of get after it and dominated he. Look,

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01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 4: he stepped up and took advantage of it. And now

1372
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Speaker 4: you just have to hope that he can sustain it

1373
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 4: because he only had that one year spectacular production at

1374
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 4: South Carolina. Can he continue to be the player that

1375
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 4: had displayed this year or would he go back to

1376
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 4: being the guy that he was the first couple of

1377
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 4: years at South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you mentioned that the coaching staff in

1379
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo said that you don't need a number one wide

1380
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: receiver to win, and certainly they followed up on that,

1381
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Speaker 2: because I don't think they have a number one wide

1382
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,479
Speaker 2: receiver right now.

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Speaker 4: They don't, And look, they're not the first to say

1384
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Speaker 4: it down in Jacksonville. Doug Peterson has said it to me,

1385
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Speaker 4: and I learned it when I was in Green Bay

1386
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 4: with coach Homegren who had kind of learned it from

1387
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: Bill Walsh during their time together. The better the quarterback,

1388
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 4: the lesser they need to have a high end wide receiver.

1389
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Speaker 4: So if you believe that your quarterback is a gold

1390
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 4: jacket caliber quarterback, well you don't necessarily need to have

1391
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 4: a bunch of A pluses around them. You need to

1392
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 4: have some good players around them, some B some B pluses,

1393
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 4: but you don't necessarily need an A plus wide receiver that's.

1394
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 3: Going to eat up all the salary cap.

1395
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 4: When you look at Tom Brady and how Tom Brady

1396
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: was able to do it, he did it with some

1397
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 4: lesser names for.

1398
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Speaker 3: The majority of his career.

1399
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: When they gave him Randy Moss and wils Working Philly Blossom.

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Speaker 4: He threw for more yards and they were more productive,

1401
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 4: but they didn't win Super Bowls with that team. They

1402
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 4: won Super Bowl when there were more balanced they had

1403
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 4: the unherded players on the outside Pat Mahomes.

1404
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: As great as it was for.

1405
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes with Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelcey and all

1406
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 4: those guys, the fact that they went back to back

1407
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 4: with unknowns on the perimeter, it's opened some eyes and

1408
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,479
Speaker 4: it is making people reconsider how they build their team,

1409
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 4: particularly with the wide receiver market escalating, where wide receivers

1410
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: are getting thirty two million dollars annually and commanding that

1411
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Speaker 4: kind of attention on the salary caps.

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Speaker 3: Face, Yeah, people.

1413
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 4: Are going to say, is there a cheaper way, a

1414
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 4: more efficient way to be able to do it.

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Speaker 2: Let me go back if I may, because I think

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Speaker 2: I read somewhere maybe I'm will based on this. The

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Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy kid from Texas who was drafted now by

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. They claimed that he's the fastest

1419
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Speaker 2: player in NFL combined history.

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Speaker 5: Is that true?

1421
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: That history ran for? You wanted to come up.

1422
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 5: That's the fastest effort and Buffalo passed up.

1423
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: The fastest ever to come on. Yeah, Buffalo passed up

1424
01:04:59,320 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 3: on it.

1425
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 4: But he might not have been a fit because you

1426
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 4: have to understand where Buffalo is and what they want

1427
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 4: to do. Look, a five to eleven six foot one

1428
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty six pound wide receiver might not do

1429
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 4: it because there's some concerns about that size and people

1430
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 4: haven't talked about it enough, and the time is intoxicating

1431
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 4: that he ran into combine be size matters in this league.

1432
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Speaker 4: And you know, I know Devonte Smith and people will

1433
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 4: through all those things. But Davonte Smith, Tyler Locket, they're

1434
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: different kind of players than Xavi.

1435
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Speaker 3: You're Worthy.

1436
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 4: He'll have to prove that he can handle the rigors

1437
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 4: of the physicality and toughness in this league.

1438
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned that, but I would

1439
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: agree that maybe you don't need a number one receiver

1440
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: if you've got a great run game.

1441
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Speaker 5: They don't really have a great run game in Buffalo.

1442
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: That the I think Buffalo right now is if you're

1443
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: graphing them, they're graphing down. I mean, I think that

1444
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 2: may have hit their peak. And I think we see

1445
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: that they're moving down. Because I'll tell you we're.

1446
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 5: Going to get into this. We'll look at the Pittsburgh

1447
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 5: steel is what they did and the AFC.

1448
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Speaker 2: Now, I think that Buffalo is not going to be

1449
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: the dominant team that they once wore. I think Cincinnati

1450
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: still could be strong. I think Pittsburgh's going to be

1451
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: strong as well, and certainly Baltimore is always going to

1452
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: be strong. I don't put Buffalo up there anymore, am

1453
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: I correct there?

1454
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 4: Maybe Joe Brady's would have to change how they approach it,

1455
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 4: and they changed the way they played down the stretch

1456
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 4: last year.

1457
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Speaker 3: If anyone was paying close attention to.

1458
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills, they went to more two tight end sets,

1459
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 4: more of an old school conservative approach where they're trying

1460
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 4: to run the football, control the game, make lighten the

1461
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 4: load on the defense, not engage in those shootouts and

1462
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 4: also eliminate some of the pressure that was on Josh Allen.

1463
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Speaker 4: I think they kind of want to live in that world,

1464
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 4: become a little more blue collar and their offensive approach

1465
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 4: because that blue collar approach on offense could help them

1466
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: play better defense.

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Speaker 5: There we go, all right, I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: He's Bucket Brooks, I me and Dey Ferman.

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Speaker 2: We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. They

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Speaker 2: didn't even play a game, but this counts as an

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Speaker 2: all our sports on ty I rack dot com Studios.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're in the thick of both the NBA and

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Speaker 10: NHL postseasons and the Los Angeles Lakers snapping in eleven

1475
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Speaker 10: game losing streak in a seven game postseason losing streak

1476
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Speaker 10: to the Denver Nuggets, winning it one nineteen one away

1477
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Speaker 10: to extend their series two way fifth game as Denver

1478
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Speaker 10: ahead a three to one Anthony Davis a double double,

1479
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Speaker 10: a twenty point twenty rebound twenty five point twenty three

1480
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Speaker 10: rebound double double. Oklahoma City the Thunder now ahead in

1481
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 10: their series against the New Orleans Pelicans, three nothing as

1482
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Speaker 10: after they get a win in New Orleans one of

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Speaker 10: six to eighty five. The Boston Celtics demolished the Miami

1484
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 10: Heat one oh four to eighty four, so the Celtics

1485
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 10: lead that series two to win. The Magic win against

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Speaker 10: the Cleveland Cavaliers one twelve eighty nine, so that series

1487
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Speaker 10: now tied at two. Some injury updates for today's games.

1488
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Speaker 10: Yannis doubt full four his game against the Pacers today.

1489
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 10: He's been out with a stringed CAF and it's not

1490
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 10: looking likely that he's gonna be able to suit up

1491
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 10: when the Bucks take the court against the Pacers. Same

1492
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 10: for Damian Lillard. He has a strained achilles was seen

1493
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 10: in a walking boot earlier on Saturday, so they're not

1494
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 10: they don't believe that he might be able to go.

1495
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 10: He has listed as doubtful. The Clippers Kawhi Leonard listed

1496
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Speaker 10: as questionable for his playoff game at Dallas. He's been

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Speaker 10: dealing with knee inflammation and that kept him out of

1498
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Speaker 10: the first game against the Mavericks, So that's another situation

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Speaker 10: to keep an eye on. In the Stanley Cup playoffs,

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Speaker 10: the Dallas Stars overtime winners against Vegas three to two,

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01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 10: so they cut into that series lead. It's now two

1502
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 10: to one in favor of Vegas. The New York Islanders

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01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 10: get a double overtime victory against the Hurricanes, winning at

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01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 10: three to two, so they stay alive as Carolina leads

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 10: that series three one. Tampa Bay Lightning also keeping their

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01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 10: season alive, beating the Florida Panthers sixth threes to Florida

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01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 10: had a three to one the Boston Bruins, they're ahead

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01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 10: and their there's three one. They get a three to

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 10: one victory against the Toronto Maple Leafs, and the NFL

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Speaker 10: Draft has concluded, so all teams have made their selections.

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Speaker 10: And an interesting note, after bon Nix was picked with

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Speaker 10: a twelfth overall pick, it wasn't until Spencer Ratler in

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Speaker 10: the fifth round that a quarterback was selected, and that's

1514
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 10: the longest gap between quarterback selections in the draft in

1515
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 10: NFL history.

1516
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 5: Backs, you guys, all.

1517
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: Right, thanks KVC about it now, and now you better

1518
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 2: do your homework. That's coming right up. He is Bucky Brooks.

