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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Hello everyone, and welcome to Stradio Lab.

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Speaker 1: We are coming at you by coastally once again after

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Speaker 1: our string of hit recordings in New York City.

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Speaker 2: We are coming at you by coastally on a beautiful Sunday,

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Speaker 2: and I am leaving for it, Dahlia tomorrow. I'm going

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Speaker 2: on a vacation, as is my birthright. You're allowed as

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Speaker 2: a gay man based in ban I actually have a

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Speaker 2: message to the Spin Drift team, and I want to say,

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Speaker 2: this is disgusting, y'all. What do better? Which one all

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Speaker 2: spin drift? Not all spin enough? No we have I

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Speaker 2: can't do it anymore. Either something is a seltzer, or

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Speaker 2: it is a juice, or it is a mocktail, or

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Speaker 2: it is a cocktail. This weird. They are being so

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Speaker 2: toxic in wanting to have it all, and I cannot

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Speaker 2: do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: I could not disagree with you more. I think we

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Speaker 1: need more innovation in the drink space. I think there's

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Speaker 1: obviously so much space between juice and soda and water,

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Speaker 1: and they are finding that space and they're exploring it

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Speaker 1: in a way that is like thank you, I see.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny to me. I'm like all the obviously

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Speaker 2: defined things, whether it's a coke, a seltzer, a water

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Speaker 2: like I would always rather have that than something that

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Speaker 2: is somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 3: Have you had the blue one, the lemon one?

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Speaker 2: I have not had the lemon one. But once again,

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Speaker 2: take a seltzer, take a lemon, squeeze some of it

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Speaker 2: in there. Mix, mix, mix, Maybe we're talking a mint leaf.

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Speaker 1: Look, not all of us can get back to me

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Speaker 1: a fresh garden in our damn apartment.

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Speaker 2: Sign up for sign up for uh farm to people?

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Speaker 2: What is it called? There is a service so you

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Speaker 2: can sign up for a few live in New York

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Speaker 2: City farm to people. I believe it's called get some

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Speaker 2: fresh herbs, stick them right in the glass, ice lemon,

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Speaker 2: maybe a little lime, seltzer, put a little straw in there.

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Speaker 2: It's time to party.

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Speaker 3: Damn.

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Speaker 1: They are always innovating with new delivery services over there,

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Speaker 1: aren't they.

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Speaker 2: They certainly are. I just yeah, I really, I'm really

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Speaker 2: sorry if they're an advertiser. And I actually bet you

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Speaker 2: that the people that work at spin Drift are really cool,

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Speaker 2: and I bet you I would get along with them

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Speaker 2: in real life, which is why it so pains me

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Speaker 2: to be anti spin drift. I think my personality is

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Speaker 2: very spin drift, how so, because I actually think I

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Speaker 2: am someone who can't commit to one thing or the other,

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Speaker 2: like I am half juice have Seltzer.

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Speaker 1: So do you think you disliking Spindrift? Is it's pretty

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Speaker 1: self hate?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's self hate.

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Speaker 2: I think it might be. I think I think it

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Speaker 2: might be. I think it might be in the in

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Speaker 2: the same way that actually sometimes I feel like, uh,

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Speaker 2: despite the fact that I do think I have strong

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Speaker 2: personal politics, I'm not always the bravest person in terms

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Speaker 2: of like getting out there and uh and taking a

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Speaker 2: strong stand, and sometimes I feel some guilt about that.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe what I'm responding to in the I

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Speaker 2: guess uh sort of centrism of the Spindrift project is

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Speaker 2: that I see a little too much of myself in it,

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Speaker 2: and I wish I could be more proudly leftist.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you saying like the employees at Spindrift

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Speaker 1: are probably pretty cool was actually really eye opening for me,

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Speaker 1: because I was like, now, that's a fun career. Like

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Speaker 1: if you work at Spindrift, you're like you get to

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Speaker 1: be kind of like at a party, get to be

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Speaker 1: like I actually work at spin Drifts, Everyone's like, oh fun.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's sort of like it's not like, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you work for like Coca Cola, it's sort of like, oh, like, yes,

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Speaker 1: we all love Coca Cola, but.

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Speaker 3: It is kind of bad that you're like poisoning.

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Speaker 2: People, right, No, totally, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: And then if you were like kind of water, if

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Speaker 3: you work for like bottled water.

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Speaker 2: Like Evyon, bad for the environment.

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Speaker 3: It's bad for the environment.

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Speaker 1: But if you work for spin Drift, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: good for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of like working for eight. Well, it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit like working for a twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Absolutely, it's the only ethical soda I know.

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Speaker 2: I know, And you know what that might be why

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Speaker 2: it's so disgusting, because actually you need soda to be unethical.

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Speaker 2: Like the reason that I coc is so delicious it

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Speaker 2: is because it's killing you from the inside and actually

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Speaker 2: rotting all your organs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I have a friend who I heard via a third

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Speaker 2: and her job was to think of what to put

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Speaker 2: in the different mix mixed bags. And I said, now

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Speaker 2: that is a dream job.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's rom comm job yeah, oh.

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Speaker 2: God, and she like can never get the combination quite right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then she meets a guy and she like, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, my dad always did this. He

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Speaker 1: always took fas shoes with.

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Speaker 2: This and not just that. But they're different enough that

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Speaker 2: she realizes sometimes you need like a little bit of

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Speaker 2: dried fruit and a little bit of nut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That's a beautiful little love story anyway.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, if you work at spin Drift, I'm seeing here

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Speaker 2: it's non gmo, no sugar added, carbonated water, concord, grape juice,

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Speaker 2: lemon juice.

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Speaker 3: And congrats on the canned design, you guys.

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Speaker 2: Kind of no, you absolutely ate that down and congrats

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Speaker 2: on the flavors totally in the name. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: rare that a brand, a new brand, makes an impact.

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Speaker 2: Spin Drift I like, I love that. I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like it more than all the pro biotic sodas

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Speaker 2: that are all named like pop pop, Holly Lollipop, don't

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Speaker 2: like that, Willy lolligag No, talk to me like an adult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly those I hate those. Those are like

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Speaker 1: just I have soda no.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree, also, get can someone make a good

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Speaker 2: ginger ale. Who's listening? Someone make a ginger ale that

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Speaker 2: tastes like it's burning my throat because of how ginger

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Speaker 2: it is. I want it now, and I don't want

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Speaker 2: too much sugar in it, and I don't want too

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Speaker 2: much pulp in it.

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Speaker 3: And what's the and what's the deal?

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Speaker 1: So when you get like a ginger beer in a can,

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Speaker 1: why is the can as big as my thumb?

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Speaker 2: I not even why. By the way, when you're on

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Speaker 2: a plane and you order a selter and they give

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Speaker 2: you one tiny seltzer that's the size of one of

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Speaker 2: those Tonic waters that you have for Gin and.

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Speaker 3: Tonic, it's insane.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? I am? Polly Pocket. So this

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Speaker 2: is a callin show.

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Speaker 3: This is a calin show.

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Speaker 1: We are ready to take your calls from our beautiful

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Speaker 1: number three eight five k guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually want to just play the first one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hit it?

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Speaker 4: Hi, Sam and George, This is Alison calling from Vermont

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Speaker 4: Place that Sam has famously hated on on the podcast,

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Speaker 4: but differ. Just calling because me and my girlfriend Robin

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Speaker 4: are big fans of the podcast, but we're very unlikely

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Speaker 4: fans because we're.

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Speaker 5: We're both butch lesbians, like you know, Lesbian's not that unlikely,

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Speaker 5: I guess. But we're a butch.

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Speaker 4: Lesbian couple and we live out in the sticks and

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Speaker 4: roll Vermont.

