Speaker 1: The real Blouzewives. So between a Hulu Nightline special, Rolling Stone,
Speaker 1: and The Collider, there's an onslaught of articles that are
Speaker 1: crystallizing and combining the stories of alcohol abuse being highlighted
Speaker 1: on television and downfalls on real Housewives. And if you
Speaker 1: think about it, I think it's been reported that there
Speaker 1: are like one hundred and fifty to one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five housewives, so I personally think at least ten
Speaker 1: that have had a brush with the law, a dui,
Speaker 1: been arrested, blacked out, something that really was drastic. So
Speaker 1: allegedly at at least five to ten percent of housewives
Speaker 1: have relapsed or had some stressful experience culminating in the
Speaker 1: abuse of alcohol. Do we honestly believe that these ten
Speaker 1: to twenty women would have had this same heightened peak
Speaker 1: and crash with a not on reality television. I can
Speaker 1: personally tell you that I know of at least ten
Speaker 1: housewives that have taken anti depressants, anti anxiety something to
Speaker 1: take the edge off as a result of being on
Speaker 1: the show, because the pressure is so great, the pressure
Speaker 1: to look like you have money, the pressure to have
Speaker 1: a storyline, the pressure of fame, the pressure of battling
Speaker 1: your skeletons coming out of the closet, the pressure of
Speaker 1: other people constantly talking about you, Sleepless nights, trips that
Speaker 1: are like a pressure cooker designed for confide like so
Speaker 1: women can really get into it, and then recover reunions
Speaker 1: that people come out of and say that they felt
Speaker 1: like they went through a war. Women are dehydrated, exhausted,
Speaker 1: and need days to recover from these reunions where you
Speaker 1: rehash these manufactured conflicts that you would never have entered
Speaker 1: into were you not on the Housewives. The money is
Speaker 1: too tempting, the fame is too tempting. But at the end,
Speaker 1: there's a pot of gold for some, for the very
Speaker 1: few that fight their way to the top make it
Speaker 1: out alive. The rest are just casualties of the Real
Speaker 1: Housewives atmosphere. So when Andy is asked about the reality
Speaker 1: reckoning and responds with I'm just focusing on the joy,
Speaker 1: that's a bag of bullshit, because there's no other reason
Speaker 1: why Bravo and Shed would be putting out all these
Speaker 1: statements about implementing psychological professionals and measures and tests and
Speaker 1: alcohol controls, et cetera. And as Liam McSweeney said in Nightline,
Speaker 1: even bar is designed for profit to sell alcohol. Stop
Speaker 1: someone when they've exceeded a reasonable amount of alcohol consumption.
Speaker 1: But on the Housewives, which is not a legal workplace,
Speaker 1: excessive alcohol consumption by people that are known addicts in
Speaker 1: the environment is a positive. Everybody gets excited when the
Speaker 1: addict falls off the wagon, gets wasted, does something stupid
Speaker 1: and crazy, because in this upside down that's a positive.
Speaker 1: That's performing well at work. And now this two paste
Speaker 1: is out of the tube, the genie is out of
Speaker 1: the bottle, and we've opened Pandora's box. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: not sorry. So yeah, if biting the hand that fed us,
Speaker 1: that hand deserves to be bitten. In thinking about the
Speaker 1: Housewives and like Kyle and Mauricio's breakup, or Dorriad and
Speaker 1: PK and what's going on with them or all of this,
Speaker 1: I was talking to my therapist about in my adult career,
Speaker 1: I was raised in an environment where you have to
Speaker 1: mention it all. You don't really have a private life.
Speaker 1: Kyle cannot not talk about what's going on with her
Speaker 1: in Mauricio. She doesn't have that option. Dorie cannot talk
Speaker 1: about her relationship with PK the girl on the new show.
