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Speaker 1: got through it. It was the best thing that ever happened,

432
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Speaker 1: because then I was able to go. You know, it

433
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: was just that pressing and getting through. And once I

434
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Speaker 1: got through uh skot Sky's the Liberals.

435
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Speaker 4: Scot was the lipers, every champion and every champions to

436
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Speaker 4: be a champion, a champion and carry and carried chat

437
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 4: Beata Champion and carried sheby and and carriy.

438
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Speaker 3: Shevyrat is the sports and entertainment can naked work?

439
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 4: Harry Champion and Carrie Champion is to be a champion,

440
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Speaker 4: a champion, and Carrie Chappie and the girls play a

441
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Speaker 4: champion and carry Chapion and carried sheby is the sports

442
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Speaker 4: and entertainment can naked work?

443
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Speaker 2: Do you now looking back on that time and and

444
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: and you can speak to so many differences of what

445
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: it is versus what it what it was, But you

446
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: still hold so many first And I'm not even I

447
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: haven't even touched y'all, like like she's a business woman,

448
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: like she like she could save you some money. She

449
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: is like that, that's just this basketball thing was just

450
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: something you loved. You went on ahead and did it.

451
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: Even on another level in the world of finance, which

452
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: is amazing in itself. How did you decide, because you've

453
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: been able to live in both worlds, how did you first?

454
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: How did you decide finances where you wanted to live?

455
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: Were you always some of the someone who said I

456
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: wanted to investments? I want to do so.

457
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: So you have to understand, basketball is the most exciting

458
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: thing to be in my life.

459
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: I love.

460
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, So now it goes away. What is going to

461
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: excite me the way this game does? Money?

462
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, it excites me too.

463
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Fun.

464
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.

465
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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to make money.

466
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 6: I mean what else was there? I've traveled all over

467
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 6: the world. You know, I did what I wanted to do,

468
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 6: But what can I do next? You know, I love

469
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 6: helping people, don't get me wrong, But I was young,

470
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 6: you know, I wanted to make some money. I wanted

471
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Speaker 6: to buy some things.

472
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Speaker 2: So you then where did you? I have a resume

473
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: of places, but I rather you tell me. I don't

474
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Speaker 2: know if I'm accurate. So then when you were done

475
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: with basketball and whatever that you, you took it as

476
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: far as you could go because there was no w

477
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: NBA at the time, and then you decided to turn

478
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: to finance because we was just gonna make some money.

479
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: What how was your approach to that? That seems so intimidating,

480
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: especially not just you know, because it's an intimidating numbers

481
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: are hard, especially women. We always have the same where

482
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: we really I don't want to deal with that. I

483
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: know I do at a lot of times. So what

484
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: made you say this is where I want to live?

485
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: Well for somebody who says I think that if you

486
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: looked at it, you would love it.

487
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's just a.

488
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Speaker 1: It's a strange thing. It's it's exposure. Really. But in

489
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: the sport, I learned that I could do anything. That's

490
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: what the coach always told me. Hey, you can play

491
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: that position, you can play that position, you can do this.

492
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: I went to college. How did I do that? I

493
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: wasn't encouraged. You know, I've figured it out along the way,

494
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: and once our started went and on some levels that

495
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know that I could, especially being a student athlete,

496
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: which is tough. I was on my way. So I

497
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: was playing in Japan. I left Europe and now I'm

498
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: in Japan. But I played for a company called die

499
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Wash Securities, which is a brokerage firm my team. My

500
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: friends played for the Bank of Tokyo, so they worked

501
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: for the Bank of Tokyo and they played basketball. Well,

502
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to work for my company, but I couldn't

503
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: understand the knee k exchange. So I thought, okay, no problem.

504
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: When I go home, I'm going to start looking at

505
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: the Dale Jones and I'm going to figure this out.

506
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I have not a lot of money,

507
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 6: but it's not really a lot of money. At that time,

508
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 6: it was time and money.

