Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Hello everyone, and welcome to Stradio Lab.
Speaker 1: We are coming at you by coastally once again after
Speaker 1: our string of hit recordings in New York City.
Speaker 2: We are coming at you by coastally on a beautiful Sunday,
Speaker 2: and I am leaving for it, Dahlia tomorrow. I'm going
Speaker 2: on a vacation, as is my birthright. You're allowed as
Speaker 2: a gay man based in ban I actually have a
Speaker 2: message to the Spin Drift team, and I want to say,
Speaker 2: this is disgusting, y'all. What do better? Which one all
Speaker 2: spin drift? Not all spin enough? No we have I
Speaker 2: can't do it anymore. Either something is a seltzer, or
Speaker 2: it is a juice, or it is a mocktail, or
Speaker 2: it is a cocktail. This weird. They are being so
Speaker 2: toxic in wanting to have it all, and I cannot
Speaker 2: do it anymore.
Speaker 1: I could not disagree with you more. I think we
Speaker 1: need more innovation in the drink space. I think there's
Speaker 1: obviously so much space between juice and soda and water,
Speaker 1: and they are finding that space and they're exploring it
Speaker 1: in a way that is like thank you, I see.
Speaker 2: It's so funny to me. I'm like all the obviously
Speaker 2: defined things, whether it's a coke, a seltzer, a water
Speaker 2: like I would always rather have that than something that
Speaker 2: is somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3: Have you had the blue one, the lemon one?
Speaker 2: I have not had the lemon one. But once again,
Speaker 2: take a seltzer, take a lemon, squeeze some of it
Speaker 2: in there. Mix, mix, mix, Maybe we're talking a mint leaf.
Speaker 1: Look, not all of us can get back to me
Speaker 1: a fresh garden in our damn apartment.
Speaker 2: Sign up for sign up for uh farm to people?
Speaker 2: What is it called? There is a service so you
Speaker 2: can sign up for a few live in New York
Speaker 2: City farm to people. I believe it's called get some
Speaker 2: fresh herbs, stick them right in the glass, ice lemon,
Speaker 2: maybe a little lime, seltzer, put a little straw in there.
Speaker 2: It's time to party.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: They are always innovating with new delivery services over there,
Speaker 1: aren't they.
Speaker 2: They certainly are. I just yeah, I really, I'm really
Speaker 2: sorry if they're an advertiser. And I actually bet you
Speaker 2: that the people that work at spin Drift are really cool,
Speaker 2: and I bet you I would get along with them
Speaker 2: in real life, which is why it so pains me
Speaker 2: to be anti spin drift. I think my personality is
Speaker 2: very spin drift, how so, because I actually think I
Speaker 2: am someone who can't commit to one thing or the other,
Speaker 2: like I am half juice have Seltzer.
Speaker 1: So do you think you disliking Spindrift? Is it's pretty
Speaker 1: self hate?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's self hate.
Speaker 2: I think it might be. I think I think it
Speaker 2: might be. I think it might be in the in
Speaker 2: the same way that actually sometimes I feel like, uh,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that I do think I have strong
Speaker 2: personal politics, I'm not always the bravest person in terms
Speaker 2: of like getting out there and uh and taking a
Speaker 2: strong stand, and sometimes I feel some guilt about that.
Speaker 2: I think maybe what I'm responding to in the I
Speaker 2: guess uh sort of centrism of the Spindrift project is
Speaker 2: that I see a little too much of myself in it,
Speaker 2: and I wish I could be more proudly leftist.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you saying like the employees at Spindrift
Speaker 1: are probably pretty cool was actually really eye opening for me,
Speaker 1: because I was like, now, that's a fun career. Like
Speaker 1: if you work at Spindrift, you're like you get to
Speaker 1: be kind of like at a party, get to be
Speaker 1: like I actually work at spin Drifts, Everyone's like, oh fun.
Speaker 1: Everyone's sort of like it's not like, you know, if
Speaker 1: you work for like Coca Cola, it's sort of like, oh, like, yes,
Speaker 1: we all love Coca Cola, but.
Speaker 3: It is kind of bad that you're like poisoning.
Speaker 2: People, right, No, totally, that's not good.
Speaker 3: And then if you were like kind of water, if
Speaker 3: you work for like bottled water.
Speaker 2: Like Evyon, bad for the environment.
Speaker 3: It's bad for the environment.
Speaker 1: But if you work for spin Drift, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: good for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of like working for eight. Well, it's
Speaker 2: a little bit like working for a twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yes. Absolutely, it's the only ethical soda I know.
Speaker 2: I know, And you know what that might be why
Speaker 2: it's so disgusting, because actually you need soda to be unethical.
Speaker 2: Like the reason that I coc is so delicious it
Speaker 2: is because it's killing you from the inside and actually
Speaker 2: rotting all your organs.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a friend who I heard via a third
Speaker 2: party at some point was consulting for nuts dot com
Speaker 2: and her job was to think of what to put
Speaker 2: in the different mix mixed bags. And I said, now
Speaker 2: that is a dream job.
Speaker 3: Well, that's rom comm job yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: God, and she like can never get the combination quite right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then she meets a guy and she like, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, my dad always did this. He
Speaker 1: always took fas shoes with.
Speaker 2: This and not just that. But they're different enough that
Speaker 2: she realizes sometimes you need like a little bit of
Speaker 2: dried fruit and a little bit of nut.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's a beautiful little love story anyway.
Speaker 2: Sorry, if you work at spin Drift, I'm seeing here
Speaker 2: it's non gmo, no sugar added, carbonated water, concord, grape juice,
Speaker 2: lemon juice.
Speaker 3: And congrats on the canned design, you guys.
Speaker 2: Kind of no, you absolutely ate that down and congrats
Speaker 2: on the flavors totally in the name. You know, it's
Speaker 2: rare that a brand, a new brand, makes an impact.
Speaker 2: Spin Drift I like, I love that. I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it more than all the pro biotic sodas
Speaker 2: that are all named like pop pop, Holly Lollipop, don't
Speaker 2: like that, Willy lolligag No, talk to me like an adult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly those I hate those. Those are like
Speaker 1: just I have soda no.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, also, get can someone make a good
Speaker 2: ginger ale. Who's listening? Someone make a ginger ale that
Speaker 2: tastes like it's burning my throat because of how ginger
Speaker 2: it is. I want it now, and I don't want
Speaker 2: too much sugar in it, and I don't want too
Speaker 2: much pulp in it.
Speaker 3: And what's the and what's the deal?
Speaker 1: So when you get like a ginger beer in a can,
Speaker 1: why is the can as big as my thumb?
Speaker 2: I not even why. By the way, when you're on
Speaker 2: a plane and you order a selter and they give
Speaker 2: you one tiny seltzer that's the size of one of
Speaker 2: those Tonic waters that you have for Gin and.
Speaker 3: Tonic, it's insane.
Speaker 2: What do you think? I am? Polly Pocket. So this
Speaker 2: is a callin show.
Speaker 3: This is a calin show.
Speaker 1: We are ready to take your calls from our beautiful
Speaker 1: number three eight five k guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually want to just play the first one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hit it?
Speaker 4: Hi, Sam and George, This is Alison calling from Vermont
Speaker 4: Place that Sam has famously hated on on the podcast,
Speaker 4: but differ. Just calling because me and my girlfriend Robin
Speaker 4: are big fans of the podcast, but we're very unlikely
Speaker 4: fans because we're.
Speaker 5: We're both butch lesbians, like you know, Lesbian's not that unlikely,
Speaker 5: I guess. But we're a butch.
Speaker 4: Lesbian couple and we live out in the sticks and
Speaker 4: roll Vermont.
Speaker 5: We don't have any social media. We are both big
Speaker 5: into like wandering in the woods and playing in the dirt.
Speaker 5: So that means that since we're still like huge fans
Speaker 5: of Stradia Lab, most of like our like cultural knowledge
Speaker 5: these days we actually get from you guys on the podcast,
Speaker 5: like we know about things that are happening in like
Speaker 5: the cultural world, I guess, like in a city, or
Speaker 5: something people are doing in the cities that people are
Speaker 5: talking about in the cities because of you guys.
Speaker 6: And so I was wondering if there are any other
Speaker 6: things that you think we should know about that you
Speaker 6: want to shout out for us. So please educate, educate
Speaker 6: some rural Vermonters about what needs to be known, what
Speaker 6: needs to be known by by the world.
Speaker 5: Okay, I love you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah bye, Well an amazing call. I first of all
Speaker 1: want to defend myself and say that I don't hate Vermont.
Speaker 3: I love Vermont.
Speaker 1: I go to the gay swimming hole there and I
Speaker 1: celebrate it. It is a bit boring and that it
Speaker 1: can be jarring, and you know, you think you want boring,
Speaker 1: but then you're out there and you're like, well what
Speaker 1: do I do? Literally, and then you're ending up watching
Speaker 1: the Idol while you're on vacation in Vermont because you
Speaker 1: crave sort of glossy something.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I think your reputation is like that
Speaker 2: you are more of like the one to go to
Speaker 2: a to Vermont swimming hole, but you also are in
Speaker 2: fact so much more city than I am, and that
Speaker 2: when you're there for over thirty minutes, you are like
Speaker 2: literally in tears and you're needing to watch something on HBO. Max.
