WEBVTT - Draft Show: Vision of the Future

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<v Speaker 1>Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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<v Speaker 1>for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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<v Speaker 1>confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco.

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<v Speaker 2>Today is Wednesday, January sixteenth, and we are now officially

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine days from the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome into the Draft Show for the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, presented by Miller Lte. We will be

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<v Speaker 2>here twice a week from here on out. Unfortunately a

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<v Speaker 2>couple weeks early, but we're here.

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<v Speaker 3>Nonetheless, you think you're so funny, don't you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety nine days? I looked that up this morning and

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<v Speaker 2>I had a mini heart attack myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I will mention that it's January seventeenth and not sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>What it's I say, sixteenth, It's okay. It's Wednesday, January yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in the Draft Show. Nick's already cut off. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got Zach Wolchuk, Nick Harris, the Great, Brian brought us

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<v Speaker 2>Ayisha Morrison, I'm Kyle Yeomen's Chris Beame in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have Bobby Belt in the rotation as well

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the Draft Show here this season and his draft.

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<v Speaker 5>Season, so we will have all those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But Brian, it's always, uh, it's always bittersweet to be

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<v Speaker 2>back in here because one we're getting the talk draft season,

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<v Speaker 2>but two, it means the Cowboys season has come to

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<v Speaker 2>a close.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's usually the way things work. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you felt like that maybe that you'd have a couple

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<v Speaker 6>more opportunities to to kind of see this football team play,

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<v Speaker 6>but it really is you know, all year long. They

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<v Speaker 6>have your season, but the scouts are working on the draft,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and we just pick it up. We we

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<v Speaker 6>cover the season and then we try and catch up

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<v Speaker 6>with the scouts and what's going on.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, this is the way, you know, this

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<v Speaker 7>is the way you make your team better. You go

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<v Speaker 7>out and you evaluate. We always talk about in the show.

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<v Speaker 6>We educate and investigate are the two things that we

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<v Speaker 6>do here and so, you know, looking forward to doing

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<v Speaker 6>that with all you It's always a fun time of

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<v Speaker 6>the year for me because I lived this, this has

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<v Speaker 6>been my life and I'm so happy that I have

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<v Speaker 6>teammates here that have a passion for it as well.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's I think what makes this show so great

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<v Speaker 6>is the camaraderie, but the discussion about these players and

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<v Speaker 6>how to make not only the Dallas Cowboys better, but

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<v Speaker 6>we have fans from all over the country that watched

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<v Speaker 6>this show and learn about players, so we welcome you

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<v Speaker 6>as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't wade and it's always a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>The more you dive into the draft process, and I

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<v Speaker 2>usual got her first taste of it last year, Zach

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<v Speaker 2>got his first official taste of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Nick, you're the rookie of the show this time around.

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<v Speaker 2>So the deeper you get into it, the more fans

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the learning, and the more learning that's had on

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<v Speaker 2>our side as well. Investigate and educate all day every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nick, you've you've been around a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>prospects from the recruit root trail. Excited to see how

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of bring that extra taste into it on

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<v Speaker 2>the draft side too.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, me too, just kind of give everybody some perspective

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<v Speaker 4>on where I come from. I started working for the

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<v Speaker 4>Dallas Cowboys. This was the first day, was the first

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<v Speaker 4>day of the draft for me last year. So while

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<v Speaker 4>I was getting everything since you wait to give him

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<v Speaker 4>my hr paperwork in, I was watching you guys trying

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<v Speaker 4>to handle who's going to get trapped in the first round.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, this is my first time going through the

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<v Speaker 4>draft process with you guys. Where I came from, I

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<v Speaker 4>was covering college football recruiting for four to five years

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<v Speaker 4>with twenty four seven Sports and Rivals. My last two

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<v Speaker 4>years was with Rivals as a national analyst. So whenever

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<v Speaker 4>you see those high school kids get the stars, put

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<v Speaker 4>on them three, four or five star. I was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the seven guys that was doing that nationwide. So

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<v Speaker 4>whenever one of these two stars gets drafted in the

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<v Speaker 4>first round, I'm the one you can come to and

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<v Speaker 4>be like, you're stupid so looking forward to it?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I can't wait for that. That's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well I was going to be a three star

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<v Speaker 2>in the first round and we're real look at Nave

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, what were you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I will say twenty twenty six draft is when my

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<v Speaker 4>evails will start coming around. So I'll save the BEA

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<v Speaker 4>for that. We'll save the be for that.

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<v Speaker 7>That's awesome. I issue year number two.

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<v Speaker 5>How is it different for you this time around?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, if I'm being human and being very honest, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>not nearly as nervous as I was. It's it's this

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<v Speaker 9>is not an easy feat coming up here, and Brian

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<v Speaker 9>used to tell me, like, you can't fake it doing this,

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<v Speaker 9>and so the you know the work that you have

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<v Speaker 9>to put in to be precise with it, and people

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<v Speaker 9>will hold your feet to the fire.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and you guys will too.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think coming into this season, I'm far more

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<v Speaker 9>just comfortable being with you guys, because I know you

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<v Speaker 9>at this point, and as far as the process goes,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm just learning to I can trust myself more, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>because I have done it, and so now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 9>I trust my eyes and we can go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm excited. That's actually I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's be pumped up the fact that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>into your number two and you already feel that comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>like and you're back into your rhythm that you already

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<v Speaker 2>had last year, and I think everybody can speak to

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<v Speaker 2>you did a phenomenal job and your number one, your

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<v Speaker 2>number two is going to be even better.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 7>I will say this, The anxiety never goes away, That's true,

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<v Speaker 7>it never really does.

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<v Speaker 6>But I mean because like you say, you're you feel responsible,

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<v Speaker 6>you really do, and especially when you're sitting in that

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<v Speaker 6>chair across the hall up there when you're drafting players,

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<v Speaker 6>you feel responsible for what's going out there, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's the great thing about it. And you you

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<v Speaker 6>your your missus uh resonate with you more than your makes.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's nice when people remind you about the makes though,

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<v Speaker 6>because that's that makes you feel a little bit better

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<v Speaker 6>about the job you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens every once in a while you'll get one

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like, hey, you have this guy right, appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>all the insight.

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<v Speaker 5>But more often than.

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<v Speaker 2>Not, it's why did you guys have this guy so

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<v Speaker 2>high or why did you have it so low?

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<v Speaker 5>And it always turns into that Zak you had that

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<v Speaker 5>a couple times last year.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, Yoshivash ended up making me look pretty good.

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<v Speaker 10>Princeton kid from Bengals.

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<v Speaker 7>I got a cup.

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<v Speaker 10>But then yeah, there were some you know, Emmanuel Forbes.

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<v Speaker 10>I think we were all high on and I definitely

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<v Speaker 10>got the gotch. You guys loved Emmanuel Forbes. Look at

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<v Speaker 10>me getting benched over there in Washington, what do you know?

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<v Speaker 10>But hey, it's part of the process, and I don't

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<v Speaker 10>think that you can go ahead and just write a

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<v Speaker 10>kid off after a rookie season. Though, I know we'll

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<v Speaker 10>talk about that with some of the Cowboys from this

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<v Speaker 10>past draft as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot to dive into. I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the recent reaction though, with the way

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<v Speaker 2>that the season ended.

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<v Speaker 5>You give up.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty to forty eight points, almost had forty two. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>giving six points to this Dallas defense, forty eight points

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<v Speaker 2>in the wildcard round to Green Bay. You fall forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight to thirty two. You get bounced in a round

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<v Speaker 2>that you anticipated to win. And things really do change

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<v Speaker 2>on a dime. I mean, one week we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Mike McCarthy and extensions and everything that can happen there.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan Quinn's a shoeing.

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<v Speaker 2>For head coaching jobs around the league, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden you put a halt on him, really

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<v Speaker 2>every conversation, and you don't know what the future of

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<v Speaker 2>this franchise really looks like, Brian when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the draft and really the team's perspective, how much can

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<v Speaker 2>things change just over the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>It can change quite a bit, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And now everybody goes they'll have their meetings, they've dismissed

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<v Speaker 6>the team, you know, the coaching staff, you'll get everything

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<v Speaker 6>kind of squared up with see what happens with DQ

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<v Speaker 6>in his interviews. You know, you have to maybe prepare

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<v Speaker 6>for him being gone. Do you have to get a

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<v Speaker 6>different defensive coordinator? Does that change the philosophy? Is there

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<v Speaker 6>a coordinator coming from the outside. If that's the case,

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<v Speaker 6>is he a four three three four? You know, does

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<v Speaker 6>he mesh with what we're trying to do. Dan was

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<v Speaker 6>really involved with personnel, and so if Dan were to

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<v Speaker 6>move on, now you're trying to think, okay, well all

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<v Speaker 6>those players that we really watched all year that Dan

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<v Speaker 6>really liked. Now where someone else might come in here

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<v Speaker 6>and say, well, this is a type of player I want,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, And that's the tough thing on scouts.

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<v Speaker 7>They have to go back now and.

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<v Speaker 6>Bring back potential players that they might not have liked

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<v Speaker 6>or graded well enough.

