00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your own presences presence enough. And I already had too much stuff, So how do you. 00:00:36 Speaker 2: Dare to surbey me? Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm prettyer winegarl. We're here in the studio. I hope you're doing. I hope you're doing as well as your circumstances and brain chemistry allow. I'm fine. What's happening this morning? Well, on the way here, I saw a license plate cover that said a happy wife is spoiled by hobby, which I thought was cute, real sweet. That was on the back of a gray mini van. So true, and that kind of brightened my morning. I've unfortunately tried to go to home depot. I need a new pot. 00:01:23 Speaker 3: It was a. 00:01:24 Speaker 2: Disaster, huge mistake. Every pot they had was either boring or tacky. So now I have to think of another place to buy a pot. Where else do you buy a pot? I feel like I had one other thing to complain about, and I can't remember what it was. Maybe that'll come up during conversation. But I think that's everything. I think we should just get into the podcast. Let me see, let me look at my notes. No, we're good. Our guest is fantastic. Truly, everybody loves this person. It's John Marcos Arasi. 00:01:54 Speaker 3: I don't know that that's very generous. 00:01:56 Speaker 2: I would say a large chunk of people love the people that get it. 00:02:02 Speaker 3: Okay, good? Yeah, yeah, I think I would win the popular vote right now by a slim A slim about. 00:02:08 Speaker 2: Who isn't liking you right now? 00:02:11 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I mean, I mean there's definitely I'm canceling. Like I'm saying yes to too many things. Okay, sure, and it's like reaching that thresholder, I'm like, stop saying yes to these things. You then cancel the day before. And I'm talking like comedy shows like stand up shows in New York, small. 00:02:30 Speaker 2: Show or friends shows that kind of thing. 00:02:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm friends, but like just like up and coming. I remember when I had a weekly show and it was like the headliner. I was paying them twenty five bucks and day of they'd cancel and I'd be like, how could you do this to us? You're the big picture on the fly or we made that in Canva. It took me three hours. How could you do this to me? 00:02:54 Speaker 2: Of course? 00:02:55 Speaker 3: And now I see you're doing that happening well right, So I imagine there's some people that are bothered. 00:03:02 Speaker 2: But are you usually pretty dependable? Do you feel like I think? I mean, you got here right on time, which was so nice. 00:03:09 Speaker 3: I was chastised for being late at like a summer camp once in a way that was so intense it rewired right like it was a musical theater camp. He had been on Broadway once since it was like this an older guy and I don't know. He was offering to give me a little private lesson before the class in the morning, and I just shaving took longer and I was a little late, and he dreamed me. He yelled at this sex seven thirty in the morning, and then he made me do the lesson as the class was shuffling in. 00:03:45 Speaker 2: Oh, how humiliating. 00:03:46 Speaker 3: And it was like a tenor song that was too high for me. And I hadn't warmed up properly, so I'm just cracking just could be who knows as the class is shuffling in and and he was like very mad. I think I appropriately showed how much shame I felt, and at the end of the class he gave me like a I appreciate how bad you feel. I know that you didn't mean what you did right and all was forgiven. 00:04:13 Speaker 2: He felt some earnest repentance. Yes, wow, I mean that's Broadway. That's Broadway baby. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 00:04:20 Speaker 2: Wait. So did you do musical theater growing up? Or was this just like a one off? 00:04:24 Speaker 3: Then I did a lot of musical theater summer camps. I went to college for musical theater. No way, it was what I wanted, right, And then I just singing. I just hit a wall. I kind of got. I had one teacher who I would like. The school didn't want me to see this teacher because it was back home. It was like my high school teacher, and they were like, we have better teachers here. I secretly saw her on the side. How was salacious yet felt it was really. I mean, it's insane looking back, but I would go into the voice booths and I would spend hours there every day. I was obsessive, and I was so scared of being caught in this gigantic campus University of Miami. I would bring my blanket and I would stuff it into the corners of the little private wind yeah, and it would end by these And I was sweating in these booths in Miami, secretly having an hour lesson for no one. No one was catching me, and everyone. 00:05:24 Speaker 2: Knew what I was doing, right, Clearly something was going on. 00:05:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamark is missing three hours every day? What is he doing? What's that? Why is that window covered of course with a blue fuzzy blanket. 00:05:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, well, they hope he's doing he's singing back there, yeah, yeah, and uh. 00:05:41 Speaker 3: And I'm sure it was like a gross play. It's like, oh that, why is that blanket of comestans on? 00:05:45 Speaker 2: Like it from home? 00:05:46 Speaker 3: Yes? And so I just saw her, and I I believe that she was like it. It was a little bit of a cult, like she has all the answers, right, And then you had seen your year and you're like, I'm not Pavatti and I'm in voice lessons again. Now it's it's a decade later of like quitting and now I'm like flirting with it and singing a little more. And my girlfriend, she's she doesn't care about music. She was raised. She says, let's tell people it's habad, which is like a subsect of no one is. And she tells me she just stop saying habbad. No one knows what it is, and I go, let me educate them. And no music really growing up? Whoa so my singing? I think about the women who I'm not saying be everything, but they might be wooed. They might hear me some enchanted evening and go, oh how nice, how sexy this bird? Nothing. 00:06:49 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense to her, like her brain basically. 00:06:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like there's no you know, so much of music I think is connected to like nostalgia and our certain age going through puberty. I don't and that's missing. 00:07:03 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:07:04 Speaker 3: So she likes Joseph and the Amazing Technical or dream Code. That was the one you doesn't Bible friendly musical for the religious community. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: Oh they were allowed to listen to that. 00:07:13 Speaker 3: It wasn't even a it was just had they owned the VHS. Okay, But like she told me a story in high school where it was like the kids they found out she was listening to Britney Spears and like as an insult, they were like, why don't you just go listen to Britney Spears and the shame she all threw it away. So it's like Britney Spears justin in the amazing technical dream code nothing and then Klezmer music. 00:07:37 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, what sort of music are you singing? Old show tunes? 00:07:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I could sing more pop stuff, but I'm singing Rogers and Hammerstein, I'm singing Sondheim, singing William finn is my favorite Falsetto's and so it's still a little more classical. And I'm trying to learn how to do pop now. All right, it's all very tenory. All that pops uf is so tenery. It's tough. 00:08:04 Speaker 2: This is what I complain about male pop singers all the time. For whatever reason. I will listen to female pop singers NonStop. Yeah, the best women pop singers. But when a man is singing pop music, it's like one out of fifty isn't irritating? 00:08:19 Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it too? Is it just too high? It's just like I. 00:08:23 Speaker 2: Think it's just uh no, it's just too corny. Most of the time. I think there's like a weird earnestness to it that doesn't work. And yeah, I don't know what it is. 00:08:33 Speaker 3: I'm so you don't feel like with the women, do you feel like you have more of an allowance for the woman to be corny, because like corniness is but my girlfriend we see musicals and she goes, it's so corny, right, And I'm like, okay, you were raised religiously, Like come. 00:08:51 Speaker 2: On, who are do you say anything? 00:08:53 Speaker 3: But like, I think the answer is like we all have acceptance for corny in different arenas, right, And I understand if you if if, but like, why is it easier? 00:09:04 Speaker 2: I think one theory that was given to me by Lewis Vertell former guests, He said that women sell yearning better than men. You can actually you feel like the pain is actually there. And then when men are singing, it's it's too smooth or something. You don't feel like real any texture. But I like, I'll listen to like male rock singers. I see it's a different thing. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so who do you like men? Like like Justin Timberlake in his prime? Was he good? 00:09:31 Speaker 2: I didn't mind Justin Timberlake before we knew too much, before we know when he had the like those first couple of albums were good, Yeah, pop music. But after that, who are we talking about? 00:09:44 Speaker 3: Not as many? 00:09:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, there just simply aren't many good ones. 00:09:47 Speaker 3: Bruno Mars is cool, you know John Legend. 00:09:52 Speaker 2: John Legend's not really pop more R and B. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's where you get into the category of like Usher or these. I don't that sure, it's just when it's strictly popped, there's just a And I love corniness and musicals. I actually prefer a corny music really. I love when a musical is not trying to be cool. 00:10:09 Speaker 3: What's your musicals? What are your what are your favorites? 