1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, there's Chuck, 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: there's Josh. This is short stuff with an exclamation point. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: I thought this was super interesting. I feel like we've 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: talked about this before. Do you remember on our our 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: little one minute explanation videos that have been scrubbed? I 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: guess from the internet because I don't know where those 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: things are. I don't know if I remember those. Yeah, 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: we'd be like we'd explained something to one another in 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: one minute too soon. Stand up videos, Yeah, I sort 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: of do. We've done so many dumb videos over the years. 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: I think the only thing that was worth anything was 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: don't be dumb, You're sweet. But also Internet Roundup was 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: pretty great, and again this day in history was wonderful. Wonderful. Anyway, 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: I think we talked about this, but it is super 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: interesting and I love it. Yeah. I think it's interesting 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of ten drils. We're talking about 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: the exclamation point, and there are just lots of weird 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: and interesting facts about this. Uh. No one knows where 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: it came from exactly. It was introduced in English as 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: far back as the fourteenth century, where it's called the 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: point of admiration, that's pretty sweet. I like that. And 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: the theory of what it how it came about was 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: that it was used for the Latin exclamation of joy, 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: which was capital I, capital oh I oh and I 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: above that Oh looks like the exclamation point. Yeah. Like 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: they think that somebody was using that and started just 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: I guess saving space, I don't know, but instead of 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: putting I than oh as I above oh and yeah, 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: that looks a lot like an exclamation point. Yeah. They 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: also think the question mark came from that to q 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: o quo to question somebody, that they just put the 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: que above the oh, and that's where that came from. 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty good explanation if you ask me. Yeah. 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: And so if you want to talk about like the 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: actual rules of grammar, because it's different than how we 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: use it today in some ways, you can also still 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: use it this way. But is is obviously an exclamation 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: to exclaim something in a sentence or an interjection, right, So, 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: like if you're like, um, I stubbed my toe, that 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: would be an appropriate place to use an exclamation point 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: without people making fun of you or saying like, um, 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: there you go. If you say that without an exclamation point, 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: you just look kind of like a jerk, a cowboy 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: who's dead inside, right, exactly. So people kind of long 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: understood like these are the two instances that you could 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: use an exclamation point, and that was that, Um, everyone 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: just knew, like you just don't use it unless you are, say, 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: like bad at writing. Like if you come across a 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: book written in like the twentieth century and there's a 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: lot of exclamation points, that book was roundly laughed at. 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Because one thing that you will find if you start 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: to dig into the history of exclamation points is we 53 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: used to use them way less than you see today. 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: And they were used in the nineteenth tree. I think 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: yellow muckraker journalists used them a lot to kind of 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: get people on the edge of their seat or whatever. Um, 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of a poke. It's like a it's an 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: emotional poke, and so it can get kind of worn 59 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: out very quickly. And it was so people used them sparingly, um, 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: starting around the twentieth century. Yeah, and here's another super 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: cool little fact. I'm an old typewriter in my room 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: and I've never noticed, but there is not an exclamation point, 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: because up until about nineteen seventy they didn't have. It 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: didn't have its own key as a as a punctuation mark. 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: You had to retrofit it. Yeah, I didn't know how 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: to make one, um, and this is pretty interesting in it. Yeah. 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: So what you do is you type a period, step one, 68 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: backspace two, and then you type an apostrophe on top 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: of it, and that would be the third and final step. Yeah. 70 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: Not bad. It's a good little solve. But your your 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: exclamation point looks a little like lazy or crooked. Yeah, agreed, 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, I guess it gets the point across. I mean, 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: you could you wanted to try and get tricky, you 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: could roll the thing down a little bit and try 75 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: and type an L. I suppose, sure, But that's you're 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: really gambling there. Yeah, but think about the trouble that 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: people went to type an exclamation point back then, Like 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: you really needed to mean it, that's true, you know, 79 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: like wanted exactly so um back in the day. Apparently 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: they didn't call them exclamation points as recently as the fifties, Chuck, 81 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: They called them bangs. And that's a longstanding tradition. I 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: think in the nineteenth century, um printers like where they 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: actually spelled out like each letter of every word in 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: a newspaper. They called them bangs back then. Pretty cool, 85 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: It is pretty cool. You want to take a break, Yeah, 86 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: we'll take a break and talk about how things have changed. 