1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. 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Pittsburgh could have lost if not 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: for an incredible field goal. And Mark Sanchez is joining 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: us listen. They didn't run the ball of that effectively. 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Aaron took a couple of brutal sacks. That one in 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: the fourth was What did you see though? I mean, 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: obviously they won, What did you see as a forty 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: one year old quarterback that's going to need certain things? 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: What have you seen so far as you prepped for 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: that game that you liked? 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: Well? 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 5: I was impressed just watching him and the bounce he 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 5: had in a step, the accuracy he played with. I mean, 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 5: he looked like he picked up from last season and 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: you know, didn't take a break at all. 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's week one. 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's because of the motivation playing 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 5: against the Jets, but either way, I thought she had 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 5: that team rocked in on offense. I think conversely on defense, 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 5: that's where I was a little surprised. You know, the 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 5: Jets ran the heck out of the ball on him 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 5: and they found some creases. So I could expect Seattle 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 5: to try and do some of that this week with 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: their two headed monster in the backfield and Kenneth Walker 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: and Zach Charboney. But that was that was more of 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 5: a concern to me than anything on offense. You know, 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 5: the Sauce Gardner matchup with DK Metcalf, I thought Sauce 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 5: got the better of him, and I think DJ will 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 5: be pretty fired up this week to go out and 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 5: prove it, and we'll see if those guys get another 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 5: crack at each other. 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: Because that was a good matchup. 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Mark I thought, not only did Justin Fields play well, 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: I was the best I've ever seen him play. I 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: thought he saw the field. I statistically he didn't have 48 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: an off target throw. Explain to me how I can 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: watch justin fields for years and then he goes against 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: Tomlins Steelers and he is almost flawless. He was fantastic. 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Explain it to me. 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: It was a little shocking to me. But if you notice, 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: did you notice he was wearing two gloves? 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: Oh? I didn't. 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: I think it was a weather thing. 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 5: I think there was a little weather pregame, a little 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 5: thunderstorm or shower or something. 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: But he wears these two gloves, and all I can. 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 5: Think of, you know, like Peyton Man more than two 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 5: gloves or at least a glove on his throwing hand 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 5: towards the end of his career to help after his 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 5: next surgery with like the sensation and his finger so 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: he could like grip the ball right to finish throws. Well, 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 5: I'm thinking David Carr, I'm thinking Teddy Bridgewater. And then 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 5: I'm thinking remember in Forrest Gump when he has those 66 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: magic shoes and then he just takes off running and 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 5: they just like explode and he's now like this fast 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 5: kid or whatever. Maybe the gloves are that maybe they're 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 5: perfect for tested fields. Maybe just needs to wear two 70 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 5: gloves all the time because I've never seen him spin 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 5: it better. It was unbelievable and dropping balls in the buckets, 72 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 5: finding guys when he scrambled. 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: It's magic gloves. 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Monday Night football, I it was just Week 75 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: one is so crazy because starters don't play as much 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: in the preseason, so a lot of times. I mean, 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: I went into the Bears Vikings game and I'm like, 78 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what's going to look like. 79 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing a quarterback struggle more for three 80 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: quarters and then become Joe Montana. In the fourth, JJ 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy had a big completion left sideline to Justin Jefferson, 82 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: and it was like his chest got bigger and his 83 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: velocity increased. It was like, Okay, I feel good. I 84 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: got one. And I don't know how to explain it. 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like hitting a great golf shot, but it 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: was like that completion off to the races like it 87 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: looked almost changed his body language. Have you ever seen 88 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: a quarterback not have it and have it like JJ 89 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: McCarthy over the course of a throw or two. 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 4: I mean it happens. 91 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 5: You get streaky like shooters, like hitters. Once you get 92 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 5: in your groove, things start to slow down and the 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 5: target looks awfully big. You're anticipating everything, and you could 94 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 5: tell he was riding that momentum into the end zone. 95 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 5: Even on his scramble or his run that looked great. 