1519
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Ferman. And by the way, we'll have Bottom

1520
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: Bauer betting at about six seven minutes from now. I

1521
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: want to talk about the Dallas Cowboys right now, because

1522
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: I think this team right now, I think they're like

1523
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 2: in a washing machine. They're spinning around. I don't think

1524
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: they know what they're really doing. I think that there's

1525
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: too many cooks that spoil the broad if you know

1526
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 2: what I mean, too many people. I think maybe in

1527
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: the front over is making decisions. Why am I saying

1528
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: that if you're going to trade back in that first round,

1529
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: which they did, you better know what the teams in

1530
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: front of you with plenty to do. They lost. The

1531
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys lost potential start is out to Tampa. They set

1532
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: the Graham Barton and they again lost to the Chiefs

1533
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: that were the same receivers Avia Worthy.

1534
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 5: How they do that?

1535
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: They dropped from number twenty four to number twenty nine.

1536
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 2: Why they do that? And they picked up a third

1537
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: round pick for that. I don't get it. I just

1538
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: don't understand why they did that, and it doesn't look

1539
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 2: good for Dallas.

1540
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 5: I don't think it was a good draft for them.

1541
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: I really don't, because I don't think they filled the

1542
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: needs that they had to get. They needed an offensive tackle,

1543
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: which they did get the kid Tyler Guiding from Oklahoma,

1544
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: so they filled that and evil see what he does.

1545
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: They needed a center, they needed a wide receiver. I

1546
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: don't see a wide receiver on their draft list, So

1547
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't think overall, Dallas did much to help themselves.

1548
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like, so here's the thing, because it's

1549
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 4: really about putting all the pieces of together, pieces of

1550
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 4: the posle together. What you're doing free agency compliments what

1551
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 4: you do on the draft day, compliments what you already

1552
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 4: have established on your team.

1553
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys are, you know.

1554
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 4: And a lot of this was set by what Jerry

1555
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 4: Jones said, talk about it being all in and so

1556
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 4: all in to us on the outside, led us to

1557
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 4: believe that they're going to have these flurry of activities.

1558
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 3: They're gonna be very active.

1559
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 4: On the free agent market, they're gonna be willing and

1560
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 4: dealing on draft Day, and.

1561
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: That's not what transpired.

1562
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 4: They must believe that they have the ability to answer

1563
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 4: all of their questions internally, and they've done a really

1564
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 4: good job of drafting in the past, so we just

1565
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 4: kind of have to take them at.

1566
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 3: Their word for it.

1567
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 4: The questions that I have with center around they don't

1568
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 4: have a marquee running back. They need a partner to

1569
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 4: play opposite CD Lamb. Brandon Cooks is fine, but they

1570
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 4: need somebody else. And you just wanted are they going

1571
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 4: to be able to sustain some of the levels of.

1572
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: Success that they've had after.

1573
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 4: Winning what twelve games in each of the last three seasons.

1574
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: Right, And I think the major problem right there, you

1575
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: don't have a left tackle. I mean, if I'm a

1576
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: quarterback right now, I'm sleeping up, I'm not.

1577
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 5: Sleeping at night.

1578
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: Really, they lost Tyrone Smith. He's signed with the Jets.

1579
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 2: Why song with the Jets. I have no idea, but

1580
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: he left the Helbish to go to the Jets, and

1581
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: they need a tackle. They need a strong offensive tackle

1582
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: left tackle. They do well Tyler Smith. He may be

1583
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: able to fill that void. I don't know if he can.

1584
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: But the primary need for the Dallas Cowboys going to

1585
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: the draft this year was getting a tackle, and certainly

1586
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't think they filled that need. And then for

1587
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 2: a quarterback, you gotta protect that quarterback. That's what it's

1588
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: all about.

1589
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it is all about protecting the quarterback,

1590
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 4: but it also is about making sure.

1591
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 3: That the player that you pick is in the right

1592
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 3: value spot.

1593
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 4: Because if you pick someone too soon, who's not good enough,

1594
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 4: then it becomes a problem.

1595
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: Tyler Gayton is an athletic edge blocker.

1596
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 4: He is someone who has the athleticism to be a

1597
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 4: left tackle. I mean he has the footwork. He can

1598
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 4: be a dancing bear. He's just inconsistent, and some of

1599
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 4: that inconsistency is due to his inexperience. But he has

1600
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 4: a lot of the traits that you look for at

1601
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 4: the position.

1602
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 3: They get an edge.

1603
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 4: Rusher and Marsha Kneelan, who's an all day sucker, high

1604
01:12:59,200 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 4: motive player.

1605
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: He's able to kind of get after it.

1606
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: Cooper BB is a really good interior a lineman, so

1607
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 4: already offensive line wise, they're pretty good. The questions that

1608
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 4: you have though, are they didn't invest a significant pick

1609
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 4: in a high end wide receiver. Yeah, they took one,

1610
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 4: but when you take someone in the sixth round, you

1611
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 4: don't have expectations that they can be an immediate contributor.

1612
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 4: Same can be said for them attacking their secondary. Kaitlin

1613
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 4: Carson coming over from Wake Forest, maybe he gives them more,

1614
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 4: but traditionally it's not.

1615
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1616
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 4: They got to what should be and we have to

1617
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 4: focus on the first three rounds. They have two potential

1618
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 4: starters on the offensive line and a starter on the edges.

1619
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 4: So I'll say I would give them a check and

1620
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 4: that right there should put them at a B B

1621
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 4: plus without even looking at anything else that they may

1622
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 4: do after that.

1623
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to go back to mar Sean Keelan

1624
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 2: because he's a kid who wipes by six three six '

1625
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: four maybe two seventy. Right now, I think that this

1626
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 2: guy is a project. And why do I say that

1627
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 2: he's coming from Western Michigan. I mean, I just think

1628
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: that you have to look at the competition you play against.

1629
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 5: Now.

1630
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: You've always told me that you know, it's more important

1631
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: to have a lot of college games under your belt

1632
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: before you go into the NFL, and I get that, okay,

1633
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: but this kid played at Western Michigan. To me, if

1634
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 2: I had a choice of getting a kid from Western

1635
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: Michigan or Iowa or Big twelve or Big ten, whatever

1636
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: it may be, I'm going Big ten, Big twelve rather

1637
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: than going to Western Michigan. Maybe I'm crazy just the

1638
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: way it is. I mean, tell me a little bit

1639
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: more about this Marshah Quaitlyn kid.

1640
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 4: March On Kitelyn is a good player prospect, how motive player.

1641
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 4: What you speak to are some of the things that

1642
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 4: some team builders believe in. I'm gonna get the best

1643
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: kids from the blue collar programs, the blue blood programs,

1644
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 4: and I'm not going to waste my time trying to

1645
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 4: develop a small school standout who it takes two.

1646
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,480
Speaker 3: Or three years to begin to realize his potential.

1647
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 4: I'll be read off served with the plug and play

1648
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 4: player that I can seak their language in those things.

1649
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 4: But look at six on one hand, half a dozen

1650
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 4: on the other. I'll say this, Marshawn Neeland has some talent.

1651
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 4: He's intriguing because of what he's able to do on

1652
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 4: the edges. And let's be honest, they have not had

1653
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 4: a lot of success in recent years with some of

1654
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 4: their veterans playing at a high level.

1655
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 5: Right and I quelan I think did well in the

1656
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 5: Senior Bowl this year too. Whatever that means.

1657
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 4: I mean, like you talk about a guy who who's

1658
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 4: really really explosive, I mean four seventy five forty vertical jump,

1659
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 4: thirty five and a half almost a ten foot broad jump,

1660
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 4: just really really intriguing. He's going to have a shot

1661
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 4: to develop. And this is kind of how the Power

1662
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 4: Cowboys have always gone about their business.

1663
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: Man.

1664
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 4: They they tend to draft like smaller school guys from

1665
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 4: Texas that kind of like figure it out. And look,

1666
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 4: he's a good player, small school guys, stood out, stood

1667
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 4: out at Western Michigan. Has a chance and he's a

1668
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 4: player who was look five years in the program. So

1669
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 4: he has a lot of starts. He'd locked a lot

1670
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 4: of starts on his bill.

1671
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 3: There we go.

1672
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 5: All right, I hear you.

1673
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: I trust you, I always have, always will. He's Bucky Brooks,

1674
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: I mean the firman wheel Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Bots.

1675
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: And if you think the draft was tough, try this

1676
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 2: bottom barrel betting. It's freaking next bottom barrel betting right

1677
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 2: around the bed. It's about eleven minutes now before the

1678
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: top of the hour. This is Fox Sports Sunday on

1679
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: Fox Bots. Ready a lot from the Ti rock dot

1680
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 2: com studio. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm many firming us play

1681
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: the game. Yes it is, and here he is the

1682
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 2: eye man leading us along.

