WEBVTT - Surprise Call-In Show!

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast starts now. Hello everyone, and welcome to Stradio Lab.

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<v Speaker 1>We are coming at you by coastally once again after

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<v Speaker 1>our string of hit recordings in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>We are coming at you by coastally on a beautiful Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am leaving for it, Dahlia tomorrow. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>on a vacation, as is my birthright. You're allowed as

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<v Speaker 2>a gay man based in ban I actually have a

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<v Speaker 2>message to the Spin Drift team, and I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>this is disgusting, y'all. What do better? Which one all

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<v Speaker 2>spin drift? Not all spin enough? No we have I

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it anymore. Either something is a seltzer, or

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<v Speaker 2>it is a juice, or it is a mocktail, or

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<v Speaker 2>it is a cocktail. This weird. They are being so

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<v Speaker 2>toxic in wanting to have it all, and I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not disagree with you more. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need more innovation in the drink space. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously so much space between juice and soda and water,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are finding that space and they're exploring it

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that is like thank you, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny to me. I'm like all the obviously

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<v Speaker 2>defined things, whether it's a coke, a seltzer, a water

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<v Speaker 2>like I would always rather have that than something that

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<v Speaker 2>is somewhere in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you had the blue one, the lemon one?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not had the lemon one. But once again,

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<v Speaker 2>take a seltzer, take a lemon, squeeze some of it

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<v Speaker 2>in there. Mix, mix, mix, Maybe we're talking a mint leaf.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, not all of us can get back to me

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<v Speaker 1>a fresh garden in our damn apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>Sign up for sign up for uh farm to people?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it called? There is a service so you

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<v Speaker 2>can sign up for a few live in New York

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<v Speaker 2>City farm to people. I believe it's called get some

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<v Speaker 2>fresh herbs, stick them right in the glass, ice lemon,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little lime, seltzer, put a little straw in there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to party.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>They are always innovating with new delivery services over there,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't they.

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<v Speaker 2>They certainly are. I just yeah, I really, I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>sorry if they're an advertiser. And I actually bet you

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<v Speaker 2>that the people that work at spin Drift are really cool,

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<v Speaker 2>and I bet you I would get along with them

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<v Speaker 2>in real life, which is why it so pains me

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<v Speaker 2>to be anti spin drift. I think my personality is

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<v Speaker 2>very spin drift, how so, because I actually think I

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<v Speaker 2>am someone who can't commit to one thing or the other,

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<v Speaker 2>like I am half juice have Seltzer.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think you disliking Spindrift? Is it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>self hate?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's self hate.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it might be. I think I think it

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<v Speaker 2>might be. I think it might be in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way that actually sometimes I feel like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that I do think I have strong

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<v Speaker 2>personal politics, I'm not always the bravest person in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of like getting out there and uh and taking a

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<v Speaker 2>strong stand, and sometimes I feel some guilt about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe what I'm responding to in the I

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<v Speaker 2>guess uh sort of centrism of the Spindrift project is

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<v Speaker 2>that I see a little too much of myself in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wish I could be more proudly leftist.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you saying like the employees at Spindrift

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<v Speaker 1>are probably pretty cool was actually really eye opening for me,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, now, that's a fun career. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you work at Spindrift, you're like you get to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of like at a party, get to be

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<v Speaker 1>like I actually work at spin Drifts, Everyone's like, oh fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's sort of like it's not like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you work for like Coca Cola, it's sort of like, oh, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we all love Coca Cola, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It is kind of bad that you're like poisoning.

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<v Speaker 2>People, right, No, totally, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if you were like kind of water, if

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<v Speaker 3>you work for like bottled water.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Evyon, bad for the environment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's bad for the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you work for spin Drift, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's sort of like working for eight. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like working for a twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Absolutely, it's the only ethical soda I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, And you know what that might be why

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<v Speaker 2>it's so disgusting, because actually you need soda to be unethical.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the reason that I coc is so delicious it

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<v Speaker 2>is because it's killing you from the inside and actually

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<v Speaker 2>rotting all your organs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who I heard via a third

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<v Speaker 2>party at some point was consulting for nuts dot com

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<v Speaker 2>and her job was to think of what to put

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<v Speaker 2>in the different mix mixed bags. And I said, now

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<v Speaker 2>that is a dream job.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's rom comm job yeah, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>God, and she like can never get the combination quite right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she meets a guy and she like, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's like, my dad always did this. He

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<v Speaker 1>always took fas shoes with.

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<v Speaker 2>This and not just that. But they're different enough that

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<v Speaker 2>she realizes sometimes you need like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>dried fruit and a little bit of nut.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. That's a beautiful little love story anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, if you work at spin Drift, I'm seeing here

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<v Speaker 2>it's non gmo, no sugar added, carbonated water, concord, grape juice,

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<v Speaker 2>lemon juice.

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<v Speaker 3>And congrats on the canned design, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of no, you absolutely ate that down and congrats

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<v Speaker 2>on the flavors totally in the name. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>rare that a brand, a new brand, makes an impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Spin Drift I like, I love that. I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it more than all the pro biotic sodas

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<v Speaker 2>that are all named like pop pop, Holly Lollipop, don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that, Willy lolligag No, talk to me like an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And honestly those I hate those. Those are like

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<v Speaker 1>just I have soda no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, also, get can someone make a good

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<v Speaker 2>ginger ale. Who's listening? Someone make a ginger ale that

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<v Speaker 2>tastes like it's burning my throat because of how ginger

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I want it now, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>too much sugar in it, and I don't want too

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<v Speaker 2>much pulp in it.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's the and what's the deal?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you get like a ginger beer in a can,

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<v Speaker 1>why is the can as big as my thumb?

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<v Speaker 2>I not even why. By the way, when you're on

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<v Speaker 2>a plane and you order a selter and they give

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<v Speaker 2>you one tiny seltzer that's the size of one of

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<v Speaker 2>those Tonic waters that you have for Gin and.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonic, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? I am? Polly Pocket. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is a callin show.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a calin show.

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<v Speaker 1>We are ready to take your calls from our beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>number three eight five k guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and actually want to just play the first one?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hit it?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Sam and George, This is Alison calling from Vermont

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<v Speaker 4>Place that Sam has famously hated on on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>but differ. Just calling because me and my girlfriend Robin

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<v Speaker 4>are big fans of the podcast, but we're very unlikely

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<v Speaker 4>fans because we're.

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<v Speaker 5>We're both butch lesbians, like you know, Lesbian's not that unlikely,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess. But we're a butch.

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<v Speaker 4>Lesbian couple and we live out in the sticks and

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<v Speaker 4>roll Vermont.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't have any social media. We are both big

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<v Speaker 5>into like wandering in the woods and playing in the dirt.

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<v Speaker 5>So that means that since we're still like huge fans

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<v Speaker 5>of Stradia Lab, most of like our like cultural knowledge

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<v Speaker 5>these days we actually get from you guys on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 5>like we know about things that are happening in like

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<v Speaker 5>the cultural world, I guess, like in a city, or

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<v Speaker 5>something people are doing in the cities that people are

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<v Speaker 5>talking about in the cities because of you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>And so I was wondering if there are any other

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<v Speaker 6>things that you think we should know about that you

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<v Speaker 6>want to shout out for us. So please educate, educate

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<v Speaker 6>some rural Vermonters about what needs to be known, what

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<v Speaker 6>needs to be known by by the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah bye, Well an amazing call. I first of all

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<v Speaker 1>want to defend myself and say that I don't hate Vermont.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Vermont.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the gay swimming hole there and I

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate it. It is a bit boring and that it

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<v Speaker 1>can be jarring, and you know, you think you want boring,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you're out there and you're like, well what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do? Literally, and then you're ending up watching

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<v Speaker 1>the Idol while you're on vacation in Vermont because you

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<v Speaker 1>crave sort of glossy something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because I think your reputation is like that

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<v Speaker 2>you are more of like the one to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a to Vermont swimming hole, but you also are in

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<v Speaker 2>fact so much more city than I am, and that

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<v Speaker 2>when you're there for over thirty minutes, you are like

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<v Speaker 2>literally in tears and you're needing to watch something on HBO. Max.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's really it's tough because I love the idea, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course of being alone in the woods, but then it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>but not, I don't actually want that, like I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, of course, of course, I want to say before