509
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: So you put your money up early, it'll grow for you.

510
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: And I knew that, and so when I got back,

511
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I was I came back and worked a job as

512
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Speaker 1: an athletic director. But I met a lady who was

513
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Speaker 1: on Wall Street. She came to a golf tournament that

514
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Speaker 1: we had, and you know, we're usually in the position,

515
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: or I've seen it this way where you know you're

516
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: asking for a check, you know you're on the receiving end.

517
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: But here comes his sister in there, and she's got

518
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: this big check in her hand, you know, the big cardboard,

519
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: and she's donating to our program. She had a program

520
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: call from Wall Street to your street, and I said,

521
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: I want to be her. I don't want to be

522
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: the one receiving it. I want to be the one

523
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Speaker 1: giving it away. So I went and started to have

524
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Speaker 1: a conversation with her. We kind of hit it off,

525
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Speaker 1: and she started telling me about the business, and she said,

526
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: you know what, you would be great for this business.

527
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: Like really, I said, you don't know what I've been thinking.

528
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: Just prior to that, you know, I had put my

529
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: little money with my little stock broker. I called my broker,

530
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure out if I could retire.

531
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: Didn't have there enough money, embarrassed to say so. But

532
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: what I what I learned was you if you don't

533
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: ask the right questions, you're not gonna get the answers correct,

534
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: you know. And so I don't feel like she was

535
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: answering the questions that I wanted. So I kind of

536
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: got mad and went and bought all these books from

537
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: the you know, from the bookstore, trying to learn about

538
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: Wall Street and investing because I wanted to be able

539
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: to help somebody and answer the questions that weren't answered

540
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: for me. And that's how I got into it. And

541
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 1: when I met her. Name is Pat Winnings, who had

542
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: came to our golf tournament and gave us that check.

543
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: I talked to her and she saw my passion. She said,

544
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: you know what, if you're interested in being, you know,

545
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: learning more, here's my card. You call me Monday, and uh,

546
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, I was excited the whole weekend, but I

547
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: called her.

548
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 6: Uh.

549
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: She told me that, uh, there was a place around

550
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: the corner that I could go and get some books,

551
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: take a class, get my series seven's license, and she

552
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: would teach me the rest. And she was from New York.

553
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm in Kansas City. But there was a guy that

554
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: came on every lunch hour that uh, you know, talked

555
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: about investing. I made an appointment with him. I went

556
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: to his office. I said, look, I got this book.

557
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: I've got to learn it. Can you help me? And

558
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: he just broke it down for me. Just here, you

559
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: study this this week, this next week and followed through.

560
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: I've given you the map. You don't deviate, you will pass.

561
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: I love it. And that's what happened.

562
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. I love it.

563
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: So I passed my test. And I wanted to go

564
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: to Texas because I was intimidated by New York and

565
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Miss Winnings. She was expanding to Texas. But she said, hey,

566
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: on that you know what, you're gonna learn this stuff.

567
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: You gotta come to New York. You may as well

568
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: get in the mix. And I went to New York,

569
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: a city that I feared, a city that I came

570
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 1: to love. It wasn't that big monster once I got

571
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: used to not speaking to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it

572
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: was great. Uh it was when the market was at

573
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: it's all time high ninety five. I mean I saw things,

574
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: I experienced the best of the best, and uh, you know,

575
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: it's it's been a great experience.

576
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: Deserve you deserve all of that. Now, do you still practice,

577
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: do you still work in finance? You give off advice

578
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: or you are you fully retired?

579
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: No, I'm not fully retired, but you know I do

580
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: watch the market. I am invested in the market. Uh

581
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: I I reserve. I guess giving advice. You know me

582
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: and trust me. You know.

583
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: A little money, yeah, I get it, yeah, little a

584
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: little change you gotta Yeah, No, it scare money. Don't

585
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: make money. This is a business for folks who are

586
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: ready to do it.

587
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: They heard that, but that's great.