Speaker 3: Well, it's really it's tough because I love the idea, of.
Speaker 1: Course of being alone in the woods, but then it's like,
Speaker 1: but not, I don't actually want that, like I love them.
Speaker 2: No, of course, of course, I want to say before
Speaker 2: we answer this question, like for two rural lesbians to
Speaker 2: call in, be so effusively nice and then ask us
Speaker 2: to tell them what culture they need to know is
Speaker 2: like when I started this job, that was my biggest dream,
Speaker 2: the idea that like a really kind butsch lesbian is like,
Speaker 2: all right, well you know these these are gay guys,
Speaker 2: like their role is to teach us about pop culture.
Speaker 2: So come at me and to be there with an
Speaker 2: open mind and an open heart, knowing that they their
Speaker 2: vibe is more going into the woods, and our vibe
Speaker 2: is more HBO Max.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So okay, what culture today May twenty five? Like, what
Speaker 2: culture do these rural vermontors need to know about?
Speaker 1: I think the big one is literally just all summer
Speaker 1: Addison Ray. I think that's like the biggest No, that's
Speaker 1: the biggest one because I think that's like a nice
Speaker 1: She's obviously like has mainstream appeal, but is like not
Speaker 1: full mainstream yet, And so I think it's fun to
Speaker 1: be on the like for a rural Vermont lesbian, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, look at what I'm doing. I'm listening
Speaker 1: to Addison Ray, and I know that I'm in Yes.
Speaker 2: I think that you need to be able to recognize
Speaker 2: Tom Brown on the red carpet.
Speaker 3: You have to pronounce the way there, you have to.
Speaker 2: Pronounce the love correctly, Tom Brown. Listen to me. If
Speaker 2: something is very tailored but kind of weird and it's
Speaker 2: like basically black nyvy white red.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's kind of look for the little stripes.
Speaker 2: A little fascistic look for the little stripes. That's gonna
Speaker 2: go ahead and be Tom Brown.
Speaker 3: What else? What other cultures do they need to know?
Speaker 2: The Can Film Festival, Yeah, is happening right now. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be over by the time you're listening to this.
Speaker 2: You're gonna wanna get your riffs in about Yeah, I
Speaker 2: get your effins about. No, here's something you need to
Speaker 2: know about standing ovation as I can. They're greatly exaggerated
Speaker 2: because actually, at these days everything gets a standing ovation.
Speaker 2: So you'll hear, oh, this got a seven minute standing ovation.
Speaker 2: I can not that impressive means nothing, means nothing, okay.
Speaker 1: Sort of the participation trophies of Can yea actually okay.
Speaker 2: Huge thing you need to know is that culture used
Speaker 2: to be more streamlined and now it's more fractured. So
Speaker 2: so there's all every everything is niche and there are
Speaker 2: niche communities. And that's why Pete Buddha Judge has to
Speaker 2: go on like a podcast hosted by a comedian who
Speaker 2: does jokes where he like makes fun of different races.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why Bernie Sanders has to do that as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 3: It's quite sad, is there, I'm like.
Speaker 2: Nicole Scherzinger used to be in the Pussycat Dolls, but
Speaker 2: now she's Revelatory and Sunset Boulevard, which is not a
Speaker 2: very good musical, but this production is actually kind of refreshing.
Speaker 3: And get ready to feel complex about Lord?
Speaker 2: Right, So the thing with Lord.
Speaker 1: Okay, because the thing with Lord is that her gender
Speaker 1: is expanding, but she's also tying it to her album
Speaker 1: Rollout in a way that's very sort of sometimes feels cynical,
Speaker 1: but sometimes you're like, but she like she should be
Speaker 1: able to talk about it, but then it's so tied
Speaker 1: to the album that you're like, what's is this just
Speaker 1: for attention?
Speaker 3: What's going on here? Yes?
Speaker 2: And we're also in a place where, you know, the
Speaker 2: LGBTQ plus community is scared of putting out the wrong
Speaker 2: messaging because there's danger out there, and so when someone
Speaker 2: like Lord is saying, you know, is off message, everyone's like, Lord, Ella,
Speaker 2: not now, and you're not from here, but we're gonna
Speaker 2: need to stand message.
Speaker 3: We're gonna need to stay on message.
Speaker 1: And you know, people will be mixed about her music,
Speaker 1: but I think it's best to take a strong stance
Speaker 1: in any direction. Don't be the spin drift either love
Speaker 1: or hate. I'm choosing love and Lord please come on
Speaker 1: the podcast.
Speaker 2: Correct. I would say that, I mean, is there anything
Speaker 2: obvious that we're forgetting?
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's move on. Okay, it's I'm like,
Speaker 1: realize it's when we record just the two of us
Speaker 1: on a Sunday zoom. I'm like, I'm like so comfortable,
Speaker 1: and I forget. I do forget that. It's this is
Speaker 1: for public consumption.
Speaker 7: Totally.
Speaker 2: Oh another thing, look up Pink Panthers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna want to look her up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look up Pink pan threads.
Speaker 3: Maybe read the wiki for her, just a little miss Pink. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also I would base, I would basically watch the
Speaker 2: movies of Ariast and form any opinion on them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now's the time.
Speaker 2: Now's the time.
Speaker 3: And I'd say, download okay lou.
Speaker 2: Yeah, download Oka l o u is how it's spelled.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna want to put that up when
Speaker 1: it comes to the New year. You're gonna say, and
Speaker 1: this was actually my favorite album of the year, And
Speaker 1: I think that'll give you some real credibility.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Okay, Oh, you know, before we I want
Speaker 2: to say, we got a ton of calls from lesbians
Speaker 2: and otherwise queer women, specifically about lesbian culture. I think
Speaker 2: we don't want to push our luck too much by
Speaker 2: commenting too much on lesbian culture after we hosted an
Speaker 2: entire lesbian lab show. Uh, but I do want to
Speaker 2: very quickly shout out some of the calls we got.
Speaker 2: So let's see. Someone asked, is political lesbianism back? And
Speaker 2: by that she defined it as like not sleeping with
Speaker 2: men by choice, the sort of like not like I
Speaker 2: was born this way and men are disgusting, but like
Speaker 2: I am, I could sleep with men if I wanted to,
Speaker 2: and often do want to, but I'm choosing not to
Speaker 2: do that as a politics. Well, so the question is
Speaker 2: is that back? So that was a great question. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Someone says, like someone asked us someone just went to
Speaker 2: a new lesbian bar and she said it was just
Speaker 2: completely vibeless and terrible, and she basically wants us to
Speaker 2: talk about like why lesbian bars have no vibe. Again,
Speaker 2: we are not sorry. I'm being actually poisoned live on air.
Speaker 2: We don't want to comment on that right now.
Speaker 3: I want to comment on that right now, but I
Speaker 3: do have one quick thing.
Speaker 1: I saw friend of the pod Casey Jane Ellison this
Speaker 1: weekend and there was a we were talking about lesbian
Speaker 1: bars and gay bars, and an interesting theory was pitched,
Speaker 1: which is that, like a gay bar is better when
Speaker 1: it's owned by a lesbian, and a lesbian bar is better.
Speaker 3: When it's owned by a gay guy.
Speaker 2: I would even go.
Speaker 1: Some distance from the community and like really run it correctly.
Speaker 2: I would frankly go so far as to say a
Speaker 2: gay bar is better when it's owned by a woman
Speaker 2: of any sort, even a straight woman. True, true, And
Speaker 2: I will say, you know, Julius is owned by a
Speaker 2: straight woman, and she's a straight Greek woman, and so
Speaker 2: make of that way you will. That's the truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So shout out to all the lesbian questions. We
Speaker 1: appreciate them, and we will not be commenting further.
Speaker 2: But maybe in the future we will. We're not we
Speaker 2: know that our role is to comment on all LGBTQ plus,
Speaker 2: of course, but I think we were I think we
Speaker 2: are respectfully not making ourselves arbiters of lesbian culture.
Speaker 3: Yeah at this point, at this point, okay, next.
Speaker 8: Call, Hey, Sat and George.
Speaker 9: I had a question for y'all, how do y'all feel
Speaker 9: about Paris Hilton.
Speaker 10: I think that's all the contexts you need.
Speaker 7: Thanks.
Speaker 1: How do we feel about Paris Hilton? Well, I think
Speaker 1: I think we both agree on this one. H it
Speaker 1: was fun for a second.
Speaker 2: I think I say congratulations on all you've done mm hmmm,
Speaker 2: and goodbye for now. Next no, I would say forever. Actually,
Speaker 2: if I may be so bold, I would say thank
Speaker 2: you for everything you've contributed. Have fun living a private
Speaker 2: life from here on out.
Speaker 1: Do you know the like like carbon dating, like a
Speaker 1: like a half life where like how long it is.
Speaker 1: It's like there's like half as much carbon I feel
Speaker 1: like Paris Hilton's kind of that, Like like the first
Speaker 1: time around it was like, wow, this is so of
Speaker 1: the moment. So now she's so ye two Q. And
Speaker 1: then like now the reboot of Paris Hilton, it was
Speaker 1: like it had half as much juice and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like almost like it's fun, but it has half
Speaker 1: the impact, and it's like it's only going to keep deteriorating.
Speaker 1: Like I do think in ten more years she'll come
Speaker 1: back again and it'll be like a quarter of the original.