00:10:11 Speaker 2: I don't have. My boyfriend is like a Broadway vet, and I know so little about musicals. It's humiliating. But I saw, for example, I saw Hello Dolly when Bette Midler was in it. Okay, sure, unbelievable. What an experience. Yeah, just embracing the core and you can. 00:10:25 Speaker 3: Tap into that. 00:10:26 Speaker 2: Sure, when it's like more like trying to be edgy or cool, I have to back away, just like because it's it's simply not Yes. 00:10:34 Speaker 3: What are some of your favorites. Falsetto's is my favorite musical hands down. It's just a special one for me. And then all of the song times. But I think Company, I like the musical nine you know that if I'm looking like back to the Hello Dolly, because I did Cornelius and yeah, that's great. It was a lot of fun. Those corny ones. It just takes like a second to really get into them. But I like, I mean, I mean, you know, Oklahoma is a beautiful one. Hello Dolly is a beautiful one. What what else is? Jerry Herman Mame is good? South Pacific is put But I got to be in the right mood, right, I really got to enter it. 00:11:13 Speaker 2: And like music Man, Oh of course. 00:11:16 Speaker 3: I did that in eighth grade. If I've done it, it automatically enters the favorite territory. But music Man's fantastic. I don't think, Hugh Jackman, you you cannot be that good looking and play some of these roles. Right he goes into seduce the librarian. I think she'd go short. 00:11:34 Speaker 2: Of course. 00:11:35 Speaker 3: I don't care who what your thoughts are got, You gotta earn it. So I do think I do think some of those movie stars, I'm like, I'm like, Okay, not this one. You don't get to do this one. You got everything. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: Else, I know. I mean, we've entered that era of every movie star doing all everything. 00:11:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you just be a movie star? Jake Jonhall did Seymour in a little Shop of for It? 00:11:55 Speaker 2: Oh what that makes no sense to me? Rick moranis exactly what are we talking about? Not that Rick moranis isn't a great looking guy, but he's kind of a geek. 00:12:06 Speaker 3: Nobody's got to earn it. 00:12:07 Speaker 2: He's a geek. 00:12:08 Speaker 3: He's a geek. 00:12:08 Speaker 2: He's a cute geek. Yeah, but Jillen Hall is like, just like an objectively. 00:12:13 Speaker 3: Beautiful human being. What are you doing? 00:12:15 Speaker 2: I will say? In Zodiac he plays a good like kind of nerd kind of like. 00:12:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could be a good actor. But it's like, but what about giving it to the person who can't play They can't play Wolverine, Yah, can't play that guy. 00:12:31 Speaker 2: Representation and just kind of weird. We don't really talk. 00:12:34 Speaker 3: About representation when it comes to like looks because it's too hard a conversation because it the mid people would need to acknowledge. 00:12:42 Speaker 2: That they're mid. Right, Yes, and when you're an actor you really have to just act like you're the best of the best. Yeah, even in Look. 00:12:48 Speaker 3: But I'll acknowledge it. I should be music man over check. It came down to you and Jack for some reason. 00:12:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see him in that? 00:13:00 Speaker 3: No? I didn't see him in that. I've never met him. Okay, we'd have a good I think we'd have a good I'd be able to connect with them on musical theater for sure, right, and I would do that. You people people say, they'll say I look like Hugh Jackman, but with an adjective that makes it hurtful, So it's just. 00:13:16 Speaker 2: Leave it at huge Jacks. That's a great one because I've been I have been recently reminding people don't tell people who they look like unless it's somebody who's really good looking. 00:13:24 Speaker 3: Hugh Jackman. 00:13:26 Speaker 2: You could go a year on that compliment. But then if there's an adjective yeah. 00:13:30 Speaker 3: It's yeah, you gotta resist. I mean, I get a lot of Jeff Goldblum, Oh interesting, I get a lot of I get Hugh Jackman now and then, but it'll be skinny Hugh Jackman. It'll be jewish Hugh Jackman. Who's telling you. I mean, everyone the internet roast battles. Just generally, I get a lot of gay Hugh Jackman, and I goes, you need to look at Hugh Jackman a little bit. 00:13:52 Speaker 2: More gay, Huge Jackman, well google Hugh Jackman. 00:14:04 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:14:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, we won't say too much. But she was a great guy. And he loves Broadway and he's got a lot of Broadway, a lot of jazzy elements. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: And he's dating he's staying son Foster, who we met on the music ma'am. 00:14:16 Speaker 2: They're best friends. Yeah, they met in the school play and their best friends. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a beautiful thing. 00:14:26 Speaker 2: Now that you're starting to take voice lessonses, they're like some hope, like, oh, maybe I'll audition for musical like actual Broadway. 00:14:31 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think there are people who have done well, like they were a movie star, right going to musical theater and they get lauded and celebrated, and the bitch that I am, I sit there and I go, are we all gaslighting each other right now? They are fine? They should not be on Broadway, and I am just I go, I don't want to be the I don't want to be the bad person and in the good thing. 00:15:01 Speaker 2: Right the whole community is like eh. 00:15:03 Speaker 3: Yeah or there or it's just it happens with stand up comedians a lot, especially right now, is like stand ups like cool and buzzy, hot, it's like I see and I'm not. I'm not talking about everyone doing it because I know too many friends. 00:15:15 Speaker 2: Of course, I don't want I. 00:15:17 Speaker 3: Don't want to be the one that they go, wow, he got it to the end of the song. He got to the end. 00:15:22 Speaker 2: He remembered all the words. 00:15:23 Speaker 3: Remembered all the words. And I think my voice teacher is like, I tell him, you know, I do a thing called theater adult and I have like someone on and like, you know, uh, Laura Bananty's doing it soon and these are big right names. And I feel like my voice teacher he really is like he if I get a musical, and I do think it will happen, Oh yeah, I'll do a little stint and something. 00:15:48 Speaker 2: I think you're on your way to you know, they're gonna be They're gonna want to be like John Marco. Of course, this is the perfect person to slot into this role. 00:15:55 Speaker 3: I can tell my voice teacher doesn't respect me as a singer, and I think that's yet, but also with an air of like never walking off the stage. Yes, and I think that's good. I think I'm drawn to people who don't respect me because I go, you will keep me grounded of course in a world where no one else will ground me. Right, But I do think i'll do something or i'll do I want to just try to keep it, like, hey, come see me, I'll do a reading of Falsetto's. Tickets are cheap, or we're raising money for a thing, you're doing it. I saw Eliza Minelli in concert in high school and it felt like we were doing a favor for her being there. And she's a legend. But this was like, this was top. 00:16:47 Speaker 2: Right, this is probably you know, arrested development, Liza. 00:16:51 Speaker 3: We're doing it because I love you. I want to be here and see you. And as long as that's the premise of the event, I go far. If i'm selling, like come see me, reinvent this classic role and we lowered the key and you paid one hundred and fifty bars, and then I feel like then something has gone wrong. It's robbery, yeah, and I just want to avoid that. Right. 00:17:17 Speaker 2: I feel like you've went to college for it. You're actually you're so far ahead of other people who tried. 00:17:22 Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that. It's like, well, I have a degree in it, so it is good. But you always have a. 00:17:28 Speaker 2: Bedrock to build from whereas some others stand up who like sings in the car and that's all their experience. 00:17:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you see a singer like Mattel Lane's a stand up where it's like he could. I mean, it's a voice from God, and you go, well, what are you gonna do? 00:17:44 Speaker 2: But put him on Broadway and you're gonna get those Broadway message boards are gonna light up, You're gonna have opinions no matter what. 00:17:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Broadway community is it's a new particular. It's particular. 00:17:55 Speaker 2: You've really got to earn it. 00:17:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's so hard. I'm getting to a place where I can't shit talk the way that I used to. 00:18:04 Speaker 2: Isn't that a nightmare? It is a shame. 00:18:07 Speaker 3: It is because I prized I like to chit talk and that's part of my the best feeling in the world. Dang, but I've gotten It's now like it's I'm starting to feel not even bad. But like I did a venue recently and a manager can room and said, hey, so we work with this other venue and I know you had a problem with them, and I was like, what do you mean. He said, Well, there was a podcast. I guess you can plain, and I didn't even remember it because she was like, what can we do to make it better? And I was like, I swear to god, I was just like exaggerating a small complaint for comedic effect. 00:18:38 Speaker 2: We are fine, but there's going to be some positive change. They're going to look into whatever that complaint was. 00:18:44 Speaker 3: I mean I could abuse it for sure, of course. Yeah. 00:18:47 Speaker 2: I feel like you're right at the level, Like next level you get to, you'll be able to ship talk whoever you want, whenever you want, and it will only be for well, at least for your good. 00:18:56 Speaker 3: My girlfriend very wisely, and she's an entertainment and very smart. She said, you can decide publicly, are you going to be criticizing comedians for their politics or for being bad comedians? And she said basically, if you choose to do both, you can't be surprised if you don't have a lot of friends. And because because I would do the thing where I'd shit talk and then I'd come to her and be like, well, someone gave me a weird look at a thing, and She's like, yeah, of course you said they sucked, And so I took it to heart and I've got really hard in the political realm of shit talk, and so I'm you know, trying to keep more to the group chats the people I don't respect. 