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Exclamation as sk should Okay, Chuck, we're back. It's kind 88 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: of funny if you listen to this episode and just 89 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: imagine an exclamation point at the end of every one 90 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: of our sentences. I'll bet it be a little more 91 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: enjoyable than normal. Yeah, I mean, surely we'll call it 92 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: something exclamation point and use an exclamation point. I don't know. 93 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. We could also zig instead of zagging, 94 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: go for the subtle joke. So, if you are aware 95 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: of the world today in the West at least, um, 96 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: you are aware that exclamation points are everywhere. They're dripping 97 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: from the ceilings, the walls, They're in your um, your cereal. 98 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: Everywhere there's exclamation points. And this is a fairly new thing. 99 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: And for a little while, especially when it really started 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: to take hold and say, like the odds the two 101 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: thousand odds, people made fun of these. I remember distinctly 102 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: writing a blog post saying like this is ruining the 103 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: war old basically, you're a I was um. Now, and 104 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: I warned against this in my blog post. Now you 105 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: can't not use an exclamation point or else you seem 106 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: like you're being mean. That was the ultimate problem that 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: I foresaw way back in the day. Yeah, so that 108 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: that is what has changed. Everything is ecommunication. Uh. And 109 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: there's a linguist named Gretchen McCullough who really, very sustinctly 110 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: ties a bow on exactly what this is, and that 111 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: is this it isn't It is a sincerity marker, not 112 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: an intensity marker. Now, yeah, which makes a tremendous amount 113 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, I mean it can be both. You 114 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: can still obviously say get out of my way exclamation point. 115 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: But if you're communicating with someone via text via email 116 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: and you say, you know, thanks a lot for helping, 117 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: if you'd say thanks a lot for helping with just 118 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: a period, it comes across as not too friendly. It 119 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: just does. Now, it does. And it's sad because there's 120 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: a very cool way of putting it that's not excited 121 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: or anything like that. And if you I feel like 122 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: we've also gotten a lot more insecure. At the same 123 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: time we started to use electronic communication, and so that 124 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: those two have kind of cohabitated or coexisted or co evolved, 125 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: and we now require that exclamation point to say to 126 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: say I mean this, like I'm being serious. Yeah, which 127 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: because when we communicate electronically, email, chat, text, what have you, um, 128 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: we're missing like all of the verbal, the audio, and 129 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: the visual cues that come through when you're talking to 130 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: somebody or you can hear someone talking or see them talking. 131 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: So we have to kind of adorn our communication now 132 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: with these other cues to let people know like I'm 133 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: not being sarcastic, which makes people who use exclamation points sarcastically. 134 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: They are basically undermining the very fabric of the new 135 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: society that we're building, Like we're holding on by our 136 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: fingernails on this new system, like please don't pull the 137 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: rug out from unders, you know, like give it another 138 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: fifty years maybe before you really start doing that. But 139 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: it is an interesting thing with the sarcasm or genuine quality, 140 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: and that's the differentiator. Like if someone gives you a 141 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: lot of help, you could say thank you so much 142 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: exclamation point. If someone doesn't really help you that much, 143 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: you could also say thank you so much, and like 144 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: you can hear my voice and clearly know what's going on. 145 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: But in an email or a text, that period is 146 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: a signifier. I think it's a message. Yeah, it is. 147 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: It is so exactly how you take it, I think 148 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: largely depends on the type of person you are. But 149 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: I think what Gretchen mccullus said was, it's a it's 150 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: a um sincerity mark, sincerity marker, beautiful over an intensity marker. 