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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes

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Speaker 1: you deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and culture.

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Speaker 2: Start with headline news and then journey.

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Speaker 1: To deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are

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Speaker 1: presented in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally.

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Speaker 2: That dude not too I.

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Speaker 1: Know I'm looking like Terrell Owens right now? Oh man,

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Speaker 1: who else I look like?

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Speaker 2: From the old school Teddy Pentagrass or something right now?

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Speaker 1: Yo, there is a good reason why I've went Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you that in just a second. But

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Speaker 1: I'm still feeling all right, I'm not feeling amazing today.

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Speaker 1: Can't lie to you because boy, when I tell you why,

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Speaker 1: y'all gonna say, oh damn Seal you got a football

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Speaker 1: player's mentality, you just fight through anything.

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Speaker 2: And yes I do.

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Speaker 1: But let's get the show started off with what's up

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Speaker 1: with that dude? Well, yesterday we had Memorial Day, so

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Speaker 1: decided to do something for the foundation.

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Speaker 2: Slash the family and have.

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Speaker 1: A pickleball pool party and invite some kids over, buy

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Speaker 1: here while we order up the dominoes. Dass right twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, you come to our Memorial Day party, it

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Speaker 1: ain't no barbecue, strictly dominoes on that pre ordered easy

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Speaker 1: Grandma is turning over in her grave right now because

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Speaker 1: that lady for Memorial Day. I think she will start

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Speaker 1: getting the meat seasoned around Valentine's Day and be in

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: Part of me is sad because those traditions feel lost

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Speaker 1: in my family, not so certain yours. But as I

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Speaker 1: They may infuse it in the culture, but to get

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Speaker 1: So I'm a little guilty right now because I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm over here slipping.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you why I'm wearing these glasses

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Speaker 2: I hate to tell.

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Speaker 1: Y'all all my business, so I'm just gonna tell y'all

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Speaker 2: I have pink eye. Yes, I have pink eye.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, if I would have lift these glasses

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Speaker 1: part last night, just yesterday was so weird and random.

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Speaker 2: Well, it finally caught up with me last night. I

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Speaker 1: Why the hell I got some of me eyeboogers. I know,

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Speaker 1: I washed my face. I ain't got a pretty enough

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Speaker 2: So I'm right here for y'all.

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Speaker 1: Right now, all right, since I can talk, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about Kendrick Perkins and his hot take. One thing I

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Speaker 1: used to hate when I worked in major medias. You'll

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Speaker 1: He said that the Celtics not winning the championship this

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Speaker 1: season will be the end of the Tatum Brown duo.

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Speaker 1: I remind you that the leader of that duo is

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, my son's favorite player. Seems like all the

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Speaker 1: you had John Moran, you missed out with your gun plays.

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Speaker 2: So the kids are switching over from Steph Kurky.

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Speaker 1: They know he's getting a little old and he ain't

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Speaker 1: they look at Jason Tatum, they're like, whoa, that's a

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Speaker 2: He's only twenty five years young.

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Speaker 1: And the magic age and the NBA for winning your

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Speaker 2: So to me, it's a rash reaction.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of fast to say that Jason Tatum and

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Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown must be broken up all ready.

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Speaker 2: But let's get into the story.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's that they won't be teammates again unless they

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Speaker 1: And he ain't cared about what they did in that

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Speaker 1: Game seven that we saw them get beat up and

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Speaker 1: the results of that if it's not a championship.

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Speaker 1: If Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum don't get to the

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Speaker 1: be the last time we will see those guys together.

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Speaker 2: I don't give a damn what they say. What does

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Speaker 1: I forget it, perk out, and now he said carry on,

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Speaker 1: carry on. That's right, all right? So that is a

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Speaker 1: hot take. Interesting, Well, let's see how hot it is. Well,

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Speaker 1: Tatum ain't going nowhere. You already know that, because he's

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. You are not giving away the center piece

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Jaylen Brown. Is he going somewhere?

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Speaker 1: There's been some conversations, some rumblins that he could be

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Speaker 1: on the move this summer due for an extension. But

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Speaker 1: the guard would get paid more if he stayed with Boston.

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Speaker 2: See how they rigged the game right there.