1683
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: All right.

1684
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 12: I'm excited for this week because we've got a couple

1685
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 12: couple new sports thrown into the mix now, so this

1686
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 12: should be fun. This should be fun. With last week

1687
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 12: Shay filling in. We Uh, there's a little communication issues.

1688
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 12: We're not going to update the score from last week.

1689
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 12: But he did tell me that Bucky one anyway, so.

1690
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 5: No, he did that.

1691
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,480
Speaker 11: Come on, we is anyone surprised?

1692
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: You know, I never had a complex until I started

1693
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: playing this game with you guys. I have like no

1694
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: confidence in my life anymore. Really now, Andy, I believe

1695
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: in you. Still, I'm afraid of you know, I'll tell

1696
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: you how bad things have gone for me. I'm afraid

1697
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: to start my car but it can explode. Really, that's

1698
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: what you've done to me.

1699
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, that's really that's yeah. Wow, Okay, well anyway,

1700
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 12: let's move on here. So the first four we're going

1701
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 12: to start here is sailing. So it's the Bermuda Grand

1702
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 12: Prix Competitive Sailing.

1703
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 10: Uh.

1704
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 12: The way these work is they do kind of match

1705
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 12: races one versus one is kind of with a bracket style,

1706
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 12: so one match we're going with two of them. So

1707
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 12: the first one here is Germany at minus one thirty

1708
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,799
Speaker 12: five versus Switzerland at plus one oh five. And Bucky

1709
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 12: will start with you this week.

1710
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 3: Ooh, let's go with Germany. Let's go to Germany. Those

1711
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,839
Speaker 3: German ships, German engineering. Let's go with Germany.

1712
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 11: Very hydrodynamic.

1713
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 2: You really locked me in right now? Speaking of locking in,

1714
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: Switzerland's like a locked in country. There's no water in Switzerland. Really,

1715
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 2: I mean, there were those landlocked countries, and you're gonna

1716
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: give me Switzerland, right, I mean, come on, I didn't

1717
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 2: have a fighting chance. I'm better off building my own

1718
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: boat to compete against you. But I'm gonna still take

1719
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 2: the underdog. I think I'll take Switzerland. I have confidence

1720
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 2: in the Swiss because they make good watches, the Swiss,

1721
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 2: and good chocolate too.

1722
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 12: Everyone knows their watchmaking contributes to sailing.

1723
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 5: Well, you know what a little bit like a compass,

1724
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

1725
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 12: Okay, come on, now, something there, there's something right anyway. Next,

1726
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 12: we got Denmark versus the US, UH and Andy. We

1727
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 12: will start with you this time. Who you got I'm gonna.

1728
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: Bet against the US of A. Really, but you know

1729
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: what I'm going to. I'm going to because I just

1730
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 2: have a feeling this conflict. There's egotistical people on the

1731
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: USA team. I'm going with Denmark. Going with Denmark, pty

1732
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 2: like that because they have good cheese.

1733
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, complete trader like trader.

1734
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 5: I'm a loser on a.

1735
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 4: Trader, that's all right. I won't commit treason. I'll take

1736
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 4: I'll take the home squad.

1737
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 11: All right.

1738
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 12: Wow. So now now we're moving over to the Chinese

1739
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 12: Women's Volleyball Championship. It's Shandong at plus three point fifty

1740
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 12: versus Jang Sue at minus six hundred. Bucky, who you.

1741
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:30,480
Speaker 3: Got, Chang Song. Let's take Chang.

1742
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 11: Song shan Dong.

1743
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 3: Chang Dong with.

1744
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 11: Shandong and Jiang Sue.

1745
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: I had no idea wouldn't even play volleyball because they're

1746
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: rather short than stature, right, I mean they probably can't

1747
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: even see over the net. I'm just saying, okay, I

1748
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 2: hate the blood brush people, but they really are. But

1749
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: I'll take the other team. I'll take the other I

1750
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: can't pronounce it. I can't spell it. The name looks

1751
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: like an eye chart.

1752
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 3: Chang Su.

1753
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, right, good good, I left eye good pick.

1754
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 11: All right.

1755
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,799
Speaker 12: Another news sport here. This is interesting. It's called hurling.

1756
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 12: It's it's in the Gaelic games in Irons. I do

1757
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 12: after this game, I was gonna say and like toilet

1758
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 12: Saturday night, excuse me having breakfast. Really, but hurling, and

1759
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 12: I think it's a kind of similar to lacrosse.

1760
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 5: But it's like curling without to see that's what it.

1761
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, So it's a Galway versus kul Kenny. Andy will

1762
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,879
Speaker 12: start with you. Galway's even Kulkenys like Joey Galloway.

1763
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: I remember it from Ohio State. I like Joey Galloway.

1764
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: I'll go gal Away.

1765
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 11: That's what I'm doing, all right, Bucky, you're gonna go

1766
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 11: with Kenny.

1767
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: Corn Yeah, yeah, one the other way.

1768
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 12: All right, and last one is also hurling. It's Cork

1769
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 12: versus Claire. Cork is minus one thirty five. Claire is

1770
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 12: minus one of cork.

1771
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 5: Give me cork, Cork, Cork, go with the cork, both cork.

1772
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: All right, Cork.

1773
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 5: There you go. Thanks.

1774
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1784
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Speaker 5: But I do want to throw something in right now.

1785
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: I heard Kevin giving the NBA playoffs scores, and obviously

1786
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 2: the NBA basically was in the shadows of the NFL

1787
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: Draft last three days. They even scheduled around the draft.

1788
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: There were many games I think on Thursday at all.

1789
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: I don't think there were any games on Thursday. But

1790
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 2: the question I have what has happened to Kevin Durant.

1791
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: There was arguments years ago, not that far back, that

1792
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant and Michael Jordan who's better? Now you don't

1793
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: hear anything at all about Kevin Durant. They may be

1794
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: eliminated the down three zip and their playoff series. Kevin

1795
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: Durant right now. At one point in time, they wanted

1796
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: to put him on Mount Rushmore a great player. There's

1797
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind he's a great player. But

1798
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: what has happened to Kevin Durant and the fact that

1799
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: he can't win after leaving Golden State, he can't win

1800
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: Buck what's going on?

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01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think it's difficult for Kevin Durant

1802
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 4: right now Phoenix, they are top heavy where they had

1803
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 4: a lot of a plus starter talent but didn't have

1804
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 4: the depth, and they traded away a lot of that

1805
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 4: depth to bring in Bradley Bial, who they believe they

1806
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 4: needed to be the third part of a big three,

1807
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 4: and it hasn't worked out. Bradley Bil has been in

1808
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 4: and out of the lineup due to injuries. Kevin Durant

1809
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 4: is old. It's still a good player, but he's older,

1810
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 4: and I think we have to understand that he is

1811
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 4: in the twilight of his career. He is quietly put

1812
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 4: together sixteen seventeen seasons and we are kind of in

1813
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 4: a different era where we think that our heroes can

1814
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 4: play until they're almost forty and play at a high level.

1815
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 4: Lebron has bored us, Tom Brady has sport us. But

1816
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 4: the overall majority of players cannot continue to play at

1817
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 4: a super high level, not individually, but at a high

1818
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 4: level individually while leading the collective the team to higher heights.

1819
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 4: It's just harder to do when you're older.

1820
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, I mean right now, I'm

1821
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,919
Speaker 2: not going to blame the losses in Phoenix for Kevin Durant.

1822
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 2: He's averaging twenty four and a half points a game

1823
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Devin book is given you a nineteen

1824
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: on Bradley Beal's about fourteen to fifteen a game. So

1825
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it's all Kevin Durant. But there's something

1826
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: that Kevin Durant doesn't bring to the table that other athletes,

1827
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: great athletes and he's a great class athlete, bring to

1828
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: the table. He won in Golden State, but you know what,

1829
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: Golden State kept on winning after he left anyway, didn't

1830
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: win in Oklahoma City, went to Golden State, went to Brooklyn,

1831
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 2: thought he turned it around in Brooklyn, they didn't win.

1832
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,839
Speaker 2: And now he's in Phoenix and he can't win in Phoenix,

1833
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 2: you know. So there's something missing there as far as

1834
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,440
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant's concerned.

1835
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 5: Leading a team. You know, Yeah, Ron did it in Cleveland.

1836
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 5: He led that team on his back. He did.

1837
01:23:58,800 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1838
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 4: But I think it may be to Lebron's greatness that

1839
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 4: we underappreciate more so than the lack of stuff that

1840
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant has. Maybe it's more of a testament to

1841
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 4: how good and how great Lebron is as compared to Kevin.