96 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 5: He's a lot faster than you think, and all it 97 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: takes is one good feeling, one good sensation, and then boom. 98 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: He was impressive, and I was impressed with his coach 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 5: putting him in situations to be successful, not getting too 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 5: scared after the pick six, knowing you can rely on 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 5: your defense, understanding the big picture of playing with a 102 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 5: rookie quarterback. There's gonna be growing pains, you're gonna screw up. 103 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to win in spite of that quarterback sometimes. 104 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 5: But when he gets good, when he gets hot, let's 105 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 5: make sure we're all on board and we'll really take 106 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 5: it to the next level. 107 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: That was fun to watch. 108 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: What was something Caleb Williams did You liked? Everybody's nitpicked, 109 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: everybody's criticized him. The bad stuff was obvious. Was there 110 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: anything you saw and you kind of liked? 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: Well, his highlights are like the highs are so high, 112 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 5: the lows are so low. Some of the throws that 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 5: just go sailing over a guy's head in the flat 114 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 5: like those ones leave you scratch in your head a 115 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 5: little bit. And then the ones that are you know, 116 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 5: the trick shot kind of falling away. I got to 117 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 5: put extra zing on it, and you're getting hit as 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: you throw it, and the ball, you know, almost sticks 119 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: in the guy's face mask, and it's the most accurate 120 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: ball you've ever seen. So it was just the swing, 121 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: the from great to or throw it was. I don't know, 122 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 5: he just didn't look as consistent as as you want 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: to see him. I don't know if it's you know, 124 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 5: the first game kind of thing, but he showed it 125 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: in spurts. It's now about, you know, managing your misses 126 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: and you know, not having such a delta between your 127 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 5: great plays and your awful plays just somewhere in the. 128 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: Middle would be a lot easier for the coach and 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: everybody else. 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: and noone Easter, not a Empacific. 132 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 6: Hey, what's up, everybody, it's me. Three time Pro Bowl 133 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 6: of LeVar Arrington and I couldn't be more excited to 134 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 6: announce a podcast called up on Game. 135 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: What is up on Game? 136 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 6: You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. Hutchman, 137 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 6: Zada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Birds. 138 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 6: You can only name a show with that type of 139 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 6: talent on it. Up on Game We're going to be 140 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 6: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 6: to Up on Game with me lebar Arrington, TJ. Hutchman, Zada, 142 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 6: wherever you get your podcast from. 144 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: So on Friday in Brazil, Chargers beat the Chiefs. Justin 145 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: Herbert was magnificent with a receiving cord that we've always 146 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: said it's not quite there yet. So you have a 147 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: new show, by the way, which you can plug here 148 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: as well. But I just thought I thought it maybe, Yeah, 149 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: I know the Chiefs secondary is talented. It just looked 150 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: like he was in a complete zone in the second half. 151 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: What say you? 152 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: My man was on fire and you're talking about NFL 153 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: on Fox Presents Rearview and I got to interview Justin. 154 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 5: But basically, the idea behind the show is to use 155 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 5: some of the relationships I have in the league, get 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 5: some true perspective, authentic, you know, answers from players about 157 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: what's going on in their world. Nothing you know, spun 158 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 5: by the media. It's not a podium thing. It's not 159 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: you know, hopefully not a bunch of cliches and coach speaker, 160 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 5: you know, those kind of Hey, we're going to bring 161 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: our a game and hope we beat the no I 162 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 5: want to know what's really going on. Talk to me 163 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: as a player, a person, a former player. You know, 164 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 5: let's let's get into it and let me hear your thoughts. 165 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: But he is a special talent. And when he gets hot, 166 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: we talked about, you know, JJ McCarthy getting hot. 167 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: When Herbert gets hot. 168 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 5: I mean, his numbers early on in his career speak 169 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: for themselves. And he's just never had those big game 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 5: moments on this stage, right. He did in the Rose 171 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 5: Bowl one that took over that game against Wisconsin, I believe, 172 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 5: with his legs. And then this pass game to open 173 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 5: the season against the Chiefs in Brazil, just to scramble 174 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: to ice the game and the slide and you saw 175 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 5: a little bit of his personality show because he's so 176 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 5: quiet and so reserved. He's a man a few words, 177 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 5: but you saw him slide and kind of hold the 178 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 5: post for a second, like okay, you know, you kind 179 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 5: of see him coming out of his shell a little bit. 180 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 5: And I think he gets like that. As the game 181 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 5: goes on, he takes a hit, he starts getting his groove. 