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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by bet three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. I

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Speaker 1: am Chad Noman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. Look,

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Speaker 1: we are through the draft, we are through free agency. Suddenly,

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Speaker 1: nearly every future's betting market is available, super Bowl winners,

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, season win totals. This week, we're

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Speaker 1: going to start dabbling with our first Impressions. Thursday, We're

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Speaker 1: going to be joined by Danny Parkins, one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite Danny Parkins, honest to god, may be one of

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Speaker 1: the most talented sports radio hosts in the country in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Might have my dream job. Actually, he's going to come along.

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Speaker 1: He's going to talk NFC. Obviously Chicago bend because of

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Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams and the draft that they had today. Simon

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Speaker 1: and I are going to do pass or Play for

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Speaker 1: every AFC team. Pastor Play is one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: stories that we do every week during the NFL season,

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Speaker 1: where we give a pass or a play on every game.

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Speaker 1: So we're borrowing the concept bring it into the show

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Speaker 1: joining me as always. As I mentioned, my co host,

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Speaker 1: my companion Micah Padre might be a f F professional

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Speaker 1: better Simon Hunter Eto. So I'm in Simon. If we

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Speaker 1: were doing a roast right now, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: would get to be the host of your roast. Would

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell get to come? Would producer Tito come? How

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Speaker 1: inspired were you by Tom Brady's roast the other night?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty inspired, But honestly I'm Matt, Matt and Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: I love you Chad, You're you are in my number one,

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Speaker 2: but Matt Mitchell might be the host. I feel like

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Speaker 2: he's better with the one liners. You're very you are

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Speaker 2: funny if you're written funny where And Matt Mitchell I

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Speaker 2: feel like, in the moment could do some great propavization,

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Speaker 2: which we saw with Kevin r. You need it right.

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Speaker 2: There's even a lot of awkward moments in our roast,

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Speaker 2: so I would love seeing you trying to transition in

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Speaker 2: a roast. That would be something. I mean, if Beth

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Speaker 2: through Sixscide was to sponsor a roast of Simon, I

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Speaker 2: definitely would allow it.

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Speaker 1: Who was your favorite? I know we were talking a

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Speaker 1: lot about the roast before, Like you know, Nicky Glazer

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Speaker 1: was amazing, Kevin Hart was amazing. The roast has been

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Speaker 1: all over socials for the past forty eight hours. You

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Speaker 1: had a very specific favorite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely for comedians, as people know the love listeners

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Speaker 2: of the show. I'm obsessed with Kill Tony, which is

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Speaker 2: a comedy show Tony Hinchcliff runs, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: thought he did great. But to me, of the athletes,

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Speaker 2: Drew Blutsoe, I was blown away how funny and clever

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Speaker 2: he was. And now I know a lot of that's

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Speaker 2: written by comedians, but a lot of it was written

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Speaker 2: by him and was good personal shots. I mean, my

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Speaker 2: favorite thing was him making fun of Brady for having

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Speaker 2: a yellow jeep, which is even that funny, but Brady

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Speaker 2: got upset about it where he like said something during

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Speaker 2: the show like I didn't have a LGP. He goes,

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Speaker 2: yes you did, and like don't deny it Tom, which

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Speaker 2: I just thought was great where it's like just total

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Speaker 2: big brother syndrome where it's like, doesn't matter Tom's seven

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Speaker 2: still Drew Drew Bleutze's little brother, which is just hilarious

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Speaker 2: to me. So, by the way, loved it.

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Speaker 1: This bullshit. I'm so good off prompter, I'm so good

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Speaker 1: with one liners, I'm so good spontaneous in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Are better than Mitchell? Though, that's the question.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm better than Matt Mitchell, but I

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be about me being bad in

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Speaker 1: the moment. Maybe Matt Mitchell's just amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's like every time I'm talking to my

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Speaker 1: wife and we're saying we're talking about something, she'll point

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Speaker 1: something out to our kids about something I'm bad at.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this isn't about me. Why does it have

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Speaker 1: to be about something I'm bad at? Can't it just

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Speaker 1: be good feedback for our children? Meanwhile, Saturday Kentucky Derby,

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Speaker 1: biggest most bet Kentucky Derby of all time and this

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Speaker 1: is the inanity of betting the Kentucky Derby. So my

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Speaker 1: buddy Dan was texting me during the week. Dan is

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Speaker 2: Anyways, I don't not shocking that your friend is an

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Speaker 1: He made a lot of he made a lot of bets.

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Speaker 1: It happened in one of them.

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Speaker 2: That's funny.

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Speaker 1: How'd you do in the derby?

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Speaker 2: A total wash? I missed it as well. I bet it,

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Speaker 2: but I missed it. It's the worst filling everyone. And

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Speaker 2: when you check the account, hoping you hit and you

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Speaker 2: just see the zeros and you go, God, damn it.

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Speaker 1: Oh for I had trifectas, I had exact as. I

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Speaker 1: were mystic Dan. Next time, we'll get them next time.

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Speaker 1: hint of which side we're leaning First up, AFC East

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Speaker 1: New England. Right now, season Wintill is five and a half.

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Speaker 1: It's juice to the under, a couple of tasty ones.

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Speaker 1: They are thirty five and one to go winless. Drake

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Patriots fans, welcome to hell. This is your new normal.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed the roast and all the old

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Speaker 2: memories and all the ex players and reliving all that

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Speaker 2: you had the best run ever of twenty years and

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Speaker 2: now you're going to be irrelevant for twenty years. I mean,

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Speaker 2: May could be your savior. The odds say he has

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Speaker 2: I know, Patriots fans like to convince themselves that you

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Speaker 2: played well last year. You just lost the best defensive

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Speaker 2: mind we've ever seen in football in Belichick. It's it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be rough. Like I wish there was some party.

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Speaker 2: May I love this underdog story of this team that

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Speaker 2: Cardinals were last year. It's just like you might see

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Speaker 2: just hammering this under You're just a really bad team

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Speaker 2: Like it's crazy how hard your division is now, and

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Speaker 2: it was just never was this way, the whole Grady error.