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<v Speaker 2>we answer this question, like for two rural lesbians to

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<v Speaker 2>call in, be so effusively nice and then ask us

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<v Speaker 2>to tell them what culture they need to know is

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<v Speaker 2>like when I started this job, that was my biggest dream,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea that like a really kind butsch lesbian is like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well you know these these are gay guys,

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<v Speaker 2>like their role is to teach us about pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>So come at me and to be there with an

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<v Speaker 2>open mind and an open heart, knowing that they their

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<v Speaker 2>vibe is more going into the woods, and our vibe

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<v Speaker 2>is more HBO Max.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, what culture today May twenty five? Like, what

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<v Speaker 2>culture do these rural vermontors need to know about?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the big one is literally just all summer

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<v Speaker 1>Addison Ray. I think that's like the biggest No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest one because I think that's like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>She's obviously like has mainstream appeal, but is like not

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<v Speaker 1>full mainstream yet, And so I think it's fun to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the like for a rural Vermont lesbian, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, look at what I'm doing. I'm listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Addison Ray, and I know that I'm in Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you need to be able to recognize

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Brown on the red carpet.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to pronounce the way there, you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Pronounce the love correctly, Tom Brown. Listen to me. If

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<v Speaker 2>something is very tailored but kind of weird and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like basically black nyvy white red.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's kind of look for the little stripes.

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<v Speaker 2>A little fascistic look for the little stripes. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and be Tom Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>What else? What other cultures do they need to know?

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<v Speaker 2>The Can Film Festival, Yeah, is happening right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be over by the time you're listening to this.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna wanna get your riffs in about Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>get your effins about. No, here's something you need to

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<v Speaker 2>know about standing ovation as I can. They're greatly exaggerated

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<v Speaker 2>because actually, at these days everything gets a standing ovation.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'll hear, oh, this got a seven minute standing ovation.

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<v Speaker 2>I can not that impressive means nothing, means nothing, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of the participation trophies of Can yea actually okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge thing you need to know is that culture used

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<v Speaker 2>to be more streamlined and now it's more fractured. So

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<v Speaker 2>so there's all every everything is niche and there are

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<v Speaker 2>niche communities. And that's why Pete Buddha Judge has to

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<v Speaker 2>go on like a podcast hosted by a comedian who

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<v Speaker 2>does jokes where he like makes fun of different races.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why Bernie Sanders has to do that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite sad, is there, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole Scherzinger used to be in the Pussycat Dolls, but

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<v Speaker 2>now she's Revelatory and Sunset Boulevard, which is not a

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<v Speaker 2>very good musical, but this production is actually kind of refreshing.

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<v Speaker 3>And get ready to feel complex about Lord?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So the thing with Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because the thing with Lord is that her gender

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<v Speaker 1>is expanding, but she's also tying it to her album

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<v Speaker 1>Rollout in a way that's very sort of sometimes feels cynical,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes you're like, but she like she should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to talk about it, but then it's so tied

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<v Speaker 1>to the album that you're like, what's is this just

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<v Speaker 1>for attention?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on here? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And we're also in a place where, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQ plus community is scared of putting out the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>messaging because there's danger out there, and so when someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Lord is saying, you know, is off message, everyone's like, Lord, Ella,

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<v Speaker 2>not now, and you're not from here, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>need to stand message.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna need to stay on message.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, people will be mixed about her music,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's best to take a strong stance

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<v Speaker 1>in any direction. Don't be the spin drift either love

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<v Speaker 1>or hate. I'm choosing love and Lord please come on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. I would say that, I mean, is there anything

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<v Speaker 2>obvious that we're forgetting?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, let's move on. Okay, it's I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>realize it's when we record just the two of us

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<v Speaker 1>on a Sunday zoom. I'm like, I'm like so comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>and I forget. I do forget that. It's this is

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<v Speaker 1>for public consumption.

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<v Speaker 7>Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh another thing, look up Pink Panthers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna want to look her up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look up Pink pan threads.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe read the wiki for her, just a little miss Pink. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I would base, I would basically watch the

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<v Speaker 2>movies of Ariast and form any opinion on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now's the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now's the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd say, download okay lou.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, download Oka l o u is how it's spelled.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna want to put that up when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the New year. You're gonna say, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was actually my favorite album of the year, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that'll give you some real credibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm. Okay, Oh, you know, before we I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, we got a ton of calls from lesbians

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<v Speaker 2>and otherwise queer women, specifically about lesbian culture. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to push our luck too much by

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<v Speaker 2>commenting too much on lesbian culture after we hosted an

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<v Speaker 2>entire lesbian lab show. Uh, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly shout out some of the calls we got.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's see. Someone asked, is political lesbianism back? And

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<v Speaker 2>by that she defined it as like not sleeping with

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<v Speaker 2>men by choice, the sort of like not like I

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<v Speaker 2>was born this way and men are disgusting, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I am, I could sleep with men if I wanted to,

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<v Speaker 2>and often do want to, but I'm choosing not to

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<v Speaker 2>do that as a politics. Well, so the question is

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<v Speaker 2>is that back? So that was a great question. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Someone says, like someone asked us someone just went to

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<v Speaker 2>a new lesbian bar and she said it was just

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<v Speaker 2>completely vibeless and terrible, and she basically wants us to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about like why lesbian bars have no vibe. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>we are not sorry. I'm being actually poisoned live on air.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want to comment on that right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to comment on that right now, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do have one quick thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw friend of the pod Casey Jane Ellison this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend and there was a we were talking about lesbian

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<v Speaker 1>bars and gay bars, and an interesting theory was pitched,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that, like a gay bar is better when

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<v Speaker 1>it's owned by a lesbian, and a lesbian bar is better.

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<v Speaker 3>When it's owned by a gay guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I would even go.

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<v Speaker 1>Some distance from the community and like really run it correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>I would frankly go so far as to say a

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<v Speaker 2>gay bar is better when it's owned by a woman

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<v Speaker 2>of any sort, even a straight woman. True, true, And

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, you know, Julius is owned by a

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<v Speaker 2>straight woman, and she's a straight Greek woman, and so

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<v Speaker 2>make of that way you will. That's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So shout out to all the lesbian questions. We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate them, and we will not be commenting further.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe in the future we will. We're not we

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<v Speaker 2>know that our role is to comment on all LGBTQ plus,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but I think we were I think we

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<v Speaker 2>are respectfully not making ourselves arbiters of lesbian culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah at this point, at this point, okay, next.

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<v Speaker 8>Call, Hey, Sat and George.

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<v Speaker 9>I had a question for y'all, how do y'all feel

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<v Speaker 9>about Paris Hilton.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that's all the contexts you need.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we feel about Paris Hilton? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think we both agree on this one. H it

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<v Speaker 1>was fun for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I say congratulations on all you've done mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>and goodbye for now. Next no, I would say forever. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>if I may be so bold, I would say thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for everything you've contributed. Have fun living a private

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<v Speaker 2>life from here on out.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know the like like carbon dating, like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a half life where like how long it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's like half as much carbon I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Paris Hilton's kind of that, Like like the first

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<v Speaker 1>time around it was like, wow, this is so of

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. So now she's so ye two Q. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like now the reboot of Paris Hilton, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like it had half as much juice and it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like almost like it's fun, but it has half

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<v Speaker 1>the impact, and it's like it's only going to keep deteriorating.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I do think in ten more years she'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back again and it'll be like a quarter of the original.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, part of my current aversion to

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<v Speaker 2>her has to do with the fact that, as listeners

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<v Speaker 2>of the Patren know, I had a six month freelance

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<v Speaker 2>job that was in Penn Station, and out of my

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<v Speaker 2>window at work I could see this giant billboard for

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<v Speaker 2>Hilton Hotels. They did a campaign with Paris Hilton. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this made it to Los Angeles or

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<v Speaker 2>the state of California, but I did not recognize this

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<v Speaker 2>big campaign featuring Paris Hilton. And now what we have

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<v Speaker 2>here is reclaim. Paris Hilton has been canonized so much

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<v Speaker 2>that she's no longer an embarrassment to the Hilton name

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<v Speaker 2>and like a problem child. She's actually so mainstream pop

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<v Speaker 2>culture that they are reappropriating her as like a positive,

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<v Speaker 2>as a positive spokespirston for the Hilton family. And to that,

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<v Speaker 2>I say, you know, please respect me as a consumer,

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't, we can't be. You can't be selling

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<v Speaker 2>back Paris Hilton to me in a Hilton ad and

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<v Speaker 2>expecting me to then want to go and check into

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<v Speaker 2>a Hilton Like.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no enough, her doing that album last year, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, we can't do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No all right? Onto Actually talented women in music with

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<v Speaker 2>the next question.

