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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This

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Speaker 1: is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And today

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Speaker 1: we're doing a movie that I'm so excited for. I've

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Speaker 1: had it on the list for a while, mainly because

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Speaker 1: it has one of my all time favorite nineteen fifties

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of surrounded by them right now. I've got

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Speaker 1: a They Conquered the World poster, the Attack of the

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Speaker 1: Crab Monsters poster. But this movie, I'd say the poster

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Speaker 1: is the best of them all. It is a nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty eight film called The Brain Eaters. Yes, and if

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen the poster for this, look it up,

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Speaker 1: you know, go to any go to the IMDb page

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Speaker 1: for it, look it up on Wikipedia, just do an

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Speaker 1: image search. You'll see this fabulous poster. You've probably seen

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Speaker 1: it before, and it is just gorgeous. It's this gigantic

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Speaker 1: face like a lady's head, her eyes wide open and

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Speaker 1: a kind of desperate anguish but instead of regular eyes,

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Speaker 1: they're just pure yellow, these yellow voids. And then she's

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Speaker 1: like vampires are often depicted in color films of the time.

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Speaker 1: But then also her skull is cracked open to reveal

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Speaker 1: air shafts of light or power or something shooting out

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Speaker 1: of the brain. And then it has the title and

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Speaker 1: yellow the brain eaters. It shows people scattering below the

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Speaker 1: face as if they're they're fleeing in terror from this

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Speaker 1: yellow eyed vampire lady, and it says crawling, slimy things,

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Speaker 1: terror bent means the brain meeters. Maybe they couldn't put

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Speaker 1: hell on the posters, so they're like, I still like

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Speaker 1: the bent part. Can we just let's go with Bent? Yeah? Exactly. So, Rob,

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Speaker 1: can you describe what movie you would think you were

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Speaker 1: about to see based on the title of this movie

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Speaker 1: and the poster alone? Okay, so yeah, having having looked

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Speaker 1: at this poster over the years and uh, and never

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Speaker 1: it's about a lady who gets like an earth woman

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Speaker 1: power so that there's like you know, mind blast firing

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Speaker 1: out of her brain. Maybe her brain is exposed, maybe not,

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Speaker 1: but then she has this vampire thirst for for human

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Speaker 1: neural juices or something, um vinyl fluid. Yeah. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: this hunger. She's just ah. And as we see in

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Speaker 1: the general public, they're having to to swoop in to

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Speaker 1: try and stop her. Unfortunately, every single bit of that

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Speaker 1: is entirely misleading. The lady on the poster does not

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Speaker 1: appear in the film, and the movie The Brain Eaters

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Speaker 1: has no brain eating in it, right, no brains. So

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Speaker 1: to watch the brains get eaten, don't worry. There's there's

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Speaker 1: no brains in this picture. They're not really I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're exposed brains either. No. I mean the closest

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Speaker 1: thing is this movie does feature alien parasites that like

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Speaker 1: as close as you can get. Yeah, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like if if they'd called the movie The Social Network

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Speaker 1: the Brain Eaters, it would be just as accurate. Like, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: technically it's about eating brains, but but not in a

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This is actually rather independent production. But

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Speaker 1: So I found the answer to this question in an

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Speaker 1: And in this interview Ed Nelson explains in his own words,

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Speaker 1: he says, The brain Eaters was originally not called The

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Speaker 1: of The brain Eaters was Attack of the Blood Leeches.

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Speaker 1: That was the title Roger loved, so he took the

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Speaker 1: of the Giant Leeches. By the way, that one was

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Speaker 1: felt something legitimately creepy about that film. I can't remember,

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Speaker 1: Killer Shrews. That's the one Killer Shrews. Is whether then

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Speaker 1: a giant leech. Well, anyway, while the movie itself its

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the first time someone took a Roger

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Speaker 1: I love that style. I wish that style of movie

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Speaker 1: Of course, like Attack of the Crab, Monsters, and and

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Speaker 1: half the time. Yeah, And or you know, maybe he

426
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: just he felt compelled to grow one and it just

427
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: wasn't very good at it. I mean, I can I

428
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: can understand that, I can, I can sympathize with that,

429
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: but it is um it is. It is a faint

430
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: ghost of a mustache. Well, I think it's one of

431
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: those that doesn't he decided not to let it cover

432
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: the entire upper lip. It's like one of those little

433
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of sculpted, thin ones. But it like follows the

434
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: what's the name of the little indentation on your upper lip,

435
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: what's that called the lip dip? It follows the little

436
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: edges of the lip dip, and then it goes along

437
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: the top of the upper lip just a little bit.

438
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: But it's it's tiny. I'll tell you what he could be.

439
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: It could be that this is a style of mustache

440
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: that he always wore, and as he grew older, it

441
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: was just harder for it to be that that that

442
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: you know well defined, because I think I've I've seen

443
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: interviews with John John Waters where he says much the

444
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: same thing. It's like, you know, the pencil than mustache

445
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: is my thing. But the older I get, the more

446
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: work it takes to to make sure that it's visible.

447
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: I can understand that. All right. Um. We also have

448
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: Joanna Lee in this, an actor who lived through two

449
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: thousand and three, playing Alice Summers. I don't remember which

450
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: character this is oh, Alice Summers. She well, so I

451
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: think she works in the mayor's office at the beginning

452
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: of the movie. But then she becomes uh Paul Kettering's

453
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: research assistant, and they like figure out the leeches together,

454
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: and then they fall in love, and then she is

455
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: and then she is zombified by the leeches. And then

456
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: at the end she's the one saying like, come come

457
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: with me, we can be happy forever living under alien tyranny.

458
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, Well, she's as close to the

459
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: lady on the poster as we get then, I mean,

460
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: but she doesn't look like her true true But a

461
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: lot of people might remember her from a lesser but

462
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: more famous picture she was in. She played the alien

463
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: Tanna in Plan nine from Outer Space Edwoods nineteen seven Masterpiece.

464
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, were you hesitating on the word masterpiece? And

465
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why you said that's a lesser film. Well,

466
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: it depends how you're judging, It depends what your criteria is.

467
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: But certainly, um a film that sticks with you. So

468
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: she's in that film. She's one of the two aliens.

469
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: I mainly remember her male counterpart because he's the one,

470
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: isn't he That's like you're stupid alive, stupid stupid. Yeah,

471
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: they're the two main alien. Yeah, he's like your stupid

472
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: Earth minds, stupid stupid. We also have Jodie Fair in this,

473
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: playing a Laine Cameron born four um. Active during the

474
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: late fifties and early sixties, she was mostly in a

475
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: bunch of sort of youth panic movies of that time period.

476
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: It seems like titles like High School Confidential, Hot Rod Gang,

477
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: Ghost of Dragstrip, Hollow Girls, Town Sex, Kittens Go to College,

478
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: and then ultimately some TV Westerns. Yea, everything comes back

479
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: to Westerns. Everybody we look at in these fifties drive

480
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: in movies, it seems like did mostly Westerns. Yeah, and

481
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, the same can be said for the next

482
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: name we want to talk about, Leonard Nimoy. Um wait,

483
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: did you mean the same cannot be said? Or can?

484
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: Candy said? Yes? Like, um, you know sixty six is

485
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: when Star Trek came out and uh, Nimoy been acting

486
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: for you know, years and years prior to that, and

487
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: a lot of it was Westerns. Somehow, I've never seen

488
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: any of the is. But yes, Leonard Neimo is in this.