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Speaker 5: We don't have any social media. We are both big

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Speaker 5: into like wandering in the woods and playing in the dirt.

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Speaker 5: So that means that since we're still like huge fans

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Speaker 5: of Stradia Lab, most of like our like cultural knowledge

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Speaker 5: these days we actually get from you guys on the podcast,

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Speaker 5: like we know about things that are happening in like

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Speaker 5: the cultural world, I guess, like in a city, or

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Speaker 5: something people are doing in the cities that people are

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Speaker 5: talking about in the cities because of you guys.

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Speaker 6: And so I was wondering if there are any other

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Speaker 6: things that you think we should know about that you

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Speaker 6: want to shout out for us. So please educate, educate

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Speaker 6: some rural Vermonters about what needs to be known, what

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Speaker 6: needs to be known by by the world.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah bye, Well an amazing call. I first of all

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Speaker 1: want to defend myself and say that I don't hate Vermont.

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Speaker 3: I love Vermont.

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Speaker 1: I go to the gay swimming hole there and I

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Speaker 1: celebrate it. It is a bit boring and that it

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Speaker 1: can be jarring, and you know, you think you want boring,

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Speaker 1: but then you're out there and you're like, well what

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Speaker 1: do I do? Literally, and then you're ending up watching

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Speaker 1: the Idol while you're on vacation in Vermont because you

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Speaker 1: crave sort of glossy something.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I think your reputation is like that

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Speaker 2: you are more of like the one to go to

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Speaker 2: a to Vermont swimming hole, but you also are in

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Speaker 2: fact so much more city than I am, and that

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Speaker 2: when you're there for over thirty minutes, you are like

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Speaker 2: literally in tears and you're needing to watch something on HBO. Max.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's really it's tough because I love the idea, of.

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Speaker 1: Course of being alone in the woods, but then it's like,

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Speaker 1: but not, I don't actually want that, like I love them.

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Speaker 2: No, of course, of course, I want to say before

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Speaker 2: we answer this question, like for two rural lesbians to

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Speaker 2: to tell them what culture they need to know is

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Speaker 2: like when I started this job, that was my biggest dream,

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Speaker 2: the idea that like a really kind butsch lesbian is like,

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Speaker 2: all right, well you know these these are gay guys,

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Speaker 2: like their role is to teach us about pop culture.

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Speaker 2: So come at me and to be there with an

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Speaker 2: vibe is more going into the woods, and our vibe

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Speaker 2: is more HBO Max.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So okay, what culture today May twenty five? Like, what

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Speaker 2: culture do these rural vermontors need to know about?

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Speaker 1: I think the big one is literally just all summer

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Speaker 1: Addison Ray. I think that's like the biggest No, that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest one because I think that's like a nice

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Speaker 1: She's obviously like has mainstream appeal, but is like not

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Speaker 1: full mainstream yet, And so I think it's fun to

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Speaker 1: be on the like for a rural Vermont lesbian, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be like, look at what I'm doing. I'm listening

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Speaker 1: to Addison Ray, and I know that I'm in Yes.

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Speaker 2: I think that you need to be able to recognize

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Speaker 2: Tom Brown on the red carpet.

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Speaker 3: You have to pronounce the way there, you have to.

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Speaker 2: Pronounce the love correctly, Tom Brown. Listen to me. If

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Speaker 2: something is very tailored but kind of weird and it's

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Speaker 2: like basically black nyvy white red.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's kind of look for the little stripes.

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Speaker 2: A little fascistic look for the little stripes. That's gonna

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Speaker 2: go ahead and be Tom Brown.

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Speaker 3: What else? What other cultures do they need to know?

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Speaker 2: The Can Film Festival, Yeah, is happening right now. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be over by the time you're listening to this.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna wanna get your riffs in about Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: get your effins about. No, here's something you need to

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Speaker 10: Hia, Sam George. I have recently become enamored of playing

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Speaker 10: your little time game with any group of three things.

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Speaker 10: But I simply think there has to be a better

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is amazing, what an amazing question.

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Speaker 2: New York, LA, Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Plus she's blonde. We don't have to agree, but I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we're getting I went to that party

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Speaker 2: At least, or at most. Tell everyone what SD's first song.

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Speaker 2: Is choosing that as your first song in your DJ set,

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Speaker 3: It's more La. Yeah, you're right, You're right, and I'm

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but what else could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's do Boston, San Francisco, DC. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: I think Danielle is DC because she's like, again, she's CEO,

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Speaker 3: Out is SD Boston?

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Speaker 2: I think, oh god, you know, I think SD is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that.

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Speaker 2: And then I think Alana is Alana just left San

439
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Francisco for Oakland and lives in like a really cool

440
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: neighborhood and goes to like a really queer friendly hairdresser

441
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:49,719
Speaker 2: that works at meta, but works at meta. Okay, next question.

442
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: All right, this one is a.

443
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Speaker 11: Big Sam and George big fan of the pod. So

444
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 11: I often think about your theory of Lizzo's path and

445
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 11: the different like career milestones where celebrities and creators have

446
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 11: the option to make one choice or another, and I

447
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 11: wanted to see if you guys have any thoughts on

448
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 11: different crossroads that I feel like a lot of creators

449
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 11: are running into nowadays, the social media where somebody who

450
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 11: is beloved by like a group of fans who maybe

451
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 11: have an identity that's like a little quirky, like a

452
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 11: little indie, and then as the creator becomes more and

453
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 11: more famous and commercially mainstream, all of a sudden, everyone

454
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 11: all at once seems to find them really annoying and egotistical. Okay,

455
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 11: I feel like Tycho y TD hit this point. I

456
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 11: feel like Lyn Manuel hit this point, not even saying

457
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 11: that I feel that these people turned cringey, but it

458
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 11: does seem to be the general view that many have,

459
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 11: and with the White Litis finale, it sort of looks

460
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 11: like maybe Mike White is about to hit that point.

461
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Speaker 11: So I was just wondering if this is a theory

462
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Speaker 11: that you guys have any thoughts about, and kind of

463
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Speaker 11: what would you call it? Along the same lines as

464
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Speaker 11: like Lizzo's path, like is there a term for it?

465
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Speaker 11: And maybe are there others that you can think of

466
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Speaker 11: who have fallen victim to this decision point? Okay, thank

467
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 11: you for making this thought probably a lot more eloquent

468
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Speaker 11: than I did.

469
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Speaker 3: Bye, guys, love you of all.

470
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Speaker 1: Never say that you're not eloquent. You fucking crushed that

471
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: you ate that that call was so to die for

472
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: and well thought about. I immediately I think of like

473
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: a Jennifer Lawrence for this type. I think of Anne Hathaway.

474
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: I think I do think our society has a cruel

475
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: way of building people up and then hating them for

476
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: the reason they built them up in the first place.

477
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: And it's like it's not fair.

478
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Speaker 3: Why did you love them? Then? I don't know what

479
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: I would call this this phenomenon.

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Speaker 2: I think the Jennifer Lawrence thing is really uh apt. Yeah,

481
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: It's like I'm trying to use j Law as a pun,

482
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: like the Jaylaw.

483
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: Oh wow, the Jay law, you.

484
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like it's like, are you being

485
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: cracked down by the J law? What I love that

486
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: one would use for a law like I love.

487
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Speaker 1: I'm also thinking of like there's something here's the phrase

488
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Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, like expired quirk because it's

489
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: like it is fresh.

490
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh I love this, I love this,

491
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: and then something it goes bad, Like.

492
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: You're right, that's exactly what it is. It's like his

493
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: quirk expired.

494
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just.

495
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: Hearing this off the top of my head, Zovida Chanel

496
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: of course.

497
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: Of course.