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Speaker 2: So I just don't. I don't see how the Patriots

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Speaker 2: just hard for me to get behind them stealing games

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Speaker 2: where they've lost. Now, Belichick like the Belichick magic. As

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Speaker 2: this is definitely an under. I bet at five and

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Speaker 2: a disaster upcoming season for this Patriots team.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you're saying you did bet New England.

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Speaker 1: most passing touchdowns, Raheem Moster nine to one league to

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Speaker 1: Nine and a half wins with the with the Jets

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Speaker 1: improved feels high to me.

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Speaker 2: It feels high, but it also feels right. This is

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Speaker 2: a boom or bust team, like we we saw them

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Speaker 2: put seventy points up last year. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: they've improved that anyway, but they will improve because it's

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Speaker 2: another year of TUA in this system. So it's like,

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Speaker 2: all right, I trust their coach, I trust their offense,

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Speaker 2: I trust them to put up points. I just I

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Speaker 2: don't know. They've made some really questionable moves on defense,

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Speaker 2: you're right, like I probably should take the under year,

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Speaker 2: but I'm I'm with you where it's it's may a

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Speaker 2: guy have a huge, really strong opinion on that Patriots

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Speaker 2: team Miami. Here, it's like it's right there, Like when

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Speaker 2: I look at them, I had them at nine to

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Speaker 2: under though, just because I do think their defense has regressed.

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Speaker 2: But it's like what we just talked about, we have

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Speaker 2: And that is why what you just touched on that

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Speaker 2: these type of teams to win divisions, to go over

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Speaker 2: This year, we love it right. I love their win

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Speaker 2: Now in the playoffs, me and Chad will be really

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Speaker 1: The idea of Aaron Rodgers and how good he can be.

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Speaker 1: So if they have Aaron Rodgers is like they say

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Speaker 1: That wasn't scripted, Simon. I could have used that at

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, everyone says you got an edge to you, Chad.

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Speaker 2: Now we're seeing it.

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell is desperate for us to talk about the

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Rights, the Buffalo Bills and their development lack thereof their

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Speaker 1: freaking loved the Bills ten and a half wins juice

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Speaker 1: to the under plus one fifty to win the Division

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Speaker 1: twelve to one the Super Bowl, same as Cincinnati, by

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Speaker 1: the way, which we liked about six weeks ago at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, after were a small bet on their under, A

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Speaker 2: down since then because now they've gotten rid of digs

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Speaker 2: to bet it, like it's scary us how to bet

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Speaker 2: against Josh Allen? Like plus one seventy that's all I'm

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Speaker 2: getting from the missed up playoffs. Come on, bet three

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Speaker 2: six five, at least give me plus two hundred, Like,

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Speaker 2: That's it? That's very telling. It is telling. That means

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Speaker 2: driven that number down. I mean, it's scary to bet

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Speaker 2: that's the bet. Like you expect them a regression this

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Speaker 2: Like they got rid of Gabe Davis, they got rid

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Speaker 2: the year, they became a more run oriented team to

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Speaker 2: It worked out for me. I mean, that's what you

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Speaker 2: a three hundred three to one or four to one

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Speaker 2: for them to win the division? Right now, the path

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Speaker 2: was there. We got really lucky where they ran perfect

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Speaker 2: the end of the season. They did win the division

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Speaker 2: a season from hell, and usually that's a bad stot

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Speaker 2: to be in, right, That usually doesn't work that way

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Speaker 2: in football. It's never that easy. But how can you

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Speaker 2: they done to make you positive heading into this upcoming season? Right?

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Speaker 2: This is to me the worst thing they've had, at

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Speaker 2: for us them being the favorite to still win this division,

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Speaker 2: that's probably the most shocking thing. I think that's the

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Speaker 2: respect that Josh Allen gets. So you're right, Chat, it's

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Speaker 1: All right, So in our pass or play game for

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Speaker 1: We are noncommittal to a pass right now. In general,

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Speaker 1: Miami Markets and Buffalo Markets AFC North. Last year, this

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Speaker 1: their season win total. Every team had at least nine wins.

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Speaker 1: They proved it weekend and week out that this was

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Speaker 1: bookmakers do this, and the jew shows it. Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 1: at seven and a half wins minus one pint eighty

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Speaker 1: to the over man.

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Speaker 2: We make the simple complex in this business, don't we.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Tomlin raw Ross spot. You just gotta bet

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Speaker 1: the He's never not had a five hundred season or better,

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Speaker 2: You're right, and it's funny. Last year at this point.

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Speaker 2: I remember being out on Pittsburgh and then like a

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Speaker 2: freaking fool, I got sucked in on Kenny Pickett because

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Speaker 2: Got lucky last year, like hammered, they're over because I

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Speaker 2: was all in on Pittsburgh and God was at a sweat.

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Speaker 2: It's still hit somehow, Chad. So you're right, it's like

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Speaker 2: the man has never gone under is never had to

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Speaker 2: lose in season, made an opportunity to get a quality

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Speaker 2: dude at a discount, like what we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: two highest upside best quarterbacks they've had in the building

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Speaker 2: since you know, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, fully good to

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Speaker 2: the win totals, like He's just he's performed really well

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Speaker 2: I think it might touch eight. I think eventually he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would totally wait on this and just take

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Speaker 1: every single year. And that's the difference between winning five

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Speaker 1: So kudos to him. Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals game roaring back.

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Speaker 1: Ten and a half wins juiced over, I don't love that,

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Speaker 1: There's a million ways to look at this Bengals team. Simon,

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Speaker 2: got a good number on them for Super Bowl futures

432
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: and they've just only come down. But yeah, to me,

433
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: they're the best value this division. And the fear is

434
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 2: like again, talked to a lot of professionals who love

435
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 2: this bet as well. That's why the numbers come down.