489
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: It's a small role. He doesn't show up until the

490
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: end of the movie, and so you can even going

491
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: into it knowing that he's going to be there. At

492
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: some point, you kind of forget about it until he

493
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: appears at the end in a bank of fog, dressed

494
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: as like gandal for his God or something, uh, talking

495
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: about how we will force mankind to live in Utopia. Yeah.

496
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: So A. Zanimo was born in died is most mostly

497
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: famous and remembered for playing Spock and on the original

498
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: Star Trek and various Star Trek films and Star Trek

499
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Um related things later on. Uh, you know, legendary role,

500
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: iconic role, will always be remembered for that. But uh,

501
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: this at this point, I think this was his twentie

502
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: film and TV credit. Uh so this is about like

503
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: eight years into him actually appearing on screens of one

504
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: sort or the other. He'd eventually go on to do

505
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: Twilight Zone and Outer Limits in sixty six once more

506
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: once again Star Trek starts up. Um. But you know

507
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: he wanted to do other non Star Trek things as well.

508
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: He was in the Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I

509
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: love that movie and he's great in it. It's still

510
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: on my list to see. I haven't watched that one yet. Yeah,

511
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: I think you'll love it. Man. Uh. He later had

512
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: had rolls in let's say, Night Gallery, the nineties Outer

513
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: Limits series, which I don't think I've seen his episode yet.

514
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: Um he Uh. He was in the nineties seven TV

515
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: miniseries David, in which this is like a biblical movie,

516
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: in which he plays Samuel. Uh. This is not the

517
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: one where George Eastman shows up his Goliath, but it

518
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: does have Frank o'neiro as Nathan, so it has at

519
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: least you know, one euro actor in there. Wow. You

520
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: know so? Another thing uh, Ed Nelson reveals in that

521
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: interview from the Tom Weaver book is that he was

522
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: supposed to pay Leonard Nimoy forty five dollars to be

523
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: in this movie, but he never gave him his money. Also,

524
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: his name is misspelled in the credits in E M

525
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: O Y for some reason. Wow. So what do you say? Yes,

526
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: never gave it to him. I wondered they should have.

527
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: He should have done, you know, later on Nemod in

528
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Search of He should have done an episode in Search

529
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: of the Forts. That that addoes me. Where is my

530
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: brain eater's money? All right, we have one more name

531
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: to mention here because it's kind of a fun, weird

532
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: uncredited cameo. I mean, it went't a cameo at the time. Uh,

533
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: it was just this individual's first appearance in anything. But

534
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: we have Hampton Fancier showing up. Is he playing the

535
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of elfin looking guy who keeps like carrying around

536
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: globes and then attacking people. I don't think he is

537
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: the main globe holder if he is the thinner, handsomer

538
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: of the uh the troubled, brainwashed youths that we see.

539
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: So he's the really young one with kind of a

540
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: kind of a lean and hungry look to him. Well,

541
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: I guess I would say that's the main one. I

542
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: guess that's kind of the one. I meant, which other one,

543
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: the one who crawls up to the window and sticks Okay, yeah,

544
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: that's him. Okay. So um Vancher was born in and

545
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: I believe it's still still very much around. It has

546
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: actually been active in uh in fairly recent years. Uh.

547
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: This was his first screen role as an uncredited quote

548
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: unquote zombie, though I don't think he's really a zombie,

549
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: but that's what's listed on the IMDb there. This movie

550
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: is just full of like sketchy guys who are carrying

551
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: globes around and doing what the aliens say. I guess

552
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: because they've got they've got tinglers on them. It's kind

553
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: of the youth danger element of this picture, right, Yeah. Yeah,

554
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think he has any lines

555
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: in this, but he's you know, he has a certain

556
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: screen presence. Uh he would. He would have been I

557
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: think twenty years old at the time or around that.

558
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: He went into act in a lot of stuff, mostly

559
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: TV through the sixties and seventies. He was at one

560
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: point married to Sue Lyon, who played Lolita in Stanley

561
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Kubrick's adaptation of that novel. But he's most notable for

562
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: his work on the screenplay for Ridley Scott's nineteen eight

563
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: two classic Blade Runner. Oh Wow. Yeah. This was of

564
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: course a loose adaptation of Philip K. Dix do Android's

565
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Dream of Electric Sheep. I did not know that. He

566
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: also worked on the screenplay for Blade Runner eighteen, as

567
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: well as some of the related like shorter film projects

568
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: that were kind of attached and revolving around that picture,

569
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: like like Moons. He didn't do a ton else um

570
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: in terms of writing and directing. He adapted the screenplay

571
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: for nine the Mighty Quinn, starring Denzel Washington. Oh, it's

572
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: been a long time since I saw that, but I

573
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: remember liking it. It's kind of a noir detective movie. Yeah, yeah,

574
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: very much so. Uh. And he also directed and wrote

575
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the screenplay for n the Minus Man Um. This was

576
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: adapted from a novel by Lou McCreary. Are you familiar

577
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: with this picture, Joe, I know of it, but I've

578
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: never seen it. I I watched it, I guess when

579
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: it came out, and I remember really liking it, and

580
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: I read the book as well, which was was pretty good,

581
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: as I recall. But yeah, it's an indie serial killer

582
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: flick with a really great cast, Owen Wilson in the

583
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: lead as the sort of uh, you know, mild mannered,

584
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: quaint serial murderer who's I've seen him compared to both Chancey,

585
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner and uh and of course Norman Bates. Oh okay,

586
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: but that film also stars Janine Garofalo, Brian Cox, Mercedes Rule,

587
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Cox, I'm there. Yeah. But also, just

588
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: just to be on the safe side, they throw in

589
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Dwight yoakum um, John Carroll Lynch, Larry Miller is in it,

590
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: and I think Cheryl Crowe is actually in it as well.

591
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a it's a it's an interesting cast

592
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: and yeah, Brian Cox is great and everybody's great. All

593
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: the names you just mentioned get murdered. I don't think,

594
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't remember how many people actually get murdered.

595
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: A lot of it is um, it's not it's not

596
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: really that kind of a serial killer movie. It's uh,

597
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: it's a slower pace kind of indie thing. I feel

598
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: like a lot of characters are in danger. Uh, and

599
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: there's this always this this feeling that like he could

600
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: kill any one of these people, but I don't remember, like,

601
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: for instance, of Hilary Millary gets gets murdered. All right,

602
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's break into the plot on this one. Well.

603
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: I like this movie because it's got a cold open.

604
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: So before we even get the title sequence, there's a

605
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: cold open on a deserted street corner in the dark

606
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: with ominous music, and immediately voiceover narration just kicks right

607
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: in and it says, a few weeks ago, Riverdale, Illinois

608
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: was just another quiet small town. Then on that Saturday,

609
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: What Saturday, I don't know. Shortly after midnight, A Living

610
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: Nightmare began and we see two people about to cross

611
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: paths on the sidewalk or they're going in around a corner.

612
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: One is I think an older man and like a

613
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: heavy coat, and the other is I think Himpton Fanture.

614
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: It's a young man with sort of elfin features, carrying

615
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: a transparent globe that is beaming light from inside, and

616
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 1: he's got a cloth draped over it, and they bump

617
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: into each other on the sidewalk. Elf Boy drops the globe.

