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Speaker 1: and speaking of our our website, stuff you show dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you like the idea of tattoos, specifically, if you

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Speaker 1: like the idea of really bad tattoos, man um, we

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Speaker 1: put together a gallery of thirty seven I think bad tattoos.

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Speaker 1: So if you search thirty seven really terrible tattoos are

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Speaker 1: should come up in Google first, where you can go

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Speaker 1: on our site and search tattoos. I think at the

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Speaker 1: very least, it will make you feel better about what

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Speaker 1: you think. It's a bad tattoo. Yeah, man, there are

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Speaker 1: some bad tattoos out there, so it's a pretty cool,

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Speaker 1: little funny gallery. Yeah, man, it's this whole tattoo thing.

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Speaker 1: They're bad ones, there are beautiful ones, they're weird ones.

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Speaker 1: It's the whole culture is just so interesting. I think,

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Speaker 1: like we we should do another gallery of like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like, have you seen these photo realistic ones? Now,

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Speaker 1: we'll put together another gallery. Man, some of that stuff

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Speaker 1: but bad tattoos are pretty hilarious. It's always nice to

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Speaker 1: laugh at someone else's expense. Yeah. So, um, the photo

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Speaker 1: realistic tattoo, that's a fairly recent event. Yeah. But tattoos themselves,

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Speaker 1: they're pretty old. Yeah, Like I was happy to go

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Speaker 1: have some evidence that's it's it gets super interesting in

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Speaker 1: the nineteenth century. But um, the oldest physical body, the Iceman, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But now it's embraced Yes, interesting, Um, But yeah, the

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Speaker 1: of tattoos in America for a while because of that. Well,

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Speaker 1: the tattooing, we talked about it in the Maori episode.

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Speaker 1: and previous to that, they had, you know, when they

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Speaker 1: people thought like tattoos were just an outward sign of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the more tattoos you had, the warriors you were,

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Speaker 1: and it's still with certain people, you know, kind of unseemly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and placement also counts too, Like if you have something

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Speaker 1: But there's this weird little anomaly in history where in

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Speaker 1: like the street tattoos that you would see. And so

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Speaker 1: even royalty to get tattooed by these masters. What's that

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Speaker 1: one guy's name, Uh, Yoshisuki horrid Toyo. Very nice, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they said, um, there was one quote from a guy

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Speaker 1: because that helped us piece together the history for sure.

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Speaker 1: But um, yeah, visiting Japan without being tattooed by say

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Speaker 1: how blood looks blue because you can see through your skin.

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00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: That's how you see a tattoo. Uh. It does fade

423
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: a little bit over the years, of course, it's nothing

424
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: that like your tattoo is gonna look great when you

425
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: first get it, and over the years is gonna look

426
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: worse and worse. So you can get it touched up.

427
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: But um, apparently the elbows, knuckles, knees, and feet are

428
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: more likely to fade over the years. Um and I

429
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: don't think we even said the needle. Uh. It's runs

430
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: were like a sewing machine. There's a motor and you've

431
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: got a foot pedal and you've got basically between fifty

432
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: and three thousand times per minute this needles bobbing up

433
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: and down like a song machine. I guess you want

434
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: the one that's going three thousand per minute, not the

435
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: prison model at fifty per minute. Yeah, that's probably pretty painful. Well,

436
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: it's funny you bring up prison, like, can we talk

437
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: about that for a second, prison tattoos. Yeah, yeah, so

438
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: chuck in prison, you don't have a tattoo gun that

439
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: goes three thousand punctures per minute. I guess is what

440
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: you call it? Punks per minute? Yeah. Um, Instead you

441
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: have things like a toothbrush with a staple that somebody

442
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: took out of a magazine attached to it, or um,

443
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: a mechanical pencil. Yeah, and you use like pen ink

444
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: or maybe they harvest the ink from a newspaper. Yeah. Um.

445
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: There's a lot of like really horrible ways that they

446
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: give prison tattoos. Yeah. They actually there are prison tattoo

447
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: guns that you can make. Um, it's not always just

448
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: like one individual puncture at a time, like they'll take

449
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: an old tape player and use the motor from that

450
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: to make one. But you see, you know how fast

451
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: the tape player motor goes it's you and fast forward. Yeah,

452
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: uh so that's not great. And I've seen where they

453
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: use like boot polo, burn boot polish and get the

454
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: soot that or melt styrofoam. Yeah, that does not seem

455
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: like it would take to the human body melted styrofoam

456
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: or plastic, it would be poisonous. And most of them are,

457
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, gang emblems or they they all generally have

458
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: some sort of meaning like why they're in there maybe,

459
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: or who they're associated with or I don't want to

460
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: be associated with. Yeah, but it's get the opposite gang

461
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: with like a circle and a slash through it. That's

462
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: a common prison tattoo. And then for needles, they'll use

463
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: everything from like springs from a pen to like a

464
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: guitar string, Yeah, guitar strings. Big. Yeah, it's just kind

465
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: of very d Y I D I Y d I Y. Yeah.

466
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: For the most part, those of you out there listening

467
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: to this podcast are not going to be getting prison tattoos.

