1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show coming 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: to you across the nation. Buck is in la I 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: am here in Nashville, and we are taking you into 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: what hopefully will be a fantastic weekend for all of you, 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: no matter what part of the country you are in. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: President of the United States at the Ryder Cup. I 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: don't know if you follow the Ryder Cup at all, Buck, 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: but it is taking place in New York City area, 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: and we are getting smoked early by the Euros, which 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: is not a good start competition between the European golfers 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: and the American golfers. 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: We are down three to one. 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Some of the videos of Trump flying over the golf 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: course of the USA Chance, it's pretty awesome, and so 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: I know many of you are going to be following 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: this throughout the course of the weekend. Farmingdale, New York. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Buck is where Bethpage Black is hosting this. It's a 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: public course, Beth Page one of the great golf courses 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: in America, and that is where Trump is going to be. 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Would not surprise me. We've got some audio of Trump 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: speaking as he was boarding alongside of his granddaughter Kai, 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: who we met. Buck up at the Trump Course in 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: New Jersey at Bedminster before. She was a golfer who 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: is a college athlete now at the University of Miami. 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: So they flew together to go to watch the tournament. 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: I bet a huge percentage of our audience is paying 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: attention here, Buck. Do you know anything about the Ryder Cup? 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: No, But I want to know. 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: Has President Trump ever seen the famous Clay Travis swing, 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: because I've seen it on video. 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has lied and said that the Clay Travis 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: golf swing is good, which is a sign that Trump 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: is actually a really nice. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: He's a great man. He's a great guy. Yeah. 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: In fact, maybe we could grab I don't think we 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: played it, but producer Greg I'm sure saw it. Scotti Scheffler, 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: who is the best golfer in the world, talked about 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: out what Trump is like on his golf courses and 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: hanging out around the golf community. What's amazing is all 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: the euro golfers love him too. So this is going 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: to be Trump and his element. That is where he 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: is right now now. He broke a couple of news 43 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: stories as he was about to board Marine one to 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: begin the process of flying up there this weekend. In fact, 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: he said that he thought they had potentially a deal 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: in Gaza, which would obviously be a huge deal if 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: we finally got a ceasefire nearly two years to the 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: day after the October seventh terror attacks from Hamas. But 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: President Trump, not surprisingly, the biggest story, and we're going 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: to dive into this in detail and we will walk 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: you through everything is yesterday evening news broke that James Comey, 52 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: former FBI director, had been had been indicted. And here 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: is Trump saying Coby lied. He lied a lot. Was 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: just a little bit earlier as he was flying to 55 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup. 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: Cut two. 57 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: It was about justice. 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: He lied, he lied a lot. 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 5: But this was a very important thing. Was he could 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 5: have said, well maybe or I don't remember. 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: He didn't say that. 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 5: He gave a very specific answer, and then he verified 63 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 5: it numerous times and he got caught. The problem that 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 5: Komy has is he got caught lying, and he was 65 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: very strong. It's not like well maybe or I don't remember, 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 5: or he gave a very specific answer because it was 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 5: a very powerful question, a very important question. And when 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: he gave the answer, the only problem is he got caught. 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that's cut too here's cut four buck of Trump 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: again saying, this is not a hard case. 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: He lied. He didn't think he was going to get caught. 72 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: Cut for it's a pretty easy case because he lied. 73 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: You show my truth today. 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 5: He lied it. 75 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: Yes, he didn't say well, in. 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: My opinion, he didn't do a lot of things that maybe. 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: He should have. 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: But I don't think he could because he lied. That 79 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: was a very important question that he was in and 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: he wanted to be specific, but he didn't. 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: The only thing that. 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 5: Happened to him, he didn't think he'd get gone. That 83 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 5: was a very important answer, and it was very for him. 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 5: It was a very good answer if he didn't get caught, 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 5: but he got caught. 86 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: Lying to Congo. 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Okay, so charges now from northern Virginia. This is a 88 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: very blue area. We talked about this some yesterday Alexandria area. 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: Two different charges brought an indicted against Komy by the 90 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: grand jury. Buck, you covered this Russia mess way more 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: than me. What's your reaction. 