618
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: It shatters everywhere and then and then elf Boy viciously

619
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: throttles the older man. It's an intriguing opening. Yeah. Yeah.

620
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: We see some kind of dark goo pouring out of

621
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: the glass ball as it's lying fractured on the on

622
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: the concrete. Picture like this. We never know is it blood,

623
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: is it oil? It's all kind of the same, sup. Yeah,

624
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: of course, it's a hot fudge Sunday on the sidewalk,

625
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: and we hear a hissing sound that will recur throughout

626
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: the movie. But then we go to the title and

627
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: credit sequence, which looked very stylistically familiar to me. Yeah,

628
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: it looks really good. I was looking it up to

629
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: in the credits to see, well, who who did this?

630
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: Who did the opening scroll? And it's this guy, Robert Balser,

631
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: who lived seven through two thousand sixteen, who is known

632
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: for his work in the animation department on both nine

633
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Yellow Submarine and Heavy Metal. Just looking him up, I

634
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: see that he apparently worked under Soul Bass, the director

635
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: of Phase four. And I don't see evidence of this directly,

636
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: but I gotta say that the art style is very

637
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: familiar to me from the credits of other Roger Corman

638
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: drive in movies of the fifties, like Attack of the

639
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: Crab Monsters and Not of This Earth, So I wonder

640
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: if he also did those, but I don't know. Yeah,

641
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: either way, it's certainly eye catching. Well anyway, after the

642
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: credits finished, rather hilariously, the narration resumes in the first person.

643
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if this caught you off guard the

644
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: same way did me. So, Like at first it's like

645
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: God is speaking, it's just you know, disembodied narrator describing events.

646
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: It then it's the same voice saying on Sunday, about

647
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: an hour before nightfall, my fiance and I were returning

648
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: from a trip to her family's home in the country. Yeah,

649
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: that the voiceovers in this uh, this film are kind

650
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: of out of control, and it brings me back to

651
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: what we were talking about recently about Blade Runner. You know,

652
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: some people are like, oh, I don't want any narration,

653
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: and other people like they were like, I'm fine with

654
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: the narration. That's what the first version I saw. Um.

655
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: You know, narration doesn't mean that something's broken in the film.

656
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: Necessarily film, I believe it is there because something is

657
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: broken because audio didn't work in some scenes. They didn't

658
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: get sound in the scene, so they just fill it

659
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: in with narration. Because there are a number of scenes

660
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: in this movie where the narration is not filling in gaps.

661
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: It's just telling you what's happening in a scene that

662
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: you are currently watching without live sound, right, And I

663
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: have to admit sometimes that I'm glad it was there.

664
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad there was the voice of God was present

665
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: to fill me in on what these characters are doing.

666
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: But the funniest thing also, Rachel pointed this out when

667
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: we were watching it, and I had to concur I

668
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: thought the same thing. The narrator sounds exactly like the

669
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Gene Shepherd narration in a Christmas Story. Yeah. I didn't

670
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: catch this when I watched it initially, but on on

671
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: your urging, I went back and listened to part of it,

672
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, I can. I can tendle to get it.

673
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: This sounds like grown up Ralphie. Yeah. But also I

674
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: thought it was funny because so the narration is going, like,

675
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, oh, our wedding date was set, everything was

676
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: right with the world. Meanwhile the car is just peeling

677
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: around corners on this country road. But the narration says,

678
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: we were on the way back to town to tell

679
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: the good news to my father, and then for some reason,

680
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: they just suddenly stop and get out of the car.

681
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: And I don't think I understood why. Maybe it implies

682
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: they have engine trouble, but that was not clear to me. Yeah,

683
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sure on that. Another thing about the first

684
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: person narration is that the narration is from a character

685
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: who doesn't really make sense to be the narrator, because

686
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: I would say he's not the main character of the movie.

687
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: He's like a secondary lead and he doesn't really have

688
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: any special insights. So the character is the character Glenn

689
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: Cameron played by Alan J. Factor whose role in this

690
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: movie is that he's the son of the mayor of

691
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: this town and the actor who plays him looks sort

692
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: of like a young Richard Nixon. Yeah, otherwise, not much

693
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: for a factor in this picture. Like, I didn't even

694
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: list him because and I was looking at his his

695
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: IMDb profile and that, and and nothing was really jumping

696
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: out of me. Yeah, so he's the narrator, but you

697
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: kind of forgot he was in the movie. Yeah. Well, anyway,

698
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: so Glenn and his fiance Elaine played by Jody Fair,

699
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: they go wandering off into the woods after their car stops,

700
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: and going by the lighting, it would seem that they

701
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: wander for days. But I don't think that's what it's

702
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be. This movie just switches frantically between day

703
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: time and nighttime shots with with no apparent rhyme or

704
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: reason that it's just they just do it. Scenes they're

705
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be totally continuous, repeatedly switched between day and night.

706
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I think this is just supposed to

707
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: be moments later that they bumble around in the woods

708
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: and they come across a clearing full of dead animals. Yeah, yeah,

709
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: this is a movie. And I have to admit when

710
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: this stuff was was happening on the screen, um, and

711
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: I was watching in really good quality. I rented it

712
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: through Amazon Prime, so I feel like I was watching

713
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: it and as good equality as possible. But I couldn't

714
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: tell what some of the animals were, and the only

715
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: one we really get a good look at is a

716
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: dead dog. So at first I thought, this is a

717
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: movie that is not only unafraid to kick things off

718
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: with a dead dog, but it seems to have like

719
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: a field full of dead dogs, right. But then right

720
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: next to the slaughterhouse we meet the cone. They immediately

721
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: they look up and they see, in all its glory,

722
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: gleaming in the sunlight, with its apex like like a

723
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: claw reaching out of the earth. The Cone. Yeah. My

724
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: son was in the room and I was watching this part,

725
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, what's what's happening? What's this about? And

726
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: um so I was like, I don't know. I think

727
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: that this cone just messed up a whole field of dogs.

728
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: Um So, I don't know. But it was okay that

729
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: he was watching this film because I noticed the rating

730
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: on this film when I started watching it on Amazon

731
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: was seven plus. So as long as just seven years old.

732
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: You're good to go. I don't know. I mean, it

733
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have any bad words or anything. But this film

734
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: that's an awful lot of like dead animals and people

735
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: just randomly shooting its stuff. Yeah, and uh, it did

736
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: not capture my my son's attention. He was like okay,

737
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: and he left, but he agreed with me that the Cone,

738
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: the fabulous Cone, does look like something you might see

739
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: in a really interesting playground. Like a lot of playgrounds

740
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: these days have the same very nice playground equipment made

741
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: by kind of the same company, and it's good stuff,

742
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: but you'll still occasionally find one that's a bit you know,

743
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: avant gard or you know, was futuristic when it was

744
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: first built, you know, maybe ten or fifteen years ago.

745
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: And this, this is what this looks like. You're like, oh,

746
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: that's that's a cool playground. I kind of want to

747
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: visit that. I look at playgrounds now and all the

748
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: slides and everything are made out of this like soft

749
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: plastic without sharp edges. It's kind of gently curved and

750
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: it looks like it's not going to slice your legs

751
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: up like the metal equipment I remember from my youth.