436
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: The fear is always going to be Joe Brown's health,

437
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: like we've had multiple season now, the kid getting hurt.

438
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: That's that's a real issue. Like I want to gloss

439
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: over it, but it's it's a problem. Like we're putting

440
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: big money on the future market on a person that

441
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 2: you know, he got us to the super Bowl an

442
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: incredible run, but his other seasons he's been banged up

443
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: and running for his life. And Okay, did they fix

444
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: the offensive line issues. Is he more protected, Is he's

445
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: still going to have his issue of holding onto the

446
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: ball too long and taking these unnecessary hits. These are

447
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 2: major issues as a better So me and Chad love

448
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: this team, but we're telling you now if you're this

449
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: is probably one of the the least safe teams to bet,

450
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: Like there's no doubt when we're talking about these like

451
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: they are not on the same level as the Chiefs.

452
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 2: The Chiefs feel so much safer, where since he does

453
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: not feel safe. So you are getting a bad number

454
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: right now in super Bowl market. Don't touch that. Me

455
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: and Chat already hit it. Don't touch it. The Bengals,

456
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: we've we've seen this history of Joe Burrow for some

457
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 2: reason keeps missing time in the preseason and then they

458
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: come out on a slow start like this has happened

459
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: multiple times with them. If you want, you can just

460
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: wait on that type of future market where their super

461
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: Bowl futures now, because you've already missed a good number

462
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: six to one him TV passing leader. I don't know.

463
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: It feels like they're run the ball decent amount and

464
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: they get in the red zone. So that's another bet

465
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: that's a little weird where it's that low. But me

466
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: and you we love Joe Burrow. I think we both

467
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: said we probably have him as the second guy we

468
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: trust the most behind the homes in a game. So

469
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't want cissy fans that feel like wee bashing

470
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: you guys here. It's just it's the question mark with Joe.

471
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: Could Joe stand the field and not take these unnecessary hits?

472
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 2: So don't mind it. She just towards the over right.

473
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: I love this team to win this division, love this

474
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: team towards third ten and a half over It's just

475
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: they're the most complete best team right now, and this

476
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: is the last year really feels like they can hold

477
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: it all together because you know they're gonna lose Tiaggans.

478
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna lose a bunch of guys, a couple of

479
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: guys in the defense next year. So this does feel

480
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: like this is it for the Cincinnati team.

481
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Joe Burrow question obviously is massive, and I

482
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: think it's why. It's almost like the bookmakers forgot Joe

483
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: Burrow was on the Bengals when they listed the Bengals

484
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: at eighteen to one to start the year, because that

485
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: got hit so quickly. Yeah, I mean we move markets

486
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: here at the favorites, and I'm glad we got it.

487
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: But look, there's one quarterback who has kept Patrick Mahomes

488
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: out of the Super Bowl, and it's Joe Burrow. And

489
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: I think what makes it a little bit scary is

490
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: the AFC is just loaded.

491
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: Right.

492
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: You look at the NFC, you'll bet on anyone, You'll

493
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: spray the field. We'll talk about this on Thursday. Because

494
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: nobody's dominant. You look at the AFC and the Bengals

495
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: could be dominant, dominant, the Ravens could be dominant, dominant,

496
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs could be dominant, and like, we're not even

497
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: talking about teams that have improved. So it's a it

498
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: is just a crap shoot. And yet we are going

499
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: to go all in on the Cincinnati Bengals. It's just

500
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: how we're going to do it. Baltimore Ravens. I don't

501
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: like anything about it.

502
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: It's Baltimore, gentlemen. The gods will not save you.

503
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: Eleven and a half wins, juice to the under Lamar

504
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: ten to one MVP. He's not going to repeat everything

505
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: about the Ravens right now is overinflated.

506
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean no shock or to any Ravens

507
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: fan or people that just know how we operate here.

508
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: But they're an easy team to fade this year. They've

509
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: lost so many good veterans from that team from the

510
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: previous season. They just haven't fish because the Lamar money's

511
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: kicking in, Like this is the They just paid him

512
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: a huge contract last year in the offseason, Like that's

513
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: a real thing. So Derek Henry's signing was cool, like

514
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: that's seeing him and Lamar together, that's really cool. But

515
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: I don't know how much better he is than some

516
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: other guy at his age with all those miles on

517
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: the tread like he's a great player, but he doesn't

518
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: really move the needle where you know, Eagles got Saquon

519
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: that that kind of moved the needle a little bit

520
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: more with the Eagles, where you know, Derrick Henry's cool,

521
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's that big of a deal. So, yeah,

522
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: easy team to bet for regression. You don't have to

523
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: do it. But I bet them to miss the playoffs.

524
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's one of my favorite bets, but

525
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: there's a couple of books out there. Two seventy five,

526
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: three hundred bet three sixty fives two sixty for them

527
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs. I like that value on this team.

528
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: Just would expect them being a hit away on Lamar

529
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: from their season just falling apart, and it's a guy

530
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: who you know, he had a couple of plays last

531
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: year he just got out of it and it's like

532
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: he's gonna get caught on one of these. And that's

533
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: definitely a team that you bet for aggression, especially in

534
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: that division. That they didn't have to face this really

535
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: dominant Joe Burrow team, even Pittsburgh in a game they

536
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: lost to them, it was like, that's just the Pittsburgh

537
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: style playing them. So there's just a couple couple of

538
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: ways they can get to the under the fact that

539
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 2: it's eleven and a half as well, Chad, that's that's

540
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: such a high wind total massive number, yes in that division.

541
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, the under again, you can you can bet

542
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: the misplayoffs with me, that wouldn't be my biggest bet,

543
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: the under eleven and a half. To me, that's a

544
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: position you take around this team.

545
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: Look, Derek Henry, to me, it's just not that much

546
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: of an impact because we know when push comes to

547
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: shove literally, the Ravens might not run the ball, because

548
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: look at what they did against the Chiefs, right like

549
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: they just decided.