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Speaker 1: They rigged your loyalty basically by saying we'll pay you

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Speaker 1: more you stay still, in part because they don't want

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Speaker 1: you're looking like, what's gonna happen with Jaylen Brown? Brown

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Speaker 2: Shiver anywhere else?

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Speaker 1: He goes four years, one hundred and eighty five million

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Speaker 1: the logical math, not just the math by addition, yeah, logically,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like he gonna stay right there, stays stills

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Speaker 1: too much money to leave. So while Perk certainly has

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Speaker 1: a point about Brown and Tatum failing to finally bring

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Speaker 1: enough where that's okay you can't look past her success,

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Speaker 1: but you also can't say that this team can get

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Speaker 2: So what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: The only way that you can see this happening Tatum

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Speaker 2: A free agent.

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Speaker 1: And that's when that's twenty twenty four for my man,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. All right, so now they're reporting it's a

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Speaker 1: the outfit, to be the man to be the number

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Speaker 2: And when is good good enough? Right?

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Speaker 1: Like y'all damn good team. But I guess when then

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Speaker 1: it all ain't good enough either. Greatness is not good

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Speaker 1: enough either. Look, Nick Nurse just got a new job, Boonholzer.

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Speaker 1: Those guys have won championships recently, including everybody in the

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Speaker 1: last eight years, but Steve Kerk has lost their job

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Speaker 1: winning the championship. So the chase the championship is to

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Speaker 2: Even if it's that close, it still should be rewarded.

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Speaker 1: Thanking you for your viewership on Brings TV and Reach TV,

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Speaker 1: and your membership in the Wally's World on YouTube where

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Speaker 1: someone's gonna win this on Friday in our swag away.

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Speaker 2: We gonna give this up swag away.

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Speaker 1: That's right, a limited edition Dallas Cowboys practice intramural. What

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Speaker 2: Award jersey from ourselves?

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Speaker 1: Wilely in his one year at the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones says this before Bill parcels justice before So don't

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Speaker 2: It's a lot more than that.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about something right now, some friendly

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Speaker 1: got Sam Ponder and her support for fair nurse and

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Speaker 1: women's sports being called plane old bigotry. All right, get

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Speaker 1: the story out there so we know who Sam Ponder is.

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Speaker 1: And she came under fire as her support for keeping

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Speaker 1: women's sports fair and equal was the subject of an

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Speaker 1: Ponder and fellow ESPN colleagues say still, oh, we know

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Speaker 1: where we're going. If they bring savdy to it, you

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Speaker 1: say in the Matrix, have voiced their support for Riley Gaines,

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Speaker 1: who has taken the ranks to lead the calls for

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Speaker 1: Y'all caught that the way you were born is how

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Speaker 2: This one, all right.

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Speaker 1: Gains has been at the forefront since she tied with

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Speaker 1: Leah Thomas in the NCAA Championship in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: You guys know that story.

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Speaker 1: So PUNDA spoke about the issue again after Gages tweeted

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Speaker 1: we're now Hall of famers necessarily, but if you're the

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Speaker 1: alum of a team, you're called a legends. So last

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Speaker 1: year I went out for the Chargers and walked out

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Speaker 1: on the field and they announced us the Chargers Legends.

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Speaker 2: I was just looking around, like when did we walk out?

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Speaker 2: It was hilarious. LT LT go out there, Gates, go

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Speaker 2: out there. I'll stay back here right now. You know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? All right, just get into the story.

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Speaker 1: When Mike Florio calls out NFL dot Com for falsely

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Speaker 1: credited and rappaport on this.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy G scoop ooh.

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Speaker 1: Floria reported that Jimmy G's contract with Vegas Raiders had

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Speaker 1: to be dramatically reworked because the veteran quarterback pro poorly

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Speaker 1: failed his physical with his new team. So the rework

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Speaker 1: contract includes a waiver, which, according to Florio, had to

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Speaker 1: be included otherwise Jimmy G would not have passed the

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Speaker 1: team's physical.

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Speaker 2: H y'all caught that.

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Speaker 1: Basically, they're like, yeah, you can pass his physical, but

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Speaker 1: we're still watching that foot, and that foot can mess

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Speaker 1: all this stuff up, don't lie. So because of a

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Speaker 1: pre existing medical and middle to new form and a

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Speaker 1: fractural the base of the second meta tarsal and the

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Speaker 1: player's left foot, basically his foot is messed up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his foot messed up, and.

