1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with on our radio. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody, It's the almost famous og podcast. It's 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Trista back with you today. I'm so so excited because 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: today I get to deep dive with someone you all 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: know and love me too. She's a friend of mine 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: from Gosh. I guess it's probably eleven years ago, since 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: she's well, maybe ten, because she's been married for almost 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: eleven years. Crazy. We first met her on season seventeen 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor with Sean Lowe, and then again when 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: she was the star of the Bachelorette for season nine. 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Please welcome Desire Siegfried. All right, beautiful, how are you? 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: How is life? How are the babies. 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm good. 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: I've been so busy, I mean, having the new little guys, 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: like really, I mean has changed our world in the 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: best way. But I'm just I literally I can't believe, 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: like a year has already almost gone by, Like I 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: don't know, I just can't even. 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: I just can't, like for real, he's almost a year old. Yeah, 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: he's almost a year old already. Yeah, it's crazy. 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, we considered having more, but 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: because of the way my body handled pregnancies, I was like, yeah, no, 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: we're done, and we got a boy and a girl, 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: so we're good. So how is it? Like I always 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: heard that having a third makes things exponentially harder. How 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: are you feeling? 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just he's just so busy, Like 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: I think he's just trying to keep up with his brothers. 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 3: So it's like, I just I just have never known 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: a busy like he is, like so busy, Like he 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: has the biggest fomo I have ever seen in anyone. 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: Except maybe his dad Chris is got fomo. So yeah, 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: he's got it. It's super cute. Yeah, it's super cute. 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: I mean it is challenging because I'm homeschooling too, so 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: I'm I'm trying. 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: To just navigate, like I'm navigating. 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: The best I can, you know, and he's he's actually 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: a really great baby, so he makes it. 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: He makes it fun. Yeah. 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: Good. And the boys are just they just love on him, 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: or the big wrestlers or what are they just. 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: I mean they wrestle each other. But yeah, oh it's 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: so cute. It's so cute. I don't think like anyone 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: can prepare you for just like watching you're older, because 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: we have the age gap. 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: You know, we have six years from Xander to Noah. 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: And it's really fun to see how. 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: The older boys, like, you know, he wakes up from 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: his nap and everyone goes rushing in. Like I'm like, 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: this boy is gonna like not know what it's like 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: to not have people, you know, loving on him at 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: all times. 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and that's a really good problem to have. 54 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that they are just and 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: because they're home and homeschooling, like they truly are there 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: all the time. How is the homeschooling going. Are you 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: enjoying it? 58 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: I mean to be completely honest, I like in the beginning, 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: I was like, absolutely not, I will never homeschool, Like, oh, 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: I could never because I wasn't a stay at home 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: mom either, and so I was working on a business 63 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: and so I think in your mind when you're doing 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: those things, it's like, oh my gosh, I could never. 65 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: But in hindsight, I realize it's only we just say 66 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: that because we don't know what we don't know. And so, yeah, 67 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: homeschooling has been the biggest blessing I have ever. Yeah, 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: like the blessing I didn't know I needed. So I 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: recommend it to everybody. 70 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Yeah, I'm definitely one 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: of those people who was like I will never and 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: I didn't ever. 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's definitely yeah, there's definitely like you know, 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: there's definitely some challenges that you work through it and 75 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: then it's just so it's so great. Like I think 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: my favorite part is just being able to see how 77 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: my boys like work and operate and. 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: The way they think. 79 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: And I don't know, I think that's been the greatest 80 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: joy of just being able to see like what motivates them, 81 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: what they're interested in, and I can be a part 82 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: of that, you know, not just secondary, but really be 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 3: involved and help them grow and you know, thrive and 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: whatever they're interested in. 85 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Oh of course, my gosh, that is a huge blessing. 86 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Just more time, I mean, as I think, you know, 87 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: I have a senior and a junior and just yeah, 88 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: it's like thinking about my kids leaving, I oh, I 89 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: wish for those days back again. So I get it, like, 90 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: spend as much time. 91 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: I know, think that they'll stay they'll stay in it 92 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: near you do you think that they'll stay in Colorado? 93 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Actually, Max has twenty schools on his list right now. 95 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 96 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: That is just because the only thing he really said 97 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: to me when I asked where he wants to go 98 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: to start putting schools on his list was he wanted 99 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: to go somewhere warm. 100 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: So that's not a lot of. 101 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Inside. So Ryan and I have just added schools onto 102 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: his list that we think that he would vibe and 103 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: would be good for him. And we're going to go 104 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: out to California and go see some schools for fall break. 105 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: So that should be fun. But yeah, it is a 106 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: crazy journey. Does buckle up your seatbelt because holy cow. 107 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I have friends who have like, you know, 108 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: the like eleven twelve, like getting into like puberty, and 109 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: I'm just oh, I am, I just dons. 110 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean we are, especially with all boys. 111 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: All boys. 112 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like they're already I feel like they're. 113 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: Already stinky, you know. 