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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 2: Today is Wednesday, January sixteenth, and we are now officially

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Speaker 2: ninety nine days from the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Draft Show for the first time in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, presented by Miller Lte. We will be

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Speaker 2: here twice a week from here on out. Unfortunately a

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Speaker 2: couple weeks early, but we're here.

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Speaker 3: Nonetheless, you think you're so funny, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: Ninety nine days? I looked that up this morning and

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Speaker 2: I had a mini heart attack myself.

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Speaker 4: I will mention that it's January seventeenth and not sixteenth,

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Speaker 4: but it's fine.

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Speaker 2: What it's I say, sixteenth, It's okay. It's Wednesday, January yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in the Draft Show. Nick's already cut off. We've

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Speaker 2: got Zach Wolchuk, Nick Harris, the Great, Brian brought us

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Speaker 2: Ayisha Morrison, I'm Kyle Yeomen's Chris Beame in the back.

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Speaker 2: We will have Bobby Belt in the rotation as well

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Speaker 2: throughout the Draft Show here this season and his draft.

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Speaker 5: Season, so we will have all those guys.

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Speaker 2: But Brian, it's always, uh, it's always bittersweet to be

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Speaker 2: back in here because one we're getting the talk draft season,

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Speaker 2: but two, it means the Cowboys season has come to

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Speaker 2: a close.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's usually the way things work. And you know,

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Speaker 6: you felt like that maybe that you'd have a couple

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Speaker 6: more opportunities to to kind of see this football team play,

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Speaker 6: but it really is you know, all year long. They

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Speaker 6: have your season, but the scouts are working on the draft,

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Speaker 6: you know, and we just pick it up. We we

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Speaker 6: cover the season and then we try and catch up

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Speaker 6: with the scouts and what's going on.

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Speaker 7: But you know, this is the way, you know, this

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Speaker 7: is the way you make your team better. You go

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Speaker 7: out and you evaluate. We always talk about in the show.

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Speaker 6: We educate and investigate are the two things that we

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Speaker 6: do here and so, you know, looking forward to doing

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Speaker 6: that with all you It's always a fun time of

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Speaker 6: the year for me because I lived this, this has

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Speaker 6: been my life and I'm so happy that I have

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Speaker 6: teammates here that have a passion for it as well.

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Speaker 6: And that's I think what makes this show so great

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Speaker 6: is the camaraderie, but the discussion about these players and

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Speaker 6: how to make not only the Dallas Cowboys better, but

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Speaker 6: we have fans from all over the country that watched

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Speaker 6: this show and learn about players, so we welcome you

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 5: Can't wade and it's always a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: The more you dive into the draft process, and I

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Speaker 2: usual got her first taste of it last year, Zach

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Speaker 2: got his first official taste of it.

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Speaker 5: Nick, you're the rookie of the show this time around.

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Speaker 2: So the deeper you get into it, the more fans

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Speaker 2: enjoy the learning, and the more learning that's had on

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Speaker 2: our side as well. Investigate and educate all day every day.

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Speaker 2: And Nick, you've you've been around a lot of these

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Speaker 2: prospects from the recruit root trail. Excited to see how

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Speaker 2: you kind of bring that extra taste into it on

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Speaker 4: Honestly, me too, just kind of give everybody some perspective

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Speaker 4: on where I come from. I started working for the

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys. This was the first day, was the first

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Speaker 4: day of the draft for me last year. So while

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Speaker 4: I was getting everything since you wait to give him

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Speaker 4: my hr paperwork in, I was watching you guys trying

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Speaker 4: to handle who's going to get trapped in the first round.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, this is my first time going through the

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Speaker 4: draft process with you guys. Where I came from, I

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Speaker 4: was covering college football recruiting for four to five years

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Speaker 4: with twenty four seven Sports and Rivals. My last two

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Speaker 4: you see those high school kids get the stars, put

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Speaker 4: whenever one of these two stars gets drafted in the

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Speaker 4: be like, you're stupid so looking forward to it?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I can't wait for that. That's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, well I was going to be a three star

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Speaker 4: I will say twenty twenty six draft is when my

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Speaker 7: That's awesome. I issue year number two.

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Speaker 5: How is it different for you this time around?

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Speaker 9: Well, if I'm being human and being very honest, I'm

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Speaker 9: not nearly as nervous as I was. It's it's this

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Speaker 9: is not an easy feat coming up here, and Brian

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Speaker 9: used to tell me, like, you can't fake it doing this,

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Speaker 9: and so the you know the work that you have

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Speaker 9: will hold your feet to the fire.

