1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official New York Jets Podcast. Eric Allen 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: here at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, joined by 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: The New York Post. Brian Costello's giving us a few 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: moments of our time. It's Thursday, of his time. It's 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Thursday right now. You're gonna be catching a plane out 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: later this afternoon. I think most of you are going 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: to be hearing this or watching this on Friday, and 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: in fact, in a few moments you are going to 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: the podium to listen to Georgia tight end brock Bauers. Yeah, 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: what do you think the chances are for the Jets 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: at ten? 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: I think it's slimmy. I think they're going to take 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: a tackle, right, everybody does. I'm not, you know, going 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: out out on the limb there. But let's say those 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: tackles are gone the top three eyes. Then Bowers is 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: attractive because you need you know, we talked about receiver 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: a lot with the Jets, but you really just need 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: another weapon on this offense to go with Garrett and Breese, 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: and this. 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: Guy's a weapon. 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: So I don't know, Jets fans will be happy. Well, 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: some scars from Kyle Brady that still exists. I know 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: they're going back. It's thirty years ago. But whenever I 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: bring up a tight end, they hear about Kyle Brady. 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: So but I still think it's going to be a tackle. 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: But I didn't get they don't go tackle. Bowers is 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: definitely a shot there. 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: He's a very interesting prospect. I know. I've asked a 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 4: few people if. 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: They consider him a unicorn, and they mentioned the size. 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Not the biggest guy in the world, but awfully productive 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: on an offense that is going to send a few 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: guys to the National Football League. With that being said, 34 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: how would you rate Bauers against those top three receivers? 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Because you said, hey, offensively playmakers, doesn't matter about the position. 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the receivers are higher. Like 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: you look at what has happened at the wide receiver 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: position in recent years. That's become now an elite position. 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: Like you know, he used to be quarterback, left tackle, 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: cornerback and edg Rusher, right, those of the four receivers. 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: Joined that mix. 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: Like, look at the money they're making and Justin Jefferson 43 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: is going to reset the market probably soon. Uh, and 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: in the draft, I think those guys are now top 45 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: top guys right and tight ends. We can see you 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: can see they get you can get them in the 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 2: second round, you can get them in the third round, 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: and they're productive. So I I do think those receivers 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: are definitely gonna be higher than Bowers. 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: We got a couple of months into the draft. 51 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Is it your sense right here that there are clear 52 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: top two at the tackle position in pecking order with 53 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Joe Walt and Fishiano from your alma Yeah. 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: I think Fuaga is there right there too from Oregon State. Uh, 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: And so I think it's the top three. Like during 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: the season, you heard a lot about Alt and Fashanu, 57 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: but I think Fuaga has kind of joined that that 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: mix after the Senior Bowl. So to me, I think 59 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: it's the top three and then there's a drop off 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: after that. So we'll see how many go in the 61 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: top ten. You know, I think there should be one 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: there for the Jets. I think because I think those 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: receivers we talked about quarterbacks obviously are gonna go a lot, 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: so there should be somebody there. 65 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: At ten for the Jets. 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna get back to the draft. But 67 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: as far as the recent release of Lincoln Tomlinson, any 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: surprise there considering his cap number. 69 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: I thought they would try to get him to take 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: a pay cut. Maybe they did, I don't know, and 71 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: then they moved on because I just it didn't make 72 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: sense to have him at that number, Like his production 73 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: didn't match the price. But you're creating a hole, and 74 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: they already had holes to fill on the offensive line 75 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: and now they have three holes. 76 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: So that part of it. And he was a durable guy, 77 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: which is what we like. 78 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: We talked about that's been a problem for them, you know, 79 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: for the last couple of years. 80 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: But I wasn't shocked, Okay. I thought there was a 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: good chance he would get cut. 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Thirteen different starting combinations up front last season, and he's 83 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: the guy who played every snap. 84 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: Lincoln Thomlinson. 85 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: Jets want to find a permanent home for Elijah Vera Tucker. 86 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: Where do you think ultimately that could be. 87 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: I think it'll end up being tackle, But I think 88 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: the market is going to influence it. And I think 89 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: what you know, you heard Joe Douglas yesterday talking about 90 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: his versatility and how that helps them to me right, 91 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: you need three players. It's either two guards in a 92 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: tackle or two tackles in a guard, and that's where 93 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: VERA Tucker comes in. If they if they look at 94 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: free agency, and I think they will look at it 95 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: like this, go the tackle market's soft, right Like it's 96 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: there's a lot of older guys, a lot of guys 97 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: that have durability questions. 