92 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: Well, I think for a lot of people, the sense 93 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: is finally something has been done. Finally there could be 94 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: and I want to emphasize could there could be accountability 95 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: for the This is more than just the lies that 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: Comy told, because the lies were in the service of 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: the Russia collusion hoax. So the lies that Comy told, 98 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: and as Trump was hammering there, these are material lies, right, 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: these are lies that have meaning and significance. It's not oh, 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: in a three hour long FBI sit down, which, as 101 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: Clay has told you, never without a lawyer, never without 102 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: a lawyer. 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: That that is the most whenever you're talking to. 104 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 3: The FBI in the three hour long sit down, you 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: forgot what you had for breakfast last week, that you 106 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: would be able to argue even if it was untrue 107 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: and correct, it's immaterial. In this case, Trump has made 108 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: it clear it is quite material. 109 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: It is an. 110 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: Important issue of fact that he was lying about and 111 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: the lie was part of obstructing justice, which is why 112 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: that charge has also come to the forefront. But now 113 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: here's where we get to analyze what comes next to it. 114 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: So on the one hand, I think Clay, this this 115 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: needed to happen because there was a clear two tiered 116 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: system of justice at work and Comy I might has 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: been a pioneer or on the forefront of that, and 118 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people are pointing out myself included that 119 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: Comy was far and away the guy who wanted Martha 120 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: Stewart prosecuted for what was really a he said she 121 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: said on a phone call with the broker about conduct 122 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: that was not actually criminal. She did not actually do 123 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: anything illegal other than she said that they did that 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: he did. You know, she did say she was going 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: to sell or whatever it was. There was some dispute 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: over what was said on that phone call and the broker. 127 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: I think with the broker it was we'll say what 128 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: we want you to say, and you get to walk 129 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: clean and free. 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: Right, that's easy. So people realize that Kmy. 131 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: Has been using it's you know, it's US code one 132 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: zero zero one is the line to the FBI statute 133 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: or it's really lying to federal agents, but the FBI 134 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 3: is the one that uses it the most. This this 135 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: is something that he's been a big proponent of. So 136 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: it feels like what's good for the goose is good 137 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: for the gander. That's part one of it. The other 138 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: thing is, as we love to say on the show, 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: the process is the punishment, and that's important to keep 140 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: in mind here. The process is part of accountability. The 141 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: decision to prosecute is itself a punishment, which is why 142 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 3: prosecutors have such a fearsome level of power in this country, 143 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: because the decision to prosecute is usually the decision to destroy, 144 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: even if you're innocent, it's gonna cost you a ton 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: of money, it's going to hurt your reputation, all that stuff. 146 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: But now, Clay, we can get into and I know 147 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: you're going to have strong thoughts on this one. You 148 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: alluded to this. 149 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: It's in Northern Virginia. 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: It's at the judge is I think an Obama appointee, right, Yes, 151 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Obama appoint e judge Northern Virginia, a roughly eighty percent 152 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 3: Democrat jurisdiction. At all it takes is one purple haired 153 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: hashtag resistance cat lady or guy who works at the 154 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: Commerce Department or whatever to say, I'm just not letting 155 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: anybody who goes after Trump go to prison. 156 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't care what for. 157 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: And at worse you get, you're at either a hung 158 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: jury or an acquittal. So I want everyone's expectations to 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: be kept in line here. I think it's the right 160 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: move because it's what's true and what the statutes require. 161 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: But I don't know if we're gonna get to a conviction. 162 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm impressed that they got a grand jury indictment. They 163 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: got two of them. They reportedly brought three. One was 164 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: struck down and not given the indictment. Two of the 165 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: three were. But what Buck just hit is the key. 166 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I've been saying, and I 167 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: understand people get upset that I even talk about it. 168 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: We're playing with a rigged justice system by being required 169 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: to get indictments in DC area cases that are predicated 170 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: on blue strongholds. Democrats will indict Republicans for anything. We 171 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: have a ninety five to five in Washington, DC. To 172 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Buck's point, it's probably eighty twenty seventy five twenty five 173 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: in northern Virginia, and so I think there's gonna be 174 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: at least one juror who refuses to convict no matter 175 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: what the evidence shows. It wouldn't shock me, Buck if 176 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: this Obama and pointed judge finds a reason to toss 177 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: these indictments. I think you have to prepare yourself for 178 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: the fact that you are not on an even playing field. 