550
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: Hope they learned from it. I mean you hope they

551
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: learned from But yeah, like even like we haven't talk

552
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: about they've lost coordinators, they've been stripped like that team

553
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: we saw with the Eagles last year, losing important coaches,

554
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: it just important players. It's a big deal. It's just

555
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: not all going to be roses like it was last

556
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: year for this this Baltimore team.

557
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: The most interesting team in this division. Cleveland Browns.

558
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: Dumb players do dumb things. Dumb players do dumb things.

559
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: Some of these guys got to get their head out

560
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: around here. Eight and a half wins, juice to the over,

561
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson eighty to one, most passing touchdowns. Look, this

562
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: defense is so freaking good, and then they would be terrible,

563
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: just terrible on the road. It was crazy but at

564
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: home one of the most dominant defenses ever on the

565
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: road one of the worst defenses ever. We saw that

566
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: play it play out in the playoffs. What do we

567
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: do about this team? What do we do about Deshaun

568
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Watson the same It's it's freaking groundhog day, dude. Like

569
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: we had the same exact conversation. Everything about this division

570
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: and the upside in this division and the ROI in

571
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: this division depends on what you believe about Deshaun Watson.

572
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're just a curse. There's just a curse franchise.

573
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no other way around it. Like the

574
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: bad luck they have no teams suffer like the Cleveland

575
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: Brown suffer. It's crazy. I mean, the only good, the

576
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: best game we've ever seen does Shaun Watson play was

577
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: when he was on an incredible amount of drugs against

578
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens in that second half where he was

579
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: down fourteen points. I think he went fifteen for fifteen

580
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: passing when he had a dislocated or broken collarbone. Yeah,

581
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: it's I don't know what to think here. I feel

582
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: like it's Watson is show in his head that it's

583
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: just been impossible for him to be the player he

584
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: used to be. Like when he's not clearly, when he's

585
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: not thinking, when he's whatever, he's incredible. Like we know

586
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: the talent's there, the talent's always been there. He just

587
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: has not looked like the Deshaun Watson of old. We

588
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: just he just hasn't. So there's No, I can't be

589
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: convinced on this one. Like last year, I was all

590
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: in on this team and I felt very fortunate to

591
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: hit their over and all that. But this year, I

592
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: just don't have the confidence in Deshaun Watson. I don't

593
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: know what he is, what I'm getting. And as once

594
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: you want to praise that defense, they have lost some

595
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: players off that defense. They're still gonna be really dominant,

596
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: but like, is that enough for them to win this division?

597
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: Is that enough for me? And you want to put

598
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: our money on it. It's just I can't get behind

599
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: it when we're so in love with Joe Burrow in

600
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: that team. So no real play for me on this

601
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: brownsing We'll pass.

602
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: I believe it's a pass. Pittsburgh, we like it at

603
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: eight wins. We're gonna wait because the juice is too

604
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: high at seven and a half, so that will be

605
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: a play. Cincinnati is a play at ten and a

606
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: half wins over it is juice to the over. We

607
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: feel like the value is gone in them going to

608
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: the winning the Super Bowl. That was at eighteen to one,

609
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: Now it's twelve to one. I would say we're making

610
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: a play on Baltimore under eleven and a half wins

611
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: to me, that feels like a definitive play. Yeah, okay,

612
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: and then the Browns were to pass right now? All right, Oh,

613
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: so far, so good. We're halfway through the AFC simon,

614
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631
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: next year. The Denver Broncos. They just burned us like

632
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: we were all in on Sean Payton. We were all

633
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: in on Russell Wilson. We were all in on the

634
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: over Yeah, we nearly got there, like, came so close

635
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: to getting there until Sean Payton decided I got to

636
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: get out of the Russell Wilson business and just bench

637
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: him at the end of the year. Now, what is

638
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: being described as the most arrogant move in the draft,

639
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: taking bo Nix, who most people had a second round

640
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: grade on and putting him at number twelve overall, That's

641
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: what Sean Payton did, basically putting tying his future to

642
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: bow Nick's success season win told right now five and

643
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: a half, five to one to make the playoffs, Sean

644
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: Payton twenty eight to one to win Coach of the Year.

645
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: Someone's got to be bad in this division.

646
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're an easy pick, just about the under don't

647
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: overthink it. I mean they're bad. And like you say, said,

648
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: total total eagle move. Taking bone Knicks at that pick.

649
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: You know, he's either going to look like a genius

650
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: or he's just slowly, slowly getting rid of all of

651
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: his good karm. He built the words career Drew Brees,

652
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: and he's going from being one of the best minds

653
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: of football to kind of turn into a joke. So yeah,

654
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: just a year of rebuilding for Denver. Like you're expecting

655
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: to be bad this year. I have a ton of

656
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: dead money on the cap. It's just he'll be bad

657
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: in this division. I'm with Chad. I have him as

658
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: the fourth worst team. So, like like the ender of

659
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: five and a half.

660
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: It's such a bummer because I love Sean Pitton. I

661
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: love him as a coach. I love the stories I've

662
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: heard about him. He seems like an incredible hang he.

663
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: I think he's obviously a brilliant football coach. I want

664
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: this to work for him so badly. I want bone

665
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: Nicks to be great. I want him to prove everybody wrong.

666
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: I'd almost bet this and then rooted against it, just

667
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: because I'm such a huge Sean Payton fan. But golly gee,

668
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: this team is in some serious roster turmoil right now.

669
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes people feel better. I have them at

670
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: four and a half win, so like this is this

671
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: is definitely a bigger edge I have is a full

672
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: full game, So five and a half is feels like

673
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: it's pretty pretty heavy.

674
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: That's good, intel, Yeah, that's how much of an edge

675
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: did you have? On the other totals we've bet with

676
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: the other plays we've made New England, was it five

677
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: and a half? What was your edge there?