498
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: And I think she then went in a completely different

499
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: direction because I think at some point she realized the

500
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: quirk expired and was like, right, well then I'm just

501
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: going to be kind of a normal woman.

502
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Well, and the thing with with this, I do think

503
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: people know that one's quirk has an expiration date nowadays. Yeah,

504
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: but I think it's causing people to not have quirk.

505
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: I think people like Mikey Madison is so like I

506
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: am no personality, like I don't have one.

507
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: Sure, but I don't think that's like a strategic move

508
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: she's doing, and she's like hiding her quirks. I think

509
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: that's simply who she is.

510
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: I think she's hiding her quirk.

511
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: Do you think she's hiding her quirk?

512
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: I think she has quirks that she's hiding.

513
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: That is fascinating. That is, you have an optimism that

514
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: I wish I could have.

515
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: You think she's just a plain girl.

516
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: I don't think she's a plain girl. I think she

517
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: is a terrific artist and actress. But I think she isn't.

518
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't think she has like a really strong personality

519
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: because I think she's been acting her whole life, and

520
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: that's her whole life, and that's who she is. I

521
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: don't think she is a Jennifer Lawrence of a Zoe Deschanel,

522
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 2: A you know, a Charlie XCX. Like I think she

523
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: is just girl actor actor girl, actor girl. I have

524
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: one that I actually think is fascinating, which is fran

525
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Lee Bowitz. Oh don't you think she It's like she

526
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: flew too close to the sun. Her quirk didn't expire

527
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: for generations, and then I think over the last couple

528
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: of years, a new generation of consumers has come in

529
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: and they're like, that's enough out of you.

530
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: Well, there is something where like the mediums have changed

531
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: so much where it's like everyone is friendly, yes, exactly,

532
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, so you're cranky. You're essentially doing

533
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: front facing rants about like Starbucks.

534
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're charging for them and you're at the

535
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: ninety second Street why a big hall?

536
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're supposed to treat you like you're better

537
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: than like.

538
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: That literally twing. It's like, yeah, how about actually sit

539
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: down and write a book. I know you've had writer's

540
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: block for sixty years, but it's that's sort of what

541
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: it's going to take for me to pay money to

542
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: engage with your work.

543
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is really interesting.

544
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 2: Someone that's fascinating, and I wonder what you think of it?

545
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: Like where are we with Charlie? Like how has her

546
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: quirk not expired?

547
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: She this it needs to be examined.

548
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: She's like an evil genius.

549
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: She is so good at it.

550
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it's expired because she's like

551
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: kind of refusing to be flat, Like she's like she

552
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: could just be like I I'm just cocaine and sunglasses,

553
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: but then like she sometimes will be like actually I'm

554
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: not like I'm this now, and it's like, oh, I

555
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: didn't expect that, Like she she doesn't go two dimensional

556
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: with it.

557
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: No, it's true. And this is actually a larger issue

558
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: with like what the right amount of branding is, because

559
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: when you lead too much into one specific thing, it's

560
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: gonna work for you in the beginning, because that's how

561
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: the algorithm works. It rewards consistency and quantity over quality.

562
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: But it will reach a point where it goes bad fast.

563
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: It's like the experence. It's like how milk expires within

564
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: It's like, it's good, it's good, it's good one morning,

565
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: you wake up, you smell the bottle, not horrible. There

566
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: are I think with some people, there are like mean

567
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: and annoying people on the Internet that want you to

568
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: believe someone's quirk has expired, and just because they're gay

569
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: and confident doesn't mean they're right.

570
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: I think that's really true, and I think.

571
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: That's true with Lord. People really want you to convince

572
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: you that her quirk is expired. Don't let them, don't.

573
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: We are not going back, folks.

574
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: We are here to support Lord through this album cycle.

575
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: Her quirk has not expired.

576
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: I don't care what her gender is. Yeah, we're listening.

577
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: We're listening, we're learning.

578
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: The thing is, people are like, oh, it's put on, Like,

579
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: oh she's And I'm like, this girl has been weird.

580
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: This girl has always been weird.

581
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, get into it.

582
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: Like she's not cool.

583
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: Do you think him's quirk expired when they first started

584
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: doing the synchronized dance at the concerts.

585
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: I think that's when it started to expire.

586
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: But I think they've recognized that, and I think they're like,

587
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 1: that's why they're going so hard right now. I think

588
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: they're really being like, we'll show you we have a

589
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: fresh batch of quirk totally.

590
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all Louis at the time, and it's

591
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: all Louis d AOC's.

592
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: Quirk has expired, honestly, No, I agree.

593
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes I see like really really really left internet. That's

594
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: like AOC should kill herself. And I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

595
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: what is going on? And then I'm always like this

596
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: is so niche and like, yeah, it seems like a

597
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: lot of anger for no reason sometimes, but maybe I'm uneducated,

598
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: so we'll see.

599
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: I wonder what the path is for Paul Pedro Pascal.

600
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm worried about him.

601
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, when a guy starts going sleeveless, we are on quirk.

602
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: Watch Oh, we're sniffing the milk.

603
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: Were the milk. We're saying, okay, maybe one more day. Yeah,

604
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put it in my cereal, like I'll

605
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: put it in my coffee, like, oh.

606
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: Splash my coffee of course.

607
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

608
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sniffing his milk for sure.

609
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: Because I gotta tell you Andrew Scott when Sleeveless it

610
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: expired fast.

611
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: For Yeah, damn, I'm sort of obsessed with this.

612
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

613
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: By the way, and I'm praying for Pedro. I think

614
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: he is so charming. I think he's so handsome.

615
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: I want to say, you know, I for me, I

616
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: was always like, not resistant, he seems great, but I

617
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: was always like everyone is being a little too coordinated

618
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: in their thirst for this man, like how about we

619
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: all relax. But something switched to me the last week,

620
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: and I am so ferial for him. I don't know

621
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: what it is. I'm like, I'm like, I have.

622
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: To kiss him. Did you watch Game of Thrones?

623
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: Nope?

624
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Because his character in that he is so sexy and

625
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: like it's really incredible and like it's very much like

626
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: he comes on the screen, You're like, who is that?

627
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm addicted. So he's the real deal. So I

628
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: love this.

629
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, this is expired quirk. Sam. You know you

630
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: coined Lizo's pass and you coined expired quirk, and this

631
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: is your Your true talent is coining verbiage.

632
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: I'll take it.

633
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 2: Okay, next, Q oh, this is this is really good.

634
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 12: I hate guys want to treat this is exciting. A

635
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 12: long time listener, our first time caller, Patriista just sus

636
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 12: we're just taping last week and with try to say hi. Anyways,

637
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 12: I'm calling because.

638
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 13: My husband and I have sort of a disagreement on

639
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 13: something and I'm hoping you guys can help it out. Okay,

640
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 13: I guess what we're wondering is what is the current

641
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 13: state of the term f for hag? That is fag

642
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 13: hag And I'm not going to say it because of,

643
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 13: you know, the aforementioned uncertainty about whether or not I'm

644
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 13: allowed to. I know policing language is lame now, but

645
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 13: I still don't want to.

646
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 12: Be saying things that I shouldn't be. I basically called

647
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 12: them on this who you know kind of was but

648
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 12: was like, you can't say that? What a good excuse

649
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 12: to get our resolute.

650
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 13: Gay guys on the horn.

651
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 12: Now that I'm tokenizing you a little to conret my

652
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 12: own toxic Anyways, it is what you are informed of,

653
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 12: what you are allowed to say.

654
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 13: I guess I will just add that my husband is

655
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 13: a straight, sispet white man, and I am a you know,

656
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 13: Sophie Rotten bisexual woman's period married to a.

657
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 12: Man bars, So make that much you will.

658
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Speaker 5: I love to.