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<v Speaker 7>For the team. But you have a new defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 6>So any type of tweak with the coaching staff could

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<v Speaker 6>be a little bit of a stress on your scouting staff.

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<v Speaker 2>How much does that put a pressure on adential hire

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<v Speaker 2>coming in because there's already an infrastructure laid from the

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<v Speaker 2>draft picks you've made from the roster that's been put

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<v Speaker 2>on the field recently. But Nick, whenever you look at

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even potential candidates, whether it's at head coach or

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<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator, how much does that put a pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>them to come in and immediately either change or keep

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<v Speaker 2>things the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think there's going to have to be a

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<v Speaker 4>pressure to change, right because if they're brought in, they're

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<v Speaker 4>brought in to change. That's what kind of the whole

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<v Speaker 4>conversations are this week about. You know, how much change

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<v Speaker 4>do you want to instill on the cornerstones of this roster,

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<v Speaker 4>the cornerstones of this team. And I think if someone's

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<v Speaker 4>brought in to do that, then they're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to do that, especially considering when you look at it

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<v Speaker 4>from a draft perspective, what the twenty twenty three draft

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<v Speaker 4>class put on the table this last season. Being able

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<v Speaker 4>to have a successful twenty four class, I think there's

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<v Speaker 4>even more pressure on that. Whether that be for a

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<v Speaker 4>first guy or the guys that are already here, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that would be the equal pressure in that sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it really does change things pretty quickly. But how

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<v Speaker 2>did it change your perspective on the way that this

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<v Speaker 2>roster's been the way that they were bounced out of

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<v Speaker 2>that wild card round and really dismantled by Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, yeah, I think that, and really I don't

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<v Speaker 9>want to upset anybody, but listen, this league is ever changing, evolving.

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<v Speaker 9>I feel like I personally felt like the big nickel

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<v Speaker 9>in the way that it's been used and just kind

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<v Speaker 9>of with some of the things they do on the

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<v Speaker 9>defensive side of the ball has been really good for

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<v Speaker 9>this system. But I do think, just like every other

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<v Speaker 9>thing in football, at some point in time, people figure

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<v Speaker 9>some stuff out, they figure how to counter it, and

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<v Speaker 9>I think this is year three, four, whichever year it is.

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<v Speaker 9>I think some defenses, I mean, because it would be

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<v Speaker 9>different if it was just like one or two times,

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<v Speaker 9>but every time that you got beat, it was people

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<v Speaker 9>attacking that part of your defense. And so to me,

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<v Speaker 9>I do think there's some changes that have to be

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<v Speaker 9>made or some it's okay to take a step back

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<v Speaker 9>and also to reevaluate to see if you need to

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<v Speaker 9>change some things or how you can adjust.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, it's like if there's a new coordinator

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<v Speaker 3>coming in.

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<v Speaker 9>I thought Brian made a really good point about even

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<v Speaker 9>looking at some of the players. Now, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 9>don't know the foundation of what this defense might look

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<v Speaker 9>like next year, as opposed to we went into last

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<v Speaker 9>year looking at for as like this is a ballhawk guy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>press all that lengthy corner. That's the prototype for what

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<v Speaker 9>you know, this defensive staff likes or that side of

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<v Speaker 9>the ball. But now you're like, well, man like, if

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<v Speaker 9>there's a philosophy change, what is the foundation? And so

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<v Speaker 9>I do think it also puts some not pressure on us,

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<v Speaker 9>but it does change how we even attack this show,

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<v Speaker 9>I think at this point. So now for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>just like, if there's changes that need to be necessary,

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<v Speaker 9>I need them to go ahead, and you know, decide.

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<v Speaker 5>To do that.

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<v Speaker 9>But I'm I'm just being honest, man like, because the

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<v Speaker 9>way that you lost in these games was because of

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<v Speaker 9>not that side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>To me get out of it, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think there's a really good point to make on the

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<v Speaker 4>defensive side that you made because you already made the

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<v Speaker 4>changes on the offensive side. You figured those out last offseason,

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<v Speaker 4>and feel like the offense had a pretty strong year

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<v Speaker 4>from from by any measures, especially if you look at

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<v Speaker 4>Week six going into the bye week and what they

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<v Speaker 4>did coming out. I think there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>positive you could take away from that. But you look

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<v Speaker 4>at the defensive side and how like you said, wherever

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<v Speaker 4>they lose, it was the same exact areas of the

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<v Speaker 4>defense that we're getting attacked. You can't go into ox

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<v Speaker 4>Star next year with the same exact thing that you

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<v Speaker 4>finished with on Sunday afternoons. You're going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>make some sort of major change. And I think that

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<v Speaker 4>starts with the defensive side of the ball, because they

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<v Speaker 4>haven't done that yet. They already did the offensive side.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's do a defensive overhaul. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 4>that looks like.

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<v Speaker 6>And as she gets a philosophy question coming out of

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<v Speaker 6>ox Star, did we all think that they went short

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<v Speaker 6>at linebacker?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, everyone was concerned about seed line.

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<v Speaker 7>To me, that's where I felt like the House of

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<v Speaker 7>Cards was right. Yeah. And and I think Gan was trying.

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<v Speaker 6>His best to put what I would say a band

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<v Speaker 6>aid on an amputation.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, and you know and Bell, and you talked

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<v Speaker 6>about Bell and and and what he could do and

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<v Speaker 6>all that you brought up. I think he gave a

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<v Speaker 6>great thumbnail about the player and all. But see This

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<v Speaker 6>is where I you know, you wonder about philosophy. They

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<v Speaker 6>made a determination to go short at linebacker, and they

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<v Speaker 6>trusted that Van dersh would stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>The Overshown injury was just a thing. Was tragic from

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<v Speaker 6>what we saw during training camp.

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<v Speaker 7>There were some.

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<v Speaker 6>Things philosophy wise that they chose to do that the

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<v Speaker 6>end of the year really just showed its ugly head.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, and I think that's what they have

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<v Speaker 6>to go back and study. Like when we were coming

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<v Speaker 6>out of camp, what did we think? Why did we

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<v Speaker 6>think this? Yeah, and I think that put a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of stress on the defense for some of the things

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<v Speaker 6>that some of the decisions that they made.

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<v Speaker 10>I think we were pretty excited about overshowing. Right, So

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<v Speaker 10>that's that the right point. Like for dan Quinn, you

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<v Speaker 10>look at the undersized nature of this defense and you're

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<v Speaker 10>absolutely right, Ayisha teams were exploiting that. But you were

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<v Speaker 10>hoping to have LV right, you were hoping to have Overshown.

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<v Speaker 10>But I think that this this team is very well

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<v Speaker 10>built to win the NFC East. I think now you

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<v Speaker 10>need to look at Okay, how can you match up

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<v Speaker 10>with the San Francisco, How can you match up in

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<v Speaker 10>the postseason when you get there, because I think we

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<v Speaker 10>believe this team's good, this team's gonna win double digit

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<v Speaker 10>games every single year. But once we get into the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 10>there seems to be a little bit of a disconnect there.

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<v Speaker 10>You need to get bigger, you need to get bigger,

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<v Speaker 10>and you need to get stronger for me, and that's

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<v Speaker 10>kind of a difference that I'm looking at instead of

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<v Speaker 10>just simply speed.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we all evaluated Mossi Smith, right, yeah, and Massie

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<v Speaker 6>Smith was supposed to be the three hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 6>pound defensive tackle. And next thing I know, I'm watching

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<v Speaker 6>tape and I call Aisha, I go, Massi Smith looks small.

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<v Speaker 7>To you, you know, and we all were kind of yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He looks small and playing at like three oh seven.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>See, that's what I'm saying. All of a sudden, there's

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<v Speaker 6>some philosophy things on defense, and yeah, they absolutely do

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<v Speaker 6>need to get bigger, tougher, I think is something. But

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<v Speaker 6>we talked about toughness two years ago against San Francisco. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, some things have to change, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>exactly what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I said on our show yesterday, I said one

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<v Speaker 9>of the one of the changes I'm looking to see. Hey, man, listen,

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<v Speaker 9>if you keep the head coach in the OC, fine,

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<v Speaker 9>for the love of God, bring an advisor of somebody

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<v Speaker 9>in here that understands the Shanahan tree, because defensively and

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<v Speaker 9>off offensively, they give you trouble and it's not getting

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<v Speaker 9>any better.

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<v Speaker 3>The Rams have turned it around and figured their life out.

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<v Speaker 9>Green Bay looks like an up and coming team. You

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<v Speaker 9>got to see these people you're gonna have to see

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<v Speaker 9>and the forty nine ers could possibly be just as

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<v Speaker 9>good next year. You're gonna have to keep seeing these

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<v Speaker 9>these guys. And then also to on the AFC side,

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<v Speaker 9>to your point, you played a lot of unfamiliar opponents

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<v Speaker 9>this year and it showed, And so I thought that

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<v Speaker 9>was I thought that was a good point that you

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<v Speaker 9>guys made in regard to like, Okay, well, this team

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<v Speaker 9>is beat to you that it's built to build the

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<v Speaker 9>NF to beat the NFC NFC East Oh yeah cool, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>but you need to look at how do you match

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<v Speaker 9>up against everyone else as well? Can this travel Can

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<v Speaker 9>this philosophy be extended across the NFL, because maybe if

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<v Speaker 9>you once you get in the playoffs, or if you're

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<v Speaker 9>trying to get to the ball, you gonna see the

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<v Speaker 9>AFC team.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no avoiding them at this point.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's like, to your point, broadening the matchups and

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<v Speaker 9>the personnel I think is going to be important. But

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<v Speaker 9>also find an identity, identity and philosophy on both sides

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<v Speaker 9>of both sides of the ball that's conducive to be

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<v Speaker 9>successful in the league is going to be important moving forward.

