Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official New York Jets Podcast. Eric Allen
Speaker 1: here at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, joined by
Speaker 1: The New York Post. Brian Costello's giving us a few
Speaker 1: moments of our time. It's Thursday, of his time. It's
Speaker 1: Thursday right now. You're gonna be catching a plane out
Speaker 1: later this afternoon. I think most of you are going
Speaker 1: to be hearing this or watching this on Friday, and
Speaker 1: in fact, in a few moments you are going to
Speaker 1: the podium to listen to Georgia tight end brock Bauers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think the chances are for the Jets
Speaker 1: at ten?
Speaker 2: I think it's slimmy. I think they're going to take
Speaker 2: a tackle, right, everybody does. I'm not, you know, going
Speaker 2: out out on the limb there. But let's say those
Speaker 2: tackles are gone the top three eyes. Then Bowers is
Speaker 2: attractive because you need you know, we talked about receiver
Speaker 2: a lot with the Jets, but you really just need
Speaker 2: another weapon on this offense to go with Garrett and Breese,
Speaker 2: and this.
Speaker 3: Guy's a weapon.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Jets fans will be happy. Well,
Speaker 2: some scars from Kyle Brady that still exists. I know
Speaker 2: they're going back. It's thirty years ago. But whenever I
Speaker 2: bring up a tight end, they hear about Kyle Brady.
Speaker 2: So but I still think it's going to be a tackle.
Speaker 2: But I didn't get they don't go tackle. Bowers is
Speaker 2: definitely a shot there.
Speaker 4: He's a very interesting prospect. I know. I've asked a
Speaker 4: few people if.
Speaker 1: They consider him a unicorn, and they mentioned the size.
Speaker 1: Not the biggest guy in the world, but awfully productive
Speaker 1: on an offense that is going to send a few
Speaker 1: guys to the National Football League. With that being said,
Speaker 1: how would you rate Bauers against those top three receivers?
Speaker 1: Because you said, hey, offensively playmakers, doesn't matter about the position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the receivers are higher. Like
Speaker 2: you look at what has happened at the wide receiver
Speaker 2: position in recent years. That's become now an elite position.
Speaker 2: Like you know, he used to be quarterback, left tackle,
Speaker 2: cornerback and edg Rusher, right, those of the four receivers.
Speaker 3: Joined that mix.
Speaker 2: Like, look at the money they're making and Justin Jefferson
Speaker 2: is going to reset the market probably soon. Uh, and
Speaker 2: in the draft, I think those guys are now top
Speaker 2: top guys right and tight ends. We can see you
Speaker 2: can see they get you can get them in the
Speaker 2: second round, you can get them in the third round,
Speaker 2: and they're productive. So I I do think those receivers
Speaker 2: are definitely gonna be higher than Bowers.
Speaker 4: We got a couple of months into the draft.
Speaker 1: Is it your sense right here that there are clear
Speaker 1: top two at the tackle position in pecking order with
Speaker 1: Joe Walt and Fishiano from your alma Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Fuaga is there right there too from Oregon State. Uh,
Speaker 2: And so I think it's the top three. Like during
Speaker 2: the season, you heard a lot about Alt and Fashanu,
Speaker 2: but I think Fuaga has kind of joined that that
Speaker 2: mix after the Senior Bowl. So to me, I think
Speaker 2: it's the top three and then there's a drop off
Speaker 2: after that. So we'll see how many go in the
Speaker 2: top ten. You know, I think there should be one
Speaker 2: there for the Jets. I think because I think those
Speaker 2: receivers we talked about quarterbacks obviously are gonna go a lot,
Speaker 2: so there should be somebody there.
Speaker 3: At ten for the Jets.
Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna get back to the draft. But
Speaker 1: as far as the recent release of Lincoln Tomlinson, any
Speaker 1: surprise there considering his cap number.
Speaker 2: I thought they would try to get him to take
Speaker 2: a pay cut. Maybe they did, I don't know, and
Speaker 2: then they moved on because I just it didn't make
Speaker 2: sense to have him at that number, Like his production
Speaker 2: didn't match the price. But you're creating a hole, and
Speaker 2: they already had holes to fill on the offensive line
Speaker 2: and now they have three holes.