752
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: This is this is the old school. This is metal

753
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: playground equipment that will it will annihilate your thighs and

754
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: kill every animal within uh several yards here. Well, I

755
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: like it. So they discover the cone and then immediately

756
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: cut to Washington, d C. Establishing shot of the Capitol building.

757
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: We know where we are, and the narrator goes uh.

758
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: Forty eight hours later, in Washington, hastily summoned UFO Committee

759
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: anxiously awaited to see a special screening of tops secret

760
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: Army films. Delaying the proceeding was the late arrival of

761
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: Senator Walter k. Powers. And then Senator Walter k Powers

762
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: busts into the room wearing a hat and large overcoat.

763
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: He's immediately chopping. Next, this guy is every room he

764
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: goes into, he's immediately in charge. Oh but then he

765
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: just sits down. They watched the film strip. So we

766
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: get a movie within a movie, and I'm gonna do

767
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: the narration from it because it basically sets up the

768
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: whole premise. This movie frontloads all of the exposition and

769
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: then it just turns into people shooting at things later on.

770
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: So so the narration goes like this. It says, a

771
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: ravine six miles south of the town of Riverdale, Illinois,

772
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: forty eight hours ago, discovery was made of a great

773
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: cone shaped object. The cone stands fifty feet high has

774
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: a base diameter of fifty feet. The nature of the

775
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: cone undetermined. I'd like how they were gonna say unknown,

776
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: but that would have rhymed with cones, so they changed

777
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: into undetermined, you know, the like you can't say the

778
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: nature of the cone unknown, but then they say origin unknown.

779
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: Efforts made to determine the composition of the cone by

780
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: Dr Paul Kettering, principal scientists for Project Damper, have proven futile.

781
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: The surface of the cone has proven resistant to pressure, heat, acid.

782
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: Coincidental with the discovery of the cone is the brutal

783
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: slaying of several of the town's leading citizens. Wait what

784
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: we do we don't see the brutal well, I guess

785
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: we saw. We saw the guy getting shaken on the

786
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: street corner dropped the globe. Was he a leading citizen? Though?

787
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: I suppose it doesn't tell us who he was? But

788
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, But then we also learned that some townspeople

789
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: are saying that they've seen chariots of fire flying through

790
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: the sky. I like that. I did like that that

791
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: detail did, and yet it shows just a couple of

792
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: people kind of like without sound, just going like wow,

793
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Mara pointing off camera. And then finally it says all

794
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: reports inconclus elusive. As of this report, the origin and

795
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: nature of the cone remain unknown. And meanwhile, it's like,

796
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: so it's showing you the film strip they're all watching,

797
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: but occasionally it cuts to these like very square Washington

798
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: guys watching the movie and they look exactly that. They're

799
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: all wearing these dark suits with the glasses on, and

800
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining, you know, they're whispering to you think

801
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: it's a cone. Looks like a cone to me. But anyway,

802
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: right after the movie finishes, Walter k Powers takes charge.

803
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: He gets up in front of the room. He's like, okay, look, everybody,

804
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: the President has ordered me to take the lead on

805
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: this cone. And he says, quote, I want some action.

806
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I have the people's interests at heart, but I will

807
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: not have my hands bound by lack of all the facts.

808
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: So he announces he's gonna fly to Riverdale and see

809
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: this thing for himself, and then he just bolts out

810
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: of the room. Yeah, you think they maybe send in

811
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: the National Guard or something I don't know, or maybe

812
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: some sort of you know, an X Files type crew,

813
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: but it's no, let's the Senator is gonna arrive and

814
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: and actually like look in on things, not just do

815
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: a photo app Why why is Walter K Power's part

816
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: of the fact finding mission about the Cone? I don't know,

817
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: must be an election yere has to be an election year, right, Oh?

818
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: And then I like, also we see Walter K Powers

819
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: doing some sneaky power moves while he's trying to keep

820
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: the Cone under his jurisdiction, Like he's sending his underlings

821
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: off to like if if they try to get at

822
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: the Cone, make sure that they know there's a threat

823
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: of investigation of their activities and that'll that'll keep them

824
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: out of the Cone. And then he says, I'm gonna

825
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: poke so many holes in that spaceship fairy tale, the

826
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Litt'll be off in twenty four hours. So Walter K

827
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: Powers is not a Cone believer. He's a Cone skeptic.

828
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: And so he's got to fly to Riverdale. He flies

829
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: out there by little plane and he meets he meets

830
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: Glenn Little Nixon, and he he asked, hey, why why

831
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: was the mayor not sent to meet me, and Glenn

832
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Cameron explains, well, there have been some disturbing developments. The mayor,

833
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: who happens to be my father has disappeared, and so

834
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: here I am instead, and then we just cut. This

835
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: is not explained at all. So they're at the airport

836
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: and then it just cuts to a shot of this

837
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: super shady globe guy holding a globe and making the

838
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: funniest face. I wish I could explain. Uh yeah, it's

839
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: almost like three stooges, asked as he's looking side to side.

840
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: This would make for a wonderful little, you know, looping

841
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: animation type deal. Yeah. He he looks. He looks like

842
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: they're not going to get my globe. It's like he's

843
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: stole the son. Well, so anyway, the Glenn Cameron narration

844
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: continues as he takes Walter k Powers to meet the

845
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: the head scientist at the cone site, DCR Kettering. Doctor

846
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: Kettering again, is that's Ed Nelson, That's our sort of

847
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: leading man. We also meet the character of Alice Summers

848
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: played by joe Anna Lee, who is helping doctor Kettering

849
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: with his research, and as soon as Walter k Powers

850
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: shows up, he is throwing his weight around He's like,

851
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: why has nobody been inside the cone yet? And Alice explained,

852
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: is very calmly, that it could be dangerous, but he

853
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: he wants answers. So Walter k Powers goes up to

854
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: meet Ed Nelson that there's all this scaffolding next to

855
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: the cone that they're constantly climbing up and down and

856
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: shooting scenes on. So Walter k Powers he just climbs

857
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: up this fifty ft pile of scaffolding to the top himself. Uh.

858
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: And then he finds kettering up there at the top

859
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: working with his assistant, and he says, you know why

860
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm here, I want action? What what do you think

861
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: he's imagining When he says action, Like what is the

862
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: action he's talking about? It's almost like he is this

863
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: is just political theater, Like it's just about demanding the action.

864
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: Actual action is, you know, given any kind of situation

865
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: is a lot more complicated, like like, what do you

866
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: mean are we gonna try and make, you know, to

867
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: see if there's intelligent life inside? Should we be trying

868
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: to communicate with it? Should be setting up all sorts

869
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: of sensitive equipment. I guess that they're supposed to have

870
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: some sensitive quen set up here. But uh, yeah, I

871
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't really know exactly what he wants. He just

872
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: wants to bust in like g man. I guess yeah, action,

873
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: uh and so, and Nelson does seem to understand what

874
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: he's talking about, because he just launches into a bunch

875
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: of fake scientific techno babble. You know, the ship is indestructible.

876
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: You can't market with diamond bit drills or metal eating acids.

877
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Nothing can affect it. So they try another test that

878
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: they guess haven't tried yet, and they're like, well, let's

879
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: just shoot a gun into this hole and see what happens.