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<v Speaker 10>Hia, Sam George. I have recently become enamored of playing

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<v Speaker 10>your little time game with any group of three things.

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<v Speaker 10>But I simply think there has to be a better

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<v Speaker 10>word than heim lick. Just so, I thought about the

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<v Speaker 10>word geography, which I think is like books about saints,

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<v Speaker 10>so like heimiography, writing about three sisters who say perhaps Anyway,

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<v Speaker 10>my question is heimiography or heimlick. I guess, And I

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<v Speaker 10>don't think you've done this before New York, LA, Chicago.

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<v Speaker 10>And then also for my own purposes, the second tier

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<v Speaker 10>of cities that cause lots of discourse Boston, San Francisco, DC.

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<v Speaker 10>Me know what you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is amazing, what an amazing question.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing question. I what do you think about the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the game? I just can't. I haven't got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like it rolls off the tongue.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we're just taking with heimlick. Yeah, okay, all right, heimlick,

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<v Speaker 2>New York, LA, Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost think I think Danielle is Chicago because she's

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<v Speaker 1>like like of the she's like of the earth, Like

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<v Speaker 1>she's like she's like putting in the work. Yeah, He's

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm here, like I'm the backbone. I think Alana

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe LA because of being in movies, and you

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<v Speaker 1>think ST is New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, why because she's like a West Village girl.

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<v Speaker 3>A little.

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<v Speaker 1>I think ST's got edge. I think ST's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's She's not afraid to ruffle some feathers.

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<v Speaker 2>I see see. I think my only argument against that

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<v Speaker 2>would be Alana is an IT girl, which to me

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<v Speaker 2>reads more in New York than LA. Like Alana to

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<v Speaker 2>be amused for Paul Thomas Anderson. I know Paul Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>Anderson is very LA, but but spiritually he feels very

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<v Speaker 2>New York to me, like his vibe feels more in

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<v Speaker 2>New York. And I think SD is just so at

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<v Speaker 2>home in Silver Lake, floppy hat like well, plus she's blonde.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus she's blonde. We don't have to agree, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think that would be my that would be my point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know we're getting I went to that party

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<v Speaker 1>the other night where they were Djinghu and it's I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're one degree away from home.

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<v Speaker 2>At least, or at most. Tell everyone what SD's first song.

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<v Speaker 1>Was when she DJed girls Just Want to Have Fun,

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<v Speaker 1>Classic Classic, It was fun?

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<v Speaker 2>Is choosing that as your first song in your DJ set,

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<v Speaker 2>more La or New York. I would say more La.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more La. Yeah, you're right, You're right, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, all right. I mean, Danielle being Chicago is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously shocking, but I can't it's too late at this

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<v Speaker 2>point to change that joints.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but what else could

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<v Speaker 3>she be?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, let's do Boston, San Francisco, DC. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is insane, This is really really challenging.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, this is really challenging. Okay, daniel I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>none of them? Are any of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle is DC?

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<v Speaker 3>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Danielle is DC because she's like, again, she's CEO,

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<v Speaker 2>she is Nancy Pelos, She's the Nancy Pelosi. She's like

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<v Speaker 2>speaker of the house. She's the one that pulls the strings,

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<v Speaker 2>she's the producer. I know they all produce, but hear me.

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<v Speaker 3>Out is SD Boston?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, oh god, you know, I think SD is

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<v Speaker 2>like the coolest girl at BEU.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I see that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I think Alana is Alana just left San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco for Oakland and lives in like a really cool

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood and goes to like a really queer friendly hairdresser

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<v Speaker 2>that works at meta, but works at meta. Okay, next question.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, this one is a.

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<v Speaker 11>Big Sam and George big fan of the pod. So

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<v Speaker 11>I often think about your theory of Lizzo's path and

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<v Speaker 11>the different like career milestones where celebrities and creators have

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<v Speaker 11>the option to make one choice or another, and I

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<v Speaker 11>wanted to see if you guys have any thoughts on

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 11>different crossroads that I feel like a lot of creators

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:31.400
<v Speaker 11>are running into nowadays, the social media where somebody who

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<v Speaker 11>is beloved by like a group of fans who maybe

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<v Speaker 11>have an identity that's like a little quirky, like a

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<v Speaker 11>little indie, and then as the creator becomes more and

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<v Speaker 11>more famous and commercially mainstream, all of a sudden, everyone

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<v Speaker 11>all at once seems to find them really annoying and egotistical. Okay,

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<v Speaker 11>I feel like Tycho y TD hit this point. I

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 11>feel like Lyn Manuel hit this point, not even saying

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<v Speaker 11>that I feel that these people turned cringey, but it

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<v Speaker 11>does seem to be the general view that many have,

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<v Speaker 11>and with the White Litis finale, it sort of looks

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 11>like maybe Mike White is about to hit that point.

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<v Speaker 11>So I was just wondering if this is a theory

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<v Speaker 11>that you guys have any thoughts about, and kind of

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<v Speaker 11>what would you call it? Along the same lines as

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<v Speaker 11>like Lizzo's path, like is there a term for it?

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<v Speaker 11>And maybe are there others that you can think of

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 11>who have fallen victim to this decision point? Okay, thank

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 11>you for making this thought probably a lot more eloquent

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<v Speaker 11>than I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye, guys, love you of all.

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<v Speaker 1>Never say that you're not eloquent. You fucking crushed that

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you ate that that call was so to die for

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and well thought about. I immediately I think of like

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a Jennifer Lawrence for this type. I think of Anne Hathaway.

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I do think our society has a cruel

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<v Speaker 1>way of building people up and then hating them for

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<v Speaker 1>the reason they built them up in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like it's not fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you love them? Then? I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>I would call this this phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Jennifer Lawrence thing is really uh apt. Yeah,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm trying to use j Law as a pun,

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 2>like the Jaylaw.

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, the Jay law, you.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean, Like it's like, are you being

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>cracked down by the J law? What I love that

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>one would use for a law like I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also thinking of like there's something here's the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, you know, like expired quirk because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it is fresh.

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 3>And you're like, oh I love this, I love this,

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 3>and then something it goes bad, Like.

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 2>You're right, that's exactly what it is. It's like his

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>quirk expired.

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so just.

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Hearing this off the top of my head, Zovida Chanel

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>of course.

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Of course.

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>And I think she then went in a completely different

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 2>direction because I think at some point she realized the

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>quirk expired and was like, right, well then I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to be kind of a normal woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the thing with with this, I do think

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>people know that one's quirk has an expiration date nowadays. Yeah,

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's causing people to not have quirk.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I think people like Mikey Madison is so like I

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>am no personality, like I don't have one.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Sure, but I don't think that's like a strategic move

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>she's doing, and she's like hiding her quirks. I think

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>that's simply who she is.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I think she's hiding her quirk.

0:27:58.640 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 2>Do you think she's hiding her quirk?

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 3>I think she has quirks that she's hiding.

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>That is fascinating. That is, you have an optimism that

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could have.

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 3>You think she's just a plain girl.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she's a plain girl. I think she

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 2>is a terrific artist and actress. But I think she isn't.

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she has like a really strong personality

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>because I think she's been acting her whole life, and

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 2>that's her whole life, and that's who she is. I

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think she is a Jennifer Lawrence of a Zoe Deschanel,

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:34.239
<v Speaker 2>A you know, a Charlie XCX. Like I think she

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>is just girl actor actor girl, actor girl. I have

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 2>one that I actually think is fascinating, which is fran

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Lee Bowitz. Oh don't you think she It's like she

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 2>flew too close to the sun. Her quirk didn't expire

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>for generations, and then I think over the last couple

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>of years, a new generation of consumers has come in

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, that's enough out of you.