Speaker 3: So that part of it. And he was a durable guy,
Speaker 3: which is what we like.
Speaker 2: We talked about that's been a problem for them, you know,
Speaker 2: for the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't shocked, Okay. I thought there was a
Speaker 3: good chance he would get cut.
Speaker 1: Thirteen different starting combinations up front last season, and he's
Speaker 1: the guy who played every snap.
Speaker 4: Lincoln Thomlinson.
Speaker 1: Jets want to find a permanent home for Elijah Vera Tucker.
Speaker 1: Where do you think ultimately that could be.
Speaker 2: I think it'll end up being tackle, But I think
Speaker 2: the market is going to influence it. And I think
Speaker 2: what you know, you heard Joe Douglas yesterday talking about
Speaker 2: his versatility and how that helps them to me right,
Speaker 2: you need three players. It's either two guards in a
Speaker 2: tackle or two tackles in a guard, and that's where
Speaker 2: VERA Tucker comes in. If they if they look at
Speaker 2: free agency, and I think they will look at it
Speaker 2: like this, go the tackle market's soft, right Like it's
Speaker 2: there's a lot of older guys, a lot of guys
Speaker 2: that have durability questions.
Speaker 3: That's not what the Jets need right now.
Speaker 2: The guard markets there's some value, and we know like
Speaker 2: Douglas likes to search for value. So I think they
Speaker 2: end up signing two guards. Then you move, you kick
Speaker 2: Avt out to tackle, and you draft a tackle. But
Speaker 2: if something changes and there's a tackle that they really like,
Speaker 2: maybe they sign him and then they just sign a
Speaker 2: guard and keep Avt at guard.
Speaker 3: But it's they've they're locked in. They want to I don't.
Speaker 2: Really understand the whole They think the injuries are coming
Speaker 2: because he's moving around. I don't get that too much,
Speaker 2: but you do need to find him at home. I
Speaker 2: think it's been tough for him to keep moving around
Speaker 2: every year.
Speaker 1: He's a unique dude because most guys in today's landscape
Speaker 1: are not gonna say, hey, listen, just play me wherever
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They want to say play me at left tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, he's he's definitely, you know, a team first guy
Speaker 2: and has been.
Speaker 3: And but to me, you know, tackle is the more
Speaker 3: important position.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, if you go back and you look at
Speaker 2: every game the Jets played, it felt like almost every
Speaker 2: week there was an edge rusher we were talking about. Yep,
Speaker 2: that's like you're always it's always a storyline. For me
Speaker 2: is like, oh, they're playing Miles Garrett this week. Let's
Speaker 2: go talk to the tackles about what it's like to
Speaker 2: play Miles Garrett. So there are some great interior rushers,
Speaker 2: you know, like Chris Jones and uh, you know other guys.
Speaker 3: But to me, the tackle.
Speaker 2: Is is so important and Abt has shown he can
Speaker 2: play there.
Speaker 1: If you're the Jets, who are you targeting a free
Speaker 1: agency though at that position?
Speaker 2: At that position, I'm not really sure who they're targeting.
Speaker 2: I think, like I said, I think the guard market
Speaker 2: is where you go maybe like a Robert Hunt from
Speaker 2: Miami and one from New England. He's got flexibility, can
Speaker 2: play both. I think Joe's gonna be searching for value.
Speaker 2: If you look at the recent history, he hasn't done
Speaker 2: well when he's gone the big money first day free agent.
Speaker 2: Right what he's done well on is that second wave?
Speaker 2: And like DJ Reid, right, that's the best signing by
Speaker 2: far in my book. That came you know, that wasn't
Speaker 2: a big splash on day one. That was after Tyler Conklin.
Speaker 2: I think it was a really good signing and that
Speaker 2: came after they signed Uzama, right, So like that came
Speaker 2: second wave. So to me, I could see him going
Speaker 2: look at the guard market, watching what happens day one,
Speaker 2: and then pouncing you know on somebody after that in
Speaker 2: the guard market.
Speaker 1: But that's why I think Bowers would be a luxury
Speaker 1: for the Jets because you mentioned Conklind coming off a
Speaker 1: career high reception. I think it was sixty plus yeah
Speaker 1: last year, and then Aaron Rodgers is gonna be throwing
Speaker 1: the ball, right.