Speaker 1: I saw something about like she had to talk about
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. Now she's on a reality show, she cannot
Speaker 1: not talk about her relationship with her guy or anyone
Speaker 1: like literally, Nini, who you're dating, it's what they've signed
Speaker 1: up for. And Nini's not even on reality TV anymore.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking. I was talking to my therapists
Speaker 1: and she said, you are trained in an environment where
Speaker 1: you have to share your entire private life, and you
Speaker 1: don't live in that environment anymore. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: when I talk about deprogramming from that and how that
Speaker 1: desensitizes you from normalization, how you think things are normal
Speaker 1: that aren't, and it's the upside down. How something happens
Speaker 1: and you just know that it would be great for
Speaker 1: the cameras. Where are the cameras, like, and you want
Speaker 1: to capture it or save it for the cameras. Or
Speaker 1: someone else does something that you know they did privately,
Speaker 1: and you really feel that it's unfair that they're not
Speaker 1: bringing it into the show. Because you're being forced to
Speaker 1: bring in whatever you're doing into the show. The producers
Speaker 1: might say, you have to talk about this thing that happened,
Speaker 1: and Jane is sleeping with her you know, best friend's husband,
Speaker 1: and you know about it, and you're being held to
Speaker 1: a standard that they're not because maybe they're better at
Speaker 1: sleuthing or and it all comes to the surface. And
Speaker 1: I left that environment and in no area of my life,
Speaker 1: whether it's my daughter or my relationship, or my health
Speaker 1: or my aging or anything, I don't owe anyone anything.
Speaker 1: I don't have to tell anyone anything about my life.
Speaker 1: And I think we live in this world, even on
Speaker 1: social media where like people have followers. They may not
Speaker 1: be famous, but they are speaking to an audience. We
Speaker 1: feel like we have to, you know, tell people about
Speaker 1: our lives. Where's Paul or when does Brittan see her dad?
Speaker 1: You know, like, what are they think I'm gonna post
Speaker 1: Brinn and her dad on my social media, Like it's
Speaker 1: my responsibility to let them know what our custody schedule is,
Speaker 1: how much time is how much time does Brin spend
Speaker 1: with her dad? You're out your fucking mind. When's last
Speaker 1: time you fucked your husband? Like you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: come in my social media and say something like that
Speaker 1: to me, I'll do you just blocked, like you said,
Speaker 1: It's like, who the fuck do people think they actually are?
Speaker 1: Like they're gonna come into my social media and like
Speaker 1: say that to me. Someone yesterday was like, I'm distracted
Speaker 1: because of the piece of food on your mouth. I
Speaker 1: had a tiny piece of seaweed, like tiny. I didn't
Speaker 1: even see it. Fuck you. I can have whatever I
Speaker 1: want in my mouth. I can grub chocolate all over
Speaker 1: my face and post a video in my own house
Speaker 1: because I'm a very rare breed of people who post
Speaker 1: on social media what I want to post. I'm making
Speaker 1: an ice cream cake in my kitchen and pajamas, haven't
Speaker 1: washed my hair, and I've been in bed for three days,
Speaker 1: and I have a piece of ice cream or a
Speaker 1: sprinkle on my nose. It's my own fucking prerogative. And
Speaker 1: it's my own body, my own ice cream, my own sprinkle,
Speaker 1: my own post, my own choice. Why don't you boast
Speaker 1: your daughter more on here? What? Like everybody feels entitled
Speaker 1: to everybody else's information. Someone's on television, now this was
Speaker 1: to tell you everything about themselves. Now, when I put
Speaker 1: myself in my ex on a reality show about our relationship,
Speaker 1: you bit damn fucking right. You want to know because
Speaker 1: I dragged you in. I brought you in. I brought
Speaker 1: you to a fairytale wedding. I thought told you everything was,
Speaker 1: you know, perfect. Then it started to unravel, and I
Speaker 1: felt a responsibility to tell you everything was imperfect. I
Speaker 1: didn't even have to do that. I felt some legal
Speaker 1: obligation because I brought you in that I had to
Speaker 1: bring you out. You know, like j Rod are perfect,
Speaker 1: they're perfect. They're perfect, they're perfect. Then they break up
Speaker 1: and they want privacy, and it feels like you brought
Speaker 1: us in, so now you got to take us out. Megan.
