WEBVTT - New York Post’s Brian Costello Talks Jets Free Agency & Draft (3/1) 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.680 Welcome into the Official New York Jets Podcast. Eric Allen 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:12.040 here at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, joined by 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.319 The New York Post. Brian Costello's giving us a few 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.920 moments of our time. It's Thursday, of his time. It's 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.600 Thursday right now. You're gonna be catching a plane out 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:23.680 later this afternoon. I think most of you are going 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.239 to be hearing this or watching this on Friday, and 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.760 in fact, in a few moments you are going to 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:33.520 the podium to listen to Georgia tight end brock Bauers. Yeah, 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.560 what do you think the chances are for the Jets 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:37.040 at ten? 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.879 I think it's slimmy. I think they're going to take 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.680 a tackle, right, everybody does. I'm not, you know, going 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.760 out out on the limb there. But let's say those 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.760 tackles are gone the top three eyes. Then Bowers is 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.800 attractive because you need you know, we talked about receiver 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.680 a lot with the Jets, but you really just need 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.640 another weapon on this offense to go with Garrett and Breese, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:57.240 and this. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:57.840 Guy's a weapon. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:02.000 So I don't know, Jets fans will be happy. Well, 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:08.040 some scars from Kyle Brady that still exists. I know 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.840 they're going back. It's thirty years ago. But whenever I 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.679 bring up a tight end, they hear about Kyle Brady. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.360 So but I still think it's going to be a tackle. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.360 But I didn't get they don't go tackle. Bowers is 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:18.600 definitely a shot there. 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.200 He's a very interesting prospect. I know. I've asked a 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:23.080 few people if. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.320 They consider him a unicorn, and they mentioned the size. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.160 Not the biggest guy in the world, but awfully productive 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.240 on an offense that is going to send a few 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.160 guys to the National Football League. With that being said, 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.040 how would you rate Bauers against those top three receivers? 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:45.160 Because you said, hey, offensively playmakers, doesn't matter about the position. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.720 Yeah, I mean I think the receivers are higher. Like 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.800 you look at what has happened at the wide receiver 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:56.080 position in recent years. That's become now an elite position. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.440 Like you know, he used to be quarterback, left tackle, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.680 cornerback and edg Rusher, right, those of the four receivers. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:01.920 Joined that mix. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.280 Like, look at the money they're making and Justin Jefferson 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.360 is going to reset the market probably soon. Uh, and 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.840 in the draft, I think those guys are now top 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.639 top guys right and tight ends. We can see you 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:15.920 can see they get you can get them in the 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.399 second round, you can get them in the third round, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.280 and they're productive. So I I do think those receivers 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:21.720 are definitely gonna be higher than Bowers. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.400 We got a couple of months into the draft. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.160 Is it your sense right here that there are clear 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.000 top two at the tackle position in pecking order with 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:34.760 Joe Walt and Fishiano from your alma Yeah. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.000 I think Fuaga is there right there too from Oregon State. Uh, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.800 And so I think it's the top three. Like during 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.800 the season, you heard a lot about Alt and Fashanu, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.800 but I think Fuaga has kind of joined that that 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.960 mix after the Senior Bowl. So to me, I think 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:49.600 it's the top three and then there's a drop off 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.560 after that. So we'll see how many go in the 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.320 top ten. You know, I think there should be one 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.160 there for the Jets. I think because I think those 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.720 receivers we talked about quarterbacks obviously are gonna go a lot, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.400 so there should be somebody there. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:01.959 At ten for the Jets. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.960 All Right, We're gonna get back to the draft. But 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.720 as far as the recent release of Lincoln Tomlinson, any 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.359 surprise there considering his cap number. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.639 I thought they would try to get him to take 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.240 a pay cut. Maybe they did, I don't know, and 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.960 then they moved on because I just it didn't make 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.240 sense to have him at that number, Like his production 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.640 didn't match the price. But you're creating a hole, and 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.480 they already had holes to fill on the offensive line 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:27.440 and now they have three holes. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.519 So that part of it. And he was a durable guy, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:31.520 which is what we like. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.360 We talked about that's been a problem for them, you know, 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:35.400 for the last couple of years. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.960 But I wasn't shocked, Okay. I thought there was a 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:38.960 good chance he would get cut. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.440 Thirteen different starting combinations up front last season, and he's 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:44.800 the guy who played every snap. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:45.640 Lincoln Thomlinson. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.840 Jets want to find a permanent home for Elijah Vera Tucker. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.480 Where do you think ultimately that could be. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.680 I think it'll end up being tackle, But I think 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.680 the market is going to influence it. And I think 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.200 what you know, you heard Joe Douglas yesterday talking about 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.440 his versatility and how that helps them to me right, 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.720 you need three players. It's either two guards in a 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.960 tackle or two tackles in a guard, and that's where 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.320 VERA Tucker comes in. If they if they look at 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.960 free agency, and I think they will look at it 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.440 like this, go the tackle market's soft, right Like it's 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.640 there's a lot of older guys, a lot of guys 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:17.880 that have durability questions. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.640 That's not what the Jets need right now. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.520 The guard markets there's some value, and we know like 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.560 Douglas likes to search for value. So I think they 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.200 end up signing two guards. Then you move, you kick 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.960 Avt out to tackle, and you draft a tackle. But 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.200 if something changes and there's a tackle that they really like, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.680 maybe they sign him and then they just sign a 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:38.960 guard and keep Avt at guard. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.080 But it's they've they're locked in. They want to I don't. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.440 Really understand the whole They think the injuries are coming 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.640 because he's moving around. I don't get that too much, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.320 but you do need to find him at home. I 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.160 think it's been tough for him to keep moving around 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:51.599 every year. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.599 He's a unique dude because most guys in today's landscape 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.520 are not gonna say, hey, listen, just play me wherever 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:57.840 you want. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.680 Yeah. They want to say play me at left tackle. Yeah. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.160 No, he's he's definitely, you know, a team first guy 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:05.960 and has been. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:10.160 And but to me, you know, tackle is the more 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:10.839 important position. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.760 Right, Like, if you go back and you look at 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.640 every game the Jets played, it felt like almost every 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.600 week there was an edge rusher we were talking about. Yep, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.960 that's like you're always it's always a storyline. For me 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.839 is like, oh, they're playing Miles Garrett this week. Let's 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.360 go talk to the tackles about what it's like to 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.360 play Miles Garrett. So there are some great interior rushers, 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.559 you know, like Chris Jones and uh, you know other guys. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.920 But to me, the tackle. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.680 Is is so important and Abt has shown he can 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:36.159 play there. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.520 If you're the Jets, who are you targeting a free 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.239 agency though at that position? 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.760 At that position, I'm not really sure who they're targeting. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.440 I think, like I said, I think the guard market 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.920 is where you go maybe like a Robert Hunt from 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.920 Miami and one from New England. He's got flexibility, can 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.159 play both. I think Joe's gonna be searching for value. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.880 If you look at the recent history, he hasn't done 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.760 well when he's gone the big money first day free agent. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.240 Right what he's done well on is that second wave? 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.400 And like DJ Reid, right, that's the best signing by 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.240 far in my book. That came you know, that wasn't 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:17.280 a big splash on day one. That was after Tyler Conklin. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:18.760 I think it was a really good signing and that 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.320 came after they signed Uzama, right, So like that came 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.840 second wave. So to me, I could see him going 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.839 look at the guard market, watching what happens day one, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.480 and then pouncing you know on somebody after that in 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:32.119 the guard market. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.640 But that's why I think Bowers would be a luxury 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.039 for the Jets because you mentioned Conklind coming off a 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.720 career high reception. I think it was sixty plus yeah 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.880 last year, and then Aaron Rodgers is gonna be throwing 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:44.480 the ball, right. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.640 I think you can use two though, And I think 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:47.960 what do you think of Rutger. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.400 I think the jury is still out on him as 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.880 a receiver. I thought he had some good moments last year. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.359 I think he's a good blocker. But to me, you know, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.400 Bowers is a dynamic guy, like you could He's almost 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.040 like another receiver, which we've seen now with Kelsey. Uh. 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.000 You know, it's it's like adding a receiver when you 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.880 have that guy out there. So yeah, I hear what 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.760 you're saying, and I think Conflient has done very well. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.840 But I don't know how long Conflidence I'm on the 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.640 team too, Right, He's an older guy contract stuff. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.120 So if you get a guy, a really young player 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.680 that you draft at that position, it could be could 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:22.239 be valuable. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.120 I think it's a leap yer still February, right, Yeah, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:26.960 so there you go. 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.320 So this is a difficult question at this point. But 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.600 do you think the Jets would be more likely to 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.840 move up in the draft and move back? 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.600 Yeah, it's tough on February twenty nine, and I think, uh, 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.600 I think move up a really. I think of where 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.760 they're at this is this is winn or go home 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.920 for Joe Douglas and Robert Sala, Right, I mean what 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.280 do Johnson made that clear at NFL Honors that they 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.600 have to win this year. So to me, it's like 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.400 if there's a tackle that they love more than the 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.680 other guys, right, and they're not willing to let whoever 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.520 follow them go up like move up to seven, move 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.680 like move up and get them right and and so 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.880 moving back. I just I think the only time chance 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.760 moving back is if the three eyes are gone and 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.120 then they don't want it, like they don't want to 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.640 take powers. Let's just trade back and get some picks. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.320 But I don't think they're worried about like not having 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:19.160 a second round pick. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.400 To me, they have a pretty good pick in the 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:22.840 third round. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.200 I think they feel good that they can get two 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:25.840 starters out of this draft with where they're at. So 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.440 I don't think that it's moving back is going to 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.520 be a priority. And we've never seen Joe do it 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.840 in the first round, right, He's never moved back in 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:32.440 the first round. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.320 Yeah, he's moved up. He got for ABT. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.760 He moves up for Jermaine Johnson, Right, So I would 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.160 had to bet I'd say moving up. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.840 He was here yesterday after he spoke at the podium 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.600 and he told us that he's anticipating in the range 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.760 of three compensatory selections, but probably all those in the 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:53.600 seventh rounds. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:55.280 Yes, yeah, I think that. Yeah. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.760 I think the guys that do those projections online, I've 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.800 seen you at seventh round. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:00.480 I think they may even end up with. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.079 Mister irrelevant about the projection. They might end up with 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:03.960 the last pack of the draft. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.679 How about that maybe the next So let me ask 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.040 you with that when we talk about somebody like pretty 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.839 Aaron Rodgers, We've talked about his age, we know he's 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.080 coming off the injury. The Jets are gonna be in 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.280 the backup quarterback market. Yeah, we'll get to that in 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:18.960 the second. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:19.520 Uh. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:24.200 Would you draft someone at some point as far as 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:25.120 a passers. 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.080 Like late like day three I might draft or undrafted 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.200 free agency would be a priority, and like as a 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.600 developmental third guy. And I think I think next year 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.880 he we're gonna be talking about quarterbacks, you know, even 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.440 if I think Aaron will still be playing, but I 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.959 think that's when the Jets will go maybe we need 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.440 to draft someone that can develop like high, that can 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.040 develop behind Aaron and watch him. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.480 So this year, I think. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.360 It would be a developmental guy like yeah, like end 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.800 of the draft or a non drafted free agency. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.800 What a difference a year makes, though, Right when we're 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.640 here in Indianapolis last year, we're talking about the quarterback 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.560 hunt being on for the Jets. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:01.960 Derek I. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.360 Stalked Derek Carr out at a hotel in Indianapolis last year. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:08.080 Tell us a story. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.800 Let's go, I just someone called me and said Derek 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.480 Carr was over at the Marriotte here, and that was 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.000 the Jets had met with him in Jersey in February 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.520 and they were meeting with him here the next day. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.720 So I just went over and he was with some 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.520 friends and I just waited him out, and then when 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.120 he went to went to the elevator bank, I ran 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.400 over and introduced myself, and he was very polite, said 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.679 he just wasn't talking, but he was. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:32.440 He was nice. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.400 And then I did hear from people inside the Jets 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.439 at their meeting the next day, he said, oh, yeah, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:41.400 one of your reporters got me at my hotel and 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.520 I said, yeah, welcome, Welcome to New York, Derek. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:44.720 That's what it's like there you go. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:49.120 At that point, I think Goody was talking at the 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:53.560 podium one of those days Packer's GM Brian Goodenkiss, of course, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.880 did you think that it was ultimately gonna be Rogers? 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.839 I'm trying to remember what I was before the flight, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:02.760 you know all that stuff. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.400 Yeah, he was still under contract, and there seemed to 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:06.439 be a lot of like. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:07.479 There was a lot of momentum. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.080 And I'll tell you, like from a beat writer, perspective, right, Yeah, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.400 when you throw something like when you start like throwing 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.000 speculation out about something like that, if you're if it 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.440 isn't going to happen, you get some pretty big pushback 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.640 in the organization, like they'll tell you it'll be like 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.480 you're completely off on this, And there was no pushback. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.920 From I remember writing about Rogers right after the season. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.880 I did a series like what could they do a quarterback? 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:34.040 And one piece was Rogers, and I expected them to 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:35.960 be like, ah, just down even if they were going 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:36.200 to do. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.960 It, like downplaying it, And there was no downplaying from. 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.680 The people I talked to it, and I'm like, oh, this 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.120 is They're going to go for this. And so yeah, 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.320 I didn't know how I was going to play out 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:45.560 at that point. I think we had a lot of 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.760 questions still then, but I did definitely think he was 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:49.560 the number one guy. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.280 What do you think of the messages coming from Joe 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.800 Douglas speaking at the podium here yesterday. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.480 Well, I think there was a lot of different ones. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.920 You know, I think they he he's not shying away 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.200 from what this year is. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:03.040 They need to win. 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.439 Yeah, you know, it's been I think Joe's done a 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.160 lot of good things, right, but they haven't won games. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.000 And I think Joe and Robert they both have there's 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.760 promise there and I think they both I have shown, 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.079 you know, that they can do the job. But you 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.120 got to win games in this league. It doesn't matter 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.880 what the process looks like. It's it's the results. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:24.240 Coaches. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.439 Coaches loved to talk about process, and GMS loved to 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.760 about process, but it's about results. So I think he 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.440 didn't shy away from that, said they have to win, 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.240 you know, And then I think he hit on a 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.200 lot of different other topics, but that that was my 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.280 big takeaway was kind of he he knows what this 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:38.360 year is for him. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.920 He seemed comfortable though, Yeah. 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.760 Joe never seems uncomfortable a guy I have never said 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.320 he's always he's he's a confident guy. I don't think 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.840 he worries about what's said about him or written about him, 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:52.400 you know. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.280 I think he just he knows he's got to get 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:54.680 this done. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:59.600 Zach Wilson given permission to seek a trade, what ultimately 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.680 that market look like? 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:02.280 What? 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.800 What seriously, what could he get in return for a 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.719 guy who was a former number two. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:07.679 Overall? I don't think much. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.640 Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm trying to be nice here. Yeah, 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.960 not because I but he I don't think they'll get. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.600 Much, but a late round pick is maybe maybe. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.679 Like here, like people talk about Tree Lance, right, Lances 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.120 drafted one pick after I saw somebody saying this yesterday, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.600 so they got a fifth round pick, right, But Trey 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.880 Lance never played, so that there was the unknown, right, 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.240 we all know what the unknown is. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:31.320 Like. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.960 That's why the backup quarterback is usually the most popular guy, right, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.160 because you don't know what he is. We know what 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.520 Zach Wilson is. He's played three years and it has 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:40.080 n't been good. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.720 I just I think they're gonna have a hard time. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:42.319 I think there are. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.640 Hard I think maybe they get a pick twenty five 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.280 for him, that that's fair. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.360 But I think it'll probably happen right around the draft. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.440 I think that that's when. I don't think this is gonna. 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:51.640 Happen soon, but it will happen. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.439 If it happens, I I they could end up cutting him. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.800 I'm not one hundred percent sold that. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.839 They'll be able to get something for him, because it's just. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.320 Uh uh, you know, it was bad on the field, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:03.120 it was bad off the field. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.400 That's not a good combination. So I don't know. And 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.720 like you, I go through right, almost everyone gets a second. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.280 Chance in the NFL everywhere. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.480 Yeah, I think if I go. 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.040 Through Jets draft picks and think about guys that didn't 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.040 work out for first round picks, the only guy who 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.280 never really ended up at a second place was de Milner, 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:23.720 and I don't know why, but he never got a 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.280 second chance. I everyone else got a second chance, So 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.560 I think Zach will get it. But I think teams 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.040 know the Jets are going to cut him at some point, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.840 so I'm not sure they'll I'm not sure what they're 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:32.600 gonna give up for him. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.440 What would your wish list be if you're Joe and 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.720 you're seeking a veteran back up quarterback? 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.000 You know, I like Jacoby Brissett a lot. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.320 He looked good in my LOFE last year. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.720 And he looked good in something in Cleveland two years ago. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.440 He certainly did so like he's played well against them, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.240 which I don't know what that's word, but I think 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:50.160 he's a good backup. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:51.680 Is there a price point you got to look at? 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.160 Well? I think the price points going up, right. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.400 I think he got eight million last year and he 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.040 was the how he was the top of the market. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.920 I gotta feel it's gonna be ten million this year, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:01.320 and I think they'll have. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.960 To pay up, just because not just you look at 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.640 the Jets, but also look what happened across the NFL. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:11.120 Backup quarterbacks are now more valuable than ever. I love Minshew, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.400 but I think Minshew will probably get an opportunity somewhere 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.840 to at least be a bridge quarterback of a team. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:17.400 In drafting a. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.320 Rookie Tannehill, you have to look at Tannehill because of 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.800 all the tech, Todd Downing and Keith Carter and all 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.560 and everybody. Now Tony Due's like all these guys came from. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.000 But I also think Tannehill might be in that market 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.040 of like somebody looking for a starter for a year, 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.720 or somebody drafting a quarterback and wants a veteran. I 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.360 think he might be that. Uh So to be Presette, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.360 is that the guy I'm really watching? Tyrod Taylor, I 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.400 think too. I think you would watch him cross down. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:42.800 Yeah. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.560 I think he's he's good. He just he has a 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.600 tough time staying healthy, but he's pretty good. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.880 So I told fans who're gonna be here on the podcast. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:53.040 So I got a so far, I look pretty good. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.200 I don't have too much I didn't control here on 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.920 my settence Michael Christopher as Brian cust whether Jets put 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.120 more value on Olu and All because they are really 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.640 the only true left tackles in draft comparison compared to 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.880 the right tackles of Fuaga and Geiton and Latham. And 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.600 then also he throws in there as Mike Williams a 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.080 consideration for signing if he gets caught by the Chargers 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.840 to be number two wide receiver this year. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.360 Let's start with the tackles. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:26.000 Yeah, I think that's definitely a question. I don't know what. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.640 I don't know if they view Fuaga as he could 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:29.440 play left tackle. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:30.160 I do think. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.480 I do think you can move guys from right to 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.600 left tackle. You know that was the question right when 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.960 with Wurfs in twenty twenty. It was, Oh, he's a 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.640