Speaker 3: I think you can use two though, And I think
Speaker 3: what do you think of Rutger.
Speaker 2: I think the jury is still out on him as
Speaker 2: a receiver. I thought he had some good moments last year.
Speaker 2: I think he's a good blocker. But to me, you know,
Speaker 2: Bowers is a dynamic guy, like you could He's almost
Speaker 2: like another receiver, which we've seen now with Kelsey. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's like adding a receiver when you
Speaker 2: have that guy out there. So yeah, I hear what
Speaker 2: you're saying, and I think Conflient has done very well.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how long Conflidence I'm on the
Speaker 2: team too, Right, He's an older guy contract stuff.
Speaker 3: So if you get a guy, a really young player
Speaker 3: that you draft at that position, it could be could
Speaker 3: be valuable.
Speaker 4: I think it's a leap yer still February, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: so there you go.
Speaker 1: So this is a difficult question at this point. But
Speaker 1: do you think the Jets would be more likely to
Speaker 1: move up in the draft and move back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough on February twenty nine, and I think, uh,
Speaker 2: I think move up a really. I think of where
Speaker 2: they're at this is this is winn or go home
Speaker 2: for Joe Douglas and Robert Sala, Right, I mean what
Speaker 2: do Johnson made that clear at NFL Honors that they
Speaker 2: have to win this year. So to me, it's like
Speaker 2: if there's a tackle that they love more than the
Speaker 2: other guys, right, and they're not willing to let whoever
Speaker 2: follow them go up like move up to seven, move
Speaker 2: like move up and get them right and and so
Speaker 2: moving back. I just I think the only time chance
Speaker 2: moving back is if the three eyes are gone and
Speaker 2: then they don't want it, like they don't want to
Speaker 2: take powers. Let's just trade back and get some picks.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they're worried about like not having
Speaker 2: a second round pick.
Speaker 3: To me, they have a pretty good pick in the
Speaker 3: third round.
Speaker 2: I think they feel good that they can get two
Speaker 2: starters out of this draft with where they're at. So
Speaker 2: I don't think that it's moving back is going to
Speaker 2: be a priority. And we've never seen Joe do it
Speaker 2: in the first round, right, He's never moved back in
Speaker 2: the first round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's moved up. He got for ABT.
Speaker 2: He moves up for Jermaine Johnson, Right, So I would
Speaker 2: had to bet I'd say moving up.
Speaker 1: He was here yesterday after he spoke at the podium
Speaker 1: and he told us that he's anticipating in the range
Speaker 1: of three compensatory selections, but probably all those in the
Speaker 1: seventh rounds.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the guys that do those projections online, I've
Speaker 2: seen you at seventh round.
Speaker 3: I think they may even end up with.
Speaker 2: Mister irrelevant about the projection. They might end up with
Speaker 2: the last pack of the draft.
Speaker 1: How about that maybe the next So let me ask
Speaker 1: you with that when we talk about somebody like pretty
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, We've talked about his age, we know he's
Speaker 1: coming off the injury. The Jets are gonna be in
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback market. Yeah, we'll get to that in
Speaker 1: the second.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Would you draft someone at some point as far as
Speaker 1: a passers.
Speaker 2: Like late like day three I might draft or undrafted
Speaker 2: free agency would be a priority, and like as a
Speaker 2: developmental third guy. And I think I think next year
Speaker 2: he we're gonna be talking about quarterbacks, you know, even
Speaker 2: if I think Aaron will still be playing, but I
Speaker 2: think that's when the Jets will go maybe we need
Speaker 2: to draft someone that can develop like high, that can
Speaker 2: develop behind Aaron and watch him.
Speaker 3: So this year, I think.
Speaker 2: It would be a developmental guy like yeah, like end
Speaker 2: of the draft or a non drafted free agency.
Speaker 1: What a difference a year makes, though, Right when we're
Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis last year, we're talking about the quarterback
Speaker 1: hunt being on for the Jets.
Speaker 3: Derek I.
Speaker 2: Stalked Derek Carr out at a hotel in Indianapolis last year.
Speaker 4: Tell us a story.