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: I Like, I like, how in the world can a 115 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: six year old have like, you know, but because they're playing. 116 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: Sports and oh, in their shoes like they're stinky. 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Oh no, oh my gosh. Okay, So we are on 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: the OG podcast, so we do have to take it 119 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: back all the way to the beginning. So can you 120 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: tell all of our listeners how you got started, Like, 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: did you nominate yourself or did someone else nominate you? 122 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: For Sean season? Did you know who Sean was? All 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: the things? 124 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, let's go back into memory lane. 125 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 126 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: It's like sometimes I'm like I forget, you know, I'm like, 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: I've life is just happens, and I'm like, oh, yeah 128 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: we met on a show. Yeah, so yeah, I was. 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: I was just fresh out of her well. I was 130 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: like a year out of her relationship that I was like, 131 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: you know, and so I just was like open to anything, 132 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: and I felt ready. I felt way more ready than 133 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: I had. You know, I was only twenty six, but 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: I still felt so ready. It's so funny as you 135 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: get older, you're like, oh. 136 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: You think you're just at all? 137 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah six, But no, I was just in a time 138 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: of life that where I was like I just need something. 139 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: I was super broke in LA, and I was like 140 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing. I didn't have any 141 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: family to help support like in LA, and honestly, I 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: felt lost because I wanted to do design, but I like, 143 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: I didn't have the money to do any of that. 144 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: So anyways, I was just ready. 145 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: It was like the time of life where I was 146 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: just ready and I had only watched Your Way, and 147 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: I had only watched like a little. 148 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Bit of another episode. Like so I obviously knew of. 149 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: The Bachelor Bachelorette, but I obviously I did not know 150 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: like the depth of it. So I walked in one 151 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: day in my roommate was watching the show and I 152 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: was like. 153 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: Huh, you know, I'm like that. 154 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: Looks I mean, this is what's going in my head. 155 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: I literally was like that looks easy. 156 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 157 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: Because because I had always had guy friends and I 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: was always like, you know, I was always a guys 159 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: girl where I could like hang out. I always had like, 160 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: you know, friends that were brothers, you know, and I'm 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: like hanging out with guys and like traveling the world 162 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: like great. 163 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: And maybe there's one I like awesome. I don't know. 164 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: I was very naive, but. 165 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: So I I think I just sat on it for 166 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: a while and I was like, there's no way, like 167 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: this is weird, and then I just apply online. I 168 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: think there's like a question of like why do you 169 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: want to date online? And I mean, why do you 170 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: want to date you know, on a show. Yeah, and 171 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: I just said something kind of like witty or like 172 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: kind of silly, and then they just called it was 173 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 3: perfect timing. 174 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: Honestly, it was all god. It was all god like. 175 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: It was perfect timing because I didn't know when they 176 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: started doing casting and I didn't know when the show started. 177 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: I didn't know any of. 178 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 3: That, and it was just perfect timing because like they 179 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: called me back the like the next day, I did 180 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: an interview, and I still was so like, yeah, that's 181 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: not happening, like down to like going to casting, like 182 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: the casting weekend. 183 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: You know, there's like one hundred people. 184 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I was literally like, yeah, this isn't really. 185 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: Going to happen. And even to a point of when they. 186 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: Gave me the contract, I was just like I read 187 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: like the clause or whatever or like something where it's 188 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: like you could be back up like where you're not 189 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: actually going on. 190 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's probably that's probably it. 191 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: Like I was working NonStop, I didn't have time to 192 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: think about going on a show, and. 193 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was really odd. But I it. 194 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: Was all just so surreal because I'm like, I'm very 195 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: introverted and I'm very reserved and so my friends were 196 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: just like, what, like, you're going on to writing. 197 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 198 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, I think that's I think 199 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: that was in my benefit because I didn't need to 200 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: go on the show, and so I was super relaxed. 201 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: I was myself, and I honestly think that really helped, 202 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: not knowing a lot. 203 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: About the show, Yeah, totally, to just I can see that. 204 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, to just be like, yeah, this is me and 205 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: if it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't, 206 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: and yeah, I just really left it. I honestly left 207 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: it to my faith. I was like, you know, God, 208 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: if this is a door that's gonna open, like great, 209 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 3: I will trust you in it. 210 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: And if it doesn't, like I'm totally fine. 211 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like we have similar stories in that. Obviously, 212 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: you know the show had been going on before you 213 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: went on, and you saw my wedding. But I went 214 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: into it too, not having any clue, Like I didn't 215 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: know what I was doing because it was brand new. 216 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: You were the first. Yeah, because I was. 217 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: Just relaxed and like, if I want to you know, 218 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: I want to travel, I want to meet somebody maybe 219 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: and maybe well, like it's very all the things that 220 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: you're saying, are like you could just copy paste into 221 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: my story. 