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Speaker 1: At the club would not enter into an NFL player

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Speaker 1: contract with player the waiver red.

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Speaker 2: That line is important. More on that to follow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I actually broke my foot out of Jones fracture,

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Speaker 1: So you know mine's were much simpler than yours. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: g just side of my foot. Why six weeks came back,

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Speaker 1: only needed two. All right, So let's get into this.

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Speaker 1: This is a pretty big deal because us no one

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Speaker 1: would expect that the fellow NFL reporters who either confirmed

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Speaker 1: or aggregated the news would credit Florial right, Oh well,

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Speaker 1: not quite around the NFL, which is the league's digital

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Speaker 1: media hub, y'all know that show credit is on inside

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Speaker 1: the NFL networks in rappaport for breaking the news. I

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Speaker 1: always watch breaking news and this is Adam Schefter or

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Speaker 1: in rapport, and I'll always be like, man, I'll take

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Speaker 1: credit for all that if I were them, because who's

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Speaker 1: watching both networks to know who said what like at

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Speaker 1: what time. So I always thought this would be a

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Speaker 1: bigger issue earlier than it is right now. So now

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Speaker 1: it's in the news, Let's watch how they beefit out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So the article links the word reported to Rappaport's tweet,

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Speaker 1: which shows the clause on an adjusted contract for Jimmy

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Speaker 1: g Ooh, they going far so now they're not just

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Speaker 1: saying he said it, or they're saying it, that's attaching

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Speaker 1: it to written.

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Speaker 2: That ain't the smart move.

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Speaker 1: The problem his tweet is quoting Pro Football Talks tweet.

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Speaker 1: You got a Rappaport quoting the tweet from Mike Florio.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh, y'all got caught. So Florio he went to

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Speaker 1: his Twitter account.

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Speaker 2: You know that little dude will.

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Speaker 1: Others can report the transactions that are going to be

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Speaker 1: announced anyway, often within minutes. Our goal will always be

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Speaker 1: to find the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 2: Ah, look at him, he jabbing. He see that opening

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: So he just gonna punch integrity over here, authenticity over

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Speaker 1: here now. A Twitter user brought it to Florio's attention

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Speaker 1: that Rappaport was being credited for breaking the news and

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Speaker 1: not himself.

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Speaker 2: And remember the NFL network is.

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Speaker 1: Owned by the NFL, so Florio took issue with not

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Speaker 1: being properly accredited.

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Speaker 2: I try not to let this crap bother me anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well, try harder, because it doesn't look like you're trying

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Speaker 1: to hard right now, because it will never stop happening. Wow,

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Speaker 1: but we dug up the only real news that anyone

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Speaker 1: has reported this weekend, a significant story all parties involved

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Speaker 1: had hidden for weeks, and NFL dot com pretends the

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Speaker 1: god I broke it, damn last layer of this is.

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Speaker 1: Other Twitter users pointed out a mistake in Florio's tweet,

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Speaker 1: and some even said he was not even the first

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Speaker 1: to report the news either.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this? I tell you what

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Speaker 2: I make of this right now.

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Speaker 1: I make of this a funnel, And y'all know how

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Speaker 1: funnel looks, right, they're all going to the same place,

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Speaker 1: but then trying to make this thing seem like it's

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Speaker 1: only coming to them, only coming from them.

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Speaker 2: But they're all going to the same place.

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Speaker 1: Because you gotta think, if you got an insider on

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Speaker 1: any organization, within any of the borders of an organization,

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Speaker 1: let's just say that guy might have loose lips, and

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Speaker 1: he may tell you, But why are you in priority

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Speaker 1: to telling somebody else? First thing you would say is relationship? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the only thing that's gonna trump the relationship in

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Speaker 1: this situation is the information right, So if the information

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Speaker 1: you want out, that's why you start a relationship with

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Speaker 1: a reporter. You don't want information out, that's just your boy.

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Speaker 1: But I'm never gonna give you anything. So once I

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Speaker 1: give it to one, what's stopping me if I really

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Speaker 1: just want this out to not take it to them

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Speaker 1: as well? Right, it's called a runner. Loose lips sink ships.