588
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: It don't make you no money. So you got to

589
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: go out there and be like I believe, I trust me. I.

590
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: But you can do it systematically, yeah, you know, and

591
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: just just do it over time, and I tell you

592
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: it'll come back and help you one day.

593
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: So let's talk about and I and I and I

594
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: and I'm making our right turn back to basketball, folks,

595
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: because you know, I love the sports. At thirty eight,

596
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: at thirty eight years old, which I think is young,

597
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: thirty eight years young, you decided to join the w NBA.

598
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: And that was because that was the opportunity giving to you,

599
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: as it was for so many of the greats who

600
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: never had the opportunity to play in the level right

601
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: out of college. You guys had to go overseas. So

602
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: they're forming the w NBA. And who I want to

603
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: know how the call came. Was it, hey, I hear

604
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: this is happening, or was someone like, hey, line, we

605
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: need you. We're about to do it.

606
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: For I heard about it. And you have to understand,

607
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: growing up, you always wish that you had a professional

608
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: league like the guys. Sure, the times we're overseas, we're lonely,

609
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: we're sitting talking. Why can't we be doing this at home?

610
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: Correct?

611
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: You know?

612
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: And then finally it opens up, Well, it's at the

613
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: end of my career. But that's okay. I decided, Okay,

614
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: if I can get in shape, Yeah, if I can

615
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: get in shape, I'm going to at least try it

616
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: for a year. Yeah. And I was able to just

617
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: work hard enough. I mean I did everything you do.

618
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: I did boxing, I did running, I did swearing. I mean,

619
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: I did so many things to try to get my

620
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: body back in shape so that I could go up

621
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: and down the floor the way you have to in

622
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: a professional league. But somehow God gave me the grace

623
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: to do it. And I was part of that inaugural season,

624
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: played great, didn't get an injury, played for two years,

625
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: and was able to walk away from the game.

626
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: And more importantly, you had a dream, real do you?

627
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: You had You were able to take part in something

628
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: that was denied for so long, for so many of

629
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: these great I mean, like, I don't think people understand.

630
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: Like now you can go to school and say I

631
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: want to be a doctor, I want to be a politician,

632
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: I want to be a practitioner in whatever field. I

633
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: want to create my own.

634
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: But you can.

635
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: No one saying no to you. The opportunities are endless,

636
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: and you were told no, you and so many other

637
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: greats were told Noah me as fans of the sport

638
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: and people of this were denied the opportunity to watch

639
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: you do what you do best and I and for me,

640
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: you being able to have that two years, one year,

641
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 2: six months, like, that's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing.

642
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 6: Yeah.

643
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: The beautiful thing is that for me, it was never there.

644
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: But once I got to that point, a door would open.

645
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: So I just had to continue to do what I did,

646
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: just train, be disciplined, and keep the faith, and when

647
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: I get to that junction, the door would.

648
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: Man, I'm alwa about.

649
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: Doing that is the most amazing thing that has happened

650
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: in the whole you know.

651
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: So you know, you're like, I was prepared. I was prepared,

652
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: Like because you know, preparation meets opportunity, and this is

653
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do. You're like, gotta get ready. I'm

654
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: gonna get ready. You already have the skill set to

655
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: get ready. Okay, I got a box. I gotta do

656
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: all the things. You better than me though, because I'm lazy,

657
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: but physically no, I hustle. I hustled, but physically I'm like,

658
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: do we have to run are we running? My chest

659
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: is burning the hard work, yes, hard.

660
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: Every champion and Cary Champions to be a champion, out

661
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: a champion and carry chappion and carry Chatty out a

662
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 4: champion and carry chappion and.

663
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: Carry chat and entertainment and make it work.

664
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 4: Harry Champion and carry champions to be a champion of

665
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: Champion and carey chap and they and they care with

666
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: Chappy and.

667
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: They care with Shet.