Speaker 1: I always bring up Megan Fox because every day they
Speaker 1: were gushing over their love and they were sharing butd
Speaker 1: and they were making out and it was they were
Speaker 1: one person. One day, something happened with infidelity or something happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're together anymore. They went dark.
Speaker 1: They may not even be celebrities anymore. I mean they
Speaker 1: just went into a cave. Something went on with the
Speaker 1: two of them. They went totally dark. And but you know,
Speaker 1: even having a publicist, well you know, and mine's great, like, well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to say something. I got like ten
Speaker 1: phone calls today. Okay, so what I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about brit, I don't want to talk about my
Speaker 1: custody schedule. I don't have to say anything, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, things go on and you can
Speaker 1: just choose what version of public or private you want
Speaker 1: to be. You don't have to talk about anything, to
Speaker 1: talk about the food on your mouth. You can be
Speaker 1: a private person, even if your public or a social
Speaker 1: media person, or even in your own neighborhood and your
Speaker 1: own cul to sec at your own country club. It's
Speaker 1: very empowering to just like not talk about what you
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about, and have whatever private life
Speaker 1: you want to have, and do what you want to
Speaker 1: do and don't. It's only when you get really hypocritical
Speaker 1: that people get bothered, Like you're asking someone else to
Speaker 1: share their information, or you told everyone it was perfect,
Speaker 1: or you pretended you were perfect. You pretended you were perfect,
Speaker 1: or you pretended you were so kind and so nice
Speaker 1: and so loving and wonderful. Then if you're not kind
Speaker 1: and loving and wonderful, they're gonna fucking come after you.
Speaker 1: It's just interesting what people's expectations are of you, what
Speaker 1: entitlement they have to you, everybody is now public property
Speaker 1: because they're posting about themselves. So where's the line. Another
Speaker 1: interesting thing about becoming desensitized to what's normal. I never
Speaker 1: liked having a crew in my house, And now what
Speaker 1: happens is they set up tape and everything in your house,
Speaker 1: like to stay for part of the season, sometimes because
Speaker 1: they know they're gonna keep shooting or they're gonna be
Speaker 1: in one room a lot, so they just keep the
Speaker 1: set up there. And what happens when they're shooting in
Speaker 1: your house is an entire couple of trucks come and
Speaker 1: the leanst it could ever be if you're a psychopath
Speaker 1: and like you're having like a like a China party
Speaker 1: of crystal and you wanted no extra footprints. The smallest
Speaker 1: they could ever be would be a producer, a sound person,
Speaker 1: two camera people, and like probably like five people. But
Speaker 1: like on a real normal shoot, there could be twelve people,
Speaker 1: like in and out of your house or in your driveway,
Speaker 1: or things get scratched. People are like laying down on
Speaker 1: floors to try to watch on the small screen, like
Speaker 1: inside what they call video village. And I never liked
Speaker 1: it in the beginning. I tolerated it more but in
Speaker 1: the beginning it wasn't as big of an ordeal, Like
Speaker 1: there weren't budgets like there are now. So that I
Speaker 1: mean it's got Beverly Hills. It has to be shot
Speaker 1: like a Coca Cola commercial. Now now you see those
Speaker 1: interviews and they're usually usually done in another studio in
Speaker 1: New York. They are probably on Beverly Hills. They set
Speaker 1: up a room or a green screen in a room
Speaker 1: and a backdrop and you just like go and your
Speaker 1: makeup and there, but like it's a lot in your house.