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Speaker 1: So should you be offended? Professionally, I can see why

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Speaker 1: you're offended because obviously this is in part how they

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Speaker 1: make their name, how they make their dough Because if

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Speaker 1: you're the ones breaking inside information, if you're the one

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Speaker 1: going the next layer deeper, oh, you're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: reputation for doing your job better. So I get that part,

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Speaker 1: but it also hits you in the ego too, like

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Speaker 1: damn dog, like I did that work. I'm the one

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Speaker 1: that took the risk that potentially this story could just

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Speaker 1: blow up in my face, and you gonna get some

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Speaker 1: of the credit. Like if you're not gonna take the risks,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't get downe of the reward, simple as that.

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Speaker 1: So are we gonna expect the apology? Because do not

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Speaker 1: act like this just happened by accident. Nothing worse than

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Speaker 1: when you catch somebody and they act like, oh my bad,

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Speaker 1: I ain't even know. Dog, Come on, man, were getting

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Speaker 1: paid to do this? Now you don't know? And how

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Speaker 1: did you even get the information? Did you get it

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Speaker 1: before me? Why didn't you put it out before me?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: You got it after me? So you got it after me?

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Speaker 1: Why do you want credit for it? One way or

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Speaker 1: the other. You're gonna have to announce what your true

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Speaker 1: intentions are. So I look at this situation for what

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Speaker 1: it is. Mike Florio, he says a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 1: some of it objective, a lot of it is his

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Speaker 1: own opinion, and sometimes you have to figure out which

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Speaker 1: one is more in balance, right, because sometimes it's an

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Speaker 1: article you're like, oh wow, that's just Florio talking about

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Speaker 1: what he feels, and sometimes it is just pertinent information,

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Speaker 1: objective and all. So in this situation, I don't expect

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Speaker 1: any apology because I don't think anybody gonna kick up.

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Speaker 2: Enough dust for this to become a bigger story.

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Speaker 1: That said, thought it was interesting that these guys out

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Speaker 1: there all trying to act like they are ones that's

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Speaker 1: first in line, when they're all just in the same line,

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Speaker 1: hoping that they're first. All right, ch'alla, you know we

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Speaker 1: finished this show with what a wilyism. Adversity calls some

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Speaker 1: men to break and others to break records. Yes, adversity

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Speaker 1: causes some men to break and others to break records. Man,

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Speaker 1: whoa this world without adversity? It'd be smooth selling, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 1: And I swear I raise my hand every day make

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Speaker 1: it easier on my God, I'm tied, boss, I've been

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Speaker 1: through too much. But at the same time, it just

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Speaker 1: makes you a better person. It rounds out your integrity

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Speaker 1: and your character. Like, no matter what you're going through,

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Speaker 1: no matter what your opinion is on something, for it

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Speaker 1: to be challenged is a beautiful thing. We were talking

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Speaker 1: earlier about the transgender conversation. The challenge in that conversation

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Speaker 1: needs to be heard. The opposing side needs to be

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Speaker 1: heard so we could come to a better informed decision.

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Speaker 1: But the silence the other side just to smooth the

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Speaker 1: pavement to say.

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Speaker 2: My side win, my side rules is not.

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Speaker 1: A full conversation. It's not a true dialogue. Therefore you're

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Speaker 1: not getting the best version with the intelligence. So I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that there is adversity. The mastermind of

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Speaker 1: this world was basically like, now you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: go through some stuff to prove that you really wanted

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Speaker 1: it and to prove to you how valuable it was

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Speaker 1: worth attaining.

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Speaker 2: So love it for what it is, even though I

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Speaker 2: hate adversity.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, Oh just give it to me easy, right,

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Speaker 1: who wants to fight for their food?

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Speaker 2: Just give it to me, Just serve it to me, right.

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Speaker 1: So remember, no matter what you're going through, adversity causes

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Speaker 1: some men.

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Speaker 2: To break others to break records. All right, y'all, that'll

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: For more to It, check the show notes for all

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Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today. Want to keep

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Speaker 1: the conversation going, Let's talk. Find me on all socials

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Speaker 1: Patrick Production, That Dude Entertainment and Workhouse Media. Show is

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Speaker 1: executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcell's Whally, Paul Anderson, and

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