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<v Speaker 7>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 10>And they got to figure out an offense. How do

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<v Speaker 10>you run the football? And it's a little bizarre. You

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<v Speaker 10>look up and you've got two first team All pros

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<v Speaker 10>at guard? Have you got a second team All Pro

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<v Speaker 10>at tackle?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>You could not run the ball all year.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think they look at that?

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<v Speaker 9>Do you think they look at the coordinator position, even

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<v Speaker 9>though a lot of the players love Salari?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that something that maybe you look at the inability.

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<v Speaker 2>To run you have to But if anything, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a philosophy from your head coach, if your play caller,

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<v Speaker 2>not just the head coach specifically, but you.

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<v Speaker 7>Sold as the idea that we're going to run the

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<v Speaker 7>ball right.

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<v Speaker 2>All training camp long, run the ball, run the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>run the ball, and then you can't run the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>That's troubling to me. If you're saying there's an emphasis

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<v Speaker 2>on running the football and you've got three All pros

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<v Speaker 2>up front to first team one second team, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be the best running team in the country and or

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<v Speaker 2>at least top five, and you barely crack the top

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen and you're just man in terms of running the football.

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<v Speaker 2>Bringing up a lot of these points, linebacker, defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line, different elements of this team.

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<v Speaker 7>Is there one specific position of need?

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<v Speaker 2>I asked the question yesterday on Twitter, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>resounding linebacker as the number one. But I think we

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<v Speaker 2>could all kind of look around the table and say

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<v Speaker 2>linebackers maybe not what twenty four overall is gonna institute.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a spot for twenty four overall unless it's

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect player and it's somebody that you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a starter for twelve years in

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<v Speaker 2>the league, and YadA, YadA, YadA, But where is the

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<v Speaker 2>position of need.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now for the Skallas Cowboys team?

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<v Speaker 4>For me, I'm looking offensive line. I want a guy

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<v Speaker 4>that has versatility up front. I want a guy who

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<v Speaker 4>could play multiple positions. I want a guy that can

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<v Speaker 4>come into the building and be able to Okay, we

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<v Speaker 4>could fit you in there. If you work there, If

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<v Speaker 4>Tulers moves to tackle, maybe we can keep Tyler Smith

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<v Speaker 4>and Gard and move you to tackle. You look, get

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<v Speaker 4>a guy like Graham Barton out of Duke.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's a guy.

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<v Speaker 7>In the first player let's go.

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<v Speaker 11>Four.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a guy that could play all five. I'm almost

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<v Speaker 4>confident he could play all five up front. And you

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<v Speaker 4>look in the second round, a guy like Jackson Powers Johnson.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a guy that's played four of the five up

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<v Speaker 4>front for Oregon in the last two seasons. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to bring in a guy that has a

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<v Speaker 4>ton of versatility, and they've shown to do that. Austin

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<v Speaker 4>Richards they were hoping to have that little versatility with him.

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<v Speaker 4>Most of the guys that they drafted in the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>three draft class played multiple positions in college and they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to fit them around figure out what to do

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<v Speaker 4>with him. I think they continue that philosophy, but they

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<v Speaker 4>try to find a little bit better talent in that area.

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<v Speaker 10>The deepest position groups are offensive tackle and wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 10>In the first round this year, I think, without question,

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<v Speaker 10>now linebacker, a lot of people you're right, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 10>want want a back er. I think maybe Edrin Cooper

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<v Speaker 10>from Texas A and M could be your top guy.

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<v Speaker 10>I love Cedrick Gray from North Carolina. I watched him

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<v Speaker 10>last night. That dude flies around, makes a lot of plays.

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<v Speaker 10>But I think day two, maybe early day three, that's

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<v Speaker 10>when you can attack linebacker. Just from what I've seen

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<v Speaker 10>so far, but the meet in the first round offensive line,

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<v Speaker 10>there's a couple of tackles that are super athletic. But

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<v Speaker 10>I do think you need to probably improve at center.

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<v Speaker 10>I think when this team had issues, and you know,

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<v Speaker 10>it's nothing against Tyler to be oddish, but it was,

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<v Speaker 10>it was in the middle right and I think that

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of your run issues were because of that.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think when Dak had issues, it was because

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<v Speaker 10>immediately and every quarterback's going to have this, it's pressure

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<v Speaker 10>in your face. You've got to have a guy, and

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<v Speaker 10>I think ram Barton's perfect for this. I think he

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<v Speaker 10>kicks inside at the next level. I think he's a

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<v Speaker 10>guarder center. I don't think he's big enough to play tackle.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the same thing about font Neu from Washington.

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<v Speaker 10>I think he's six ' two was an outstanding tackle

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<v Speaker 10>at college. But to me, he's got that squatty guard body.

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<v Speaker 10>Those are two kind of guys to me, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 10>at if they fall. The twenty four Graham Barton, I

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<v Speaker 10>think is the Nasties offensive lineman that I looked at.

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<v Speaker 10>He's a finisher. He wants to put your ass on

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<v Speaker 10>the ground, right, and I think you need a little

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<v Speaker 10>bit of that physicality and toughness.

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<v Speaker 3>What let Briano.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he just said drop that ass on the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>to put your ass on the ground, but he drops

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<v Speaker 2>that ass.

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<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to look at Aisa and if we could,

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to throw back.

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<v Speaker 7>One of the best scouting terms I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 4>Of, that telling me the guy from Doukie drops.

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<v Speaker 2>His A's not a family friendly show anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>We're taking exactly not.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't want to be the cliche and mentioned linebacker,

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<v Speaker 9>which you already took into You've already taken offensive line man.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen to take a linebacker. I'll dance with you here.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean you talk about you know, late later

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<v Speaker 9>down in the in the rounds, you know, maybe not

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<v Speaker 9>taking one day one, maybe not even day two, depending

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<v Speaker 9>on I like Maurice Lefu from Notre Dame outside linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>I took a lot.

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<v Speaker 9>I took a look at him. I like his lateral quickness.

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<v Speaker 9>He has the ability to rush the passer. But his y'all,

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<v Speaker 9>he plays that line of aggressiveness like very very well.

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<v Speaker 3>He stays.

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<v Speaker 9>He's even tempered, but he can be a little hot headed,

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<v Speaker 9>and he's his motor is crazy. He's listen. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 9>someone he has the hair and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was a buckets.

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<v Speaker 9>Ward finance as well, so he's he's People know that

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<v Speaker 9>this guy can play.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't. They didn't. They were top ten in defense

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 3>and this crazy guy was a part of it because

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<v Speaker 3>he plays with his hair on fire.

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<v Speaker 9>But I just like how he comes downhill and tackles.

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:22.040
<v Speaker 9>He's physical, and he also has coverage instincts. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, honestly, when you look at this linebacker class,

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of them can't come and it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 9>of cool because we talked about it last year, just

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<v Speaker 9>kind of the evolution of the position.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's a good.

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<v Speaker 9>Balance of I can cover, but I can come downhill

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<v Speaker 9>and I'm gonna make you pay. And I do think

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<v Speaker 9>that that's something you want to look for. But I

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<v Speaker 9>look at the lateral quickness too. When you're talking about

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<v Speaker 9>how you beat some of these guys that do a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of motion and all that stuff or attack your linebackers.

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<v Speaker 3>He has some of that in them.

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<v Speaker 9>So I was looking at him last night and I

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<v Speaker 9>was very impressed by what I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe if you want to.

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<v Speaker 9>Get a guy, maybe like the third round or fourth round,

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<v Speaker 9>if that's what you decide to do.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy can ball.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And one thing to add about Mary's lula foul. He

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<v Speaker 4>comes trump on file. I believe luifoul pronunciation. We're getting

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<v Speaker 4>on that. But he comes from Punaho, Hawaii, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a north Honolulu, and those guys are known for being

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<v Speaker 4>run stoppers. I mean Notre Dame loves to go get

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<v Speaker 4>those Samoan guys to fill into that second level. There's

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<v Speaker 4>another one we'll talk about next year in Nuafe tou Halamaca,

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<v Speaker 4>but talking about Luifal.

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<v Speaker 5>For this year.

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<v Speaker 4>He started he started as a bit nick. He started

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<v Speaker 4>as to be in high school and being able to

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<v Speaker 4>add that weight, get up to two forty and add

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<v Speaker 4>that run stopping ability that he trains with down in

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<v Speaker 4>Honolulu because they can't throw the ball down there. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I'm sorry too. What was the only one that

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<v Speaker 4>really to really come out of there that could So

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<v Speaker 4>having to go through those four years run stopping and

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<v Speaker 4>being able to fill that and then also having that

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<v Speaker 4>dB background, it really helped him once he got to

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<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame. He's a guy I really like as well

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<v Speaker 4>that has a little bit of versatility.