179 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: From a sports analogy, you're starting off and the scoreboards 180 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: already got you down twenty one points. Before you even 181 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: snapped the ball. And I think this is the right result. 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: I give credit to the prosecutors. 183 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: The son in law. 184 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: Of Komi was in the Northern district of virgin Did 185 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: you see this? He resigned. The son in law is 186 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: inside of the office. I mean, this is one of 187 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: the craziest things I've ever seen. Now, I'm sure they 188 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: tried to wall him off, I would think from being 189 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: involved in investigating his father in law. But the fact 190 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: that this guy is employed there is a sign of 191 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: how deep the swamp is, wasn't it, Marie Comy. 192 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: He's employed in New York, in the most important federal 193 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: district there. These people's the one who messed up the 194 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: ditty case. 195 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: And then she got forced out and now I think 196 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: she's suing or something like that. These people, man, they 197 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: rig the system in so many different ways to have 198 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: their allies. 199 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: And here's what I've said. For a long time. 200 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: You've been on this, but I think the average person 201 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,479 Speaker 1: has just become aware of it. Violent crime is relatively 202 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: easy to prosecute. 203 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: In theory. 204 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: If you run up to somebody with a gun and 205 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: you rob them, it's pretty self evident that a crime happened. 206 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: If a dead body shows up with bullet holes and 207 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: or stab wounds or something, is a pretty good sign 208 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: that a murder happened. Where these prosecutors have all their 209 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: power is I guarantee you everyone listening out there who 210 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: thinks that they have led an upstanding life and never 211 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: done anything wrong. If a federal prosecutor decided to investigate 212 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: you and spend a year going through every tax return 213 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: you've ever filed, and spent a year asking you to 214 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: sit down for every interview and examined every property transfer 215 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: you've ever been involved in, ever employment contract you've ever signed, 216 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: they would find a way. 217 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: To prosecute you. 218 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: And that is where the will and the power of 219 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: the state has been marshaled. It was used against Trump, 220 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: and now we'll see if Komi can be convicted of crimes. 221 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: But spare me all the hand ringing. We told you 222 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: this when they crossed the rubicon and indicted Trump in 223 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: New York, in Georgia, in Florida, and in DC. The 224 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: gloves were officially off. All of that came at the 225 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: direct behest of Joe Biden. So spare me the Oh 226 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: my goodness, our republic is now being challenged. If you 227 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: didn't say a war when they came after Trump. 228 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: It's very straightforward for me. Did he break the law? 229 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting is that there used to 230 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: be this presumption I think of, oh, well, because of 231 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: the politics involved, maybe we let this one slide. I'm 232 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: not saying I agree with that presumption. I'm just saying, oh, 233 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: the former FBI director, it's bad. It's a bad look 234 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: for all of us if you were to go after 235 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: somebody like that. And then they went after a former 236 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 3: president and current president now four times with absolute garbage prosecutions. 237 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: So they crossed the rubicon over and over. I mean, 238 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: the rubicon doesn't even exist anymore. They've erased the rubicon, 239 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: all right. They pushed so that there's no more political 240 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: question overriding a legal question, and in fact, I would 241 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: argue they took it even further where they fabricated a 242 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: legal issue in. 243 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: The service of politics. 244 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: What I'm saying here, Clay, is if Comy broke the law, laws, 245 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: the law he presided over plenty of prosecutions. Remember, he 246 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: was a US attorney previously before he was at the FBI. 247 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: He's really a lawyer. 248 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: He's not like a g man FBI guy for his career. 249 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: He was a lawyer and a very politically you know, 250 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: maneuverable one in the Justice Department and then eventually found 251 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: himself all the way at the head of the FBI. 252 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: He sent plenty of people to prison for exactly this 253 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: lying in the course of an investigation, and he would 254 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: have sent Donald Trump to prison for Hevin Nosway. He 255 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: was the one who orchestrated and we played that audio 256 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: for everybody yesterday, the destruction and prosecution, you know, the 257 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: career destruction and prosecution of General Michael Flynn. And he 258 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: thinks it's funny. So you know what, I think this 259 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: is funny. I think Komy should have to lawyer up. 260 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: I think it's a fair prosecution based upon the facts 261 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: presented in the case. And I think that we now 262 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 3: have to have one system of justice for all of 263 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: us to operate under. And you know, they're the ones 264 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: that pushed into the Laventi Bearrriot category. You know, the 265 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: old head of the NKVD, which people think of as 266 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: the KGB, but it was called the NKVD, who said 267 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 3: you show me the man, I'll show you the crime. 