151 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is that they have found through 152 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: research that women use them more than men. Uh, if 153 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: you're communicating online to show friendliness. And they've also found 154 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: that young women and people of color, young people of 155 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: color especially are linguistic innovators. They are often vilified in 156 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: the early processes. Uh. And one thing they mentioned in 157 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: this House Stuff Works articles is like Valley Girl speech, 158 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: where as people say like all the time. Now some 159 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: people pointed out and make fun of it, and I 160 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: guarantee of those people use it all the time too. 161 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: But uh, that stuff was really derided in the eighties, 162 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: but now it's kind of widespread in a lot of ways. Yeah. 163 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: I remember, I think it was it was his Moon Unit, 164 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: Frank Zappa's daughter. Okay, remember she had that song Valley 165 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: Girl that hit making fun of valley girls, and like 166 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: the whole world was making fun of value girls and 167 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: now everyone talks like a valley girl to a certain degree, 168 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: that is true, I think. So. The idea behind this, 169 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: according to linguists UM, is that starting about in the 170 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: two thousand odds again two thousand five, six seven, and 171 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: around the time when texting really became a big thing 172 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: in America, UM, younger UH women started using exclamation points 173 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot, and it just became a an innovation that 174 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: spilled over into the rest of culture. Yeah. And there 175 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: are a couple of other theories that it It says 176 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: a lot in a short amount of time, and people 177 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: are communicating so quickly these days and shorter bursts, that 178 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: it kind of plays a valuable role, which it really 179 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: it does because if you if you add an exclamation point, 180 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: it keeps you from having to say like and I 181 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it, Are I really meant it? Or I 182 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: was very surprised. Yeah, it says it all right there, 183 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Um. The other interesting thing too, is 184 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: that they've done UH studies and they have shown that 185 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: if you use exclamation points in the business setting, that 186 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: it is more likely that you're not a supervisor or 187 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: hire or perceived as such. Right, and that is true. Man, 188 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: when I think about like our bosses think there's a 189 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of exclamation points. That's for the kids. Yeah, nary 190 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: an exclamation point among them. There is one person that 191 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: I won't name on the air in our company that 192 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: we exchange emails with that does the like two or 193 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: three exclamation points. Oh, I have a notice, I'll have 194 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: to pay attention. Don't tell me. Okay, okay, I'm gonna 195 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: see if I can figure it out. I'll email you 196 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: in the next few days about it. I always draw 197 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: the line with one, and I tried to use them 198 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: as very much as sincerity markers to display that, like 199 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they're genuine about something or sincere about something 200 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: anything I don't do too. You don't use them much 201 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: at all. I've noticed I use them, but I will. 202 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: I have very frequently gone back and read an email 203 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: for I sent it and removed an exclamation point, replaced 204 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: it with the period. Not because I was coming on 205 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: I didn't mind to like toned down my sincerity or 206 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: anything like that, but because I don't want to over 207 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: use them so that it does mean something or that 208 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: does come through clearly when I do use them, right, uh, 209 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: And tying into this the other kind of interesting thing 210 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: how these um sort of it's not really grammar, but 211 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: how these things evolve over the years. Is the all 212 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: caps thing now means like you're yelling at somebody. And 213 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: it's always funny to see in some sort of thread 214 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: or forum where there maybe people of a certain age 215 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: accidentally get that caps lot going right, and it just 216 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: is like this angry old person it's just yelling at everybody. 217 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: That's right, it is. It's funny that they don't mean that, 218 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: they just didn't know how to turn it off. Yes, 219 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: And if you have all caps and multiple explanations, you're 220 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: either super excited are really ticked off. Yeah. Um, so, Chuck, 221 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: I have to ask you something because I don't use 222 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: exclamation points. From an outsider perspective, does it seem like 223 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: I'm being tepid or cold or a jerk or mean? No, 224 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: I mean you and I communicate and as short a 225 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: hand as possible at this point. Yeah. Yeah, but like 226 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: you're you're see seed on just about every email at 227 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: work to other people. Yeah, so to other people, doesn't 228 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: how does it look? I think managerial and refined. Oh, 229 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I'm going for. I have a computer 230 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: monocle that I wear when I send emails so that 231 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: it comes through. That's what I'm trying to get across. Yeah, 232 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: you're doing fine, don't worry. Thanks, managerial, in, serviceable and 233 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: workman like. Oh you got anything else? I got nothing else? 234 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: I don't either, So that means that short stuff is away. 235 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Stuff you should know is a production of iHeart Radios 236 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: How Stuff Works. For more podcasts for my heart Radio, 237 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 238 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.