182 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 5: Look Out, man, that guy's scary, and I think he's 183 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: finally starting to hit that you know, that crescendo in 184 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: his career where a lot of these big games he 185 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 5: might be on the other side of things and it's 186 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 5: gonna be fun to watch too. 187 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: So Mark, when you were in the league, you week 188 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: three of the preseason, you got a lot of snaps 189 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: as a starter. That's the way it used to be. 190 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: You'd pay play a half, that's the way. That's not 191 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the way it works anymore. So I don't the last 192 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: few years, as we've cut down to three preseason and. 193 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: Starters don't play. I'm very. 194 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to go overboard on bad young quarterback 195 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: play or bad O line play because I think O 196 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: lines take a while to get right. So I don't 197 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: want to go crazy on New England's got all these 198 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: new coaches and new offensive linements. Like, eh, but give 199 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: me a thought about what is the difference between Week 200 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: one and two in the NFL. 201 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: Then you played in the different era, but. 202 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: It feels like to me, week one it almost felt 203 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: experimental for some of these teams offensively. 204 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: You're exactly right. 205 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 5: I think Week one poses so many challenges for each 206 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 5: team inherently, just like when you show up for training camp, 207 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 5: just like when you show up for OTAs a defense 208 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 5: is just a little bit ahead of everything going on, 209 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 5: because that initial game is a lot of reactions to 210 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 5: unscouted looks, things you've never seen, pressures and stuff that 211 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 5: you're just not prepared for. Necessarily, you kind of just 212 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 5: work off your own rules and figure it out as 213 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 5: a group. But I think that's a big issue as 214 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: the unscattered looks, the conditioning aspect of week one getting 215 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 5: back into playing shape, especially these guys that didn't play 216 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 5: like we saw the guys from the Titans go to Denver. 217 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 5: I mean that elevation is real and game one elevation 218 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: new place, it's real, and they were dragging a little 219 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 5: bit towards the end of the game both sides, but 220 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 5: Denver was obviously accustomed to it, so it's a huge 221 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 5: advantage playing at my high like that. I think that's 222 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 5: a big one. And then you go through all these practices, 223 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 5: even when they're joint practices in preseason games. 224 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like tackling, but not as full speed to 225 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: the ground. 226 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 5: Right that Week one jump in speed and full speed 227 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 5: tackling to the ground, Guys forget. 228 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: Guys forget, and the bulk just goes everywhere. 229 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 5: So I think that's kind of the reason for the 230 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 5: way Week one looks the way it looks. 231 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to take a break. 232 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: He's got bow Nick's thoughts on a game I watched 233 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: a lot of Mark did. Cam Ward didn't have the numbers, 234 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: but kind of blew me away considering the pass rush 235 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: and bow struggled, and Mark's going to talk about both 236 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: when we come back. 237 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: It's the Hurt. 238 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 239 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: in neonon Eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 240 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 241 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: Really interesting quarterback breakdown. Mark Sanchez still with us on 242 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: in the Denver game. Because cam Woard didn't have the numbers, 243 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: he made a throw Mark that was really interesting. He 244 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: made a couple of them. One of the throws that 245 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: I was kind of it was kind of magical. First 246 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: of all, Denver's pass rush is a sea of orange. 247 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: It's in maybe the best in the league. 248 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy, and very early he got surrounded, like one 249 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: second in, he threw a pass to his left out. 250 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: In the flat. I have no idea how he saw 251 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: the back. 252 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: He threw it perpendicular, and I was like, yeah, Okay, 253 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: that kid's got a sense of the field. That was 254 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: one of them. And I'll get to Boone Knicks next, 255 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: but I just want to talk about Cam Moreton. I 256 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: know the numbers weren't great, but I was really impressed 257 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: by him. 258 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he also had like four drops. I mean, he 259 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 5: threw some balls into tight windows and you know, had 260 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 5: his guys in position there towards the end of the 261 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 5: game to. 262 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: Win it. 263 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 5: And you know, he also made some rookie mistakes, took 264 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 5: some sacks, knocked himself out of field goal range, you know, 265 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 5: took a couple of hits that I wish you wouldn't have. 266 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 5: But overall, for your first performance, I was thoroughly impressed. 