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<v Speaker 3>Lo raw, he's still to me.

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<v Speaker 9>To me, I think he still has some stuff that

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<v Speaker 9>he has to work on. But I like that because

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<v Speaker 9>I think he has all the tools and you can

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<v Speaker 9>just put him out there and.

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<v Speaker 2>Let him go.

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<v Speaker 5>That sounds sad, Yeah, sounds right.

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<v Speaker 3>You got some hit stake to him.

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<v Speaker 10>So the one position group that I think is drastically

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<v Speaker 10>different from last year that is pretty thin is running back,

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<v Speaker 10>and that's another.

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<v Speaker 7>Spot hey looking at that.

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<v Speaker 10>Was a group that last year we were talking about

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<v Speaker 10>ten deep at running back.

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<v Speaker 7>We're like, man, you can get a guy on day two.

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<v Speaker 7>You're feeling really good about it.

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<v Speaker 10>This year, the best guy that I've watched so far

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<v Speaker 10>Trey Benson from Florida State.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he can do everything you want.

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<v Speaker 10>But I mean a Jonathan Brooks out of Texas I

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<v Speaker 10>think is a really good player, but he's coming off

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<v Speaker 10>of the injury, right, A lot of these guys decided

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<v Speaker 10>to go back. I was high on Donovan Edwards from Michigan.

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<v Speaker 10>He's going back to school, Trayvon Henderson from Ohio State

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<v Speaker 10>going back to school. You know, Blake Quorum now has

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<v Speaker 10>put himself in the conversation of being and he's five

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<v Speaker 10>to eight. Do you want to go with another smaller

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<v Speaker 10>back there? So I mean running back and linebacker the

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<v Speaker 10>two spots that I think are big needs for this team.

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<v Speaker 10>But I don't think that there's really going to be

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<v Speaker 10>a guy when you look at draft value that you

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<v Speaker 10>can take super high.

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<v Speaker 2>And even like Jonathan Brooks at the top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's up there on the list, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>coming off of an injury as well. So it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like this entire running back class has questions. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is a team that was in the market for a running.

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<v Speaker 5>Back last year. They took Duzwan in the sixth round.

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<v Speaker 2>But even before that, we were sitting in this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>studio and looking at guys like just Zach sharbonnet Chan,

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<v Speaker 2>Tank Bigsby. It felt like every round they were looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a guy and then he would he would get

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<v Speaker 2>slipped out.

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<v Speaker 5>From underneath them. Yeah, they didn't end up getting anybody.

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<v Speaker 6>There's value, there's value in the and that that you guys,

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<v Speaker 6>you're right though. That position was so deep, it was

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<v Speaker 6>a fun group to study. I'm gonna throw a guy

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<v Speaker 6>out at you real quick here if I could, I

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<v Speaker 6>know were up against on a break here.

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<v Speaker 5>We can we can get one guy in.

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<v Speaker 7>How about this?

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<v Speaker 6>I drafted this guy's dad at Philadelphia and Jeremiah Trotter Junior.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're talking about linebackers, he liked this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this guy's my Nick Bolton from Mckansas City Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 9>We loved Nick Bolton in twenty How.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel today Frisco lone star.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm and it's only gonna get better.

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<v Speaker 6>Kid. But yeah, this kid, like you said, draft his

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<v Speaker 6>dad in ninety eight and while I was with the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 6>and he plays with fire and past and he's super

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<v Speaker 6>competitive the way he moves now. People say, watch the

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<v Speaker 6>Duke game. He had some problems in that game. He

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely wasn't one of his best games. Watch Notre Dame,

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 6>watch North Carolina, watch some of these other games. You'll

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<v Speaker 6>kind of figure some things out. But this guy plays

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<v Speaker 6>down hill, he plays fast, He knows how to cover.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got the lateral Jeerley, the quickness, the sideline, the sideline.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw him at the time, the ball carriers.

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<v Speaker 7>At the sticks.

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<v Speaker 6>He's hitting the guy and is stopping right there. This

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<v Speaker 6>guy's a powerful player. His dad was a powerful player.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got instinct too. This guy's a wrap up tackler.

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<v Speaker 6>He can finish and all that. He's six foot though.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know where teams are going to look at him,

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<v Speaker 6>but when you watch him play again, it reminded me

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<v Speaker 6>of Nick Bolton when he was at Missouri.

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<v Speaker 7>That he was shorter, but he was making every single play.

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<v Speaker 6>And so Jeremiah Trotter junior my guy h And I'll

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<v Speaker 6>say it right now because I think he's a hell

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<v Speaker 6>of a football player.

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<v Speaker 5>So you drafted his dad?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, who was?

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<v Speaker 2>I know the draft great are not complete as a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's a better prospect, more well well rounded.

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<v Speaker 6>Took his dad in the third round. His son's better,

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<v Speaker 6>His sons would probably go a lot higher. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 6>did I see him right?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I watched him.

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<v Speaker 9>I watched him last night and uh, I literally wrote down.

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<v Speaker 9>I said, if you're gonna chip him, you better bury

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<v Speaker 9>him because he's not. He's hair on fire. Steal that, yeah,

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 9>you can definitely steal like you you better bury him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was looking at to your point.

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<v Speaker 9>I said, his turbos are crazy turbos being the closing

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<v Speaker 9>speed he has.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how you watch Michael and you see him

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<v Speaker 3>close on.

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<v Speaker 5>People downhill acceleration.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's it's crazy. He just jumps on people so quickly.

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<v Speaker 9>I did write down some people may worry about his side.

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<v Speaker 7>They're worry about have we.

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<v Speaker 3>Not learned our lesson from Ivan Pace?

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<v Speaker 12>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just respectfully, have we not learned our lesson?

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<v Speaker 11>There?

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<v Speaker 5>We're talking about successes as a show. That was one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I was went on the whole one. I was the

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<v Speaker 5>he was talking about it. He was texting me last

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<v Speaker 5>last year.

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<v Speaker 7>How thattairs?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>And also to with Trotter, what stood out to me

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<v Speaker 9>was are the ball skills when the ball's in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's snatching that thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he's good at under. I mean he plays with

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<v Speaker 7>his eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Really he snatch that.

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<v Speaker 5>His dad had nine interceptions in his career.

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<v Speaker 7>His dad was a badass.

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<v Speaker 5>He really was four time pro bowler. So has a

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<v Speaker 5>better prospect.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll take a four time pro bowler.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he finished this.

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<v Speaker 9>He finished his career at thirteen sacks, thirteen PBUs as

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.120
<v Speaker 9>a yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Boss moving around.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait till we start talking about Frank gor versus Frank

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<v Speaker 4>cor Junior.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, little Southern miss action.

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<v Speaker 12>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back here on the Draft Show, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>continue on with some tell me we've got some pet

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<v Speaker 2>cat abilities early on, some some guys that we just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we're gravitating toward. We're gonna talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back with more of the Draft Show

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Shows.

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<v Speaker 5>Back here on the Draft Show.

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<v Speaker 2>We are ninety nine days away from the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four NFL Draft. Alongside Nick Harris, Brian brought us Aisha Morrison,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Wildchuck. I'm Kyle Yeoman's man. It is crazy. Ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine days. It feels like we have zero time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's even closer to the Senior Bowls coming up in

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<v Speaker 2>it to get your credentials already.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready to fly out here in about twelve days.

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<v Speaker 4>So that'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 5>That'll be fun. Nick Harris will be on the way

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<v Speaker 5>to the Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be at the Shrine game down the down the

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<v Speaker 2>hallway here at the Star first year that.

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<v Speaker 5>The Shryne Game is gonna be in town, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be really cool.

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<v Speaker 7>But Dave Burgler's gonna be in town.

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<v Speaker 5>He told me so, he's coming to the Shrine Games.

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<v Speaker 7>Coming in. He's coming to check it out. We have

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<v Speaker 7>a show. We might have to pop him in.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll make sure he's in here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as much as these All Star Games are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna show, they're gonna start popping up pet cats left in.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna start popping up these players of interest, guys

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 2>that you just love and practice. He love their tenacity,

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<v Speaker 2>you love their their fight. And then it's also going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a knock on some guys at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we even get into All Star Games, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to know some of the guys that you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are looking at. And we'll start with Zach Waltschuk who's

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<v Speaker 2>your early pet cat any position. It could be a

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<v Speaker 2>position a need, could be just an overall BPA.

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<v Speaker 5>What you got So?

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<v Speaker 10>I mentioned Cedar Gray, linebacker from North Carolina earlier. But

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<v Speaker 10>probably my favorite player I've watched so far as Javon Boller,

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<v Speaker 10>the defensive bag from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 7>Like this dude's just a dog. You saw action as

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<v Speaker 7>a freshman.

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<v Speaker 10>He was named defensive MVP of the national title game

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<v Speaker 10>against TCU and the semi final against Ohio State. So

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<v Speaker 10>big game player. He will thump you, super physical downhill player.

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<v Speaker 10>And you know he's not a guy that's gonna throw

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<v Speaker 10>his body in there. We've seen that a lot. He

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<v Speaker 10>will wrap up and he will run absolutely through you.

