Speaker 1: The following. He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys flowing out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. He's hanging with
Speaker 1: the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings.
Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross Tuesday Victory Tuesday. Since I wasn't here yesterday
Speaker 1: for Victory Monday, you're looking five at Tostito's championship plause
Speaker 1: outside Ford Center at the Star of Frisco, which none
Speaker 1: of us are there except for Chris. But it is
Speaker 1: seventy four degrees. It feels like seventy four. The high
Speaker 1: today is seventy seven. The low tonight is fifty seven.
Speaker 1: And man, did I miss a good show yesterday. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys for carrying on without me out toting the show. Kurt,
Speaker 1: great job hosting. Nate, great job on cutting me down
Speaker 1: and making fun of the size of my head. Jesse,
Speaker 1: thanks for being the voice of reason. Glad to be back.
Speaker 1: How you guys doing. I did not say anything about
Speaker 1: you and I was Jesse and Kurt, I just understand.
Speaker 1: Don't remind me that commercial, miss commercial with you know,
Speaker 1: they know all messages up when you say certain things.
Speaker 1: And all right, So so I've been I've been holding
Speaker 1: on this hthing, fellas, and I need and I've been
Speaker 1: waiting to get the gang altogether to address this. Okay,
Speaker 1: I go, here we go. And this has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with you, Shannon, You're you're okay on this one.
Speaker 1: Oh good, good good. This has every thing to do
Speaker 1: with Nathaniel Bartholow you Newton. Well, this dude has asolutely
Speaker 1: no respect for the group text. Get me zero respect
Speaker 1: for the group text. What did I do? Has no
Speaker 1: understanding of what is text or typed in the group text?
Speaker 1: Stays text and typed in the group text? What did
Speaker 1: I say? I didn't do anything? Yes? You did? Yes,
Speaker 1: you did do so Shannon, you guys did a show
Speaker 1: a week or so ago. You had the Shark on there.
Speaker 1: You also had Chris Sano on there. Okay, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And so me being the supporting teammate that I am,
Speaker 1: Yes you are. Yes, I try to listen in to
Speaker 1: when my guys are doing stuff, right, matten our tune.
Speaker 1: Then I had to put it on a DVR. You know,
Speaker 1: you guys do your shows. I can't catch it all
Speaker 1: the time, but I try to do my best. Curse
Speaker 1: put articles out, I make shore, I go read them,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, Chris, his kid is, you know, up for
Speaker 1: the pup Passing Kick Award for the ten year olds
Speaker 1: and he's only five. I go and support, you know,
Speaker 1: all that kind of good stuff. So I send a
Speaker 1: text to the group. I was getting gas. Sixty dollars
Speaker 1: worth of gas I was getting and the entire time
Speaker 1: it took me to get out of the car, pumped
Speaker 1: the gas sixty dollars worth get back in the car,
Speaker 1: Chris Arnold was still talking. So I text the group
Speaker 1: and said, you guys better never talk about me being
Speaker 1: long winded like I'm a mute in comparison to Chris Arnold.
Speaker 1: What do I get? Two minutes later a text from
Speaker 1: Chris Arnold saying, Nate just showed me what you said.
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I said this, Yez
Speaker 1: is slimming. Now Chris understands it. Chris knows create the
Speaker 1: first time anyone that ever told Chris that he talks
Speaker 1: way too much, Like y'all always tell me I talk
Speaker 1: way too much. But Nate, you don't show Chris the
Speaker 1: text that I text you in the group chat. If
Speaker 1: I wanted to text Chris Arnold, I would have text
Speaker 1: Chris Arnold. Chris don't have to you. You have to
Speaker 1: have a better understanding about you. I wouldn't have did
Speaker 1: it if he wouldn't have talked about you and potus
Speaker 1: your not Yeah, man, Jesse boy, I'll worry about just wait,
Speaker 1: what was that a low? Oh? They boys? Okay? So
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, if they're born boys and Chris Arnold understood,
Speaker 1: I was like I said, I wouldn't have done it
Speaker 1: if he wouldn't have said the man, I can't text
Speaker 1: Nate nothing no more. So yeah, I was waiting for
Speaker 1: the game to get back together to address that situation.
Speaker 1: So if you want some if you want some inside
Speaker 1: info that Nate is not supposed to tell you, just
Speaker 1: tell him that your boys with somebody, and Nate'll tell
Speaker 1: you everything about them that you because it's okay if
Speaker 1: you're boys. Right. But I miss you yesterday? No no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, Now I get some seventhy can I get
Speaker 1: some grace? He hope you hope you ope your wife?
Speaker 1: I go ahead I will tell you this though, Jesse.
Speaker 1: He Chris Arnold like he's taken over the show before.
Speaker 1: On Wednesday night, he was in rare for him. Last Wednesday,
Speaker 1: he taught us the entire second segment. Like I couldn't
Speaker 1: even interrupt him to like get us to get anybody
Speaker 1: else to say anything. The whole second segment he taught
Speaker 1: the whole was that like a twelve minute span, non
Speaker 1: sit and he was passionate. Man, he was going at it.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I I'm gonna let him go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I listened. I was like, dang, Nate snitched me out. Boy,
Speaker 1: don't you know prob with Nate, because I'm telling you
Speaker 1: right now you won't. He won't even get to the
Speaker 1: interrogation room. It's a coach. Yeah. I got his dog.