Speaker 2: I want to say, part of my current aversion to
Speaker 2: her has to do with the fact that, as listeners
Speaker 2: of the Patren know, I had a six month freelance
Speaker 2: job that was in Penn Station, and out of my
Speaker 2: window at work I could see this giant billboard for
Speaker 2: Hilton Hotels. They did a campaign with Paris Hilton. I
Speaker 2: don't know if this made it to Los Angeles or
Speaker 2: the state of California, but I did not recognize this
Speaker 2: big campaign featuring Paris Hilton. And now what we have
Speaker 2: here is reclaim. Paris Hilton has been canonized so much
Speaker 2: that she's no longer an embarrassment to the Hilton name
Speaker 2: and like a problem child. She's actually so mainstream pop
Speaker 2: culture that they are reappropriating her as like a positive,
Speaker 2: as a positive spokespirston for the Hilton family. And to that,
Speaker 2: I say, you know, please respect me as a consumer,
Speaker 2: like I can't, we can't be. You can't be selling
Speaker 2: back Paris Hilton to me in a Hilton ad and
Speaker 2: expecting me to then want to go and check into
Speaker 2: a Hilton Like.
Speaker 1: No, no enough, her doing that album last year, like
Speaker 1: it's like, we can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2: No all right? Onto Actually talented women in music with
Speaker 2: the next question.
Speaker 10: Hia, Sam George. I have recently become enamored of playing
Speaker 10: your little time game with any group of three things.
Speaker 10: But I simply think there has to be a better
Speaker 10: word than heim lick. Just so, I thought about the
Speaker 10: word geography, which I think is like books about saints,
Speaker 10: so like heimiography, writing about three sisters who say perhaps Anyway,
Speaker 10: my question is heimiography or heimlick. I guess, And I
Speaker 10: don't think you've done this before New York, LA, Chicago.
Speaker 10: And then also for my own purposes, the second tier
Speaker 10: of cities that cause lots of discourse Boston, San Francisco, DC.
Speaker 10: Me know what you think?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is amazing, what an amazing question.
Speaker 2: Amazing question. I what do you think about the name
Speaker 2: of the game? I just can't. I haven't got it.
Speaker 3: I'm like it rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're just taking with heimlick. Yeah, okay, all right, heimlick,
Speaker 2: New York, LA, Chicago.
Speaker 1: I almost think I think Danielle is Chicago because she's
Speaker 1: like like of the she's like of the earth, Like
Speaker 1: she's like she's like putting in the work. Yeah, He's
Speaker 1: like I'm here, like I'm the backbone. I think Alana
Speaker 1: is maybe LA because of being in movies, and you
Speaker 1: think ST is New York.
Speaker 2: Yes, why because she's like a West Village girl.
Speaker 3: A little.
Speaker 1: I think ST's got edge. I think ST's like, you know,
Speaker 1: she's She's not afraid to ruffle some feathers.
Speaker 2: I see see. I think my only argument against that
Speaker 2: would be Alana is an IT girl, which to me
Speaker 2: reads more in New York than LA. Like Alana to
Speaker 2: be amused for Paul Thomas Anderson. I know Paul Thomas
Speaker 2: Anderson is very LA, but but spiritually he feels very
Speaker 2: New York to me, like his vibe feels more in
Speaker 2: New York. And I think SD is just so at
Speaker 2: home in Silver Lake, floppy hat like well, plus she's blonde.
Speaker 2: Plus she's blonde. We don't have to agree, but I
Speaker 2: think that would be my that would be my point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we're getting I went to that party
Speaker 1: the other night where they were Djinghu and it's I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're one degree away from home.
Speaker 2: At least, or at most. Tell everyone what SD's first song.
Speaker 1: Was when she DJed girls Just Want to Have Fun,
Speaker 1: Classic Classic, It was fun?
Speaker 2: Is choosing that as your first song in your DJ set,
Speaker 2: more La or New York. I would say more La.
Speaker 3: It's more La. Yeah, you're right, You're right, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna agree with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right. I mean, Danielle being Chicago is
Speaker 2: obviously shocking, but I can't it's too late at this
Speaker 2: point to change that joints.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but what else could
Speaker 3: she be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's do Boston, San Francisco, DC. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: this is insane, This is really really challenging.
Speaker 3: I don't know, this is really challenging. Okay, daniel I'm like,
Speaker 3: none of them? Are any of them?
Speaker 2: Danielle is DC?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 2: I think Danielle is DC because she's like, again, she's CEO,
Speaker 2: she is Nancy Pelos, She's the Nancy Pelosi. She's like
Speaker 2: speaker of the house. She's the one that pulls the strings,
Speaker 2: she's the producer. I know they all produce, but hear me.
Speaker 3: Out is SD Boston?
Speaker 2: I think, oh god, you know, I think SD is
Speaker 2: like the coolest girl at BEU.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 2: And then I think Alana is Alana just left San
Speaker 2: Francisco for Oakland and lives in like a really cool
Speaker 2: neighborhood and goes to like a really queer friendly hairdresser
Speaker 2: that works at meta, but works at meta. Okay, next question.
Speaker 2: All right, this one is a.
Speaker 11: Big Sam and George big fan of the pod. So
Speaker 11: I often think about your theory of Lizzo's path and
Speaker 11: the different like career milestones where celebrities and creators have
Speaker 11: the option to make one choice or another, and I
Speaker 11: wanted to see if you guys have any thoughts on
Speaker 11: different crossroads that I feel like a lot of creators
Speaker 11: are running into nowadays, the social media where somebody who
Speaker 11: is beloved by like a group of fans who maybe
Speaker 11: have an identity that's like a little quirky, like a
Speaker 11: little indie, and then as the creator becomes more and
Speaker 11: more famous and commercially mainstream, all of a sudden, everyone
Speaker 11: all at once seems to find them really annoying and egotistical. Okay,
Speaker 11: I feel like Tycho y TD hit this point. I
Speaker 11: feel like Lyn Manuel hit this point, not even saying
Speaker 11: that I feel that these people turned cringey, but it
Speaker 11: does seem to be the general view that many have,
Speaker 11: and with the White Litis finale, it sort of looks
Speaker 11: like maybe Mike White is about to hit that point.
Speaker 11: So I was just wondering if this is a theory
Speaker 11: that you guys have any thoughts about, and kind of
Speaker 11: what would you call it? Along the same lines as
Speaker 11: like Lizzo's path, like is there a term for it?
Speaker 11: And maybe are there others that you can think of
Speaker 11: who have fallen victim to this decision point? Okay, thank
Speaker 11: you for making this thought probably a lot more eloquent
Speaker 11: than I did.
Speaker 3: Bye, guys, love you of all.
Speaker 1: Never say that you're not eloquent. You fucking crushed that
Speaker 1: you ate that that call was so to die for
Speaker 1: and well thought about. I immediately I think of like
Speaker 1: a Jennifer Lawrence for this type. I think of Anne Hathaway.
Speaker 1: I think I do think our society has a cruel
Speaker 1: way of building people up and then hating them for
Speaker 1: the reason they built them up in the first place.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's not fair.
Speaker 3: Why did you love them? Then? I don't know what
Speaker 3: I would call this this phenomenon.
Speaker 2: I think the Jennifer Lawrence thing is really uh apt. Yeah,
Speaker 2: It's like I'm trying to use j Law as a pun,
Speaker 2: like the Jaylaw.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, the Jay law, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like it's like, are you being
Speaker 2: cracked down by the J law? What I love that
Speaker 2: one would use for a law like I love.
Speaker 1: I'm also thinking of like there's something here's the phrase
Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, like expired quirk because it's
Speaker 1: like it is fresh.
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh I love this, I love this,
Speaker 3: and then something it goes bad, Like.
Speaker 2: You're right, that's exactly what it is. It's like his
Speaker 2: quirk expired.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just.
Speaker 2: Hearing this off the top of my head, Zovida Chanel
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: And I think she then went in a completely different
Speaker 2: direction because I think at some point she realized the
Speaker 2: quirk expired and was like, right, well then I'm just
Speaker 2: going to be kind of a normal woman.
Speaker 1: Well, and the thing with with this, I do think
Speaker 1: people know that one's quirk has an expiration date nowadays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think it's causing people to not have quirk.
Speaker 1: I think people like Mikey Madison is so like I
Speaker 1: am no personality, like I don't have one.
Speaker 2: Sure, but I don't think that's like a strategic move
Speaker 2: she's doing, and she's like hiding her quirks. I think
Speaker 2: that's simply who she is.
Speaker 3: I think she's hiding her quirk.
Speaker 2: Do you think she's hiding her quirk?
Speaker 3: I think she has quirks that she's hiding.
Speaker 2: That is fascinating. That is, you have an optimism that
Speaker 2: I wish I could have.
Speaker 3: You think she's just a plain girl.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's a plain girl. I think she
Speaker 2: is a terrific artist and actress. But I think she isn't.
Speaker 2: I don't think she has like a really strong personality
Speaker 2: because I think she's been acting her whole life, and
Speaker 2: that's her whole life, and that's who she is. I
Speaker 2: don't think she is a Jennifer Lawrence of a Zoe Deschanel,
Speaker 2: A you know, a Charlie XCX. Like I think she
Speaker 2: is just girl actor actor girl, actor girl. I have
Speaker 2: one that I actually think is fascinating, which is fran
Speaker 2: Lee Bowitz. Oh don't you think she It's like she
Speaker 2: flew too close to the sun. Her quirk didn't expire
Speaker 2: for generations, and then I think over the last couple
Speaker 2: of years, a new generation of consumers has come in
Speaker 2: and they're like, that's enough out of you.