00:19:39 Speaker 2: It's a safer route to go. I mean it probably ultimately in long term in life, you're going to want to continue shit talking to political ones. You're never going to get into the same You're never going to care that they looked at you. 00:19:50 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, I think it's just that thing where it's like you'd see an artist you admire promote something and then you saw and you said that was terrible. Why did my artist that I loved lie to me? And it's like, well, because that's their friend. 00:20:02 Speaker 2: That's the Internet. 00:20:03 Speaker 3: It's because the person might not be gone on stage, but they're great at dinner. And that's just how oh. 00:20:08 Speaker 2: My god, I mean, going to see movies, watching TV shows at this point you'll be You'll start up. You're like, oh, I saw nothing but praise for this. I think, like this is one of the worst pieces of art I have ever consumed. What's going on? And you're like, oh right, people are friends with each other, yeah, and we have to say nice things about friends. But then yeah, in group chat that you're lighting it up. I mean, there are particular people that are just almost legends within group chats. 00:20:31 Speaker 3: I think the worst, the worst, the most toxic thing is when they someone you don't respect does something publicly and then you look at the comments just to be like, good, good someone someone say speaking, someone's saying it. I don't have like a burner account. I'm not that petty, but I'll look at the comments. 00:20:50 Speaker 2: Oh, of course thee I have one friend who's outside of the business, who still consumes a lot of things, and he seems so free o. His Instagram story is just saying exactly how he feels about everything. I'm like, I remember the time when I could just complain on the internet. It's just not really an option anymore, less and less, less and less. But now the career goal is just get to a place where I can I can just absolutely know. 00:21:13 Speaker 3: But then there's always you know them, you meet them, you meet them. That's like I did. I hosted a rally for Zorron this week. Oh wow, good for you, thank you everybody. That's yeah, everyone everyone's thinking good for me, of course. But it's one of those things where I'm like, you meet these people and you feel a human thing and the idea of then being able to go on a show and being like, you know, if they say do something that you disagree with, to be like fuck that person. But they were so nice to me. And then I can see the trajectory from that to Bill Maher being like Trump gave me a really nice dinner, and you go, what the fuck what happened? You go, you shouldn't have gone to that dinner. We can't help it. Of course someone's nice to you, that's the problem. You shouldn't meet these people. So it's just like it was just I'm a little it's a little close, and I go careful, careful, careful, But I feel like you're still throwing bombs. I yeah, but I said him, I said, listen, if you win, I can't. I have to critique you. I have to. And he was like give me one term and I'm like okay. I didn't. But I was like okay. And it's like ah ah, you can't be charmed. 00:22:24 Speaker 2: No, it's over for you. 00:22:25 Speaker 3: It's over. And that's corruption, and that's getting older. 00:22:28 Speaker 2: You get older and you become corrupted. 00:22:30 Speaker 3: Yes, and then the older people say the younger people you don't understand. And the younger people go, no, you're full of shit, and it's true, of course, and you're like, but I'm old and I just want to be a little comfortable. 00:22:38 Speaker 2: I won't be around much longer. Let me just die. 00:22:41 Speaker 3: That's the part I think about it is like when you look at the youth and you go because the older people go like, the youth are crazy, and you go like, can you not at least step outside yourself and go When I was the youth, I looked at this like this, and but as you get older, you're like, I get it, and you're slowly just being chipped away, and. 00:23:00 Speaker 2: I mean speaking of inappropriate things and just complaining and criticizing something I'd like to criticize you for. 00:23:07 Speaker 3: Please. 00:23:07 Speaker 2: I was excited to have you here on the podcast today. I thought, John Marc will come by, we'll have a nice time, and then we'll move on. The podcast is called I said no gifts, So I was a little surprised when your uber screeched into the parking lot and you stepped out holding what was obviously a gift. 00:23:26 Speaker 3: Yes, I I can't out myself, no self control, no self control, and you know, there's just an abundance. So I actually to make it worse, it's it's it's kind of a two parter. Okay, First I hear this is the best bakery in all of Los Angeles, and it just so happened to be right by my sister's place, where. 00:23:50 Speaker 2: I'm saying, what is this? 00:23:51 Speaker 3: But this is a I washed my hands. This is a croissant with with a nice match of power. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's beautiful. Where did this? 00:24:00 Speaker 3: It came from from Malu Malao Malao Coffee and kitchen. They got good coffee, good food, and good vibes. And that's all I tried. I tried to bring the vibes from there. And then I travel around a lot and my rider. It's not that complicated. It's flass. I asked for floss, ask for floss, and they don't give me just one flossy. They give me bags. And so, you know, don't feel guilty about this because I have so much fifty of these bags at my home, so two different kinds of flaws. They are opened, that's fine, But it's not like they don't go bad. 00:24:40 Speaker 2: Right If I found there's in a gutter open, that's a different. 00:24:42 Speaker 3: Source for sure. And sometimes they do open and they all pour out in a way that you're like, was the bag designed for these to pour out? And I don't want to use a dirty one, so I have to buy a new one. In this sauce scam, these did not. And one's a Crayola. 00:24:56 Speaker 2: I've never seen a Crayola flosser. Yes, fun philossph for kids. 00:25:01 Speaker 3: So these these are good. 00:25:02 Speaker 2: Let me look at this Creola ones. This is very interesting to me. Does it do anything like a crayon or is it just to appeal to children. 00:25:10 Speaker 3: I just think, you know, it's tough to get kids to floss. 00:25:13 Speaker 2: Oh they're great flavored, are they? Yeah? 00:25:16 Speaker 3: That's great? 00:25:17 Speaker 2: Interesting And none of them is purple, so there was a mistake on the Craola company's part, pink, green, and blue, and then they went, let's do this great. 00:25:27 Speaker 3: I love these. I when people complain about floss, I have to stop myself from I've floss with these three four times a day, a day. 00:25:34 Speaker 2: After each meal. See what's happening. 00:25:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a couple of crevices that are like they really they every something gets stuck every. 00:25:41 Speaker 2: Time, just a biological flaw on your teeth. 00:25:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got it. The dentist and one week, one time we filled it up and it still became a problem. 00:25:48 Speaker 2: Does the dentist get after you for flossing even though you floss. 00:25:51 Speaker 3: No, the floss they seem to be good with. They say more frustrating that I brush too hard. You're not in you're electric toothbrush. I do, but I still put shit too much. Oh boy, And that's one of those frustrating You're like, come on, I'm brushing, brushing too hard. Well, I know I have one receiving gum, and I asked them. I said, like they say, it doesn't grow back, And you go, what a flaw on art designs part. So much of us grows back so much lizards their tail, it grows back. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: I can get a whole new one. 00:26:23 Speaker 3: And this one piece of gum. And then it's it's funny where you try to like tell your your doctors, like to be like just so you know I'm on camera, You're trying to like instill on them like this is really important. 00:26:36 Speaker 2: What the brushing heart is important, That my face. 00:26:38 Speaker 3: That my gum, that my smile, like this has to be top notch. 00:26:42 Speaker 2: You're known for your gum. 00:26:43 Speaker 3: It's my job to smile right. So they told me about the grafting process. It does not horrify the Oh it's and they said, just you know that this is where I brought it up. They said, well, we'd have to take it from here in the color would be different. And I was like, oh, that can't not be. No, that has the same because I'm on TV. 00:27:03 Speaker 1: And so on. 00:27:04 Speaker 2: Does the does the gum come from your own mouth or a dead mouth? 00:27:09 Speaker 3: Well, they said you're this is where they said, your own mouth, and that's why the color would be different because it's a different part of the mouth. And then I said, well then we will have to go with uh dead, or I will pay if we need to get someone new. I don't know if when you do organ donation it's like donating to an actor. Yes, a gum for like they have to be above this level an IMDb meter. They can have my gums right. 00:27:37 Speaker 2: My fingernails to a manicure as the sort of thing. Well, that's what part of your mouth is so gummy that they're able to just harvest it for the rest of your mouth. I don't understand. What's I feel like there's none there. It's so tight. 00:27:47 Speaker 3: It's but that's why I think they take it. I mean, I don't I'm not a medical professional. If that's not clear. They seem to say, like from the side or from the top of the mouth that I'm like, is that is that gum gum? Really just where it's located. 00:28:00 Speaker 2: But it's just mouth, right, why not just take it from the back of my arm at that point? 00:28:04 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:28:05 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds horrifying. 00:28:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's they said, it's it's painful. You can't. I mean, it sounds brutal for like this very small. 00:28:13 Speaker 2: Right, And I feel like I'm headed in this direction as well, receding gum lines. But I feel like everyone is. And I feel like dentists sometimes are a little too careful. They're a little too cautious, and so they go overboard. So I've got to really have a problem before they're going to do surgery on my mouth. 