Speaker 2: Let's go, I just someone called me and said Derek
Speaker 2: Carr was over at the Marriotte here, and that was
Speaker 2: the Jets had met with him in Jersey in February
Speaker 2: and they were meeting with him here the next day.
Speaker 2: So I just went over and he was with some
Speaker 2: friends and I just waited him out, and then when
Speaker 2: he went to went to the elevator bank, I ran
Speaker 2: over and introduced myself, and he was very polite, said
Speaker 2: he just wasn't talking, but he was.
Speaker 3: He was nice.
Speaker 2: And then I did hear from people inside the Jets
Speaker 2: at their meeting the next day, he said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: one of your reporters got me at my hotel and
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, welcome, Welcome to New York, Derek.
Speaker 4: That's what it's like there you go.
Speaker 1: At that point, I think Goody was talking at the
Speaker 1: podium one of those days Packer's GM Brian Goodenkiss, of course,
Speaker 1: did you think that it was ultimately gonna be Rogers?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what I was before the flight,
Speaker 3: you know all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was still under contract, and there seemed to
Speaker 4: be a lot of like.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of momentum.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, like from a beat writer, perspective, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: when you throw something like when you start like throwing
Speaker 2: speculation out about something like that, if you're if it
Speaker 2: isn't going to happen, you get some pretty big pushback
Speaker 2: in the organization, like they'll tell you it'll be like
Speaker 2: you're completely off on this, And there was no pushback.
Speaker 3: From I remember writing about Rogers right after the season.
Speaker 3: I did a series like what could they do a quarterback?
Speaker 2: And one piece was Rogers, and I expected them to
Speaker 2: be like, ah, just down even if they were going
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: It, like downplaying it, And there was no downplaying from.
Speaker 2: The people I talked to it, and I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is They're going to go for this. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't know how I was going to play out
Speaker 2: at that point. I think we had a lot of
Speaker 2: questions still then, but I did definitely think he was
Speaker 2: the number one guy.
Speaker 1: What do you think of the messages coming from Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas speaking at the podium here yesterday.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there was a lot of different ones.
Speaker 2: You know, I think they he he's not shying away
Speaker 2: from what this year is.
Speaker 3: They need to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's been I think Joe's done a
Speaker 2: lot of good things, right, but they haven't won games.
Speaker 2: And I think Joe and Robert they both have there's
Speaker 2: promise there and I think they both I have shown,
Speaker 2: you know, that they can do the job. But you
Speaker 2: got to win games in this league. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what the process looks like. It's it's the results.
Speaker 3: Coaches.
Speaker 2: Coaches loved to talk about process, and GMS loved to
Speaker 2: about process, but it's about results. So I think he
Speaker 2: didn't shy away from that, said they have to win,
Speaker 2: you know, And then I think he hit on a
Speaker 2: lot of different other topics, but that that was my
Speaker 2: big takeaway was kind of he he knows what this
Speaker 2: year is for him.
Speaker 4: He seemed comfortable though, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Joe never seems uncomfortable a guy I have never said
Speaker 2: he's always he's he's a confident guy. I don't think
Speaker 2: he worries about what's said about him or written about him,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I think he just he knows he's got to get
Speaker 3: this done.
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson given permission to seek a trade, what ultimately
Speaker 1: that market look like?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What seriously, what could he get in return for a
Speaker 1: guy who was a former number two.
Speaker 3: Overall? I don't think much.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm trying to be nice here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not because I but he I don't think they'll get.
Speaker 4: Much, but a late round pick is maybe maybe.
Speaker 2: Like here, like people talk about Tree Lance, right, Lances
Speaker 2: drafted one pick after I saw somebody saying this yesterday,
Speaker 2: so they got a fifth round pick, right, But Trey
Speaker 2: Lance never played, so that there was the unknown, right,
Speaker 2: we all know what the unknown is.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: That's why the backup quarterback is usually the most popular guy, right,
Speaker 2: because you don't know what he is. We know what
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson is. He's played three years and it has
Speaker 2: n't been good.
Speaker 3: I just I think they're gonna have a hard time.
Speaker 3: I think there are.
Speaker 2: Hard I think maybe they get a pick twenty five
Speaker 2: for him, that that's fair.