268 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: They did that to Trump. They fabricated crimes this is 269 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: Comy broke the law. 270 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. 271 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, somebody broke the law for sure. Because 272 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: if you compare, and if you want to get into 273 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty, and maybe we will a bit, if 274 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: you compare the testimony, I think it was Senator Ted 275 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: Cruz who really kind of went at the details here. 276 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: If you compare the testimony relating to Russia collusion about 277 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: whether or not there was any instruction to leak information, one, 278 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: I think it was McCabe testified, yes, there was an 279 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: instruction to leak information. Uh, and then Comy says, no, 280 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: there was no instruction. Well, both can't be telling the truth. 281 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: So someone is lying and we know there was a leak. 282 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: So how someone either one of them spending six months 283 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: in a minimum security federal federal prison or federal camp 284 00:14:59,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: as I think they called. 285 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes seems like it could. 286 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: It seems like it could be a fair outcome. Will 287 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: it happen? I think that's different. That's not very likely, 288 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: but we'll see. But there also could be other indictments, 289 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: which we should talk about here in a second. 290 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: We'll get to that. 291 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: It's big news. Comy indicted. Finally, he's such a punk honestly, 292 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: I really you know that the emailer yesterday was like 293 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: buckets fired up about Comy because Claid was following the 294 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: Russia collusion thing very very closely, and the President was 295 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: retweeting a lot of my assessments of what was going 296 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: on with the Russia collusion, and Komy was an absolute 297 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: dirt bag over the whole thing. All right, Look, a 298 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: weekend from now, not this Saturday, but next Sunday, October fifth, 299 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: You're likely to see a remarkable display of humanity. You'll 300 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: see Israeli flags on full display in your community, and 301 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: it's not too late for you to join them. This 302 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: is a movement of support for the people of Israel 303 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: called Flags of Fellowship, organized by the International Fellowship of 304 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: Christians and Jews. The date is next Sunday, October fifth, 305 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: just ten days away. Millions of Americans across our nation 306 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: will plant in Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with 307 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: the victims of the moss terrorist attack on October seventh, 308 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: two years ago in Israel. And now you can be 309 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: a part of this movement too. 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We're discussing the Komy indictment that came down 320 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: in northern Virginia. We've also got a showdown in Broadview, 321 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: Illinois at an ICE facility, a bunch of left wing 322 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: hashtag resist, anti anti immigration enforcement protesters. There's been pepperballs, 323 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: pepper spray, all kinds of stuff deployed here. They're acting 324 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: like maniacs. Clay, we did call this, I might say, 325 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: I might want to remind every early on this was 326 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: always going to be the thing that brought the Democrats 327 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: together in opposition was deportations. 328 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: So we've expected this the whole time. 329 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: I will say they've been a little slower in their 330 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: organization against this, or a little less effective maybe than anticipated, 331 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: but this is becoming the thing that they are all 332 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: obsessed with trying to stop the government from doing and 333 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: push back on. Also, just to give you heads up, everybody, 334 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: we've got Jack Chitarelli will be with us. He is 335 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 3: running for governor of New Jersey. We heard those numbers 336 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: yesterday from our friend Ryan Gerdusky. I want to talking 337 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: about that very important race. Want to hear from him. 338 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: I think he can win. I will say that I 339 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: think he can win. 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And I don't know that very many people 368 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: are talking about her at all, but Lindsey Halligan was 369 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: just installed as the US Attorney in Northern Virginia. All 370 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: of these professional prosecutors have set around and said, there's 371 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: no way, oh these cases, we can't get the prosecution done. 372 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: They're basically, I think, waiting for the statute of limitations 373 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: to run out and then to kind of throw up 374 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: their hands and say. 375 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: Well, what could you do? 376 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Lindsay Halligan shows up just a couple of days ago, 377 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: goes in front of an Alexandria grand jury pool this 378 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: is deep blue northern Virginia, and gets two indictments against 379 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: James Comy. After all the professional prosecutors said it couldn't happen. 380 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: She came in as Trump's choice, and she got it 381 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: done and buck to me a little bit. What this 382 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: continues to represent is I am so over conventional wisdom, 383 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: because conventional wisdom tends to be very low risk. It 384 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: goes ahead and accepts whatever the people who've been doing 385 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: something for a long time think. And Lindsey Halligan went 386 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: in front of this grand jury. For people out there 387 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: that are complaining, the grand jury indicted James Comy, not 388 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, not the Department of Justice, and now we 389 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: will see whether or not they can get a conviction. 