00:28:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you'll feel it. I mean, they're just like that upper part of the teeth feeling of just like, ah. 00:28:35 Speaker 2: Oh you feel the sensitivity there. Yeah, sometimes now and then oh no, oh that sounds how. 00:28:42 Speaker 3: Can I not grow back? Truly, it's one of those knowing to be mad at wish I was more religious, so I could go to a church and I guess, look at Jesus on the cross and go, why why. 00:28:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in pain me too, great gums on him. But to me, this was like one of the things that they need to start growing on the back of mice. You know, they'll put an have an ear growing out of a mouse or whatever they've had too good for too long. Yeah, we've got to have gum, gum, skin or flesh on the back of mice. That's a good im. 00:29:13 Speaker 3: I feel like they must be able to take gum out of a pig. 00:29:16 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, interesting, Yeah, it feels like they're not thinking hard enough. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: If they can, if they can give you the heart of a pig, certainly, I mean, come on, come on, what are the pigs doing with their gums? 00:29:29 Speaker 2: When did you start like get getting serious about flossing? 00:29:34 Speaker 3: Honestly, like these these were a game changer for me. I like the foss it's a it's I have like a little adhd. I I was definitely like as a kid, I I went through sucking faces. I was. I was a necklace. 00:29:46 Speaker 2: Oh I did. 00:29:46 Speaker 3: The necklace would sometimes have like little like kind of slight rashes here the worst, the grossest. For a while, I was a shirt and just. 00:29:53 Speaker 2: Like didn't do the shirt. I would do the hoodie string. 00:29:57 Speaker 3: Hoodie string, for sure, Yeah, for sure. 00:30:00 Speaker 2: But the shirt, that's a tough one. 00:30:01 Speaker 3: It's gross. 00:30:02 Speaker 2: How old were you when that was happening? 00:30:03 Speaker 3: My middle school? Then in high school? And then the stains were at a different place. And I did pens pens constantly. Yeah, a couple back, the little the little round thing would pop off and I swallowed maybe two in my life. That's what. 00:30:19 Speaker 2: I haven't chewed on a pen in a long time. That's a good chewing tool. Yeah me neither gen Z doesn't know what it is to chew on a pen. 00:30:26 Speaker 3: I am brutal and like people will lend me a pen and within seconds it's in my mouth and I've completely forgotten this is someone else's pen pencils I did for a little. I remember the time when it would be like like maybe I got a splinter in my mouth just like I was chewing it. Oh my god, getting probably lead, no, like just the middle. 00:30:44 Speaker 2: Like, oh it's crazy, that's very beaver. 00:30:46 Speaker 3: Yeah. Never a thumbsucker. My sister was a thumbsucker. They had to get the nail. 00:30:51 Speaker 2: Polish, like the bitter nail polish. Yeah, she sucked with them for a while until when. 00:30:57 Speaker 3: I mean feeling like seven eight. It was it was, it. 00:31:02 Speaker 2: Was apparent just a parent. You're like, I don't know what to do here. I guess we're going to have to punish her with poison. 00:31:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much I would do. I would try a pacifier. I'm a chure like I do gum. I go through phase where I save myself like Jamarco, you need to take a break from gum because my jaw starts clicking and you're like this, this isn't gud. 00:31:21 Speaker 2: Are you chewing multiple pieces? 00:31:22 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean the high school went through phase where I would do like I do the whole fruit, by the what is it for fruit? By the no bubble tape, bubble tape, Like I have six feet of gum in my mouth, and I will definitely if again in orbits like I'm going I'll add that third pretty quick. 00:31:43 Speaker 4: Wow. 00:31:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I for a long time it was only a half apiece. Half You take me, my God, to get through one pa integrate that in seconds. I was split again a half. I thought, this is plenty of gum for me now, I'm you know, the little chick lit size pop one of those in I can't imagine having two pieces of gum in my mouth. 00:32:01 Speaker 3: I don't do it often, but sometimes, if the steaks are really low for a gig and I'm filling cocky, I'll go up there chewing gum and it feels cool. It feels it feels like badass. 00:32:12 Speaker 2: That may feel cool for you as an audience member. You're losing me. 00:32:16 Speaker 3: For you, for sure. I can tell you got some standards. I can tell you got some standards. 00:32:21 Speaker 2: There are some people who will go on late night shows chewing gum or interviews and all just pointed out Michael Keaton, if you ever watched an interview with this man constantly chewing gum? 00:32:32 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 00:32:33 Speaker 2: Such an irritating. 00:32:34 Speaker 3: Look some people bothers. I get it. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: I get it. 00:32:38 Speaker 3: It's like it calms me. If definitely I was nervous for like a talk show thing, gum chewing would absolutely like make me looser. 00:32:46 Speaker 2: It's a bit of a fidget spinner, yes, hidden fidget spinner. 00:32:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I like even when I'm when I try to act, I go back to trying to at Oh, give yourself but like my tension, like it's like, what is my tongue I'm doing right now? Why am I? Why am I thinking about the interior of sing Yeah, you feel your whole skull basically, and gum lets it, you know, just chewing. Yeah, just barbostize. Any audition for Funny Girl famously, she she was chewing gum and they the cast directors were like you, oh my god, what is this? What is this vile creature? And then at the end of the audition took it out put under the chair. They went over. There was no gum under the chair. She was acting the whole Wow. 00:33:29 Speaker 2: She's that good. She's that she can trick. Someone picks my nose and you're like, god, this kind of goes no Bookers, He's only disgusting in my imagination. Basically, I was swallowing each piece of gum I chewed four years and I've recently stopped that. 00:33:49 Speaker 3: But I feel like. 00:33:50 Speaker 2: If it's half a piece, that's that's a little yeah, maybe less. 00:33:53 Speaker 3: There is the thing where I'm like, I don't and sometimes I don't have the rapper and I put it down on something and then it's like a disasters then and I'm like, I can swallow this, right, you can? You can? 00:34:08 Speaker 2: I think you absolutely? Why is that there's a myth the whole seven year thing that's blow blooney? 00:34:14 Speaker 3: But like, is it bad for any reason at all? No? 00:34:16 Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, who I improve that? I mean I have a lot of problems, But I don't think it has anything to do with chewing gum or swallowing gum. I think it just passes through like any other thing. You could swallow a nail, Yeah, that might be slightly more difficult. The thing you can't swallow is two magnets. Those will go through your intestine and then stick to each other and forget it. I don't know how you do you forget it? 00:34:39 Speaker 3: You die? 00:34:40 Speaker 2: I don't know. They're clamped together and you're intestine. 00:34:43 Speaker 3: How did he die? 00:34:44 Speaker 2: Can you swallow two fridge megnots? 00:34:49 Speaker 3: I have to look this up. 00:34:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that chewing, chewing, and swallowing gum, I think we would solve a lot of problems. You know, there'd be less under the table. 00:34:58 Speaker 3: One old one like thing where people go if you are cold, That doesn't lead to more cold, It doesn't lead to you getting a colt, right, and that one, no one seems to believe. 00:35:12 Speaker 2: My boyfriend. Yeah, it's a constant finds like you're simply not going to get more of a cold or get a cold because of your body temperature. 00:35:20 Speaker 3: I think, like, I think what happens is if someone's cold and then you're warm, your body like creates mucus and so you feel what you would associate with cults. And because you just had a visceral ruppeture change, But that does not lead to you getting a cold later. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: Right, because it's a virus, does it make your body more vulnerable and then it can't fight the virus. That's the only logic I could get to. 00:35:41 Speaker 3: But it doesn't. 00:35:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just an old life's tale. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, but people, it's it's that I honestly think, like some of those things. When I think about like medicine and misinformation, I go, it's connected to small things. I believe that, like if we cannot establish that drinking a lot of vitamin C doesn't cure you, or that being cold because it's the same word as cold, doesn't mean there's the same If we can't do that, good luck with vaccines. Good luck. 00:36:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like trying to convince people. Yeah, yeah, what a good point. 00:36:20 Speaker 3: I do think. I mean all I think people got bitter of like, you know, a red wine is good for you. I still have that. And it was one study and it was debunked. 00:36:28 Speaker 2: Once a year, we're getting that study. Same with dark chocolate. 00:36:32 Speaker 1: Mmmm. 00:36:32 Speaker 2: And it's like, let's just make up our minds on this. 00:36:35 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. 00:36:36 Speaker 2: Or maybe it's just not important enough to keep putting in the news yause it's confusing. 00:36:41 Speaker 3: Eggs good. Yeah, that's part of the is the news. They have to summon up and they go, eggs good for you, eggs bad for you? 00:36:46 Speaker 2: Right, And it's like there's no gray area. 00:36:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I go to my doctor and they go, hey, we don't really know, but it's probably not bad. The way these doctors talk sometimes I'm like you go like, oh you go, oh yeah, it is a man made system, right, it. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: Is okay, you're a part and you might be bad at your job. 00:37:02 Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's just like it's not a consensus. It's kind of the thought. 