Speaker 1: He gave a location numbers. He get everything up, Jones
Speaker 1: about your beautiful dog. You got there, man, tell us
Speaker 1: about the dog. Right. Let's talk football now, guys, let's
Speaker 1: talk football. But I had to get that out o
Speaker 1: my chest. But that's a ball you got in your hand, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's my this's my boy. Bones. Bones is uh an
Speaker 1: eleven year old frenchie. I've had bones for eleven years.
Speaker 1: So this is my guy. Man old here, old man,
Speaker 1: now man, he's old. He just we'll just be kicking
Speaker 1: it and chilling. Man. This is like you said, he'll
Speaker 1: sit right here, won't bark, won't move, and just be
Speaker 1: Look Look at the face, man, lap dog. Look at
Speaker 1: that face. Baby, that's a cute puck. Thank you man? Bones?
Speaker 1: Does you how do y'all? Since I missed it yesterday?
Speaker 1: How do y'all feel? Give me your brief, your brief
Speaker 1: thoughts on? No, how do you feel you the one
Speaker 1: you last week? We are? How do you feel? You
Speaker 1: want to? Need to see a performance of a lifetime?
Speaker 1: Did that? Did that meet your expectations? That's what I
Speaker 1: needed to see? Now I need to see it again
Speaker 1: because look, nay, yes, really like But I told y'all
Speaker 1: last week, I'm okay with them winning. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if it's ugly, it doesn't matter if it's the home
Speaker 1: y'all hear bone snoring? Can y'all hear that? Okay? Good? Good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I actually can now, But I'm good with them winning. However,
Speaker 1: they need to win like you beat a you beat
Speaker 1: a really bad, pitiful team that has so many issues
Speaker 1: going on during the game, before the game, after the game.
Speaker 1: But you beat them like you should have beat them.
Speaker 1: You beat them like a drum. So yes, I would
Speaker 1: like to see. You know what, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: they do against Arizona this week. They can win ugly,
Speaker 1: they can beat them down. Just keep winning. I'm good
Speaker 1: with this. I am. I am okay with them winning. However,
Speaker 1: they need to win. I needed to see the offense click.
Speaker 1: They clicked, they took care of business. And believe me,
Speaker 1: I got it all the dms think everyone to hit
Speaker 1: me up on Sunday and said, is this what you
Speaker 1: needed to see? Yes, this is what I needed to see.
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm good. I'm good. However, they want
Speaker 1: to win, Just keep winning. He finally figured it out
Speaker 1: at the sixty weeks. He fined, where's Kurt? He gone gone?
Speaker 1: Can we can we get back to the studios so
Speaker 1: we can all be a tea man. I am so
Speaker 1: ready to get back in the studio. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't do well working from home. This is not my
Speaker 1: this is not my preferred method of working in communication.
Speaker 1: I don't thrive well in this environment. Tell me now
Speaker 1: you you are I ask you about the game but
Speaker 1: you weren't to the game this week, so I wasn't
Speaker 1: there because I sure wanted you to tell me how
Speaker 1: these guys was acting, man, because out of think Jesse,
Speaker 1: out of it cutting up, you know, knowing that we
Speaker 1: had a chance to win these A lot of guys
Speaker 1: say they didn't know there was they won these, But
Speaker 1: knowing that we had a chance to win these. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I hear guys always say, you know when
Speaker 1: they win something big, you know, well, we got bigger things, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: That's one thing I got to say about coach Johnson.
Speaker 1: He he didn't believe in that. He believed that if
Speaker 1: you want something big, you needed to celebrate it. You
Speaker 1: need to have fun, You need to feel it, you
Speaker 1: need to you need to let it in. Uh what's
Speaker 1: the word, get it to your soul and enjoy it.
Speaker 1: You know this. You know when I heard coach I
Speaker 1: at twelve o'clock. Now to the next morning, when we
Speaker 1: come back to the start, that's when we're getting ready
Speaker 1: for the cards. But till the end, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: this thing because we won. Me You, I don't get
Speaker 1: when people say that, man, because we won three super
Speaker 1: Bowls and we parted and we had fun on every
Speaker 1: one of them. The NFC Championship Game, the NFC. But
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Nate, let me let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. What was this the mentality after Super
Speaker 1: Bowl one? Right? Because? I mean because leading up to that,
Speaker 1: you guys really had nothing to celebrate. I guess so
Speaker 1: you got one to fifteen and then you come back
Speaker 1: and you win the NFC East or you know, did
Speaker 1: you guys win the NFC East the year your first
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we wanted that year.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, Jesse, it's this right here. Coach
Speaker 1: Johnson always believed that if you if you, if you
Speaker 1: prepare for the moment and you do everything right for
Speaker 1: the moment and that moment becomes a reality in your favor,
Speaker 1: you have to enjoy it and you want and let
Speaker 1: that be the positive hunger. Don't be like, yo, we
Speaker 1: gotta beat Fittis six to nothing in the NFC Championship Game.
Speaker 1: That motivates us. How about we won fifty six and
Speaker 1: nothing and we made a lot of Super Bowl but
Speaker 1: that really motivates us, so we know how to get
Speaker 1: back there. That you know, it's always it's always good
Speaker 1: to act like you've been there, because if you act
Speaker 1: like you've been there, then you won't get up and
Speaker 1: do This's not in those You want to get up
Speaker 1: and be eating and all that. But you ain't won now,
Speaker 1: NFC East, not this particular team. You enjoy that NFC
Speaker 1: East victory. You let your fans know that you are
Speaker 1: to be study East and you're doing what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: And when you get back, now, when when they have
Speaker 1: their first official media Now we're all about the components,
Speaker 1: everything about the competition. Don't walk through life and not enjoy,
Speaker 1: bro I'm telling you, don't go through life and not enjoy.