267 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: And the biggest thing I could tell was the stage 268 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: wasn't too big for him. It never felt like he 269 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 5: was overwhelmed, really, and that's an overwhelming defense, that's a 270 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: suffocating defense. So he's got something special to him, and 271 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 5: I'm excited to watch him grow week after week because 272 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 5: he's not nearly a finished product yet and he's got 273 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 5: plenty of talent. 274 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: All right, let's do bone Nicks. 275 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: I So this was my complaint as somebody who sat 276 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: in the couch. I felt they got to the they 277 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: got to the line too late, too often. I thought 278 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Sean put a ton on his plate. Sean does that, 279 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: and I felt like, man, this feels like a week 280 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: three game plan. They're putting a lot on him. He's 281 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: getting to the line late. I think you noted this before. 282 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: That was my interpretation. Was it felt like he was 283 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: playing catch up a little bit. 284 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: What do you think it was? It was a little hectic, 285 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: the operation, the substitutions. It wasn't mid season form, and 286 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: that's because it was week one. There's a lot of 287 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 5: personnels to go in. There's a lot of you know, 288 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 5: trial and error and some of this stuff. Like he 289 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 5: looked great throwing on the run. That's one of his strengths. 290 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 5: And coach Payton knows that he's got that. You know, 291 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: he's such a good athlete and he can just do 292 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 5: the quick double play kind of throws with the with 293 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 5: the little bubbles and screens. 294 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: And all that. 295 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 5: And then I thought, you know, he didn't use his 296 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: legs enough. Remember he rushed for like four hundred and 297 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 5: thirty yards last year, so I could have seen him, 298 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 5: you know, steal a couple of yards with his legs 299 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 5: a little more. 300 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: But overall not his best day. Tough operation late to 301 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. 302 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 5: He felt like it was very reactive, at least in 303 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 5: my opinion, and you know, that's just something they got 304 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: to clean up. But I'd like to see him run 305 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 5: just a little bit more. All right, do you got 306 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 5: Do you have tape? 307 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: You can usually. 308 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: A couple of good clips for you. But the first 309 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: one is the interception. 310 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 5: The second one is a touchdown pass, and you can 311 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 5: go ahead and roll those. 312 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: But basically this is play one. It's kind of a 313 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: half roll set up. 314 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 5: It's a counter to the other play that they ran 315 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: earlier that he got intercepted on as well. So essentially 316 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 5: you're going to get this too high structure from the safeties. 317 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: But look at this corner. 318 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 5: He's got some blitz eyes and he's back up by 319 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: that near safety, So you're going to get a little 320 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 5: corner cat away from the role. Now, when you bring 321 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 5: the corner, you have to back him up with somebody, 322 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 5: and that somebody is going to be Xavier Woods. He 323 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: kind of turns into the corner because the corner is 324 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 5: now blitzing, So Bo's going to roll to his left. 325 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: Set this play up. It's going to be a three 326 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 5: level vertical flat defender. Read down in this bottom third 327 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 5: and you see Xavier Woods. He goes to cover where 328 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: the corner was and he knows Sutton's flying out of here, 329 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 5: taking the top off the defense. I got a I 330 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 5: got I need help. He's basically pointing at the safety 331 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: to let him know, hey, somebody help me right there. 332 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 5: This play is a winner. It's it's perfect. You got 333 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 5: what you want. Your receiver on a safety who had 334 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 5: to come forward and go get this guy, and there 335 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: he goes right by him. So Bo Nicks, I think 336 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: he got caught looking over the ball instead of letting 337 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: this thing develop in front. And that's the biggest thing 338 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: on these deep crossers. Shallow crossers. You got to see 339 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 5: in front, and then he gets stopped a little bit 340 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: early because of the pressure by Simmons, so he's forced 341 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 5: to cut this thing loose and he doesn't see the safety. 342 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 5: Xavier Woods drop off the deep high angle seven route. 