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Speaker 3: You know, and you guys will too.

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Speaker 9: So I think coming into this season, I'm far more

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Speaker 9: just comfortable being with you guys, because I know you

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Speaker 9: at this point, and as far as the process goes,

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Speaker 9: I'm just learning to I can trust myself more, you know,

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited. That's actually I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's be pumped up the fact that you're going

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Speaker 2: like and you're back into your rhythm that you already

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Speaker 2: had last year, and I think everybody can speak to

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Speaker 2: you did a phenomenal job and your number one, your

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Speaker 5: I can't wait.

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Speaker 7: I will say this, The anxiety never goes away, That's true,

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Speaker 7: it never really does.

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Speaker 6: But I mean because like you say, you're you feel responsible,

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Speaker 6: you really do, and especially when you're sitting in that

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Speaker 6: you feel responsible for what's going out there, and so yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's that's the great thing about it. And you you

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Speaker 6: And it's nice when people remind you about the makes though,

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Speaker 6: because that's that makes you feel a little bit better

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Speaker 2: It happens every once in a while you'll get one

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Speaker 5: But more often than.

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Speaker 2: Not, it's why did you guys have this guy so

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Speaker 5: And it always turns into that Zak you had that

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Yoshivash ended up making me look pretty good.

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Speaker 7: I got a cup.

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Speaker 10: But then yeah, there were some you know, Emmanuel Forbes.

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Speaker 10: me getting benched over there in Washington, what do you know?

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Speaker 10: But hey, it's part of the process, and I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to dive into. I do want

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Speaker 5: You give up.

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Speaker 2: Forty to forty eight points, almost had forty two. I'm

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Speaker 2: on a dime. I mean, one week we're talking about

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Speaker 5: Dan Quinn's a shoeing.

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Speaker 2: For head coaching jobs around the league, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden you put a halt on him, really

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Speaker 2: every conversation, and you don't know what the future of

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Speaker 2: this franchise really looks like, Brian when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the draft and really the team's perspective, how much can

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Speaker 7: It can change quite a bit, you know.

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Speaker 6: And now everybody goes they'll have their meetings, they've dismissed

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Speaker 6: the team, you know, the coaching staff, you'll get everything

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Speaker 6: kind of squared up with see what happens with DQ

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Speaker 6: for him being gone. Do you have to get a

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Speaker 6: is he a four three three four? You know, does

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Speaker 6: those players that we really watched all year that Dan

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Speaker 7: They have to go back now and.

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Speaker 6: Bring back potential players that they might not have liked

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Speaker 7: For the team. But you have a new defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6: So any type of tweak with the coaching staff could

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Speaker 2: How much does that put a pressure on adential hire

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Speaker 2: them to come in and immediately either change or keep

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's going to have to be a

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Speaker 4: pressure to change, right because if they're brought in, they're

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Speaker 4: brought in to change. That's what kind of the whole

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Speaker 4: conversations are this week about. You know, how much change

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Speaker 4: do you want to instill on the cornerstones of this roster,

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Speaker 4: the cornerstones of this team. And I think if someone's

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Speaker 4: to do that, especially considering when you look at it

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Speaker 4: from a draft perspective, what the twenty twenty three draft

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Speaker 4: class put on the table this last season. Being able

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Speaker 4: to have a successful twenty four class, I think there's

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Speaker 4: even more pressure on that. Whether that be for a

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Speaker 4: think that would be the equal pressure in that sense.

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Speaker 2: Man, it really does change things pretty quickly. But how

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Speaker 2: did it change your perspective on the way that this

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Speaker 2: roster's been the way that they were bounced out of

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Speaker 2: that wild card round and really dismantled by Green Bay.

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Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I think that, and really I don't

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Speaker 9: want to upset anybody, but listen, this league is ever changing, evolving.

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Speaker 9: I feel like I personally felt like the big nickel

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Speaker 9: of with some of the things they do on the

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Speaker 9: defensive side of the ball has been really good for

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Speaker 9: this system. But I do think, just like every other

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Speaker 9: thing in football, at some point in time, people figure

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Speaker 9: I think this is year three, four, whichever year it is.

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Speaker 9: I think some defenses, I mean, because it would be

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Speaker 10: I think we were pretty excited about overshowing. Right, So

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Speaker 10: You need to get bigger, you need to get bigger,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I said on our show yesterday, I said one

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Speaker 3: The Rams have turned it around and figured their life out.