Speaker 1: Well, there is something where like the mediums have changed
Speaker 1: so much where it's like everyone is friendly, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, so you're cranky. You're essentially doing
Speaker 1: front facing rants about like Starbucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're charging for them and you're at the
Speaker 2: ninety second Street why a big hall?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're supposed to treat you like you're better
Speaker 3: than like.
Speaker 2: That literally twing. It's like, yeah, how about actually sit
Speaker 2: down and write a book. I know you've had writer's
Speaker 2: block for sixty years, but it's that's sort of what
Speaker 2: it's going to take for me to pay money to
Speaker 2: engage with your work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is really interesting.
Speaker 2: Someone that's fascinating, and I wonder what you think of it?
Speaker 2: Like where are we with Charlie? Like how has her
Speaker 2: quirk not expired?
Speaker 3: She this it needs to be examined.
Speaker 2: She's like an evil genius.
Speaker 3: She is so good at it.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it's expired because she's like
Speaker 1: kind of refusing to be flat, Like she's like she
Speaker 1: could just be like I I'm just cocaine and sunglasses,
Speaker 1: but then like she sometimes will be like actually I'm
Speaker 1: not like I'm this now, and it's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't expect that, Like she she doesn't go two dimensional
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: No, it's true. And this is actually a larger issue
Speaker 2: with like what the right amount of branding is, because
Speaker 2: when you lead too much into one specific thing, it's
Speaker 2: gonna work for you in the beginning, because that's how
Speaker 2: the algorithm works. It rewards consistency and quantity over quality.
Speaker 2: But it will reach a point where it goes bad fast.
Speaker 2: It's like the experence. It's like how milk expires within
Speaker 2: It's like, it's good, it's good, it's good one morning,
Speaker 2: you wake up, you smell the bottle, not horrible. There
Speaker 2: are I think with some people, there are like mean
Speaker 2: and annoying people on the Internet that want you to
Speaker 2: believe someone's quirk has expired, and just because they're gay
Speaker 2: and confident doesn't mean they're right.
Speaker 3: I think that's really true, and I think.
Speaker 2: That's true with Lord. People really want you to convince
Speaker 2: you that her quirk is expired. Don't let them, don't.
Speaker 2: We are not going back, folks.
Speaker 1: We are here to support Lord through this album cycle.
Speaker 3: Her quirk has not expired.
Speaker 2: I don't care what her gender is. Yeah, we're listening.
Speaker 3: We're listening, we're learning.
Speaker 1: The thing is, people are like, oh, it's put on, Like,
Speaker 1: oh she's And I'm like, this girl has been weird.
Speaker 3: This girl has always been weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get into it.
Speaker 3: Like she's not cool.
Speaker 2: Do you think him's quirk expired when they first started
Speaker 2: doing the synchronized dance at the concerts.
Speaker 3: I think that's when it started to expire.
Speaker 1: But I think they've recognized that, and I think they're like,
Speaker 1: that's why they're going so hard right now. I think
Speaker 1: they're really being like, we'll show you we have a
Speaker 1: fresh batch of quirk totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all Louis at the time, and it's
Speaker 2: all Louis d AOC's.
Speaker 3: Quirk has expired, honestly, No, I agree.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I see like really really really left internet. That's
Speaker 1: like AOC should kill herself. And I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: what is going on? And then I'm always like this
Speaker 1: is so niche and like, yeah, it seems like a
Speaker 1: lot of anger for no reason sometimes, but maybe I'm uneducated,
Speaker 1: so we'll see.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the path is for Paul Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 3: I'm worried about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when a guy starts going sleeveless, we are on quirk.
Speaker 3: Watch Oh, we're sniffing the milk.
Speaker 2: Were the milk. We're saying, okay, maybe one more day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put it in my cereal, like I'll
Speaker 2: put it in my coffee, like, oh.
Speaker 3: Splash my coffee of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sniffing his milk for sure.
Speaker 2: Because I gotta tell you Andrew Scott when Sleeveless it
Speaker 2: expired fast.
Speaker 1: For Yeah, damn, I'm sort of obsessed with this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, and I'm praying for Pedro. I think
Speaker 1: he is so charming. I think he's so handsome.
Speaker 2: I want to say, you know, I for me, I
Speaker 2: was always like, not resistant, he seems great, but I
Speaker 2: was always like everyone is being a little too coordinated
Speaker 2: in their thirst for this man, like how about we
Speaker 2: all relax. But something switched to me the last week,
Speaker 2: and I am so ferial for him. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is. I'm like, I'm like, I have.
Speaker 3: To kiss him. Did you watch Game of Thrones?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 1: Because his character in that he is so sexy and
Speaker 1: like it's really incredible and like it's very much like
Speaker 1: he comes on the screen, You're like, who is that?
Speaker 3: Like I'm addicted. So he's the real deal. So I
Speaker 3: love this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, this is expired quirk. Sam. You know you
Speaker 2: coined Lizo's pass and you coined expired quirk, and this
Speaker 2: is your Your true talent is coining verbiage.
Speaker 3: I'll take it.
Speaker 2: Okay, next, Q oh, this is this is really good.
Speaker 12: I hate guys want to treat this is exciting. A
Speaker 12: long time listener, our first time caller, Patriista just sus
Speaker 12: we're just taping last week and with try to say hi. Anyways,
Speaker 12: I'm calling because.
Speaker 13: My husband and I have sort of a disagreement on
Speaker 13: something and I'm hoping you guys can help it out. Okay,
Speaker 13: I guess what we're wondering is what is the current
Speaker 13: state of the term f for hag? That is fag
Speaker 13: hag And I'm not going to say it because of,
Speaker 13: you know, the aforementioned uncertainty about whether or not I'm
Speaker 13: allowed to. I know policing language is lame now, but
Speaker 13: I still don't want to.
Speaker 12: Be saying things that I shouldn't be. I basically called
Speaker 12: them on this who you know kind of was but
Speaker 12: was like, you can't say that? What a good excuse
Speaker 12: to get our resolute.
Speaker 13: Gay guys on the horn.
Speaker 12: Now that I'm tokenizing you a little to conret my
Speaker 12: own toxic Anyways, it is what you are informed of,
Speaker 12: what you are allowed to say.
Speaker 13: I guess I will just add that my husband is
Speaker 13: a straight, sispet white man, and I am a you know,
Speaker 13: Sophie Rotten bisexual woman's period married to a.
Speaker 12: Man bars, So make that much you will.
Speaker 5: I love to.
Speaker 12: Invoke sam and say I'm not in a place where
Speaker 12: I want to be critique, but.
Speaker 13: I am leaving this voicemail.
Speaker 12: So I guess maybe I am. Please go easy. I
Speaker 12: love you guys very much. Who do you buy?
Speaker 3: Folks? Her husband's gone woke? What about Reddit?
Speaker 2: Reddit? Am I the asshole post? Like I parentheses F
Speaker 2: twenty seven bisexual bisexual? My husband has gone woke?
Speaker 1: So I think this is such an interesting First of all,
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in this dynamic. I do think this
Speaker 1: is a real It's very funny when like a straight
Speaker 1: cis white whatever man is like, hey, don't like he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be good, so like.
Speaker 3: Don't do that, like, don't say back haag. But I
Speaker 3: have to disagree.
Speaker 2: I think you're disagreeing with a woke husband.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I think women.
Speaker 1: I think, first of all, I think fag hag is
Speaker 1: a chic term that needs to come back.
Speaker 3: I think it is like a it's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a time honored tradition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we like can't erase it, like there's something
Speaker 1: like it's an important role is to be a fag hag.
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, I do think the way we like.
Speaker 1: I don't know where we stand on whether well.
Speaker 2: There's two things with back haag or not. There's where
Speaker 2: we stand on, like the concept of a haag haag,
Speaker 2: and there's where we stand on like the PC political
Speaker 2: correctness of the term fag hag. We've talked about the
Speaker 2: concept of fagag before because of course Matthew's theory is
Speaker 2: the fag hag is endangered because gay guys have more
Speaker 2: ways of meeting other gay guys now, so there's they
Speaker 2: have groups of friends that are all gay guys, and
Speaker 2: so there's less quote unquote need not to refer to
Speaker 2: friendship that way, for like a supportive woman who's going
Speaker 2: to take you to your first gay bar, who's going
Speaker 2: to like walk you through that breakup, who's going to
Speaker 2: go on like a friendship with you, because now suddenly
Speaker 2: you're going to han sho you are, you know, dealing
Speaker 2: with your breakup. I actually yeah, yeah, you're dealing with
Speaker 2: your breakup. I actually like fucking you're friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think.
Speaker 1: But when you meet like a like a certified fag
Speaker 1: hag where you're like, her deal is she loves gay
Speaker 1: guys and she like relates to gay guys in a
Speaker 1: deep way, I'm like, when I meet that person, I'm like, yes, like,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for your service.
Speaker 2: I can really agree, and I think.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound Republican, of course, but I
Speaker 1: am sort of like like you can say fag gag,
Speaker 1: Like it's like a you can say fagag.