659
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Speaker 12: Invoke sam and say I'm not in a place where

660
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Speaker 12: I want to be critique, but.

661
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Speaker 13: I am leaving this voicemail.

662
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Speaker 12: So I guess maybe I am. Please go easy. I

663
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Speaker 12: love you guys very much. Who do you buy?

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Speaker 3: Folks? Her husband's gone woke? What about Reddit?

665
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Speaker 2: Reddit? Am I the asshole post? Like I parentheses F

666
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Speaker 2: twenty seven bisexual bisexual? My husband has gone woke?

667
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Speaker 1: So I think this is such an interesting First of all,

668
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in this dynamic. I do think this

669
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: is a real It's very funny when like a straight

670
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: cis white whatever man is like, hey, don't like he's like,

671
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be good, so like.

672
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Speaker 3: Don't do that, like, don't say back haag. But I

673
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Speaker 3: have to disagree.

674
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Speaker 2: I think you're disagreeing with a woke husband.

675
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I think women.

676
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Speaker 1: I think, first of all, I think fag hag is

677
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: a chic term that needs to come back.

678
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Speaker 3: I think it is like a it's like, yeah, it's

679
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: a time honored tradition.

680
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we like can't erase it, like there's something

681
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: like it's an important role is to be a fag hag.

682
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, I do think the way we like.

683
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Speaker 1: I don't know where we stand on whether well.

684
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Speaker 2: There's two things with back haag or not. There's where

685
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: we stand on, like the concept of a haag haag,

686
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: and there's where we stand on like the PC political

687
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: correctness of the term fag hag. We've talked about the

688
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: concept of fagag before because of course Matthew's theory is

689
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: the fag hag is endangered because gay guys have more

690
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: ways of meeting other gay guys now, so there's they

691
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: have groups of friends that are all gay guys, and

692
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: so there's less quote unquote need not to refer to

693
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Speaker 2: friendship that way, for like a supportive woman who's going

694
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Speaker 2: to take you to your first gay bar, who's going

695
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: to like walk you through that breakup, who's going to

696
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Speaker 2: go on like a friendship with you, because now suddenly

697
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Speaker 2: you're going to han sho you are, you know, dealing

698
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: with your breakup. I actually yeah, yeah, you're dealing with

699
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: your breakup. I actually like fucking you're friends.

700
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think.

701
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Speaker 1: But when you meet like a like a certified fag

702
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Speaker 1: hag where you're like, her deal is she loves gay

703
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: guys and she like relates to gay guys in a

704
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: deep way, I'm like, when I meet that person, I'm like, yes, like,

705
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for your service.

706
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Speaker 2: I can really agree, and I think.

707
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

708
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Speaker 1: I don't want to sound Republican, of course, but I

709
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Speaker 1: am sort of like like you can say fag gag,

710
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: Like it's like a you can say fagag.

711
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: To be clear, my answer is you can say fag hag,

712
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: and I'm not I don't really care. That's my personal

713
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: I actually am more. This is a conversation that has

714
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: been happening a lot, uh and I'm sure you have

715
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: seen it. The debate over whether or not women saying

716
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: twink is kind of a red flag, like are they

717
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: using the word twink to basically say fag?

718
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

719
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Speaker 2: I actually am way more not offended, but I'm way

720
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: more like bothered by the casual use of the word

721
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: twink when what you really mean is gay guy. Than

722
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Speaker 2: I am by the term fag hag that literally contains

723
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Speaker 2: the slur in it.

724
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Speaker 3: I agree.

725
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Speaker 1: I think twink just to mean any gay guy is

726
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Speaker 1: like literally uneducated.

727
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanna Okay, One thing I actually want to mention,

728
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Speaker 2: I think there has been a rise in the get

729
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Speaker 2: this the lesbian fag hag?

730
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Speaker 7: M tell me.

731
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Speaker 2: I have seen this a lot in New York recently.

732
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Speaker 2: I've seen this in my friend groups. It'll be gay

733
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: guy friend group. One woman and her vibe is she

734
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: is a proud lesbian, has lesbian friends, like loves the

735
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: queer community, but she is a partier in a way

736
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: her lesbian friends can't keep up with. So she wants

737
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Speaker 2: to go to the rave with the gay guys. Oh

738
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Speaker 2: and I'm observing here. I'm saying, I'm seeing this. Yeah,

739
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: and it's rising.

740
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Speaker 1: Well, I think this is an amazing, groundbreaking new type.

741
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Speaker 2: Does this resonate with you at all?

742
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: This is resonating with you?

743
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 7: Yeah?

744
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: Like it is. It's like, and it's not. I'm not

745
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: I really don't want to apply that this is some

746
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: sort of self hating lesbian that like only wants to

747
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: hang out with men. It's not that at all. It's

748
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: that she literally just wants to go to the rave.

749
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: Well, it is like gay guys have the market cornered

750
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: on partying, yeah, and in a huge way. And it

751
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: is like I think if you're a lesbian who wants

752
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: to party, that's where you go.

753
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Speaker 2: And it's like it's lesbians who love Lady Gaga, like

754
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: who want to talk about Mayhem? Yeah, and they just

755
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: they sorry, but like they do drugs.

756
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: They want to do drugs.

757
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: They want to do drugs.

758
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Speaker 1: They want to literally do poppers, which I'm maybe it's

759
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: because they're being taken away and you never know what

760
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: you got till it's gone. I'm such a in a

761
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Speaker 1: pro popper space, right, Oh really Yeah, I like think

762
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: it's really funny to have on a dance floor. I'm

763
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: like I'm like charmed by them.

764
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a different way.

765
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: Somebody when we went to Palm Springs, one of our

766
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: friends had like poppers and he had like a little

767
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: nozzle that like you put on it that so it

768
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't spill, and then you could like put put it

769
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: in your nose and it was so fun and we

770
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: were like out of the bar, like doing poppers and.

771
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Speaker 3: Then like we'd like OWD.

772
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is so fun, well and why

773
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: can't women enjoy that?

774
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: And I think they should?

775
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: So I really think that's a big and I and

776
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Speaker 2: I think, I hate to say it, but that actually

777
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: makes straight fag haggs even more endangered because it's like

778
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: suddenly that they have to keep up with lesbians.

779
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: Now they have to be gay.

780
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: These girls have a husband and he's woke, and he's

781
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: woke folks, Well, my husband's.

782
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Speaker 1: Gone, whoa wait, I just very quickly.

783
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Speaker 2: I really I love the phrasing of this call is

784
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: so straight from a straighter lab listener. It's like this

785
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 2: girl is just like she wants to She like wants

786
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: to both be politically correct but also recognize that. Like

787
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: I know we're all past this, but I used to

788
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: feel like I should say my husband assists head. Uh yep,

789
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm bisexual. Okay, predictable, I know, but that's what I am. Like,

790
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: It's like I recognize her stylist speaking so much because

791
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: it's the exact way I speak.

792
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like self awareness, like the limits of

793
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: self awareness, where.

794
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the the woke husband snake eating his own tail.

795
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 3: I think if he keeps up this whole woke thing,

796
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: he's gonna be suck in his own dick.

797
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: God, bless God, blessed, I think. And I just want

798
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: to say, I celebrate all fag.

799
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: Hags and celebrate all fat eggs.

800
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Speaker 1: And I think, you know when you can say it,

801
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: And I think if you feel in your heart that

802
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: you can say, you can say it.

803
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's of course listen, it's coming from a

804
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: place of love. Yes, Okay, we're skipping. Someone called in

805
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: to tell us that they once served ted Dance and

806
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: gaspacho and he really enjoyed it.

807
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.

808
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: Someone is asking what my go to smoothie recipe is.

809
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you not very interesting, just what I

810
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: have in the fridge. Seven. Okay, let's see.