1842
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant as Lebron has always taken a cast of

1843
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 4: nobody's or unheralded players to do it. To think about

1844
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 4: what he was able to do in Cleveland with those

1845
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 4: guys before and after the Miami situation. Give him credit,

1846
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 4: he just is a different animal. Kevin Durant certainly deserves

1847
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 4: praise for being an all timer and those things, but

1848
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 4: he couldn't and and look, it's a team game, it's

1849
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 4: not an individual game. But he couldn't get Okac over

1850
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 4: the top. And then when Okac got to the thing,

1851
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 4: he struggled, he bounced when to Golden State, and it's

1852
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 4: a different it's a different thing. Like part of why

1853
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 4: we feel the way we feel about Kevin Nanna is

1854
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 4: we felt like he didn't stick out the challenge of

1855
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 4: trying to get it done with an organic squad. He

1856
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 4: joined a bit of a super power. Now Lebron did

1857
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 4: the same thing, and that's that era. But part of

1858
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 4: the reason why we don't is he couldn't elevate the

1859
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 4: crew that he had until he got the Golden State.

1860
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 4: He was the best player in this series, but he

1861
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 4: didn't elevate the team.

1862
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: And well, if you look back, no, I don't think

1863
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 2: he elevated Golden State. They won with him and they

1864
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 2: won without him when he left, So Golden State was great.

1865
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: He just jumped on the bandwagon to get a ring.

1866
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 2: That's basically what he never elevated, broke.

1867
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 3: In that series a little bit.

1868
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 4: But in that series though, in that series, in the

1869
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 4: playoffs those two years, he was the best player on

1870
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 4: the floor, Like, no, there's no denying, and they probably

1871
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 4: went a third if he doesn't pop his achilles.

1872
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 3: You know, he was the best player on the floor.

1873
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 3: So I'll give him credit for that part of it.

1874
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 4: I am surprised that he didn't get Brooklyn up and going,

1875
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 4: but part of that is Carie. They just never got

1876
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 4: everyone on the same page, healthy and going, even when

1877
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 4: James Harden coming over and you know in Phoenix it

1878
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 4: hasn't been great so far. But we'll see. It's not

1879
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 4: too late for him to rewrite the story. But tell

1880
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 4: you know, it's getting dark early.

1881
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to touch on that for get

1882
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 2: back to football for a second. Everybody's talking about then

1883
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: everybody's uh, I guess looking and drooling for the future

1884
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: on their team because of what happened during the draft.

1885
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 5: They think their picks are going to take their team

1886
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 5: to the next level.

1887
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: The question I have, and one of the things on

1888
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 2: my bucket list has always been to go.

1889
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 5: Into the war room, the so called war room the

1890
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 5: day to draft.

1891
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 6: You know.

1892
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: I think next year I may ask the Bengals staff

1893
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 2: if I could go in, just sit in the corner.

1894
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: I want to see how it's done. Have you I'm

1895
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: sure you have. Have you ever been in the war

1896
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: room when they make the draft picks?

1897
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 6: Uh?

1898
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1899
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 4: Always as a scout, you're always in there. This year,

1900
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 4: I think it's no, not not this year like in

1901
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 4: previous years when I was a scout. Now I'm on

1902
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 4: the media side, I don't go in there, but I

1903
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 4: think it's been romanticized. But basically what you see is

1904
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 4: what is portrayed on TV. You see a general manager,

1905
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 4: You see a car full of walls, and those walls

1906
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 4: can be kind of like your white boards, where you

1907
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 4: have a board that ranks we call it the vertical board,

1908
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 4: and may be your top one hundred and twenty prospects

1909
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 4: in any position. So just based on overall grade, here's

1910
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 4: the top one hundred and twenty players that we believe

1911
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 4: that are in this draft based on what our criteria is,

1912
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 4: et cetera. Then there's a horizontal board where you break

1913
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 4: every team by position. Where you break the team out

1914
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:36,440
Speaker 4: by position, so you may have quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers,

1915
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 4: tight ends, your offensive tackles, guard centers, and then you

1916
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 4: do say anything on defense, and you rank each position

1917
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 4: player based on their grades and how they sack up.

1918
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 4: And the general manager is always weighing the order on

1919
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 4: the top one twenty versus where do our needs come

1920
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 4: in at? When I look at it horizontally, because you

1921
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 4: have all those guys separated according to grade, so you

1922
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 4: just kind of look and see who are the top

1923
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,440
Speaker 4: rated guys. Who are the top rated guys at multiple positions?

1924
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 4: You can scrimmage out would you rather have this.

1925
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 3: Guy that guy? And then you have the last set

1926
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: of guys.

1927
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 4: You have a backboard with the guys that are your

1928
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 4: free agent types or they have some character issues in

1929
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 4: those things, and you're always going through the exercise of

1930
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 4: looking at where's our team need versus who are the

1931
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 4: best players available?

1932
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 3: Not who we thought were going to be.

1933
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 4: But when we look up at the board, guys that

1934
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 4: we give in good grades to man, these guys are

1935
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 4: sitting up high.

1936
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 3: Maybe they're sitting up so high.

1937
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 4: We need to go get him because he's a really

1938
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 4: good player, and we've done all the research and we

1939
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 4: like him. And even though it's not a position of

1940
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 4: a need, you can't go wrong taking good players.

1941
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Hence, the general manager makes the call and not the

1942
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 2: personnel guy.

1943
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 4: Well, the general managers at the top of the food chain,

1944
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 4: and so it depends on how the power structure is

1945
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 4: divvied up. Sometimes the head coach has all the juice

1946
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 4: and control of the roster, so he will make the

1947
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 4: final call, but the general manager is running the meetings

1948
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 4: and doing most of the heavy lift. And when it

1949
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 4: comes to as we're getting close to the draft.

1950
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: And the question I have And I've done a lot

1951
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: of reading about this guy because they promote him, and

1952
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: he's always written about Howie Roseman, the general manager VPGM

1953
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: of the Philadelphia Eagles. They say he's a genius. Okay,

1954
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 2: the guy never played the game. How could he be

1955
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: so smart, so good making such great picks over the

1956
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 2: years if he really never played the game?

1957
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 5: What kind of knowledge does he have?

1958
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: Well?

1959
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: Does he have good staff around him? How is Howie

1960
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Roseman head and shoulders above the rest of the GMS

1961
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 2: in the National Football League.

1962
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't say that he's head and showed us

1963
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 4: above the rest of him. I think he does a

1964
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 4: really good job at what he does. I think he

1965
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 4: has a very bold and aggressive personality and perspective. He's

1966
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 4: willing to go for it, but he's smart and calculating

1967
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 4: when he go for it. He tends to attack his

1968
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 4: needs a year before they become serious problems. He tends

1969
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 4: to also want to sign his players early while they

1970
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 4: can get them below market value.

1971
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 3: Hence the extensions for Devonte Smith and aj Brown. He

1972
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 3: saw the market is bubbling up.

1973
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 4: Let me go ahead and pay these guys because there's

1974
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 4: some other ones on the horizon I'm not gonna pay.

1975
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 4: And so it's a combination of him having a clear plan,

1976
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 4: being able to articulate that plan, and having really good

1977
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 4: foot soldiers who know how to get it done. That's

1978
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 4: why your personnel department has to be connected. There has

1979
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 4: to be chemistry, there has to be mutual with respect,

1980
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 4: and they have to have a level of accountability that

1981
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 4: everyone is going to be doing their job and they're

1982
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 4: going to do their job to the best of their ability.

1983
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 5: You know, if you read anything about Howie Roseman. It's

1984
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 5: an amazing story.

1985
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 2: He wrote letters to like every NFL team while he

1986
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 2: was in law school. They went to Fordham University Law School,

1987
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 2: and they just kept on writing and writing. So finally

1988
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 2: someone gave him a chance. He worked his way up,

1989
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: you know. Really, he was like a grunt when he

1990
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: first started in an NFL and he worked his way

1991
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 2: up to VPGM in the Philadelphia Eagles organization. Kind of

1992
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 2: a tremendous story, it really is. I don't think those

1993
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: stories happen much anymore, do they.

1994
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 5: I don't think.

1995
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 3: I mean they happened all the time. They really they

1996
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 3: happened all the time.

1997
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you look around, because I can give you

1998
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 4: a similar story on Brandon Bean, the general manager for

1999
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Bean was a guy that was

2000
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 4: doing football ops for the Carolina Panthers.

2001
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 3: When I was there as a scout.