222 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: I feel like I love that. I have never actually 223 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: never really thought about that. 224 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have any like blueprint to follow ool, 225 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: oh my gosh. 226 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: It was just, you know, I wanted to just go 227 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: for fun and do something new and travel and meet 228 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: people and whatever. Yeah. I love it. I love that. Okay, 229 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: do you remember getting out of the limo kind of please? 230 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: You have three children, so, mommy brain is a real struggle. 231 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean I have two. 232 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: I mean I do briefly, like I mean, I mean 233 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: I was the last out of the limo. 234 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: In my look Okay, well that okay, So for people 235 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: who watch the show, you know that the last out 236 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: of the limo is usually somebody that they think, this 237 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: is the girl who's gonna stay for a long time. 238 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I think so the last out of the 239 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: limo for sure, first out of the limo, last out 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: of the limo. Yeah, Ryan was the last out of 241 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: the first limo. Yeah, so maybe there's something to that too. 242 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. 243 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: I to go back. I don't even know. When I 244 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: saw Chris, there was so many, it's so overwhelming. I 245 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 2: was just like, oh my gosh, this is. 246 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: So much, especially for somebody who is introverted, Like oh yeah, 247 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: like the overwhelm of the cameras in the and all 248 00:12:58,760 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: the things. 249 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't even I didn't actually realize I was 250 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: so introverted until the show. 251 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's really interesting. 252 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean since, like you know, since like 253 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: high school, I was just busy working and I was 254 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: always around people, and so I never really thought I 255 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: was introverted. 256 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: I just didn't know. But the show really helped. 257 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: Being on the show, being on the lead part, I realized, like, wow, 258 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: like I get overwhelmed super easy when there's just too 259 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 3: much going on, and like I can't like think for myself. 260 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it's interesting. They just came out with 261 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: a new personality type. You know, it's introvert and extrovert 262 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: and there's something in the middle. I can't remember what 263 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: they called it. And I was like, you know what, 264 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: I feel that way too, because I feel like both, 265 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, the two of us, whenever we're together in 266 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: like a social environment, we're very social people. But I 267 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: definitely can like get overwhelmed and need like just to 268 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: sit down and be in quiet or watch a show 269 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: by myself or what do my laundry? Whatever? So I 270 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: feel like there's there's something to that where you're you're 271 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: a great extrovert, but you're also a great introvert, like 272 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 273 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like it's more of like 274 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: I can. 275 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: Turn it on when I need to, Yeah, but like 276 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: deep down, like like after events like I am burnt out, 277 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: and I think what helped me too. 278 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: I forget when who it was. 279 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: It was like a book, but it helped me understand 280 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: is like you're either introverted or extroverted depending on how 281 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: you recharge. And I think that's so important because I 282 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: feel like when people think introverted, they're like, oh, so 283 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: you're just like little quiet in the corner. It's not 284 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: that it's that I can be social and I can. 285 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: I can, you know, turn it on, but like by 286 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: the end of the night, I am waxed. I need 287 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: to go to bed, and then I probably need like 288 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: a whole twenty four hours till I can feel like, 289 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: oh okay, like I feel good now. 290 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and then flash forward to God giving 291 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: you three boys. 292 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you guys, I know, especially with this baby 293 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: now because like you know, like, okay, I mean my 294 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: nervous system is wrecked all day. 295 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: Long because I'm like, sure, I'm like, you know. 296 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: I have one who loves I have one who just 297 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: loves to talk and rap and sing, and and then 298 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: the other one's tear being tapping and drumming, and and 299 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: then we have the baby, and I'm like, oh my gosh, 300 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, I need to go hide. 301 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: You need one of those she sheds? Do you have 302 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: one on your property? 303 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: I so I. 304 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: Need a yes, yes, a little escape. 305 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my gosh. 306 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So back to Sean season. Were you and Catherine close? 307 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Like you you went and tell what when did he 308 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: send you home? 309 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: Fourth? 310 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: After hometowns, after my big brother, you know, my brother, 311 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: and yes, your brother. 312 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I totally remember. The whole world was like, 313 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: why are you being like this? 314 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: I know? 315 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Do you still talk to him? I mean, are you 316 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: guys close? Yeah? 317 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't say we were ever like close, 318 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: but yeah we we talk now. 319 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 320 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: It's good, okay, good, Okay. So you were four. 321 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: I was four, So I feel like what happened is 322 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: whoever you were in rooms with you kind of gravitated to. 323 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: So I actually didn't even get to talk to Catherine 324 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: until like week eight. 325 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh my gosh, yeah, we didn't even like. 326 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: Talk because there were there was like so many groups, 327 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: little cliques and. 328 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Who was your person, who was your roommate, the other introverts. 329 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: Of course, No, I gravitated to Jackie. 330 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: She was the redhead, super. 331 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: Cute, Okay, yeah. 332 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah Jackie. 333 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 3: And then I actually became really close to Daniella because 334 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: she's just like a riot, She's just. 335 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: Hilarious, yes, totally, and so she was friends with Catherine and. 336 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: Lindsay, and so that's how I started to you know, 337 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: talk to them. But when I was just too like 338 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: I did not want to deal with any drama or anything. 