811
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 10: Hey, you gorgeous guys. Question, Let Mary kill Nathan Fielder,

812
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 10: Ira Glass and Michael Barbaro.

813
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: Okay, bye, this is an amazing question.

814
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Speaker 1: I want to have sex with Michael Barbaro.

815
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: That is crazy.

816
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 3: I think I would.

817
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: Unfortunately have to kill Nathan Fielder just because I think

818
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: being married to him would be really difficult, totally, and

819
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: so I guess by default. I'm marrying Ira Glass, which

820
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: sounds like a really nice stable life, and I think

821
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: we'd have a nice home.

822
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and fuck Nathan Fielder Mary

823
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: Ira Glass kill Michael Barbaro.

824
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: Wow, look at us. You don't want to have sex

825
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 3: with Michael Barbaro. I don't. Here's what else you need

826
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: to know today.

827
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: I actually have really, uh, I really have moved on

828
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: to different white male news podcasters.

829
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't really listen to The Daily anymore,

830
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's still something about him.

831
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: Yep. Have you've seen the photo of him on the

832
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: yellow couch?

833
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: Right? Of course?

834
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's legendary, legend. Okay, next call hi gay guys.

835
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Speaker 14: This is Juliana. I'm calling with more of an alert

836
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 14: than a question. But since the prominence of context queen,

837
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 14: my friend has invented a little extenditure of that, which

838
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 14: is the context pill. And when someone needs a context

839
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 14: till they need to be given context, they are willfully

840
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 14: without context, but they also typically don't want to take

841
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 14: a context pill. So we'll be like, she needs a

842
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 14: context till we need to huy the context hill, and

843
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 14: he says he needs to get her to get contact.

844
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 14: Love your thoughts on that as a praise and as always.

845
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: Love, Wait, Sam, I do want you because again this

846
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: is your big talent of coining verbiage. I want you

847
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: very quickly to talk about the context Diva and what

848
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: she is.

849
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: Well.

850
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: Context Diva was something from our San Francisco show from

851
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: SF sketch Fest, where we were we were like asking

852
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: for more context, and anytime we would say something and

853
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: trying to clarify the context, we would point to one

854
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: person and be like, you're the context queen, You're the

855
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: context Diva.

856
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: And she started, she like started yelling out context. Remember, Yeah,

857
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: that's it.

858
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: That's it, that's it, and we were like, context Diva, right.

859
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: She always knew the context for something, and.

860
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: She being a public notary.

861
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly right. So she was the context Diva.

862
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: Then we got into this whole thing about how like

863
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: there should be a democratically elected context Diva, Like it

864
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: should be a cabinet position. It's someone whose job it

865
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: is when context is lacking to pipe up and give context.

866
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I love the idea of a context pill.

867
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: I really like that is so funny and I very

868
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: much understand how how bitter. A context pill can taste

869
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: like put it in peanut butter for me, because when

870
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: I don't know context and it actually like undermines what

871
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's gonna hurt a bit.

872
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I actually think there's another issue in our society,

873
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: which is that often we're actually over prescribed context pills.

874
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: And that happens when someone it's like your friend who's

875
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: too woke, you know what I mean. It's like me saying, oh,

876
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: I'm entering the house and then someone being like, you know,

877
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: some people can't enter.

878
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're being so correct right now. That's

879
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: so smart.

880
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: And it's like to say that sometimes we're overprescribed the

881
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: context pill. Doesn't mean we're against the context pill. It

882
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: means there is like a time and a place for it.

883
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: It means talk to your doctor.

884
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: It means talk to your doctor to find out if

885
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: the context pill is right for you.

886
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you might be on too high of a dosage.

887
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: And it does get to a point where, if you're

888
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: on too high of a dosage, you become paralyzed because

889
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: all you can see is context and not the thing

890
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 2: at hand. You cannot you literally can't see the forest.

891
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: For the trees literally, and honey, it gets so hard

892
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: to come.

893
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: No, the context I really love. I really love the

894
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: idea of the context pill. And I'm actually smelling merch.

895
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: This episode is really making you be like, damn, we

896
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: do have a lot of phrases. I know, we are

897
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: one of those podcasts that comes up with a lot

898
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: of phrases.

899
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: And they're endlessly generative.

900
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: Well, they actually are really helpful frameworks to see the world.

901
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: Well, are again our main job is creating frameworks, of course,

902
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: that is those are our roots. It is creating theoretical

903
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: frameworks that you can apply to anything in your life.

904
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: If we aren't creating frameworks, we're dead.

905
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: Literally, So take that context pill. Okay, let's see. Okay,

906
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: our minions gey straight? And is HBO Max changing its

907
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: name gear straight? Quickly?

908
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: Go Minions, I'm gonna say gay, and HBO Max I'm

909
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna say that's very I think it's straight.

910
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: Actually, really, you think Hbox changing his name back and

911
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: forth is straight?

912
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think it's like sort of not being

913
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: able to commit. It's being like like, oh I I'm

914
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy, Like it's it's very Demi Levado being

915
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: like I'm they them and then meaning actually, never mind.

916
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, if HBO Max was actually queer, it would change

917
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: its name to Esmeralda and everyone would respect that. Okay,

918
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: next question, Hi, George and Sam.

919
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 15: I was curious, what percentage of guests that you have

920
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 15: on have y'all slept with?

921
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: And let me say something about this context Eva. You

922
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 2: know she's saying fag hag and she should and she should.

923
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm okay, this is an amazing, amazing question, and it's

924
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: so juicy that I just was like, well, we at

925
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: least have to play it. I'm now scrolling through the

926
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: list of our guests just to see.

927
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: I believe my count is I don't know percentage, but

928
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: I believe my count is three. Really, and I'm I'm

929
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: using sleep with pretty liberally. I would say anything that

930
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: I would describe as like a hookup.

931
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling.

932
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: I have one, so let's start there. That's good.

933
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: As I'm scrolling, I'm trying to think who your three are. Okay,

934
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling, scrolling. What if I only have one?

935
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: How pitiful little loser?

936
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm texting you my three.

937
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, and I'm.

938
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Counting that second one is a stretched account. But you

939
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: can also count that one.

940
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: I've traded news with one.

941
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: Oh, if we're going, we're going to We're gonna have

942
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: to We're gonna have to take a different context bill.

943
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I literally think mine is just one still scrolling?

944
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: Is it the one we share?

945
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: No, so I guess that's two. But we didn't really

946
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: hook up. I feel we made out.

947
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: That will say. Oh, that's why I'm saying it's a

948
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: stretch to count that one.

949
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 3: Okay, then in that case, then.

950
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: You have two and I have three. We're using we're

951
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: using the queer definition. We're making out counts.

952
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: We're making out counts. Okay, just double triple checking because

953
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: honesty is so important. We have a lot of people

954
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: i'd like to hook up with. Oh wait, nope, that

955
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: one counts. So now I'm at three.

956
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: Wait, send them to me. All right, let's actually think

957
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: we have to move on.

958
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but fukay three, we both have three.

959
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: We both have three. That's really amazing.

960
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: That's really awesome.

961
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: And only one overlap, and only one overlap, and that

962
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: overlap is the least sexual.

963
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one that's a stretch for both of us.

964
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: It's a stretch for both of us.

965
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 9: Okay, Hi Sama and George, This Danny and Peter. A

966
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 9: question that we have is, in the year eight hundred,

967
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 9: what would your role be in the village. A couple

968
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 9: of the answers that we've had before is taste tester

969
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 9: for the king. Our friend has Celiac's disease and is

970
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 9: constantly shooting his pants, so everybody thinks he's poisoning.

971
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 7: We've also had poop Catcher.

972
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 3: Both poop related. I'm picking up on a theme. I

973
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 3: don't know.