468
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: If you get a tattoo, you're gonna be going to

469
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: a tattoo parlor and going to use that. That gun

470
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: that was invented first by a guy named Samuel O'Reilly,

471
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: and he actually modeled his invention after an invention by

472
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: Thomas Edison that was basically like an etching pin. And

473
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: this guy said, you know what if I just modified

474
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: this a little bit and had some ink go through

475
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: some a tube system, we could use this as a

476
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: pretty great tattoo gun and bam. Even today, like it's

477
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: basically the same. Yeah, I hadn't changed that much. Now

478
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: I saw that somebody uh invented one in two thousand.

479
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: It's pneumatic. He uses compressed air, and it seems like fast.

480
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: It's very lightweight. Uh, it's um just you can take

481
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: the whole thing and just throw it in an autoclave

482
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: and sterilize it whole. You don't have to take it

483
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: apart the next wave, I guess, because I think most

484
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: of them are electromagnetic now most of them. Yeah, I

485
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: think that's the only one that's not interesting. Um, all right,

486
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: I guess we should talk a little bit about sterilization. Maybe. Yeah,

487
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: I mean we just explained tattooing aside from the artistic talent. Well, no,

488
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: you do, like part of the artistic talent is is

489
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: when you're drawing on a sheet of paper, you're all

490
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: of the shading, all of that stuff. It's all on this,

491
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: you know, basically flat two dimensional surface. When you're dealing

492
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: with skin, you have to be aware of how deep

493
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: the needles going. You have to select your needles based on, um,

494
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: you know, what kind you want. Like there's needles have

495
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: different tapers which makes some point you're not pointy, different diameters,

496
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: and then they can be grouped together depending on what

497
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: you're trying to do to create big lines, rounded lines,

498
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So you have to understand what you're

499
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: doing with needles. You have to have artistic talent, although

500
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: not by law, and then um, you have to be

501
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: you have to be I guess well versed in using

502
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: human skin as a canvas. Yeah, I've seen uh. I

503
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: think sometimes they'll practice on like watermelons and candle ups

504
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: and things like that. There's an artist for themselves. I

505
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: can't remember his name, uh Vim DELVOI with the W

506
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: and his website addresses h vim delvoy dot b E

507
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: w I M d E l v O Y dot

508
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: b E. It's one of the better websites on the

509
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: Internet right now, frankly, next to stuff you should know

510
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: dot com. But he has a art series of um

511
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: texidermy pigs that he's done, like elaborate Chicano style tattoos

512
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: all over. It's really neat looking. You gotta practice on something. Yeah,

513
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: you know that this guy is selling what he's practicing on.

514
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like you can buy

515
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: one of those tattoo pigs for tens of thousands of dollars.

516
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: That's weird. So um. But so the point is is

517
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: a tattoo artist has a lot to take into account,

518
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: include just safety precautions to Yeah, all right, but let's

519
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: go ahead and just talk about what you're what's going

520
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: to happen when you go in there. Okay, you're gonna

521
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: walk in there, you're gonna be drunk. Supposedly like it's

522
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: illegal to tattoo somebody who's in toxic that's true. I

523
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: think it's up to the shop. From what I've seen,

524
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: I've seen people. I've asked tattoo people, would you take

525
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: too a drunk person? And they have And I guess

526
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: it depends on who it is, but the ones I

527
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: know have answered yes. I think there are some states

528
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: that it's against the laws tattoo somebody inebriated, so you're

529
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: not drunk, you're sober. You go into your tattoo and

530
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: you're going to uh maybe you have a design already

531
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: at the go, that's what I would recommend. Or you

532
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: can go in and look at the myriad posters on

533
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: the wall of what they call flash, which are all

534
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: the uh the clip art of tattoo world, just the

535
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: kind of ready to go like hey, I like that

536
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: barbed wire arm band, or I like that Japanese symbol

537
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: for something that I don't understand. Yeah, that's very dangerous supposedly. Yeah. Um.

538
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, you'll pick out your your design

539
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: or you come in with your own like I said,

540
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: and then they will draw it on your arm um

541
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: with uh the or stencil it or draw it um

542
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: with the medical grade pen sterile medical grade pen. Yeah,

543
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: this is before the tattoo. A good tattoo shop should

544
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: give you the pens. They're not going to reuse them.

545
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: They shouldn't. It's they're supposed to be sterile, so you

546
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: can take it home. Um, So they draw it on

547
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: your skin. They then they start tattooing, basically just going

548
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: over that outlining it is the first thing they do

549
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: they call it black work. And the reason also that

550
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: they draw it or stencil it on your skin first

551
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: is because your skin stretches during the tattoo process. So

552
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: as long as they're following that, it's gonna go back

553
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: to the way it looked before the skin stretched. But

554
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: if they don't and they just do it without a stenciler,

555
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: without a drawing, yeah, it's gonna turn out weird. I

556
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: imagine there's some free drawers, don't you think artists that

557
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: are like really so good that they can just invent something.

558
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: Sure they can in the moment, but then they should

559
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: stencil it onto your skin because you can't predict which

560
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: ways the skin is gonna stretch. Yeah, I guarantee you

561
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: there's people out there that don't stencil I wouldn't go

562
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: to a non stenciler. Um. So Josh is all about

563
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: the stenciler for good reason. Um. So they're gonna do

564
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: their black work. They're gonna outline it. It's just a

565
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: little single tip needle at that point. Um, the ink

566
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: is pretty thin, and this is basically just to get

567
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: your your basic outline going, so you know, you know,

568
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: it's not super it's not shaded or outline or or

569
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: thick at this point right and then to use different

570
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: a different needle, often a combination, a needle that will

571
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: be um stacked or flat around or whatever. And they

572
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: commenced with the shading, and the shading is um. It

573
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: connects all of the black work. It fills in any

574
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: lines or gaps. There's a gap in the work is

575
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: called a holiday. I thought that was kind of funny.