2002
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 4: He wasn't involved directly in the personnel meetings when we

2003
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 4: were looking at tape, but then quietly I found out

2004
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 4: that after hours he would spend time with the then

2005
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 4: general manager, Marty Herne.

2006
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 3: Marty Herney taught him how.

2007
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 4: To watch tape, and he kind of worked with him

2008
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 4: and helped him, and then Brandon finally had an opportunity

2009
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 4: to kind of do things as an interim GM when

2010
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 4: Marty was fired. Even though he didn't come from the background,

2011
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 4: Marty had prepared him by giving him opportunities after hours

2012
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 4: and he spent a lot of extra hours working on

2013
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 4: his craft.

2014
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 3: Then he has his opportunity as an.

2015
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 4: Interim, doesn't get the gig, but stayed around, became the

2016
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 4: assistant general manager, learned some more under Dave Gettleman, and

2017
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills came calling and he was ready for

2018
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 4: the job. And I would say that he has become

2019
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 4: an a one general manager. He hired good people, brought

2020
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 4: some people with him from Carolina that he knew and trusted,

2021
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 4: hired some really good folks outside that also were well respected,

2022
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 4: and he's continued to grow on the job. And it

2023
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 4: takes time, but he has become one of the best ones.

2024
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 4: So there are plenty of those stories. Most guys have

2025
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 4: to do it because that league is about that. You

2026
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 4: start at the bottom, you work your way up. Yeah,

2027
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 4: so I can say that's just kind of I would

2028
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 4: say that's more the norm than not interesting.

2029
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,600
Speaker 5: I didn't know that, but it really is.

2030
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it gives people hope and certainly, you know,

2031
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 2: you don't have to be a player. To be outstanding,

2032
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 2: working and kind of looking at talent and discovering talent

2033
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 2: and scouting talent.

2034
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 5: You don't have to play the game. Although I think

2035
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 5: coaching is a different animal.

2036
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 2: I think players have a lot more respect of a

2037
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 2: coach who has played the game, maybe not so much

2038
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: at a high level, but at least played the game

2039
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 2: so he feels the player feels like he's.

2040
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 5: Talking on the same wavelength as he is.

2041
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 2: If you have a guy who never played the game

2042
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 2: as a coach, I just think a player will lose

2043
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 2: a little respect.

2044
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 5: Is that true to.

2045
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 3: I would say, so, here's what's happened.

2046
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 4: Because I just told you two brilliant stories, like you

2047
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 4: talked about Harry Roseman, I told you about Brandon Bean.

2048
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 4: I would say that sometimes because of those stories, because

2049
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 4: of how guys come up, sometimes players can be frowned

2050
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 4: upon because they didn't have to go that route. There's

2051
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 4: an assumption that everything was easy for the player. The

2052
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 4: player has been coddled, the player has been spoiled because

2053
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 4: he has been the talent, and it's hard to go

2054
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 4: from being a player to now you got to do

2055
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 4: the hard work.

2056
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 3: On the other side, I think at the end of the.

2057
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 4: Day, the workers should be rewarded, the guys who are

2058
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,759
Speaker 4: at the worker bees, they should get rewarded for putting

2059
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 4: into work and doing their stuff.

2060
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,799
Speaker 3: And everyone wants opportunities.

2061
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 4: Whether you're a player or non player, whatever the background is,

2062
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 4: you need to be a worker bee.

2063
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 3: You have to be good at your job.

2064
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 4: And you know, you hope that people get opportunities kind

2065
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 4: of based on how hard they work and how their

2066
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 4: work is viewed in terms of the performance, not just

2067
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 4: on a man this is my buddy, this is someone

2068
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 4: that is the owner's son and friend of all of

2069
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 4: those nepotism type things.

2070
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 3: And you know, I like you. Yeah, I mean yeah,

2071
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 3: I mean.

2072
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 4: That's not ideal, but I do think when it comes

2073
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: to being a coach, yeah, players tend to gravitate to

2074
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 4: former players because they can have their instant connection they've

2075
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 4: been into shoes or whatever.

2076
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, that will only

2077
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 3: go so far.

2078
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,640
Speaker 4: Players want guys that can help them become better players,

2079
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 4: meaning your knowledge has to be on point. You can

2080
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 4: carry the former player card only, but so far you

2081
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 4: have to be.

2082
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 3: Able to teach and instruct in those things.

2083
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 4: And so whether you're a player or non player, the

2084
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 4: premium is the teaching. Can you teach? Can you elevate

2085
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 4: my game? Can you make the complex simple so I

2086
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 4: can digest it and play fast? That is the trick.

2087
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter whether you played it or haven't played.

2088
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 4: You have to be able to.

2089
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 3: Give the information to the players like that.

2090
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking about that, I talked about the Rooney

2091
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 2: rule for a second until about minorities being wanted to

2092
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 2: coach and give them an opportunity to coach. I would

2093
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 2: say this, certainly the NFL maybe by seventy five eighty

2094
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 2: percent African American, and there's not that many, if you know,

2095
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 2: there's only a handful of African American coaches that have

2096
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 2: been head coaches in the National Football League. And I

2097
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: would say this one of the reasons being not so

2098
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 2: much that not being hired. Why in the hell would

2099
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 2: you want to you make big money, big time money

2100
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 2: as a player, you know, after you finished playing.

2101
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 5: Go enjoy life.

2102
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: Really, why would you want want to spend eight, ten

2103
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 2: to twelve hours a day scouting and doing game plans?

2104
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 2: And I hear stories about coaches sleeping in their office.

2105
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 5: Why would you want to do that?

2106
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's so much the Rooney rules

2107
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 2: that you make good money and when you retire after

2108
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 2: eight ten years, you go out and buy a yad

2109
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 2: and enjoy your life.

2110
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 5: Am I wrong on that?

2111
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2112
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 4: I don't say the overwhelming majority of players don't make

2113
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 4: the money like that.

2114
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 3: So there's a handful of players that make that.

2115
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 4: I would say that relatively speaking, because I wanted to

2116
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 4: be relative based in civilian life. Relatively speaking, the average

2117
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 4: career for players three years, and so if you go

2118
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 4: into the game at twenty three, you're coming out at

2119
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 4: twenty six. You've made enough money to what I would

2120
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 4: say is have a great head start on life, to

2121
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 4: be able to buy a house, to not necessarily have

2122
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 4: to go and lay bricks or anything like that.

2123
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 3: But you still have to have a job.

2124
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 4: And for a lot of players, the game is they

2125
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 4: find themselves going back to the game because the game

2126
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 4: has given them so much, given them an opportunity to

2127
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 4: go to college, change their circumstance and situation, play at

2128
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 4: the highest level, so they want to get back into

2129
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 4: it because there's nothing like the game there's nothing that

2130
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:18,480
Speaker 4: feels that void, like the game, the competitiveness, the gladiator

2131
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 4: in the arena, all of those things that come with

2132
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:21,839
Speaker 4: being a player.

2133
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 3: Man.

2134
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 4: You can spend the rest of your life and you

2135
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 4: won't find anything that replaces that. The only thing that

2136
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 4: gets close to that is being a coach because the coach.

2137
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 4: Being a coach allows you to put your feet in

2138
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 4: the grass. It allows you to compete because there's a scoreboard.

2139
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 4: It allows you to have the camaraderie of the locker

2140
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 4: room with your fellow coaches and players, and you live

2141
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 4: vicariously through the players because you can't do it anymore.

2142
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 4: Your victories come through watching the players that you tutor

2143
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 4: and mentor do it.

2144
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 3: So it's less about.

2145
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 4: Like that part of it, like the Runey rule and

2146
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 4: all those things are what they are, and a lot

2147
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 4: of times you know there are other beneficiaries outside of

2148
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 4: those of color in those things. Like it's just about

2149
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 4: in all of this stuff when we talk about it's

2150
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 4: about finding the people that work hard, that can do

2151
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 4: the job, that have the knowledge and having an open

2152
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 4: mind to being willing to hire people that don't look

2153
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 4: like you or don't come from your circumstance, whether that's

2154
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 4: a player, non player.

2155
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 3: Woman, man, all of those other things.

2156
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 4: And so it's just trying to open up the floodgates

2157
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 4: to allow other people to be involved in the game

2158
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 4: that otherwise wouldn't be involved in the game.

2159
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 5: Well said, he's Bucky Brooks.

2160
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: Get him on Twitter, get him on exit, whatever you

2161
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 2: want to do at Bucky Brooks, at Andy Furman FSR

2162
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox that's our phone number.

2163
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 2: That translates to eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty

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Speaker 2: three sixty nine. Of course, we've got the blame game

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Speaker 2: at the end of this hour, so stay with us there.

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Speaker 2: But these names, these names may not be the stars

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Speaker 2: you thought that's next. You may hear from these guys.