Speaker 3: But I think it'll probably happen right around the draft.
Speaker 3: I think that that's when. I don't think this is gonna.
Speaker 4: Happen soon, but it will happen.
Speaker 2: If it happens, I I they could end up cutting him.
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sold that.
Speaker 3: They'll be able to get something for him, because it's just.
Speaker 2: Uh uh, you know, it was bad on the field,
Speaker 2: it was bad off the field.
Speaker 3: That's not a good combination. So I don't know. And
Speaker 3: like you, I go through right, almost everyone gets a second.
Speaker 4: Chance in the NFL everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if I go.
Speaker 2: Through Jets draft picks and think about guys that didn't
Speaker 2: work out for first round picks, the only guy who
Speaker 2: never really ended up at a second place was de Milner,
Speaker 2: and I don't know why, but he never got a
Speaker 2: second chance. I everyone else got a second chance, So
Speaker 2: I think Zach will get it. But I think teams
Speaker 2: know the Jets are going to cut him at some point,
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure they'll I'm not sure what they're
Speaker 2: gonna give up for him.
Speaker 1: What would your wish list be if you're Joe and
Speaker 1: you're seeking a veteran back up quarterback?
Speaker 3: You know, I like Jacoby Brissett a lot.
Speaker 4: He looked good in my LOFE last year.
Speaker 3: And he looked good in something in Cleveland two years ago.
Speaker 2: He certainly did so like he's played well against them,
Speaker 2: which I don't know what that's word, but I think
Speaker 2: he's a good backup.
Speaker 4: Is there a price point you got to look at?
Speaker 3: Well? I think the price points going up, right.
Speaker 2: I think he got eight million last year and he
Speaker 2: was the how he was the top of the market.
Speaker 3: I gotta feel it's gonna be ten million this year,
Speaker 3: and I think they'll have.
Speaker 2: To pay up, just because not just you look at
Speaker 2: the Jets, but also look what happened across the NFL.
Speaker 2: Backup quarterbacks are now more valuable than ever. I love Minshew,
Speaker 2: but I think Minshew will probably get an opportunity somewhere
Speaker 2: to at least be a bridge quarterback of a team.
Speaker 3: In drafting a.
Speaker 2: Rookie Tannehill, you have to look at Tannehill because of
Speaker 2: all the tech, Todd Downing and Keith Carter and all
Speaker 2: and everybody. Now Tony Due's like all these guys came from.
Speaker 2: But I also think Tannehill might be in that market
Speaker 2: of like somebody looking for a starter for a year,
Speaker 2: or somebody drafting a quarterback and wants a veteran. I
Speaker 2: think he might be that. Uh So to be Presette,
Speaker 2: is that the guy I'm really watching? Tyrod Taylor, I
Speaker 2: think too. I think you would watch him cross down.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's he's good. He just he has a
Speaker 2: tough time staying healthy, but he's pretty good.
Speaker 1: So I told fans who're gonna be here on the podcast.
Speaker 1: So I got a so far, I look pretty good.
Speaker 1: I don't have too much I didn't control here on
Speaker 1: my settence Michael Christopher as Brian cust whether Jets put
Speaker 1: more value on Olu and All because they are really
Speaker 1: the only true left tackles in draft comparison compared to
Speaker 1: the right tackles of Fuaga and Geiton and Latham. And
Speaker 1: then also he throws in there as Mike Williams a
Speaker 1: consideration for signing if he gets caught by the Chargers
Speaker 1: to be number two wide receiver this year.
Speaker 4: Let's start with the tackles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's definitely a question. I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they view Fuaga as he could
Speaker 2: play left tackle.
Speaker 3: I do think.
Speaker 2: I do think you can move guys from right to
Speaker 2: left tackle. You know that was the question right when
Speaker 2: with Wurfs in twenty twenty. It was, Oh, he's a
Speaker 2: right tackle. Well look at how he's done. He's done
Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, And so I think I don't think
Speaker 2: they can't worry about that. I think they need to
Speaker 2: take the best player and then figure out when they
Speaker 2: get the man and they can again Abtser still he
Speaker 2: helps there. I think Abt can play left tackle if
Speaker 2: they if they needed to. And then Mike Williams, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I think they would definitely have interest if
Speaker 2: he comes available.