390 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical because of the jury pool, and this is 391 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: my skepticism for all these cases, but I think her 392 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: success here deserves a lot of attention. 393 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: I would also remind everyone because it matters the standards 394 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: that we are supposed to apply in these situations. The 395 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: standard is just supposed to be the law and the facts, right. 396 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: It has been shifting though, And if we allow the 397 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: other side to bring prosecutions that are nonsense, and we 398 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: never bring prosecution even when there's a violation of law, 399 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 3: that is an imbalance that we just can't abide as 400 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: a country. I mean, the violence that that does to 401 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: the concept of the rule of law is just going 402 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: to continue to get worse, you know, the destruction of 403 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: that concept. I would also remind everyone, whether it's the 404 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: Washington Post or CNN or any of the voices out 405 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: there that are chirping about how terrible this is right now, 406 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: where were they when Bannon and Navarro, who were senior 407 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: White House advisors were sent to prison. Yeah, let's remember, 408 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 3: not just indicted, not just prosecuted, actually made to go 409 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: live in a cell for six months something like that, 410 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: whatever the time period was. They thought that was for 411 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: contempt of Congress, For contempt of Congress. Why wasn't that 412 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: the worst moment in American democracy, you know, in years? 413 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: Why wasn't that the destruction of norms? They love to 414 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: talk about norms. Destruction of norms means they get to 415 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: do whatever they want and we have to play by 416 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: their rules. Those are only norms that actually matter to them. 417 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: And this is saying enough is enough with it? I 418 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: think it absolutely. I think it's not just a good thing, Clay. 419 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: I think this is a. 420 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: Necessary thing that we are seeing. 421 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: So to me, the question, now, so we got the indictments, 422 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: you have to get the indictments upheld in some way 423 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: by the Obama appointed judge that has been assigned this case. 424 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: So prepare for ample roadblocks there potentially even a way 425 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: to dismiss these charges. And then you got the jury 426 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: pool to deal with, which will be slanted very strongly 427 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: in Comy's favor. But the real question that I have 428 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: is can they get someone to testify to help prove 429 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: that Comy lied? That is, is there someone out there, 430 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: as this investigation is expanding, that will, under oath raise 431 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: their right hand and say these leaks happened at the 432 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: direct order of James Comy. Because then the perjury charge 433 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: is very easy for a jury to understand. Because right 434 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: now the challenge with jury jury's applying perjury charges is 435 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: we know that somebody lied under oath to Congress that 436 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent true because the statements that were 437 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: made both cannot be true that I have seen from 438 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: Andrew McCabe and from James Comy. So either McKay blied 439 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: or Comy lied. I don't believe there's a way that 440 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: even an artful lawyer could argue that both of those 441 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: comments were true. You have conflicting stories under oath having 442 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: been told. So is there going to be in this 443 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: trial that eventually emerges. Will there be an opportunity to 444 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: truly kind of come after Komy with witnesses saying he 445 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: lied and here are the specifics of those life That's 446 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: the question to me that that's going to emerge in 447 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: this case. 448 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: I also think if you want to know whether somebody 449 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: has any principles whatsoever in this discussion, and I mean 450 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: the public figures, democrats and pundits and everyone who's wanging, 451 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: but you can establish this is a clear litmus test. Okay, 452 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: this is as straightforward as it could be. If this person, 453 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: whoever it is, who's upset about this person's upset about 454 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 3: the Komy indictment, I want to see them absolutely apoplectic 455 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: about Trump being charged with was it thirty seven or 456 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: thirty one felonies? 457 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was the thirty four, but they altogether 458 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: Getty City thirty four. 459 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: I think it means charges elsewhere thirty four felony charges 460 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: and using the. 461 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: Getting rid of a basic principle in prosecution, which is, 462 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: you know, if somebody is being arrested. I've explained this before, 463 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: but I know this from prosecutors that I've worked with 464 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: in the past when I was the NYPD. If somebody 465 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: has drugs okay, and you're going to charge them for 466 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: illegal drug sale, legal drug possession, and you have them 467 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: on video and they passed the crack pipe between each 468 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: other ten times, you actually charge them once for crack 469 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: possession and maybe once for creat You don't charge them 470 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: ten times for that right, Even though you could theoretically 471 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: make that argument, that is what they did to Trump. 