Speaker 1: On that note, Jesse, you and Nate tell me this, well,
Speaker 1: this game, all right, they did something they haven't done
Speaker 1: as a unit, at least this unit that they currently have,
Speaker 1: right with all these new players and new coaches. They
Speaker 1: went out and they took the East. Even even if
Speaker 1: even if the East wasn't wasn't bad this year, even
Speaker 1: if it was good, they still won eleven games so
Speaker 1: far they would have they would have won this division. Right,
Speaker 1: So they went and did what they set out to do. Now,
Speaker 1: if they go, like you said, enjoy it, but then
Speaker 1: get back to business and they go beat the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Does that tell you a little bit more about this
Speaker 1: team that like, okay, they're going and beating somebody else
Speaker 1: that's in the that's in the hunt for you know
Speaker 1: what home field advantage or whatever whatever's going on. Would
Speaker 1: that tell you more about this team? Or if they
Speaker 1: proven what they need to prove by winning the East,
Speaker 1: that's that's called maturity, man. That you know, that's called maturity.
Speaker 1: I understanding where you're at and being able to play
Speaker 1: up to the level of your your opponents. Man, it's
Speaker 1: just maturity from the up from from the coach staff.
Speaker 1: Because the way McCarthy does it from what I from
Speaker 1: what I see. For what he tells, he don't run
Speaker 1: no uh ship where people's tightening them out when he see, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? You know they dawn run. They kind of lose.
Speaker 1: They handle their business. They do what they have to do.
Speaker 1: They're they're the ultimate professionals and they do their thing.
Speaker 1: So if they if they come back to this week
Speaker 1: and beat the Cardinals, it's just showing that to me, Okay,
Speaker 1: just one more step and getting the where you need
Speaker 1: to go. See, because it's one thing I say this
Speaker 1: one thing to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, it ain't. It
Speaker 1: ain't this. It ain't that where it did a bigger picture.
Speaker 1: Then you lose this game. Is it really the bigger picture?
Speaker 1: Is it really the bigger picture? And I think also
Speaker 1: it's the it's the challenge of knowing you beat a
Speaker 1: good football team. Yes, I get it. I know it's
Speaker 1: hard to winning the National Football League. I get it.
Speaker 1: I understand it. I've been a part of it. But
Speaker 1: you know, you you knew what Washington was, you knew
Speaker 1: what Tyler Hannick was. You knew they didn't have all
Speaker 1: their guys and COVID and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And that takes nothing away from the victory because I
Speaker 1: enjoyed what they did to a team that was inferior
Speaker 1: to them. You beat the brakes of them. So I
Speaker 1: do enjoy that. But there is also something to be
Speaker 1: said when you're able to play a team that the
Speaker 1: league or the masses or the media or whoever you
Speaker 1: want to count says that they're a good football team
Speaker 1: and they have good notable players. Right, it ain't it
Speaker 1: ain't Taylor Henike, you know, it's Kylin Murray. It ain't
Speaker 1: you know, it ain't Joe Blow. No, it's Chandler Jones, right.
Speaker 1: And so when you're able to go out there and
Speaker 1: compete and win and beat the notable names and the
Speaker 1: teams that they you know, deem or whoever they want
Speaker 1: to call it, saying that there are quality teams and
Speaker 1: you get those quality wins throughout the year, that also
Speaker 1: adds another motivating factor of confidence to your football team
Speaker 1: because they saying, oh, yeah, you only beat the Washington
Speaker 1: football team. They didn't have their basketball year, Nada da
Speaker 1: da da whatever. But when you go out and you
Speaker 1: beat a team that for a large majority of this year,
Speaker 1: people thought that this team was a Super Bowl contending team,
Speaker 1: that this team was number one in the NC in
Speaker 1: the NFC for a long period of time. Now they're slumping,
Speaker 1: and make no mistake about it, they're they're looking to
Speaker 1: end their losing streak. While we're looking to continue hours,
Speaker 1: they're looking to end there. So they're gonna come out
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a homecoming for Colin Murray. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have forty tickets, right because he's a local kid
Speaker 1: from this area and he wants to come out there
Speaker 1: and perform in front of his friends and family, and
Speaker 1: there is something about a hometown kid coming back and
Speaker 1: performing any at and t stating where he's won state
Speaker 1: championships before. But I think the Cowboys going out and
Speaker 1: beating quote unquote a quality team gives them a ton
Speaker 1: of confidence heading into the playoffs to say, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we positioned ourselves to potentially get a number one seed.
Speaker 1: Some other things have to happen, but we rout of
Speaker 1: the team that was inferior to us and we beat
Speaker 1: a team of quality. Now let's go in here and
Speaker 1: really do what we gotta do come playoff time. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take our first break. When we come back, let's
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Speaker 1: Let's see where do we want to go with this. Kurt,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. Did you get everybody kicking?
Speaker 1: All the family members kicked off the Netflix? In the
Speaker 1: video games? I'm gonna have much luck. I don't know
Speaker 1: how long. All right, Well, we don't need you. If
Speaker 1: you get kicked off anyway, will be just fine without you.
Speaker 1: So show must go on. So we can do it
Speaker 1: without you. You can sure do without men. See that
Speaker 1: he wanted to blame it on me for talking about
Speaker 1: him yesterday. He talked good about me, Nate, he just
Speaker 1: talked good about me. I talked bad about Kurt and
Speaker 1: he still paid me a compliment. So that's Jesse's disciple.