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, there is something where like the mediums have changed

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>so much where it's like everyone is friendly, yes, exactly,

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, so you're cranky. You're essentially doing

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.959
<v Speaker 1>front facing rants about like Starbucks.

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you're charging for them and you're at the

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 2>ninety second Street why a big hall?

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we're supposed to treat you like you're better

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 3>than like.

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>That literally twing. It's like, yeah, how about actually sit

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>down and write a book. I know you've had writer's

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>block for sixty years, but it's that's sort of what

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>it's going to take for me to pay money to

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>engage with your work.

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is really interesting.

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.479
<v Speaker 2>Someone that's fascinating, and I wonder what you think of it?

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Like where are we with Charlie? Like how has her

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>quirk not expired?

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 3>She this it needs to be examined.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 2>She's like an evil genius.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 3>She is so good at it.

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't think it's expired because she's like

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of refusing to be flat, Like she's like she

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>could just be like I I'm just cocaine and sunglasses,

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but then like she sometimes will be like actually I'm

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>not like I'm this now, and it's like, oh, I

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't expect that, Like she she doesn't go two dimensional

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>with it.

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 2>No, it's true. And this is actually a larger issue

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>with like what the right amount of branding is, because

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>when you lead too much into one specific thing, it's

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna work for you in the beginning, because that's how

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the algorithm works. It rewards consistency and quantity over quality.

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>But it will reach a point where it goes bad fast.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like the experence. It's like how milk expires within

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's good, it's good, it's good one morning,

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 2>you wake up, you smell the bottle, not horrible. There

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>are I think with some people, there are like mean

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and annoying people on the Internet that want you to

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>believe someone's quirk has expired, and just because they're gay

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and confident doesn't mean they're right.

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I think that's really true, and I think.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 2>That's true with Lord. People really want you to convince

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 2>you that her quirk is expired. Don't let them, don't.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>We are not going back, folks.

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>We are here to support Lord through this album cycle.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Her quirk has not expired.

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what her gender is. Yeah, we're listening.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 3>We're listening, we're learning.

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, people are like, oh, it's put on, Like,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>oh she's And I'm like, this girl has been weird.

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>This girl has always been weird.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get into it.

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Like she's not cool.

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you think him's quirk expired when they first started

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 2>doing the synchronized dance at the concerts.

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I think that's when it started to expire.

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think they've recognized that, and I think they're like,

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.239
<v Speaker 1>that's why they're going so hard right now. I think

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>they're really being like, we'll show you we have a

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>fresh batch of quirk totally.

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's all Louis at the time, and it's

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>all Louis d AOC's.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Quirk has expired, honestly, No, I agree.

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I see like really really really left internet. That's

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like AOC should kill herself. And I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>what is going on? And then I'm always like this

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>is so niche and like, yeah, it seems like a

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of anger for no reason sometimes, but maybe I'm uneducated,

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>so we'll see.

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what the path is for Paul Pedro Pascal.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm worried about him.

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when a guy starts going sleeveless, we are on quirk.

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Watch Oh, we're sniffing the milk.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Were the milk. We're saying, okay, maybe one more day. Yeah,

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna put it in my cereal, like I'll

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>put it in my coffee, like, oh.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Splash my coffee of course.

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sniffing his milk for sure.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Because I gotta tell you Andrew Scott when Sleeveless it

0:32:58.560 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>expired fast.

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>For Yeah, damn, I'm sort of obsessed with this.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>By the way, and I'm praying for Pedro. I think

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>he is so charming. I think he's so handsome.

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, you know, I for me, I

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>was always like, not resistant, he seems great, but I

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 2>was always like everyone is being a little too coordinated

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>in their thirst for this man, like how about we

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 2>all relax. But something switched to me the last week,

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 2>and I am so ferial for him. I don't know

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 2>what it is. I'm like, I'm like, I have.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 3>To kiss him. Did you watch Game of Thrones?

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Nope?

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Because his character in that he is so sexy and

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's really incredible and like it's very much like

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>he comes on the screen, You're like, who is that?

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm addicted. So he's the real deal. So I

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 3>love this.

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, this is expired quirk. Sam. You know you

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>coined Lizo's pass and you coined expired quirk, and this

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>is your Your true talent is coining verbiage.

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll take it.

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, next, Q oh, this is this is really good.

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 12>I hate guys want to treat this is exciting. A

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 12>long time listener, our first time caller, Patriista just sus

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 12>we're just taping last week and with try to say hi. Anyways,

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 12>I'm calling because.

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 13>My husband and I have sort of a disagreement on

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 13>something and I'm hoping you guys can help it out. Okay,

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 13>I guess what we're wondering is what is the current

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 13>state of the term f for hag? That is fag

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 13>hag And I'm not going to say it because of,

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 13>you know, the aforementioned uncertainty about whether or not I'm

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 13>allowed to. I know policing language is lame now, but

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 13>I still don't want to.

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 12>Be saying things that I shouldn't be. I basically called

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 12>them on this who you know kind of was but

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 12>was like, you can't say that? What a good excuse

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 12>to get our resolute.

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 13>Gay guys on the horn.

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 12>Now that I'm tokenizing you a little to conret my

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 12>own toxic Anyways, it is what you are informed of,

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:14.439
<v Speaker 12>what you are allowed to say.

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 13>I guess I will just add that my husband is

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 13>a straight, sispet white man, and I am a you know,

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 13>Sophie Rotten bisexual woman's period married to a.

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 12>Man bars, So make that much you will.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 5>I love to.

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 12>Invoke sam and say I'm not in a place where

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 12>I want to be critique, but.

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 13>I am leaving this voicemail.

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 12>So I guess maybe I am. Please go easy. I

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 12>love you guys very much. Who do you buy?

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Folks? Her husband's gone woke? What about Reddit?

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Reddit? Am I the asshole post? Like I parentheses F

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven bisexual bisexual? My husband has gone woke?

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>So I think this is such an interesting First of all,

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm really interested in this dynamic. I do think this

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is a real It's very funny when like a straight

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>cis white whatever man is like, hey, don't like he's like,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be good, so like.

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Don't do that, like, don't say back haag. But I

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 3>have to disagree.

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I think you're disagreeing with a woke husband.

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think I think women.

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I think, first of all, I think fag hag is

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a chic term that needs to come back.

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I think it is like a it's like, yeah, it's

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 3>a time honored tradition.

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we like can't erase it, like there's something

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>like it's an important role is to be a fag hag.

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>And I think, yeah, I do think the way we like.

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we stand on whether well.

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>There's two things with back haag or not. There's where

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 2>we stand on, like the concept of a haag haag,

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 2>and there's where we stand on like the PC political

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 2>correctness of the term fag hag. We've talked about the

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>concept of fagag before because of course Matthew's theory is

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 2>the fag hag is endangered because gay guys have more

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 2>ways of meeting other gay guys now, so there's they

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 2>have groups of friends that are all gay guys, and

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>so there's less quote unquote need not to refer to

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<v Speaker 2>friendship that way, for like a supportive woman who's going

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to take you to your first gay bar, who's going

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>to like walk you through that breakup, who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>go on like a friendship with you, because now suddenly

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 2>you're going to han sho you are, you know, dealing

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 2>with your breakup. I actually yeah, yeah, you're dealing with

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 2>your breakup. I actually like fucking you're friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do think.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you meet like a like a certified fag

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<v Speaker 1>hag where you're like, her deal is she loves gay

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>guys and she like relates to gay guys in a

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>deep way, I'm like, when I meet that person, I'm like, yes, like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 2>I can really agree, and I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound Republican, of course, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am sort of like like you can say fag gag,

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like a you can say fagag.

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<v Speaker 2>To be clear, my answer is you can say fag hag,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not I don't really care. That's my personal

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<v Speaker 2>I actually am more. This is a conversation that has

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>been happening a lot, uh and I'm sure you have

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 2>seen it. The debate over whether or not women saying

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<v Speaker 2>twink is kind of a red flag, like are they

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<v Speaker 2>using the word twink to basically say fag?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually am way more not offended, but I'm way

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<v Speaker 2>more like bothered by the casual use of the word

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>twink when what you really mean is gay guy. Than

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<v Speaker 2>I am by the term fag hag that literally contains

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<v Speaker 2>the slur in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I think twink just to mean any gay guy is

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<v Speaker 1>like literally uneducated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanna Okay, One thing I actually want to mention,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there has been a rise in the get

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<v Speaker 2>this the lesbian fag hag?