Speaker 2: To be clear, my answer is you can say fag hag,
Speaker 2: and I'm not I don't really care. That's my personal
Speaker 2: I actually am more. This is a conversation that has
Speaker 2: been happening a lot, uh and I'm sure you have
Speaker 2: seen it. The debate over whether or not women saying
Speaker 2: twink is kind of a red flag, like are they
Speaker 2: using the word twink to basically say fag?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I actually am way more not offended, but I'm way
Speaker 2: more like bothered by the casual use of the word
Speaker 2: twink when what you really mean is gay guy. Than
Speaker 2: I am by the term fag hag that literally contains
Speaker 2: the slur in it.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: I think twink just to mean any gay guy is
Speaker 1: like literally uneducated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanna Okay, One thing I actually want to mention,
Speaker 2: I think there has been a rise in the get
Speaker 2: this the lesbian fag hag?
Speaker 7: M tell me.
Speaker 2: I have seen this a lot in New York recently.
Speaker 2: I've seen this in my friend groups. It'll be gay
Speaker 2: guy friend group. One woman and her vibe is she
Speaker 2: is a proud lesbian, has lesbian friends, like loves the
Speaker 2: queer community, but she is a partier in a way
Speaker 2: her lesbian friends can't keep up with. So she wants
Speaker 2: to go to the rave with the gay guys. Oh
Speaker 2: and I'm observing here. I'm saying, I'm seeing this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's rising.
Speaker 1: Well, I think this is an amazing, groundbreaking new type.
Speaker 2: Does this resonate with you at all?
Speaker 3: This is resonating with you?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like it is. It's like, and it's not. I'm not
Speaker 2: I really don't want to apply that this is some
Speaker 2: sort of self hating lesbian that like only wants to
Speaker 2: hang out with men. It's not that at all. It's
Speaker 2: that she literally just wants to go to the rave.
Speaker 1: Well, it is like gay guys have the market cornered
Speaker 1: on partying, yeah, and in a huge way. And it
Speaker 1: is like I think if you're a lesbian who wants
Speaker 1: to party, that's where you go.
Speaker 2: And it's like it's lesbians who love Lady Gaga, like
Speaker 2: who want to talk about Mayhem? Yeah, and they just
Speaker 2: they sorry, but like they do drugs.
Speaker 3: They want to do drugs.
Speaker 2: They want to do drugs.
Speaker 1: They want to literally do poppers, which I'm maybe it's
Speaker 1: because they're being taken away and you never know what
Speaker 1: you got till it's gone. I'm such a in a
Speaker 1: pro popper space, right, Oh really Yeah, I like think
Speaker 1: it's really funny to have on a dance floor. I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm like charmed by them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a different way.
Speaker 1: Somebody when we went to Palm Springs, one of our
Speaker 1: friends had like poppers and he had like a little
Speaker 1: nozzle that like you put on it that so it
Speaker 1: wouldn't spill, and then you could like put put it
Speaker 1: in your nose and it was so fun and we
Speaker 1: were like out of the bar, like doing poppers and.
Speaker 3: Then like we'd like OWD.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is so fun, well and why
Speaker 2: can't women enjoy that?
Speaker 3: And I think they should?
Speaker 2: So I really think that's a big and I and
Speaker 2: I think, I hate to say it, but that actually
Speaker 2: makes straight fag haggs even more endangered because it's like
Speaker 2: suddenly that they have to keep up with lesbians.
Speaker 3: Now they have to be gay.
Speaker 2: These girls have a husband and he's woke, and he's
Speaker 2: woke folks, Well, my husband's.
Speaker 1: Gone, whoa wait, I just very quickly.
Speaker 2: I really I love the phrasing of this call is
Speaker 2: so straight from a straighter lab listener. It's like this
Speaker 2: girl is just like she wants to She like wants
Speaker 2: to both be politically correct but also recognize that. Like
Speaker 2: I know we're all past this, but I used to
Speaker 2: feel like I should say my husband assists head. Uh yep,
Speaker 2: I'm bisexual. Okay, predictable, I know, but that's what I am. Like,
Speaker 2: It's like I recognize her stylist speaking so much because
Speaker 2: it's the exact way I speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like self awareness, like the limits of
Speaker 1: self awareness, where.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the the woke husband snake eating his own tail.
Speaker 3: I think if he keeps up this whole woke thing,
Speaker 3: he's gonna be suck in his own dick.
Speaker 2: God, bless God, blessed, I think. And I just want
Speaker 2: to say, I celebrate all fag.
Speaker 3: Hags and celebrate all fat eggs.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know when you can say it,
Speaker 1: And I think if you feel in your heart that
Speaker 1: you can say, you can say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's of course listen, it's coming from a
Speaker 2: place of love. Yes, Okay, we're skipping. Someone called in
Speaker 2: to tell us that they once served ted Dance and
Speaker 2: gaspacho and he really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.
Speaker 2: Someone is asking what my go to smoothie recipe is.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you not very interesting, just what I
Speaker 2: have in the fridge. Seven. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 10: Hey, you gorgeous guys. Question, Let Mary kill Nathan Fielder,
Speaker 10: Ira Glass and Michael Barbaro.
Speaker 3: Okay, bye, this is an amazing question.
Speaker 1: I want to have sex with Michael Barbaro.
Speaker 2: That is crazy.
Speaker 3: I think I would.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately have to kill Nathan Fielder just because I think
Speaker 1: being married to him would be really difficult, totally, and
Speaker 1: so I guess by default. I'm marrying Ira Glass, which
Speaker 1: sounds like a really nice stable life, and I think
Speaker 1: we'd have a nice home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and fuck Nathan Fielder Mary
Speaker 2: Ira Glass kill Michael Barbaro.
Speaker 3: Wow, look at us. You don't want to have sex
Speaker 3: with Michael Barbaro. I don't. Here's what else you need
Speaker 3: to know today.
Speaker 2: I actually have really, uh, I really have moved on
Speaker 2: to different white male news podcasters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't really listen to The Daily anymore,
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's still something about him.
Speaker 2: Yep. Have you've seen the photo of him on the
Speaker 2: yellow couch?
Speaker 3: Right? Of course?
Speaker 2: I mean that's legendary, legend. Okay, next call hi gay guys.
Speaker 14: This is Juliana. I'm calling with more of an alert
Speaker 14: than a question. But since the prominence of context queen,
Speaker 14: my friend has invented a little extenditure of that, which
Speaker 14: is the context pill. And when someone needs a context
Speaker 14: till they need to be given context, they are willfully
Speaker 14: without context, but they also typically don't want to take
Speaker 14: a context pill. So we'll be like, she needs a
Speaker 14: context till we need to huy the context hill, and
Speaker 14: he says he needs to get her to get contact.
Speaker 14: Love your thoughts on that as a praise and as always.
Speaker 2: Love, Wait, Sam, I do want you because again this
Speaker 2: is your big talent of coining verbiage. I want you
Speaker 2: very quickly to talk about the context Diva and what
Speaker 2: she is.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Context Diva was something from our San Francisco show from
Speaker 1: SF sketch Fest, where we were we were like asking
Speaker 1: for more context, and anytime we would say something and
Speaker 1: trying to clarify the context, we would point to one
Speaker 1: person and be like, you're the context queen, You're the
Speaker 1: context Diva.
Speaker 2: And she started, she like started yelling out context. Remember, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 3: That's it, that's it, and we were like, context Diva, right.
Speaker 2: She always knew the context for something, and.
Speaker 3: She being a public notary.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly right. So she was the context Diva.
Speaker 2: Then we got into this whole thing about how like
Speaker 2: there should be a democratically elected context Diva, Like it
Speaker 2: should be a cabinet position. It's someone whose job it
Speaker 2: is when context is lacking to pipe up and give context.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I love the idea of a context pill.
Speaker 1: I really like that is so funny and I very
Speaker 1: much understand how how bitter. A context pill can taste
Speaker 1: like put it in peanut butter for me, because when
Speaker 1: I don't know context and it actually like undermines what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's gonna hurt a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I actually think there's another issue in our society,
Speaker 2: which is that often we're actually over prescribed context pills.
Speaker 2: And that happens when someone it's like your friend who's
Speaker 2: too woke, you know what I mean. It's like me saying, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm entering the house and then someone being like, you know,
Speaker 2: some people can't enter.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're being so correct right now. That's
Speaker 1: so smart.
Speaker 2: And it's like to say that sometimes we're overprescribed the
Speaker 2: context pill. Doesn't mean we're against the context pill. It
Speaker 2: means there is like a time and a place for it.
Speaker 3: It means talk to your doctor.
Speaker 2: It means talk to your doctor to find out if
Speaker 2: the context pill is right for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you might be on too high of a dosage.
Speaker 2: And it does get to a point where, if you're
Speaker 2: on too high of a dosage, you become paralyzed because
Speaker 2: all you can see is context and not the thing
Speaker 2: at hand. You cannot you literally can't see the forest.
Speaker 1: For the trees literally, and honey, it gets so hard
Speaker 1: to come.
Speaker 2: No, the context I really love. I really love the
Speaker 2: idea of the context pill. And I'm actually smelling merch.
Speaker 1: This episode is really making you be like, damn, we
Speaker 1: do have a lot of phrases. I know, we are
Speaker 1: one of those podcasts that comes up with a lot
Speaker 1: of phrases.