339 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: So I like the first week, I literally when I 340 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: saw big groups of girls, you know, crowding around, I 341 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: didn't go near it because I was like, I don't 342 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to get in the gossip and the 343 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: like all the stuff. And I'm just a little bit 344 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: especially back then, I was a lot more reserved, a 345 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: lot more reserved, and so you know, I would talk 346 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: if people ask me a question, but I wasn't the 347 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: one to just start a conversation like be out there. 348 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: And so I, to be honest, I would love to 349 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: ask the ladies that were on my show, but I 350 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: feel like so many of them like watch the show 351 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: back and was like what like because they probably didn't 352 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: even really they didn't really know me, you know, from 353 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 3: just the house. 354 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: But that's fine, that's the beauty. 355 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: Of it's all good. Yeah, it is what it is. Okay, 356 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 1: So after you were eliminated, how soon after did they 357 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: start talking to you about the bachelorette? And do you 358 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: know if they were talking to anyone else or just you? 359 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: I don't know who they were talking to. 360 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: I don't have a clue. I wasn't hiding because back then, 361 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 3: you know, they were. 362 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: Like, right, they hid you. That was honestly, that was 363 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: actually like I just I mean I okay. 364 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: So I got eliminated and there was still what you know, 365 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: two more weeks or so yep, and so I had 366 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: to stay with three Yeah it felt like it felt 367 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: like an eternity. 368 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: But I had to stay with a handler. 369 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: And we went from like Airbnb to Airbnb, and and 370 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: I was not in the know. 371 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 2: Like every morning I'm like can I go home? 372 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: Like can I please go home like I mean also 373 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: at this point, like I'm broke, like I need to 374 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: go work, like yeah, so like I felt like this, 375 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: like oh my gosh, like I don't know how much 376 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: longer I'm going to be here. I also need to 377 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: pay my bills and and. 378 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know. So uh. It was around what the 379 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: third airbnb. 380 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: That they called me to ask and start talking about 381 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: if I ever wanted to. 382 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: Be the Bachelorette. 383 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: And was it a call from one of the producers 384 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: or Mike or or Flice or what. 385 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was from Bennett. So it was 386 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: from one of the producers, Yeah, just to like see 387 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: what just to like see interesting where I was. 388 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. 389 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: And at that point, I don't know, I think I 390 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. I was cautious, I think at that 391 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: point because like I was kind of like, you know 392 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: it really you know, you really do get caught up. 393 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I was like I never got to 394 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: the love part with Sean. And so it's all worked 395 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: out so the way it was supposed to. 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You get asked 413 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: to do bachelorette. How are you feeling about doing bachelorette 414 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: back then? Were you like, Eh, this isn't going to 415 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: work out. I'm just going to do it just because 416 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: it's like the continuation or were you feeling like you 417 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: had a good chance Because for me, it was like 418 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: they knew me, they knew like what I was looking for. 419 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: And I've always said, like they're going to find a 420 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: guy much easier than just little old me living in Miami, Florida. 421 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, Oh, I mean that's that's a good No. 422 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: I wasn't there. No, I was like, you were no. 423 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: I mean I lived in LA. 424 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 3: I lived in like first I lived in like Orange County, 425 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: and I lived in LA And then I was like, 426 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 3: I don't know. 427 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: There wasn't like not to There wasn't a problem of 428 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: meeting like lots of people, right, And so I didn't 429 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't feel again, and I put 430 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: it in God's hands. 431 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I was skeptical, I think because 432 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 3: you you see how like you know, you have to 433 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: be super vulnerable and. 434 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know. 435 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if I was like, yes, I'm doing 436 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: it at first, But the more that I thought about it, 437 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 3: I was really open to the idea because I'm like, what, 438 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: how awesome, Like maybe my husband is in this batch, 439 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: you know, like maybe they will. 440 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 2: Find the right guy. 441 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: And you know, I didn't have roots anywhere, so I 442 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 3: was open to moving anywhere as long as there was 443 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: like water in the West coast. 444 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: But but yeah, I don't know. 445 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: I was open to it, and so once I decided, 446 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was all in. But I 447 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: also didn't want to put too much pressure on meeting 448 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: my husband in that group, and so I never would say, like, 449 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: my husband's in the group, not until yeah, like you know, 450 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: it's the first night. I'm like, I don't know if 451 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: you're my husband, right? 452 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: Yes, that's so funny. Yeah, but you say it like that, 453 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: I love it. So I want to know, was when 454 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: you saw Chris was it like, ah, I love it 455 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: for sight kind of situation or when did you really 456 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: think he could be my one? 457 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? He had the best limo entrant and trance. 458 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: What was it? Remind me? I can't remember. 459 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: He just got to show his personality. He was super 460 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: nervous though, so he was a little shaky. But he 461 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 3: got down on one knee and then said like and 462 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: then he said, do you mind? 463 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: What did you say? 464 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: Do you mind if I'd tie my shoe or something? 