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<v Speaker 7>M tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen this a lot in New York recently.

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.879
<v Speaker 2>I've seen this in my friend groups. It'll be gay

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 2>guy friend group. One woman and her vibe is she

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>is a proud lesbian, has lesbian friends, like loves the

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 2>queer community, but she is a partier in a way

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 2>her lesbian friends can't keep up with. So she wants

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 2>to go to the rave with the gay guys. Oh

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm observing here. I'm saying, I'm seeing this. Yeah,

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's rising.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think this is an amazing, groundbreaking new type.

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Does this resonate with you at all?

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 3>This is resonating with you?

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it is. It's like, and it's not. I'm not

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I really don't want to apply that this is some

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 2>sort of self hating lesbian that like only wants to

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>hang out with men. It's not that at all. It's

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>that she literally just wants to go to the rave.

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, it is like gay guys have the market cornered

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>on partying, yeah, and in a huge way. And it

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 1>is like I think if you're a lesbian who wants

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to party, that's where you go.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>And it's like it's lesbians who love Lady Gaga, like

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 2>who want to talk about Mayhem? Yeah, and they just

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>they sorry, but like they do drugs.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 3>They want to do drugs.

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>They want to do drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to literally do poppers, which I'm maybe it's

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>because they're being taken away and you never know what

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>you got till it's gone. I'm such a in a

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>pro popper space, right, Oh really Yeah, I like think

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.919
<v Speaker 1>it's really funny to have on a dance floor. I'm

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>like I'm like charmed by them.

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in a different way.

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Somebody when we went to Palm Springs, one of our

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>friends had like poppers and he had like a little

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>nozzle that like you put on it that so it

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't spill, and then you could like put put it

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>in your nose and it was so fun and we

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>were like out of the bar, like doing poppers and.

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Then like we'd like OWD.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is so fun, well and why

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 2>can't women enjoy that?

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 3>And I think they should?

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 2>So I really think that's a big and I and

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I think, I hate to say it, but that actually

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 2>makes straight fag haggs even more endangered because it's like

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 2>suddenly that they have to keep up with lesbians.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Now they have to be gay.

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>These girls have a husband and he's woke, and he's

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>woke folks, Well, my husband's.

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Gone, whoa wait, I just very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I really I love the phrasing of this call is

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 2>so straight from a straighter lab listener. It's like this

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 2>girl is just like she wants to She like wants

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 2>to both be politically correct but also recognize that. Like

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I know we're all past this, but I used to

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like I should say my husband assists head. Uh yep,

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm bisexual. Okay, predictable, I know, but that's what I am. Like,

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 2>It's like I recognize her stylist speaking so much because

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>it's the exact way I speak.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is like self awareness, like the limits of

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>self awareness, where.

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the the woke husband snake eating his own tail.

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 3>I think if he keeps up this whole woke thing,

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna be suck in his own dick.

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.399
<v Speaker 2>God, bless God, blessed, I think. And I just want

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to say, I celebrate all fag.

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Hags and celebrate all fat eggs.

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know when you can say it,

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think if you feel in your heart that

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you can say, you can say it.

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's of course listen, it's coming from a

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 2>place of love. Yes, Okay, we're skipping. Someone called in

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 2>to tell us that they once served ted Dance and

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 2>gaspacho and he really enjoyed it.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's nice.

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Someone is asking what my go to smoothie recipe is.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you not very interesting, just what I

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>have in the fridge. Seven. Okay, let's see.

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 10>Hey, you gorgeous guys. Question, Let Mary kill Nathan Fielder,

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<v Speaker 10>Ira Glass and Michael Barbaro.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, bye, this is an amazing question.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have sex with Michael Barbaro.

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 2>That is crazy.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 3>I think I would.

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately have to kill Nathan Fielder just because I think

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>being married to him would be really difficult, totally, and

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>so I guess by default. I'm marrying Ira Glass, which

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a really nice stable life, and I think

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>we'd have a nice home.

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and fuck Nathan Fielder Mary

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Ira Glass kill Michael Barbaro.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Wow, look at us. You don't want to have sex

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 3>with Michael Barbaro. I don't. Here's what else you need

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 3>to know today.

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I actually have really, uh, I really have moved on

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 2>to different white male news podcasters.

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I don't really listen to The Daily anymore,

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, there's still something about him.

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Have you've seen the photo of him on the

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 2>yellow couch?

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Right? Of course?

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's legendary, legend. Okay, next call hi gay guys.

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<v Speaker 14>This is Juliana. I'm calling with more of an alert

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 14>than a question. But since the prominence of context queen,

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 14>my friend has invented a little extenditure of that, which

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 14>is the context pill. And when someone needs a context

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 14>till they need to be given context, they are willfully

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 14>without context, but they also typically don't want to take

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 14>a context pill. So we'll be like, she needs a

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 14>context till we need to huy the context hill, and

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 14>he says he needs to get her to get contact.

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<v Speaker 14>Love your thoughts on that as a praise and as always.

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<v Speaker 2>Love, Wait, Sam, I do want you because again this

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>is your big talent of coining verbiage. I want you

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 2>very quickly to talk about the context Diva and what

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>she is.

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Context Diva was something from our San Francisco show from

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>SF sketch Fest, where we were we were like asking

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>for more context, and anytime we would say something and

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 1>trying to clarify the context, we would point to one

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>person and be like, you're the context queen, You're the

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>context Diva.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 2>And she started, she like started yelling out context. Remember, Yeah,

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 2>that's it.

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 3>That's it, that's it, and we were like, context Diva, right.

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 2>She always knew the context for something, and.

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 3>She being a public notary.

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's exactly right. So she was the context Diva.

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Then we got into this whole thing about how like

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 2>there should be a democratically elected context Diva, Like it

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 2>should be a cabinet position. It's someone whose job it

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 2>is when context is lacking to pipe up and give context.

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:58.959
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and I love the idea of a context pill.

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I really like that is so funny and I very

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>much understand how how bitter. A context pill can taste

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>like put it in peanut butter for me, because when

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know context and it actually like undermines what

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, that's gonna hurt a bit.

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I actually think there's another issue in our society,

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 2>which is that often we're actually over prescribed context pills.

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 2>And that happens when someone it's like your friend who's

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>too woke, you know what I mean. It's like me saying, oh,

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm entering the house and then someone being like, you know,

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 2>some people can't enter.

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're being so correct right now. That's

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:40.760
<v Speaker 1>so smart.

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's like to say that sometimes we're overprescribed the

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 2>context pill. Doesn't mean we're against the context pill. It

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 2>means there is like a time and a place for it.

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 3>It means talk to your doctor.

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 2>It means talk to your doctor to find out if

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the context pill is right for you.

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you might be on too high of a dosage.

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 2>And it does get to a point where, if you're

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>on too high of a dosage, you become paralyzed because

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 2>all you can see is context and not the thing

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:09.240
<v Speaker 2>at hand. You cannot you literally can't see the forest.

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.439
<v Speaker 1>For the trees literally, and honey, it gets so hard

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 1>to come.

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 2>No, the context I really love. I really love the

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 2>idea of the context pill. And I'm actually smelling merch.

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 1>This episode is really making you be like, damn, we

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 1>do have a lot of phrases. I know, we are

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>one of those podcasts that comes up with a lot

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of phrases.

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>And they're endlessly generative.

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, they actually are really helpful frameworks to see the world.

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, are again our main job is creating frameworks, of course,

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 2>that is those are our roots. It is creating theoretical

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 2>frameworks that you can apply to anything in your life.

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 3>If we aren't creating frameworks, we're dead.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Literally, So take that context pill. Okay, let's see. Okay,

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 2>our minions gey straight? And is HBO Max changing its

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 2>name gear straight? Quickly?

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Go Minions, I'm gonna say gay, and HBO Max I'm

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna say that's very I think it's straight.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Actually, really, you think Hbox changing his name back and

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 2>forth is straight?

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I think it's like sort of not being

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>able to commit. It's being like like, oh I I'm

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:33.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna be crazy, Like it's it's very Demi Levado being

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>like I'm they them and then meaning actually, never mind.