472 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: They charged him for every version of the ledger that 473 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: that existed where they said he mis represented his own 474 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: internal accounting business business practices. 475 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: It is insane. 476 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 3: If someone was not deeply upset at the abuse that 477 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: Alvin Bragg engaged in in New York against Trump, they 478 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 3: have absolutely no grounds to say anything about any principle 479 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: involved with comy, And I might add I don't think 480 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: that Trump even broke any law at all. I know 481 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: you agree with me full stop in New York, not 482 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: even close. I think Comy actually broke I believe it's alleged. 483 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: We'll see in court. I think he broke the law. 484 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: I think he's a liar, and I think that he 485 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: lied under oath and that's illegal. 486 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: I think there's also you talk about breaking the UH, 487 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: breaking the precedent, crossing the rubicon, whatever way you want 488 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: to phrase it. Comy is insignificant. They tried to put 489 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: President Trump in prison and bankrupt him for the rest 490 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: of his life. So for people out there saying, well, 491 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: this is unbelievable, no, what would be an eye for 492 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: an eye? Justice would be Joe Biden goes out in 493 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: handcuffs and is charged in four different Red state jurisdictions 494 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: and gets his mugshot taken and sits in a courtroom 495 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: for months being tried on relatively insignificant charges. We're not 496 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: even talking about an eye for an eye. This is 497 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: like we lost an eye and we like have given 498 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: them a hangnail, right like this is this is not 499 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: remotely equal justice in any way. And to your point, Buck, 500 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: if you were really fired up about it, then you 501 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: would point out that. 502 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: These are not equal situations remotely. 503 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: Comy if he has found guilty, and I want to 504 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 3: be very clear, we've said all along, I don't think 505 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: anyone's going to prison over this stuff of these deep 506 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 3: state people. That's been a shared assessment by that's remember. 507 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: That's different than I don't think they should. I do 508 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: think that Comy, if he has found I think that 509 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: if Comy broke the law, and we'll see the facts 510 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: as presented, I believe he did. So does this grand 511 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: jury or at least they think there's an off to 512 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: bring the indictment. But I think that he should be 513 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: punished for this. But even if even if he has 514 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: punished for this, he's gonna go, it's gonna be a 515 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: very similar most likely to what you saw with Bannon 516 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: and Navarro, where you'll go to a minimum security and 517 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: he'll probably be in the seniors wing. So I don't 518 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: know if they have like tennis courts there, but you know, 519 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 3: he'd be there for something like six months maybe maybe 520 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: would there even be any kind of carceral sentence based 521 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: in fairness, would there be a carceral sentence off this? Probably, 522 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: but you know, not very long. And people will say, oh, 523 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: but it's a five year statutory maximum. That's if you're 524 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: like lying about who gave you the grenades before the 525 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 3: terrorist attack and they can't get you on the terrorism 526 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: or they want to add it into the terrorism. They're 527 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: generally not gonna hit you with the full five I mean, 528 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: the judge is not gonna hit you with a full 529 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: five years for something like this. And that may be 530 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 3: disappointing to people to hear, but Clay, I just think 531 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: to keep it in perspective. If he's found guilty, you know, 532 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: he's looking at anywhere from a zero to six month 533 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: prison sentence for this, maybe zero to a year, maybe 534 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: something like that. 535 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: It may also have to go all the way to 536 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Like I just I want people to 537 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: understand what to expect. You're going to be dealing with 538 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: a rigged jury pool. You're going to be dealing with 539 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: a judge that is skeptical of any Trump prosecution. You're 540 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: likely going to be if he was convicted, which I'm 541 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: skeptical will happen, you're going to get an immediate appeal. 542 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: He's not like he's going to be taken into custody. 543 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: He will appeal. It will go to a Federal Circuit Court, 544 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: which probably will be favorable to him, and it could 545 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: go all the way to the Supreme Court before there's 546 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: any result. That's in the event of a conviction, which 547 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: I still think is unlikely. So if you were asking 548 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: me right now, Clay, what do you think the chances are, 549 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: what is the probability that James Comey ever is convicted 550 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: and goes to prison. Yeah, I think it's actually still 551 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: very unlikely that this guy ever goes to prison and 552 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: is convicted. 553 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: We'll see. We're not on that journey and we're not 554 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: the judge. 