668
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: And then where then the very first? Right here we

669
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: go with our first because we love it. The very

670
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: first woman to be a part of the Globetrotters. I

671
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: need you to that experience. Being the first. It's sometimes

672
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm not using the right word. Sometimes it's overrated in

673
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: terms of the glory that you think that comes with it,

674
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: because it's so really it's really difficult to be the

675
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: first because of things that happen that we we the

676
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: ordinary pedestrian person watching on from the outside doesn't understand.

677
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: All we can see is the first. We're doing this

678
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: with the Harlem Globetrotters. That's amazing. It's a big deal.

679
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: Can you walk me through that, because I want to

680
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: make sure I understand the particulars of being the first yes, First.

681
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: Of all, however the courtins line up. However God does things.

682
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: I had a cousin who played with the Harlem Globe

683
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: Trotters for over twenty four years. His name is Hubert

684
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Geese Osby. He was a showman, one of the greatest

685
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: trotters to ever be a trotter if you will, if

686
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: you google him, you will see. But he would come

687
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: to our family picnics and as children he do his

688
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: ball handling for us, and we were amazed. I was

689
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: amazed at the wizardry, the way he could spin the

690
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: ball and do all these tricks. It was just I

691
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: just loved it. And I found myself in the spare

692
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: time when I wasn't shooting the basket ball on the court,

693
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: I would try to do the ball handling tricks the

694
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: wizardry that I saw him do. I would try to

695
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: imitate it. And so I said to myself one day

696
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: that even when I stopped playing basketball and no one

697
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: else knows that I can play, I will be able

698
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: to pick up the basketball and still be able to

699
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: do the wizardry and show you some glimpses of the past.

700
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: And so I always worked on that. If I saw

701
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: someone do something that I thought was fancy and I liked.

702
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: I would go to them and ask them to teach me,

703
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: and they did so. Over time, I had strunk together

704
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: a nice little routine with the ball, and I practiced

705
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: it every day got very good at it. It was

706
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: my dream to play for the Harlem Glow Charters. As

707
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: a player, you always pretend to be somebody or to

708
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: be a part of a team. And my team was

709
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: a Globe Charters because of my cousin, and so that's

710
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: why my style went that way. And so this dream,

711
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: this was when I was, you know what, six seven

712
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: years old. This dream until I was twenty six, and

713
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: it came to fruition. But when I was in college,

714
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: I told my college coach of this dream. She helped

715
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: me write a letter to the Globe Chatters. I really

716
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: thought it was going to go to the front office

717
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: and they would understand.

718
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 6: But I realized, when I became a Globe child, there's

719
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 6: a bag of male like Santa Claus that's.

720
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Going ever ye a letter. But it felt good writing,

721
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: you know. At some point after the Olympics in nineteen

722
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: eighty four, which was in Los Angeles, California, the Globe

723
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: charters were in the stands, and as they're known for innovators,

724
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: they were looking for somebody to help revive them because

725
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: they had kind of, you know, gone down a little bit,

726
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: and so they had that great idea, Hey, we're going

727
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: to have a female. They came to the games, they

728
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: saw that we could play, and they wanted to make

729
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: it happen. I didn't know this at that time. A

730
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: month later, we've got the gold medal. I'm home resting,

731
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: and who gives me a call on the phone. It's

732
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: my cousin de Sawsby. So he's calling me to congratulate

733
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: me about the gold medal. Well, this is the first

734
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: time that I can ask him, Hey, what do you

735
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: think about a female being on the team. This is

736
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: something I dreamed about all my life. But he didn't

737
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: answer me the way I thought he would. I thought

738
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: he was going to say, oh, yeah, you know what,

739
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Let me go to management. You know,

740
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: maybe we could work something out for you. It didn't

741
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: go like that. His response to me, I was, you know,

742
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: and that you know, I don't know if my teammates

743
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: would go for that. I don't know what it would

744
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: be like for a woman to be on the road.