Speaker 2: And they're endlessly generative.
Speaker 1: Well, they actually are really helpful frameworks to see the world.
Speaker 2: Well, are again our main job is creating frameworks, of course,
Speaker 2: that is those are our roots. It is creating theoretical
Speaker 2: frameworks that you can apply to anything in your life.
Speaker 3: If we aren't creating frameworks, we're dead.
Speaker 2: Literally, So take that context pill. Okay, let's see. Okay,
Speaker 2: our minions gey straight? And is HBO Max changing its
Speaker 2: name gear straight? Quickly?
Speaker 1: Go Minions, I'm gonna say gay, and HBO Max I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say that's very I think it's straight.
Speaker 2: Actually, really, you think Hbox changing his name back and
Speaker 2: forth is straight?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think it's like sort of not being
Speaker 1: able to commit. It's being like like, oh I I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy, Like it's it's very Demi Levado being
Speaker 1: like I'm they them and then meaning actually, never mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if HBO Max was actually queer, it would change
Speaker 2: its name to Esmeralda and everyone would respect that. Okay,
Speaker 2: next question, Hi, George and Sam.
Speaker 15: I was curious, what percentage of guests that you have
Speaker 15: on have y'all slept with?
Speaker 2: And let me say something about this context Eva. You
Speaker 2: know she's saying fag hag and she should and she should.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, this is an amazing, amazing question, and it's
Speaker 1: so juicy that I just was like, well, we at
Speaker 1: least have to play it. I'm now scrolling through the
Speaker 1: list of our guests just to see.
Speaker 2: I believe my count is I don't know percentage, but
Speaker 2: I believe my count is three. Really, and I'm I'm
Speaker 2: using sleep with pretty liberally. I would say anything that
Speaker 2: I would describe as like a hookup.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling.
Speaker 3: I have one, so let's start there. That's good.
Speaker 1: As I'm scrolling, I'm trying to think who your three are. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling, scrolling. What if I only have one?
Speaker 1: How pitiful little loser?
Speaker 2: I'm texting you my three.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Counting that second one is a stretched account. But you
Speaker 2: can also count that one.
Speaker 3: I've traded news with one.
Speaker 2: Oh, if we're going, we're going to We're gonna have
Speaker 2: to We're gonna have to take a different context bill.
Speaker 3: Okay, I literally think mine is just one still scrolling?
Speaker 2: Is it the one we share?
Speaker 1: No, so I guess that's two. But we didn't really
Speaker 1: hook up. I feel we made out.
Speaker 2: That will say. Oh, that's why I'm saying it's a
Speaker 2: stretch to count that one.
Speaker 3: Okay, then in that case, then.
Speaker 2: You have two and I have three. We're using we're
Speaker 2: using the queer definition. We're making out counts.
Speaker 1: We're making out counts. Okay, just double triple checking because
Speaker 1: honesty is so important. We have a lot of people
Speaker 1: i'd like to hook up with. Oh wait, nope, that
Speaker 1: one counts. So now I'm at three.
Speaker 2: Wait, send them to me. All right, let's actually think
Speaker 2: we have to move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but fukay three, we both have three.
Speaker 2: We both have three. That's really amazing.
Speaker 3: That's really awesome.
Speaker 2: And only one overlap, and only one overlap, and that
Speaker 2: overlap is the least sexual.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one that's a stretch for both of us.
Speaker 2: It's a stretch for both of us.
Speaker 9: Okay, Hi Sama and George, This Danny and Peter. A
Speaker 9: question that we have is, in the year eight hundred,
Speaker 9: what would your role be in the village. A couple
Speaker 9: of the answers that we've had before is taste tester
Speaker 9: for the king. Our friend has Celiac's disease and is
Speaker 9: constantly shooting his pants, so everybody thinks he's poisoning.
Speaker 7: We've also had poop Catcher.
Speaker 3: Both poop related. I'm picking up on a theme. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, ideally I would be sort of a prince. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would be unemployed for the for the most part.
Speaker 1: I'd have a wife, but I would of course hook
Speaker 1: up with my the man who addressed me every morning.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And that's pretty much my deal.
Speaker 2: So you're why you want to be a prince.
Speaker 3: I think I'm prince, Okay, because I'm either prince or I'm.
Speaker 1: Dead, Like, I don't have the the chutzpah to you know,
Speaker 1: drive in this type of environment.
Speaker 2: I believe ultimately I would be you know, I would
Speaker 2: be a columnist. I think that I would be trying
Speaker 2: to put together like a zine, you know, on papyrus
Speaker 2: or raw or stones or whatever was available. And I
Speaker 2: think I would not be good enough at not making
Speaker 2: the right enemy or at not making the wrong enemies.
Speaker 2: And I think I'd be like really successful for two
Speaker 2: years and then I would get murdered, Like I would
Speaker 2: get executed basically in the town square.
Speaker 1: Well, that would be fun. I would definitely show up
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would also be like really obsessed with being upwardly mobile,
Speaker 2: but it's like that's not possible in these times. I
Speaker 2: would think I'd be the first one to live the
Speaker 2: American dream in the year eight hundred. Okay, next question.
Speaker 3: This is a groundbreaking episode.
Speaker 11: Hi, Divas. I was wondering if you've been to the
Speaker 11: news gay bar Playhouse, and if you have.
Speaker 2: A review, say Trudi bye, So you haven't, I have not.
Speaker 3: This is a new gay bar.
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't realize it was new. I mean I
Speaker 2: went like two years ago. Am I crazy? Hold on,
Speaker 2: I'm looking this up. I'm looking this up Playhouse, New
Speaker 2: York City. Well, regardless of whether it's you or not,
Speaker 2: I have been once with Josh Sharp and I had
Speaker 2: the time of my damn life. Our dear friend Izzy
Speaker 2: Uncutt was performing. She absolutely ate down. It was like
Speaker 2: the perfect level of crowded. It's a cute space. I
Speaker 2: thought the crowd was fun. Ultimately, it's not like where
Speaker 2: I want to go every Friday night. I would say
Speaker 2: it exists in this midway point between, Like on the
Speaker 2: one end you have something like Julius, which is so
Speaker 2: vintage and cool that it's like it will never be lame.
Speaker 2: And then on the other end you have like a
Speaker 2: Marie Crisis, which is so a musical theater and old
Speaker 2: queen and piano that it's like camp. Yeah, Playhouse is
Speaker 2: like in the middle, so it kind of could go
Speaker 2: either way. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: It's not like cool enough to be cool, but it's
Speaker 2: not uh like embarrassing enough to be reclaimed.
Speaker 3: Would you say it's Philly?
Speaker 2: It is Philly?
Speaker 3: Okay, Playhouse is Philly.
Speaker 2: But I again, I had a really great time there
Speaker 2: and I and I would go back, and in fact,
Speaker 2: I now want to go back.
Speaker 3: I went to the most Philly restaurant this morning.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what was it?
Speaker 7: It was?
Speaker 1: It's called like La mill or something, but it was
Speaker 1: like the deck core was like where did you find this?
Speaker 1: Like it was like a weird like I was in
Speaker 1: the mall or like a bank lobby or something.
Speaker 2: Well, there's like no time for this, but you know,
Speaker 2: I just got back from Denver.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, we.
Speaker 2: Actually need to discuss this. Maybe we'll discuss on patron
Speaker 2: but so fans might remember our second episode ever, that
Speaker 2: topic was Denver. Max's topic was Denver his straight topic.
Speaker 2: Obviously at that time we would never actually talk about
Speaker 2: the straight topic. So if you go back, you're not
Speaker 2: going to find any insights about the city of Denver.
Speaker 2: But as a straight topic, it was so perfectly chosen
Speaker 2: because it really is the most heterosexual city I've ever
Speaker 2: been to. Wow, it is like everything you think of
Speaker 2: as kind of twenty tens gentrification chic, like the beer hall,
Speaker 2: the converted warehouse, the coffee shop that is a refurbished
Speaker 2: storage unit, you know what I mean. Like the giant
Speaker 2: market hall that has a bunch of different food courts
Speaker 2: in it. Like that is the entire city. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Sometimes in a place like that it can be a
Speaker 1: little bit erotic because you're like, this is so straight.
Speaker 1: There must be like a CD underground, Like people are
Speaker 1: like hooking up total fly? Did you feel any like
Speaker 1: CD Undertone? Did you pop on the Sniffies or something?
Speaker 2: I should have? I mean I didn't because there was
Speaker 2: literally no way it would have. I was there with
Speaker 2: two friends and we were there for like forty eight hours,
Speaker 2: and like sure, sure I was not going to hook up,
Speaker 2: and so I didn't. I I will say my feelings
Speaker 2: about the city aside. I loved the people, Like everyone
Speaker 2: you it was this weird thing where everything seemed so bland,
Speaker 2: but then the food was great, the people were nice,
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like other cities which I won't name,
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh my god, like get me out
Speaker 2: of here. Why is nothing working? Like why can't I
Speaker 2: go to a coffee shop and get a croissant? Like
Speaker 2: everywhere we went like it was good because again it's
Speaker 2: like it's this gentrification vibe, like it's like getting new
Speaker 2: blood to the area, getting the coffee shops, getting the
Speaker 2: concert venues. Like it was good where it needed to be.