98 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: That's not what the Jets need right now. 99 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: The guard markets there's some value, and we know like 100 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Douglas likes to search for value. So I think they 101 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: end up signing two guards. Then you move, you kick 102 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: Avt out to tackle, and you draft a tackle. But 103 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: if something changes and there's a tackle that they really like, 104 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: maybe they sign him and then they just sign a 105 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: guard and keep Avt at guard. 106 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: But it's they've they're locked in. They want to I don't. 107 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: Really understand the whole They think the injuries are coming 108 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: because he's moving around. I don't get that too much, 109 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: but you do need to find him at home. I 110 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: think it's been tough for him to keep moving around 111 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: every year. 112 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: He's a unique dude because most guys in today's landscape 113 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: are not gonna say, hey, listen, just play me wherever 114 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: you want. 115 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. They want to say play me at left tackle. Yeah. 116 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: No, he's he's definitely, you know, a team first guy 117 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: and has been. 118 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: And but to me, you know, tackle is the more 119 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: important position. 120 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: Right, Like, if you go back and you look at 121 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: every game the Jets played, it felt like almost every 122 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: week there was an edge rusher we were talking about. Yep, 123 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: that's like you're always it's always a storyline. For me 124 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: is like, oh, they're playing Miles Garrett this week. Let's 125 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: go talk to the tackles about what it's like to 126 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: play Miles Garrett. So there are some great interior rushers, 127 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 2: you know, like Chris Jones and uh, you know other guys. 128 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: But to me, the tackle. 129 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: Is is so important and Abt has shown he can 130 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: play there. 131 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: If you're the Jets, who are you targeting a free 132 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: agency though at that position? 133 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: At that position, I'm not really sure who they're targeting. 134 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: I think, like I said, I think the guard market 135 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: is where you go maybe like a Robert Hunt from 136 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: Miami and one from New England. He's got flexibility, can 137 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: play both. I think Joe's gonna be searching for value. 138 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: If you look at the recent history, he hasn't done 139 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: well when he's gone the big money first day free agent. 140 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: Right what he's done well on is that second wave? 141 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: And like DJ Reid, right, that's the best signing by 142 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: far in my book. That came you know, that wasn't 143 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: a big splash on day one. That was after Tyler Conklin. 144 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: I think it was a really good signing and that 145 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: came after they signed Uzama, right, So like that came 146 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: second wave. So to me, I could see him going 147 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: look at the guard market, watching what happens day one, 148 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: and then pouncing you know on somebody after that in 149 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 2: the guard market. 150 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: But that's why I think Bowers would be a luxury 151 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: for the Jets because you mentioned Conklind coming off a 152 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: career high reception. I think it was sixty plus yeah 153 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: last year, and then Aaron Rodgers is gonna be throwing 154 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: the ball, right. 155 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: I think you can use two though, And I think 156 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: what do you think of Rutger. 157 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: I think the jury is still out on him as 158 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: a receiver. I thought he had some good moments last year. 159 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: I think he's a good blocker. But to me, you know, 160 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: Bowers is a dynamic guy, like you could He's almost 161 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: like another receiver, which we've seen now with Kelsey. Uh. 162 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's like adding a receiver when you 163 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: have that guy out there. So yeah, I hear what 164 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: you're saying, and I think Conflient has done very well. 165 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: But I don't know how long Conflidence I'm on the 166 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: team too, Right, He's an older guy contract stuff. 167 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: So if you get a guy, a really young player 168 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: that you draft at that position, it could be could 169 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 3: be valuable. 170 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: I think it's a leap yer still February, right, Yeah, 171 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: so there you go. 172 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: So this is a difficult question at this point. But 173 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: do you think the Jets would be more likely to 174 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: move up in the draft and move back? 175 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough on February twenty nine, and I think, uh, 176 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: I think move up a really. I think of where 177 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: they're at this is this is winn or go home 178 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: for Joe Douglas and Robert Sala, Right, I mean what 179 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: do Johnson made that clear at NFL Honors that they 180 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: have to win this year. So to me, it's like 181 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: if there's a tackle that they love more than the 182 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: other guys, right, and they're not willing to let whoever 183 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: follow them go up like move up to seven, move 184 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: like move up and get them right and and so 185 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: moving back. I just I think the only time chance 186 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: moving back is if the three eyes are gone and 187 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: then they don't want it, like they don't want to 188 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: take powers. Let's just trade back and get some picks. 