880
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: So they shoot a gun into the hole and it

881
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: ricochets around, which they say proves that the tunnel is

882
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're saying psychic, but that doesn't make

883
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: any sense. I think they're saying cyclic, like it's a

884
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: circle and it comes back to the beginning. Yeah, it's yeah,

885
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: it's a crazy scene. It just seems to ricochet forever

886
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: in there, and I love why. It's almost immediately that

887
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: he's like, you gotta get in there, and then they're like,

888
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: make sure you bring a gun with you so that yeah,

889
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: clearly you have to fire it, or it goes off

890
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: by accident, it will just ricochet endlessly. H and and

891
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: and no doubt hit you at least once. Right. Oh,

892
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: but before they send Kettering into the hole, I love,

893
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: Walter k. Powers gives a speech where he says, I

894
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: can do without the double talk. I don't like to

895
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: push you, Kettering, but you science boys tend to get

896
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: all wrapped up in your test tubes and the obvious

897
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: things escape your attention. I've got to have something to report.

898
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: I want action, not theories. I want to know what's

899
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: inside that ship. So he commands Kettering to go inside

900
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: the ship, and Kettering gets a gun and crawls on

901
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: into the hole. Yeah. But then this is utterly uneventful

902
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: because later he just crawls out of the hole and

903
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: he's like, yep, nothing to report. Yeah, there's no reveal

904
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: of what the inside of this thing is. Like. He's

905
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: just like comes out and he's like, yeah, just goes

906
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: around in circles, Yeah, yeah, up and down, nothing really

907
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: going on in there. Yeah. Oh but then it cuts

908
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: to they get a call that the mayor's showed up again.

909
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: Remember the mayor had disappeared and and Walter K Powers

910
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: did not like that news at all. He was like,

911
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: the mayor shouldn't it sounds like every body here's bungling this. Uh,

912
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: it's not time to take a leave of absence. But

913
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: so the mayor shows back up. He's in his office

914
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: having some kind of horrible anguish, like pointing a gun

915
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: at himself and then removing it and and and like

916
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: sweating profusely. Uh. And everybody goes to the mayor's office

917
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: for some reason. Oh and and there's a brief power

918
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: squabble between the mayor and Walter k Powers. The mayor

919
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: is like, this is my jurisdiction, and Walter k Powers

920
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: is like, I'll bring in the National Guard, I'll take

921
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: over this town. But while while they're arguing, Dr Kettering

922
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: observes he looks at the mayor and he's like, you

923
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: don't look well and uh. And the mayor doesn't like

924
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: being scrutinized like that, and so he's like, Kettering, I

925
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: order you out of town. You can't be in this

926
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: town anymore. And then the mayor freaks out. He pulls

927
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: the gun out of his desk and starts pointing it

928
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: at everybody and Kettering and very calm manner He's like

929
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: as calm as the t one thousand. He says, what

930
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: is that on the back of your neck, Mayor? And

931
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: the mayor says, there's nothing on my neck, And he says,

932
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: I say there is, mind if I take a look

933
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: at it. Well, they almost get him to calm down.

934
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: But then I don't remember what triggers it, but suddenly

935
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: everybody just starts running around and shooting. Yes, this is

936
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: probably as good a time as any, just to mention that,

937
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: um that I believe the allegation was that this film,

938
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: uh borrowed the plot from The Puppet Masters. Oh yeah, yeah,

939
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: the Heineland novel. And apparently Heinlan was going to sue

940
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: them and got a settlement. He got some cash out

941
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: of them, but did not want his name attached to

942
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: the film. Right. But but certainly, if you're if you're

943
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: looking up things about adaptations of The Puppet Masters, are

944
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: you just looking up Heinlan on IMDb? You'll see this

945
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: film listed as an adaptation of that book, even uh,

946
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: And I have to admit I haven't read The Puppet

947
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Masters and I have not seen the the Donald Sutherland adaptation.

948
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: I guess that Donald Sutherland is really into like alien

949
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: invasion parasite films. Yeah, I didn't think. I mean, he

950
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: was in two of them, so I don't know any rate.

951
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it or read it, so I can't

952
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: really comment on how closely this mirror is it, but

953
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: I know that both involve like next slugs that take

954
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: over your brain or something. Well, anyway, in this scene,

955
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: everybody shoots the mayor and then um, they inspect the

956
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: mayor's dead body and there is indeed something horrifying on

957
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: the back of his neck that we don't get to

958
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: see it. The characters all go like oh, and an

959
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: autopsy confirms it. And I just want to point out

960
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: rob I took a screen grab of this. Ed Nelson

961
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: is in the autopsy room with the coroner doing the

962
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: autopsy and looking at the next slug that the tinkler thing,

963
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: and he's he's got like muscle scrubs. He's wearing scrubs

964
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: that are sleeveless with his biceps hanging out. I don't know,

965
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: he's just really going to get in there. I don't know,

966
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: is that a thing muscle scrubs? Well, I haven't seen

967
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: it before. Well, I like, so everybody's hanging out and

968
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,959
Speaker 1: then the coroner comes out to assure everybody. He's like, look,

969
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: none of you should feel bad at all about shooting

970
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: the mayor because he had an alien slug on his

971
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: neck and that would have killed him anyway. So we

972
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: get some scenes where they explore these these tinglers. They say, okay, well,

973
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: they've got two little antenna fangs, and these little antenna

974
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: fang's pierced into the spine at the base of the neck,

975
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: and they inject acid that will kill you if they're detached,

976
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: So you can't just take them off of somebody, though

977
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: they will. They will extract a hefty price, a fatal

978
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: price from the victim if they're removed, kind of like

979
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: the face hugger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, try and cut the

980
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: face hugger off. The aliens gonna alien blood is gonna

981
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: burn you, um, you know, try and pull it off.

982
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna strangle them with the tail. But they give

983
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: the expository set up there, like, once this thing attaches

984
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: itself to the victim's back, the victim is not human anymore.

985
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: They become they they are under the command of this

986
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: of this tingler, And so the movie is frontloaded with

987
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: a lot of expository set up. But you know, there

988
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: are a lot more horror and action scenes to follow,

989
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: and and the next thing, indeed, is one of these.

990
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: So we get like a scene of a of a

991
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: I think it's the sheriff. There's some kind of cop

992
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: out driving on the road at night, and then there's

993
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: a guy lying in the middle of the road as

994
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: the police car approaches, so the officer gets out to investigate.

995
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: But then the guy, it's a it's a surprise attack.

996
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: He ambushes him and he starts punching him, and then

997
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: they do some kind of globe magic on the cop,

998
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: like this other guy comes in with one of the

999
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: glowing orbs and that they get the cop cone zombified.

1000
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: And you know what, there's not much about this movie

1001
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: that's really like effective on the level that it's trying

1002
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: to be. I'd say the closest thing is this scene

1003
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about, the scene at night with the with

1004
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: the cop. Yeah. Yeah, Like with the they showed the

1005
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: siren going around and as the spooky guys are approaching

1006
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: with the globe. It's a little bit creepy, I guess, yeah, yeah,

1007
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, the scene where they're they're milling

1008
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: about there after they got him and you got hamped

1009
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: in there, uh you know, looking uh looking all again,

1010
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of loop on. You have globe guy and knowing

1011
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: about Yeah, yeah, they're they're building up their forces. There's

1012
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: also a scene somewhere around here where Alice and Kettering

1013
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: start falling in love while they are dissecting the slug

1014
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: and the lab and Kettering says, you cut a snake

1015
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: in half and it's two pieces will go off in

1016
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: different directions, and I was thinking, is that true? Uh yeah,

1017
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: I was iffy about that as well. It's like, that's

1018
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: really how snakes work. Oh my god. But this scene

1019
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: had one of the funniest things in the entire movie.