678
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's another one. Like again, it's rare to

679
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: get over a game or half a game of an edge,

680
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: you know, where there's always gonna be that those rare unicorns,

681
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: which again we'll bring up and talk about, but like

682
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: that Ram six and a half last year, I had

683
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: them at eight and a half, like two games. It's

684
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: rare you get that big of an edge because it

685
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: is so heavily opinion based, like betting these kind of markets, right,

686
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: Like you know, the books can try to build off

687
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: last season, but it really is that they put the

688
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: numbers out and they let the market dictate where they're

689
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: going to move these numbers. So yeah, rare do you

690
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: get over a game of value just because the professionals

691
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: are so sharp they don't need that much meat on

692
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: the bone.

693
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Sure, But like I'm assuming every game that we've talked about,

694
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: you've got a half a game to a game in right.

695
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, now, if I give it a picture, it's

696
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: right now. Whenever I'm giving out it's a game edge.

697
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, God, yeah, we're.

698
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Better necessarily need I need a big edge to bet that.

699
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: We bet New England under five and a half. You

700
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: got him at four and a half, four and a half, Jets,

701
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: you got him at ten and a half. We liked

702
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: him at nine and a half. Cincinnati ten and a half.

703
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: I guess you like him at eleven and.

704
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: A half and actually have them at you could literally

705
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: they're almost at twelve. It was like eleven seven to five,

706
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: so oh interesting, Yeah about being twelve.

707
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Baltimore under eleven and a half, you probably have them

708
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: at ten and a half, and Denver you've got at

709
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: four and a half. So Can't City.

710
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: They are a mature, physically powerful squad with a special

711
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: confidence that allows them to reach for heroism instead of

712
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: merely trying to avoid mistakes.

713
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Can't City eleven and a half wins? Of course we

714
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: want to bet the under, and of course we're not

715
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: going to because it's Patrick Mahomes and we just don't know.

716
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: And they finally got a receiver and Xavier Worthy, who

717
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: everyone thinks can be that field stretcher with good hands

718
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: that they were missing last year, and they still won

719
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: the freaking Super Bowl.

720
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Mahomes the whole all of it's crazy.

721
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: Like as much as like even we were talking about Brain,

722
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about he's the goat. He never had had

723
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: to deal with the kind of shit that Mahomes deals

724
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: with on the offseason, like his brother's getting arrested for assault,

725
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: his dad's getting DUIs, and this dude's performing the highest

726
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: level you can be in the same week in the

727
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. It's he's just there's nothing that can shake

728
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: this dude. Like that season last year was a season

729
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: from hell and they flipped their season went on this

730
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: in sand and run and the hardest mathematically you look

731
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: through the data, it's the hardest schedule hardsh run ever

732
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl. To win a Super Bowl like

733
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: that was arguably the greatest run we've ever seen from

734
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: how tough of a road they had to go through

735
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: right on the road all those games they won. So yeah,

736
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: if you like the Chiefs over eleven and a half,

737
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: you can bet it. It's to be juiced. What a

738
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: lot of people like to do, a lot of pros

739
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: like to do is take them where, Like say, I

740
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: love the Eagles this year to win the division. It's

741
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: one of my favorite bets. You just pair them with

742
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to win the division like that they might

743
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: be minus two to twenty five minus two thirty at

744
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: most books right now to win this division. I mean,

745
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna get into it. But like, the only team

746
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: you have any type of fear at all with are

747
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: the Chargers, and that is so small. The fear is

748
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: so small because they're in a rebuilding mode, like they're not.

749
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: This ain't going to be a quick turnaround, right Chargers.

750
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: The next year is a real turnaround here. But if

751
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: Benny team's gonna shock the world, it would be them,

752
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: just because we have the type of respect for Harball

753
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: and obviously Herbert at the quarterback position. So the Chiefs,

754
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: I got them at minus three fifty minus four hundred,

755
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: Like I love them for their division. So if you're

756
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: looking for my favorite we've had division wise, it's the Chiefs.

757
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 2: Like they're far above the best team, the most complete

758
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: team in this division. The fact that it's still under

759
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: two fifty at most books. I love that value. So

760
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: if you want to parlay them with another team to

761
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: cut down that juice, I get it, but got no

762
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: issue betting this one straight. I just I love this

763
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs to win this division.

764
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Well, look, it's amazing how quickly things change. Right two

765
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: seasons ago, when the Chargers had Herbert and had gone

766
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and Broncos had just signed Russell Wilson,

767
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: and the Raiders were being the Raiders who.

768
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, when got DeVante Adams the parent with Derek Car.

769
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: They had DeVante Adams and Derek Carr. We were talking

770
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: about the AFC West is the best division in football.

771
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: We were talking about the Chiefs as being a team

772
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: that had reached its peak, and all they've done since

773
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: then has went to straight Super Bowls, and the rest

774
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: of the division has fallen off such a freaking cliff

775
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: that the Broncos are under five and a half. The

776
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: Raiders their season to win total is six and a half.

777
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: The autumn win is a Raider pillaging.

778
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Just for fun.

779
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I would take the Raiders under six and a half

780
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: right now, and it's juice to the over.

781
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: So I would say, you're I know a lot of

782
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: pros who love the over.

783
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Really, why, Yeah, that's.

784
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: A pros Joe's game. I'm with you, like I wanted

785
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: to take under, and the professionals love this Raiders to

786
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: the to the over. They got a lot of guys

787
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: I talked to have them at eight wins, which I

788
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: was shocked, so I have him at six. So I

789
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: had him half a game to the under. So I

790
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: would tell listeners of other show just stay away, like

791
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: there's just something off about that long because usually in

792
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: the pros like a team like this and I'm like, well,

793
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: you're just Vegas bias. It's like, no, it's a lot

794
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: of the guys I know they're up here in the Northeast.

795
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 2: That are the ones that are hitting it so pretty interesting.

796
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: They love Antonio Pierce. I don't know. Maybe they believe

797
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: in the Minshew magic. I just I've seen enough of

798
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: I just can't get behind it. I just can't do it.

799
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: So I'll stay away from that one. But I'm with you,

800
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: jim My gut instinct was like pound this team under,

801
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: but I'm going to pass on it.