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Speaker 2: One that's coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks, So Andy Furmer,

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Speaker 2: we are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, and Buck.

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Speaker 2: I got some players here, a list of guys that

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Speaker 2: maybe had low projections, but they may have high ceilings.

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Speaker 2: And these guys were drafted, some were not, some still

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Speaker 2: of free agentcy I'm gonna run and buy you. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you've heard of them all because you're a scout,

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Speaker 2: you know everything. About everything. I'll run the name down.

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01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 2: This guy was drafted by Caroline. I think I think

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Speaker 2: he was like the seventh pick. Let me see three, four, five,

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Speaker 2: sixth rounds, sixth or seventh round. Michael Barrett from Michigan,

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Speaker 2: a linebacker, undersize at five eleven two thirty three low

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Speaker 2: projection of course, but he may have been overshadowed by

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Speaker 2: all those names on that Michigan team. But still in

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Speaker 2: all he was picked by Carolina. What do you know

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Speaker 2: about Michael Barrett? These are guys I think that were

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Speaker 2: low projections in the draft, but they may have some

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Speaker 2: high ceilings down the road.

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Speaker 5: Do you agree like a Michael Barrett.

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Speaker 4: So, first thing first, what I'll tell you is anyone

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Speaker 4: drafted on Day three, they're coming in as a developmental player,

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Speaker 4: and so a lot of what will lead to this

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01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 4: success as being right situation, right circumstance, being able to

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Speaker 4: get on the field as a special team player before

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Speaker 4: you can ascend to being a starter or a spot

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Speaker 4: starter or a backup. With Michael Berry, like you talked

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Speaker 4: about being an undersized player, he's going to have to

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Speaker 4: do his work on special teams. He benefits from the

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Speaker 4: fact that they change the kicking game rules, So now

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Speaker 4: kickoffs are back in play. They want punts to continue

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Speaker 4: to be in play, but he's going to have to

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Speaker 4: make his work in the kicking game to give himself

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Speaker 4: a shot to crack carve out a role as a

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Speaker 4: sub package defender.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, and look, when you're draft in that position, there's

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Speaker 2: a good chance that you won't be on the regular

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Speaker 2: te and that's somewhat taxi squad that they have, right.

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Speaker 5: He won't be he may not make the roster.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's always that possibility. But it is better

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01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 4: these days now because you can take six guys on

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Speaker 4: the practice squad, so there are more opportunities for guys

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Speaker 4: to stick and pick, and the money on practice squad

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Speaker 4: is a lot different now that they've been in the past,

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Speaker 4: so you can carve out a nice opportunity. And with

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Speaker 4: that practice squad, there are also no caps on the

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Speaker 4: veteran player, so now you can take a veteran player

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Speaker 4: and put on the practice squad, where in the past

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Speaker 4: the practice squad was just for first and second year players.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Another one on the list was Cody Schrader, Missouri running back.

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Speaker 2: I think he was picked up by the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: I can confirm that, but I think I heard somewhere

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Speaker 2: that the forty nineers picked him late in the draft.

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Speaker 2: But the guy only had twenty two catches for one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety one yards and no touchdowns, So I

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01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 2: guess his stock was really low. But here's a guy that,

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01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 2: given the chance, he could probably make it. What have

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01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 2: you heard about Cody Schrader?

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Speaker 4: If anything, Well, Cody Trader was a walk on player

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01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 4: at Missouri who kind of earned his way onto the field.

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Speaker 4: He was a guy that was very productive during his

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Speaker 4: time there. He may not have what we call like

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01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 4: the elite attributes, which kind of led to why he

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01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 4: wasn't picked as hot. But look, he's a really good

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Speaker 4: I mean he's a really good prospect. I mean he

2233
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 4: did a really good job of coming on, like coming

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01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 4: on and tallying up a lot of rushing yards in

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Speaker 4: a very very competitive sec.

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Speaker 2: All right, he could I have seen locally here a

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Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati Juwan Briggs picked up by the Browns

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Speaker 2: late in the draft seventh round there as it was yesterday,

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Speaker 2: seventh round there drawn Briggs to ninety seven six to

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Speaker 2: a lineman, a defensive Lineman, good size, this guy could

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Speaker 2: make it. I think the guy could do well. I

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01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 2: think he's got a good spot there in Cleveland. He

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Speaker 2: was projected seventh round there and he went in the

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Speaker 2: seventh round.

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Speaker 4: So when you're a seven round player, like, it's really

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01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 4: trying to determine what is a redeeming quality, right, So

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01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 4: everyone has to have a redeeming trade that's going to

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01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 4: give them an opportunity to stick around and so and

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Speaker 4: Briggs this case, it's about like the size, length, the

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Speaker 4: activity at the point of attack, and being able to

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Speaker 4: kind of like make enough splash plays to give himself

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01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 4: an opportunity to extend his stay. But when you're a

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01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 4: seventh round pick, I mean you and the muck, I

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01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 4: mean you're you're, you're competing you. It's a dogfight to

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Speaker 4: can do it. So how he performs in preseason in

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Speaker 4: preseason games is everything.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me leave you with this one receiver from Illinois,

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01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 2: Isaiah Williams. I think he was signed as a free

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01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 2: agent recently with the Detroit Lions. Skuy and here's the

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Speaker 2: kind of guy you really want to see making five

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Speaker 2: nine two. I mean everything about him points that he

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01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: doesn't have a shot, short arms, they say, small hands,

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Speaker 2: but the scouts say that he could play so quality receives.

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Speaker 2: No really, I mean everything about this guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean your description wasn't great.

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Speaker 4: I mean like if you were a scout in the

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01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 4: room and you're like, hey, coach, I got this player. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: shorthand short off, just like that's not a great description.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I will say this, I would say he

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01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 4: is lucky that the Detroit Lions didn't draft any wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: So first thing, when you're a free agent, you want

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Speaker 4: to go to a place that doesn't draft any young

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01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 4: guys because those guys that are drafted get first bited

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Speaker 4: to Apple and a lot of times teams don't like

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01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 4: to cut their first round picks.

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Speaker 3: So then we'll flip over to the.

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Speaker 4: Depth chart and I'm sitting here looking and I know

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01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 4: they they just extended Amara Saint Brown. I'm looking who

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Speaker 4: else is at wide receivers. So you got Jameson Williams,

2280
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Speaker 4: Amara Saint Brown, you got Donovan Peoples, Jones who they

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Speaker 4: picked up last year. Antoine Green was a guy that

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Speaker 4: they picked up from North Carolina. I mean looking at it, like, look,

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01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 4: there'll be some opportunities Khalif Raymond is a guy, but

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01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 4: he is going to have to really ball out and

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01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 4: stand out from the time that these steps on the

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01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 4: field in mini camp, because the odds are longer for

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01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 4: a free agent, so he's going to have to hopefully

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01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 4: benefit from maybe an injury that creates an opportunity for

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01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 4: him to get more reps and more playing time, and

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Speaker 4: then he has to show out something in the return game,

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Speaker 4: any of those things. But it's gonna be about impressing,

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01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 4: and he has to have a level of consistency where

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01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 4: he impresses every day. He can't flash on Monday, didn't

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01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 4: disappear Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, pop up and have a decent

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01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 4: practice on Friday. His consistency is what's gonna give him

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to get on the field and make the team.

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Speaker 5: You know what I say. I say he's going to

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Speaker 5: be a high school football coach.

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Speaker 3: That's what I say. That's where he's going.

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Speaker 5: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I hope he makes I like to see a five

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Speaker 2: nine kid make it. It gives hope for others.

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Speaker 5: That's what it does.

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Speaker 2: Last but not least let me go. Joe Evans undrafted.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he got drafted, but I think the

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Speaker 2: Ravens signed him. Joe Evans, an offensive end from Iowa.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was drafted at all. I'm looking

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01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 2: right now on the Baltimore Ravens draft list after seven rounds,

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01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 2: I don't see his name. So I think the Ravens

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Speaker 2: signed him as a free agent, but he was not drafted.

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Speaker 2: The Iowa success story. He was a high school quarterback

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01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 2: in linebacker. He walked on at Iowa, So again a

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01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: success story. You'd like to see a kid like that

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01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 2: make it in the NFL. Long shot for sure, but

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Speaker 2: we'll see it again. The possibilities low picks, you know,

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01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 2: high end size. If I can say that, maybe we'd

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Speaker 2: like to see him make it.

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01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:19,679
Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: So if he signed with the Ravens, I'm trying to

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01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 4: look and see if he did some of the if

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Speaker 4: you sounded with the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he has going for him.

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Speaker 4: The Ravens have had a lot of success in the

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Speaker 4: past with Iowa guys.