1020
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: We were shrieking when one of the Tinglers crawls up

1021
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: on the table and it attacks Kettering's arm and he

1022
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: starts screaming, He's like a hit it, And then Alice

1023
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: just starts batting at it with a clipboard. Yeah, and

1024
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: I think he has to have to burn it off

1025
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: with a Bunsen burner. Yes, yeah, really funny. But eventually

1026
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: we get a big fat theorizing scene. They take their

1027
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: their knowledge and apply it to uh to what's going

1028
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: on with these parasites. They the parasites must have initially

1029
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: tried to infect the animals, remember that all the dead

1030
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: animals around the cone. But it didn't work. They say

1031
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: they tried animals out of ignorance. They didn't know which animal,

1032
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: including man, was best suited for this environment, so they

1033
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: experimented trial and error. And then Alice says, you mean

1034
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: they can think. And Glenn Cameron, the little nixony looking guys, says,

1035
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: you mean these things can take over a man's mind

1036
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: and he becomes a robot. I love a good robot

1037
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: line in a picture. Um. Yeah, And in this I

1038
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: guess we're getting into the you know, the the the obvious. Um,

1039
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, communism comparison to be taken here that the

1040
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: parasites are communism. And of course, as we all know,

1041
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: communism was first tried on animals and it did not work,

1042
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, and and and many of the animals died.

1043
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: I didn't work on goats, it didn't work on dogs.

1044
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: But then but then it tried people, and you know,

1045
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: here we are, well, this is we get the parallels

1046
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: in all these movies from the fifties and Invasion of

1047
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: the Body Snatchers and uh, it conquered the world. It's

1048
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: the same plot. And in almost all these are some

1049
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 1: kind of mind control, parasitic alien or something that comes

1050
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: in and says, you will have peace, there will be

1051
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: no more conflict if you just let us take over

1052
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: your minds. And and I think it's pretty clear what

1053
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: the what the allegories are supposed to be there, So

1054
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: in this picture, you know, I don't know if they're

1055
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: necessarily thinking too much about them, and they're just sort

1056
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: of painting with some of the same shades that were

1057
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: popular in genre fiction at the time. Yeah, exactly. Oh

1058
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: but the other thing they figure out that they're like, hey,

1059
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: this spaceship, the Cone, it must actually just be one

1060
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: section of a larger hole. And what we need to

1061
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: do is because they think, well, this section of the cone,

1062
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: maybe it's just like a fuel storage portion, and we

1063
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: need to find the control portion of the ship. And

1064
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: in order to do that, we better split up into

1065
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: groups and go look forward individually. Uh. So they do

1066
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: that and we get some funny scenes, like one is

1067
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: Walter k Power's riding in a car with his assistant

1068
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: and one of the other scientists, and the scientist says

1069
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: to his his assistant. He's like, you don't talk much,

1070
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: do you, And Walter k Power says, that's why he's

1071
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: my assistant. Now you take parrots, great talkers lousy flyers.

1072
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: It's like, what does that mean? Is his assistant a

1073
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: good flyer? Yeah? Or is is he saying that he's

1074
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: essentially a parent, that he's the talker but he can't fly.

1075
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: It's strange our parents lousy flyers. I don't even know

1076
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: if I believe that. I don't. I don't know. I

1077
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: don't think that's that's actually true either. That's that's told

1078
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: from the same animal fact book is the snake thing.

1079
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: But basically everybody investigates, they find nothing. There's a scene

1080
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: where Glenn in a lane they go and they go

1081
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: and look around in the shack, and then they hear

1082
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: that hissing sound we've heard a few times and then

1083
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: they see I think it's Hampton Vanture at the window

1084
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: with the globe. But fortunately Glenn is armed and he

1085
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: shoots at all movement until everything is set right. Uh.

1086
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: And then everybody comes back and they're like, Nope, we

1087
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: didn't find anything. And then there's I enjoyed the Long

1088
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: Telegraph scene where Walter k Powers is trying to send

1089
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: a telegraph to the governor. That's like, uh, I don't

1090
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: remember exactly. He's like, everything is ruined, Stop aliens invading

1091
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: parasite stop, you know, send army immediately. But then we

1092
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: cut to the guy at the telegraph office and what

1093
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: he actually sends is everything peaceful here, spaceship pure bunk.

1094
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: So they've gotten to our telegraph operators. Yeah. Oh, and

1095
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: also later that night, the parasite zombies they attack Alice. Whoops,

1096
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: whoops that they go and they put one of the

1097
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 1: tinglers in her room and it gets on her neck

1098
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: and now she's zombified. What I loved about this scene though,

1099
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: is that this is basically the same scene that we

1100
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: get in Attack of the Clones when the the assassin

1101
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: tries to take out a medala and uh and then

1102
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: anakin you know, leaps in with the light saber to

1103
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: stop her. It's the same thing. The the shape shifting

1104
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: assassin put some sort of a strange killer you know,

1105
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: toxic slug into the room with her, maybe a couple

1106
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: of them if I remember correctly, and uh, and yeah,

1107
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very similar. I would not be surprised

1108
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: if Lucas might have been thinking back on this sequence

1109
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: when when putting that film together. Oh, I do think

1110
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: Brain Eaters is one of his favorite films, he said, So, no,

1111
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: I made that up. Well, but I mean he Lucas

1112
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: was always throwing in various you know, homages to older pictures,

1113
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised. But yeah, I was expecting

1114
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: Anakin to jump in with a lightstaper and start cutting

1115
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: slugs in half. Well, I would love to find out

1116
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: that were true good inspiration from from nineteen fifties B

1117
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: sci fi. Yeah, oh, but I totally forgot until we

1118
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: just got to this. They they go back to the

1119
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: cone and then there's a dying man lying outside the

1120
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: cone and the dirt, and they recognize him and they're like, hey,

1121
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: he's that famous scientist who mysteriously disappeared. That was a

1122
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: moment where I was where I was when it was

1123
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: I just not paying attention to this never appeared in

1124
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: the movie before and never been referenced. So they're just like, hey,

1125
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: we all know who you are. It's like you go

1126
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: up to the cone and it's like that's Carl Sagan

1127
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: lying in the dirt. Yeah. Anyway, so they say, well,

1128
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: he disappeared on an expedition five years ago and looks

1129
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: like he had one of these parasites on him and

1130
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: was inside the cone somehow. But now the parasite is

1131
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: off of him, so he's dying because remember if you

1132
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: take the parasite off, you die and uh. And they

1133
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: take him back to the hospital and we get this

1134
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: like scene where they're they're interrogating this this frail dying man,

1135
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: and they say, where is Dr Cole who vanished with you?

1136
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: And oh oh. The other questions they say, are the

1137
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: parasites from the cone, what is the secret of the cone?