974
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, ideally I would be sort of a prince. Yeah,

975
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: and I would be unemployed for the for the most part.

976
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: I'd have a wife, but I would of course hook

977
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: up with my the man who addressed me every morning.

978
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And that's pretty much my deal.

979
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: So you're why you want to be a prince.

980
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: I think I'm prince, Okay, because I'm either prince or I'm.

981
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: Dead, Like, I don't have the the chutzpah to you know,

982
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: drive in this type of environment.

983
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: I believe ultimately I would be you know, I would

984
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: be a columnist. I think that I would be trying

985
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: to put together like a zine, you know, on papyrus

986
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: or raw or stones or whatever was available. And I

987
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: think I would not be good enough at not making

988
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: the right enemy or at not making the wrong enemies.

989
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: And I think I'd be like really successful for two

990
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 2: years and then I would get murdered, Like I would

991
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: get executed basically in the town square.

992
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: Well, that would be fun. I would definitely show up

993
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: to that.

994
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

995
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: I would also be like really obsessed with being upwardly mobile,

996
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: but it's like that's not possible in these times. I

997
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: would think I'd be the first one to live the

998
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: American dream in the year eight hundred. Okay, next question.

999
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: This is a groundbreaking episode.

1000
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 11: Hi, Divas. I was wondering if you've been to the

1001
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 11: news gay bar Playhouse, and if you have.

1002
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: A review, say Trudi bye, So you haven't, I have not.

1003
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: This is a new gay bar.

1004
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't realize it was new. I mean I

1005
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: went like two years ago. Am I crazy? Hold on,

1006
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: I'm looking this up. I'm looking this up Playhouse, New

1007
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: York City. Well, regardless of whether it's you or not,

1008
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: I have been once with Josh Sharp and I had

1009
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: the time of my damn life. Our dear friend Izzy

1010
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: Uncutt was performing. She absolutely ate down. It was like

1011
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: the perfect level of crowded. It's a cute space. I

1012
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: thought the crowd was fun. Ultimately, it's not like where

1013
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: I want to go every Friday night. I would say

1014
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: it exists in this midway point between, Like on the

1015
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: one end you have something like Julius, which is so

1016
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: vintage and cool that it's like it will never be lame.

1017
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: And then on the other end you have like a

1018
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: Marie Crisis, which is so a musical theater and old

1019
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: queen and piano that it's like camp. Yeah, Playhouse is

1020
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: like in the middle, so it kind of could go

1021
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: either way. Does that make sense?

1022
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

1023
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: It's not like cool enough to be cool, but it's

1024
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: not uh like embarrassing enough to be reclaimed.

1025
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 3: Would you say it's Philly?

1026
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: It is Philly?

1027
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Playhouse is Philly.

1028
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: But I again, I had a really great time there

1029
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: and I and I would go back, and in fact,

1030
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: I now want to go back.

1031
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: I went to the most Philly restaurant this morning.

1032
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what was it?

1033
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 7: It was?

1034
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: It's called like La mill or something, but it was

1035
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: like the deck core was like where did you find this?

1036
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: Like it was like a weird like I was in

1037
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: the mall or like a bank lobby or something.

1038
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, there's like no time for this, but you know,

1039
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 2: I just got back from Denver.

1040
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 3: Oh wow, we.

1041
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: Actually need to discuss this. Maybe we'll discuss on patron

1042
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: but so fans might remember our second episode ever, that

1043
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: topic was Denver. Max's topic was Denver his straight topic.

1044
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 2: Obviously at that time we would never actually talk about

1045
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: the straight topic. So if you go back, you're not

1046
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: going to find any insights about the city of Denver.

1047
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: But as a straight topic, it was so perfectly chosen

1048
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: because it really is the most heterosexual city I've ever

1049
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: been to. Wow, it is like everything you think of

1050
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: as kind of twenty tens gentrification chic, like the beer hall,

1051
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: the converted warehouse, the coffee shop that is a refurbished

1052
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 2: storage unit, you know what I mean. Like the giant

1053
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 2: market hall that has a bunch of different food courts

1054
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: in it. Like that is the entire city. It's crazy.

1055
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes in a place like that it can be a

1056
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: little bit erotic because you're like, this is so straight.

1057
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: There must be like a CD underground, Like people are

1058
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: like hooking up total fly? Did you feel any like

1059
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: CD Undertone? Did you pop on the Sniffies or something?

1060
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: I should have? I mean I didn't because there was

1061
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: literally no way it would have. I was there with

1062
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: two friends and we were there for like forty eight hours,

1063
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: and like sure, sure I was not going to hook up,

1064
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 2: and so I didn't. I I will say my feelings

1065
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: about the city aside. I loved the people, Like everyone

1066
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: you it was this weird thing where everything seemed so bland,

1067
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: but then the food was great, the people were nice,

1068
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like other cities which I won't name,

1069
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh my god, like get me out

1070
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: of here. Why is nothing working? Like why can't I

1071
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: go to a coffee shop and get a croissant? Like

1072
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: everywhere we went like it was good because again it's

1073
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: like it's this gentrification vibe, like it's like getting new

1074
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 2: blood to the area, getting the coffee shops, getting the

1075
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: concert venues. Like it was good where it needed to be.

1076
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: But then you couldn't take a walk.

1077
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

1078
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, don't whatever, don't get mad at me. Okay,

1079
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: all right, well here's here's one. Here's here's one.

1080
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: Oh, and here's one for Heyday guys.

1081
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 8: Wanted to call in and see what you guys think

1082
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 8: about bald guys, Bald gay guys in particular. I recently

1083
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 8: gave in and shaved.

1084
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 7: My head and.

1085
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 8: I am having a hard time addressing to it. But

1086
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 8: I think it looks good overall. So just when you

1087
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 8: think about twenty nine year old gay men who are bald,

1088
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 8: do people respect me? I think it looks good, but

1089
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 8: I want to know what you think, especially George as

1090
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 8: somebody with great hair that goes for the buzz cut

1091
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 8: and why love you guys?

1092
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1093
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: I think bald is very hot. I think it's complex,

1094
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: of course, because it's like losing one's hair is always

1095
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: like jarring because you're like, but like when you meet

1096
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: someone who is bald, you like don't know them from

1097
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: having hair, and so you're like, you look great, like,

1098
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: but I see the losing can be traumatic and weird.

1099
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: It's like one of those things like height that it's like,

1100
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: no matter where we are in acceptance, it's going to

1101
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: be an internalized stigma.

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00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: It's also because of like drugs and stuff that are

1103
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: now like make it possible to have it be a

1104
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: little more optional. It is like it's we're in an

1105
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: interesting place with it where it's like do you like fight,

1106
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: do you fight like hell and be like I'm going

1107
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: to keep my hair out all costs or are you

1108
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: like like it is sort of like I'm I'm going

1109
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: to be a bald guy. Like there's something of like

1110
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that now.

1111
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: That is it's interesting.

1112
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: I like they're almost like bald guys are almost like

1113
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: going extinct in a way. Like you watch shows from

1114
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: like the nineties and you're like, like main characters are bald,

1115
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: whereas like now if you watch a show there, they

1116
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: ain't having a bald guy on TV.

1117
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: Well, and I think it's as you said, it's actually

1118
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: this is related to spin drift. I think you I

1119
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: think you can have a fully bald man on TV,

1120
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 2: and you can have a fully not bald man on TV.

1121
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: What you don't get anywhere that you got in the

1122
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: seventies and eighties is a balding man like just fully

1123
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: you know, again someone who like has less hair on

1124
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: top because he is in the process of balding. Yeah,

1125
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: that at some point was it was decided that that

1126
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: was not allowed to be on.