189 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: But I don't think they're worried about like not having 190 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: a second round pick. 191 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: To me, they have a pretty good pick in the 192 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: third round. 193 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: I think they feel good that they can get two 194 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: starters out of this draft with where they're at. So 195 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: I don't think that it's moving back is going to 196 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: be a priority. And we've never seen Joe do it 197 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: in the first round, right, He's never moved back in 198 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: the first round. 199 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's moved up. He got for ABT. 200 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: He moves up for Jermaine Johnson, Right, So I would 201 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: had to bet I'd say moving up. 202 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: He was here yesterday after he spoke at the podium 203 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: and he told us that he's anticipating in the range 204 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: of three compensatory selections, but probably all those in the 205 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: seventh rounds. 206 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think that. Yeah. 207 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: I think the guys that do those projections online, I've 208 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: seen you at seventh round. 209 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: I think they may even end up with. 210 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: Mister irrelevant about the projection. They might end up with 211 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: the last pack of the draft. 212 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: How about that maybe the next So let me ask 213 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: you with that when we talk about somebody like pretty 214 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, We've talked about his age, we know he's 215 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: coming off the injury. The Jets are gonna be in 216 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback market. Yeah, we'll get to that in 217 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: the second. 218 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: Uh. 219 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: Would you draft someone at some point as far as 220 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: a passers. 221 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: Like late like day three I might draft or undrafted 222 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: free agency would be a priority, and like as a 223 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: developmental third guy. And I think I think next year 224 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: he we're gonna be talking about quarterbacks, you know, even 225 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: if I think Aaron will still be playing, but I 226 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: think that's when the Jets will go maybe we need 227 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: to draft someone that can develop like high, that can 228 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: develop behind Aaron and watch him. 229 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: So this year, I think. 230 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: It would be a developmental guy like yeah, like end 231 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: of the draft or a non drafted free agency. 232 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: What a difference a year makes, though, Right when we're 233 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis last year, we're talking about the quarterback 234 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: hunt being on for the Jets. 235 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: Derek I. 236 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: Stalked Derek Carr out at a hotel in Indianapolis last year. 237 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 4: Tell us a story. 238 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: Let's go, I just someone called me and said Derek 239 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: Carr was over at the Marriotte here, and that was 240 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: the Jets had met with him in Jersey in February 241 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: and they were meeting with him here the next day. 242 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: So I just went over and he was with some 243 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: friends and I just waited him out, and then when 244 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: he went to went to the elevator bank, I ran 245 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: over and introduced myself, and he was very polite, said 246 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: he just wasn't talking, but he was. 247 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: He was nice. 248 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: And then I did hear from people inside the Jets 249 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: at their meeting the next day, he said, oh, yeah, 250 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: one of your reporters got me at my hotel and 251 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, welcome, Welcome to New York, Derek. 252 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: That's what it's like there you go. 253 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: At that point, I think Goody was talking at the 254 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: podium one of those days Packer's GM Brian Goodenkiss, of course, 255 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: did you think that it was ultimately gonna be Rogers? 256 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what I was before the flight, 257 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: you know all that stuff. 258 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was still under contract, and there seemed to 259 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 4: be a lot of like. 260 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,479 Speaker 3: There was a lot of momentum. 261 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, like from a beat writer, perspective, right, Yeah, 262 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: when you throw something like when you start like throwing 263 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: speculation out about something like that, if you're if it 264 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: isn't going to happen, you get some pretty big pushback 265 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: in the organization, like they'll tell you it'll be like 266 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: you're completely off on this, And there was no pushback. 267 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: From I remember writing about Rogers right after the season. 268 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: I did a series like what could they do a quarterback? 269 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: And one piece was Rogers, and I expected them to 270 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: be like, ah, just down even if they were going 271 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: to do. 272 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 3: It, like downplaying it, And there was no downplaying from. 273 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: The people I talked to it, and I'm like, oh, this 274 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: is They're going to go for this. And so yeah, 275 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: I didn't know how I was going to play out 276 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: at that point. I think we had a lot of 277 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: questions still then, but I did definitely think he was 278 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: the number one guy. 279 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: What do you think of the messages coming from Joe 280 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Douglas speaking at the podium here yesterday. 281 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think there was a lot of different ones. 282 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: You know, I think they he he's not shying away 283 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: from what this year is. 284 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: They need to win. 285 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's been I think Joe's done a 286 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: lot of good things, right, but they haven't won games. 