576
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: And that's like either it didn't take or the artists

577
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 1: missed that part, and the shading part is supposed to

578
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: um cover that up and connect all that to make

579
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: sure there's no holidays. But we should say, if you

580
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: pay attention to the tattoo artist, if it's a right

581
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: handed tattoo artist, they're gonna start doing the outlining the

582
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: black work UM from the bottom right and work their

583
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: way upward to the left. And the reason they do

584
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: that is because as they're doing the tattoo um they

585
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: need to clean off the blood. They're constantly wiping tattooing,

586
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: wiping tattooing exactly, and if you do that, you're gonna

587
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: wipe off the stencil. So they work their way up

588
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: the stencil rather than down where they would smear the

589
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: stencil and it would be problematic. That's right in between

590
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: each um step two, you're gonna get it cleaned and

591
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: wiped off, and then they're gonna restart again, like for

592
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: the shading and then what comes next, which is the

593
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: coloring um it's gonna you know, depending on what you want,

594
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: you might if the Kano style is not always colored in.

595
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just like outlines, but sometimes you gotta have

596
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: that thing fully colored in. And that's when it gets

597
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: super painful, right when they're going over this thing over

598
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: and over and over and you think, my god, is

599
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: it not fully colored in yet? And then they say

600
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: we're almost there, and then you feel a little lightheaded

601
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: and you feel like you might want to pass out.

602
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: And I mean, depending on the tattoo you're getting, if

603
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: you're getting like a huge piece done, like they may

604
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: just do like the outlining in one and then the

605
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: shading in another and then the coloring in another, like

606
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: three different sessions. Yeah, and over a span of days

607
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: perhaps or weeks or months, Yeah, depends on what you want. Yeah.

608
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: So then after all that, after they do each process

609
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: or each session, they're going to clean your tattoo and

610
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: bandage you that's you on your way. And like we said,

611
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: it depends on how you tolerate pain to Some people

612
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: say it doesn't hurt at all. Some people have a

613
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: really hard time with it. Well, it also depends on

614
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: where the tattoo is. Yeah, that is hugely important as

615
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: far as pain is concerned. Yeah, bony areas are are tough,

616
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: um and hurt. And I found the inside of the armpit,

617
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: like a really fleshy area is super super painful. Is it.

618
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Like if you get an arm band or something, the

619
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: inside of your arm hurts a lot, but on the outside,

620
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: like over muscle, it's not nearly as pain not as

621
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: much like I would say like a shoulder and like

622
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: upper back, like those are not going to be as painful.

623
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: But you know, it feels like it feels like somebody's

624
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: drawing on you with would be with a pin that yeah,

625
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: with a b stinger sort of what it feels like.

626
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: And it's it's fairly mild. But um, like I said,

627
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: it depends on who you are. Some people are just

628
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: like it's no big deal at all. I remember the

629
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: first one I got, I was a little I got

630
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: a little lightheaded, um and he he said it was common,

631
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: he said, doesn't mean he can't tolerate pain. It's just

632
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: like an unusual but like bodily reaction. Huh yeah, Like

633
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: it's just like stop if I pass out, Like you'll

634
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: stop winning this guy tattoo. So. Um, after they bandage

635
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: you up and send you on your way, they're going

636
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: to issue some advice for caring for your tattoo. It's

637
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: not like you just go home and forget about it.

638
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: Like there there's a process that takes place and um,

639
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: you you kind of need to be on top of it.

640
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Depending on the tattoo parlor you go to, you could

641
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: get very different and sometimes contradictory advice. Um. But for

642
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: the most part, they're gonna tell you to remove that

643
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: bandage that they put on after an hour or two

644
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: to let the tattoo breathe. You're gonna want to keep

645
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: it clean and wash it every once in a while

646
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: with lukewarm water, um, and a little bit of antibiotic soap.

647
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Antibacterial soap. Yeah, um, but you want to do it

648
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: gently and when you dry it, you want to pat

649
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: it dry. You don't want to rub it. I don't

650
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: want to rub You don't want to take a bath.

651
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: At least, you don't want to submerge your tattoo. And

652
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: you also don't want to let the shower just beat

653
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: down on it. No, and if it starts to scab

654
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: up a little, uh, just sort of let it run

655
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: its course. You don't want to start picking its scabs

656
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: and it definitely yeah, exactly, but it should scab it

657
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: flakes over right eventually. Yeah, And when that happens, then

658
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: you're supposed to put on lotion. I was always told

659
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: like you put on um neosporin or something similar the

660
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: whole time, But apparently these days they say, don't use

661
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: any kind of ointment because it can actually leach the

662
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: color out. Yeah. I've gotten two different sets of instructions,

663
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: and that's a little distressing, right, Like who's right? Yeah,

664
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean these are from like pro tattoo parlors. Some

665
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: say use ointment, some say don't. The ones who stay

666
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: use ointment. They say keep a thin layer on at

667
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: all times to keep it from scarring. Others say, don't

668
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: do that, just keep it clean and dry. Um, and

669
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: then as it starts to flake, you can put on

670
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: like a nice like light lotion to keep it moisturized

671
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: and then it will help the flaking process, and then

672
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: everything will come off and your skin will literally flake off,

673
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: scab off. And once that happens, your tattoo is complete

674
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: a few weeks after you went into the tattoo parlor. Um.