465 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: And then he said, I just wanted to get off 466 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: on the right foot. 467 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: Like but it was so funny, it's so cute. 468 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: It's so his like quirky personality, and so it was 469 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: good because it made me laugh, and you know, I 470 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: was super awkward that like standing there just like with 471 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: guys coming, I'm like, I. 472 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: Don't know what to say. Do I say? You know 473 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: what I mean? I was super awkward a lot of times. 474 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's. 475 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: Definitely interesting to look back because I'm like, wow, like 476 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 3: not my personality. 477 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: To like why did they choose me? But but. 478 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Of course they we know why they chose you. I 479 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: mean for all of the reasons. But I mean, I 480 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: think it's so funny thinking about it because it really 481 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: isn't your like cup of tea, no. 482 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: No, but you know, that's what really helped us stay 483 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: together and like not focused on what would come next, 484 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 3: but actually just going going to to like our back 485 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: to our life and really growing something that wasn't based 486 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 3: off what we can do next. 487 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: And I think that helped. 488 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's how it was for me and 489 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: Ryan for sure. I feel like that's one of the secrets. 490 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because you and I and our 491 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: hobbies and I think Jojo and Jordan were kind of 492 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: the same in that they disappeared and you know, I 493 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: feel like they disappeared and went back to their life 494 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: and like startup businesses and whatever. I wonder because the 495 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: three of us, I don't know if there's any other 496 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: bachelorettes who are still married. Obviously Ashley and Rachel got 497 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: married and then got divorced, so I don't know if 498 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: we're including them. But like, that's really interesting because I 499 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: feel like there's something to that, like not focusing on, 500 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: you know, the things that are going on in the 501 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: whirlwind and really just focusing on your relationship. 502 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. 503 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 3: I also think what I've noticed too is when both 504 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: parties are interested in fame or which is not a 505 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: bad thing to want from it, but it's but I mean, 506 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: I do see that when both. 507 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: Are pursuing that, then you're in competition with each other, 508 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: you know. 509 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: And it's like because you know, if one's gonna get 510 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: mad that the other is getting more attention, And I 511 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: don't know, Yep, you would hope. 512 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you were right. But but the fact 513 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: of the matter is that we come off of the 514 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: show and we haven't known each other for that long, 515 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: so we don't have like that really strong foundation of 516 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, a friendship or years of knowing each other. 517 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like you really got to buckle 518 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: down and get to know each other. Oh yeah, okay, 519 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: so have you heard because well, I guess first of all, 520 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: I should talk about the fact that you just did 521 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: like a major social media cleanse, So tell us about 522 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: that you were you were off, like are you feeling lighter? 523 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 6: And yeah, so I'm not a huge like browser or anything, 524 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 6: but it's still like there's still so much poll, right, 525 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 6: like even just having it on your phone and just 526 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 6: having and if you are posting, then there's even more 527 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: poll because you're like checking. 528 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 4: And no. 529 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: I just felt led for the summer to take off 530 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: social media, and so I was only gonna do two 531 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: months and then it turned into four months because I 532 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: got so good at it, and then I. 533 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: Don't know, yeah, I mean it felt great. Honestly, it 534 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: was amazing. 535 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: Like Chris would be like, you know, stuff happened in 536 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 3: the world, and you know, I'd. 537 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: Be so like what you know, and just live in. 538 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: My life, and I'm just gonna live in my life. 539 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: I loved it because. 540 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: I yeah, I loved it because you know, I I 541 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 3: am also very empathetic, so like even reading people's like 542 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: hard stories, like I would find myself thinking about that 543 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: the next day, or like you're and I'm like, why 544 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: am I carrying everybody's like stuff when I need to 545 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: be focusing on my family, my marriage, myself. 546 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know. It was beautiful. 547 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: I honestly recommend it to anybody because it just created 548 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: a new intention and you can have both. 549 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: And I think that's the key. 550 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: You don't have to break helps get you started, but 551 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: you can have a healthy relationship with social media. You know, 552 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: you just can't let it boss you around and you know, 553 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: control your impulses and control your thoughts and control everything. 554 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Reach ah. 555 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: Man, I just wish that I could do it, I know, 556 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: because you know, it is my job and so or 557 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: one of my jobs, and so I yeah, it's so hard. 558 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: It's so hard because I get caught up in the 559 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: in the scroll. And then also you know, with my 560 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: kid being a senior, like I literally just finished this, 561 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: like I got nominated to post ten pictures for ten 562 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: days or whatever, you know, a senior, and so it 563 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: just got me like on my phone all the time 564 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: because I'm going down the rabbit hole of looking for 565 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: pictures and video and you know all the things. And 566 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: with him like graduating soon, like we're going to have 567 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: to like pull up pictures and take pictures all the things. Right, So, yes, 568 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: I have found myself glued to my phone. I really 569 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: need to disconnect. 