Speaker 1: He's coming along. Well, what would you guys do? Well?
Speaker 1: What would you do with tyring the next two weeks?
Speaker 1: Would y'all rest him, play him, get him healthy? What
Speaker 1: would be your strategy? I would give him a series
Speaker 1: in this game, because Jones is a beast. If he's healthy,
Speaker 1: I just give him a series as two and get
Speaker 1: him out of there and uh take him over the
Speaker 1: Britt Daniels? Is that as I'm pronouncing that right? Jesse,
Speaker 1: Britt Brown, Britt Brown. Yeah, I would take him over
Speaker 1: to Britt after that, let break him, to break him
Speaker 1: off real from He better be fully healthy if he's
Speaker 1: getting in that game. Like you know, they waited, they
Speaker 1: let DeMarcus get healthy to let some of these other
Speaker 1: guys I need tying in the playoffs, not in week
Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen. So yeah, what would you do, Jess,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you mean playing for a
Speaker 1: series or two? If you're gonna play him, he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: If not, then leave him on the sideline and let
Speaker 1: them continue to get rushed up. Yeah, Chanda Jones is
Speaker 1: an absolute beast. I mean he has fifteen sixteen sacks
Speaker 1: already this season. He's one of those guys that kind
Speaker 1: of goes under the radars being a terrific pass rusher.
Speaker 1: But I think you got to play Tyrant Smith. I
Speaker 1: think if he's healthy, if he gets to go, not
Speaker 1: him saying I'm ready to go, but Brick Brown and
Speaker 1: Greg and Jim May would say he's ready to go.
Speaker 1: Then you play him. You let him get those reps,
Speaker 1: You let him get his kind of his feet back
Speaker 1: underneath them, because again, what you don't want is this
Speaker 1: offensive line trying to figure each other out once we
Speaker 1: get into the money games. Like because if they if
Speaker 1: they win this game this weekend, I doubt that they'll
Speaker 1: probably play a lot of their players long amount of
Speaker 1: time against who is it the Giant or whoever. At
Speaker 1: the end of the year, they probably would have sewn
Speaker 1: up every Philadelphia. They probably would have sewn up everything
Speaker 1: that they need to get to get done. Um, So
Speaker 1: you know, play Tiring, Let him get his feet wet,
Speaker 1: let him get his kind of continuity back, its confidence back,
Speaker 1: Let them go out there and really test it, because
Speaker 1: I need to know. I need to know can we
Speaker 1: count on him Kenny go? And also if I'm if
Speaker 1: I want to put you know, if I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: that out there to go, I want Tiring out there
Speaker 1: to go as well. And making sure that Channel Jones
Speaker 1: don't saw him in half because this game is important.
Speaker 1: This game matters if you're still trying to get yourself
Speaker 1: to that number one seed, you need to win against Arizona.
Speaker 1: And you know, and maybe I said it all, but
Speaker 1: that's what I meant. That's what I mean. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: said it all wrong, because the show say what my
Speaker 1: brother the best thing you ever said on the show.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you large hit anyway, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get A couple of things happened right there that
Speaker 1: made that the best thing you've ever said. What I want.
Speaker 1: You showed a little humility, you admitted you in the
Speaker 1: game timing, all the timing was. The delivery was great.
Speaker 1: That was just perfect good execution, Nate. Okay, you guys,
Speaker 1: I got my head up close anyway. Uh, as long
Speaker 1: as that in the game, because when lows a draw,
Speaker 1: if this thing get ugly for us that need to
Speaker 1: be out, all of the need to be out. This
Speaker 1: thing is rolling good for us. They all need to
Speaker 1: be out. You know, are you're putting tired? Are you
Speaker 1: putting tying in there? No? No, no, no, not that.
Speaker 1: But if you're one hundred percent yeah, But uh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you the way now. I would you would
Speaker 1: asked me this five or ten years ago, I'd be like, yo,
Speaker 1: he played the whole game and the next game, because
Speaker 1: that's that's the way the NFL was. This is a
Speaker 1: new NFL. And as much as I like continuity on
Speaker 1: the officive line, this is one office line. They just
Speaker 1: played this week is Connor Way. Next week is Connor McGovern.
Speaker 1: They always tyrone still, I mean still, then it's right
Speaker 1: they do they do it different. The only person that's
Speaker 1: consistent is the center in the right guard. That's the
Speaker 1: only people that's been consistent on this officsive line. Everybody else.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you think about the way
Speaker 1: that they've managed they've managed injuries this year. They manage
Speaker 1: Connor Williams with the holding like they've had some some
Speaker 1: luxuries this year by having such a big lead early
Speaker 1: and being able to rest guys. And man, they're gonna
Speaker 1: look like geniuses if they rolling to the playoffs and
Speaker 1: have a healthy side on offense defense, because I mean
Speaker 1: you saw what the defense did last you know, Sunday night,
Speaker 1: when they were fully healthy and you had everybody back
Speaker 1: in the game. They look unstoppable. Man, how smart are
Speaker 1: they gonna look if they roll into the playoffs and
Speaker 1: you have all starters on both sides of the ball
Speaker 1: and it was because of load management, like like what
Speaker 1: you were talking about, Nate get tiring back to a full,
Speaker 1: fully healthy Connor Williams. They got the bad tape of
Speaker 1: him off where he you know, he didn't have any
Speaker 1: holding penalties. You got everybody on both side. I mean
Speaker 1: there's something. I think there's something to be said about that.