555 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: So, but the indictments have occurred, which, as you've said 556 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: for some time, buck to be fair, oftentimes the process 557 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: is the penalty, Yes, and it has certainly been the 558 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: case for a lot of Trump related prosecution. Well, that's 559 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: why I think at a minimum, there's now an understanding 560 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: that there can be a cost for people who abuse 561 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: the system for political reasons to go after Republicans. 562 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: That's really what this is. 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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. 606 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: Gonna get your calls here in a second there's pretty 607 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: clear love for Trump going on at the Ryder Cup. 608 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 3: As claim Menen wanted you to hear it play thirty, 609 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: I would say that the the general golf audience, that 610 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: the true devoted golf audience, probably as pro Trump as 611 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: a lot of the talk radio audience. I think you're 612 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of crossover there. 613 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Look, I think this is awesome. Trump is sitting near 614 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: the tea box and I just shared this video. Scotty Scheffler, 615 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: best golfer in the world, walking up to the tea box, 616 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: gives a point and a fist pump at President Trump, 617 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: and then JJ Spawn, who I believe is his partner, 618 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: does a Trump Ymca dance right behind him. 619 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: So US is trailing three to one. 620 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: A lot of Euros talking trash, but we have started 621 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: off well with Scheffler and Spawn taking a lead in 622 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: their match. 623 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: And it's really fun even if you're not a golf person. 624 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: This is a really cool USA It has sort of 625 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: an Olympics feel to it. USA against Europe. Every two 626 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: years Ryder Cup takes place. They alternate playing in Europe 627 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: or playing in the United States. And this is a 628 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: great golf course, perfect weather. I love the fact that 629 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: the president's there, it does feel culturally significant that everybody's 630 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: kind of coming together around him in the golf world. 631 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: It's it's nice that you know, europe can compete with 632 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: us in something. You know, we want to give them something, 633 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 3: you know, this and soccer or football as they call it. 634 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 2: So you know, we want we want to be nice. 635 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 3: We want to be nice to our neighbors across the pond. 636 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: Phil in North Carolina, By the way, I bet there's 637 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: a lot of you doing this. He is listening to 638 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 3: watch us while watching the Ryder Cup. That is that 639 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: is you got to have multimedia screen action going on 640 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: right now. Phil, You wanted to give us a view 641 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: of what Trump looks and was it looks like right 642 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 3: now while you're watching this. 643 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 8: Is amazing, you know, seeing the President on the number 644 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 8: one tea out there watching them, especially when Shambeau is 645 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 8: you know. 646 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 9: Knocking at three hundred and nine. You know, oh yeah, 647 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 9: everybody's out of what even though, like you said, even 648 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 9: if you don't like golf, you can't help. But what 649 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 9: you know, it's just it's a good it's it's it's 650 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 9: good stuff. 651 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 8: It's good TV. I mean, it's no it's not there's 652 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 8: no politics, even though the president's there, there's no politics 653 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 8: involved in it. 654 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: I mean the president should want America to kick everybody's ass, 655 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: like this is what the president should be doing, right. 656 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, I think Trump next year 657 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: buck for the World Cup and then in twenty eight 658 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: at the Olympics. I don't you can criticize Trump for 659 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: a lot as obviously his critics do, being the most 660 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: pro America sports president maybe we've ever seen. 661 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 8: Is. 662 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 2: I don't see how that's a bad idea. 663 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 3: How that's We got America's big birthday coming up too. Yes, good, 664 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 3: We're just gonna We're gonna we got America number one 665 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: for a long time, my friend, So we're excited about that. 666 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 3: That's gonna be uh. I think a lot of fun 667 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: here we go. B. We got to talk back from 668 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: Mark and North Carolina. This is talkback BB hit it. 669 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: A Cleyan Bucks, Mark and North Carolina. One thing about 670 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 4: the Komy situation is, even if they don't get a conviction, 671 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 4: it'll be very gratifying to bankrupt that plugger. Let him 672 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 4: spend all his money on defense attorneys and representing himself, 673 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 4: just like the Left has done to Irish side for 674 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 4: years and years and years. 675 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: Well, I don't I don't know what his finances are. 676 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: I have a feeling that if he sets up a GoFundMe, 677 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 3: a lot of hashtag resistance lives are going to pay 678 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 3: for his legal bills. But but I hear what you're saying, Mark, 679 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 3: I feel your sentiment on that one. 680 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: But Kobe lawyers are going to give their representation to 681 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: him for free scandale. 682 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 3: That's, unfortunately, probably what's going to happen here because Yep, 683 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: their team gets away with a lot of stuff. We'll 684 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 3: talk more about the ice standoff and a lot of 685 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: stuff coming up here in a second stay with us