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<v Speaker 10>He's got a reckless abandon about him. He's really good

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<v Speaker 10>against the run, can come down cover the slot as well.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what's interesting about this guy is a safety. I

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<v Speaker 10>think he can match up and lineup inside against the

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<v Speaker 10>slot as well. Love his aggression and play temperament. He's

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<v Speaker 10>a competitor, gets everyone lined up, like you can see

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 10>the football intelligence and the leadership back there. Everybody on

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 10>that Georgia secondary. And if you're taking a Georgia player,

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<v Speaker 10>that plays in the secondary, you're probably getting a dog.

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<v Speaker 10>To me, he's the best one that is back there.

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 10>Everyone's looking to him. Am I in the right place?

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 10>I lined up short area quickness, He's got recovery speed,

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<v Speaker 10>high motor. Guy, can chase down plays from the back side.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm a big Jevon Bullard fan. I think he might

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<v Speaker 10>be the best dB that I've watched period.

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<v Speaker 5>Period, like this year and.

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<v Speaker 7>Just this year.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, just this year. I was about to say, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, oh my good.

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<v Speaker 10>But I've watched a lot of the top corners in

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<v Speaker 10>this draft so far, and there's some good ones like

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<v Speaker 10>Arnold from Alabama. I think he's the best corner in

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<v Speaker 10>the draft. But Bullard just as a pure defensive back prospect.

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<v Speaker 10>To me, he's my most fun tape study so far.

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<v Speaker 2>It may not bother many because he does play safety

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<v Speaker 2>and he has some safety nickel flex. But he's five

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<v Speaker 2>foot eleven and he's listed at a buck nine five,

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<v Speaker 2>so it may even be smaller whenever.

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<v Speaker 5>The combine comes around. Does that bother you at all?

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<v Speaker 10>He just plays bigger and like for his frame. To me,

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 10>he doesn't look skinny like it's not when you're looking

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 10>and last year we saw Emmanuel Forbes and you're like, dang.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 7>That guy is wiry.

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<v Speaker 10>To me, he's filled out pretty well, and he could

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<v Speaker 10>probably put on some weight. I'm sure that teams might

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<v Speaker 10>want him to do so, but the way that he

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<v Speaker 10>moves and the way he's just so physical and tough

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 10>to me, the size is not an issue for him

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<v Speaker 10>at all.

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<v Speaker 6>Love that there's another one of those light corners weight wise.

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<v Speaker 6>Has anybody seeing Abrams drain from Missouri?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's funny because I was I was about

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<v Speaker 4>to mention your guy. I was gonna mention the other

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<v Speaker 4>Missouri corner.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, go ahead, no, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm gonna take an innest Rakestraw from from Missouri.

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 4>He's a he's a Duncanville guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, so

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 4>that I wanted to throw out a precursor here. Not

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 4>every pet cat I'm gonna have is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 4>guy I used to cover.

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<v Speaker 5>From the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's two legitimate corners here from Missouri that are

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 4>going to bed one day. Two type guys. I look

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 4>at inn this Rakestraw. I want to start from the

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<v Speaker 4>top with him. He was a guy back in the

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen or going into the twenty twenty recruiting class.

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 4>He had zero offers going into the final two weeks

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 4>of the recruiting cycle. Nothing. He was looking at FCS options.

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Alcorn State was one that was popping out for him.

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 4>He had a huge state championship against north Shore, Alabama, Missouri, Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>They all offered immediately and those were the three hats

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<v Speaker 4>on the table for him on signing day, and he

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<v Speaker 4>chose Missouri, and he could have gone to Alabama, he

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<v Speaker 4>could have gone to Texas. Missouri showed him a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of love and it was a huge win for Eli

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 4>drink Woitz. There's actually a video out there of drink

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 4>Woitz throwing a drink in the air and losing his

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 4>mind over getting Rakestraw on signing day. But he started

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 4>year one for them, all ten games in that twenty

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 4>twenty season, and he has started every game since that.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been healthy at least this past year. He didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get thrown on him. He does not get tested at all,

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 4>and it allowed for opportunities for Chris Abrams Strain and

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Chris Adens. Strain got a lot of work as a result,

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 4>and it's actually huge for him because I think going

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<v Speaker 4>into the season for Chris Abrams Strain, you were looking

0:33:57.840 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 4>at a guy who was, you know, potentially a Day

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<v Speaker 4>three type guy, you know, but just needed reps. And

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 4>boy did he get him because and this Ray Charles

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 4>on the other side locking things down. He's six foot

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 4>one eighty eight. He's gonna be really lanky, but he's

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 4>got really long arms. He's gonna press a guy right

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 4>off the line and get physical. He has that Duncanville

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 4>physicality tenacity that you have to see from a corner.

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 4>He's got the aura. He's definitely got it. He's a

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 4>guy that's starting to sneak into that late first round

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 4>type of type of territory. I think for me, I

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 4>would take him mid second. But I think he's a

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 4>guy that's awesome. I really do enjoy him.

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 6>Those Missouri corners are fun. They're they're a good group

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 6>to watch. You're gonna help me with this name from

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 6>U C. L A the edge Rusher. That's my guy's

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 6>first second.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 4>I want to see if I can find it like Laatsu.

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 4>I believe it's Latsu. But again, we're gonna'm about to

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 4>go through all of these.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 7>Is it lot Tolatchu? For sure?

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 6>I feel embarrassed because, like I said, I'm trying to

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 6>learn these names. But I'll tell you what. You watched

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 6>his tape. He's an edge from a U c.

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 15>L A.

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 6>He transferred from Washington. He's a no nonsense player. He's

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 6>really lentless, effort, pursuit, NonStop. Most of his work is

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 6>done from the two point stance. This guy's sixty five

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 6>two sixty five, you know, so you're kind of thinking, oh, well,

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 6>maybe he's got a three four defensive end kind of

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 6>a build. You know that that that just that that

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, five technique head up guy.

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 7>Now, this guy could play on the edge.

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 6>And when you start to talk about him, it's the speed,

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 6>it's the quickness, it's the length. He gives blockers trouble.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 6>He breaks guys down. He's a swat swim. Hands are

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 6>always going, NonStop technique. He's got diverse pass rush moves too.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 6>And I really do like this kid. I know Dallas

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 6>might not be looking at an edge, but if you

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 6>want to talk about a guy, if you if you're

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 6>one of these fans that maybe another team that's looking

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 6>at edge, look at Latou from from UCLA.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 7>Where's number fifteen? Now?

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 6>The thing about him is he's dealt with some injury history.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 6>He's he's had a medical history and he had to

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 6>like step away from the game and then got clear

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 6>back to being able to play. So we'll see how

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 6>that affects him. But man, this guy as a run defender,

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 6>pass rusher, the way he plays is just really really outstanding,

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 6>And I think the Indie combined will tell the story

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 6>of this guy. If he slides down the draft, he

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 6>might be one of these guys on the board at

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 6>twenty four that might If he might be, You're gonna

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 6>look at it and say, maybe it's just too much

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 6>that you can't pass a guy like this, because but

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 6>you know, we some of the comparisons are what Lucas

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 6>van Ness, the kid we saw from Iowa last year,

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 6>that kind of some of that comparison.

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 7>Maybe a little bit better player, I think.

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I would definitely say I think a.

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 10>Little more Ben Yeah, definitely like lotch you. To me,

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 10>I think is the best pass rusher in the draft

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.439
<v Speaker 10>in terms of edges him and versus two for two.

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 10>To me, I think the guy that I'm gonna lost

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 10>again that I could be totally wrong on. And I

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.280
<v Speaker 10>know I've talked to Brian about this, and he's getting

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 10>love like he's the best edge rusher in the draft

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 10>is Dallas Turner. Okay, I don't think I'm an Dallas

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 10>Turner guy. To me, I'm taking Lat two over Dallas Turner.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 10>To me, Dallas Turner looks the part. He physically is very,

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 10>very impressive, but I think he runs himself out of play.

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 10>Sometimes he's got a good stab and a rip inside

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 10>he drops off into coverage.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 7>Is also a little bit weird and know why you're

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 7>doing that sometimes with him.

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 10>But to me, I just didn't see as hyped as

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 10>he is as a top ten type of player. I

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 10>didn't see that when I watched him play as a

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 10>freak athlete. And I think scouts will look at that

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 10>and be like, gosh, I can make him an absolute

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 10>Pro Bowl All Pro player.

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 7>But give me a lot too.

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 10>If I had to, if I had to pick between

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 10>the two of them, I think the guy. If you

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 10>filled the twenty four goodness, I mean.

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 7>The medicals are going to be. The medicals are going

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 7>to be.

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 5>That's what it's gonna be.

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 7>So much fun.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you're comparing him to Lucas van Ness, I

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 2>mean Vanas was taken by the Packers at thirteen.

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I mean he.

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 3>Was not and we was.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I remember our reactions.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, yeah, no, yeah, because we didn't love like

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 6>but that's what people comparison.

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 7>I think. I think, I think he's I think, did

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 7>you kids a better player than yeah?

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 9>Last year when we were it was so many edges,

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 9>If I'm not mistaken, it was a lot of edges.