343 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 5: That's where the ball's got to go, and this might 344 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: be a huge touchdown in that place. 345 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 4: Erupts and he gets caught. 346 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: Looking over the ball kind of predetermining that over route, 347 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 5: does not see in front when he has a huge 348 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 5: opportunity over the top. That's the design of this play. 349 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: When you get a look like this, we got to 350 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: cash in. Instead, he gets picked off by Woods right there. 351 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 5: So that was one of the negatives from the game. 352 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: This next one, though, I really thought Sean Payton in 353 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: this sequencing was like right in his groove. He showed 354 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: him a ton of different personnels, got him right down 355 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 5: in the red zone. They take Lugerious Sneed out of 356 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 5: the game and they went after Darrell Junior. But basically, 357 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 5: it's when people talk about quarters or quarter quarter half. 358 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 5: There's a fourth a fourth a half of the field 359 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 5: for that near safety and then the flat, so it's 360 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: quarter quarter to the field, half to the boundary, and essentially, 361 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 5: when you cut this defense in half, it's four on 362 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 5: three to the left side, the halfback is one of 363 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 5: the three with the tight end and the outside receiver, 364 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: and then on the backside it's three on two. 365 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 4: So it's advantage defense. 366 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: You got to find stuff to stress their coverage and 367 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 5: basically get verticals on those safeties and make those safeties 368 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 5: hold them with inside verticals and then make your moves 369 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: on the corner on the outside. Well to do that, 370 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 5: a lot of times you're gonna double move, So you 371 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 5: need a pump fake. Love the mechanics. Quick, little shoulder lean, quick, 372 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 5: little pump gets the corner to react. You're already holding 373 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 5: the safety with that inside steam route at the bottom 374 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 5: of the numbers there or top of the numbers, excuse me. 375 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 5: And you see the corner who just subbed in for 376 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 5: lactarious steed and then the other corner had just got 377 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 5: a penalty, puts them in this situation and boom, Sean 378 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 5: Payton was all over it. His quarterback was all over it. 379 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 5: You're running out of real estate here, Colin. So you 380 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 5: got to make those pump fakes quick. You got to 381 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 5: feel that safety and you have to drive this ball. 382 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 5: This is a beautiful throw. I mean he put this 383 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 5: thing on a frozen rope. That's one of those those 384 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 5: football that you know, flies through a car wash, doesn't 385 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: get wet kind of thing. That's money and that's what 386 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 5: you want to see from bo Nicks. He showed it 387 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 5: in flashes. It just wasn't as consistent as we were 388 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: used to towards the end of last year. I think a 389 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 5: lot of that is, you know, getting some of those 390 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 5: personnels and plays and volume flushed out. 391 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: And getting all the guys on the same page. 392 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 5: But trust me, I love their defense and I love 393 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 5: that they're learning these lessons with a win and the 394 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: win callumn as opposed to losing their home opener. 395 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: Mark Sanchez has a new show debuting. 396 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: Is It Is It? 397 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: Next Tuesday Night? When is it? 398 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: No? It's out. It came out okay yesterday with Justin Herbert. 399 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Okay, go to Foxsports dot com and our digital I'm 400 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: gonna watch it myself. I'm in Chicago now, so I 401 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: get on the train and go home. This is not 402 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: all smoothie sun La driving baby. 403 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm commuting on the train. 404 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: I love it. 405 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: I love it all right, all right, thanks Mark Mark's got 406 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks Steelers this week, which again a really interesting game. 407 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Seattle one of the better better performances for a losing team, 408 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. They're driving, they're in the red zone, and 409 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: then Pittsburgh wins, but their defense was taken a part 410 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: at the seams by Justin Field. So Mark, I thought 411 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: Denver Tennessee was fascinating. You know, it's not Jamack. We 412 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: say this all the time. It's not just stats. If 413 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: you watch that game, there's an argument that cam Ward 414 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: made better reads as a rookie than bow Knicks. Bow 415 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: Knicks has a much much better roster, and because of 416 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Denver's defense, you know, most of the time Denver's gonna 417 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: score twenty four points in win. 418 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: So it's like that game. 419 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: I said after that game, I was like, I know, 420 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna say this. I thought cam Ward, considering the environment, altitude, 421 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: pass rush, I thought it was a B plus a minus. 422 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: I thought he was really good. 423 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 7: Totally agree. 