745
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't mean any harm, but he was

746
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: just trying. Yeah. Yeah, And so I remember hanging up

747
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: the phone a little downhearted because I had believed this dream.

748
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: I had spoken this dream. I told everybody from who

749
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: would listen to me, if this is going to happen.

750
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: So I'm really beginning to feel like maybe they thought

751
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: I was, you know, kind of crazy. Yeah, because I

752
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: loved it too much and I maybe should step off

753
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: the train, but I wouldn't do it. It was so

754
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: much a part of my spirit. I had read something

755
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: just recently from.

756
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 6: That time that I spoke with him that if ever

757
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 6: you pray, say exactly what you want, don't beat around

758
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 6: the bush.

759
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Pray retail versus wholesale. That's how i'd read. So that

760
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: meant to me, say what you want in your prayer.

761
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: So I went to bed that night and I prayed.

762
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: I said, Lord, I want to play for the Harlem

763
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: Globe Trotters. I said, no one knows what I'm thinking.

764
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: You know, you could either take this out of my

765
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: heart and I can go on and buy anyone's standards.

766
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: I have enough. I got a college degree, I got

767
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: a gold medal. I've been overseas, I've traveled around the world.

768
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 6: I've got all these things, but it's something in my

769
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 6: heart that I want to continue to play.

770
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Can you make it happen me?

771
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

772
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: Thank you?

773
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I said, I left her. He didn't answer me.

774
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: He didn't call me back the next day. But what

775
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: did happen? I could not stop training? Yeah, and so

776
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: I continued to train. It was about six weeks. I

777
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: go down to the basketball office. I'm just dragging. I'm training.

778
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: I just go in the office. I pick up the paper.

779
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: It was a USA today. At the top of the

780
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: paper it said that the glow Charters were going to

781
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: go co ed for the eighty five eighty six season.

782
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: My rigal blurred, I'm like, what this is it? Oh

783
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: my god, he heard me. It was like, was answered.

784
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: I didn't say I was going to make the team,

785
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: but he heard my prayer, which meant to me, you know,

786
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: if this is not it, I do have something for you.

787
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: I heard you. I heard you. And so after that,

788
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: the glove Chrotters had a tryout in Charlotte, North Carolina.

789
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Twenty six women were invited all over the United States.

790
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: We then went to Burbank, California, had another try out.

791
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: Because they couldn't make a decision at that time, we

792
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: joined the Globetrotters.

793
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 6: Uh.

794
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: That's where we got acceptance really because they realized that, hey,

795
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: women can play this game. The game has improved, and

796
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: so they became open to the idea. And it was

797
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: like it was magic after that, you know. So after

798
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: a week of training, they wind us up like it

799
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: was a pageant and my name was called, and it's

800
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: just a blessing, a dream come true. I'm from Kansas.

801
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: My mother's name is Dorothy. She had all of the

802
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: Yellow Big Road all the way there.

803
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 6: I love it all.

804
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: We went to the hours, we asked for what we

805
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: wanted and they gave it to us. Okay, so I

806
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: want to tell you because we have all of this,

807
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at all my research, I think that

808
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: if you're listening, there is so much. There's so much

809
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: to talk about there. I think I read this meme

810
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: once that said, you have several careers, you have several

811
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: reincardations of who you are. We've only touched on a few,

812
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: but we haven't gotten into the coaching career aspect of it.

813
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: And I don't want to go too deep, but I

814
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: know that it says here in nineteen ninety nine, you

815
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: returned to Kansas City and you were the assistant coach

816
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: of the women's basketball team, and then you were you

817
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: went on to coach on your own at the university.

818
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: Would you became, Oh, we already have the financial Winthrop University,

819
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: which you were at Winthrop Eagles women's basketball team. That

820
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: was the one and that was in twenty seventeen. So

821
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: you have had and I don't even think we've gotten

822
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: to the what the finish line is, because there's the

823
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: story is still being written. But you then have and

824
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: it's not unusual for people to go from playing ball

825
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: in that level and being a coach because you're one

826
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: of the first. You know the fundamentals of it all

827
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 2: and you've you've seen it all. What is the most

828
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: rewarding thing for you about coaching? Uh?