675
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, you want to stay out of

676
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: the sun. You don't want to go into pools, and

677
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: again you don't want a bunch of water dousing your

678
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: tattoo now. And you're also gonna have to start buying

679
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: clothes that show off your tattoo. Right, you're gonna want

680
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: to go cut off the sleeves of all your t shirts.

681
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: That's right, You're gonna wear a little half shirt if

682
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: you have the very popular lower back tattoo. Basically, you

683
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: want to start dressing like Mac from It's Alway Sonny

684
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Exactly. Do you want to go buy your

685
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: first pair of dickies? Yeah? What else? Um, that's about it. Okay,

686
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: maybe we're a hair product too. Uh. Tattoos range in

687
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: price greatly from depending on what you want obviously, and

688
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 1: how detailed it is too, how good of an artist

689
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: you're working with. Yeah, Well, it's one of those things

690
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: where it's like you pay for what you get for sure, Um,

691
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: I had. I've got a pretty bad tattoo on one

692
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: arm from this lady in Arizona, and it's not even

693
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: and I don't even want it anymore. You can get

694
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: them removed, I know, but then it's like why, Like

695
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: what's the purpose? It's it's under my short sleeves. It's like,

696
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: no big deal. But I'm definitely of the seventeen that

697
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: regrets it. And it's not a regret like I don't

698
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: wake up every day and wish I didn't have it,

699
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I kinda wish it in there when you're

700
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: launging at the pool. Yeah yeah, and yeah, that's as

701
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: far as I'll go with that. But you can always

702
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: wear like a black armband and just if anybody asked

703
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: to feel like you're one of my friends died, yeah,

704
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: you know, you just cover it. Oh just yeah, Chuck's

705
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: got bad luck. His friends are always good, right, Um,

706
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: but you know they can be like fifty dred bucks

707
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: for a little tiny one. Um, if you want to

708
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: get that Georgia peach on your butt, it's big. Supposedly, Yeah,

709
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: I saw two thousand pew um survey found like the

710
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: average cost of a small tattoos forty five bucks. Yeah,

711
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: But if you want like a revered tattoo artist, like

712
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: you go to l A or New York or uh

713
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: and you know you want Cat Vonde to give you

714
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: a tattoo. I can't imagine how much her hourly rate

715
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: must be. Yeah, she probably charges by the hour, don't

716
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: you think. Well, most of them do, especially for a

717
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: big piece. Really. Yeah, see the ones I've seen, they'll

718
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: just look at the piece or maybe they just have

719
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: a sent so how many hours it will take? Right?

720
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: But if they're doing like a whole sleeve or something

721
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: like that, or your whole back and it's gonna take

722
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: multiple sessions, they charged by the hour and it reaches

723
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: into the hundreds easily. But then you get to walk

724
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: around and say, Cat BONDI did my tattoo, right, I

725
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: met her because she tattooed my back. I gave her

726
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars, right, good for her, that's what I say. Um,

727
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: so that's the cost, that's right. And when you get

728
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: a tattoo, unless it is one of those ones where

729
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: you're in a state where they can tattoo you drunk

730
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: legally and are willing to, and you go in and

731
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: just get a tattoo while you're drunk. If you're planning

732
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: on getting a tattoo, it's a good idea to do

733
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: some research. I really think about it. Folks like fine, fine, Well,

734
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've thought about it and you want

735
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: to get it, you want to find the best tattoo

736
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: or just you can afford, um, because it's gonna be

737
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: on there for a very long time. Not only are

738
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: you paying for artistic ability, you're paying for technical ability

739
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: to ideal lee. So somebody who can do a really

740
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: good tattoo can make it look exactly like you want it,

741
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: but can also make it stay, keep it from fading

742
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: over time, just basically keep it looking sharp as well. Yeah. Um, So,

743
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: like you said, you get what you pay for with

744
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: tattoos typically. Yeah, and that goes for safety to Um.

745
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: We've been dancing around this, so I guess we should

746
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: just go ahead and talk about it. Huh. Um. Since

747
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: you're working with needles and there's blood, there are dangers

748
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: of course, like hepatitis. That is a real thing that

749
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: has happened. Um. Any kind of blood infectious disease could

750
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: be spread. Um. There have been zero reported cases of

751
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: HIV via tattoo at this point, the CDC says, but

752
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean in some random situation that could possibly happen.

753
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: But if they're following the protocols of safety, which is

754
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: a three pronged approach of sterilization, disposal materials, and then

755
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: hand sanitation and just basic sanitation, then it's a pretty

756
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: low chance of any kind of hepatitis or anything like that. Right, Like,

757
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be scared, but you should be aware of

758
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: the kind of tattoo parole you're walking into. And it's

759
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: not just like a blood born pathogens it can all.