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 9>And I can't remember what his name was, but there

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 9>was one that everyone was so high on early and

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 9>we was.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 5>Like Tyree Wilson, Tyred.

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>We were like, we all kind of talked about it,

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 2>like good player, top ten pick maybe not.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that was kind of the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I felt like about Dallas Turner. He's the

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 3>that's what that's Wilson.

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 4>Cowboys fans are worried about Mazie Smith and his rookie year.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 4>Go go talk to a Raiders fan about Tyree Wilson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>lots who kind of gives me. He has a little

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 4>bit of Joey bo said, he's got that crazy size

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 4>sixty five to sixty five coming off the edge. He's

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 4>but he's athletic. He used that in athleticism and he's

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 4>got a lot of power. May need to improve a

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 4>little bit on technique because it's clear that he's used

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 4>power his whole life, but he's athletic as hell. That's

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 4>a guy you would love to have.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny you brought up lots as a transfer from Washington.

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 2>My guy is currently finishing his Washington tenure. Brailan Trice

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>ed Rusher, where's the single digit technician? He's strong, six

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>foot four, two seventy five, gets off the line of scrimmage.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>He's working guys backwards. He does have a run stuffing ability,

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>he can move laterally, he knows how to close things out.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>The one thing is he doesn't have a great change

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 2>of direction. He's not very bendy.

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 5>That's not his game though. His game is a power game.

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 7>Top heavy.

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's very strong up front, but that's that's where

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I've got him. I haven't watched a ton of ed Rushers,

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 2>only three at the moment, but he was my first watch, and.

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 5>I really did like, I'm with you on that.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 10>There's something about him that stands out that you're like, okay, right,

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 10>And I put out a tweet that is probably gonna

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 10>get con on old takes exposed years from now. But

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<v Speaker 10>I would give me a Brailn Trice over Dallas Turner.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, wow, yeah, who do you got?

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't no, no, no, come.

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched Dallas Turner yet, but just hearing the

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 2>hype with him, I.

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 7>Feel like that would be a tough top ten guy.

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of Braylan Trice at like twenty five like that,

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 2>like back half of the first I'm not gonna be

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 2>a better pro.

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.479
<v Speaker 5>I think Tries might be that guy.

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I like it. Brian took my pet cat.

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 4>It was a lot.

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 9>No Jeremiah Trotter, talk about it, please, I talked about.

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Him enough I wanted to. This is another guy that

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 3>caught my attention.

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 11>Y'all.

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.439
<v Speaker 9>Don't don't roast me. But I know we talk about

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 9>running back and maybe that it's not nearly as good

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 9>as it was last year. But Marshaun Lloyd out of

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 9>USC stood out to me a little bit. Transferred from

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 9>South Carolina to usc.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 7>USC to USC.

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 9>Y'all make me so sick.

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 7>Believe that just happened us.

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 5>They're both gonna show up in an l s U

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 5>Jersey next week.

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 7>It's just gonna be great.

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 6>Please.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 3>But now he stood out to me.

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 9>He just the shiftiness and his cut back ability, it

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 9>stands out to you. I was looking at the just

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 9>the overall foot quickness was there, and but the specifically

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 9>the short area of quickness is off the charts to me.

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 9>And I feel like he also too. If he sees it,

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 9>he can go. I like the acceleration. The top speed

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 9>is not elite or it's not like super high, but

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 9>again I think you you can deal with it with

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 9>the short area quickness. The lateral agility is crazy. He's

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 9>strong too, Like his lower half is crazy.

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.879
<v Speaker 3>Now he's five to nine, so I don't know if

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 3>anybody would care about that. He's two ten. He's two

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 3>ten five to nine, so.

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 7>But I can rock with five nine.

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 9>He's very stout. He's very stout. His lower half of

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 9>his body is really strong. To that point he is

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 9>not afraid to pick up a blitz. He is not

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 9>afraid to get his nose in there.

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Would pass pro That's a huge point.

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 9>So some you know, because when people look at smaller

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 9>running backs, they're like.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, are people going to be trampling him?

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 9>No, Like he's his lower half allows him to be

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 9>able to stand in there. And do some of these

0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 9>blitz pickups and things like that. I think you would

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 9>thrive his own scheme because again, like some of his

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 9>lateral quickness is off the charts.

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 3>So he got my attention.

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 9>There's not a like I said, we talked about it,

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 9>there's not a lot of the running back classes, not

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 9>what it was last year.

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.359
<v Speaker 3>But this guy I think can play the game.

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 4>My question for you on Marshawn Lloyd, and I know

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 4>we're early in the process here, so it might be

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 4>tough to make a comparison, but you look at a

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 4>guy like Blake Koram who has similar size, a little

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 4>bit better production, a little bit more speed, how do

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 4>you kind of different differentiate the too For me.

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 9>Now, when you look at Blake, because I watched him

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 9>for quite a bit of time, obviously there's a lot

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 9>of a lot of tape on him a touchdown, he's

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 9>been doing a lot. I think that Marshan is a

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 9>little bit more punishing as far as power, and I

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 9>like Blake and I like what he's able to do.

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 9>But at the same time, I do I think Marshan

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 9>has a good balance of the power and the speed

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 9>in the lateral quickness. I know Korn could do a

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 9>lot of stuff and bounce to the outside, and he

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 9>displays patients and things like that. I think Marshan has

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.919
<v Speaker 9>these things. But if he dips his shoulder, he's gonna

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 9>make you pay. You're gonna feel him a little bit

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:03.800
<v Speaker 9>more to me than what you're gonna feel Quorm.

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 3>So that would to me be the distation between the two.

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 9>They both don't have like crazy breakaway speed like I said,

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 9>but even so, I still think that Marshaan has a

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 9>little bit more juice as at that top.

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Speed, and then that plays say I plays into past

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 4>protection as well.

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 9>So yeah, the similar cup back ability as Korn.

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:23.919
<v Speaker 3>Like to your point, I'm.

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 9>Glad that you brought that up, because, yeah, their cup

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 9>back ability is similar to me, the lateral quickness and

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 9>stuff like that.

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned the production and all that stuff.

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 9>But if you go look at him, he will look

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 9>at Marshan as see the year he was there or

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 9>the time he was there, he was decently productive.

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 3>But to average seven point yards of carry.

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 9>This past season is let you know, this guy can

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 9>rumble if he needs to rumble, And can I.

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 5>Slid one more? Dude in one more because I'm geeking

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 5>over here for it.

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 10>You guys, watch Jersey Newton from Illinois.

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 4>I have a hilarious story about it.

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 3>I watched him last year. I think I forgot my

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:55.359
<v Speaker 3>notes in him.

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 7>I'd love to hear the story.

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 10>But as far as defensive tackles go, like, man, what

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.399
<v Speaker 10>would I like to see the consistency with his get

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 10>off a little bit more? Yes, but holy moly, this

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 10>dude was a fun watch. I mean and and I

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 10>love his awareness. He puts that big pop he has

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.720
<v Speaker 10>swatting balls the line of scrimmage. He takes on double teams.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 10>I think he play three tech. I think kick out

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 10>and play some five tech. He's got some versatility, plays

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 10>with tremendous leverage. It was one of my notes on him,

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 10>and I love him. I mean he's a little bit smaller.

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 10>Maybe the yeah, short arms, short arms, But to me,

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 10>I mean he does do a good job of of

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 10>shedding blocks and being able to chase, play, scrape down

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 10>the line of scrimmage.

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 7>To Newton was a fun study.

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 9>Yes, interesting, you put him next to a ham, He's

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 9>gonna go.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he's he's to your point. I watched him.

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 9>I remember watching him last year because we were so

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 9>impressed by the Illinois defense in general, so well coached

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 9>and that secondary back there. Maybe you think they was

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 9>you think they was thriving just because No, that that

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 9>front four was steady for Illinois as well. And so yeah,

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 9>i'd like his hands too. The violence in his hands,

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 9>I think that's what helps him. Yeah short, Yeah, it's hard, right,

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 9>the hand fighting is there. So he's he is an

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 9>interesting watch. I'm gonna find my notes there.

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 10>Ben was more impressive than I was anticipating. When I

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 10>first started watching, it was like, man, this guy's got

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 10>some bed to him.

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 5>You know what this sounds like.

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like Elijah Chancey from Pitt last year a

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 2>certain extent what it was, Okay, Chancy was like to

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 2>eighty Yeah he was a.

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 6>Little bit of a smaller guy. But yeah, this guy's

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.439
<v Speaker 6>super disruptive. You guys are right about that.

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 7>Uh. The chase is excellent and when he gets in position.

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean, this guy, I always say it in my notes,

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 6>like this guy's he's got like a dynamic initial burst.

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:41.959
<v Speaker 7>Yes, the way he comes off the ball and gets

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:43.879
<v Speaker 7>into these blockers love it.

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 5>A lot of names flying around. That's what we wanted.

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 2>This first aid don't worry fans, we will have Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>It will happen.