00:37:06 Speaker 2: I think we should try this croissant here. Do you want to try some of it? 00:37:12 Speaker 3: I do? 00:37:12 Speaker 2: Okay, you take some first. Actually you're the guest here, it's beautiful. 00:37:16 Speaker 3: It is beautiful. I mean, god, croissants, Oh the crunch God, it just sounds amazing. 00:37:23 Speaker 2: This is a beautiful. Oh it's green inside as well. This is a real Macha croissant. I've never had a Macha croissant. 00:37:29 Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know if I have either. Man, it looks good. 00:37:34 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh my lord, look at that. 00:37:37 Speaker 3: Hm that's good. 00:37:39 Speaker 2: Oh that's phenomenal. 00:37:40 Speaker 3: That's really good. 00:37:42 Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. That's like an immediately flavorful but not overpowering wow. And a good chew, really good chew. You have a favorite bakery in New. 00:37:52 Speaker 3: York, No, I need to get one. I I was like overly like healthy in a weird way where eat a lot, but I would eat and I also would eat like so many raw almonds. And my girlfriend was like, do you understand these have a lot of calories? And I was like what? And that looks up. I was like, I could have been having Chris Hans this whole time. Yeah. So then I do interim into fasting now. And what I like about it is it's for me. It's opened up eating things that I didn't for a long time. So like I have desserts, oh, I was like I was not having desserts like period. 00:38:24 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. 00:38:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just it was just a neurotic thing. And now with the interimin fasting, I'm like, it just opened up permission in my own self right. And I live the crazy travel life, so it keeps me right. 00:38:37 Speaker 2: You don't have a consistent like you don't know where you're going to be eating, what you'll be eating. Yeah, maybe room service, this kind of thing. So how often are you fasting? 00:38:46 Speaker 3: And how I do it? Pretty consistent? I do? I do sixteen off eight on sixteen eight oh every day. Yeah, and then I'm trying to be more a little bit more like could I break it once a week and feel okay. 00:38:59 Speaker 2: It's slippery slope. 00:39:00 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:39:01 Speaker 2: So when do you start eating in the day? It depends usually eight hours As long as it's eight hours. 00:39:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I lean towards all fast longer then if if I'm you know, when I travel with time difference. Yeah, And I know this was some people just they hear it and they go, oh, you have You're describing your eating disorder. For us, it's like, yeah, sure, all eatings, it's it's all. 00:39:25 Speaker 2: I kind of like we're all disordered and disorder. 00:39:28 Speaker 3: I'm in la where I guess probably here it's like, yeah, that's a rate you eat for an eight hour window. 00:39:32 Speaker 1: Mine. 00:39:35 Speaker 3: So it's usually based on the show, right, I like to have my last meal like before the show. 00:39:39 Speaker 2: I think that's smart. 00:39:40 Speaker 3: And so so if my show's tonight is at seven thirty, so I would start at eleven thirty and that's and then you know, sometimes if I'm going to have a big I started it because I was in Australia, Okay. I had a promoter bringing me to these meals, right, like the best meals you could have in Australia, and I was like, I want to pick out, but I don't want to come back from Australia feeling like I need to catch up. I hate that feeling, right, And so I just I started doing it, and everything it was so much better. God, I really, I really worked for me. 00:40:15 Speaker 2: What were you eating in Australia that was so wonderful? 00:40:20 Speaker 3: It was everywhere has a wonderful food. It's just whether someone's paying for it. 00:40:23 Speaker 2: Right, And when someone's paying for food, I mean it's. 00:40:25 Speaker 3: People say New York's the best food city. I'm like really, and it's like, yeah, because I when I'm here, I'm here Monday through Thursday. I'm not going out to a fancy dinner, right, And then you do and you're like, oh yeah, people think New York is one of the best. I'm just not going right. 00:40:39 Speaker 2: I mean, you can almost any major city. You could probably make an argument that it's one of the best at this point, if you're willing to pay for it. 00:40:46 Speaker 3: I like Los Angeles because I think they have more middle healthy places. Oh absolutely, more than anywhere else in the country. I think if you go to like Paris, oh my god, there's more healthy options. But in New York it's like it's sweet green and then there's nothing in the middle. There zero. Absolutely LA will have like oh wow, this is like, you know, it's not the cheapest launch, but not the crazy right. I like Goop. Oh people. 00:41:15 Speaker 2: I finally tried the Group Kitchen recently. 00:41:17 Speaker 3: I like Goo. 00:41:18 Speaker 2: I have to say it was pretty good. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: I was way better than a Sweet Green salad. 00:41:22 Speaker 2: Oh my god, are you kidding me? The kale at Sweet Green, I complained about this all the time, is the driest food on earth that will choke you. 00:41:28 Speaker 3: It used to be good though, because I I've been with Sweet Greens since the beginning, because it started in DC. It was a yogurt chop. Originally what salads. I'm ninety nine percent sure salads is like a side thing. And then that took over. 00:41:40 Speaker 2: They called a yogurt shop Sweet Green. 00:41:43 Speaker 3: I think so maybe it was Machi Yoga, who the fuck knows. But then I was in Philly and like it opened, like the first one in Philly, and this is when it was like they had seasonal crispy kale and it was like the bulls are huge and the greens were fresh and I and then I remember the first one in New York and now it's all over near and I've I've watched the decline. 00:42:02 Speaker 2: Of course, I've watched it last time. 00:42:05 Speaker 3: Really, I think about all the places I've watched the decline of in my life. And I remember when the bowl suddenly there's these indents in the bowl and I was like, there's less bowl. 00:42:15 Speaker 2: That's a really sneaky movie on their part, the dimples. 00:42:17 Speaker 3: And they I think I I think I wrote them on Instagram and they said the bull is the same. I said, I remember when they would have a water station with ice, beautiful little ice cubes, and they get rid of that, and then it's just one. It's one of those, just one little thing. 00:42:34 Speaker 2: Oh is it the one with the little blue thing that you push back? 00:42:36 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:42:37 Speaker 2: I hate those ones. 00:42:38 Speaker 3: They're awful. The temperature is awful, it's no ice. What do you do? You got to mind? I mean, this is just capitalism, and you just watch everything gets so so bad. The door dash is so bad. I think of the door dash. If you request utensils and they don't deliver utensils, it's free. I because what do you want me to do? What do you listen? If I'm at home, of course I'll use my own suffer. If i'm sometimes I get it and I go, what do you want me to do? 00:43:09 Speaker 2: Do you want to eat it like a dance dude? 00:43:11 Speaker 3: And then I got to go somewhere else and go can I have Can I take a plastic fork? I'm not giving you any money. You don't know me. Everyone has needs. Can I take something from you? 00:43:20 Speaker 2: It would have to be a super a curry for me to seek out. If if it was a salad, I would just do hands, just say forget it. I'm eating with my hands tonight, and I wouldn't complain. You eat this out with your hands, Absolutely nothing stopping me from eating a salad. 00:43:33 Speaker 3: Do you put dressing on it? 00:43:34 Speaker 2: Well, see, that's a good, good question. I would have to dip. I'd have to turn it into dipping a salad piece pie piece. It hasn't come to that yet. I'm not a heavy heavy dressing person anyway, me neither. So I can see myself creating kind of a little bouquet of lettuce and then dipping eating. You know, sure times are tough. They don't give you the fork, But how am I supposed to do? Find like a big ladle in the kitchen? Maybe use a soup ladle to eat it? 00:44:05 Speaker 3: I love eating with my hands. I love eating with my hands more. Oh it's it feels you're closer to your taste better, tastes better. I mean, you see me with the rotisserie chicken, Mike girlfriend and I we have a similar You seem mannered. 00:44:22 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 00:44:23 Speaker 3: You know my my favorite musical, Hello Dolly. But but some people would wouldn't dare eat a thing with their hands, And that's give me a break. Grow up or like babysitter, growing up was was Filipino, and she would we eat a lot of rice, okay, And my sister was very picky eater, and I just remember she'd pick up this rice with her hands and just stuff it into my sister's mouth. And I just think that that's how I view food. I'm just like, yeah, hands, of course, of course, of course, especially. 00:44:47 Speaker 2: If it's sticky rice. Sticky rice, I think that you almost want to eat that with your hands. So yeah, I can see myself eating a lot of rice with my hand. 00:44:54 Speaker 3: What I do is I like to slurp a bowl. Oh my dream. I watch a lot of manga an anime growing up, and my dream is you take the chops that you go and I'm going to Japan for the first time. It's for a slurper. Oh, I'm going to go to town. But like people don't slurp. And then you're taking these spoons and you're going, all right, take away the soup. We wasted soup. 00:45:18 Speaker 2: No, I will within the United States, I will silently slurp. You go to Japan, you're supposed to, so they want to hear the slurp. 00:45:25 Speaker 3: I'm so excited. Just prepare yourself. 00:45:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, with the noodles you can just yeah. Oh, it's fantastic. Yeah, it's how it's meant to be eaten. 00:45:33 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:45:34 Speaker 2: When I get too many noodles in my mouth from a ramen or a soup and I'm here in the United States, it's a nightmare situation for me. I'm like, who's looking at me? When do I start chewing this? So it falls back into the bowl. I don't know what to do. Yes, but go over to Japan, go crazy. You probably wouldn't even eat chopsticks, just slurp away. 00:45:52 Speaker 3: Oh that sounds like when are you going? I believe at the end of this at the end of this year, and then I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna do a tour amazing of Asia, first time in Asia. Okay, so I'm going to do some shows in Tokyo and Singapore, Hong Kong, fantastic. Singapore have to submit a transcript amazing. See, the country is very strict. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. I've i it's the whole thing I'm there for, like the adventure of it. And uh, I'm not being paid by the Singaporean government, so it is It's not the same as doing Saudi Arabia right in my opinion. 00:46:28 Speaker 2: Well, in Singapore doesn't have a lot of human rights abuse. 00:46:30 Speaker 3: Y's definitely definitely different. But I'm sure it's just one of those things. It's just like any country you go to, you go like it's new. 00:46:38 Speaker 2: What's the problem at this country? 00:46:40 Speaker 3: Well, I went to I went to Istanbul, and it's just wild because Istanbul, as far as they were telling me, is like this like more liberal area in Turkey, for example. They told me, they said, you can say anything on stage. And then they said, just you know, there's going to be a Muslim called a prayer at the second show. And they said, but you say whatever you want in the middle of the show, by the way, and not like a quick like hey muzzle prayer, thanks guys, like like five minutes, okay, sure, sure, And they said, and you can, you know, joke about it, and I was like, oh, I was like I can. I can joke about it in any way, and he's like, in any way you want. 00:47:15 Speaker 2: And I did what I did. 00:47:17 Speaker 3: Of course, there's a part in the middle of my stand up comedy set and I went hard and then it was it was fun and everyone in the room it was it was clear, you know, I'm reading the room. Then I send them. I'm like, hey, I'm going to post this video if you want to collab on it or whatever. And he was like, do not post that video too far. He's like you you, He's like, you can do it in Istanbul, but if that video goes outside and other parts of tricky you you could get in, you know, to get trouble different and not come back. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: Varying levels of religion and. 00:47:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just like everything has its own everyone's got the system. And you know, there's a part of me that wants Singapore to go do it. You can't do this set. There's a part of me that wants to do a joke there. And my girlfriend goes, please don't. And I also go like, if I get in trouble in another government, Trump is not helping me right right when we got. 00:48:09 Speaker 2: To when we got a you would be a it would be a tough one to convince him. Oh, you'd have to wait to a new administration. 00:48:15 Speaker 3: And I have to be willing to go on TV and you know, put on the how we need to make America laugh again? 00:48:22 Speaker 2: And what a career turn that would be? 00:48:24 Speaker 3: It would it? Would be tough traveling with the speed which I do. Sometimes you go like more thought should be going into this. But I remember in Amsterdam, I was like talking to my girlfriend about how beautiful Amsidom was, and I was like, I was like, maybe maybe we maybe we could just move, we give upon our whole life. Move here. I'm talking to her about a beautiful and three people as I'm just talking regularly to my girlfriend, they're like, sh you're talking too loud, and I I I filled with rage, filled with a New Yorker rage, like fuck you. And it happened. It happened there, it happened in Germany, and then it gets to Greece. Doesn't happen there, And I go, yeah, it's it's I'm not you found some people for Amsterdam is the way it is because I'm not there right right. 00:49:14 Speaker 2: Amsterdam doesn't strike me as a quiet country. Yeah I don't. 00:49:17 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's Quaine and it's beautiful and serene, and so you know, I'm good. I just allowed talker. 00:49:23 Speaker 2: My dream country. 00:49:25 Speaker 3: Oh you gotta go, you know, no, Oh, it's it's stunning. It might be for me, but my girlfriend I we were loud Jews and we and she sometimes she was at a nail salon and like someone came over, like you're talking too loud, and it it hurt her feelings all because it's it's uh, it hurts for someone to be like the way you are is. 00:49:42 Speaker 2: Right, right, your personality is bad? 00:49:44 Speaker 3: Yes, And I nothing could make me upset more than when I see someone say that, like, hey, could you talk a little. 00:49:50 Speaker 2: Softer unless you're in a library. 00:49:53 Speaker 3: Unless you're in a library, sure. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: Or another country. I feel like in another country, it's like, well, this is the predominant culture. 00:49:59 Speaker 3: Yes, get with it. 00:50:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to nail salon. What are you talking about? 00:50:04 Speaker 3: Listen, I'm not a model of being like you know, I'm just loud. I'm not going to be a dick about it. No, you're a perfectly nice person down the street and I'm a little loud. Wait three seconds, I'll be gone if I'm in motion, No need to make me feel bad. The thing has already happened. 00:50:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need to chase me down to give me a note. Yeah, if you're standing behind someone trying to read a book, that's a different story. 00:50:28 Speaker 3: And listen this why but this why I'm in New York. You're with her around a lot of people getting shipped done in a time crunch. Yes, yes, and so there's more room for that. Like I was, like I was. I was in a coffee shop. What thirty minutes, I was editing a comedy special news do here, and the WiFi was bad and and so you know, in the midst of that, when someone behind me at the coffee shop goes, can you talk a little softer? I go, get me the fuck out of this weird fucking country. I need to go back to New York. I got shited to do. And that's why I guess not a lot of great comedy specials coming out of the Netherlands. 00:51:03 Speaker 2: And again that's the train off. Very good, that's the train off. What about on a plane? 00:51:08 Speaker 3: A plane, I'm pretty I'm not loud, okay, you know, like, but listen, I have my lines too. People are playing videos with no headphones. 00:51:17 Speaker 2: It's a tough pill to swallow. 00:51:19 Speaker 3: It was great. There was There was one time on a plane where this older guy he just didn't know his headphones weren't connected. So he had his headphones, but he's playing this music full volume and I and I said, as her because you know it's not working, and it was. He was sweet about him. 00:51:34 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. 00:51:35 Speaker 3: I think I'm decent on planes, but I'm taking my shoes off. 00:51:38 Speaker 2: I take my shoes off. 00:51:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 00:51:40 Speaker 2: I feel like as long as you are a clean person who has showered within the last forty eight hours, yeah, it's okay to take your shoes off. You're on an uncomfortable thing. You've got to do everything you possibly can to find some level. 00:51:50 Speaker 3: Of You've got to turn your eye to the planes. I mean, listen, they turn us against each other. 00:51:55 Speaker 2: This is how the whole country is at this point. That got us fighting with each other than with the plane. 00:52:00 Speaker 3: My thing with planes, I think we should lie out and that's that's all. I mean. You pay a god forsaken amount of money for first class. Just I don't need it. Don't need warm nuts and a little bowl. That's not what it's for. It's simply so I can be horizontal. If they stacked us, well, they could get more people in the plane. They stack us. You know, it's a pain to get in to get out, but like stack me. You could put a TV over me or nothing. I'll just sleepy, just lie me. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: Down my ultimate dream, and it feels like, why not, let's at least give one plane a tribe where we're just absolutely stacked in there. 00:52:34 Speaker 3: If bathroom's an issue, put put it there. Put it, I open it. 00:52:38 Speaker 2: I guess the bathroom is the one. 00:52:40 Speaker 3: Put a hole. Put a hole, put my dick in. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: Provide a catheter, please. 00:52:44 Speaker 3: There's a lot of flights I'd much rather put in a catheter. Right. 00:52:47 Speaker 2: They give you the little bag to throw up in, yeah, replace that with. 00:52:51 Speaker 3: I remember when. I don't see them that much anymore, but I remember when, like as a kid, they were there. 00:52:56 Speaker 2: Oh yeah every time. 00:52:57 Speaker 3: Because I guess there was just more turbulence, it happened more often. 00:53:00 Speaker 2: I feel like turbulence has gotten out of control. Really, Oh my god. Every time I'm on a plane, I'm like, well, this is the fin I better listen to a song. I like, because I'm done. 00:53:08 Speaker 3: That's that's your fine, that's how you use. 00:53:12 Speaker 2: I'll just kind of be like, Okay, well the plane's going down, let's enjoy this. 00:53:16 Speaker 3: I think in my mind, I go, it's a shame I can't jerk off like for the final I think, honestly knowing me Let's say I was on a plane alone, and it was like appropriate because we're as I'm about to die and my death, we're thinking about, you know, don't want to make anyone uncomfortable. 00:53:35 Speaker 2: I don't want to inconvenience any God to death. 00:53:39 Speaker 3: God forbid that plane right itself, and I go, oh God, I masturbated in front of the whole plane. But knowing me, if I was on a plane alone, I was going down, I would be so crippled by the like would I be able to get it done in time? That I would die mid thinking about should I masturbates? That's how I would die. 00:54:02 Speaker 2: For at least you're distracted, you know with. 00:54:05 Speaker 3: POMPEII, where the volcano out, there's one guy, guy, Oh, there's I'm I'm again. I'm pretty sure where he's Clearly his hand is on his deck, mortifying in the ashes, mortifying because you want to know did he finish? 00:54:18 Speaker 2: Did he make it there? 