570 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest tip that I like, that helped for 571 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: me because we we've been doing it for years, so 572 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: it's a habit. Like you literally pick up your phone 573 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: and your son goes like right there and you're like, 574 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: I didn't even mean to so for me because I am, 575 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: my photos are right next to Instagram, and so when 576 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: I felt that impulse, I would go to my photos 577 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: and look at albums from the boys when they were little, 578 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: and oh my gosh, it created like this new gratitude 579 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: for my life in the present because I would look 580 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: back and just be so moved, you. 581 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: Know, by like when they were babies, or even just 582 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: Chris and I and we look like babies. 583 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, Like it was so worth it, 584 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: right because I spent say, like you're like, I spent 585 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: thirty minutes scrolling my family, you know, getting filled with 586 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: like newfound gratitude for my life or I could you know, 587 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: you know, scroll Instagram and is that what does that do. 588 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: For my brain? 589 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: Oh? I don't even want to think about it. I 590 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: know Okay, let's get onto a new topic. So okay, 591 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: so since you had the social media like break cleanse whatever, 592 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: we were calling it, genius idea, Uh, you might not 593 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: know about the next bachelorette. Do you know who the 594 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: next bachelorette is? 595 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: I did hear? 596 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 597 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: What's her name? 598 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: Taylor Taylor, Taylor, Frankie, Paul frank. 599 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna say Taylor Paul Frankie, Taylor, Taylor, Frankie Paul. 600 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeap. She is from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. 601 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: Have you do you know who she is? Have you 602 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: watched the show before? 603 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 604 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: I know who she is and the gist I guess of. 605 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: What the whole show was about, and like the sex scandal, 606 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: and I think she got another divorce, was it? 607 00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Okay? 608 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 3: Yep? 609 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: I think I have the biography. 610 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: Down, got it? So what are your thoughts? 611 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I can see why they need. 612 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: They want someone to revive the show and to create 613 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: that buzz. 614 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: So I think that's great. I think that's wonderful. I 615 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: think she will bring that. 616 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: I don't know her personally, Like I don't watch the show, 617 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: so I don't actually know what kind. 618 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: Of drama ensues. 619 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: But I will say we did have a friend that 620 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: was being pursued to be the Bachelor because they were 621 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: also going to revive The Bachelor, and so they were 622 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: eyeing people who might have you know, they. 623 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: Were going to do a new Bachelor, and. 624 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: You know, then they were like they called them back, like, oh, like, 625 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: we're not going to pursue that because did you see 626 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: who we have for bachelorette? 627 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: And he's like yeah, and then they're like, would you 628 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: like to be on? 629 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: And you know, I think what it comes down to 630 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: is if there's wife material there, yep, because like our 631 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: friends like, no, absolutely not. 632 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: But you know that's where I'm like, I don't know. 633 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: What kind of pool of guys we're going to see 634 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: and yell, serious they're going to be because of course 635 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: they don't want a dater of course. 636 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gorgeous, Yeah, and she's funny, and you know 637 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: she's if you are drawn to fame at all, she's 638 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: famous and you know all of these things. So yeah, 639 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm very interested. Ben and I for almost Famous did 640 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: a podcast when when it was announced, and I have 641 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: the very same like same sentiments like I'm just interested 642 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: to see I think it was a good idea to 643 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: pull someone from another show who already has a fan base, 644 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: who's not from The Bachelor a Bachelorette. But I am 645 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: really interested to see who the guys are going to 646 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: be and and what the support is going to be 647 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: because a lot of people I feel like, we're like, no, 648 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch because you know, she's had 649 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: she has a history, Like I guess she was accused 650 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: of domestic violence. I think she was in jail, and yeah, 651 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: she has She's had a couple, she's had. I think 652 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: she has three kids, maybe with maybe two different I 653 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: don't know her bio as well as I probably should, 654 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: but regardless, I'm like, she's one of us. Okay, one divorce. 655 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: She's had one divorce, and yeah, I don't know her, 656 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like everyone deserves love and forgiveness, and 657 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: so if she is serious about it and it's going 658 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: to be entertaining, then why not do it? Like I'm 659 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to welcome her with open arms to our chick. 660 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be extremely entertaining. 661 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: And I think that's why it is a good choice, 662 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 3: because if that's you know, it's going to be. 663 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: She's unapologetic to who she is, Like she's like, listen, 664 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: this is me and this is who I'm going to be. 665 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: And I have a lot of respect for that. Like 666 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: I agree, like me or not, this is who I am. 667 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: So whatever. 668 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it. I think that's great. Yeah, 669 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see the guys. 670 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: I know me too. Okay, So what would you give 671 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: her in terms of advice from you know, me and you? 672 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: It's funny because I get this question and I'm like, 673 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: our world has changed so much and I don't even 674 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: know if the advice that I would give is applicable 675 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: because it was so long ago. I mean twenty almost 676 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: by almost twenty five years ago. 677 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: That's incredible. So you guys are awesome. You guys are goals. 678 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: That's a goal. I love it. 679 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so cute every day. But so I feel 680 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: like the advice that I would give is maybe a 681 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: little irrelevant. But what would you say something that might 682 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: help her in her journey? 