Speaker 1: Adam b what's a position that Jets will target this
Speaker 1: offseason that isn't getting much attention from fans?
Speaker 4: I like this question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go interior defensive line, right, because they
Speaker 2: have Quinn and then they don't have much else under contract.
Speaker 4: So Quinn Jefferson up, yep, Sally Woods.
Speaker 3: Up, Salomon Thomas.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I think they probably look to bring
Speaker 2: Jefferson and Thomas back, but they could go a different direction,
Speaker 2: and that, to me, that's going to be critical.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, if you had a criticism of the Jets defense,
Speaker 2: it's been against the run, and so they that's right
Speaker 2: off the middle. They need to get that short up
Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be a position. And
Speaker 2: the second one, I go safety, right, like Jordan White
Speaker 2: heads up?
Speaker 3: What do they do there.
Speaker 4: As well?
Speaker 3: So you know, I think those.
Speaker 2: Are the two positions to watch that aren't getting a
Speaker 2: lot of attention right now.
Speaker 4: Safety maybe take a flyer on Day three of the draft, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean could I mean again, and and that's
Speaker 2: also that would be a guy who play special teams
Speaker 2: right safety exactly right? Is that's that's you know, that's
Speaker 2: because you have to consider that as well when you're
Speaker 2: looking at it.
Speaker 1: Davis finding football, he's.
Speaker 2: An interesting guy, right, So, like you know who he
Speaker 2: reminds me of is Eric Smith?
Speaker 3: Eric Smith? Right Smith?
Speaker 2: Great special teams player, great, and then like he would
Speaker 2: have like he play a little defense, and he played
Speaker 2: pretty well, but then like when they tried.
Speaker 3: To make him the guy, he didn't go so well.
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering, Like I remember Mike Patton told me
Speaker 2: about Eric Smith one time. He's like, you love him
Speaker 2: at three hundred snaps, not so much of a thousand,
Speaker 2: So Ashton, I don't know, like I can he can
Speaker 2: he be a thousand snap guy?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I think they'd be reluctant to do that.
Speaker 4: So we got a couple of minutes with it, Bryce Huff.
Speaker 1: The cap going up in the National Football League, I
Speaker 1: think to a number that I don't know if a
Speaker 1: lot of people anticipate is gonna be quite that high.
Speaker 4: So how does that impact the job?
Speaker 3: It helps?
Speaker 2: Right, I mean I think it definitely helps. I think
Speaker 2: they That was the first thing I heard was from
Speaker 2: people that, like, you know, they said, oh maybe they
Speaker 2: maybe this changes things with Huff. Yeah, maybe they can
Speaker 2: go a little bit higher. I just don't think anyone
Speaker 2: knows what the market is for Bryce Huff, and I
Speaker 2: think the Jets might have to let him explore it
Speaker 2: because maybe it's not gonna be as high as he
Speaker 2: and his agent think. So I wouldn't be shocked yea
Speaker 2: if he hits free agency right, goes out, sees what
Speaker 2: he can get, and the Jets have to hope he
Speaker 2: comes back to them and says, you know what this
Speaker 2: is what so and so offered?
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you going to meet it? So?
Speaker 2: I think I think that's the big thing, is the market.
Speaker 2: And then is he content being part of rotation or
Speaker 2: does he feel like he wants to play on first
Speaker 2: and second now more? And will some team tell him
Speaker 2: he's going to do that? That's also a factor in this.
Speaker 1: What do you make of Rogers before he gets back
Speaker 1: here in April?
Speaker 4: And I would expect he's going to be around the
Speaker 4: team quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I really think he embraced the area and the organization
Speaker 1: quite a bit.
Speaker 4: What he's facing ahead.
Speaker 1: Being where he's at at this point of his career,
Speaker 1: where I think all of a sudden after last year,
Speaker 1: all this hype around the team and the organization, now
Speaker 1: kind of people, I think people are forgetting how good
Speaker 1: he has been in the past, or maybe they're counting
Speaker 1: him out and they just don't believe that a forty
Speaker 1: year old who's going to be forty one can Can
Speaker 1: he climb this mountain again?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I take down at your own risk, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: the guy's in NFL legend for a reason.