Speaker 1: I think this team mismanaged one player this year when
Speaker 1: it comes to injuries, and and it's it's mind boggling
Speaker 1: to me because you look across the board and you
Speaker 1: see it. You see oh, they said, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's give it Dak an extra week, make sure tiring
Speaker 1: is double safe. And all these other guys have gotten
Speaker 1: the extended amount of time to get their proper rest,
Speaker 1: and they didn't do it for Zeke. I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about this before that it
Speaker 1: was labeled as a bone bruise and like I told
Speaker 1: you guys, I've never seen a guy have a bone
Speaker 1: bruise and need a knee breaks. So now they're talking
Speaker 1: about this ligament damage. And I just thought, man, when
Speaker 1: there was a moment in time about three or four
Speaker 1: weeks ago, you could have given Zeke an extended amount
Speaker 1: of time to rest, to give himself an opportunity to
Speaker 1: be at a healthier I'm not saying it gonna be
Speaker 1: and time is not going to be a hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: He may be one hundred percent of eighty percent at
Speaker 1: this point in time of the year. But no one's
Speaker 1: at one hundred percent right now at this juncture of
Speaker 1: the season. And I think if they were allowed Zeke
Speaker 1: to get a little bit more healthy, uh you, you
Speaker 1: would see a better Zeke for the playoffs. And I
Speaker 1: think that's if there's anything that's gonna kind of bow
Speaker 1: this team down is And yeah, Dick had a little
Speaker 1: bit of burst in the in the in the prior game,
Speaker 1: but again that's while we thought that defense was going
Speaker 1: to be a really good defense, it turned out that
Speaker 1: they're just not right now for whatever, and they're missing
Speaker 1: players or whatever this but I just wish they would
Speaker 1: have given Zeke that that moment in time where he
Speaker 1: could have set out a game or two and got
Speaker 1: that rest so that he was closer to being at
Speaker 1: full at whatever full struct he could be at this
Speaker 1: point in time of the season heading into the end
Speaker 1: of the year, early playoffs. You know, I how much
Speaker 1: of that was tru Liam Zeke. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: know the coach can say no, you ain't playing, which
Speaker 1: we all wish they would have said that, But I understand.
Speaker 1: I get Zeke fighting every tooth and nail. You know,
Speaker 1: can't it be any worse than what it is? He
Speaker 1: made not understand the long terms of his injury. But
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this can't be because if I
Speaker 1: was skillful, I was the head coach. I don't be like, no,
Speaker 1: you know you you're out. But these players had that
Speaker 1: type of pool. Do these players had that same of pool? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How do his teammates see that? Are they like, man, Zeke,
Speaker 1: wish you'd take a break, We need you down the road,
Speaker 1: or they like, man, this guy's a warrior. We're looking
Speaker 1: look look at what he's doing for us. Each man
Speaker 1: his own. Once a man make up his mind in
Speaker 1: that locker room, you're just said it, hey, man, best
Speaker 1: with the best playing man the best player. Because it's
Speaker 1: some players like, nah, I ain't going down that road.
Speaker 1: And then it's some players like, yeah, man, he's doing
Speaker 1: what he does. So you got to ask each individual
Speaker 1: player or groups groups of players how they feel about that.
Speaker 1: You know, because back in the day, we're the heerded
Speaker 1: he's a warrior's he's tough as nails, you know, in
Speaker 1: today's indefatible that man, is he crazy? It's you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm being honest. Now you know I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: you know, right that way with it that way in
Speaker 1: your generation, Jesse, where guys were more like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: guy's a warrior. Um. I mean, everybody's a warrior in
Speaker 1: that locker room, right, because we're all going through something.
Speaker 1: And the thing is as long as you aren't hurting us. Right.
Speaker 1: If if you're going out there and you're saying I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go, and you're
Speaker 1: hurting this thing, guys will be like, hey, bro w,
Speaker 1: don't you go ahead and sit on down? Because you
Speaker 1: keep going out there and you keep giving out that edge,
Speaker 1: you keep going out there and you can't you can't
Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to be doing and it's hurting us,
Speaker 1: then people will say something. But if you go out
Speaker 1: there and play, I mean I played with what people
Speaker 1: will consider the you know, the iron Man of the
Speaker 1: Cowboy history and Jason Witten right, I played when DeMarcus
Speaker 1: ware was took it taken off on a stretcher one
Speaker 1: week and had the game winning sack the next week.
Speaker 1: You know, So if guys can go and they are
Speaker 1: helping us and they're you know their their presence on
Speaker 1: the field is a positive one, then you're like hell,
Speaker 1: because we're all going through something. Everybody in that locker
Speaker 1: room going through something, an elbow or show the knee,
Speaker 1: an ankle of foot, a rib or whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. But if you're gonna be out there
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be a starter, right, a prominent player,
Speaker 1: well damn it, you'd better be doing your job to
Speaker 1: a positive degree or I'm gonna be like, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: going ahead and up and it's went out to you
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Speaker 1: by the way, I love Chris Arnold. I love when
Speaker 1: he's on the show on Wednesday nights. He does. He
Speaker 1: love to talk, but he's passionate and me and him
Speaker 1: were boys. So Nate, if you know anything and he
Speaker 1: dirt on him or anything, just let me know because
Speaker 1: me and him were boys. Okay, cool with that, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I will so for those of you that were listening
Speaker 1: and I earlier we were talking about Chris. I didn't
Speaker 1: want anybody that doesn't know, like all of our relationship
Speaker 1: with Chris to think we were because he talks so much.