683 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? It is, It is true. 684 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 3: I mean they have to navigate a like we I 685 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: did navigate social media when it was like brand new, 686 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 3: and people were like, I'm so excited to just tell 687 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 3: you everything that they thought about you. 688 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, they grew That sounds 689 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: so crazy. 690 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: They grew up in this world social media. 691 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, how old is that? 692 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 6: I know? 693 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: But oh I know right well, you look amazing by 694 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: the way, Oh you're sissy, You look amazing. You have 695 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: not changed a bit. 696 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I honestly it's hard to say. 697 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 3: It's so hard to say, because I would say, you know, 698 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 3: put your like, put your relationship first. 699 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: Like, But for saying like advice for the show, because. 700 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: No advice for her like in her journey on Bachelorette. 701 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's got it because she's been on 702 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 3: reality TV. I don't think she needs advice on being 703 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 3: on the show. I think she's gonna kill it and 704 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 3: be awesome to watch. In terms of relationship though, yeah, 705 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: I think that if she's really. 706 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 2: Serious about the guy, to truly focus on that. 707 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Yeah, great advice. Do you talk to any 708 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: of the guys from your season obviously besides your husband? 709 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to stay in touch with quite a few, 710 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 3: but you know, life everyone started having kids and you know, 711 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: life happened. But yeah, we I mean we stayed Chris 712 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 3: stayed in touch with like the four that he kind 713 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 3: of hung out with. 714 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, now we no, not really. 715 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: No, not unless people came up to Seattle when we 716 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: were in Seattle, then maybe we would see them. 717 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: Okay, And Chris never watched the show? Is that still true? 718 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: He was the show, He just didn't he watched the show. 719 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: Oh I thought he never watched it. 720 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: No, he watched it. Yeah, he watched the show. I 721 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 2: would watch ahead of. 722 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: Time, and sometimes I'd be like I would just warn him, 723 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 3: you know, like, oh, got it, maybe you shouldn't watch 724 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 3: this episode or like watch it knowing him He watched 725 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 3: it regardless, but I would just say, like, you know, 726 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 3: this might be one you could sit out. 727 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: Got it. 728 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I'm getting wrong is maybe there was 729 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: an episode that he didn't watch. 730 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: Probably yeadly. 731 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So will you or have you shown the boys 732 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: any of the show And do they understand that that's 733 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: where you met? 734 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 2: No, so not yet. And so this is it's funny 735 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: because this is like. 736 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: We're on the cusp of that where Yeah, I actually 737 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: just told Chris like the other week, like I think 738 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: it's time, like we really need to, you know, sit 739 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 3: down with them and talk to them, because I mean 740 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 3: but you know what, because we live in a world 741 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 3: of social media and podcast and Chris's work is very 742 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: like sales, so he puts himself out there. 743 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 2: I don't think they understand that. 744 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: They know that people might come up to us, but 745 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: you know, mom has a podcast or had a podcast. 746 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 2: And dad does this, so it doesn't. 747 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 3: Ring a bell that like, oh, it might be something bigger, 748 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: so we'll see. 749 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, We're gonna have. 750 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: To kind of see I might be in the works. 751 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: Do they know, like I assume that when you're traveling, 752 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: because I feel like when we're traveling that way, you 753 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: get asked the most to have pictures taken. Do they 754 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: have they started to sense like, well, that's weird. Why 755 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: would that person who we've never met before or want 756 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: a picture of my mom and dad? 757 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: I know. I think my my oldest has always been 758 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: so inquisitive and like observing, so he always would just 759 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 3: be like looking at them. But again I don't think 760 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 3: he I think because of their world of YouTube and 761 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 3: their world of podcasts, like I think they I just 762 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 3: don't think anything's. 763 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: Weird totally, and they don't need to right now. That's 764 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: totally fine. I just didn't know if they were kind 765 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: of clued into it yet or have asked you. No, 766 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: they why is that person taking a picture? 767 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 768 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 3: Quite honestly, I'm really surprised that they haven't heard from 769 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: someone else. 770 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: But you know, well, that's what I was wondering, because 771 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: I feel like they're getting old enough to have friends 772 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: who are like, hey, my mom was just saying this, 773 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: or we saw you on my computer or whatever, you 774 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: know whatever, Yeah, whatever it is. Yeah, I really it's coming. 775 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: I think it's coming. 776 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna sit down with them soon so 777 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 3: that they know so it's not like an awkward thing. 778 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, wait, you're famous. People know who you are. 779 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: And I hate using the word famous, but yeah, but 780 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: people know who you are. Like that's great. 781 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 3: I know I'm at the because it's been thirteen years now, 782 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 3: so yeah, I'm at the place. 783 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: Of like did we go to school together? How do 784 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 2: I know you? I know you from somewhere. 785 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: That is always my go to. 786 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 3: I would love to take a poll on like when 787 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: someone says that, do they do they prefer if I 788 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: just tell them like, oh, well did you watch the Bachelorette? 