760
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: You can also get like a skin infection from a

761
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: dirty tattoo parlor too, But any tattoo parlor with its

762
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: all is following the same blood born pathogens rules that um,

763
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: hospitals and doctor's offices used. And UM, So if you

764
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: go into a tattoo parlor, what's gonna happen when you

765
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: sit down and you get your you start to get

766
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: your tattoo done. Um, there's gonna be a whole lot

767
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: of stuff laid out on a tray that looks basically

768
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: like a surgical tray, surgeons instruments tray. Yeah, a good

769
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: artist will explain all this stuff to you as well, right,

770
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing, why they're doing. And there most

771
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: of the packages, the needles, the ink, the ink cups,

772
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: all of this stuff are all prepackaged and sterile packaging

773
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: that is opened in front of you. And they're all

774
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: single use, right, It's all supposed to be thrown away afterward. Uh.

775
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: And then in between uses the stuff that isn't reusable,

776
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: like the tattoo gun, the tubing system. All this stuff

777
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: is supposed to be put in what's called an autoclave,

778
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: which uses um, heat, pressure and time. Uh two totally

779
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: kill any organism on this stuff, on this equipment, like

780
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: nothing's left alive. So there's like a process where they

781
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: put this an autoclave. It looks UM. Some of the

782
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: least expensive ones look like a well, yeah that's where

783
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: pressure cooker that sits unlike the oven. UM. And they'll

784
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: put it in for a certain amount of time something

785
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: like UM, I think two fifty degrees for thirty minutes. Yeah,

786
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: you've got two methods um to fifty fahrenheigh it under

787
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: ten pounds of pressure for thirty minutes, or if you're

788
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: in a hurry, you can crank up the heat a

789
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: little bit to to seventy under fifteen pounds of pressure

790
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes, and both of those will uh killed everything.

791
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting that they put the different parts into

792
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: special pouches that you seal up. And the pouches have

793
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: these indicator strips that show whether the stuff is sterile

794
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, and the indicator strips are actually made

795
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: in some cases of UM little microbes that will germinate

796
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: I guess due to the steam that they use. Um

797
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: if it doesn't reach a certain temperature. Really yeah, so

798
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: uh if the strip and when they germinate, they change color.

799
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: So if the strip is a certain color after X

800
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: amount of minutes or whatever, that means the temperature wasn't

801
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: reached in those instruments, aren't sterile. Wow, isn't that cool? Yeah,

802
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: it's very cool. Um you Uh the FDA doesn't regulate

803
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: tattoo ink, which is uh. I was a little surprised

804
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: by that. UM. And apparently you could experience burning with

805
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: an m r I because of metallic pigments. Well, you

806
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: have to take out like piercings and all that stuff

807
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: when you're going into m R I because it's a

808
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: huge magnet. Yeah. I just had an m R I yesterday.

809
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: What my first one? What? Yeah? Are you okay? Yeah?

810
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: My lower back okay? But have you ever had one? No?

811
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: It was really weird. How long were you in there?

812
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: For about twenty five minutes? And it was you know,

813
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: the things no more than like three inches from the

814
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: tip of your nose. So bad news if you have

815
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: any kind of claustrophobia. Well, there's open Mr. I. But

816
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: I hear you pay for him, you know what I mean?

817
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: This one was closed. I would probably lose it and

818
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: it costs me a hundred and fifty bucks. That's not bad.

819
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: No good insurance. Um. And of course the first thing

820
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to do is scratch my nose as soon

821
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: as I went in there. And you just have to

822
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: suffer through. But it was the thing that was remarkable

823
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: to me was the noise. Isn't it like a clicking sound? Dude?

824
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: It's also it felt it sounded like you were in

825
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: a German dance club. Yeah, and it varied. There were

826
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: all these different noises, but it would literally be like

827
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: and it's super loud to give you earplugs and um,

828
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: really yeah, man, I had no idea. I didn't either,

829
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: like they slid me in there and they would be

830
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: like A are aren't but super loud no, And then

831
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: something else would come in and go, we are we are,

832
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: we are weird. This is nice, It's really cool. And

833
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: it would you know, it would change sounds like every

834
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: like couple of minutes, right when you got bored with it.

835
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: It's like a new It was just weird. Man. I

836
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: had no idea it made noises like that. And what

837
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out I have to look into it

838
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: is what that noise is like? Is it a mechanical

839
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: thing going on? I don't know. Have we ever done

840
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: one just on m R I. No, I'd like to know.

841
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: I know we've done it. I'm like using MRI s

842
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: is like lie detectors and stuff like that. Um so,

843
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: did you could you feel your tattoo? Is it burning? No?

844
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they were concentrating on the

845
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: lower back. And I don't have a tram stamp, so

846
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: that was no problem. The reason it burns is because

847
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: some pigments, some tattoo pigments, are metallic, and so the

848
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: m R I being a huge magnet, draws the metallic pigments.

849
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I guess towards the the top of the skin that

850
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: creates a burning sensation. And also apparently you know there's

851
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: um tattoo um makeup, permanent makeup. Yeah, you can get

852
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: like eyeliner tattooed or you know what have you, and

853
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: that supposedly can actually mess up an m R I

854
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: of a person's brain because it's often pigments. So if

855
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: you get a cosmetic tattoo of eyeliner, then you're screwed

856
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: for your just don't have any neurological problems. What's good

857
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: advice anyway? Uh, if you want to go give blood,

858
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: there might be some restrictions if depending on how recently

859
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: you've had your tattoo and what states you're in. Um,

860
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: the American Red Cross, if you have had a tattoo

861
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: in the past year, UH, doesn't accept your blood unless

862
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: your parlor is state regulated. And apparently most states don't

863
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: regulate them, so it depends. I saw that there were

864
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: a lot of regulated states. Are three that have they're

865
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: just like do whatever you want, North Dakota, New Mexico,

866
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: and Washington, d C. Like are all just basically like,

867
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: we have no regulations whatsoever. Interesting, a lot of states

868
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: don't have state regulations, but they'll have like local ordinances.