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Speaker 3: There's no avoiding them at this point.

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Speaker 10: And they got to figure out an offense. How do

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Speaker 2: All training camp long, run the ball, run the ball,

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Speaker 2: That's troubling to me. If you're saying there's an emphasis

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Speaker 5: Right now for the Skallas Cowboys team?

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Speaker 4: For me, I'm looking offensive line. I want a guy

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Speaker 4: He's a guy that could play all five. I'm almost

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Speaker 10: The deepest position groups are offensive tackle and wide receiver.

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Speaker 10: I think he's six ' two was an outstanding tackle

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Speaker 10: at college. But to me, he's got that squatty guard body.

442
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Speaker 10: Those are two kind of guys to me, I'm looking

443
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Speaker 10: at if they fall. The twenty four Graham Barton, I

444
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Speaker 10: think is the Nasties offensive lineman that I looked at.

445
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Speaker 10: He's a finisher. He wants to put your ass on

446
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Speaker 10: the ground, right, and I think you need a little

447
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Speaker 10: bit of that physicality and toughness.

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Speaker 3: What let Briano.

449
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Speaker 2: No, he just said drop that ass on the ground,

450
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Speaker 2: to put your ass on the ground, but he drops

451
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Speaker 2: that ass.

452
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to look at Aisa and if we could,

453
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Speaker 5: wanted to throw back.

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Speaker 7: One of the best scouting terms I've ever heard.

455
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Speaker 4: Of, that telling me the guy from Doukie drops.

456
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Speaker 2: His A's not a family friendly show anymore.

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Speaker 7: We're taking exactly not.

458
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Speaker 3: Listen.

459
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Speaker 9: I don't want to be the cliche and mentioned linebacker,

460
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Speaker 9: which you already took into You've already taken offensive line man.

461
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Speaker 7: Listen to take a linebacker. I'll dance with you here.

462
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you talk about you know, late later

463
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Speaker 9: down in the in the rounds, you know, maybe not

464
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Speaker 9: taking one day one, maybe not even day two, depending

465
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Speaker 9: on I like Maurice Lefu from Notre Dame outside linebacker.

466
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Speaker 3: I took a lot.

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Speaker 9: I took a look at him. I like his lateral quickness.

468
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Speaker 9: He has the ability to rush the passer. But his y'all,

469
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Speaker 9: he plays that line of aggressiveness like very very well.

470
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Speaker 3: He stays.

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Speaker 9: He's even tempered, but he can be a little hot headed,

472
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Speaker 9: and he's his motor is crazy. He's listen. Yeah, he's

473
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Speaker 9: someone he has the hair and everything.

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Speaker 3: But he was a buckets.

475
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Speaker 9: Ward finance as well, so he's he's People know that

476
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Speaker 9: this guy can play.

477
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Speaker 3: They didn't. They didn't. They were top ten in defense

478
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Speaker 3: and this crazy guy was a part of it because

479
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Speaker 3: he plays with his hair on fire.

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Speaker 9: But I just like how he comes downhill and tackles.

481
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Speaker 9: He's physical, and he also has coverage instincts. Yeah yeah,

482
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Speaker 9: I mean, honestly, when you look at this linebacker class,

483
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Speaker 9: a lot of them can't come and it's it's kind

484
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Speaker 9: of cool because we talked about it last year, just

485
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Speaker 9: kind of the evolution of the position.

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Speaker 3: But he's a good.

487
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Speaker 9: Balance of I can cover, but I can come downhill

488
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Speaker 9: and I'm gonna make you pay. And I do think

489
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Speaker 9: that that's something you want to look for. But I

490
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Speaker 9: look at the lateral quickness too. When you're talking about

491
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Speaker 9: how you beat some of these guys that do a

492
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Speaker 9: lot of motion and all that stuff or attack your linebackers.

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Speaker 3: He has some of that in them.

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Speaker 9: So I was looking at him last night and I

495
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Speaker 9: was very impressed by what I saw.

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Speaker 3: So maybe if you want to.

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Speaker 9: Get a guy, maybe like the third round or fourth round,

498
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Speaker 9: if that's what you decide to do.