287 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: And I think Joe and Robert they both have there's 288 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: promise there and I think they both I have shown, 289 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: you know, that they can do the job. But you 290 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: got to win games in this league. It doesn't matter 291 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: what the process looks like. It's it's the results. 292 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: Coaches. 293 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 2: Coaches loved to talk about process, and GMS loved to 294 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: about process, but it's about results. So I think he 295 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: didn't shy away from that, said they have to win, 296 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: you know, And then I think he hit on a 297 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: lot of different other topics, but that that was my 298 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: big takeaway was kind of he he knows what this 299 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: year is for him. 300 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: He seemed comfortable though, Yeah. 301 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: Joe never seems uncomfortable a guy I have never said 302 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: he's always he's he's a confident guy. I don't think 303 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: he worries about what's said about him or written about him, 304 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: you know. 305 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: I think he just he knows he's got to get 306 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: this done. 307 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson given permission to seek a trade, what ultimately 308 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: that market look like? 309 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: What? 310 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: What seriously, what could he get in return for a 311 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: guy who was a former number two. 312 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: Overall? I don't think much. 313 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm trying to be nice here. Yeah, 314 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: not because I but he I don't think they'll get. 315 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: Much, but a late round pick is maybe maybe. 316 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: Like here, like people talk about Tree Lance, right, Lances 317 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: drafted one pick after I saw somebody saying this yesterday, 318 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: so they got a fifth round pick, right, But Trey 319 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: Lance never played, so that there was the unknown, right, 320 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: we all know what the unknown is. 321 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: Like. 322 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: That's why the backup quarterback is usually the most popular guy, right, 323 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: because you don't know what he is. We know what 324 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson is. He's played three years and it has 325 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: n't been good. 326 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: I just I think they're gonna have a hard time. 327 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: I think there are. 328 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: Hard I think maybe they get a pick twenty five 329 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: for him, that that's fair. 330 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: But I think it'll probably happen right around the draft. 331 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: I think that that's when. I don't think this is gonna. 332 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: Happen soon, but it will happen. 333 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: If it happens, I I they could end up cutting him. 334 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sold that. 335 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 3: They'll be able to get something for him, because it's just. 336 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: Uh uh, you know, it was bad on the field, 337 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: it was bad off the field. 338 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: That's not a good combination. So I don't know. And 339 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: like you, I go through right, almost everyone gets a second. 340 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: Chance in the NFL everywhere. 341 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if I go. 342 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: Through Jets draft picks and think about guys that didn't 343 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: work out for first round picks, the only guy who 344 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: never really ended up at a second place was de Milner, 345 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: and I don't know why, but he never got a 346 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: second chance. I everyone else got a second chance, So 347 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: I think Zach will get it. But I think teams 348 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: know the Jets are going to cut him at some point, 349 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: so I'm not sure they'll I'm not sure what they're 350 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: gonna give up for him. 351 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: What would your wish list be if you're Joe and 352 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: you're seeking a veteran back up quarterback? 353 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: You know, I like Jacoby Brissett a lot. 354 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: He looked good in my LOFE last year. 355 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: And he looked good in something in Cleveland two years ago. 356 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: He certainly did so like he's played well against them, 357 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: which I don't know what that's word, but I think 358 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: he's a good backup. 359 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: Is there a price point you got to look at? 360 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: Well? I think the price points going up, right. 361 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: I think he got eight million last year and he 362 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: was the how he was the top of the market. 363 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: I gotta feel it's gonna be ten million this year, 364 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: and I think they'll have. 365 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: To pay up, just because not just you look at 366 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: the Jets, but also look what happened across the NFL. 367 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: Backup quarterbacks are now more valuable than ever. I love Minshew, 368 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: but I think Minshew will probably get an opportunity somewhere 369 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: to at least be a bridge quarterback of a team. 370 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: In drafting a. 371 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: Rookie Tannehill, you have to look at Tannehill because of 372 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: all the tech, Todd Downing and Keith Carter and all 373 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: and everybody. Now Tony Due's like all these guys came from. 374 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: But I also think Tannehill might be in that market 375 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: of like somebody looking for a starter for a year, 376 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: or somebody drafting a quarterback and wants a veteran. I 377 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: think he might be that. Uh So to be Presette, 378 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: is that the guy I'm really watching? Tyrod Taylor, I 379 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: think too. I think you would watch him cross down. 380 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 381 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: I think he's he's good. He just he has a 382 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: tough time staying healthy, but he's pretty good. 383 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: So I told fans who're gonna be here on the podcast. 