Speaker 1: He just he just gets passionate, he gets going and
Speaker 1: you can't stop him. So we love when he had
Speaker 1: We all love Chris. Chris Crispin arounds. I shut up.
Speaker 1: Nate can't help but love Chris Arnold. Man, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what Jesse. Nate made sure he gave you some
Speaker 1: love on Wednesday night, Like he said your name. Didn't
Speaker 1: hear that ten times? And I was like, damn, damn, Nate,
Speaker 1: like give it a rest, like what Jesse hay and
Speaker 1: you by the mention or what what's going on? Just
Speaker 1: to hear that? Just older he all he heard as
Speaker 1: I sold it by that Elsa could do. I mean
Speaker 1: he got he got a lot of making up to do.
Speaker 1: He've been leaving me on the points since I got
Speaker 1: on this show. This is this is a true story.
Speaker 1: This is a story. Uh what you know? The one
Speaker 1: thing like I wanted. I could just see Jesse smiling
Speaker 1: as I watched the show the first It's the first
Speaker 1: game that I missed other than last year because of COVID,
Speaker 1: first game I missed in nine years. So I was
Speaker 1: sitting there watching it on the TV, which was kind
Speaker 1: of It was very weird, but it was nice to
Speaker 1: actually see what everybody else sees because it's a totally
Speaker 1: different perspective than than being at the game and being
Speaker 1: on the sideline. So it was it was. It was
Speaker 1: nice in some aspects, but I could just envision Jesse
Speaker 1: sitting there smiling, going, I've been telling them to start
Speaker 1: off in the hurry up offense since week three, like,
Speaker 1: and look what happens when they listen to me? They
Speaker 1: score half a hundred. So Jesse, how proud were you
Speaker 1: that Kellen Moore finally listened to the show and did
Speaker 1: what you've been asking him to do. Man, he's about
Speaker 1: fifteen weeks too late, but it's all good. As long
Speaker 1: as he's got it right. That's all we care about
Speaker 1: is is boy Wonder getting it starting out, you know,
Speaker 1: the the you can call the red ball or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it, getting the ball to Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper early on, getting Dak in a good rhythm. If
Speaker 1: more people listen to our show, literally, their life would
Speaker 1: be better. People need to tell a friend to tell
Speaker 1: a friend listen to hanging with the boys, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna crack jokes. We're gonna make fun, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna call good football. We're gonna enhance your life.
Speaker 1: We're gonna really let you know how to enhance your life.
Speaker 1: And you know, the latest product of that is Kelly
Speaker 1: Moore finally tuning into our show and hearing what we've
Speaker 1: been screaming for the last fifteen weeks. He got it.
Speaker 1: I'm happy finally go ahead. Well, that reminds me of that,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about Callen. He said yesterday in his
Speaker 1: meeting with the press that AT and T is fast.
Speaker 1: And you know what does he mean by that? Is
Speaker 1: it just be in front of the home crowd is
Speaker 1: or something the surface, the surface, fans, Baby, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about wind, I'm not worried about grass level.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about any of that. I'm on a fast,
Speaker 1: dry surface. I don't need no hit it. I don't
Speaker 1: even know heated benches. It's seventy two degrees in there, um,
Speaker 1: you know. And when you're able to play on that
Speaker 1: fast surface, man, uh, you know. That's why I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you, Like when you start looking at
Speaker 1: who we're playing in the playoffs, when you talk about
Speaker 1: the Rams and you talk about Temple and you talk about, uh,
Speaker 1: potentially the Cardinals or Green Bay. There's a part of me,
Speaker 1: not a not a small part of me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Shannon, small part of me, Shannon, small
Speaker 1: part of me wants to kind of go on the
Speaker 1: road a little bit because these teams with these high
Speaker 1: listen to me, but here, these teams with these high
Speaker 1: powered offense, they want no wind, they want no rain.
Speaker 1: They want that fast surface so that they could go
Speaker 1: out there and do what they do offensively and defensively.
Speaker 1: So sometimes going on the road get you know, maybe
Speaker 1: not to layer boat, but sometimes going on the road
Speaker 1: and those outside stadiums limits what they can do as well.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but I said it's a it's
Speaker 1: a very very small part of me because we do
Speaker 1: and our and our home feel advantage. It's an advantage
Speaker 1: for the opposing team too, because you are on this
Speaker 1: fast surface, indoor surface. Will a lot of teams like
Speaker 1: to be in January. I don't know, man, that that
Speaker 1: difference in our offense on between on the road and
Speaker 1: home is pretty big. I'm not sure that's true as well.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's that's a very true statement that I
Speaker 1: didn't take into consideration. That's a that's a true statement. Kurt.
Speaker 1: Would you start, Nate? Would you start? Would you start
Speaker 1: this week against the Cardinals the exact same way you
Speaker 1: did against Washington? Come out with a fast pace, no
Speaker 1: huddle or a quick huddle offense. Yeah, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to want to score them fast. I definitely want to
Speaker 1: make them want to mention. You know, uh, it's Hopkins planning.
Speaker 1: We know he's back. Yeah, he's dumb out in a word,
Speaker 1: I get green, I got a little older little stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go the same way. Let's get this thing rolled.
Speaker 1: That's that's nascarm to depth. You know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: I know that's a defensive term. You know, that's what
Speaker 1: they got, a defensive package. But that's you know, let's
Speaker 1: turn into the offense. That's just that's just the thing
Speaker 1: Nascar them, baby fast, you can go round and round
Speaker 1: you two, Jess, you know what, you know what I
Speaker 1: stand with that? Baby Let's go all gas, no brakes. Huh, yes, sir?