1138
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: And the man's limit. He has like two more words

1139
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: before he dies. One of them he says carboniferous. It

1140
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: sounds like carnivorous, but no, he says carboniferous, referring to

1141
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: the geologic epoch. And they're like, oh okay. So he

1142
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: says carboniferous. That means that these parasites are from the

1143
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: ancient past. There from Earth, and they were under the

1144
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: earth all this time. Walter k Powers deduces, then it's

1145
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: not a spaceship, it's from below. Oh so this is

1146
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: like a like a drill device. This is that has

1147
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: drilled its way up through the crust, right, that was

1148
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: created by aliens from the carboniferous era of of Earth,

1149
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: uh to a few hundred million years ago or whatever.

1150
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh and then the scientist also he says as he dies,

1151
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: he goes death. That's a good one, yes, famous last words. Uh.

1152
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: And then there's like I love that the scenes where

1153
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: they just discovered that all of their infrastructure has been

1154
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: taken over by the by the lobe zombies. Because Walter

1155
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: k Powers is trying to call somebody to get the

1156
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's trying to call the governor or something,

1157
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: and the phone operator just keeps saying, I'm sorry, sir,

1158
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: that line is busy no matter who he tries to call.

1159
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: So they've got our telephone operators too. And then following

1160
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: up from this, Kettering and Glenn Cameron go to the

1161
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: telegraph office to beat up the guy who works there.

1162
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh and this is where we get a big like

1163
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: cowboy style martial arts fight. Right. I think there's a

1164
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: which I always love in a picture from there's like

1165
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a it's a wide period of time,

1166
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: I want to say, like uppards of like twenty years

1167
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: where all these fights have kind of the same choreography.

1168
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: If there's a table, somebody's going over it, and then

1169
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: there'll be a few karate chops in there, and there's

1170
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: one karate chop thrown by by our hero here by

1171
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: dr kettering right to somebody's back, right, Yeah, Yeah, it

1172
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: always happened. So the the bad person in the fight

1173
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: goes head down and then tries to kind of tackle,

1174
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: like goes into the mid section of the good character,

1175
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: and then the good character has to like chop at

1176
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: their back until they like knock them down. Yeah, I

1177
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: love it. Is it always like that? I don't know,

1178
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: that's the There's just something about the fire. I really

1179
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: should research it at some point, Like what is it

1180
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: about five choreography from films from this time period? Is

1181
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: it just like the sort of the same group of

1182
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: choreographers that were doing everything? Is it? How much of

1183
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: it is like a holdover from like like vaudeville or

1184
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: silent era. I don't know, Um, I'm wondering. I wonder

1185
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: if delivering blows to the back is easier to make

1186
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: look realistic while risking less injury than other types of

1187
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: fighting moves. That is probably a big part of it. Yeah,

1188
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: because I know that. Yeah, you know you can you

1189
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: can have like more of as a flat blow to

1190
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: the back, and it's going to be less intensive. You know,

1191
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: you can do some some mocks strangling, uh and and

1192
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: so forth, some some basic like headlocks stuff, and it'll

1193
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: look pretty good. Speaking of headlocks, did you did you

1194
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: pick up on the thing throughout the movie where the

1195
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: people who were infected by the parasites often have a

1196
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: lump under the collar on the back of their shirt

1197
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: that is like throbbing or pulsing. Um, I did, yeah,

1198
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: the which again, I guess this is the presence of

1199
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: the slug right right, it is, yeah, and so like

1200
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: it's a giveaway in some scenes. So, uh, you know,

1201
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: the phones don't work, the telegraph won't work because zombies

1202
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: have taken over whatever they are the you know, the

1203
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: parasite controlled humans have taken over all those things. And

1204
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: then Walter k Powers tries to go to the radio

1205
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: station to like send out a broadcast about the about

1206
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: the cone, but apparently they're not transmitting because the guy

1207
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: operating the radio station you see under his shirt, he's

1208
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: got this wa wa thing going on back there. It

1209
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: reminds me of the later battle Sarclactica remake where the

1210
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: spines of the cylons had like glows. I don't know

1211
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: if anyone any like actual character has ever noticed it,

1212
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: but the viewers to notice it. Oh, I didn't even

1213
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: remember remember that. But also this makes me realize the

1214
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: karate chopper in the earlier scene. That was a karate

1215
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: chop right to the sluck that was spot on martial arts. Yeah,

1216
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: that was a pressure point strike right to the tingler. Yeah,

1217
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: it's really a flaw on the plant. Like the Tingler

1218
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: at least is an indo parasite, this one's an exo parasite.

1219
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: Even though it's altering behavior, it leaves it susceptible to

1220
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: karate chopped like this. Right, So we know in the

1221
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: end that ultimately Kettering is gonna have to venture into

1222
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: the cone again to learn the secret of the Cone.

1223
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: And so Kettering does go. Before he goes into the cone,

1224
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: there's some guards that have been stationed there. I think

1225
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: they're police officers to like protect the cone, but of

1226
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: course they're infected too, so they start shooting at Kettering,

1227
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: and then everybody starts shooting at everybody because everybody is armed.

1228
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: But Kettering gets inside the Cone and meets Leonard Nimoi. Yeah,

1229
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: and this is this The whole scene here is is

1230
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: nice and weird. Like at this point you're like, Okay,

1231
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: this was worth the fifty minute journey to get here.

1232
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: Sure Leonard new Moist surrounded by fog, dressed like Gandalf

1233
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: with a long beard and it was that supposed to

1234
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: be long hair or a hood? I think it's a hood. Yeah,

1235
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: we see it close up and he's got a hood

1236
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: on and I'm wondering why is he dressed like that?

1237
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: Because he's supposed to be Professor Cole the other scientists

1238
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: who vanished with the guy we met earlier. But but

1239
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: was Professor Cole carry like wearing robes with a hood

1240
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: when he went into the ship? Now he in hast

1241
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: be lower ranking in the new order that has arisen

1242
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: in the depths here. But where did the robes of

1243
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: the hood come from? Did the did the aliens make it?

1244
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: Did the did the slugs make the robe? I guess?

1245
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: So you know, the robes were supplied and the other

1246
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: professor uh did not want to wear a robe, and

1247
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: they were like, well, if you're not gonna wear a robe,

1248
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to leave and he did and then

1249
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: he died. That's my read on it. Well, anyway, so

1250
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: Kettering gets down there and he he confronts Professor Cole Leonardnimoy,

1251
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: and Nimoy says, we're in complete harmony. We we you're inseparable.

1252
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: There is no conflict. We will not engage in combat,

1253
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: no violence of any kind. Why should we when we

1254
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: can scatter quietly like seeds in the wind. I was like, oh,

1255
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: the writings got slightly better for a moment um, but

1256
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: then um, and then he starts talking about in a

1257
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: slightly more awkward way. He's saying like, let's, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's replace all this messy, flawed humanity with the exactitude

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Speaker 1: of mathematics. And it's like, is that what these slugs

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Speaker 1: are about there? Into mathematics? Well, they built up the

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Speaker 1: spaceship cone thing. Yeah, math was assuming math was involved.

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Speaker 1: So Nimoy says, you know, we're we're going to force

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Speaker 1: upon man a life free from strife and turmoil. Uh

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Speaker 1: and uh. And again this is very similar theme we've

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Speaker 1: seen in other movies. It conquered the world and so forth.