Speaker 3: Is he going to be what he was in twenty twenty?
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't know if he
Speaker 2: can duplicate that, but even a little bit diminished Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: it's still better than anything that Jets have had in
Speaker 2: you know, years and years and years. So I just
Speaker 2: saw you O'Connor, my former colleague.
Speaker 3: He's coming.
Speaker 2: He has a book coming out. Yeah, And he tweeted
Speaker 2: yesterday he's just he spent some time with Aaron and
Speaker 2: California recently and he said, Aaron's bigger. He bulked up,
Speaker 2: so he added some size, And I think this guy
Speaker 2: is going to be on a mission, right, Like he
Speaker 2: hears all the stuff that you just talked about, and
Speaker 2: I think he's probably he's probably taking a little taken
Speaker 2: aback right now, of like, because last year he came
Speaker 2: in and it was a love fest and it was
Speaker 2: it's not always like that around the jetsa you might
Speaker 2: know on Twitter and such, and so now like the
Speaker 2: team's getting little, you know, there's there's a little lot
Speaker 2: of doubt, there's a lot of criticism.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to.
Speaker 2: Be fired up and I'd be surprised if he doesn't
Speaker 2: have a really good season.
Speaker 4: If Aaron Rodgers says a really good season, Jets are
Speaker 4: playoff team.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean the key to Aaron Rodgers having a really
Speaker 2: good season right is keeping him up right. And that's
Speaker 2: what we talked about with the offense. That's what we're
Speaker 2: talking about. The offensive line they got. They got to
Speaker 2: keep him up right, and they got to keep him
Speaker 2: playing and give him some more help on offense.
Speaker 4: Will the Jets be in the market for a free
Speaker 4: agent receiver.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think they have to be.
Speaker 4: We were talking about it before we came back.
Speaker 2: The receiver market's tough because so many guys get tagged
Speaker 2: and you know, we just heard Chris Ballard said yesterday
Speaker 2: Pittman's gonna be tagged or I think he said he
Speaker 2: will use it as a tool, but didn't sound like
Speaker 2: Pittman's going anywhere. I do think the Bucks are going
Speaker 2: to resign Mike Evans. He's gonna off the market. So
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley is the guy to be that's gonna be
Speaker 2: the top of the market. And we'll see, you know,
Speaker 2: I think the Jets will be interested.
Speaker 1: All right, So you got to go to Bauer's podium
Speaker 1: and then you are going to catch a flight a
Speaker 1: great stuff.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Anything to add on Hardman or beyond Dawkins this week,
Speaker 1: that's just amazing. I didn't have any of this stuff
Speaker 1: on my Bengal card before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I would just say with mikhole Harmon,
Speaker 2: take some of this with a grain of salt.
Speaker 3: Uh, the guy got traded.
Speaker 2: I think Thomas Morris had said it pretty well, right,
Speaker 2: you know, Xavier, like you got beat up by Xavier Gibson.
Speaker 3: That's pretty tough to take.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: He didn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything with the team really, so you
Speaker 2: know he's he's an unhappy guy with the team. So
Speaker 2: I don't go crazy with that. Dean Dawkins. I think
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the Buffalo game. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be chippy. Yeah, I think you know, uh,
Speaker 2: I I understand these beef with Clemons.
Speaker 3: I get it Clemens. I think Clemens.
Speaker 2: I have some issues with the way Clemens kind of
Speaker 2: carries himself and stuff. So I think I get that.
Speaker 2: I didn't understand kind of making it all about.
Speaker 4: The entire organization.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and like also saying like there when you say Instagram,
Speaker 2: like their Instagram, and then he was sitting with his
Speaker 2: shirt off doing a podcast.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, okay, like you know, it.
Speaker 2: Was an interesting take, but the game is gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: It adds a layer which is great for me. The
Speaker 2: first thing I know was, oh boy, that's gonna be
Speaker 2: a fun week, you know, writing about that, because some
Speaker 2: of the guys went back at him on Twitter and stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's it's gonna be interesting. But it's amazing Jets.
Speaker 3: The Jets, there's always in the middle of everything.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 4: God's enjoyed it. Thanks buddy, all right, thank you.