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 2>We will have Twitter on the twenty. Whenever we were

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 2>sending out the rundown, it's like, I want to get

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:57.879
<v Speaker 2>names out here. I want to just start hitting as

0:45:57.880 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 2>many prospects as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Always back here on the Draft Show, presented by Miller

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<v Speaker 2>Hight Here from the SWBC studios at the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 2>I Hate Shamorrison, Zach Wolchuck Brian brought us Nick Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's all right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the uh the segment that I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>all of us are probably going to uh we regret

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<v Speaker 2>talking about at some point. Just but we have to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to struggle. Yeah, just gotta talk about it. Twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three draft class for the Dallas Cowboys. Unfortunate breaks

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 2>in the area of Demarvion Overshown. Yep, I'm going down

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>early in the season. But you have first round pick

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Mazzie Smith's, second round pick Luke Scoonmaker, fourth round pick

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Villa Yami Fojoko. Then you have Eric Scott Junior. You

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<v Speaker 2>have Awesome Richards in the fifth round, you have Douce

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<v Speaker 2>Vaughan in the sixth round, and then yeah, not a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of production across the board. Jalen Brooks was

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<v Speaker 2>a seventh round pick. Not a ton of production. Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>You've been in these draft rooms. You've been in these

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<v Speaker 2>war rooms, had drafts like this before.

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<v Speaker 7>Here.

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<v Speaker 5>You've had ups and you've had down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing radio with you guys, right, Yeah, where does

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<v Speaker 2>this change things, if at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in terms of your philosophy moving forward, Well.

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<v Speaker 6>What's disappointing to me is though I think you had

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<v Speaker 6>a clear plan for what you wanted to do with Mazzi.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that you had an idea and then all

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<v Speaker 6>of a sudden it switched and you know the thing

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<v Speaker 6>with Mazie and we all.

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<v Speaker 7>Watched the games.

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<v Speaker 6>The one problem that Mozzi has is when he doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>get off the snap quick enough, he gets blocked, you know,

0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:59.200
<v Speaker 6>and then maybe the weight loss was trying it in

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 6>his way of saying, oh, I could be quicker, I

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.440
<v Speaker 6>could get off the ball quicker if I'm smaller, But

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<v Speaker 6>that's really not what I felt like the vision for

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<v Speaker 6>Mozzie Smith was, you know, so the vision, let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 6>Before the draft, remember we were talking about tight ends

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<v Speaker 6>in the first round. They were talking about Laporta.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Remember we were all kind of looking at You're like, damn,

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<v Speaker 6>they might take Laportera here in the first round. They

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 6>were smart about that. They obviously had a vision for

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 6>what Luke Schoonmaker. We all saw Luke Schoonmaker as more

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 6>of a blocker, a guy that.

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<v Speaker 7>When Blake Korum ran the football, who is it going behind?

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 6>Is behind Schoonmaker in this offensive line and those they're

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<v Speaker 6>getting pushed and all that.

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<v Speaker 7>So you had a vision for that overshown. Unfortunate what

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 7>happened for him.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing a preseason game, he's six plays, he's got

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<v Speaker 6>three tackles. I'm going, damn, this guy needs to be

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<v Speaker 6>on the field more. You know, you just kind of

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<v Speaker 6>go down through it and it's it's a really good roster.

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<v Speaker 6>But the young players that the top players that they

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 6>had visions for it didn't work out. I can understand

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<v Speaker 6>the Eric Scott's and people like that down the Brooks

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 6>down there, you know, down the line, because you're kind

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 6>of looking for traits and trying to find it. But

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<v Speaker 6>when you don't hit on the top three guys, that

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<v Speaker 6>that makes it look.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot worse than it really is, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And I they had vision for these players and what

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<v Speaker 6>they could do. It's just they did not. They were

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<v Speaker 6>not They did not live up to the vision I

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<v Speaker 6>believed that the front office had for what those guys,

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 6>uh could could give them And and and they're playing

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<v Speaker 6>from behind. Scoon Maker was injured, but in mini camps

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 6>and stuff like that, awesome.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm not making excuses for the guy. But

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 7>he was at Michigan.

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<v Speaker 6>You watch him, man, he was a physical player, and

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:49.439
<v Speaker 6>I thought, well, he's gonna you know him Ferguson, They're

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 6>gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the reasons why you don't run the ball

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<v Speaker 6>particularly well is point of attack. Blocking at the edge,

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, with your tight ends has not been great,

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, and that's why you tried to go schoon

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.839
<v Speaker 6>Maker and it didn't work out. Right Now, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>we've seen Dalton Schultz here not do anything, you know,

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 6>and then two years later he's you know, he's off

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<v Speaker 6>doing great things.

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 7>So you know, that's my hope for guys like that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's unfortunate that they got no production out of the

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<v Speaker 6>really the top three.

0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 7>Guys that they drafted. I mean, I think that's important.

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 7>I think it's you know, take it, take a beat.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, did you get the production that you wanted

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<v Speaker 10>from these guys year one?

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<v Speaker 7>No.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 10>I think the Dalton Schultz comparison is a brilliant one.

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 10>There were questions is he going to make the roster?

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<v Speaker 10>Then he turns into one of them, but your most

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<v Speaker 10>reliable players. And I think Schoonmaker is a guy you

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<v Speaker 10>were watching him on film. I think the blocking started

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:41.840
<v Speaker 10>to come along. You started to see him do a

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 10>better job as the season went. You know, as a receiver,

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 10>you've got a guy in Jake Ferries and that's emerging

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 10>as one of the best tight ends in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 7>So I mean that that can come along nicely, but

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 7>you know you.

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<v Speaker 10>Wanted him to try and help your running game as

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<v Speaker 10>an inline blocker. The Mazie thing with the weight loss

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:59.320
<v Speaker 10>fascinates me. I think you saw flashes from Mazie this

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 10>year at time, and he's a guy that naturally is

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 10>not going to just fill up the stat sheet, right.

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 10>He's not going to be a Micah Parsons for you

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 10>or a Fowler with the splash plays that they talked

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 10>about on post game shows before. But you know, you

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 10>want Mazi to do some of the dirty work. And

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 10>I think that maybe some of it was frustration on

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 10>his part as well. Yeah, I think that he expects

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.439
<v Speaker 10>a lot out of himself and he didn't quite get

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 10>that this year. But I mean, Jalen Tolbert was a

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 10>guy that people quit on last year. Tolbert gave you

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 10>some good moments this year. So just because there wasn't

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 10>a good rookie season, I'm not quitting on some of

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 10>these guys. And I still I liked Junior Forojoco, he

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 10>was a guy the motor. There was a lot of

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.399
<v Speaker 10>stuff that I like. Crazy production didn't get to play

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:40.799
<v Speaker 10>a lot. I mean, it's awesome. Richard's the guy that

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 10>did get to play a little bit due to injury

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 10>this year, and I don't think was terrible in the

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:46.359
<v Speaker 10>reps that he got as well as that a guy

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 10>that ends up getting a bigger role. So I think

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 10>that the jury is still out the final grade on

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 10>this draft class, how good, how bad it is. I

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 10>think there's a still wait and see approach here, But

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 10>certainly you're one. You didn't hit on your top two

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 10>three got well. I think you would have on Overshown.

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 10>I think people would have viewed this differently if overshown

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:03.280
<v Speaker 10>Ho had have been healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, And I think you're also the frustration's probably

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:10.359
<v Speaker 2>amplified a significant margin because you look at the last

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:14.839
<v Speaker 2>couple drafts. You've had immediate impact from your previous three drafts. Yes,

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Ceedee Lamb, Trayvon Diggs, Neville Gallimore, Tyler Battish.

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:19.399
<v Speaker 5>In twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, it was.

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Micah Parsons, Oh Say Digizua, twenty twenty two, it was

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Smith, Jake Ferguson, de Ron Bland. Immediate production from

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 2>those three draft classes. And then you get into twenty

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:32.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty three, and like you said, the vision was there. Yeah,

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:34.839
<v Speaker 2>the effort was there in terms of putting those guys

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:36.799
<v Speaker 2>on the field and making them fit into.

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:37.760
<v Speaker 7>A certain role.

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 5>It just didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>But does that mean the vision changes this time around

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 2>whenever you go into a separate draft process.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know what, this organization does a good job

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 6>now of taking the best available player on the board.

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 7>And I trust them for that because.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, to me, I don't think they I think

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 6>they have an idea of going in what they would

0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 6>like to get, but they they've done a good job

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 6>of saying, you know what, this is our stack.

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna take this guy right now.

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 16>You know.

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean we talk about, oh, they need an edge, Oh,

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 6>they need a linebacker. Oh, and then they take a

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 6>ceed lamb or something like that, and you're like going, wow,

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:16.839
<v Speaker 6>Okay that I applaud them for what they've done. I

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 6>think that approach will always work here. I think that's

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 6>why they're one of the best draft in teams. I

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 6>think it's unfortunate that the top three guys didn't get

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 6>any production, real production this year. I don't think that

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 6>changes for them. I think they're gonna stack their board.

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 6>I think they're gonna look at the they're gonna grade

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 6>the players. They're not gonna window dress their board, and

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 6>they're gonna stack them up there, and if when it's

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 6>their turn to pick, they're gonna take their top guy.

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.399
<v Speaker 6>I trust them to do that, I really really do.

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Since it is the first draft show, and then we

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>may have some new listeners along the way. Window dressing

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.879
<v Speaker 2>a board. What does that mean terminology, Yeah, you don't

0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:51.239
<v Speaker 2>want to.