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Speaker 3: Marcia Jana's ones. You know, Stone came from Iowa. Kirk

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Speaker 3: Farrns has a pipeline to that. Look.

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01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 4: The Ravens franchise, the Old Browns franchise, Kirk Farrens had

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01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 4: worked there teams like Iowa guys, because Iowa guys are

2329
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 4: well schooled, well taught, the technique and all of those

2330
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Speaker 4: things they've been exposed to gives them an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: make it. He has been Evans, as you talked about,

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Speaker 4: has been productive as an end. Not a dominant player,

2333
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 4: but good enough to flash and command some attention. He

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01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 4: will have to kind of carve out a role. You know,

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01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 4: last year he had nine and a half sacks, which

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01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 4: is impressive, but he's gonna have to carve out a

2337
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 4: role when he gets his opportunity to make it. And

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01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 4: for the Ravens, they are about giving opportunities to free agents.

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01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 4: Back in the day, they were all about five hundred

2340
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 4: dollars in the opportunity to streat free agents.

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01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 3: So Evans is going to a.

2342
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 4: Franchise that has a reputation for keeping free agents. So

2343
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 4: that'll give him a chance to get a legitimate long look,

2344
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 4: and then he has to take advantage of the opportunity.

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01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 2: Great, let's hope these guys make it. We long shots

2346
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 2: for sure. We want to give him a shot. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman. We are live from

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday posted right after we get out. Now,

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Speaker 2: here's a big deal a first round. There must be

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Speaker 2: a hit that's next.

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Speaker 5: But first, here's a real hit Kevin Wyatt with all

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Speaker 5: your sports.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, some of the NFL teams hold when they hit

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Speaker 10: on their draft picks this weekend, as we have concluded

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Speaker 10: the NFL draft rounds four to through seven taking place

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Speaker 10: on Saturday. Spencer Ratler, taken in the fifth round and

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Speaker 10: before him, Bo Knicks was the last quarterback taken in

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01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 10: the first round twelfth pick overall, So that's the longest

2366
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 10: gap between quarterback selections and the history of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 10: Other notable selections from Saturday Florida State quarterback Jordan Travis,

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Speaker 10: the Jets taking him, Washington signing quarterback Sam Hartman from

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Speaker 10: Notre Dame and the colt signing undrafted quarterback Keaton Slovas

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Speaker 10: from by U NBA playoffs. Lakers extend their season in

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Speaker 10: the series to a fifth game by beating Denver one

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01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 10: to nineteen to one, away to Anthony Davis a double

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01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 10: double of twenty five points and twenty three re bounds.

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Speaker 10: Denver ahead in his series three games to one. Oklahoma

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01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 10: City's ahead three games to none after they beat the

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Speaker 10: Pelicans in New Orleans one oh six eighty five. The

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01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 10: Celtics lead their series two to one after they get

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01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 10: an easy win in Miami one oh four eighty four

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01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 10: the Magic and the Cavs. They're tied at two in

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01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 10: that series. It's Orlando winning at one to twelve eighty nine.

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01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 10: On Saturday, some injury updates. Giannis doubtful for Milwaukee's game

2382
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 10: against Indiana today. He's been out of the lineup with

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01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:30,560
Speaker 10: a strain caffin. It's not looking likely that he'll be

2384
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 10: able to suit up against Indiana. And Damian Lillard strained

2385
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 10: his achilles and was seen on Saturday in a walking boot,

2386
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 10: so he's also listed as doubtful for his ability to

2387
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 10: play today. The Clippers Kawhi Leonard he had knee inflammation.

2388
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 10: He had to miss the first game of the series

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01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 10: against Dallas, and now he's listened as questionable for their

2390
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 10: upcoming game with the Mavericks. In the NHL, the Dallas

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01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 10: Stars in over time, getting their first win of the

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01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 10: series against Vegas. They won it three to two, so

2393
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 10: it's now Vegas leading that series two games to wana.

2394
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 10: The New York Islanders avoiding elimination. They want to double

2395
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 10: overtime with the Carolina Hurricanes, and it is the Isles

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01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 10: winning at three to two. They trail in that series

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01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 10: three one. The Tampa Bay Lightning stay alive with a

2398
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 10: six to three win over Florida. The Panthers ahead at

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01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 10: three games to one. Back to you guys, Thanks keV,

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01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 10: have a great day. Thanks for heloping us all day long.

2401
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 10: And of course, don't call these guys busts just yet.

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01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 10: He's Bucky Brooks, He's not bust. I'm Andy Furman. Maybe

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01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 10: I am.

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01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 5: I don't know. With Fox Sports Sunday on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Runs First dot Com. Now let's talk about one team

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01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 2: that I thought did tremendous in the draft. I want

2412
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 2: to give some accolades over here and that team and

2413
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 2: my my favorite coach, one of my favorite, maybe not

2414
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 2: the favorite one right up there to Pittsburgh Steelers. What

2415
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: a job the Steelers did in the draft this year,

2416
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 2: and we got to talk about that because I think

2417
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 2: they needed to improve their offensive line. They basically did.

2418
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 2: They needed to get a center. They got one. Look

2419
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,719
Speaker 2: what they got. I mean, they got that kid from Washington,

2420
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: Troy fun Though, and I was hoping the Bengals would

2421
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 2: get him, but they didn't. The offensive tackle from Washington

2422
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: got Zack Frasier, center who played West Virginia. Roman Wilson

2423
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 2: wide receiver from Michigan. They got everything they needed. Where

2424
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:28,759
Speaker 2: was your take on the draft from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 4: I loved it. Love I love their approach. I love

2426
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 4: how they stayed to the brand. The Pittsburgh Steelers are

2427
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 4: old school, blue collarg gritty football team. The players that

2428
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 4: they took were fit the mold when you look at

2429
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 4: what they were able to do throughout the draft. They

2430
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 4: had a couple of guys that had resting background, Zach Fraser,

2431
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:55,520
Speaker 4: Peyton Wilson. You can see them get down. They're physical

2432
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 4: and feisty. They took Roman Wilson, who is an outstanding

2433
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 4: wide receiver and playmaker, but he comes from Michigan playing

2434
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 4: on the Harbor. He also fits them mold when I

2435
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 4: look at what they did later in the draft, and

2436
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 4: one of the underrated picks that they took was Mason

2437
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 4: McCormack coming from South Dakota State. This is a guy

2438
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 4: that could do it all at the point of attack.

2439
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 4: He played for two time national champions. He has a

2440
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:25,560
Speaker 4: winning pedigree. Just a very solid, like okay, hardheading and

2441
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 4: lunch payl type draft that's gonna pay big dividends for

2442
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 4: this team down the.

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01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 2: Road, and Russell Wilson needs that. He always has a

2444
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 2: history of being sacked a lot, so they got some

2445
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:36,639
Speaker 2: protection from him for the first time now since nineteen

2446
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 2: seventy six. The Steelers used three of the first five

2447
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 2: picks on the offensive line to protect Russell Wilson. I

2448
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 2: think it's great, I really do. And I think they

2449
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 2: got a great draft. And you talk about a team

2450
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 2: moving upwards, I think that's the Pittsburgh Steelers and the

2451
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,759
Speaker 2: American Deal. I think the team that looks like they've

2452
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 2: had their say and the airs coming out of the balloon.

2453
01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 2: I have to say the Buffalo Bills. I said that before.

2454
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 2: I think I really mean that Buffalo Bills.

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01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 5: Right now.

2456
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 2: I think not that they're in trouble, but I think

2457
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 2: that they're not at full strength as they once were.

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01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 5: Now.

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01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 2: There was a chart the other day, and I don't

2460
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 2: mean to upset you, but because I mentioned a North

2461
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 2: Carolina athlete that was drafted, and they have this list

2462
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:21,680
Speaker 2: called the potential busts in the National Football League. First

2463
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 2: of all, I hate the term because I think if

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01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 2: you're good enough to get drafted as a player in

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01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 2: the National Football League, I don't know how in the

2466
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 2: hell you could have to be called a bust. Maybe

2467
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 2: the expectation factor, but if you're drafted, if you're a

2468
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 2: great athlete and you played college football and you're good

2469
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 2: enough to be drafted, I don't see how you've been

2470
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 2: called a bust.

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01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 5: Am I right right on that.

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01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's premature to call everyone to call

2473
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,800
Speaker 4: someone a bust. I think the main thing is is

2474
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 4: like opportunity and can you cash in on the opportunity,

2475
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 4: So I won't call him a bus. Every situation, though,

2476
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 4: isn't favorable to the player. So the key to most

2477
01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:00,520
Speaker 4: gas success in the league is being in the right situation, circumstance,

2478
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 4: right scheme, right coaches.