Speaker 2: But then you couldn't take a walk.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, don't whatever, don't get mad at me. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, well here's here's one. Here's here's one.
Speaker 3: Oh, and here's one for Heyday guys.
Speaker 8: Wanted to call in and see what you guys think
Speaker 8: about bald guys, Bald gay guys in particular. I recently
Speaker 8: gave in and shaved.
Speaker 7: My head and.
Speaker 8: I am having a hard time addressing to it. But
Speaker 8: I think it looks good overall. So just when you
Speaker 8: think about twenty nine year old gay men who are bald,
Speaker 8: do people respect me? I think it looks good, but
Speaker 8: I want to know what you think, especially George as
Speaker 8: somebody with great hair that goes for the buzz cut
Speaker 8: and why love you guys?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: I think bald is very hot. I think it's complex,
Speaker 1: of course, because it's like losing one's hair is always
Speaker 1: like jarring because you're like, but like when you meet
Speaker 1: someone who is bald, you like don't know them from
Speaker 1: having hair, and so you're like, you look great, like,
Speaker 1: but I see the losing can be traumatic and weird.
Speaker 2: It's like one of those things like height that it's like,
Speaker 2: no matter where we are in acceptance, it's going to
Speaker 2: be an internalized stigma.
Speaker 1: It's also because of like drugs and stuff that are
Speaker 1: now like make it possible to have it be a
Speaker 1: little more optional. It is like it's we're in an
Speaker 1: interesting place with it where it's like do you like fight,
Speaker 1: do you fight like hell and be like I'm going
Speaker 1: to keep my hair out all costs or are you
Speaker 1: like like it is sort of like I'm I'm going
Speaker 1: to be a bald guy. Like there's something of like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that now.
Speaker 3: That is it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I like they're almost like bald guys are almost like
Speaker 1: going extinct in a way. Like you watch shows from
Speaker 1: like the nineties and you're like, like main characters are bald,
Speaker 1: whereas like now if you watch a show there, they
Speaker 1: ain't having a bald guy on TV.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think it's as you said, it's actually
Speaker 2: this is related to spin drift. I think you I
Speaker 2: think you can have a fully bald man on TV,
Speaker 2: and you can have a fully not bald man on TV.
Speaker 2: What you don't get anywhere that you got in the
Speaker 2: seventies and eighties is a balding man like just fully
Speaker 2: you know, again someone who like has less hair on
Speaker 2: top because he is in the process of balding. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that at some point was it was decided that that
Speaker 2: was not allowed to be on.
Speaker 3: Screen, Yeah, it's annoying. I also, I find a bald
Speaker 3: spot to be very hot.
Speaker 2: It's like so masculine to me, totally, totally, it's very masculine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's funny because people think of balding like the stigma
Speaker 2: is that it's somehow emasculating, when in fact it is
Speaker 2: the most masculine thing you can have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very sexy.
Speaker 2: You know, one of my big crushes, Corey Stole, is bald.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true, I will say on a personal level,
Speaker 2: because I grew up with a bald dad. My dad
Speaker 2: has been fully bald since he was like twenty five,
Speaker 2: like legitimately, like I haven't even seen like maybe he
Speaker 2: was balding in his early twenties, but like as far
Speaker 2: back as photos go, especially photos with me being alive,
Speaker 2: he is fully bald. And so it is difficult not
Speaker 2: to associate boldness with my dad, which then makes it
Speaker 2: challenging on a sexual attraction level. Sure, I mean that's interesting,
Speaker 2: and it's like like I'm like, what is that the
Speaker 2: equivalent for you?
Speaker 1: I don't know, You're like the opposite of Freud, Like
Speaker 1: I know, literally you should like kind of find it
Speaker 1: more hot.
Speaker 2: I know it's and I guess I go back and forth.
Speaker 2: It's not like I don't it's not like I don't
Speaker 2: find it hot, but I but there is just something.
Speaker 2: And it was also always such a joke, like he
Speaker 2: was always so self deprecating about it was always like
Speaker 2: a thing that he was bald. It was like, you know,
Speaker 2: he'd go to the you know, because he has hair
Speaker 2: like in the back of his head. He would like
Speaker 2: go get a haircut and be like, I need a haircut,
Speaker 2: and my mom would be like, do you like where
Speaker 2: like show show me where they're gonna cut their you know.
Speaker 2: It was such a such an ongoing joke. It's like
Speaker 2: if like you have like a fat and all the
Speaker 2: jokes are about how he's fat or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's a It is.
Speaker 3: One of the it's a tough one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But to answer this listener's question, like, no one is
Speaker 2: thinking no, there's no one that's being like, oh god,
Speaker 2: he's bald.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what weld is in?
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about your hair journey with
Speaker 1: since he oh, yes, the buzz cut.
Speaker 2: So, first of all, I actually do have great hair objectively,
Speaker 2: but because it is so unwieldy and thick. It's sort
Speaker 2: of like it looks like politician hair when it grows out,
Speaker 2: like I look like Rob Lagoyevitch. Like it's just very
Speaker 2: like thick. It like grows out in all directions. And
Speaker 2: I've just never been good at taking care of it
Speaker 2: or knowing what product you use, or knowing like where
Speaker 2: to go to get a good haircut. And I actually
Speaker 2: think I look fine with a buzzed head, Like I
Speaker 2: genuinely like how I look, and so it just is easier,
Speaker 2: it's cheaper and like I don't have to think about it,
Speaker 2: and that's sort of my But then occasionally, honestly, I
Speaker 2: was thinking about this when I was looking at recent
Speaker 2: photos of Pedro Bescal, who I do think has potentially
Speaker 2: opted to not be bald. But I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: he has some great hair, Like maybe I should grow
Speaker 2: my hair out and have like a nice little.
Speaker 3: Poof If anyone could figure it out, it's you.
Speaker 2: Oh stop, But anyway, that's my journey. Yeah, okay, let's
Speaker 2: do a last call.
Speaker 7: And was what is from Alaska?
Speaker 15: I was actually dead for this weekend, and I saw
Speaker 15: George that you were here too, And my brother went
Speaker 15: the same rock show, and I was having heared to you, but.
Speaker 7: He did not.
Speaker 15: My question is like, what's to do with taking shirt
Speaker 15: off in the clubs like the gay bar, the gig club?
Speaker 7: Right, Like, what is that?
Speaker 15: It's last Friday. I was at xbar and.
Speaker 7: It seems there was a group of.
Speaker 15: Guys being kind of rowdy with their shirts off, and
Speaker 15: I was kind of watching them, like they are straight
Speaker 15: guys will take their shirts off because their outfits are
Speaker 15: just too immaculate, Like what's going on there?
Speaker 7: All right? Thank you guys, love you.
Speaker 2: So this is like a really confusing call.
Speaker 3: I have to say, I'm mostly confused.
Speaker 2: I think we can answer it.
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna take We're gonna make our own questions.
Speaker 2: We're going to make our own question. I also think
Speaker 2: I maybe can't hear part of what he's saying at
Speaker 2: the end, because I'm like I was right there with him.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, we're answering a question about why gay
Speaker 2: guys take their shirts off at the bars. But then
Speaker 2: he was like, I was at acbar and straight guys
Speaker 2: took their shirts off at the bar.
Speaker 3: Did he say he's at acbar?
Speaker 2: I thought he did.
Speaker 3: Hold on, but he's from Alaska.
Speaker 15: Friday, I was at xbar and.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was at X bar. He is censoring
Speaker 2: the name of the bar. He was not at acturate.
Speaker 3: Got it, got it? Got it?
Speaker 2: So all right, Sam, Actually I would like you to
Speaker 2: take this.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna discuss vaguely what it means to take
Speaker 1: your shirt off at a bar.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I have a really complex relationship with it because
Speaker 1: I actually find it fun and such a like like
Speaker 1: gay tradition to be like we're all shirtless dancing.
Speaker 3: That is so.
Speaker 1: Fun and throwback. But then it does get into like
Speaker 1: toxic territory very quickly, where then you're like seeing all
Speaker 1: these bodies and all the bodies are like the same,
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, now I feel gross, Like now
Speaker 1: I feel the competition.
Speaker 3: Now I feel the like self.
Speaker 1: Consciousness and like in a way where I'm like it's
Speaker 1: supposed to feel like wow, like bodies on bodies on bodies,
Speaker 1: and said, it's like it like almost gets like militaristic
Speaker 1: and like unsexy. So I I personally am like very
Speaker 1: torn on whether or not to take my shirt off
Speaker 1: at a bar. I think, like, so there's this party,
Speaker 1: the summer party, here in La called Bears and Space,
Speaker 1: which is so to die for, And it happens like
Speaker 1: once a month in the summer at in the Acbar
Speaker 1: parking lot, and that's a really fun like everyone takes
Speaker 1: their shirts off because it's hot out and it's like
Speaker 1: a summer daytime party and it's like but it's all
Speaker 1: different types of bodies and it's not like.
Speaker 3: A circuit party.