829
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: To share the knowledge of the game, to lift players up,

830
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: to help them with their confidence. Uh, there's so much

831
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: you can learn in the game that you can take

832
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: with you in life. But you got to learn teamwork,

833
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: You got you can learn leadership skills, you learn discipline,

834
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: you gain your confidence, you get a voice you learn

835
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: to fight, and then you learn to win, and then

836
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: you learn to lose. What happens when we lose, Well,

837
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: there's a system that you go through. When you lose,

838
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: you go back, you get the stats, you look at

839
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: where your shortfalls were, you work on them, you study

840
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: your opponent. Uh, you find ways to win. But it's

841
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: a systemic way that you can do it so that

842
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: you know if life, you know, gives you a flat tire,

843
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: you just don't freak out. Hey, you can relax. Hey,

844
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: you figure out what the problem is. You can go

845
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: back and stand up and and and that'sh yourself off

846
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: and know you're coming back again.

847
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: I think people who are in in organized sports in

848
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: the high school level, collegiate level, you guys are obviously

849
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: better leaders in a lot of ways. So it does

850
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: make sense to me to see someone such as yourself

851
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: coaching because you you do know how to lose. You

852
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: talk about losing as a process, and you go back

853
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: and figure out what went wrong so you can correct it.

854
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: That that is invaluable in life, like in every aspect

855
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: of life. Right, we sometimes won't I won't even do that.

856
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm pouting, I didn't win and the jump,

857
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: and I and I and I and I'm mad and

858
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm blaming everybody else and I'm not looking how I

859
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: could have immediately corrected the situation so I can win

860
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: in the next the next number a minute. We got

861
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: to learn that through a lot of falling down. I

862
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: wonder for you, when you think about it, is such

863
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: a by your such a wealth of knowledge, by the way,

864
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: but I wonder for you, Uh, what else is next?

865
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: Because you've been taught that everything is possible? So is

866
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: there more for you? Are you enjoying where you are

867
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: in life? Have you been able to be content? Because

868
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: the lesson of contentment is so hard to understand and

869
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: more importantly, to practice when you're very ambitious.

870
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: I am very ambitious.

871
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 6: I like the fight.

872
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: I like the challenge.

873
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: You know.

874
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: I want to go to battle every day, you know.

875
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: I want to read something, I want to learn something.

876
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: I want to help someone. Let's go what we're gonna

877
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: conquer today? And it just gives me life. I you know,

878
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: it's you know, I want to help people have that

879
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: type of energy. I mean, especially the way the world

880
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: is now, you never know what's going to go from

881
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: one minute to the next. You know, but you've got

882
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: to be You've got to have your routine down. You've

883
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: got to be ready for the challenges that you face

884
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: every day. You got to be focused. You have to

885
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: be crystal clear about what you want, what you want

886
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: to do, and you've got to be able to not

887
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: let the little obstacles it's gonna flare up, get in

888
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: your way. You know, just think of it as an

889
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: obstacle course. You know, hey, we got to jump over this,

890
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: We've got to crawl under that. We got a bob

891
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: and weave. But you just gotta think. When you gotta

892
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: think victory, you gotta think. I'm not gonna let anything

893
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: or anybody tell me what's impossible for me. You already

894
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: did it to me. I don't want to hear it.

895
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: I've overcome that, so you can't tell me now. So

896
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: it's really getting out there helping people. I have opportunity

897
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: now to work with the Harlem Glow Trotters to help

898
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: the young ladies there. They're more young ladies on the

899
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: team now than ever before. There's five. I want to

900
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: see that number grow. If that number grows, that means

901
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: that maybe one day there'll be a team.

902
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, right.