869
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: Almost all states um forbid tattooing miners without a parent's consent,

870
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: and in some states it's even a felony if you

871
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: tattoo a minor um And then other states have state

872
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: regulations where like the Department of Health regulates tattoo parlors.

873
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: And in most regulated states, which is most states, uh,

874
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: tattoo artists has to be licensed, which basically means like

875
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: you go take a health class and then pass an exam,

876
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 1: and then your licensed tattoo artists, which means again there's

877
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: no no study of artistic ability, no testing of artistic ability.

878
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: If you can pass this health exam in most states,

879
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: you are a bona fide tattoo artist who can charge

880
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: money and make people very very angry when you finish

881
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: your shoddy work. Yeah, well, you can't regulate that. You can't,

882
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, say you can't open this art gallery because

883
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: you're not a good painter. No, it's true, you know. Um,

884
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: but I see how it affects other people. I get that, right,

885
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: But it's subjective, right, it totally is. I understand what

886
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: you're saying. The The good news is is that as

887
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: tattoos have become um more and more widespread and hence

888
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: more and more lucrative. A lot more people have been

889
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: coming out of art school and getting into tattoo. They're

890
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: not necessarily self taught there, they're formally trained artists who

891
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: are doing tattoos. You can probably make more money quicker

892
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: as a tattoo artist out of art school than you

893
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: can selling your paintings. I'm sure the incomes more steady,

894
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: for sure. All Right, there's a few more things we

895
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: can talk about. Uh, you hit the car medic tattoos there. Um,

896
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: if you're a vegan, there are vegan tattoo parlors. Good

897
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: luck finding one because they're not super you know, abundant.

898
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: But those are so expensive. But a lot of tattoo

899
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: ink is made with bone jar and that is burnt

900
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: animal bones. Um. Sometimes you use the resin of shelack

901
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: beetles in the ink um and sometimes like the soap

902
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: and stuff they use it. If you're like really vegan,

903
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: you're not gonna want them to wash your skin. Was

904
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: something that has been tested on animals. Even sometimes they'll

905
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: prep the area by rubbing a piece of raw chicken

906
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: breast on it. I mean there's also you'd be very surprised.

907
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: You would never notice it unless you're a vegan though. Um,

908
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: I wish people could have seen you doing. I guess

909
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: that was good. Uh. And then of course you've got

910
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: the henna tattoo, very popular in Indian culture but also

911
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: apparently very um dangerous too. I didn't realize this. Well,

912
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: it can be um natural Hanna is derived from a

913
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: plant and that's Hanna da and that's light orange and

914
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of like kind of a rust color. And that

915
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: is safe because it is natural and it will it's

916
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: a temporary thing. It's a temporary tattoo. My friends Seema,

917
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: when she got married at her you know, before her

918
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: wedding the day before, all the bridesmaids got these like

919
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: amazing henna tattoos and she gets the most, you know,

920
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: the bridesmaids got some, but she was like all over

921
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: her like face and arms and hands, really gorgeous stuff.

922
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: And it's you know, a big part of the culture

923
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: and heritage. But um, black henna contains synthetic ingredients including

924
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: P P d Oh, you're gonna try and pronounce that

925
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: P phenyl and D mean P fenelna diamine. That's not

926
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: bad feneline diamine. I did it p fenelne diamine all right,

927
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: three times PPD. And that is cold tar. It's found

928
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: in coal tar and it can cause permanent scarring and

929
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: really bad reactions. So if you go to get a

930
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: hand of tattoo, um use natural or in chenna, yes,

931
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: or if you're a kid, get some cracker jacks. Have

932
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: you seen the Octopussy, the James Bond movie. I never have,

933
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: as I saw it the other day again and maybe

934
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: the worst movie tattoo I've ever seen. It looked literally

935
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: like a cracker jack's tattoo that they put on this lady.

936
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: First scene it's it's an octopus, and you know, James

937
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: Bond has her in bed and remark remarks about it,

938
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: and it had a close up shot shot of it

939
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: and it's literally like peeling off at the edges. Did

940
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: they dubb in? Like? Weren't his? His Bond movies have

941
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: not aged well, by the way. Which one was it?

942
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: Roger Moore and that? Yeah? I love those. I think

943
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: they're the best. Yeah. I know we talked about this,

944
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: but I urge you to go watch Octopussy. No, but

945
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: I watched um liveing like die the other nights. That

946
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Yeah, he's like inexplicably so really in

947
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, he's like real weird, like David Foster

948
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: Wallace being interviewed by Charlie Rose or something. He's like

949
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: looking at everybody out of the corner of his eye.

950
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: It's weird. Interesting. Yeah, right, there's something wrong with runch

951
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: and more. During the shooting of that one. We've got

952
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: a few stats and then I guess we can cover removal. Um.