424 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 8: I think Titans are they're gonna be live Colin this season. 425 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 8: Now we'll see against the Rams Sunday if they can 426 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 8: duplicate that. Obviously, you're you're aware of the Rams offensive 427 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 8: line situation, which is good news for our Titans. 428 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: Our Titans. That's right, Jmack with the news. 429 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: No, no, turn on the news. 430 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: This is the herdline news. 431 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 7: All right, Colin. 432 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 8: It's being called revenge Sunday in the NFL, a lot 433 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 8: of teams looking to avenge losses, chiefly Patrick Mahomes. The 434 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 8: game is on a Fox, Patrick Mahomes going up against 435 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 8: the Eagles. Well, Vic Fongio, Fangio, fanio, however you want 436 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 8: to say it. Eagles defensive coordinator has his squad on 437 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 8: high alert for any Mahomes sideline shenanigans. 438 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 9: Always be aware when you're near the sideline for all 439 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 9: those points you just brought up one quarterback flopping going 440 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 9: out of bounce to the quarterback lowering his shoulder and 441 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 9: try and get the last piece of business in there. 442 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 9: So you got to play with good ben knees and 443 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 9: be ready for anything that happens. But you know, Mahomes 444 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 9: is the ultimate competitor, and doesn't surprise me to see 445 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 9: him do that. 446 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 8: Little Phil Jackson action there from Vic starting to lobby 447 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 8: the refs on a Wednesday. I'm impressed. He's not wrong, Colin. 448 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 8: You saw you know you can't touch Mahomes, the Golden Boy, right, 449 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 8: and you saw him lower his shoulder and then kind 450 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 8: of flexing like, bro, you can't do it. Somebody's gonna 451 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 8: lay him out. And Eagles had some hitters at linebacker. 452 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean here's the play on FS one 453 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 8: in question where Mahomes scrambled. 454 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 455 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: No, I mean, and by the way, Mahomes got called 456 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: out on the internet, so you know, you think he 457 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: cares about that. Come on, But I think it was 458 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: pretty obvious that they designed the rule. They did not 459 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: want this to happen. And you know, there is something 460 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: to be said generally, you know, nobody wants to hurt anybody, 461 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: but I think this play is the kind of play 462 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: that gets talked about in locker rooms in the NFL 463 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: by defensive players. It's like, we can't touch him, but 464 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: they can put a shoulder down and take a shot 465 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: at us. 466 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: Hey. 467 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing where defensive players the following 468 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: week may take one for the team and get a 469 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: flag and hit a little bit late on a sideline. 470 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 471 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 8: Let me give a name for you. Jihad Campbell, the 472 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 8: rookie for Philadelphia. 473 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 7: Or he was unbelievable against. 474 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: Dallas, huge, great athlete. 475 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 8: You had him as the sixth best rookie who showed 476 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 8: out in Week one. This guy's a machine. I would 477 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 8: not be surprised as somebody layers. 478 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: The Boone classic Philadelphia move, they go to the SEC. 479 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's an inside linebacker, which is considered like 480 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: a third, fourth, fifth round. That's not a position a 481 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys do. And you know Howie Roseman says, 482 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm just going to go get the best athlete available. 483 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: He was the best linebackerly, the best interior linebacker. But 484 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: he was one of those guys that you knew with 485 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: what Philadelphia has around him, he was a can't miss 486 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: first round pick. 487 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 8: By the way, they love shopping in the SEC at 488 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 8: the draft. Nolan Smith, Jalen Carter, the King Davis, and 489 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 8: the Mint I get rewarded. Yeah, exactly. All right, let's 490 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 8: move on to h Thursday Night football. It's a good one. 491 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 8: Commanders at Packers. I think you and I both on 492 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 8: the same side here. Micah Parsons made his presence felt 493 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 8: in limited action against the Lions, and uh, you know, 494 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 8: dan Quinton was asked about how he'd handle his former player. 495 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 10: Are you asking what would I do if I sure, yeah, 496 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 10: I'd sit him this week. Like Micah and other great players, 497 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 10: you want to you know, know where they are to 498 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 10: how to go play, and if you have a vulnerability 499 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 10: in a spot, you want to make sure it's you 500 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 10: can fortify that to his strength. So you don't just 501 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 10: you know, leave it to chance and see what happens. 