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 6>Just put guys in spots just because if you know,

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 6>if you really don't believe a guy's a first round player,

0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:58.440
<v Speaker 6>don't just put them up in the first round up

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 6>there because everybody else in the lead thinks he's a

0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 6>first round player, if you really believe that, or or

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:06.840
<v Speaker 6>if somebody's got a guy in the third round, for example,

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 6>Travis Frederick. Everybody has Travis Frederick as a as a

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 6>third round player. They took him at pick thirty, you know, yeah,

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 6>that's still below probably our cut line.

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:17.720
<v Speaker 7>We probably had.

0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 6>Twenty three first round grades, so he was more like

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 6>a second round player, but they they took him at thirty.

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:25.040
<v Speaker 7>See that's that's.

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 6>If you believe that a guy is that player, put

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 6>him where you would take it.

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 7>You know, don't window dress your board.

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 6>Don't just put him up there because you all the

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 6>scouting services said that's what you.

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 7>Have to do.

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 5>And this is not a team that window dresses there.

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:40.760
<v Speaker 5>But they will not window dress their Tyler Smith.

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 2>They took him above the pay grade at the time, Smith, Steamaker,

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 2>some of them have worked, some of them at least

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 2>did this, but have not.

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:49.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm with Zach.

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving up on Monzie Smith and Luke Schoolmaker

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 2>just yet. I think Demarvey and Overstrown can be a guy,

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.760
<v Speaker 2>but this is not an organization that in the past

0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 2>has window a dressed their board, and.

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 5>I think you should take comfort in that.

0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:03.600
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, moving forward, Yeah, I mean when you talk about

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 12>this this draft, this past draft class, and like you

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 12>guys talked about the lack of production, I know we

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 12>are giving them some time and stuff because development is important,

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 12>but it did hurt especially I mean you mentioned Juni

0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 12>and Fojoko.

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:22.320
<v Speaker 3>I was really sad, low key that.

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 9>We didn't get to see him this season because one

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 9>thing that stood up stood out about him on tape

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.959
<v Speaker 9>was how he can contain the edge and defend the edge.

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 9>And I baby, look, where do people attack you this

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 9>year on the edge have mercy because I feel like

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 9>his I felt like his size didn't take away from

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 9>his speed and to your point, the explosiveness, his ability

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 9>to shed and tackle, his power was a problem for tackles.

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:50.960
<v Speaker 9>And so I was looking at him because if you're smart,

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 9>you're not just gonna run at the Marcus Lawrence. The

0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 9>Cowboys have been needing an edge opposite of DeMarcus Lawrence

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 9>that can consistently stop the run. You got guys that

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 9>can rush the pastor you have and had a guy

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 9>that can go over there and man that spot and

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<v Speaker 9>make people have to make decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I was really looking forward to him.

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<v Speaker 9>So to see, you know that this year, to see

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<v Speaker 9>him not have that opportunity to be on the field

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<v Speaker 9>where he just.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't get on the field, was that stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 9>But also with Schoonmaker, Doug, twelve personnel could have helped

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<v Speaker 9>you a lot this year.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't that they didn't run it. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that there's an element of football that matters, and

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<v Speaker 3>people know Big.

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<v Speaker 9>Homie ain't catching no passes for real, So it don't

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<v Speaker 9>matter if you running them out there and you're doing

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<v Speaker 9>some twelve personnel type stuff people are. They're focusing on

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<v Speaker 9>Ferguson and having another receiving tight end could have made

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<v Speaker 9>a hell of a difference and the way this offense

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<v Speaker 9>was run.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't get me wrong, I did.

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<v Speaker 9>Like some of the things that Schoolmaker did in the

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<v Speaker 9>blocking game and stuff, but of the lack of receiving

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<v Speaker 9>from that second tight end, it hurt this year. And

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<v Speaker 9>I do think it could have opened up this offense

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<v Speaker 9>a little more if you got some production there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they started treating Ferguson like a wide receiver. You're

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<v Speaker 6>seeing shit orders playing on him, you know, and stuff

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<v Speaker 6>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think I'm with you guys on the jury

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<v Speaker 4>still being out for this class. But I think you

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<v Speaker 4>also have to look at the results and what's on paper,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's the fact that you had eight draft picks

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<v Speaker 4>and only two of them were active for every game

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<v Speaker 4>this season, and only two of them were really, uh

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<v Speaker 4>key players that were on the field quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I look at Schoonmakers being probably the best draft pick,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, based on his production, that's probably not

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<v Speaker 4>the best thing in the world. I think, Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>think t J. Bass is the best rookie in this

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<v Speaker 4>entire class. Yeah, what TJ. Bass was able to do

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<v Speaker 4>and bring to the field. You also got to look

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<v Speaker 4>at Hunter Lippy and what he was able to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that fun with Sammy was tough. TJ. Bass.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he was kind of the saving grace of

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<v Speaker 4>the rookie class and.

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<v Speaker 6>Him, right, we're talking about you should have been drafted.

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 6>I mean there's a lot of people that you know, like, damn,

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 6>we missed on that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Put some put some respect on Jalen Brooks a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I he didn't get to he didn't get to do

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<v Speaker 3>a whole whole bunch.

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<v Speaker 9>But I feel like the times we did see him,

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<v Speaker 9>he was productive. But he's showed you more than what

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<v Speaker 9>I think people expected of him, especially like coming in

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<v Speaker 9>I'm thinking, i mean we thought, like, all, this guy's

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<v Speaker 9>going to be his body, and then he comes in

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<v Speaker 9>and he's sure, hands, strong, hands, really weird, sneaky quickness

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<v Speaker 9>which makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>He uses his length really well, those long strides.

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<v Speaker 9>I personally do think he does have some upside as

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<v Speaker 9>a receiver, and we could see maybe what he's capable of.

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<v Speaker 3>You have something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll say he's probably the only draft pick that overperformed.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just about to say that if you were

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<v Speaker 2>looking at top to bottom one through through eight of

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<v Speaker 2>the draft picks last year, he's the only one that

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<v Speaker 2>went over show asterisk.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, got to be fair to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the only one that that went above the expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody else was probably below expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>Have y'all heard anything about Eric Scott? Has there been

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<v Speaker 3>any like? And don't get me wrong, I caught.

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<v Speaker 9>Up with him early on, because when you looked at

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<v Speaker 9>him on tape, you said, Okay, this guy compressed, he's sticky,

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<v Speaker 9>got that little you know, that velcrow little.

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<v Speaker 3>He plays the them absolutely love.

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<v Speaker 9>Them, yes, right, And so obviously we didn't get a

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<v Speaker 9>chance to see him. He did have a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>of a point in a preseason where he was struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>I caught up with him.

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<v Speaker 9>I asked him they were working, If I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 9>they were working a zone concepts with him, because you

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<v Speaker 9>got to be able to do both from this place.

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<v Speaker 11>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>So did y'all hear anything throughout the season or any

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<v Speaker 9>updates on him?

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<v Speaker 5>Not specifically?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think what you what you were outlining

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<v Speaker 2>is is about the rundown on Eric's okay. They're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get him more comfortable with his own concepts. He

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<v Speaker 2>played a lot of man at Southern Miss. He was

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<v Speaker 2>mostly press corner. I mean, he was up top and physical.

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<v Speaker 2>They want him to be able to track at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time and cover, and I just think he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>ready for that as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you're a six round pick, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Expected to have a little bit of leeway get into

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<v Speaker 2>a development, a side of things, come back from camp.

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<v Speaker 5>This year, he's going to have to have a big camp.

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<v Speaker 7>And well for him strap.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm asking they clearly they can.

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<v Speaker 7>Pick this draft to move up and get him. Talk

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<v Speaker 7>about Scott.

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<v Speaker 9>This year, Well, is the DC gonna be designed because

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<v Speaker 9>of the same he might not like.

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<v Speaker 7>He might not like him. Now, let's tell you what

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<v Speaker 7>talk about this tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I know we're going over here, but really quick.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there is an opportunity for Eric Scott to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to jump in if they decide to move

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<v Speaker 4>on from Jordan Lewis. I think there's an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 4>him and.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicol Okay, good to think about it, Yeah, okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's opportunities that could line up for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these rookies, the twenty twenty three rookies specifically spots

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<v Speaker 2>at edge rusher for Villiami for Hookos, spots on the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line for Austin Richards. Is it foregone conclusion that

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<v Speaker 2>that's where they're gonna end up plugging in?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot that can happen between now.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, including from a coaching staff standpoint, like I

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<v Speaker 2>should just eloquently put a couple of moments ago, who's

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<v Speaker 2>your DC, who's your head coach? Who is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the opposite side of the building. We will

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<v Speaker 2>continue to monitor that as we go on Tomorrow, We're

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to dive deeper into this twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>draft class. I want to do some more telling me more.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have some Twitter on the twenty and we'll continue

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<v Speaker 2>to get you ready for ninety nine days away the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan coming up here in just

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 5>That does it for us here on the initial episode

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<v Speaker 5>here in twenty twenty four for Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Beam, Zach Walchuk, Nick Harris, Brian brought us Aisha Morrison,

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<v Speaker 2>'m Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see you tomorrow.

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