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: Screen, Yeah, it's annoying. I also, I find a bald

1128
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: spot to be very hot.

1129
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: It's like so masculine to me, totally, totally, it's very masculine. Yeah,

1130
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: it's funny because people think of balding like the stigma

1131
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: is that it's somehow emasculating, when in fact it is

1132
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: the most masculine thing you can have.

1133
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very sexy.

1134
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: You know, one of my big crushes, Corey Stole, is bald.

1135
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's true, I will say on a personal level,

1136
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: because I grew up with a bald dad. My dad

1137
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: has been fully bald since he was like twenty five,

1138
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: like legitimately, like I haven't even seen like maybe he

1139
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: was balding in his early twenties, but like as far

1140
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: back as photos go, especially photos with me being alive,

1141
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: he is fully bald. And so it is difficult not

1142
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: to associate boldness with my dad, which then makes it

1143
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: challenging on a sexual attraction level. Sure, I mean that's interesting,

1144
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: and it's like like I'm like, what is that the

1145
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: equivalent for you?

1146
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, You're like the opposite of Freud, Like

1147
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: I know, literally you should like kind of find it

1148
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: more hot.

1149
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: I know it's and I guess I go back and forth.

1150
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: It's not like I don't it's not like I don't

1151
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: find it hot, but I but there is just something.

1152
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: And it was also always such a joke, like he

1153
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: was always so self deprecating about it was always like

1154
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: a thing that he was bald. It was like, you know,

1155
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: he'd go to the you know, because he has hair

1156
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: like in the back of his head. He would like

1157
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: go get a haircut and be like, I need a haircut,

1158
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: and my mom would be like, do you like where

1159
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: like show show me where they're gonna cut their you know.

1160
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: It was such a such an ongoing joke. It's like

1161
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: if like you have like a fat and all the

1162
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: jokes are about how he's fat or something.

1163
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's a It is.

1164
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: One of the it's a tough one. Yeah.

1165
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: But to answer this listener's question, like, no one is

1166
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: thinking no, there's no one that's being like, oh god,

1167
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: he's bald.

1168
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, what weld is in?

1169
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about your hair journey with

1170
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: since he oh, yes, the buzz cut.

1171
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: So, first of all, I actually do have great hair objectively,

1172
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: but because it is so unwieldy and thick. It's sort

1173
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: of like it looks like politician hair when it grows out,

1174
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: like I look like Rob Lagoyevitch. Like it's just very

1175
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: like thick. It like grows out in all directions. And

1176
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: I've just never been good at taking care of it

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01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: or knowing what product you use, or knowing like where

1178
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: to go to get a good haircut. And I actually

1179
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: think I look fine with a buzzed head, Like I

1180
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: genuinely like how I look, and so it just is easier,

1181
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: it's cheaper and like I don't have to think about it,

1182
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: and that's sort of my But then occasionally, honestly, I

1183
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: was thinking about this when I was looking at recent

1184
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: photos of Pedro Bescal, who I do think has potentially

1185
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: opted to not be bald. But I was like, damn,

1186
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: he has some great hair, Like maybe I should grow

1187
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: my hair out and have like a nice little.

1188
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 3: Poof If anyone could figure it out, it's you.

1189
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: Oh stop, But anyway, that's my journey. Yeah, okay, let's

1190
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: do a last call.

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01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 7: And was what is from Alaska?

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01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 15: I was actually dead for this weekend, and I saw

1193
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 15: George that you were here too, And my brother went

1194
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 15: the same rock show, and I was having heared to you, but.

1195
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 7: He did not.

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01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 15: My question is like, what's to do with taking shirt

1197
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 15: off in the clubs like the gay bar, the gig club?

1198
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 7: Right, Like, what is that?

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 15: It's last Friday. I was at xbar and.

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01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 7: It seems there was a group of.

1201
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 15: Guys being kind of rowdy with their shirts off, and

1202
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 15: I was kind of watching them, like they are straight

1203
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 15: guys will take their shirts off because their outfits are

1204
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 15: just too immaculate, Like what's going on there?

1205
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 7: All right? Thank you guys, love you.

1206
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: So this is like a really confusing call.

1207
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 3: I have to say, I'm mostly confused.

1208
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: I think we can answer it.

1209
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna take We're gonna make our own questions.

1210
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: We're going to make our own question. I also think

1211
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: I maybe can't hear part of what he's saying at

1212
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: the end, because I'm like I was right there with him.

1213
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, we're answering a question about why gay

1214
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: guys take their shirts off at the bars. But then

1215
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: he was like, I was at acbar and straight guys

1216
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: took their shirts off at the bar.

1217
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 3: Did he say he's at acbar?

1218
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: I thought he did.

1219
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: Hold on, but he's from Alaska.

1220
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 15: Friday, I was at xbar and.

1221
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was at X bar. He is censoring

1222
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: the name of the bar. He was not at acturate.

1223
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: Got it, got it? Got it?

1224
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: So all right, Sam, Actually I would like you to

1225
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: take this.

1226
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna discuss vaguely what it means to take

1227
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: your shirt off at a bar.

1228
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1229
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: So I have a really complex relationship with it because

1230
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: I actually find it fun and such a like like

1231
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: gay tradition to be like we're all shirtless dancing.

1232
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: That is so.

1233
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: Fun and throwback. But then it does get into like

1234
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: toxic territory very quickly, where then you're like seeing all

1235
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: these bodies and all the bodies are like the same,

1236
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, now I feel gross, Like now

1237
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: I feel the competition.

1238
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: Now I feel the like self.

1239
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: Consciousness and like in a way where I'm like it's

1240
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: supposed to feel like wow, like bodies on bodies on bodies,

1241
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: and said, it's like it like almost gets like militaristic

1242
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: and like unsexy. So I I personally am like very

1243
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: torn on whether or not to take my shirt off

1244
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: at a bar. I think, like, so there's this party,

1245
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: the summer party, here in La called Bears and Space,

1246
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: which is so to die for, And it happens like

1247
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: once a month in the summer at in the Acbar

1248
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: parking lot, and that's a really fun like everyone takes

1249
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: their shirts off because it's hot out and it's like

1250
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: a summer daytime party and it's like but it's all

1251
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: different types of bodies and it's not like.

1252
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 3: A circuit party.

1253
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: It's just sort of like mingling with that loud music

1254
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: with your shirt off, and it's like fun, and so

1255
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: that one feels like more ethical, but then the other one,

1256
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: Like I've been at parties where it's like like I

1257
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: had my shirt off and then I saw the other

1258
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: types of people that had their shirt off and they

1259
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: had those muscle muscle bodies, and I was like, wait,

1260
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: I hate this. I don't want to be associated with them.

1261
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that's how I feel.

1262
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's sort of it's almost if you

1263
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: zoom out a little bit, it's almost like you can

1264
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: appreciate it as just like an encapsulation of the gay

1265
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: guy experience where you're like this push and pull between

1266
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 2: feeling liberated and feeling completely insecure and marginalized is like

1267
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: that is just the day to day experience of being

1268
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: in community with gay men, and I think oftentimes people

1269
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: focus on only one of those elements. It's like either

1270
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: the story is that you persevered and you self actualized,

1271
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: or the story is like, oh God, poor me, I'm

1272
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: not the thing that I'm supposed to be, and so

1273
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: I don't fit into this community. And I unfortunately think

1274
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: anywhere you are and no matter what you're like different

1275
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: subidentity is it just is part of the experience of

1276
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: being gay to feel both, because the thing you realize

1277
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: as you meet these muscle guys is they are the

1278
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: most insecure of all and that's yeah, not all of them,

1279
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: but many of them. That is why in fact they

1280
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: are so like they work so hard, and they plan

1281
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: often their entire life around looking a certain way.