953
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: About one point six five billion is spending the US

954
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: on tattoos each year. Um, that's this is PU by

955
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: the way to that's the two thirteen PU pole. So

956
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: you know it's quality, it's reliable. Um, fourteen percent of

957
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: all Americans have at least one two Um, if you're

958
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: between eighteen and twenty five, thirty six percent. And I'm

959
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: surprised it's a little bit older. Six to forty year

960
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: olds have the most. Now of forty year old Americans

961
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: have tattoosh. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty high. That's close to half. Yeah,

962
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: four ten And I mentioned that seventeen percent have some regret.

963
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: I think five percent to cover up the tattoo with

964
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: another tattoo, and eleven try uh complete removal, which is

965
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: what we're at here, and well almost we're almost there. Um,

966
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: there's there's twenty one thousand tattoo parlors in the US,

967
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: so again, take your time to go find the best

968
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: one that you can afford. Sure, and not just the

969
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: best artistically, but make sure when you go in everybody's

970
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: wearing gloves. All of the stuff is sterile, Like they're

971
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: not joking around with with the blood borne pathogen rules,

972
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: like they're being serious, because it is serious, because you're

973
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: getting punctured several thousand times a minute, and every one

974
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: of those puncture wounds is an opportunity for an infection.

975
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: You don't want a skin infection, So don't take it lightly,

976
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: and don't go to a tattoo parlor that takes safety

977
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: lightly to Yeah, and I don't want to discriminate against

978
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: new businesses, but in the case of a tattoo parlor,

979
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: maybe you should look at one that's been around for

980
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: a little while and has a good reputation. I don't

981
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: know if i'd go to one on the opening day,

982
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, unless they're giving out a real great discount. Um,

983
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: so chuck se people regret their tattoo have some regret.

984
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means, because only eleven have

985
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: it removed, So I guess the other six percent are

986
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: like me either, Like, yeah, I guess we'll just keep it. Yeah,

987
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: so chuck. Prior to the eighties, people still wanted tattoos removed, Yes,

988
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: but there weren't lasers available, lasers to what we used today.

989
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: That's right. Prior to this, getting your tattoo removed basically

990
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: meant you're just gonna scar over that area pretty much.

991
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Dermibration it's basically standing off your tattoo slowly. Not to

992
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: be confused with micro dermabration, which is still in use today.

993
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: Dermibration is basically like using a cheese cheese greater. Then

994
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: most isla come at somebody with a cheese greator to

995
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: get rid of their tattoo. That sounds right. Uh, cryosurgery,

996
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: which is where they freeze it off. It sounds pretty

997
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: painful as well. Yeah, and then there's just regular old

998
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 1: surgery cutting it off, Yeah, where they cut out the part.

999
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: And if it's a big old tattoo, they're probably gonna

1000
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: have to do a skin graft. But at least you

1001
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: don't have a tattoo anymore. Yeah, but thankfully now we

1002
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: have lasers and um, you've even used this right. Hurts

1003
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: like the dickens. It hurts as bad as getting a tattoo,

1004
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: if not maybe a little more, depending on what's it feeling.

1005
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: It feels like somebody's frying bacon right next to your skin.

1006
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't smell like it. It hurts like the bacon

1007
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: grease is jumping off onto your skin. It hurts bad. Um,

1008
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: But I mean like it's nothing that you can't tolerate.

1009
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: But a lot of places, um that do laser tattoo

1010
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: removal will also offer like a local anesthetic. I'm too cheap.

1011
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: I just buy my thumb and like I can make

1012
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: it through it. Not like some like huge pain tolerance

1013
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: guy or anything like that. I say, I have read

1014
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: as far as pain threshold goes, your average pain and

1015
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: your cheek on the cheap side, it's me and a nutshell.

1016
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: What how many treatments did you get? Uh? So I've

1017
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: reached a point where I'm like it's faded enough that

1018
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: it's I've shown that, Yes, I'm I want to get

1019
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: rid of this tattoo. The problem is the place I

1020
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: was going and here's a little key for you. Basically, uh,

1021
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: anybody can buy a laser and charge whatever they want

1022
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: for tattoo removal. Fortunately, we have a friend called group

1023
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: on that these laser tattoo removal places frequently used. So

1024
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: look for a group on first um and get like

1025
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: a package that you can get them for as cheap

1026
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: as like two or three sessions for fifty or sixty bucks,

1027
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: which isn't bad at all. Um. I went maybe six

1028
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: times so far, and I would say it's two thirds

1029
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: of the way gone. The problem is the last laser

1030
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: place I went to say, um, like we've reached the

1031
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: limit of lasers. You should do micro demon bration. I

1032
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: don't particularly believe them. But I haven't gone and found

1033
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: another place yet. So you're deciding now what your final

1034
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: steps will be. Well, my final steps will be like

1035
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: getting more laser removal. It's it's it's not guaranteed, like

1036
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: any place will tell you, Like, I can't guarantee I'm

1037
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: going to get this all the way off, and if

1038
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't come all the way off, then I'm out

1039
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of money. So I'm now looking for a

1040
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: place where I feel comfortable trusting their expertise, and that

1041
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: place says, yes, we can get this off with laser.

1042
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: If not, then I've got to look into micro demon bration.