384 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: So I got a so far, I look pretty good. 385 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: I don't have too much I didn't control here on 386 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: my settence Michael Christopher as Brian cust whether Jets put 387 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: more value on Olu and All because they are really 388 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: the only true left tackles in draft comparison compared to 389 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: the right tackles of Fuaga and Geiton and Latham. And 390 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: then also he throws in there as Mike Williams a 391 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: consideration for signing if he gets caught by the Chargers 392 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: to be number two wide receiver this year. 393 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: Let's start with the tackles. 394 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's definitely a question. I don't know what. 395 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if they view Fuaga as he could 396 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: play left tackle. 397 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: I do think. 398 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: I do think you can move guys from right to 399 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: left tackle. You know that was the question right when 400 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: with Wurfs in twenty twenty. It was, Oh, he's a 401 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: right tackle. Well look at how he's done. He's done 402 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, And so I think I don't think 403 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: they can't worry about that. I think they need to 404 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: take the best player and then figure out when they 405 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: get the man and they can again Abtser still he 406 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: helps there. I think Abt can play left tackle if 407 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: they if they needed to. And then Mike Williams, Yeah, 408 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean I think they would definitely have interest if 409 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: he comes available. 410 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: Adam b what's a position that Jets will target this 411 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: offseason that isn't getting much attention from fans? 412 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: I like this question. 413 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go interior defensive line, right, because they 414 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: have Quinn and then they don't have much else under contract. 415 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: So Quinn Jefferson up, yep, Sally Woods. 416 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: Up, Salomon Thomas. 417 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, so I think they probably look to bring 418 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: Jefferson and Thomas back, but they could go a different direction, 419 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: and that, to me, that's going to be critical. 420 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 421 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: You know, if you had a criticism of the Jets defense, 422 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: it's been against the run, and so they that's right 423 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: off the middle. They need to get that short up 424 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be a position. And 425 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: the second one, I go safety, right, like Jordan White 426 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: heads up? 427 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: What do they do there. 428 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 4: As well? 429 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: So you know, I think those. 430 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: Are the two positions to watch that aren't getting a 431 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: lot of attention right now. 432 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: Safety maybe take a flyer on Day three of the draft, right. 433 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean could I mean again, and and that's 434 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: also that would be a guy who play special teams 435 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: right safety exactly right? Is that's that's you know, that's 436 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: because you have to consider that as well when you're 437 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: looking at it. 438 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: Davis finding football, he's. 439 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: An interesting guy, right, So, like you know who he 440 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: reminds me of is Eric Smith? 441 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: Eric Smith? Right Smith? 442 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: Great special teams player, great, and then like he would 443 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: have like he play a little defense, and he played 444 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: pretty well, but then like when they tried. 445 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: To make him the guy, he didn't go so well. 446 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: So I'm wondering, Like I remember Mike Patton told me 447 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: about Eric Smith one time. He's like, you love him 448 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: at three hundred snaps, not so much of a thousand, 449 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: So Ashton, I don't know, like I can he can 450 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: he be a thousand snap guy? 451 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I think they'd be reluctant to do that. 452 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 4: So we got a couple of minutes with it, Bryce Huff. 453 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: The cap going up in the National Football League, I 454 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: think to a number that I don't know if a 455 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of people anticipate is gonna be quite that high. 456 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 4: So how does that impact the job? 457 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: It helps? 458 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: Right, I mean I think it definitely helps. I think 459 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: they That was the first thing I heard was from 460 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: people that, like, you know, they said, oh maybe they 461 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: maybe this changes things with Huff. Yeah, maybe they can 462 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: go a little bit higher. I just don't think anyone 463 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: knows what the market is for Bryce Huff, and I 464 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: think the Jets might have to let him explore it 465 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: because maybe it's not gonna be as high as he 466 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: and his agent think. So I wouldn't be shocked yea 467 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: if he hits free agency right, goes out, sees what 468 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: he can get, and the Jets have to hope he 469 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: comes back to them and says, you know what this 470 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: is what so and so offered? 471 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 3: Are you? Are you going to meet it? So? 472 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: I think I think that's the big thing, is the market. 473 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: And then is he content being part of rotation or 474 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: does he feel like he wants to play on first 475 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: and second now more? And will some team tell him 476 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: he's going to do that? That's also a factor in this. 477 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: What do you make of Rogers before he gets back 478 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: here in April? 479 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: And I would expect he's going to be around the 480 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 4: team quite a bit. 481 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: I really think he embraced the area and the organization 482 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: quite a bit. 483 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 4: What he's facing ahead. 