00:54:20 Speaker 3: Did he finish? And I think that's what archaeologist should be looking into. Yes, because I God, you hope, so. 00:54:28 Speaker 2: We've got the DNA tests, we can figure that out. 00:54:31 Speaker 3: But you also think, like it's got to be, it's gotta be tough to like get one off, and it's like as you see lava lava. Just if you hear the screaming, you feel the heat, yeah, smoke, maybe the heat. Maybe the heat's nice. Oh interesting, Maybe it's one of those things like actually, the best way is what the laugh is coming towards you. Hopefully, Hopefully for that guy, one could only hope. 00:54:56 Speaker 2: I hope that was his last bit of enjoyment as he was absolutely can turned. 00:55:00 Speaker 3: To ask what better way? 00:55:01 Speaker 2: What else to Well, I'm want to try flossing. It's not appropriate to do. I've been I've been holding because I've been like, I can't fluster by mind, we're going to floss on camera here. I know some people have a problem with people flossing in public. I don't see the big deal as long as things aren't flying. 00:55:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, well this helps fly. The other thing you. 00:55:19 Speaker 2: Do is this great? 00:55:23 Speaker 3: Do you have these at home or do you use a I use a string. I prefer because these break pretty easily. Okay, when you do the string, do you move the string for each two? Okay? Like meat? 00:55:35 Speaker 2: Either I just use whatever? What are you come on? 00:55:38 Speaker 3: Some people, it's like a little factory line. Okay, Ah, there we go. 00:55:48 Speaker 2: Okay, I think I got the whole mouth. 00:55:50 Speaker 3: When you get a piece, do you go? Do you eat it? No? 00:55:53 Speaker 2: This is not a what are you talking about? I'm not looking for something to eat here. If I accidentally swallow, sure, go for it. 00:56:04 Speaker 3: So did the inter manfesting. And then when I'm not in the eating window, I floss and I go does that count? Oh? 00:56:08 Speaker 2: There we go? 00:56:08 Speaker 3: That count? I think that was over the five calorie. 00:56:12 Speaker 2: And you don't have an eating disorder? Okay. Now I'm gonna drink a little water. I feel so clean. Yeah, wow, I love it. And I've got to end a little bit of grape in my mouth, which is interesting. It's a pretty accurate. It's that nice Thailand Children's tilent All grape that we all love. 00:56:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm for it. Why not? 00:56:31 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think we should play a game. Great, We're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse. But first I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:56:39 Speaker 3: Seven. Okay. 00:56:40 Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want and I'll be right back. 00:56:47 Speaker 3: Great. I have a podcast called the downside where I complain about things, and I got a comedy specialis's on YouTube called Thief of Joy. It's free, it's an our six minutes and it's good. It just broke two million views, so we're really happy with it. Check out Thief of Joy. And I'm a tour all over the world, so check it out. 00:57:07 Speaker 2: Beautiful. Yeah, I've heard great things about the special. I'm excited to watch. Everybody. Get on YouTube, push the thumbs up button on there, do whatever you have to do. This is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things and then you're going to tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why. I'll tell if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers right right. This first one is from a listener named Lauren. Gift or a Curse website pop ups that ask if you want fifteen percent off, and the only other option is no thanks, I'll pay full price. 00:57:38 Speaker 3: Curse why. I hate that smarmy, that feeling of you're going to be You're putting words into my mouth. I want an option, I want no thanks, I'll pay a full price, and then fuck you. I'd not even I didn't even read what it was. And tell whoever designed this they wasted their life. That's what I need. I hate that. I hate that language thing. I hate it. No thanks, I don't want to save money that Oh my god, I see those No thanks, no thanks. I'm a mister piggy piggybank rich boy and I got all the money in the world. Oh I hate it. 00:58:15 Speaker 2: No thank you. I'm scum. Yeah, yeah, correct, curse. I mean, for so many reasons. The passive aggression here is so don't yeah, don't make me the bad guy here. Also, we don't need everything to have copywriting involved, simple yes or no. 00:58:32 Speaker 3: Who is persuaded by that? Who goes to like, well, I don't want to pay full price, okay, final filter fucking form. 00:58:41 Speaker 2: I'm not the guy who pays full price. 00:58:42 Speaker 3: And you know who it is. You know who it is. It's old people. There are certain abuses where I go this. It's not working on us. It's working on people who are old and frail and are being abused and we should be angrier about it. 00:58:54 Speaker 2: Yes, because they're not Internet natives. 00:58:56 Speaker 3: I got a spam phone call once, and you're the guy he's he said, Grandma, is that you It's me Mark, I need some money. And I was like, you are I'm not falling for this. The person who's falling for this is has dementia. 00:59:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, has something, I mean what a vial? 00:59:14 Speaker 3: And I went, I went mok, Muke said you I was gonna fuck with him and here that I can die. You're faking And he hung up the phone and I was like, I went to college for musical. 00:59:23 Speaker 2: Theater and honestly, good for him, good for him for you know calling. 00:59:26 Speaker 3: It good for him, good for him? 00:59:29 Speaker 2: All right, you've gotten one right so far. The second one is from a listener named Melinda Gift a curse Coca Cola freestyle machines. Are you familiar with these? 00:59:37 Speaker 3: I am? I am? I mean listen. I grew up definitely where they went pretty crazy with the die Coke lime cans and the die Coke lemon. I remember when those were like common. And I've been overseas in Europe. Die Coke Lime was there and it was good. I love die Coke. I just think these machines, the few times I participate in them, it just feels syrup. It feels syrup. It doesn't feel like it's great. I love that people get their options, but I would way rather have a fountain machine that gives me a solid diet coke, like just to killer diet coke then than all the options and they all suck. So I'm gonna go curse. 01:00:25 Speaker 2: The way that you and I are on the same page about this is historically it's a curse. Oh my god, these things. I mean, first of all, what a failure in engineering, this massive refrigerator size machine that serves one person at a time. The soda is not as good, all of these flavors that you try every one of them, and you're like, oh, actually I just want the regular flavor. 01:00:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just give me. 01:00:49 Speaker 2: And in an age when these regular soda fountains are becoming extinct, yes, we should be putting all of our energy and resources and getting those back into restaurants. Yes, just pulling up and getting a diet coke that is accurately mixed. 01:01:03 Speaker 3: And by the way, you know, you know they're data collecting, oh my god, aci recognition. No, but but also they're going which ooh, everyone's ordering raspberry diet coke more and more people. Now we're going to put that in a can you are literally the rats in the lab testing all the shitty mixes, and then they're going to take that data and get something else and. 01:01:29 Speaker 2: They use you. 01:01:31 Speaker 3: And it's like as opposed to, Hey, why don't you figure out what's good? And when you charge me money, you give me a good thing. That's why I paid you to figure it out. If you said, hey, free, free machine over here, we're taking some samples. We'd like to learn some stuff. Have as much as you want. Great, do not charge me and use me for data. 01:01:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're kind of unwittingly participating in a survey. 01:01:51 Speaker 3: You know there's no way they're not. 01:01:53 Speaker 2: Of course, that's why it's a computer. Wow where you found I mean you've deep, You've really uncovered something deep here. Okay, so you've gotten two right so far. Finally, this is from a listener named web gif. You a curse turning off auto capitalization on your phone? 01:02:09 Speaker 3: Turning off help me understand turning it? 01:02:14 Speaker 4: So? 01:02:15 Speaker 2: I believe? So then everything you text or write is lowercase. 01:02:19 Speaker 5: Oh oof. This is a tough one. Ultimately, I don't I would not do that. I would not do that because while there's certain contexts I think like Twitter grammar is so fascinating. I've never been great at grammar per se, but I think it's so interesting that they're like Twitter introduced like a different vibe and like I'll see like you don't YABOOKI young white? 01:02:50 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course. 01:02:51 Speaker 3: Like when I was starting Twitter, he had already mastered it and moved on and I'd see him right. I was like, you know, things I can't even compar have the way that you artistically engage with this. I don't get it, but you got We're still we gotta caps, we gotta caps. I'm gonna say I'm glad that you have the option. I guess so. I don't know if that makes it a blessing, but no, I don't. I don't want that. I wouldn't. I would never choose to have that thing. I need it. I'm starting sentences. I can tell me your tone. 01:03:27 Speaker 2: You disagree, you're saying curse. 01:03:31 Speaker 3: That it exists, or that it's a curse. 01:03:35 Speaker 2: Correct. 01:03:36 Speaker 3: Wow, you've really almost you overthought it too much. 01:03:41 Speaker 2: And I was watching you walk up to the cliffs. 01:03:43 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you have I overthought it. I said, I have to speak my truth. Yes, any day I couldn't lie. 01:03:47 Speaker 2: What a lesson for everyone to learn today. Yes, just be honest with yourself and everyone else. No, I think that to me, this is like some attempt at looking like you're very laid back and relaxed, but it's false because you had to get into all of the settings to turn that off. So every time I see that, I think about you getting clicking on settings, going into general, finding keyboard, turning this off. That's not laid back. That's not a relaxed vibe. That's someone who's overthinking how they're seen. And also this whole Twitter thing, you know, I feel like I get your point there, Like I think we kind of did away with punctuation on Twitter. I think that's as far as we need to go. 01:04:22 Speaker 3: I agree. 