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if HBO Max was actually queer, it would change

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 2>its name to Esmeralda and everyone would respect that. Okay,

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 2>next question, Hi, George and Sam.

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 15>I was curious, what percentage of guests that you have

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 15>on have y'all slept with?

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 2>And let me say something about this context Eva. You

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:05.720
<v Speaker 2>know she's saying fag hag and she should and she should.

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, this is an amazing, amazing question, and it's

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>so juicy that I just was like, well, we at

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>least have to play it. I'm now scrolling through the

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>list of our guests just to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe my count is I don't know percentage, but

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<v Speaker 2>I believe my count is three. Really, and I'm I'm

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 2>using sleep with pretty liberally. I would say anything that

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<v Speaker 2>I would describe as like a hookup.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me see. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling.

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<v Speaker 3>I have one, so let's start there. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm scrolling, I'm trying to think who your three are. Okay,

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling, scrolling. What if I only have one?

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 1>How pitiful little loser?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm texting you my three.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Counting that second one is a stretched account. But you

0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 2>can also count that one.

0:49:58.719 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 3>I've traded news with one.

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, if we're going, we're going to We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to We're gonna have to take a different context bill.

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I literally think mine is just one still scrolling?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the one we share?

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<v Speaker 1>No, so I guess that's two. But we didn't really

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:17.879
<v Speaker 1>hook up. I feel we made out.

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<v Speaker 2>That will say. Oh, that's why I'm saying it's a

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<v Speaker 2>stretch to count that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, then in that case, then.

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<v Speaker 2>You have two and I have three. We're using we're

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<v Speaker 2>using the queer definition. We're making out counts.

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>We're making out counts. Okay, just double triple checking because

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.879
<v Speaker 1>honesty is so important. We have a lot of people

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>i'd like to hook up with. Oh wait, nope, that

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>one counts. So now I'm at three.

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Wait, send them to me. All right, let's actually think

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 2>we have to move on.

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but fukay three, we both have three.

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 2>We both have three. That's really amazing.

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 3>That's really awesome.

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 2>And only one overlap, and only one overlap, and that

0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 2>overlap is the least sexual.

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the one that's a stretch for both of us.

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a stretch for both of us.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, Hi Sama and George, This Danny and Peter. A

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:11.760
<v Speaker 9>question that we have is, in the year eight hundred,

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 9>what would your role be in the village. A couple

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 9>of the answers that we've had before is taste tester

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 9>for the king. Our friend has Celiac's disease and is

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.800
<v Speaker 9>constantly shooting his pants, so everybody thinks he's poisoning.

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 7>We've also had poop Catcher.

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Both poop related. I'm picking up on a theme. I

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:30.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, ideally I would be sort of a prince. Yeah,

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.919
<v Speaker 1>and I would be unemployed for the for the most part.

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I'd have a wife, but I would of course hook

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>up with my the man who addressed me every morning.

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And that's pretty much my deal.

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 2>So you're why you want to be a prince.

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm prince, Okay, because I'm either prince or I'm.

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Dead, Like, I don't have the the chutzpah to you know,

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>drive in this type of environment.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe ultimately I would be you know, I would

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 2>be a columnist. I think that I would be trying

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 2>to put together like a zine, you know, on papyrus

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 2>or raw or stones or whatever was available. And I

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 2>think I would not be good enough at not making

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the right enemy or at not making the wrong enemies.

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think I'd be like really successful for two

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.399
<v Speaker 2>years and then I would get murdered, Like I would

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:29.400
<v Speaker 2>get executed basically in the town square.

0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, that would be fun. I would definitely show up

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to that.

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I would also be like really obsessed with being upwardly mobile,

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's like that's not possible in these times. I

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 2>would think I'd be the first one to live the

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 2>American dream in the year eight hundred. Okay, next question.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a groundbreaking episode.

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<v Speaker 11>Hi, Divas. I was wondering if you've been to the

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 11>news gay bar Playhouse, and if you have.

0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 2>A review, say Trudi bye, So you haven't, I have not.

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 3>This is a new gay bar.

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I honestly didn't realize it was new. I mean I

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 2>went like two years ago. Am I crazy? Hold on,

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking this up. I'm looking this up Playhouse, New

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 2>York City. Well, regardless of whether it's you or not,

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I have been once with Josh Sharp and I had

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:24.879
<v Speaker 2>the time of my damn life. Our dear friend Izzy

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Uncutt was performing. She absolutely ate down. It was like

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 2>the perfect level of crowded. It's a cute space. I

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 2>thought the crowd was fun. Ultimately, it's not like where

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to go every Friday night. I would say

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.440
<v Speaker 2>it exists in this midway point between, Like on the

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 2>one end you have something like Julius, which is so

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:51.840
<v Speaker 2>vintage and cool that it's like it will never be lame.

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 2>And then on the other end you have like a

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Marie Crisis, which is so a musical theater and old

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 2>queen and piano that it's like camp. Yeah, Playhouse is

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 2>like in the middle, so it kind of could go

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 2>either way. Does that make sense?

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:08.280
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.960
<v Speaker 2>It's not like cool enough to be cool, but it's

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 2>not uh like embarrassing enough to be reclaimed.

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:19.399
<v Speaker 3>Would you say it's Philly?

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 2>It is Philly?

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Playhouse is Philly.

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 2>But I again, I had a really great time there

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.719
<v Speaker 2>and I and I would go back, and in fact,

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:28.799
<v Speaker 2>I now want to go back.

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I went to the most Philly restaurant this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, what was it?

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 7>It was?

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:39.279
<v Speaker 1>It's called like La mill or something, but it was

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 1>like the deck core was like where did you find this?

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Like it was like a weird like I was in

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the mall or like a bank lobby or something.

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's like no time for this, but you know,

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I just got back from Denver.

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, we.

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Actually need to discuss this. Maybe we'll discuss on patron

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>but so fans might remember our second episode ever, that

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.440
<v Speaker 2>topic was Denver. Max's topic was Denver his straight topic.

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Obviously at that time we would never actually talk about

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 2>the straight topic. So if you go back, you're not

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:10.800
<v Speaker 2>going to find any insights about the city of Denver.

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 2>But as a straight topic, it was so perfectly chosen

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 2>because it really is the most heterosexual city I've ever

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 2>been to. Wow, it is like everything you think of

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 2>as kind of twenty tens gentrification chic, like the beer hall,

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 2>the converted warehouse, the coffee shop that is a refurbished

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:36.720
<v Speaker 2>storage unit, you know what I mean. Like the giant

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.760
<v Speaker 2>market hall that has a bunch of different food courts

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 2>in it. Like that is the entire city. It's crazy.

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes in a place like that it can be a

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit erotic because you're like, this is so straight.

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>There must be like a CD underground, Like people are

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:54.319
<v Speaker 1>like hooking up total fly? Did you feel any like

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>CD Undertone? Did you pop on the Sniffies or something?

0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:00.759
<v Speaker 2>I should have? I mean I didn't because there was

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 2>literally no way it would have. I was there with

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 2>two friends and we were there for like forty eight hours,

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 2>and like sure, sure I was not going to hook up,

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:10.720
<v Speaker 2>and so I didn't. I I will say my feelings

0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:13.840
<v Speaker 2>about the city aside. I loved the people, Like everyone

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you it was this weird thing where everything seemed so bland,

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 2>but then the food was great, the people were nice,

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Like it wasn't like other cities which I won't name,

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 2>where you're like, oh my god, like get me out

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 2>of here. Why is nothing working? Like why can't I

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.640
<v Speaker 2>go to a coffee shop and get a croissant? Like

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 2>everywhere we went like it was good because again it's

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.839
<v Speaker 2>like it's this gentrification vibe, like it's like getting new

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:40.439
<v Speaker 2>blood to the area, getting the coffee shops, getting the

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 2>concert venues. Like it was good where it needed to be.

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 2>But then you couldn't take a walk.

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting.

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah anyway, don't whatever, don't get mad at me. Okay,

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:58.799
<v Speaker 2>all right, well here's here's one. Here's here's one.

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, and here's one for Heyday guys.

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 8>Wanted to call in and see what you guys think

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:10.040
<v Speaker 8>about bald guys, Bald gay guys in particular. I recently

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 8>gave in and shaved.

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:13.440
<v Speaker 7>My head and.