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Speaker 3: This guy can ball.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And one thing to add about Mary's lula foul. He

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Speaker 4: comes trump on file. I believe luifoul pronunciation. We're getting

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Speaker 4: on that. But he comes from Punaho, Hawaii, which is

504
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Speaker 4: a north Honolulu, and those guys are known for being

505
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Speaker 4: run stoppers. I mean Notre Dame loves to go get

506
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Speaker 4: those Samoan guys to fill into that second level. There's

507
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Speaker 4: another one we'll talk about next year in Nuafe tou Halamaca,

508
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Speaker 4: but talking about Luifal.

509
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Speaker 5: For this year.

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Speaker 4: He started he started as a bit nick. He started

511
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Speaker 4: as to be in high school and being able to

512
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Speaker 4: add that weight, get up to two forty and add

513
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Speaker 4: that run stopping ability that he trains with down in

514
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Speaker 4: Honolulu because they can't throw the ball down there. I

515
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Speaker 4: mean I'm sorry too. What was the only one that

516
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Speaker 4: really to really come out of there that could So

517
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Speaker 4: having to go through those four years run stopping and

518
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Speaker 4: being able to fill that and then also having that

519
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Speaker 4: dB background, it really helped him once he got to

520
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Speaker 4: Notre Dame. He's a guy I really like as well

521
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Speaker 4: that has a little bit of versatility.

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Speaker 3: Lo raw, he's still to me.

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Speaker 9: To me, I think he still has some stuff that

524
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Speaker 9: he has to work on. But I like that because

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Speaker 9: I think he has all the tools and you can

526
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Speaker 9: just put him out there and.

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Speaker 2: Let him go.

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Speaker 5: That sounds sad, Yeah, sounds right.

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Speaker 3: You got some hit stake to him.

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Speaker 10: So the one position group that I think is drastically

531
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Speaker 10: different from last year that is pretty thin is running back,

532
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Speaker 10: and that's another.

533
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Speaker 7: Spot hey looking at that.

534
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Speaker 10: Was a group that last year we were talking about

535
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Speaker 10: ten deep at running back.

536
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Speaker 7: We're like, man, you can get a guy on day two.

537
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Speaker 7: You're feeling really good about it.

538
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Speaker 10: This year, the best guy that I've watched so far

539
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Speaker 10: Trey Benson from Florida State.

540
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Speaker 7: I think he can do everything you want.

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Speaker 10: But I mean a Jonathan Brooks out of Texas I

542
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Speaker 10: think is a really good player, but he's coming off

543
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Speaker 10: of the injury, right, A lot of these guys decided

544
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Speaker 10: to go back. I was high on Donovan Edwards from Michigan.

545
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Speaker 10: He's going back to school, Trayvon Henderson from Ohio State

546
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Speaker 10: going back to school. You know, Blake Quorum now has

547
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Speaker 10: put himself in the conversation of being and he's five

548
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Speaker 10: to eight. Do you want to go with another smaller

549
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Speaker 10: back there? So I mean running back and linebacker the

550
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Speaker 10: two spots that I think are big needs for this team.

551
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Speaker 10: But I don't think that there's really going to be

552
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Speaker 10: a guy when you look at draft value that you

553
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Speaker 10: can take super high.

554
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Speaker 2: And even like Jonathan Brooks at the top of that,

555
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's up there on the list, but he's

556
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Speaker 2: coming off of an injury as well. So it feels

557
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Speaker 2: like this entire running back class has questions. And this

558
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Speaker 2: is a team that was in the market for a running.

559
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Speaker 5: Back last year. They took Duzwan in the sixth round.

560
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Speaker 2: But even before that, we were sitting in this podcast

561
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Speaker 2: studio and looking at guys like just Zach sharbonnet Chan,

562
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Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby. It felt like every round they were looking

563
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Speaker 2: at a guy and then he would he would get

564
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Speaker 2: slipped out.

565
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Speaker 5: From underneath them. Yeah, they didn't end up getting anybody.

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Speaker 6: There's value, there's value in the and that that you guys,

567
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Speaker 6: you're right though. That position was so deep, it was

568
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Speaker 6: a fun group to study. I'm gonna throw a guy

569
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Speaker 6: out at you real quick here if I could, I

570
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Speaker 6: know were up against on a break here.

571
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Speaker 5: We can we can get one guy in.

572
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Speaker 7: How about this?

573
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Speaker 6: I drafted this guy's dad at Philadelphia and Jeremiah Trotter Junior.

574
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Speaker 7: If you're talking about linebackers, he liked this.

575
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Speaker 6: Yeah, this guy's my Nick Bolton from Mckansas City Chiefs.