01:04:23 Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm texting using my computer, sure, lowercase it's more like texting or like g chat, the golden days of g Chat. But if I'm on my phone, you're going to see a capitalized letter. Yeah. 01:04:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see tweets as like poetry. Sure, but we need that, We need a baseline to communicate with information that's important. 01:04:41 Speaker 2: Yes, And on the opposite end of that is the and I think this trend is finally dying. Is musicians doing all caps song titles. I think we're done with that. That trend has run its course. Yeah you see that now and you're like, oh, you've You're not Beyonce. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Let's let's just get back to normal normal capitalization. I so much thinking about capitalizing. Just do it the regular way. Whatever. Well, you won the game. That's an amazing, very short list of people. Okay, now we need to answer a listener question people are writing into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com or sending voice notes. If you send a voice note, it needs to be in a quiet place and sixty seconds long. Follow rules. Okay, let's answer a question. 01:05:25 Speaker 4: Hi, Bridger and friends. I have a question for how you would react in a certain situation. So yesterday I was at the grocery store, a very large grocery store. I live in the same city that I grew up in, and I happened to see not one, but two people that I knew from growing up. The first person was someone from middle school. Her kids were yelling at her, and I acted like I didn't see her, which felt like the right thing to do in that second because she seemed really stressed out. But then the second person I saw, I knew him in high school. He was over by the yogurts and I was trying to get a lot of faya with honey and I didn't really want him to comment on how many faye's with honey I was getting. I pretended like I didn't see him. Then I saw him by the half and half. Then I saw him by the eggs, and we were sort of on the same route around the store, and I kept ignoring him. I kept pretending like I didn't see him. This was my best friend's next door neighbor. I borrowed a tenacious d VHS from him that he had taped off of HBO and never returned it. I knew this person well, and I pretended like I didn't see him, and honestly, he didn't say hi either, And I. 01:06:35 Speaker 3: Feel really weird about it. 01:06:37 Speaker 4: How do you handle bumping into someone from your deep past that you don't want to talk to? And now it's like, oh do we do? I just not know him now when I see him out in the world, we just ignore each other. 01:06:50 Speaker 3: I don't know. 01:06:51 Speaker 4: It feels weird, Okay, I love you, Bye. 01:06:54 Speaker 3: Okay. 01:06:55 Speaker 2: I mean this feels like a fi A with honey add like a secret this is the yogurt. 01:07:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's a brand f A g E. 01:07:05 Speaker 2: It's like a white lid, I think, so I never had I think I see it and I'm not a honey person, so I wouldn't eat that. Sure, So that's my The alarm bells are going off. Is this part of them FI a marketing team? 01:07:15 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:07:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but we have to put that aside. This is a This is a situation when you go to your hometown and you go to the grocery store. It is kind of like going to a haunted house because you do not know who's going to be around the corner. How do you feel about the situation. 01:07:29 Speaker 3: I think that the promise like you you, Silence is always weird. Silence is weird. You you You're brain's pinging. You know their brain's pinging. You got to do something. And the bottom line is like, if you're never gonna you're not gonna be there for another year or whatever, then fine, have an awkward moment you leave. If you're gonna be there and see them multiple times, you got and I think you gotta lean towards you got to give a nod. You're risking the conversation. You're risking the conversation, and you could have an escape plan. Oh, the yogurt's gonna go back quick, I gotta check out. But gradually, if you are, if you slightly rude enough, you can you can get it to a nod. I feel this with Ubers. I feel like it feels it feels very classes. It's hard to talk about because you sound like an ass role, but like sometimes you're in a forty minute drive and you go work. You got shit, you gotta get done. I'm editing that comedy special still and the gradual tapering off of answers to yes, And that's that's the road you gotta take. And ultimately, I don't think you're ever gonna get to a point where you never say anything, but you just establish it's a nod, right not and leave right not and leave well. 01:08:48 Speaker 2: And I feel like she's making a big assumption here that he wasn't ignoring her. Yeah, maybe she's the ignored. 01:08:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:08:55 Speaker 2: Also, how big is this dairy section? If yogurt half and half and some other dairy products. 01:09:01 Speaker 3: A lot of things to be next to I can't believe you stayed next to them that whole time. Even if it was a stranger, I'd be like, what. 01:09:07 Speaker 2: Do Yeah, of course you'll have to say something wow, yeah, because it has an outank. 01:09:11 Speaker 3: God for cows something something three times? 01:09:14 Speaker 2: Is she afraid that she's gonna want the VHS back? How important is the VHS? 01:09:19 Speaker 3: I I did want someone who let me a UCB Season one box set the uc before and like twelve years later I happened to see them as a thing. And then after that they texted me and listen, this is on me. I didn't give it back and he chose their like, hey you still got that? 01:09:39 Speaker 2: Whoa? 01:09:39 Speaker 3: And I I was like, brother, I will buy it off right now. I will. But it was like it was yeah, so some people still but are recording over a thing. 01:09:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you can find that at a good will. 01:09:55 Speaker 3: But it's in your head. Say oh you see them go oh my god, I just remembered. Oh I'm not sure where it is. Do you want to buy it for you? 01:10:05 Speaker 2: I'm sorry the person after twelve years. If you lend somebody something and don't ask for it after two years, it now belongs to them yes, give me a break. 01:10:14 Speaker 3: My only thought is that maybe he does want it, because if I'm at a grocery store and it's a woman, I don't want to speak to her. I don't know if I happen by accident to follow her two different places. I'm usually I'm going I'm gonna go get my crackers now because I'm scary. I'm feeling scary. I'm feeling scary in the cold of the milk the milk aisle. So maybe he's thinking, maybe he's just like you gonna say something if you hear him humming and it's like a tenacious. 01:10:44 Speaker 2: Oh now there's a big hat way to song. You got to take the bait on that situation. It's like, Okay, I'm going home now, I will get the VHS. It's an mom's attic. 01:10:54 Speaker 3: But you want to establish nods. I have a lot of people where like you've just established you nod if you're if you in the neighborhood with someone and you really don't want to be the friend, but you know there, you know them. 01:11:04 Speaker 2: You have to acknowledge another human beings exists. Come on common decency. Yeah, and this woman has not. You know she hasn't practiced any of that. In the grocery store, she's ignored two dear friends. 01:11:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, what what do you We can't talk to someone at the grocery store. You're busy. 01:11:19 Speaker 2: What's going on? She's so focused on the yogurt. 01:11:21 Speaker 3: I'm listening. I'm more like a podcast. I'm listening to things. And so it's just like, oh, Ice, and I wish I had bigger headphones. That's people don't respect to your pod, right, they don't. 01:11:31 Speaker 2: They don't care what's going on. 01:11:32 Speaker 3: Then I will try to This is how I like, click it and go hi. And I'm like, I need suck. I need a helmet. I need a helmet. 01:11:43 Speaker 2: I do a before taking it out, I do even if I heard what they said, I'm sorry, what did you say? Then I take it out. Then it's it's crystal clear that there is audio going into my ears. There's something plugging my ear, and now you've ruined my day. 01:11:56 Speaker 3: Uh huh uh huh. 01:11:57 Speaker 2: So maybe if she's so worried, get some giant headphones. 01:12:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, put on a pair of sunglasses so theyhones. 01:12:06 Speaker 2: Well, we answered the question perfectly. I mean, if you can't complain. 01:12:09 Speaker 3: You can't complain. You'll get there, you got to, You'll get the nod. You risk a small conversation, but it sounds like you got the skills to be rude enough to curb that conversation. 01:12:21 Speaker 2: Well, I've got this beautiful croissant to finish, and I'll be able to floss it all out of my teeth, which is amazing. Of course, I'm want to put this at least one bag of these in my car. What a great thing to happen. 01:12:31 Speaker 3: Now, I got them in every drawer of my house. 01:12:33 Speaker 2: This is what I am with gum. Now you'll gum in the bag, gum in the car. You never know where you're gonna need it. So it's what a wonderful gift, my pleasure. Thank you for being here, Thank you for having me listener. The podcast is over. Eventually the audio will stop, and hopefully you'll find something exciting to do, or maybe you'll listen to another episode. Maybe you'll write a threatening letter to someone I don't know, find something to do with your day. Goodbye, I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts line? Why did you hear? Gonta man? 01:13:36 Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? 01:13:39 Speaker 2: But you're a guest to me. 01:13:43 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty And I said. 01:13:49 Speaker 2: No guests. 01:13:50 Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough and I'm already too much stuff. 01:13:57 Speaker 2: So how did your dad to surbey? 01:14:00 Speaker 1: Hey me 01:14:03 Speaker 3: Boo