Speaker 1: It's just sort of like mingling with that loud music
Speaker 1: with your shirt off, and it's like fun, and so
Speaker 1: that one feels like more ethical, but then the other one,
Speaker 1: Like I've been at parties where it's like like I
Speaker 1: had my shirt off and then I saw the other
Speaker 1: types of people that had their shirt off and they
Speaker 1: had those muscle muscle bodies, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I hate this. I don't want to be associated with them.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's how I feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's sort of it's almost if you
Speaker 2: zoom out a little bit, it's almost like you can
Speaker 2: appreciate it as just like an encapsulation of the gay
Speaker 2: guy experience where you're like this push and pull between
Speaker 2: feeling liberated and feeling completely insecure and marginalized is like
Speaker 2: that is just the day to day experience of being
Speaker 2: in community with gay men, and I think oftentimes people
Speaker 2: focus on only one of those elements. It's like either
Speaker 2: the story is that you persevered and you self actualized,
Speaker 2: or the story is like, oh God, poor me, I'm
Speaker 2: not the thing that I'm supposed to be, and so
Speaker 2: I don't fit into this community. And I unfortunately think
Speaker 2: anywhere you are and no matter what you're like different
Speaker 2: subidentity is it just is part of the experience of
Speaker 2: being gay to feel both, because the thing you realize
Speaker 2: as you meet these muscle guys is they are the
Speaker 2: most insecure of all and that's yeah, not all of them,
Speaker 2: but many of them. That is why in fact they
Speaker 2: are so like they work so hard, and they plan
Speaker 2: often their entire life around looking a certain way.
Speaker 3: You know what, I will say, I always have fun at.
Speaker 1: I would say an underwear party. I actually find sort
Speaker 1: of the proper level of silly. I find that an
Speaker 1: underwear party has like more humility than a shirtless party,
Speaker 1: whereas like shirtless is sort of like you're just like,
Speaker 1: look at my muscles sometimes, and then underwear party is
Speaker 1: more like this is kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 3: Like we're all in our underwear like this.
Speaker 2: I disagree. Really yeah, I think underwear underwear stresses me
Speaker 2: out more. I don't like I really don't honestly don't
Speaker 2: like wearing a drop strap, and like there's just something
Speaker 2: I would much rather. And also, if you're the only
Speaker 2: one not in his underwear and underwear party, you stick
Speaker 2: out way more than if you're the only one in
Speaker 2: like a T shirt at a shirtless party. And I'm
Speaker 2: sort of like, if I go into a shirtless party,
Speaker 2: depending on how good I feel, depending on how what
Speaker 2: my mood is, maybe I can take my shirt off,
Speaker 2: maybe I can keep it on. Maybe I can like
Speaker 2: sort of have like a little fanny pack over my
Speaker 2: over my torso and then be halfway through, halfway there.
Speaker 2: But like, there is something I feel trapped in an
Speaker 2: underwear party.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I feel so settled in.
Speaker 1: There's something where I'm like, we're all, we have to
Speaker 1: we're all it's like mutually just it's mutual destruction. Is
Speaker 1: that that thing where you're like we're all the same
Speaker 1: level of like embarrassed right now?
Speaker 2: I guess I see, I see what you're saying. But
Speaker 2: I think if everyone agreed that that would be the vibe,
Speaker 2: then I would like it. But then you see people
Speaker 2: that have like laser eyes and they're like so jeed
Speaker 2: out and like looking for something specific, and you're like,
Speaker 2: oh no, why can't why are you not being fun?
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good points.
Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, it's interesting. I want to just briefly touch
Speaker 2: on the idea that straight guys take their shirts off
Speaker 2: and gay guys don't, because I understand I think I
Speaker 2: understand the vibe this person is going for, which is
Speaker 2: like almost like a tailgate adjacent, like guy that's like
Speaker 2: come on and then like rips his shirt off, like
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. But my answer to that would
Speaker 2: just be I promise you gay guys are taking their
Speaker 2: shirts off as well.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go ahead and be taking their shirts off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say when I was in college, my straight
Speaker 1: guy friend group, we would famous we would take our
Speaker 1: shirts off all the time at parties because we thought
Speaker 1: it was funny.
Speaker 3: And it was kind of crazy. In retrospect, it was weird.
Speaker 2: Wow, this is making me excited for summer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, summer. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I had a pool day and it was to die for.
Speaker 1: I got that summer feeling.
Speaker 2: Did you have a pool day at your pool or
Speaker 2: someone else. Yeah, damn. And you know I had people
Speaker 2: over for your vision. Both had things. I was like.
Speaker 2: I was like, actually, someone was like, you guys talk
Speaker 2: about your vision. I was like, damn, next year, maybe
Speaker 2: I'll make Sam watch and then we can talk.
Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm ready to watch.
Speaker 2: But uh no, I when you were talking to me
Speaker 2: last week about how you're gonna have people over at
Speaker 2: your pool, I was so jealous. What did you did?
Speaker 2: You end up doing gay guys, mixed.
Speaker 3: Co workers, very very small list of gay.
Speaker 2: Coworkers okay, interesting.
Speaker 1: And and then like random gay guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, so gay guys.
Speaker 1: But but I didn't go like I didn't go very
Speaker 1: wide with it, like and I didn't go like comedy
Speaker 1: with it. I went like just like gay guys totally.
Speaker 1: But it was it was it was really fun.
Speaker 2: And actually I did that. So when I had people
Speaker 2: are for your vision, Josh was the only comedian, and wow,
Speaker 2: if you can believe them.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love comedians. Let's start there.
Speaker 2: Let's start there.
Speaker 1: But it is the way they socialize is like frantic
Speaker 1: and like all the wrong instincts.
Speaker 2: Like also, it makes me not be at my best sometimes.
Speaker 1: Too, I completely join in. I'm like yeah, like I'm
Speaker 1: Comedians love to.
Speaker 3: Gather where they're not supposed to.
Speaker 1: They love to like just be in like the doorway
Speaker 1: of the entrance, and it's like, no, come have be
Speaker 1: part of this.
Speaker 3: You're part of this. It's so crazy.
Speaker 2: They're always they always have to be in the core.
Speaker 2: They always have to be in the minority. They have
Speaker 2: to be in a corner observing. Yeah, and they are
Speaker 2: never actually part of the space that they're in. They
Speaker 2: are always friendly bowits.
Speaker 3: They are literally the kids at an adult party at
Speaker 3: all times.
Speaker 1: One hundred have to give them their own table. They
Speaker 1: need their own room, like sometimes they need like their
Speaker 1: own drink station.
Speaker 3: It is like, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing, and of course it's also beautiful because it
Speaker 2: we you know, it gives you an excuse to be
Speaker 2: a child forever.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, never forget your Christmas party where we all live.
Speaker 2: That literally a whole room that was just the comedians
Speaker 2: and everyone else was just it at a normal holiday party.
Speaker 3: That was so funny.
Speaker 2: Arguably also happened at my wedding.
Speaker 3: That's true. That is true.
Speaker 1: And they have a way of making you feel like
Speaker 1: you're missing out, Like when I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: talking to your parents out of.
Speaker 3: The corner of my eye.
Speaker 1: See all the comedian's not gonna go oh my by
Speaker 1: they're having so much fun. I'm a fucking loser over here.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Wow this episode was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, start to finish, I think I'm gonna be thinking
Speaker 1: about expired quirk a lot expire quirk a context pill,
Speaker 1: context Pill, Denver.
Speaker 2: Denver, Which time sister is Boston, San Francisco or DC.
Speaker 2: A rural lesbian calling us to ask her what she
Speaker 2: should know about culture?
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: I mean the fag hag discussion. I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: one of our best calling shows in forever.
Speaker 1: And reminder, you can always call in at three eight
Speaker 1: five gay guys and leave a voicemail and we're gonna
Speaker 1: do these intermittently.
Speaker 2: So and we yes, and we do them on the
Speaker 2: Patreon even more frequently. So you can always join that
Speaker 2: by going to patreon dot com slash stradio lab.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say thanks for listening, and.
Speaker 2: I want to agree. I want to agree with Sam
Speaker 2: in his gratitude for your listenership.
Speaker 1: And uh, I feel like we I keep going to
Speaker 1: be like, like, I have this urge to say so something, yeah,
Speaker 1: be like and check us out.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, we don't actually have anything to announce.
Speaker 2: Yeah yet, but we will, but we will. And I
Speaker 2: just want to say, have a great summer.
Speaker 3: Seriously, you guys, it's here. It's pretty much here. And George,
Speaker 3: have an amazing time in Italy.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and hope that your flight's an amazing time.
Speaker 2: Cleaning your room.
Speaker 7: My room.
Speaker 3: My room is the dirtiest it's ever been. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh that's gonna.
Speaker 2: Hurt when we go on tour. I'm giving you a deadline.
Speaker 2: You gotta have tsa pre check before we leave for tour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta figure that.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 1: I about to be unemployed, so I'll have a lot
Speaker 1: of time to figure it out.
Speaker 2: I literally procrastinated on it for a full ten years
Speaker 2: of my life. Got global entry, which includes pre check.
Speaker 2: I just traveled to Denver use it for the first
Speaker 2: time to not feel like cattle, to just like it's
Speaker 2: like I'm costplaying nineteen ninety seven pre nine to eleven
Speaker 2: airport experience.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. I can't imagine what that's like it's nuts.
Speaker 1: Even at JFK, I feel like there's no way to
Speaker 1: not feel like cattle there.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you're all kind of feeling like cattle,
Speaker 2: but you're definitely feeling like upper middle class cattle.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'll take it. I'm a prize pig.
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