1282
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 3: You know what, I will say, I always have fun at.

1283
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: I would say an underwear party. I actually find sort

1284
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: of the proper level of silly. I find that an

1285
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: underwear party has like more humility than a shirtless party,

1286
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: whereas like shirtless is sort of like you're just like,

1287
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: look at my muscles sometimes, and then underwear party is

1288
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: more like this is kind of embarrassing.

1289
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: Like we're all in our underwear like this.

1290
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: I disagree. Really yeah, I think underwear underwear stresses me

1291
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: out more. I don't like I really don't honestly don't

1292
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: like wearing a drop strap, and like there's just something

1293
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: I would much rather. And also, if you're the only

1294
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: one not in his underwear and underwear party, you stick

1295
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: out way more than if you're the only one in

1296
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: like a T shirt at a shirtless party. And I'm

1297
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: sort of like, if I go into a shirtless party,

1298
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: depending on how good I feel, depending on how what

1299
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: my mood is, maybe I can take my shirt off,

1300
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: maybe I can keep it on. Maybe I can like

1301
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: sort of have like a little fanny pack over my

1302
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: over my torso and then be halfway through, halfway there.

1303
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: But like, there is something I feel trapped in an

1304
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 2: underwear party.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I feel so settled in.

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Speaker 1: There's something where I'm like, we're all, we have to

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: we're all it's like mutually just it's mutual destruction. Is

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Speaker 1: that that thing where you're like we're all the same

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Speaker 1: level of like embarrassed right now?

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Speaker 2: I guess I see, I see what you're saying. But

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Speaker 2: I think if everyone agreed that that would be the vibe,

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Speaker 2: then I would like it. But then you see people

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Speaker 2: that have like laser eyes and they're like so jeed

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Speaker 2: out and like looking for something specific, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh no, why can't why are you not being fun?

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good points.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, it's interesting. I want to just briefly touch

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Speaker 2: on the idea that straight guys take their shirts off

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Speaker 2: and gay guys don't, because I understand I think I

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Speaker 2: understand the vibe this person is going for, which is

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Speaker 2: like almost like a tailgate adjacent, like guy that's like

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Speaker 2: come on and then like rips his shirt off, like

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing. But my answer to that would

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Speaker 2: just be I promise you gay guys are taking their

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Speaker 2: shirts off as well.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna go ahead and be taking their shirts off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I will say when I was in college, my straight

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: guy friend group, we would famous we would take our

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Speaker 1: shirts off all the time at parties because we thought

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Speaker 1: it was funny.

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Speaker 3: And it was kind of crazy. In retrospect, it was weird.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is making me excited for summer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, summer. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I had a pool day and it was to die for.

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Speaker 1: I got that summer feeling.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a pool day at your pool or

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Speaker 2: someone else. Yeah, damn. And you know I had people

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Speaker 2: over for your vision. Both had things. I was like.

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Speaker 2: I was like, actually, someone was like, you guys talk

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Speaker 2: about your vision. I was like, damn, next year, maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll make Sam watch and then we can talk.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm ready to watch.

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Speaker 2: But uh no, I when you were talking to me

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Speaker 2: last week about how you're gonna have people over at

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01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: your pool, I was so jealous. What did you did?

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01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,480
Speaker 2: You end up doing gay guys, mixed.

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Speaker 3: Co workers, very very small list of gay.

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Speaker 2: Coworkers okay, interesting.

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: And and then like random gay guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so gay guys.

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Speaker 1: But but I didn't go like I didn't go very

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Speaker 1: wide with it, like and I didn't go like comedy

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01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: with it. I went like just like gay guys totally.

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Speaker 1: But it was it was it was really fun.

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Speaker 2: And actually I did that. So when I had people

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Speaker 2: are for your vision, Josh was the only comedian, and wow,

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Speaker 2: if you can believe them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love comedians. Let's start there.

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Speaker 2: Let's start there.

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Speaker 1: But it is the way they socialize is like frantic

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: and like all the wrong instincts.

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Speaker 2: Like also, it makes me not be at my best sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Too, I completely join in. I'm like yeah, like I'm

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Speaker 1: Comedians love to.

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01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 3: Gather where they're not supposed to.

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01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: They love to like just be in like the doorway

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01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: of the entrance, and it's like, no, come have be

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01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: part of this.

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 3: You're part of this. It's so crazy.

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Speaker 2: They're always they always have to be in the core.

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Speaker 2: They always have to be in the minority. They have

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Speaker 2: to be in a corner observing. Yeah, and they are

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01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: never actually part of the space that they're in. They

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Speaker 2: are always friendly bowits.

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Speaker 3: They are literally the kids at an adult party at

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Speaker 3: all times.

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Speaker 1: One hundred have to give them their own table. They

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: need their own room, like sometimes they need like their

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: own drink station.

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Speaker 3: It is like, it's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing, and of course it's also beautiful because it

1382
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: we you know, it gives you an excuse to be

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: a child forever.

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: That's true.

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, never forget your Christmas party where we all live.

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01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: That literally a whole room that was just the comedians

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01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: and everyone else was just it at a normal holiday party.

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01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 3: That was so funny.

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: Arguably also happened at my wedding.

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01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 3: That's true. That is true.

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: And they have a way of making you feel like

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Speaker 1: you're missing out, Like when I was like, you know,

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01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: talking to your parents out of.

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Speaker 3: The corner of my eye.

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01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: See all the comedian's not gonna go oh my by

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01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: they're having so much fun. I'm a fucking loser over here.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Wow this episode was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, start to finish, I think I'm gonna be thinking

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Speaker 1: about expired quirk a lot expire quirk a context pill,

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Speaker 1: context Pill, Denver.

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01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 2: Denver, Which time sister is Boston, San Francisco or DC.

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01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 2: A rural lesbian calling us to ask her what she

1404
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 2: should know about culture?

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: I mean the fag hag discussion. I'm like, this is

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01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 2: one of our best calling shows in forever.

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Speaker 1: And reminder, you can always call in at three eight

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01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: five gay guys and leave a voicemail and we're gonna

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01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: do these intermittently.

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01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: So and we yes, and we do them on the

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01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: Patreon even more frequently. So you can always join that

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: by going to patreon dot com slash stradio lab.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to say thanks for listening, and.

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: I want to agree. I want to agree with Sam

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Speaker 2: in his gratitude for your listenership.

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01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: And uh, I feel like we I keep going to

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Speaker 1: be like, like, I have this urge to say so something, yeah,

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: be like and check us out.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, we don't actually have anything to announce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yet, but we will, but we will. And I

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Speaker 2: just want to say, have a great summer.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, you guys, it's here. It's pretty much here. And George,

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Speaker 3: have an amazing time in Italy.

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01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: Thank you, and hope that your flight's an amazing time.

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Speaker 2: Cleaning your room.

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Speaker 7: My room.

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Speaker 3: My room is the dirtiest it's ever been. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Hurt when we go on tour. I'm giving you a deadline.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have tsa pre check before we leave for tour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta figure that.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 1: I about to be unemployed, so I'll have a lot

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Speaker 1: of time to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: I literally procrastinated on it for a full ten years

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Speaker 2: of my life. Got global entry, which includes pre check.

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Speaker 2: I just traveled to Denver use it for the first

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01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: time to not feel like cattle, to just like it's

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01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: like I'm costplaying nineteen ninety seven pre nine to eleven

1441
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: airport experience.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. I can't imagine what that's like it's nuts.

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01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: Even at JFK, I feel like there's no way to

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01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: not feel like cattle there.

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01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you're all kind of feeling like cattle,

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01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: but you're definitely feeling like upper middle class cattle.

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 3: Hey, I'll take it. I'm a prize pig.

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01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:16,439
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