2479
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 3: All of that factors into it.

2480
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 2: Well, one of your guys, they looked on this list

2481
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 2: and as Drake May, the quarterback of North Carolina, as

2482
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 2: they could be very well be a bust. And why

2483
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 2: do I say that? Why do they say that? He

2484
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 2: was dazzling people with his deep shots and north platform

2485
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 2: throws on the move. But an overreliance on those rare

2486
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 2: tools seemed to create a tendency for May to play

2487
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:29,719
Speaker 2: hero too often. Bad habits followed, from ify decision making

2488
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 2: and fluctuating footwork to a erradic ball placement and poor processing.

2489
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 2: All that makes May and uneasy projection, especially for any

2490
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 2: team investing a top five pick. A good number of

2491
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 2: most of his passing and pressing problems should be resolvable

2492
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 2: with proper coaching. It's on May and his future team, however,

2493
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 2: to sort out his shortcomings in order to get him

2494
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 2: on the same track as Alan and Ebert. How do

2495
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 2: you like that? Do you ever hear that? Because you

2496
01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 2: kind of follow North Carolina?

2497
01:54:59,240 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 5: You know that.

2498
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2499
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 4: I pay attention to him, but you know, everyone the

2500
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 4: great thing about scouting, everyone has an opinion. We'll see

2501
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 4: Drake I have his opportunity to debunk some.

2502
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 3: Of the narratives that a out there surrounding his name

2503
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 3: and game.

2504
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see what happens. I hate to say

2505
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 2: that to you, hate to ruin your day, but I

2506
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 2: saw Drake.

2507
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm not Drake, I'm not drinking. I hope he gets

2508
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 3: it done.

2509
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 5: I do too. I do too, And I'll hold this

2510
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 5: little note here and get back on the guy who

2511
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 5: wrote this story. There we go. All right, we move on.

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01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Persureti's

2513
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 2: time for fun.

2514
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 5: Point your fingers. Why the playing game? It's freaking next

2515
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 5: the playing game coming right up?

2516
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 1: All right.

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01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Freman. We are Fox Sports

2518
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 2: Sonny and Fox Porsredio. We're live from the Tirock dot

2519
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 2: Com studios. A little thank you here to Kevin Wier's

2520
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 2: giving us the updates top and bottom of the hour

2521
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 2: all day long, Walk Ramsey running the controls, and of

2522
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 2: course top of the Hour today Mike Harmon the swollen

2523
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 2: Don't and Dan Barr will join it. That will be

2524
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 2: at nine am Eastern time. But right now, it's the

2525
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: blame game.

2526
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,839
Speaker 1: You ruin me. It's all your fault. It's your fault.

2527
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 1: What is all your fault?

2528
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 7: Maybe it's everyone's fault, the liar. That's why there's the

2529
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 7: blame game game.

2530
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 12: Let's figure out who to blame don't right as as

2531
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 12: today's show has been NFL Draft themed, as is today's

2532
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 12: blame games.

2533
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 11: So we'll start.

2534
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 5: Man, you let me introduce you. You know I'm in with

2535
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:35,839
Speaker 5: the blame game. Thank you blaming you? Go ahead?

2536
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 11: All right, all right, no, there we go. I appreciate

2537
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:38,200
Speaker 11: the intro.

2538
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 12: So Georgia has had more players drafted over the last

2539
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 12: two years than any other program in America.

2540
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 11: Who do you blame, Bucky.

2541
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 3: Whould?

2542
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 4: I blame blame Kirby Smart for doing a great job

2543
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 4: recruiting inside the portal and also recruiting and developing these players.

2544
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 4: When you win at a high level, NFL teams want

2545
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 4: those players, and so they've been the waniest team that

2546
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 4: we've seen over the last three years, which is why

2547
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 4: they've had more players drafted.

2548
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 5: You know, I'll go on step.

2549
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 2: I blamed the president of the University of Georgia, who

2550
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 2: lets anybody who could play football in that school. I

2551
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 2: think they lowered their academic standards. We see the kind

2552
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 2: of players that got great players. Are they great students?

2553
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 2: I don't think so. You know what, I think that

2554
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 2: if you get the sheepskint from Georgia and isn't worth

2555
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 2: as much today as it was maybe twenty years ago.

2556
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying.

2557
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 2: I love football, love college football, But you want to

2558
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 2: blame somebody, open the doors, let them all come in

2559
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 2: and play football. How many can read? I want to

2560
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 2: know what the reading level is on that football team.

2561
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. I'm an academic guy by heart,

2562
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 2: but I'm a geek, all right, But I'm telling you

2563
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 2: right now, if I had a diploma from Georgia, I'd

2564
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 2: say it's not worth what it was.

2565
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying.

2566
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 12: Okay, A record fourteen straight offensive players were taken to

2567
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 12: kick off the NFL Draft on Thursday night, the first

2568
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 12: defender wasn't selected until the fifteenth pick.

2569
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 11: Who do you blame, Andy, I.

2570
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 2: Don't blame anybody because the game name of the game

2571
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 2: is scoring points, quarterbacking, and entertainment, and they filled the

2572
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 2: bill by doing that.

2573
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 5: You got great quarterbacks there.

2574
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 2: Bucky mentioned earlier that the quarterback class next year will

2575
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 2: not be as strong. You can't win in the NFL

2576
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 2: without a quarterback, you know what. Any general manager of

2577
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 2: personnel guy that bypasses a quarterback that needs one in

2578
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 2: the first round should have his head examined.

2579
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 5: And that's why I have no problem.

2580
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 2: What the Falcons did with their backup quarterback with Pennix.

2581
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:29,280
Speaker 5: No problem there.

2582
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 4: I would say that in this year's draft class that

2583
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 4: the offensive players were just better. It was just a deeper,

2584
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 4: more talented collection of offensive players than defensive players, which

2585
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 4: is why leatu Latsu was the first one to go

2586
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 4: off the board, but he didn't go to fifteen. It's

2587
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 4: not an indictment on the way the league is shifting.

2588
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 4: It's just that the way that it turned out in

2589
01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 4: terms of what college was producing for this year's draft.

2590
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 12: The NBA had several playoff games during Night one of

2591
01:58:58,600 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 12: the NFL draft.

2592
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 11: It seems like poor scheduling. Who do you blame, Bucky?

2593
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 12: The NBA had some playoff games on during Night one

2594
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 12: of the NFL Draft.

2595
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, the NBA, they can't shut down

2596
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 4: everything just to acquiesce to the NFL.

2597
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 3: They're trying to also compete and establish their market share.

2598
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 3: But right now NFL is king. I can't blame it.

2599
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 4: Most times, you would think that most people would watch

2600
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 4: the NBA instead of watching names fall off the board.

2601
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 3: But the NFL just has no lure, has an attraction.

2602
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. The NBA lost Christmas now to the NFL.

2603
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 2: They can't play games during the playoff period. They can't

2604
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 2: play well games opposite the draft. You know what, get

2605
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 2: draw get together, you know, Adam Silver, me would Roger Goodell,

2606
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, get on your hands and knees and say, look,

2607
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 2: give me a break, give me something.

2608
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 5: Really, you take it everything away from me. We have

2609
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:52,840
Speaker 5: nothing left. Give them a break. Really.

2610
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 12: The AP reported this year that after the NCAA has

2611
01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 12: you know, started allowing athletes to profit off nil in

2612
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 12: twenty twenty one, one hundred underclassmen entered the NFL Draft

2613
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 12: this year, down from one hundred and twenty eight the

2614
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 12: year prior.

2615
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 11: Who do you blame, Andy.

2616
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 2: Well, I blame NIL because if you can make more

2617
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 2: money staying in school and you know, really coasting along,

2618
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 2: which basically you're doing, then going to the NFL do it.

2619
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 2: That's was nil's killing it. That's what they're doing. NL's

2620
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 2: killing it.

2621
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 11: Fucking no.

2622
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's been a big benefit to

2623
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 4: those guys because all those underclassmen that were coming out,

2624
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 4: a lot of them were going unpicked, and so now

2625
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 4: at least they get the chance to stay in school.

2626
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 4: You would like to see him stay in school, cash

2627
02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 4: in on the NIL money and also get closer to

2628
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 4: getting their degree. But at least they're getting some cash

2629
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 4: for the efforts at the collegiate level.

2630
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 2: Degree. What's that? That's what the temperature is outside degree.

2631
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,840
Speaker 2: There's no more degrees for college athletes anymore. I'm sorry,

2632
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 2: what it is?

2633
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 7: All right?

2634
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:50,480
Speaker 2: Coming up next because the swelling dome and damn fire

2635
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 2: right here on Fox