802
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Well, look, the Raiders did something that no other team

803
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: since the Raiders and before them, no other team since

804
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders had done draft quarterback or draft tight ends

805
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: back to.

806
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Back in the draft.

807
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: So they signed Christian Wilkins. That's great. So they got

808
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: Max Crosby and Christian Wilkins on the defensive line. Gardner

809
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: Minshew was great last year because Shane Steiken made him great.

810
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Like that was a testament in so many

811
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: different ways as a football fan. You saw how brilliant

812
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken was. You saw it, and how Jalen Hurts struggled.

813
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: You saw it and how the Eagles struggled. You saw

814
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: it on how Anthony Richardson was playing in control with

815
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: accuracy and athleticism before he was injured. And then you

816
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: saw it in the way Gardner Minshew was un Gardner

817
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: Minshew like in how often he would throw the ball away.

818
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: He was great. He had a great year and it

819
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: got him a really nice year with the Raiders. Antonio

820
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: Pierce is not the offensive genius and the strategic genius

821
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: for the offensive side of the ball that Shane Stykeen is.

822
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: He's great motivationally, he's great Tom type.

823
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: He just finds me of Tomlin.

824
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: What what? Yeah, like he's going to win. By the way,

825
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: that could be why the pros like the Raiders. There

826
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: could be two games, right and and look, the AFC

827
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: West is not very good, so maybe you steal a

828
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: game from the Chargers, maybe you steal two games from

829
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: the Broncos.

830
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: And play the Chiefs hard.

831
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Right, So all of a sudden, you're three games towards

832
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: needing to win seven, and you got a lot of

833
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: opportunities now with with there being more games to play.

834
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: So I guess I could see the math, but I

835
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: don't like it. Pass pass La Chargers eight and a

836
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: half wins juiced to the over Harbaugh five point fifty

837
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: to be Coach of the Year. I believe that is

838
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: the shortest odds minus one of five to make the playoffs.

839
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Harba's magic hoop, Like his teams don't

840
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: take the year to regroup, Like his team's just played

841
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: well the exact year that he gets there. They just

842
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: do yeah.

843
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: And he's he's stepping into like a team that felt

844
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: like they haven't had a real coach since Marty Schottenhei,

845
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: Like it's been a long time since the Chargers have

846
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: had a good, yeah coach. It's bad, Like I want

847
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: to believe it, but it's another one I'm just gonna

848
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: pass for right now. But I just I'm not trying

849
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 2: to get sucked into the hype because this this will

850
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: be by far the best coaching Herbert's ever had in

851
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: his life. Like this man he is a great coach.

852
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: He is a psychopath. He is living in an RV

853
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: outside the stadium right now, and God bless his poor wife.

854
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: She knew what she signed up for when she married

855
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: the man. But man, like, I can't imagine being married

856
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: to this guy living next to the stadium in an

857
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: R and B. He's just one of the kinds. I

858
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: truly love him, so yes, the human side of me

859
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: wants to slam this over. I love everything about it.

860
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: The pro of me is like this team they're they're

861
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: just like the Raiders, Like they're equally as terrible just

862
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 2: because they have Herbert. I want to give them that benefit.

863
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: But it's like the rest of their team is so

864
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: bad right now, Like they have so many aging veterans

865
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: that they've gotten rid of and moved on from. And

866
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: you know, going from Keenan Allen to whatever they're going

867
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: to now is going to shock Herbert like he's never

868
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: been shocked before. Like the safety valve that Keenan Allen

869
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: was on third downs, there's nothing like it, Like there's

870
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, five six other guys in the NFL that

871
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: can do what keen Allen does on given routes, Like

872
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 2: there's just no one better setting people up and getting open.

873
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: So Chad's right, like, I want to get I want

874
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: to get on this one. I'm gonna pass for right now.

875
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: But don't be shocked in August fun talk about taking

876
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: this team on there just there's just there's just too

877
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: much love for this team. This this overfeels too high

878
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: for a team that's just in a rebuild mode.

879
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: Do' not living in an RV as someone who's spent

880
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: five straight spring breaks traveling in an RV with his family,

881
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: caravanning with another family in an RV, no joke. The

882
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: greatest family vacation memories I've ever had.

883
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: I can smell it. I don't even know what it

884
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: smells like. Smells like ballooney kind of, I don't know.

885
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's freaking terrible.

886
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: I can imagine it's it's so awful.

887
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: Every time we walk into this RV, my wife look

888
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: at me, she goes, what are we fucking doing? Every

889
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: single and yet we went for it every single time

890
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: we did it. We freaking loved it great. It was

891
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 1: so funny, the greatest memories. There's nothing better than that.

892
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: For like, we'd all get T shirts. The Milman Rosenberg

893
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: our v family trip. Then we'd have to date and

894
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: we'd all walk into Walmart with the T shirts on

895
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: and we're pushing our carts and then we are loading

896
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: up the RVs and we are raring to go.

897
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: Delete this man, Mitchell, please.

898
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: It is honestly the best vacation I ever had. AFC South,

899
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: the division no one cares about ever. Tennessee Titans, a

900
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: team that is so on the decline. I couldn't tell

901
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: you anything good they've done this offseason. Six and a

902
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: half wins, Expectations so low it's juice to the under

903
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: thirty five to one to go winless. Oh, poor Will Levis.

904
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 2: I won't believe this, but I actually love Tennessee. They're

905
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: a super sleeper. If they're just a classic team of

906
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: if this kid Will Levis can all of a sudden

907
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: become a good quarterback, they could easily shock the world

908
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 2: and win this division and be a really good team.

909
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: That's just how this division works, where it's like they're

910
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: all kind of good and they all kind of suck

911
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: at the same time. And now that you know CJ's

912
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: come in, he might be. But we thought trebl Larns

913
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: was going to be which is the big dog who's

914
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: going to run this division now for ten fifteen years.