Speaker 1: So what is this defense? What they did Sunday was
Speaker 1: just I mean, it's ridiculous, like the plays they were making,
Speaker 1: you know, they canteen ageousness of it is. Do you
Speaker 1: think with this team, with everybody healthy, the way they
Speaker 1: played obviously against a depleted Washington team, but is that
Speaker 1: sustainable for the next two weeks and then into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: do you think they can play at that high of
Speaker 1: a level. Yes, yes, and yes, go ahead with Jesse.
Speaker 1: You would like to have the turnovers right like you
Speaker 1: would like to have two and three and four turnovers
Speaker 1: a game, right that part, and they've been doing it
Speaker 1: the last couple of games. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: turnover part is sustainable, but the pressure is abslutely absulutely
Speaker 1: something that they can do, and I think dan Quinn
Speaker 1: has figured it out. He was saying, listen, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep these guys fresh, I'm gonna keep these guys engaged.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ligne these guys up all over and I'm
Speaker 1: going to confuse defensive fronts, I mean offensive fronts all
Speaker 1: game long. And if you're able to do that with
Speaker 1: these healthy guys, I think that is going to help
Speaker 1: your chances of advancing the playoffs so much. But getting
Speaker 1: out to the quarterback, applying pressure, making a quarterback have
Speaker 1: to get it to the ball quicker than he wants to,
Speaker 1: destroying offensive linemen, that is one thousand percent something that
Speaker 1: this defense can continue to do throughout the rest of
Speaker 1: this season and into the playoffs because you got the players,
Speaker 1: You got the Jimmies and joes like Tank is Tank,
Speaker 1: Randy is, Randy, Micas Michael like. Those guys are who
Speaker 1: they are and they're going to be able to give
Speaker 1: you that every single time. And I think when you
Speaker 1: play with that level of aggression, you play with that
Speaker 1: level of spiciness and just really going to get it,
Speaker 1: then the turnovers will happen. But just being able to
Speaker 1: go all out. Am I'm a fan, Like I've turned
Speaker 1: the corner. I know that we had a fifty six point,
Speaker 1: you know, blowout. But to me, this team I am on,
Speaker 1: team defense is leading the Dallas Cowboys. That's where I
Speaker 1: stand right now, last of the day. This is a
Speaker 1: defensive team who is accompanied by the offense. This is
Speaker 1: it the other way around? Like it's a defense what
Speaker 1: they're plus one? Does it come into the playoff party?
Speaker 1: Does this team? You guys? I apologize if you asked
Speaker 1: this in the first segment because I was in and out,
Speaker 1: But I mean they've beaten four pretty big, you know,
Speaker 1: subpart teams last three weeks. Do they still need a
Speaker 1: confidence boost to go out and beat a good team
Speaker 1: that's desperate? I mean they are. Is that the next
Speaker 1: step they have to be a ten and five team
Speaker 1: that's desperate to you know, Arizona's desperate still win that division?
Speaker 1: Is that the next step they've got in their confidence building? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Answered that in the first segment. Okay, but you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, next question, next question winning? No, man,
Speaker 1: just keep winning, Just just keep winning. Because all those
Speaker 1: things just said about the defense, just keep winning. I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember we came from one in fifteen, three and thirteen,
Speaker 1: and everybody we played one didn't have the best records
Speaker 1: going down the stretch. But you just keep winning, you
Speaker 1: keep finding those ways, you keep playing those close games,
Speaker 1: those lugubly games. Eventually you're gonna win one of those
Speaker 1: games because you're only gonna get more confidence to get
Speaker 1: better and better. You have the players. For a long time,
Speaker 1: we did not have the players. Now defensively, offensively and
Speaker 1: special teams with the pun them, we have the team. Well,
Speaker 1: let me let's let's let's flip it. Do you think
Speaker 1: what the offense did Sunday is that sustainable? Because we
Speaker 1: haven't seen that in a while. Do you think this
Speaker 1: is the first step to get their confidence and swagger back?
Speaker 1: Can they keep doing this next two games and into
Speaker 1: the playoffs? I think, just right here, what do you
Speaker 1: need to be in the red zone percentage? Why I
Speaker 1: should be successful and whatever of that percentage is. You
Speaker 1: make sure you're that percentage because teams are gonna get better.
Speaker 1: But this is one thing we all know. We keep
Speaker 1: all it in the playoffs, teams still averaging anywhere between
Speaker 1: twenty four and thirty points. Now it comes down to
Speaker 1: your defense and can your offense run the ball effective
Speaker 1: enough to win that when when that time possession to
Speaker 1: keep your defense fresh, so they give you to get
Speaker 1: that turnover by pressure, are they can get you that
Speaker 1: key through that Keith three and out? That's that's what
Speaker 1: it's all about. The chess game becomes bigger and bigger
Speaker 1: the closer you get to the playoffs, and that's where
Speaker 1: you that's where your quarterback have to be in tune
Speaker 1: to what's happening and what's going on on the field
Speaker 1: on both sides, offensively and defense with it. That's what
Speaker 1: the big boys do. That's the big boy quarterbacks do.