484 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: Being where he's at at this point of his career, 485 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: where I think all of a sudden after last year, 486 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: all this hype around the team and the organization, now 487 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of people, I think people are forgetting how good 488 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: he has been in the past, or maybe they're counting 489 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: him out and they just don't believe that a forty 490 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: year old who's going to be forty one can Can 491 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: he climb this mountain again? 492 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? 493 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: I take down at your own risk, right, I mean, 494 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: the guy's in NFL legend for a reason. 495 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: Is he going to be what he was in twenty twenty? 496 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't know if he 497 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: can duplicate that, but even a little bit diminished Aaron Rodgers, 498 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: it's still better than anything that Jets have had in 499 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: you know, years and years and years. So I just 500 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: saw you O'Connor, my former colleague. 501 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: He's coming. 502 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: He has a book coming out. Yeah, And he tweeted 503 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: yesterday he's just he spent some time with Aaron and 504 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: California recently and he said, Aaron's bigger. He bulked up, 505 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: so he added some size, And I think this guy 506 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: is going to be on a mission, right, Like he 507 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: hears all the stuff that you just talked about, and 508 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: I think he's probably he's probably taking a little taken 509 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: aback right now, of like, because last year he came 510 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 2: in and it was a love fest and it was 511 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: it's not always like that around the jetsa you might 512 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: know on Twitter and such, and so now like the 513 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: team's getting little, you know, there's there's a little lot 514 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: of doubt, there's a lot of criticism. 515 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: I think he's going to. 516 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: Be fired up and I'd be surprised if he doesn't 517 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: have a really good season. 518 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: If Aaron Rodgers says a really good season, Jets are 519 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: playoff team. 520 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 521 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: I mean the key to Aaron Rodgers having a really 522 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: good season right is keeping him up right. And that's 523 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: what we talked about with the offense. That's what we're 524 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: talking about. The offensive line they got. They got to 525 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: keep him up right, and they got to keep him 526 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: playing and give him some more help on offense. 527 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: Will the Jets be in the market for a free 528 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 4: agent receiver. 529 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think they have to be. 530 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 4: We were talking about it before we came back. 531 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: The receiver market's tough because so many guys get tagged 532 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: and you know, we just heard Chris Ballard said yesterday 533 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: Pittman's gonna be tagged or I think he said he 534 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: will use it as a tool, but didn't sound like 535 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Pittman's going anywhere. I do think the Bucks are going 536 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: to resign Mike Evans. He's gonna off the market. So 537 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley is the guy to be that's gonna be 538 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: the top of the market. And we'll see, you know, 539 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: I think the Jets will be interested. 540 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: All right, So you got to go to Bauer's podium 541 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: and then you are going to catch a flight a 542 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: great stuff. 543 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: Uh. 544 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: Anything to add on Hardman or beyond Dawkins this week, 545 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: that's just amazing. I didn't have any of this stuff 546 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: on my Bengal card before. 547 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I would just say with mikhole Harmon, 548 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: take some of this with a grain of salt. 549 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: Uh, the guy got traded. 550 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: I think Thomas Morris had said it pretty well, right, 551 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: you know, Xavier, like you got beat up by Xavier Gibson. 552 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: That's pretty tough to take. 553 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: Uh. 554 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 3: He didn't. 555 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: He didn't do anything with the team really, so you 556 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: know he's he's an unhappy guy with the team. So 557 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: I don't go crazy with that. Dean Dawkins. I think 558 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the Buffalo game. Yeah, I 559 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be chippy. Yeah, I think you know, uh, 560 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: I I understand these beef with Clemons. 561 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: I get it Clemens. I think Clemens. 562 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: I have some issues with the way Clemens kind of 563 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: carries himself and stuff. So I think I get that. 564 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: I didn't understand kind of making it all about. 565 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: The entire organization. 566 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 567 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: Well, and like also saying like there when you say Instagram, 568 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: like their Instagram, and then he was sitting with his 569 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: shirt off doing a podcast. 570 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, okay, like you know, it. 571 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: Was an interesting take, but the game is gonna be fun. 572 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: It adds a layer which is great for me. The 573 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: first thing I know was, oh boy, that's gonna be 574 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: a fun week, you know, writing about that, because some 575 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: of the guys went back at him on Twitter and stuff. 576 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: So it's it's gonna be interesting. But it's amazing Jets. 577 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: The Jets, there's always in the middle of everything. 578 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: Yea. 579 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: God's enjoyed it. Thanks buddy, all right, thank you.