915
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: But football hasn't usually worked that way, Like CJ could

916
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: be that dude. He takes a huge step or now

917
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: the book's out on him and he is an insane

918
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: year of a regression And that's the way I kind

919
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: of look at it. So starting off with Tennessee, I'm

920
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: not going to do anything here, people, we'll pass on

921
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 2: this for right now. But don't be betting this under

922
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: don't be looking at this team as just this awful team,

923
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 2: Like this is a team that if the beat Riders

924
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: are giving it a ton of love. And Will Levis

925
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: has rid through these TV coaches this offseason. It works

926
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: on his therm mechanics and kind of learns their offense more.

927
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: They did make a big move, kind of touched over it.

928
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: They brought in Cleveland's offensive line coach, which does sound

929
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: like that big of a deal. No, you're right, he's

930
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: one of the best lines on football, Like, and they've

931
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: drafted offensive line, like they've done a bunch of stuff

932
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, they're taking steps here to improve.

933
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, just as we say here right now, right

934
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: it's I don't want to tell people to bet this

935
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: over six and a half because I do need to

936
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: see improvement before I put any type of money on

937
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: this Tennessee team.

938
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: Look, it's a lot of faith in Will Levis, It's

939
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in Brian and Brian Callahan, who's

940
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: the new head coach. He was the coordinator in Cincy.

941
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: He didn't call plays in Sincy. Zach Taylor called the plays,

942
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: but the key which you just mentioned, Bill Callahan, Brian

943
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: Callahan Callahan, Yes, Brian Callahan's father is considered the greatest

944
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: offensive line coach in NFL history. He's known as the

945
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: guy who took over the Raiders from John Gruden and

946
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: took them to the Super Bowl where they lost with

947
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: which Cannon as the quarterback to John Gruden in the Bucks.

948
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: But he has made a career the past twenty years

949
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: of being a brilliant offensive line coach who like teams

950
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: get him and they are immediately better. So you're right,

951
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. I don't think I'm ready to

952
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: buy in because he got a new head coach and

953
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback who really just his best play was chucked.

954
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: And but there is optimism for the offensive line I

955
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: think they.

956
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: Know they fit the bill of a team that could

957
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: be twelve wins and win this division, or two wins

958
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: and Will Lovis is done. They're already drafting a new

959
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: quarterback next year.

960
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: You know how I feel about infrastructure. I like to

961
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: bill from the inside out. I'm a huge fan of

962
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: building from the offensive line. Jacksonville a team that so

963
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: disappointed us last year. Trevor Lawrence so disappointed us. We

964
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: thought he was ready, We thought he was taking that

965
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: next step forward. We thought he had found the touch

966
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Turns out he kind of didn't

967
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: do anything. He took a step back, didn't have any

968
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: touch in the red zone. Doug Peterson and him did

969
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: not find the magic that we thought would be there.

970
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: With great coach, offensive great talent, I think they've been

971
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: lapped in the division, certainly by Houston. Eight and a

972
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: half wins is the total? Give me your take care.

973
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I there's some pros. You love it because they

974
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: think they're buying a loan Trevor Lawrence, who was injured

975
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: the second half of the season, and that's just why

976
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: this team kind of fell apart. But I don't know.

977
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 2: I'm with chat. I'm a little burned by this team

978
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: just because it's it's all it was all there and

979
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: they did have a total meltdown, and it is it

980
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: is Trevor Lawrence's fault. Like at the end of the day,

981
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: it does fall on this kid and he has not

982
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: lived up to expectations yet. And you know, you should

983
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: keep on improving and wouldn't be shocked if they go

984
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: over this wintil eight and a half and they do

985
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: win this division. But Jeah's right, I got no interest

986
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: in this team right now. I'm gonna pass on everything.

987
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: I just I'm not into them. But they do feel

988
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: their price correctly where it's like, are they the first

989
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: third best team or who are they in this division?

990
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: No one really knows, because I don't know what the

991
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: hell they are. But yeah, eight and a half by

992
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: the books, that's a good number for them to put

993
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: out there, just because that's what they are. They're a

994
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: five hundred team right now in a really tough division.

995
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: Kind of a classic AFC South team, non ascript, no

996
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: players anyone cares about, no passion for anything that they're doing,

997
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: no real interest in them from the national media. They

998
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: are the epitome of an a C South team. Meanwhile,

999
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: I do think the Indianapolis Colts are primed. Yep, like

1000
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen fourteen to one Coach of the Year, gimme

1001
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: eight and a half wins, juiced to the under, gimme

1002
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: the over like they were they were on the cusp

1003
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. Kudos to you, Flowers for Simon. You were

1004
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: all over Richardson. He was the real deal before he

1005
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: got injured. And that team, to me, when it comes

1006
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: to the AFC South, they're thet the competition to the Texans,

1007
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: not anybody else.

1008
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: It's scary that me and Chat are so locked in

1009
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: step here. This could be my dumbest bet then because

1010
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm with Chat, I like this one just feels so easy.

1011
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: I love it. They to me have the best coach

1012
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 2: right now in the division with a ton of upside.

1013
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: Like I just I love this team in so many

1014
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: different ways. And you know, I could be convinced on

1015
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Houston obviously for a multiple, multiple tude of reasons, but

1016
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: there's just no value there where the Colts team feel

1017
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: like the value team because they're kind of, you know,

1018
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: not the third team in this division, but it feels

1019
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: that way a little bit. It feels like most people

1020
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: have the Jaguars above them just because Anthony Richardson is

1021
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: so unproven right now, which is fair. But yeah, if

1022
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: we're going long shots, that are a fun team that

1023
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: I really like. Cults are one of my favorite teams.

1024
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: Like they're over winning. Eight and a half is their

1025
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: win total. I'm gonna bet that no child will bet that.

1026
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: You want to bet them to win the division right now?

1027
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: Plus three twenty at bet three sixty five, why not?

1028
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: Like we just I like this team. I do think

1029
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: Andrew Richardson's is gonna get so much better just from

1030
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: last year to this year, just because he's going to

1031
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: be working on his arm and throwing this whole offseason.