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Speaker 1: And so they talk for a bit and then eventually

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Speaker 1: the scientists just start shooting everything, and so how did

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Speaker 1: they So they start shooting at Lendardnimoy and shooting at

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Speaker 1: the tanglers, and they get out of the cone, and

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Speaker 1: how so they're back outside and like, how do they

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Speaker 1: defeat the cone in the end? Give it's a nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifties movie. It's indestructible alien enemy. Give you one guess,

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Speaker 1: how do they beat it? Sodium? That's that's another movie. Electricity,

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Speaker 1: the electricity, And luckily, why didn't I think of that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the same thing they did in the Thing

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Speaker 1: from Another World, right, electropaths? That's right, yep, that is

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Speaker 1: what they do. Yeah, the the aliens never see that coming.

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Speaker 1: They're like electricity. Who would have thought? But luckily they

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Speaker 1: don't know about electricity. They yeah, or they've forgotten about

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Speaker 1: they moved past it to their detriment. But luckily the

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Speaker 1: narrator here is here is back to walk us through

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Speaker 1: every step of this plan because it involves a harpoon gun.

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Speaker 1: Then they say that, well, this is your standard issue

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Speaker 1: for folks doing like electrical line work. Um, if they

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Speaker 1: need to run something over difficult to rain, I gotta

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Speaker 1: say the logistics part of the final the final ten

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Speaker 1: minutes of the movie really slowed down. I think that

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Speaker 1: was not a highlight of the film, like you can

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Speaker 1: just speed through this now we get it. Yeah, normally,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's I guess the stylistically kind of interesting

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Speaker 1: because a lot of times, like how are you going

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Speaker 1: to do the final come upance of the alien? You

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have like a plan and it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: planned out and explained. Like in The Thing from Another

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Speaker 1: World or many pictures, it's going to be kind of

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Speaker 1: a gut instinct on the part of the hero, like

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Speaker 1: where he suddenly remembers something and the weakness comes to

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Speaker 1: him and he makes it happen. This was, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is a little bit more drawn out. It's basically in

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood of the Thing from Another World, except I

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Speaker 1: don't know, there's no there's no real tension. You know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna work, and the Thing from Another World you're

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Speaker 1: not so certain. Oh, but as sort of like the

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Speaker 1: Thing from Another World, this movie, the final confrontation with

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Speaker 1: the monster involves a sort of like a flawed temptation

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Speaker 1: towards human connection with the beast because Alice comes out,

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Speaker 1: Remember Alice comes out of the Cone, and she's been

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Speaker 1: parasite zombified, and she says to Kettering, she's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't don't you remember me? Why don't come

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Speaker 1: party with me and Leonard Nimoy and we'll live for

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Speaker 1: two hundred million years. And he's like, no, no, we can't.

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Speaker 1: And so she gets really mad at him and she says,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I ever loved you, and she shoots him,

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Speaker 1: and then Kettering is yelling out to his friends. He's like,

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Speaker 1: fire that harpoon gun. So they do and we watch,

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Speaker 1: we watch the I guess they're just a bunch of tinglers.

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Speaker 1: Will slug things with the antennae, like rolling around getting electrified,

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Speaker 1: and we see all the human characters shielding their eyes.

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Speaker 1: I guess because it's it's bright. And that's it. They

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Speaker 1: defeat the Cone and one of the last lines of

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Speaker 1: dialogue is Walter K. Powers saying something about how something

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Speaker 1: or you don't know Walter K Powers. I gotta get

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Speaker 1: his name in one more time, one more time. I'm

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Speaker 1: just in case you forgot it. That's Walter k Powers

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Speaker 1: dot com. And we take donations in ten twenty fifties

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Speaker 1: or whatever you want to give, whatever you can spare.

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Speaker 1: It's Walter k Powers dot Com. I want action and

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Speaker 1: then and then you're done, like you're You're in and

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Speaker 1: out on this picture in about an hour. Like we've

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Speaker 1: I think we've we've talked more in this episode than

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Speaker 1: the movie. Actually last this episode is like twenty eight

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Speaker 1: minutes longer than the movie. So this is a film

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Speaker 1: that you know, moved right along, had a pretty fun

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Speaker 1: sci fi plot, great poster. Um. I feel like if

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Speaker 1: this movie had had a more memorable looking creature or

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Speaker 1: effect in it, uh, it would have been um, it

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01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: would be better remembered. You know, like like I think

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Speaker 1: of some of these other pictures that we've discussed or

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01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: talked about, there'll be some sort of practical effect in

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Speaker 1: there that it works on some level, or or is

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Speaker 1: even goofy enough to where it throws, you know, it

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Speaker 1: goes over the top enough that it becomes memorable. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's a failing of the picture,

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Speaker 1: because you know, the slugs and the cone are all

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: great in their own way, but it's it's lacking that

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01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: that one like super weird visual thing that pushes it

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01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: over the edge. I agree, if it had a puppet,

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Speaker 1: like the Artichoke and it conquered the world, or like

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Speaker 1: the Crab in Attack of the Crab Monsters. This would

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Speaker 1: be an all time great drive in movie. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is not a good movie by any means, but

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Speaker 1: it's highly amusing. It's only sixty minutes long. It moves

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Speaker 1: right along. There are a few boring stretches, but they're

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Speaker 1: over pretty quick. It's this is a good one. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean an hour picture. You're you're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: bored for long. It does have some fun cameos and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just just an enjoyable, enjoyable little picture. Umah worth

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Speaker 1: it for the nimoy reveal at the end, for sure.

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Speaker 1: The warning you can you can barely tell it's him,

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Speaker 1: like he's he's hiding behind a lot of fog and

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Speaker 1: a big, big old beard. Yeah. Yeah, it's best no

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: to know going into it. Yeah, Nimoi will appear. You

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Speaker 1: just got him time, but he still never got his

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Speaker 1: forty five dollars, still didn't get paid. Yeah, way to

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Speaker 1: go ed. All right, Well, if you want to watch

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Speaker 1: this movie as well, um you can find it in

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Speaker 1: various places. I found that I couldn't find it some places,

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Speaker 1: and I found it other places. So I found it

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. I was able to you can rent

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Speaker 1: er buy it there at least as of this recording

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Speaker 1: in the United States. Um, you can probably find in

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Speaker 1: some other places as well. UM. I want to say,

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01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: like Pluto or tub looked like they had it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: So you know, shop around. It's out there, so it's

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Speaker 1: it's not completely forgotten. You can get it as a

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Speaker 1: complementary digital download with any donation at Walter k powers

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Speaker 1: dot com Walter k Powers for America. It is also

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01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: on DVD. You can get on DVD and uh, and

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01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: people are selling the poster. You can get that vintage poster.

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01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: I would say that the poster is probably better well

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Speaker 1: known than the movie. Um. I think that's that's that's

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: fair fair to say because especially in the stage of

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Speaker 1: you Tumbler and so forth, and you know, and blogs

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01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: like Monster Brains. Uh. You know, you get the instant

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: satisfaction of looking at this stellar poster. Uh, and not

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01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: everybody's going to be inclined to actually check out the

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Speaker 1: motion picture behind it. All right, Well, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: and close it out here. If you want to check

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Speaker 1: out other episodes of Weird House Cinema. It comes out

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01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: feed We're normally a science podcast with episodes core episodes

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01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: on Tuesdays and Thursdays, but on Fridays we set most

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Speaker 1: of that aside and talk about a weird picture like

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Speaker 1: this one. On Wednesday's. We do a short form artifact episode.

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