0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 8>I am having a hard time addressing to it. But

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 8>I think it looks good overall. So just when you

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 8>think about twenty nine year old gay men who are bald,

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 8>do people respect me? I think it looks good, but

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 8>I want to know what you think, especially George as

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 8>somebody with great hair that goes for the buzz cut

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 8>and why love you guys?

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think bald is very hot. I think it's complex,

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, because it's like losing one's hair is always

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like jarring because you're like, but like when you meet

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>someone who is bald, you like don't know them from

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.280
<v Speaker 1>having hair, and so you're like, you look great, like,

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 1>but I see the losing can be traumatic and weird.

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like one of those things like height that it's like,

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:12.360
<v Speaker 2>no matter where we are in acceptance, it's going to

0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 2>be an internalized stigma.

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>It's also because of like drugs and stuff that are

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>now like make it possible to have it be a

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>little more optional. It is like it's we're in an

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting place with it where it's like do you like fight,

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>do you fight like hell and be like I'm going

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to keep my hair out all costs or are you

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>like like it is sort of like I'm I'm going

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to be a bald guy. Like there's something of like

0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do that now.

0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 3>That is it's interesting.

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I like they're almost like bald guys are almost like

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>going extinct in a way. Like you watch shows from

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.400
<v Speaker 1>like the nineties and you're like, like main characters are bald,

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 1>whereas like now if you watch a show there, they

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>ain't having a bald guy on TV.

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, and I think it's as you said, it's actually

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:59.120
<v Speaker 2>this is related to spin drift. I think you I

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 2>think you can have a fully bald man on TV,

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:02.959
<v Speaker 2>and you can have a fully not bald man on TV.

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 2>What you don't get anywhere that you got in the

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>seventies and eighties is a balding man like just fully

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, again someone who like has less hair on

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 2>top because he is in the process of balding. Yeah,

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 2>that at some point was it was decided that that

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 2>was not allowed to be on.

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Screen, Yeah, it's annoying. I also, I find a bald

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:24.640
<v Speaker 3>spot to be very hot.

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like so masculine to me, totally, totally, it's very masculine. Yeah,

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:35.280
<v Speaker 2>it's funny because people think of balding like the stigma

0:59:35.360 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>is that it's somehow emasculating, when in fact it is

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the most masculine thing you can have.

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very sexy.

0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, one of my big crushes, Corey Stole, is bald.

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's true, I will say on a personal level,

0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 2>because I grew up with a bald dad. My dad

0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:57.200
<v Speaker 2>has been fully bald since he was like twenty five,

0:59:57.480 --> 1:00:02.080
<v Speaker 2>like legitimately, like I haven't even seen like maybe he

1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:04.720
<v Speaker 2>was balding in his early twenties, but like as far

1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:09.280
<v Speaker 2>back as photos go, especially photos with me being alive,

1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:13.000
<v Speaker 2>he is fully bald. And so it is difficult not

1:00:13.080 --> 1:00:16.440
<v Speaker 2>to associate boldness with my dad, which then makes it

1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:21.640
<v Speaker 2>challenging on a sexual attraction level. Sure, I mean that's interesting,

1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's like like I'm like, what is that the

1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 2>equivalent for you?

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, You're like the opposite of Freud, Like

1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I know, literally you should like kind of find it

1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:30.560
<v Speaker 1>more hot.

1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I know it's and I guess I go back and forth.

1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:35.240
<v Speaker 2>It's not like I don't it's not like I don't

1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 2>find it hot, but I but there is just something.

1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:39.600
<v Speaker 2>And it was also always such a joke, like he

1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:41.720
<v Speaker 2>was always so self deprecating about it was always like

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that he was bald. It was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd go to the you know, because he has hair

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<v Speaker 2>like in the back of his head. He would like

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<v Speaker 2>go get a haircut and be like, I need a haircut,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom would be like, do you like where

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<v Speaker 2>like show show me where they're gonna cut their you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such a such an ongoing joke. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>if like you have like a fat and all the

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<v Speaker 2>jokes are about how he's fat or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's a It is.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the it's a tough one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But to answer this listener's question, like, no one is

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<v Speaker 2>thinking no, there's no one that's being like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>he's bald.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what weld is in?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to talk about your hair journey with

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<v Speaker 1>since he oh, yes, the buzz cut.

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<v Speaker 2>So, first of all, I actually do have great hair objectively,

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<v Speaker 2>but because it is so unwieldy and thick. It's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like it looks like politician hair when it grows out,

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<v Speaker 2>like I look like Rob Lagoyevitch. Like it's just very

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<v Speaker 2>like thick. It like grows out in all directions. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've just never been good at taking care of it

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<v Speaker 2>or knowing what product you use, or knowing like where

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<v Speaker 2>to go to get a good haircut. And I actually

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<v Speaker 2>think I look fine with a buzzed head, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely like how I look, and so it just is easier,

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<v Speaker 2>it's cheaper and like I don't have to think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's sort of my But then occasionally, honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about this when I was looking at recent

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<v Speaker 2>photos of Pedro Bescal, who I do think has potentially

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<v Speaker 2>opted to not be bald. But I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>he has some great hair, Like maybe I should grow

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<v Speaker 2>my hair out and have like a nice little.

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<v Speaker 3>Poof If anyone could figure it out, it's you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh stop, But anyway, that's my journey. Yeah, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do a last call.

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<v Speaker 7>And was what is from Alaska?

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<v Speaker 15>I was actually dead for this weekend, and I saw

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<v Speaker 15>George that you were here too, And my brother went

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<v Speaker 15>the same rock show, and I was having heared to you, but.

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<v Speaker 7>He did not.

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<v Speaker 15>My question is like, what's to do with taking shirt

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<v Speaker 15>off in the clubs like the gay bar, the gig club?

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<v Speaker 7>Right, Like, what is that?

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<v Speaker 15>It's last Friday. I was at xbar and.

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<v Speaker 7>It seems there was a group of.

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<v Speaker 15>Guys being kind of rowdy with their shirts off, and

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<v Speaker 15>I was kind of watching them, like they are straight

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<v Speaker 15>guys will take their shirts off because their outfits are

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<v Speaker 15>just too immaculate, Like what's going on there?

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<v Speaker 7>All right? Thank you guys, love you.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is like a really confusing call.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, I'm mostly confused.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can answer it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're gonna take We're gonna make our own questions.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to make our own question. I also think

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<v Speaker 2>I maybe can't hear part of what he's saying at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, because I'm like I was right there with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, we're answering a question about why gay

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<v Speaker 2>guys take their shirts off at the bars. But then

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, I was at acbar and straight guys

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<v Speaker 2>took their shirts off at the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he say he's at acbar?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he did.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, but he's from Alaska.

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<v Speaker 15>Friday, I was at xbar and.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, I was at X bar. He is censoring

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the bar. He was not at acturate.

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<v Speaker 3>Got it, got it? Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, Sam, Actually I would like you to

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<v Speaker 2>take this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna discuss vaguely what it means to take

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<v Speaker 1>your shirt off at a bar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a really complex relationship with it because

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<v Speaker 1>I actually find it fun and such a like like

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<v Speaker 1>gay tradition to be like we're all shirtless dancing.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun and throwback. But then it does get into like

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<v Speaker 1>toxic territory very quickly, where then you're like seeing all

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<v Speaker 1>these bodies and all the bodies are like the same,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, wait, now I feel gross, Like now

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the competition.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I feel the like self.

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<v Speaker 1>Consciousness and like in a way where I'm like it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to feel like wow, like bodies on bodies on bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>and said, it's like it like almost gets like militaristic

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<v Speaker 1>and like unsexy. So I I personally am like very

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<v Speaker 1>torn on whether or not to take my shirt off

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<v Speaker 1>at a bar. I think, like, so there's this party,

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<v Speaker 1>the summer party, here in La called Bears and Space,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so to die for, And it happens like

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<v Speaker 1>once a month in the summer at in the Acbar

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot, and that's a really fun like everyone takes

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<v Speaker 1>their shirts off because it's hot out and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a summer daytime party and it's like but it's all

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<v Speaker 1>different types of bodies and it's not like.