Speaker 1: Jesse Froze now here. I didn't know if I didn't
Speaker 1: know if this was I don't know. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know now you now you now you trying to
Speaker 1: you know, not be Chris. Can I be one hundred
Speaker 1: percent honest? Can be one hundred percent honest? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: was listening to you talk and totally forgot the question
Speaker 1: I got in my heart of hearts. In my heart
Speaker 1: of hearts, I was just hoping that Shannon would jump
Speaker 1: back in and say something else in addition to what
Speaker 1: you said. Well, I totally forgot what the question was,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll give you. I'll give you a pass
Speaker 1: the last question before we get out of here, and
Speaker 1: Chris kills us. But so the bet that the offense
Speaker 1: and the defense have going on, right, I freaking love
Speaker 1: what that? What that? What I think that's doing to
Speaker 1: the team? And and and Jesse, you and Nate tell
Speaker 1: me what you guys think do. I think they go
Speaker 1: out there and it's top of mind, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play harder because I have this bet with the offense
Speaker 1: met with the defense. No. But what I think it
Speaker 1: does is it makes the game fun. And when you're
Speaker 1: having fun, you're more relaxed and you're more instinctual and
Speaker 1: you can enjoy the game and play. It brings another
Speaker 1: level to the game where it's just more enjoyable. And
Speaker 1: as a player, I believe it makes you. It makes
Speaker 1: you play better because there's not all this pressure on you.
Speaker 1: And I think they go out there if the offense
Speaker 1: scores a touchdown, the defense goes out there and goes
Speaker 1: it's at the you know, in the back of their mind,
Speaker 1: I need to create a turnover. I need to get
Speaker 1: a turnover. So it's always top of mind. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's like bulletin board material. Does it make you
Speaker 1: go out there and play harder? Does it you're an athlete,
Speaker 1: you're out there on Sunday, you're strapping it up. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, but I think it does. It does
Speaker 1: create this back and forth and it's contagious and gets
Speaker 1: everybody involved and just makes them have more fun and
Speaker 1: play a little bit loose. I guess what do you
Speaker 1: guys think about it? Yes, you go first. I want
Speaker 1: you to forget the question. No, I thought, I think
Speaker 1: shouting spot on. I think I think everything with Shannon
Speaker 1: just said it's spot on. You know, I've been doing
Speaker 1: the show with you guys going on my fourth year,
Speaker 1: and you know, every time the question comes up about
Speaker 1: what do you miss about football, it's that it's never
Speaker 1: the game day stuff. It's that it's it's the chess
Speaker 1: games being played in the locker room. It's you know,
Speaker 1: the tennis ball is shooting in the basket thing in
Speaker 1: the locker room. But that this is what makes football fun. Now,
Speaker 1: I will say, boy defensive, I wouldn't taking to you
Speaker 1: guys in Vegas with me to make any bets because
Speaker 1: that's a dumb bet. That's a dumb bet that you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get ball turnovers and the team gets
Speaker 1: offensive touchdowns. But I love it. It's fun happen exactly,
Speaker 1: it's fun. Um. And these guys keep it, you know,
Speaker 1: somewhere in their mind and when when a turnover happened,
Speaker 1: and it comes to the forefront of their mind. But
Speaker 1: it's fun. It makes football fun. It brings a team together,
Speaker 1: and like you said, Shannon, it just creates that energy
Speaker 1: on the field. Though you know, hey, let's go get
Speaker 1: a turnover. They just scored. Let's go get one, batfella,
Speaker 1: and and and you're doing it in the confines, of
Speaker 1: course of your system. You're not you're not breaking protocol
Speaker 1: to go out there and talk to me something that
Speaker 1: you know it's not responsible within the confines of the
Speaker 1: defense of the offense. But this is what makes a
Speaker 1: team fun when you have these type of things happening
Speaker 1: amongst the guys. You know, the thing that man is
Speaker 1: right here is the defense should be a head because
Speaker 1: they scoring touchdowns too, so they should get extra points
Speaker 1: for that, you know, sup, Shannon, I need for you
Speaker 1: to you know, drop that over the owned up. Say hey, man,
Speaker 1: y'all need to be getting y'all points because y'all scoring too,
Speaker 1: so that thing one look so bad. And if I
Speaker 1: had to pay off a bit, I have to limit
Speaker 1: that thing to the omni next to the start. I
Speaker 1: couldn't feel all that. I freaking love it, man, And
Speaker 1: as a fan watching the game, it gets you into
Speaker 1: it more too, because you're like, what's the defense gonna
Speaker 1: do or they gonna respond the offense? You know, I
Speaker 1: just think all the way around, like I gotta message
Speaker 1: to the fan. If there's someone out there listening to
Speaker 1: our show coming to the next game, make a sign,
Speaker 1: like make a sign and keep the numbers of what
Speaker 1: the offense has, what the defense has us and every
Speaker 1: time something happens in the game, you flip that over
Speaker 1: and I promise you you're making on a JumboTron. You
Speaker 1: get a player that probably want to sign it for you.
Speaker 1: So if there's anyone listening to our show, which everybody
Speaker 1: shouldn't listening to our show, make a sign, make a sign.
Speaker 1: You'll get on National TV, You'll get on the JumboTron.
Speaker 1: We'll get you on our show, and you might get
Speaker 1: a player to sign you're welcome there. You go, Well,
Speaker 1: we gotta go, BEFO, we gotta go before Chris kills us. Jesse,
Speaker 1: thanks for being in date, thanks for bringing it coming
Speaker 1: in off and on, your kids under control and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, get them off the Wi Fi from eleven
Speaker 1: thirty to twelve fifteen. Chris, thanks for keeping us all.
Speaker 1: Then spend some money. We will be tomorrow the People's
Speaker 1: show hanging. I gotta call Chris on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: I gotta call. This has been a production of Dallas
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