903
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and even for the male players. I mean

904
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: I've played with the guys. You know, I'm set on

905
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: the bus. We've had conversations. I know what it's like

906
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: to be out on the road, you know, just conversations

907
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: and and and people knowing where you are and understanding

908
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: where you are and being and giving you, you know,

909
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: little advice on how to make it easier for yourself. Uh,

910
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: it's invaluable. That's what I want to give. That's what

911
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: I want to share. Oh.

912
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: I love that, Linnette, and I think that you are

913
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: the person to do that. Is there anything that you

914
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: are working on? I think that I didn't get to

915
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: see that in my research. Is there anything that you'd

916
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: like to promote tell everybody to pay attention to, because

917
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: I'll do that as well. When I tell everyone, I

918
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: wrap up about how great this podcast is and how amazing.

919
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm working on a lot of things. One

920
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: being a special advisor of course to the Globetrotters, but

921
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: also IM working with a company called I own dot Me.

922
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: And what it is is a sort of like LifeLock.

923
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: Know how you you can protect your physical identity with

924
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: your credit cards, your social security cards, but this is

925
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: digital identity. I own me and it's a company that

926
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: helps you protect your digital identity.

927
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: And it's uh, how does that work? Like, does that

928
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: mean someone can't change when you say digital identity. They

929
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: can't take your social media handles, they can't data.

930
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so you know they might take you know,

931
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: you may take to try to take your brand and

932
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: market it somewhere else without your permission.

933
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

934
00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: And they're sort of like the police for them.

935
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: Okay, and.

936
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: You'll you'll be hearing about it in the future. But

937
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: it's a it's a of course, it's sure, of course

938
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: you are ahead. I'm on the front end.

939
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: Yes, we're all so late. You're like, I've been doing this,

940
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I've been doing it. I know

941
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: what I'm doing. I got it all right, Cool, I'm

942
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: not jealous. Just make sure you let a sister know

943
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: I be there. Lynette Wood. It has been I mean

944
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: really truly a pleasure and an honor and and I

945
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: like I said that we'd just thrown around too much.

946
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 2: But you are a true trailblazer. So thank you for

947
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: just sharing whatever knowledge you have to give to the

948
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: folks because we appreciate it.

949
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on your show. I have

950
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: great respect for you. I follow you. Thank you my

951
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: shee row. I like your stands. Fire.

952
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, every I'm ready. I'm ready to go to battle

953
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: every day, as are you.

954
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it.

955
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: So so Lynette has done it all. Did we talk

956
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: about the fact that she want to go medal. I

957
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: didn't say that she want to gold medal when she

958
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: was in the Olympics in the nineteen eighty and nineteen

959
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 2: eighty four Olympics. She's got the hardware because she said

960
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: she liked your trophies. Is there anything that she can do?

961
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: I think not.

962
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: I think not. But I also when I hear Lynette's story,

963
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: I also realize how important it is to have a

964
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 2: podcast like this, to honor our heroes, to honor our trailblazers,

965
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 2: to honor the many first that we know nothing about.

966
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure many of you hadn't heard of Lynette ordered,

967
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 2: but she deserves h praise and she did it so

968
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: effortless leep, effort lesslie. Let's get the word out, effort leslie.

969
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: And it probably comes with a lot of effort, but

970
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: she makes it looks easier, or she made it look easy,

971
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say, I hope you guys

972
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: learned something today. I'm just trying to figure out what

973
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: my next career move will be ten years from now,

974
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: because if I look at and Neette, I can do

975
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: whatever I want. I want to be a singer, so

976
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: I I don't know if that's possible because you need

977
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: to actually know how to sing. There are some dreams

978
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: that you just can't realize. Singing would be one of

979
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: them for me. Anyway, Thank you guys for listening to

980
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: me Jabberon, Welcome back to the podcast. It feels good

981
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 2: to be in rhythm right. We got another episode coming

982
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: at you'all next week. Continue to subscribe and download. I

983
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: appreciate you all for listening to Naked