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<v Speaker 3>A circuit party.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just sort of like mingling with that loud music

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<v Speaker 1>with your shirt off, and it's like fun, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that one feels like more ethical, but then the other one,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've been at parties where it's like like I

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<v Speaker 1>had my shirt off and then I saw the other

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<v Speaker 1>types of people that had their shirt off and they

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<v Speaker 1>had those muscle muscle bodies, and I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this. I don't want to be associated with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that's how I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like it's sort of it's almost if you

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<v Speaker 2>zoom out a little bit, it's almost like you can

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it as just like an encapsulation of the gay

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<v Speaker 2>guy experience where you're like this push and pull between

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<v Speaker 2>feeling liberated and feeling completely insecure and marginalized is like

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<v Speaker 2>that is just the day to day experience of being

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<v Speaker 2>in community with gay men, and I think oftentimes people

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<v Speaker 2>focus on only one of those elements. It's like either

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<v Speaker 2>the story is that you persevered and you self actualized,

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<v Speaker 2>or the story is like, oh God, poor me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not the thing that I'm supposed to be, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't fit into this community. And I unfortunately think

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere you are and no matter what you're like different

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<v Speaker 2>subidentity is it just is part of the experience of

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<v Speaker 2>being gay to feel both, because the thing you realize

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<v Speaker 2>as you meet these muscle guys is they are the

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<v Speaker 2>most insecure of all and that's yeah, not all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>but many of them. That is why in fact they

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<v Speaker 2>are so like they work so hard, and they plan

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<v Speaker 2>often their entire life around looking a certain way.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I will say, I always have fun at.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say an underwear party. I actually find sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the proper level of silly. I find that an

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<v Speaker 1>underwear party has like more humility than a shirtless party,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas like shirtless is sort of like you're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>look at my muscles sometimes, and then underwear party is

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<v Speaker 1>more like this is kind of embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're all in our underwear like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree. Really yeah, I think underwear underwear stresses me

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<v Speaker 2>out more. I don't like I really don't honestly don't

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<v Speaker 2>like wearing a drop strap, and like there's just something

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<v Speaker 2>I would much rather. And also, if you're the only

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<v Speaker 2>one not in his underwear and underwear party, you stick

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<v Speaker 2>out way more than if you're the only one in

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<v Speaker 2>like a T shirt at a shirtless party. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like, if I go into a shirtless party,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on how good I feel, depending on how what

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<v Speaker 2>my mood is, maybe I can take my shirt off,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I can keep it on. Maybe I can like

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<v Speaker 2>sort of have like a little fanny pack over my

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<v Speaker 2>over my torso and then be halfway through, halfway there.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, there is something I feel trapped in an

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<v Speaker 2>underwear party.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, I feel so settled in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something where I'm like, we're all, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>we're all it's like mutually just it's mutual destruction. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that that thing where you're like we're all the same

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<v Speaker 1>level of like embarrassed right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I see, I see what you're saying. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think if everyone agreed that that would be the vibe,

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<v Speaker 2>then I would like it. But then you see people

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<v Speaker 2>that have like laser eyes and they're like so jeed

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<v Speaker 2>out and like looking for something specific, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, why can't why are you not being fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's a good points.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, Yeah, it's interesting. I want to just briefly touch

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<v Speaker 2>on the idea that straight guys take their shirts off

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<v Speaker 2>and gay guys don't, because I understand I think I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the vibe this person is going for, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like almost like a tailgate adjacent, like guy that's like

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<v Speaker 2>come on and then like rips his shirt off, like

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. But my answer to that would

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<v Speaker 2>just be I promise you gay guys are taking their

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<v Speaker 2>shirts off as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna go ahead and be taking their shirts off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say when I was in college, my straight

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<v Speaker 1>guy friend group, we would famous we would take our

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<v Speaker 1>shirts off all the time at parties because we thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was kind of crazy. In retrospect, it was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is making me excited for summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, summer. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a pool day and it was to die for.

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<v Speaker 1>I got that summer feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have a pool day at your pool or

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<v Speaker 2>someone else. Yeah, damn. And you know I had people

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<v Speaker 2>over for your vision. Both had things. I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, actually, someone was like, you guys talk

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<v Speaker 2>about your vision. I was like, damn, next year, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make Sam watch and then we can talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready. I'm ready to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh no, I when you were talking to me

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<v Speaker 2>last week about how you're gonna have people over at

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<v Speaker 2>your pool, I was so jealous. What did you did?

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<v Speaker 2>You end up doing gay guys, mixed.

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<v Speaker 3>Co workers, very very small list of gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Coworkers okay, interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And and then like random gay guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so gay guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I didn't go like I didn't go very

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<v Speaker 1>wide with it, like and I didn't go like comedy

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<v Speaker 1>with it. I went like just like gay guys totally.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was it was it was really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually I did that. So when I had people

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<v Speaker 2>are for your vision, Josh was the only comedian, and wow,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can believe them.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I love comedians. Let's start there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is the way they socialize is like frantic

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<v Speaker 1>and like all the wrong instincts.

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<v Speaker 2>Like also, it makes me not be at my best sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, I completely join in. I'm like yeah, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Comedians love to.

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<v Speaker 3>Gather where they're not supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>They love to like just be in like the doorway

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<v Speaker 1>of the entrance, and it's like, no, come have be

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<v Speaker 1>part of this.

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<v Speaker 3>You're part of this. It's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>They're always they always have to be in the core.

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<v Speaker 2>They always have to be in the minority. They have

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<v Speaker 2>to be in a corner observing. Yeah, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>never actually part of the space that they're in. They

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<v Speaker 2>are always friendly bowits.

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<v Speaker 3>They are literally the kids at an adult party at

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<v Speaker 3>all times.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred have to give them their own table. They

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<v Speaker 1>need their own room, like sometimes they need like their

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<v Speaker 1>own drink station.

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<v Speaker 3>It is like, it's embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's embarrassing, and of course it's also beautiful because it

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<v Speaker 2>we you know, it gives you an excuse to be

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<v Speaker 2>a child forever.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, never forget your Christmas party where we all live.

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<v Speaker 2>That literally a whole room that was just the comedians

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone else was just it at a normal holiday party.

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<v Speaker 3>That was so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Arguably also happened at my wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. That is true.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have a way of making you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're missing out, Like when I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talking to your parents out of.

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<v Speaker 3>The corner of my eye.

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<v Speaker 1>See all the comedian's not gonna go oh my by

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<v Speaker 1>they're having so much fun. I'm a fucking loser over here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow this episode was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, start to finish, I think I'm gonna be thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about expired quirk a lot expire quirk a context pill,

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<v Speaker 1>context Pill, Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>Denver, Which time sister is Boston, San Francisco or DC.

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<v Speaker 2>A rural lesbian calling us to ask her what she

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<v Speaker 2>should know about culture?

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the fag hag discussion. I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of our best calling shows in forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And reminder, you can always call in at three eight

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<v Speaker 1>five gay guys and leave a voicemail and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do these intermittently.

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<v Speaker 2>So and we yes, and we do them on the

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<v Speaker 2>Patreon even more frequently. So you can always join that

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<v Speaker 2>by going to patreon dot com slash stradio lab.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to say thanks for listening, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to agree. I want to agree with Sam

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<v Speaker 2>in his gratitude for your listenership.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I feel like we I keep going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, like, I have this urge to say so something, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>be like and check us out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, we don't actually have anything to announce.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yet, but we will, but we will. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to say, have a great summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, you guys, it's here. It's pretty much here. And George,

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<v Speaker 3>have an amazing time in Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, and hope that your flight's an amazing time.

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<v Speaker 2>Cleaning your room.

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<v Speaker 7>My room.

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<v Speaker 3>My room is the dirtiest it's ever been. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Hurt when we go on tour. I'm giving you a deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta have tsa pre check before we leave for tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I gotta figure that.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I about to be unemployed, so I'll have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally procrastinated on it for a full ten years

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<v Speaker 2>of my life. Got global entry, which includes pre check.

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<v Speaker 2>I just traveled to Denver use it for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time to not feel like cattle, to just like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm costplaying nineteen ninety seven pre nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 2>airport experience.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing. I can't imagine what that's like it's nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Even at JFK, I feel like there's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>not feel like cattle there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, you're all kind of feeling like cattle,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're definitely feeling like upper middle class cattle.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I'll take it. I'm a prize pig.

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