1032
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: Like I've already read stuff about him working and throwing

1033
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: and learning the offense and everything like that. So yeah,

1034
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: a team that me and Chad will not be shocked

1035
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: if we are just burned severely by this team by

1036
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: the time we get to January. But there's just so

1037
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: much to love here. There's so much untapped potential on

1038
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: this team with high upside. Richardson another guy the professionals love.

1039
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: Like I talked to a bunch of pros they slammed

1040
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: him at sixty to one, fifty to one to be MVP.

1041
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: I've seen some books now showing him at forty one

1042
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: thirty to one to be MVP Anthony Richardson. That's pretty

1043
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: crazy to think his numbers moved that much. So definitely

1044
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: a team that professionals love.

1045
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: Sam and I find when you and I are together,

1046
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: things go, well, yeah, if.

1047
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: It's not the Bears, I'm just getting the Bears vibe

1048
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: here where it's like we're loving this young team with

1049
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 2: good upside. It's just keep I keep having that fear

1050
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: where it's like you can't. I can't tell you how

1051
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: many people Chad I talked to before the season. We're

1052
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: diehard Green Bay fans that were like, you're making a

1053
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: huge mistake. Don't let Chad suck you in. Green Bay

1054
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: is the team you want to back, Like again Detroit,

1055
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: we all knew they were really good, but they were like,

1056
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: the Bears are the sleepers. Green Bay's the sleepers. And

1057
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you don't get it. Justin Field

1058
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: is gone the difference, but egg on my face he

1059
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 2: went over too against Green Bay and same old he's

1060
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: gone now, so again we can move on. But that's

1061
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 2: my fear here with the Colts, where it's like I

1062
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: don't want to be doing another Barriscenaria here. I'm just

1063
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: we're just so in love with this quarterback, this incredible

1064
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: athlete at the quarterback position.

1065
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: Once again, I think the key difference here is we

1066
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: love the coach. I love the coach more than I

1067
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: love the quarterback. I just think the guy is brilliant.

1068
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: And we saw so much evidence of that last year.

1069
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: Houston nine and a half wins minus one, fifty to

1070
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: the over. Everything here is inflated. Strout ten to one, MVP,

1071
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl sixteen to one, Will Anderson thirty to one

1072
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: DPOI I'm passing on everything to do with the Texans

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the be we're supposed to make is the under,

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00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: but what's the rush? People should keep hitting this, you know,

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Speaker 2: I love the digs moves. Like the one year rental

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00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: of Stefan Diggs on this team. I love it. Like

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Speaker 2: the guy might be a psychopath and a bum for

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Speaker 2: all we know, but on field, when he's producing, he's

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00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: one of the best receivers in football. Like, the guy

1081
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: is incredible. He just totally fell off the map last year.

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00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: And then you know, cost the Bills dearly in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he is a huge ego maniac. He doesn't

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00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: want that to be his legacy. Like this guy's out

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00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: for blood as well. That's why they kind of gave

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00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: him a one year deal, like they bought the years

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00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: out of his contract to be like not approve it year.

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00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 2: But it kind of is for Digs. So for Houston's

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00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: GMS and everything they've done this offseason, they're one of

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00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: my favorite teams, like what they've done this offseason. But

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00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: Chad's so right, like, as a pro, this is I'm

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00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: supposed to go the other way in this one, and

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00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: I am. I'll be first to admit it. I am

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00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: scared to bet it, just because I do have that

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00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 2: much respect for cg and what he's put on tape

1096
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: and everything I've done. The organization wise this offseason has

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00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: been amazing. Like I just I love the moves Houston's made,

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00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 2: so it pains me. I really want to hit this over.

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00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 2: But in this division, in the AFC, this just feels

1100
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: like it's just too much, like the value is just

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00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: not there anymore. So I'm with Chad here. I want

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00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: to take the under butt. I'm happy to wait, let

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00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: this get to ten hopefully and take the under one

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00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: when it does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to get to ten. Like there's it's

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00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: there's too much excitement, and we.

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00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: See because pros do. Pros have been heading this under

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00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: so well, because the public does love the over.

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Speaker 1: But when we get into when we get into the

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00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: preseason and there's more activity and it's not just pros

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00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: playing these this thing is going to skyrocket because people

1112
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: are only thinking about CJ. Shroud, Stefan Diggs, Will Anderson

1113
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what people are going to look forward to.

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Speaker 1: That's when we can hit the ten. Uh, no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it. I believe that fascinating team. But the Colds,

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00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: to me, that's where the value lies right now in

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Speaker 1: the AOC South. Okay, here's our place, So everything everything

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00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: else is a pass for right now. Again, we're going

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Speaker 1: to move deeper into the off season. We will do

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Speaker 1: the division by division previews beginning in August. We also

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Speaker 1: are going to have Warren Sharp on the podcast at

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00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: the end of the month after we have the schedule release.

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Speaker 1: One of our favorite things is like Warren Sharp analyzing

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00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: the value of rest in the schedule, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to know more about sort of the road these teams

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00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: face once we get the schedule release, and Warren is

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00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: going to come out and talk about that. Our plays

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Speaker 1: right now, New England under five and a half, New

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: York Jets over nine and a half. These are season

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Speaker 1: win totals. The Cincinnati Bengals over ten and a half.

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00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: Don't forget Simon and I already bet the Bengals eighteen

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00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: to one to win the Super Bowl. There are now

1133
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: about twelve to one. We like Baltimore under eleven and

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00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: a half wins. We like the Denver Broncos under five

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00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: and a half wins. We like Case to win the division.

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00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: And then we like a lot of stuff about Indy.

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00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: We like eight and a half over. I would take

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00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: Shane Stike and four team to one coach of the year.

1139
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: We would take Indy a plus three twenty to win

1140
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: the division. We're all over.

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00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: The Colts love it.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the Colts got roasted by Tom Brady. Did

1143
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:19,280
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