Speaker 1: And recently I did something on Nightline and there were
Speaker 1: literally two one to two camera people, one sound person
Speaker 1: and two producers on my property. I was like, I
Speaker 1: had hives. They did nothing wrong, they were invited to
Speaker 1: be here. I don't like someone coming into my space
Speaker 1: and I feel totally violated and invaded one of camera
Speaker 1: crew's at my house even though they're here because I
Speaker 1: asked them to be. And it's because I have PTSD
Speaker 1: from housewives for so long, Like my daughter's home and
Speaker 1: like she's growing up in a world, and it was
Speaker 1: so infrequently it maybe happened her whole life. Two three
Speaker 1: times where she walks into the house and there's a
Speaker 1: camera crew everywhere. Like I felt violated for her, Like
Speaker 1: she's trying to walk in and there are people everywhere
Speaker 1: that she doesn't know. She has to do like a
Speaker 1: nice fake smile and be polite, and like everyone's everywhere
Speaker 1: and the dogs are shaking and nervous because it's a
Speaker 1: whole thing, and like I didn't like the way it feel.
Speaker 1: Made me feel bad. It really really did made me
Speaker 1: feel bad. It's just another one of those things you
Speaker 1: guys wouldn't know about shooting a show like The Housewives,
Speaker 1: that you can have twelve people inside your house two
Speaker 1: to three times a week and they're lovely people and
Speaker 1: they're nice, or you were just like not, you just
Speaker 1: had bad news, you're in a bad mood, someone just died,
Speaker 1: you have your period, you had a bad business call,
Speaker 1: and like you've got to be nice to everybody because
Speaker 1: they're in your home and like you know, and and
Speaker 1: they feel bad too. They don't want to intrude any
Speaker 1: more than you want them to intrude. They feel like
Speaker 1: they have to creep around. It's the worst for them.
Speaker 1: It's just a very strange dynamic. And I don't miss that.
Speaker 1: Another thing about housewives is the difference in the relationships
Speaker 1: you'll have with housewives off the show. There's nothing on
Speaker 1: the table. There's no competition, there's nothing charge. There's no
Speaker 1: one who's got andy'sier more than you or the other.
Speaker 1: There's no like avoiding talking about secret topics that only
Speaker 1: people that are on a show can know. There's no
Speaker 1: like what talk you know. You can't talk about the
Speaker 1: money you got or the opportunities you got, or where
Speaker 1: you went or what was sent to you for free,
Speaker 1: because everybody's always like grabbing and competing, and people can
Speaker 1: pretend on different casts. It can be Salidlake, it can
Speaker 1: be Beverly Hills, it can be wherever. And I know
Speaker 1: people on all those shows, and they all will talk
Speaker 1: about what they got with someone else didn't get there
Speaker 1: in the middle. They got to sit next to Andy.
Speaker 1: The others didn't get invited to go on the trip
Speaker 1: to go to another country, only me. Like every housewife
Speaker 1: is the same, every and they all just really are
Speaker 1: in this other constant competition. Even if it's not overt,
Speaker 1: it's subtle. There's something very subtle about it, and it
Speaker 1: goes on with everyone everywhere, and it's all consuming if
Speaker 1: you go out to dinner with multiple people from the
Speaker 1: housewives sphere or the reality TV like that sphere, it's
Speaker 1: eighty percent of what's talked about. It's just too tempting,
Speaker 1: and everybody who's talking obviously the other person. It happened
Speaker 1: at our big dinner in LA There was a housewife
Speaker 1: there and she was talking about plot lines going on,
Speaker 1: and Jenny Garth was sitting there and had no idea
Speaker 1: what she was talking about. I didn't know what she
Speaker 1: was talking about, but she was in the bubble, so
Speaker 1: she thought that we all knew what she was talking about.
Speaker 1: No one knew what she was talking about. Literally, no
Speaker 1: one knew what she was talking about. And she was
Speaker 1: going on for a while like a housewife way of
Speaker 1: like no, and it's ridiculous because I did that, and
Speaker 1: they did that, and that's what's going to happen. And
Speaker 1: I said this, and I was just like, you were
Speaker 1: talking another language. It's a world unto itself. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's strange that everyone in that environment cult like environment
Speaker 1: thinks that everyone else knows what's going on with them.