502 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: In that game. 503 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: Hey, we've had a We have had a string of 504 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: college and pro football games, big standalone games, and they've 505 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: almost all hit. We have through through one week of 506 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. In two weeks college football, there have not 507 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: been a lot of misses. I mean Belichick was the 508 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: big miss the big Week one. 509 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: Well did you. 510 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 3: Watch Belichick Week two? 511 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: No, they played like you and Charlotte and lost time 512 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: of possession. Appalachian State scored more points against Charlotte than 513 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Belichick's offense did. I'm telling you that Belichick factory in 514 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Carolina is not good. 515 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 8: It was a rare offseason with from me. I was 516 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 8: bullish on this team real quick. If you're looking for 517 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 8: a name that could spy, Jaden Daniels, Edgar and Cooper 518 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 8: the young linebacker out of Texas A and m dude, 519 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 8: he is an animal and I'm telling you they can. 520 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 8: They have chess pieces now with him and Michael Parsons, 521 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 8: and then you get the young kid at the other 522 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 8: on the other edge coming off Van Nets. This is 523 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 8: a scary defense. I don't want to say Packers in 524 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 8: a blow out, but this came off three, so respected 525 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 8: money pushed it up to three and a half. I 526 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 8: like the Packers tomorrow night. Final story Colin is the 527 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 8: Raiders grabbing Ashton genty top ten in the draft. A 528 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 8: lot of hype around it, but in week one he 529 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 8: couldn't really get unlocked, only forty one yards on twenty 530 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 8: one touches. Pete Carroll is confident he'll be better in 531 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 8: week two. 532 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 11: Fast was he was a little he was he was hyped, 533 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 11: you know, he was jacked up, and he would tell 534 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 11: you I would think that, you know, he wish he 535 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 11: would have been a little more patient on some reads 536 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 11: and things like that that will come. 537 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: He didn't look like that in preseason. 538 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 11: This game, you know, being out there and being called 539 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 11: on to play and he'll carry the ball, you know, 540 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 11: nineteen times or whatever it was. It was a little 541 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 11: bit different for him. 542 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 4: And he'll play way better. 543 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 11: He'll see things more clearly, and I know he's well 544 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 11: frustrated by that. 545 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: I uh, I think the Raiders are going to give 546 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers all. 547 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: They can handle. 548 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 8: You want to wait to see if Rock Bouers is 549 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 8: healthy and play. 550 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: That would help. 551 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that is one of those that probably make 552 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: the Blazing five simply because I don't know if Rock 553 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: Powers can play. Remember that COVID year when we were 554 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: all awful betting because you had Sunday you'd wake up and. 555 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 3: Four guys were a scratch. 556 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: If Brock Powers plays, I'll take the hook, I'll take 557 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders. 558 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 7: Well, the hook may be gone with Rock. 559 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 8: Powers is announced in, but yeah, he's gonna be huge. 560 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 8: If not, do you really have to respect any of 561 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 8: those Raiders? Like Jacoby Myers is good, but I'm not 562 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 8: worried about him killing me, you know. And so you 563 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 8: load up in the box and say, Ashton gend come 564 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 8: on down, buddy. 565 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: Okay. J Mack with the news. 566 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 567 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: herd Line News. 568 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: College football weekend is okay. Following week and then the 569 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: following week after that you start getting big time in 570 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: a conference playing there's some really good matchups in a 571 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, especially in the Big Ten. I thought 572 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: it was interesting. So we paid all this attention. Texas 573 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: plays Ohio State and all we talk about in the summer, 574 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: and it's a slow time of the year, right, you're 575 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: looking for segments and. 576 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: Arch manning the manning name Texas Ohio State. 577 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: So he got a lot of play and he's a 578 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: very good athlete, and maybe everybody got a little overheated, 579 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: but you know, it's July and talk radio and sports 580 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: shows and then he's stunk. In week one, he just 581 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: arm angles mechanics, accuracy. 582 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 3: It was a bit of a mess. 583 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Last week he came out and it was fine, but 584 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: he did wins a couple of times when he threw. 585 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: And you know, my opinion on that is it's football. 586 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: People wins all the time. Sark got a little defensive 587 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: at the press conference about that, and I. 588 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: Asked Joel Klant. 589 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: Joel Klatt, I said, you know, the truth is Texas football. 