1043
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: And then how does the laser work exactly? Doesn't it

1044
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: just bust apart the ink so it disperses. It's exactly right.

1045
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: The laser um is a tune to the pigment. Apparently,

1046
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: green is the hardest to get rid of. Blue and

1047
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: black are the easiest to get rid of. And uh,

1048
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: the lasers, there's different lasers used different um crystals. I

1049
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Speaker 1: guess to target pigments selectively. And it's just your synthetic

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Speaker 1: pigment and it's not gonna it shouldn't affect your body's

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Speaker 1: natural pigment. And it goes in and breaks it up,

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Speaker 1: and um, those little pieces of pigment are absorbed by

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Speaker 1: your immune system and spit out in your sweat along

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Speaker 1: with all sorts of the detritus from your cells and

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Speaker 1: all that. That's pretty cool, Yeah, awesome. I think I

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Speaker 1: might look into that. It's it's I mean, and again,

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Speaker 1: the pain is not intolerable. There. If you go in

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Speaker 1: the first few sessions, they're gonna get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: Like it's going to like go away. Dramatically. It's just

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01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: as it gets further along, it gets more difficult, and

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Speaker 1: you have to have somebody that really knows what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: knows what kind of laser to use, what pulse setting

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01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: to use it on, and isn't gonna overcharge you, all right,

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Speaker 1: So really think about it before you get one, folks,

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Speaker 1: because it's gonna cost you money and pain going in

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Speaker 1: and then later on money and pain. If you want

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Speaker 1: it removed, that's right, And that's tattoos. If you want

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Speaker 1: to see some really weird stuff, you can look up

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Speaker 1: Gregory Paul McLaren or a k a. Lucky Diamond Rich.

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Speaker 1: He is the world's most tattooed man. He's tattooed every

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Speaker 1: part of his body, including eyelids, inside of eyelids, inside

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Speaker 1: of eyelids, under his foreskin, inside of his ears, mouth. Wow,

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Speaker 1: he's completely tattooed. If you remember those two twin hitman

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Speaker 1: I'm breaking bad, Yes, one of them has tattoos on

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Speaker 1: their eyelids in real life. And I've read an interview

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Speaker 1: with him and he said they used plastic spoon over

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Speaker 1: his eyeball and pulled the eyelid over it and then tattooed.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think that's worse than the tattooing part,

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Speaker 1: like having a plastic spoon against your eye with your

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Speaker 1: eyelid pulled over it. So that's how he did it.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to see something even weird or

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Speaker 1: go look up uh stalking Cat or Dennis Avner a

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Speaker 1: V N E. R. And this is a guy. He's

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Speaker 1: dead now, but he had plastic surgeries and modified his

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Speaker 1: body along with facial tattoos to look like a cat,

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Speaker 1: like a tiger. And have you seen that bagel body

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01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: modification that's big in Japan. They go in and pump

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Speaker 1: something in to create this round protrusion on the forehead

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Speaker 1: that's hollow in the center, so it's like a bagel head.

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Speaker 1: It's it's very odd they've always wanted a bagel head.

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Speaker 1: There's like this the strange trend in Japan. That's like, yeah,

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01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: we should do one on just body modification. People take

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01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: it to like super extremes these days. Let's do It's

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01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: got whiskers, wow and planet. So he's basically like Rob

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Speaker 1: low In behind the candelabra, exactly weird. Al Right, well

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Speaker 1: that was tattoos. Everything there is to know about tattoos.

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Speaker 1: Um again, go check out our website, look up a

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Speaker 1: thirty seven really Terrible tattoos and it'll bring up a

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Speaker 1: pretty cool show for you. Um and uh. If you

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Speaker 1: want to know more about tattoos, search tattoos uh in

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Speaker 1: the search bar at how stuff works dot com and

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Speaker 1: will bring up this article by Tracy Wilson. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: since I said search bar, it's time for listener mail.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this horrific amputation Yeah from Amber about

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Speaker 1: her father. Hello, gentlemen, I just finished listening to the

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Speaker 1: podcast on amputation. Of course, it was wonderfully informative as always,

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Speaker 1: but I have a bit of anecdotal information which you

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Speaker 1: may or may not enjoy. Why I am not an amputea.

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Speaker 1: My father was. You discuss how they prepped the patient

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Speaker 1: in terms of uh. Anesthesia for a digit, you get

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Speaker 1: a little numb, for a limb, you go all under.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen eight in Columbus, Ohio, my father had the lower

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Speaker 1: half of one leg amputated due to complications from diabetes.

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Speaker 1: Since he was a diabetic who did not take care

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Speaker 1: of himself, his heart was not strong enough to be

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Speaker 1: put under, and so at the age of thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: He had the heart of a ninety eight year olds

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Speaker 1: And what they did instead of and it's desia was

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Speaker 1: perform a spinal block and then put him headphones on

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Speaker 1: his head so he could not hear the saw cutting

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Speaker 1: through his bone. He didn't. He did make it successfully

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Speaker 1: through that surgery, but sadly passed away that November as

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Speaker 1: a result of his diabetes. And this was in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. And uh, that is from Amber Nicole and

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Speaker 1: she said, feel free to share this. It's pretty awful. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well thanks Amber. We're sorry to hear about your dad,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, thanks for sharing it with everybody on the

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Speaker 1: path to diabetes. Maybe this will make you think twice seriously. Uh,

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