789 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: Or would they prefer I. 790 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 3: Didn't say anything and then it's just as it's the 791 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 3: same awkwardness, Like I don't know, maybe I guess could 792 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 3: do a plan. 793 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: Now, because I do kind of half and half. Like 794 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: there are times when I'm like, I'm just going to 795 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: say it because it seems like they're going to be 796 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: annoyed if they can't figure it out, and then I'm 797 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: like other times I'm like, oh, really I look familiar. Well, okay, great, 798 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: yeah I must look like one of your friends or something. 799 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be like I have a very familiar face exactly. 800 00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: I have said that so often. Yes, so true, I 801 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: did have someone since you were off of social media, 802 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: maybe wouldn't have seen this and not that like with 803 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: the algorithm rory them and everything. We've been following each 804 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: other for hours, but I still don't see everyone's stuff. 805 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: But I was talking about how I was playing pickupball 806 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: the other day and a ball came onto my court 807 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: with this lady came over to get her ball and 808 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: she was like, oh my gosh, you're the bachelorette. And 809 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: I was like, oh hi, how are you, and she goes, 810 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: I am so old. I watched your show and I 811 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: was like, wait a second. 812 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 2: You're like you're not okay. 813 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: Literally, I was like, whoa, Okay. I mean, I know 814 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: you're not intending to insult me, but or call me old. 815 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: That's not the intention. She was super sweet, but I 816 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: was kind of like, well, like, I don't want to 817 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: be called old. It's the same thing. I'm sure you've 818 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: gotten this before where people are like, oh, you look 819 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: so much better than you did on television or whatever. 820 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 3: To say that I was I was just gonna say that, 821 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 3: I was gonna say in the beginning. 822 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 2: In the beginning, right off the show, they'd be like, oh, 823 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 2: you're I. 824 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 3: Don't I don't know if they said so much prettier 825 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: than like or but or they said even prettier. 826 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: But I still was like, well. 827 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: That's rude because I'm the same person whether I'm on 828 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm on television or in real life. Like, I'm the 829 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: same person. So you're literally criticizing me, yeah, while giving 830 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: me a compliment at the same time. 831 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: That's so funny, I don't. 832 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, people have great intentions, and I feel like 833 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: I if I was meeting someone that I not looked 834 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: up to is not the right word, but that I 835 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: watched in my living room and felt like I knew them, 836 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: then I would definitely feel flustered. So I don't hold 837 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,479 Speaker 1: it against them, but I am like, yeah, it makes 838 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 1: me think more about what I say to people. 839 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: Right, I agree with that Ross Yeah. 840 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So what are you going to do for 841 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 1: Noah's birthday? Any plans? 842 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: No plans. 843 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 3: I wanted to just keep a small family a smash cake, 844 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 3: and then the boys are like, we need balloons and 845 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 3: friends over and can we have like a bounce house? 846 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: And like, oh my gosh, that's like that's your birthday. 847 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: That's a birthday, yes, right, remember it? He's one. Yeah, 848 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: that's cute. Okay, last thing before I let you go, 849 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: please tell us about your book. 850 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I wrote I wrote too. 851 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: So the first one was okay, tell us about both 852 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 3: on twenty two I don't even know when, and that 853 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 3: was Road to Roses And so that's more of a 854 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 3: biography of like how I got in the show my 855 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 3: feelings towards that. Actually I feel like it like walks 856 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: through my whole entire dating history, which is quite interesting, 857 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 3: I guess. But it's funny because that was what four 858 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 3: years ago I wrote it, and I'm like, so much 859 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: has already changed in like what you would you know, 860 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 3: put out there, But yeah, it's my journey to motherhood 861 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 3: and so that's much more personal about me. And then 862 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 3: what I wrote Faith Unlocked, which is to help people 863 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 3: walk through their faith journey. Yeah, whether they're just getting 864 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 3: started or seasoned believer, just to get closer to amazing. 865 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 866 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: Does it come with like a workbook? 867 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 2: I have a. 868 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 3: Workbook that you can download on my website to go 869 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 3: with it. So it's actually like, yeah, I love it. 870 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 3: I really love like the inner healing of stuff. So 871 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 3: it's like really healing heart wounds, brokenness, you know, all 872 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 3: that stuff. 873 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: So that's great. 874 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, that's exciting. And are you designing it 875 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: all anymore? No? 876 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 3: I laid that down to do homeschool and so it 877 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 3: was perfect timing though I was ready by that point, and. 878 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's so crazy. Eventually, I think, you know, later. 879 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 3: In life, I still plan to design or have a 880 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 3: have a little like bridal boutique. 881 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,479 Speaker 2: I think I would love that. 882 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh totally. I mean, girl, I with my kids almost gone, 883 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: it's like you question what you're gonna do after they're 884 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: after they're gone, And that's definitely something that I'm thinking 885 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 1: about so gosh, if you have that in your back 886 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 1: pocket and you've already done it, that'd be perfect. 887 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be exciting when that time comes. 888 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 889 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 2: In like twenty years, exactly. 890 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: Almost twenty years, it'll go by like that. Don't blink, Okay. 891 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: It is always so much fun in catching up and 892 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: you see your beautiful face. Give Chris a hug for me, 893 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: and hopefully I'll get to see you sometime soon. 894 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully someone will get married or something. Give us 895 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 3: a reason, right, is the reason I'll. 896 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: Get together again. That would be so great. 897 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on the almost famous o G 898 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: Podcast