590 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: The quarterback position, it may be the most discussed and 591 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: pressurized position in college football. You know, coach at Notre Dame, 592 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: coach at Alabama, quarterback at Texas is Sar feeling the 593 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: heat when he got defensive with the media covering the Longhorns. 594 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: What makes it more worrisome is that he's win saying 595 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: while not throwing the football very accurately, and there's speculation 596 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: of why is his arm angled down and what's going on? 597 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: Is he hurt? 598 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 12: So there's wild speculation, and I think that Sark sees 599 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 12: that you see the defensiveness of a coach trying to 600 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 12: defend a quarterback that is not reaching the expectations that 601 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 12: have been shoveled on him by the outside. Whether he 602 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 12: liked it or not, and whether you like the answer 603 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 12: or not, I like it if I'm Arch and I 604 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 12: think that's the point. 605 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's time Week two NFL schedule, Jmac, I 606 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: ask you we get to midweek Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and 607 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: I ask you specific questions about the NFL schedule. I'm 608 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: going to bring out the week two schedule. So in 609 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: Week one, we had a lot of near upsets. I 610 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: don't consider the Chargers over the Chiefs huge upset all 611 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: of the I think the Chiefs had beaten him seven 612 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: straight times. 613 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: Did we have a huge upset in week one? 614 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean Miami's performance was disturbing. 615 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: Interview points spread. No, no, we. 616 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: Did not, although although again Tennessee made it uncomfortable for Denver. 617 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: Do you see does any upset jump out to you 618 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: in week two? 619 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 8: You know Colin so the Cowboy they released a thing 620 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 8: called look aheadlines. Right, so on last Friday, the Cowboys 621 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 8: were three point favorites against the Giants for week two. 622 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 7: That line's now. 623 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 8: Six because Dallas looked good against Philly and the Giants 624 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 8: looked inept. Do you really think Dallas, remember, don't go 625 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 8: off week one your preseason? Did you think Dallas was 626 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 8: six points better than the Giants? I mean, I think 627 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 8: you had Dallas in the basement, so I think the 628 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 8: Giants could be live for an upset here. 629 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: No, no, I think that's a good call in the division. 630 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 7: You know Brian Dable kind of back against the wall. 631 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 8: I saw Jackson Dart also taking some first team reps 632 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 8: this week. 633 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: Also Mike, And now you have tape of the Cowboys 634 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: a full game without Mike. 635 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah right you. 636 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: Now, okay, Now you know Kenny Clark's nice player, but 637 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: maybe that helps San Francisco at New Orleans. Spencer Rattler 638 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: was not terrible and San Francisco's a mess physically. 639 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: Does that have upset on it? 640 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, it does, unfortunately, but you know I'm a rider 641 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 8: died brockfordy guy. 642 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 7: I need to see what's up with his shoulder and toe. 643 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 8: Obviously, no, Kittle is not great and like you said, 644 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 8: thirty one touches for Semac. 645 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 7: You can't keep doing that every week. 646 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: Okay, here's my upset of the week. Tennessee at home 647 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: Rams o line beat up Jeffrey Simmons, unblockable, cam Ward 648 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: comes home, low scoring, so it's not going to be 649 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: a shootout. That's gonna be a low scoring football game 650 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: with a couple of offensive lines that could struggle Tennessee 651 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: in overtime beats the Rams. 652 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 8: You see Jeffrey Simmons just wrecking havoc up the middle 653 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 8: against Stafford, who's not really mobile. And the Texans defense 654 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 8: was good against the Rams. Man it's a good defense, 655 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 8: So you're right. I think this is a close game. 656 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 8: I think we're going to see the line dip down 657 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 8: a little more lower than five. 658 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 7: Now. 659 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 8: Historically mcveigh's been very good in the early timeslot when 660 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 8: traveling east. He's just a great coach, you know. But 661 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 8: I don't hate that pick, are you? Willing to hold 662 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 8: your nose and take the Browns to beat the Ravens. 663 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I will not hold my nose. I 664 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: do think. 665 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: I think San Francisco, based on the health report, is 666 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: ripe for an upset, and I would say keep the 667 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: health report in your hand. With the rams O line, 668 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: they could be in trouble. All right, we are done. 669 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow. First things first is around 670 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: the corner of it, sir,