576
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Speaker 9: We loved Nick Bolton in twenty How.

577
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Speaker 5: I feel today Frisco lone star.

578
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Speaker 7: I'm and it's only gonna get better.

579
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Speaker 6: Kid. But yeah, this kid, like you said, draft his

580
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Speaker 6: dad in ninety eight and while I was with the Eagles,

581
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Speaker 6: and he plays with fire and past and he's super

582
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Speaker 6: competitive the way he moves now. People say, watch the

583
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Speaker 6: Duke game. He had some problems in that game. He

584
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 6: absolutely wasn't one of his best games. Watch Notre Dame,

585
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 6: watch North Carolina, watch some of these other games. You'll

586
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Speaker 6: kind of figure some things out. But this guy plays

587
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 6: down hill, he plays fast, He knows how to cover.

588
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 6: He's got the lateral Jeerley, the quickness, the sideline, the sideline.

589
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 6: I saw him at the time, the ball carriers.

590
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Speaker 7: At the sticks.

591
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Speaker 6: He's hitting the guy and is stopping right there. This

592
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Speaker 6: guy's a powerful player. His dad was a powerful player.

593
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Speaker 6: He's got instinct too. This guy's a wrap up tackler.

594
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Speaker 6: He can finish and all that. He's six foot though.

595
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Speaker 6: I don't know where teams are going to look at him,

596
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Speaker 6: but when you watch him play again, it reminded me

597
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Speaker 6: of Nick Bolton when he was at Missouri.

598
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Speaker 7: That he was shorter, but he was making every single play.

599
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Speaker 6: And so Jeremiah Trotter junior my guy h And I'll

600
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Speaker 6: say it right now because I think he's a hell

601
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Speaker 6: of a football player.

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Speaker 5: So you drafted his dad?

603
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Speaker 7: Yeah, who was?

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Speaker 2: I know the draft great are not complete as a whole,

605
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Speaker 2: but he's a better prospect, more well well rounded.

606
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Speaker 6: Took his dad in the third round. His son's better,

607
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Speaker 6: His sons would probably go a lot higher. Yeah, exactly,

608
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Speaker 6: did I see him right?

609
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I watched him.

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Speaker 9: I watched him last night and uh, I literally wrote down.

612
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Speaker 9: I said, if you're gonna chip him, you better bury

613
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Speaker 9: him because he's not. He's hair on fire. Steal that, yeah,

614
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Speaker 9: you can definitely steal like you you better bury him.

615
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Speaker 3: And I was looking at to your point.

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Speaker 9: I said, his turbos are crazy turbos being the closing

617
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Speaker 9: speed he has.

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Speaker 3: You know how you watch Michael and you see him

619
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Speaker 3: close on.

620
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Speaker 5: People downhill acceleration.

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Speaker 9: And it's it's crazy. He just jumps on people so quickly.

622
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Speaker 9: I did write down some people may worry about his side.

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Speaker 7: They're worry about have we.

624
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Speaker 3: Not learned our lesson from Ivan Pace?

625
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Speaker 12: Oh?

626
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just respectfully, have we not learned our lesson?

627
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Speaker 11: There?

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Speaker 5: We're talking about successes as a show. That was one. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I was went on the whole one. I was the

630
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Speaker 5: he was talking about it. He was texting me last

631
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Speaker 5: last year.

632
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Speaker 7: How thattairs?

633
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

635
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Speaker 9: And also to with Trotter, what stood out to me

636
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Speaker 9: was are the ball skills when the ball's in the air.

637
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's snatching that thing.

638
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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's good at under. I mean he plays with

639
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Speaker 7: his eyes.

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Speaker 3: Really he snatch that.

641
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Speaker 5: His dad had nine interceptions in his career.

642
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Speaker 7: His dad was a badass.

643
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Speaker 5: He really was four time pro bowler. So has a

644
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Speaker 5: better prospect.

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Speaker 7: I'll take that.

646
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Speaker 5: I'll take a four time pro bowler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he finished this.

648
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Speaker 9: He finished his career at thirteen sacks, thirteen PBUs as

649
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Speaker 9: a yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: Boss moving around.

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Speaker 4: Wait till we start talking about Frank gor versus Frank

652
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Speaker 4: cor Junior.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, little Southern miss action.

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Speaker 12: All right.

655
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Speaker 2: When we come back here on the Draft Show, we'll

656
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Speaker 2: continue on with some tell me we've got some pet

657
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Speaker 2: cat abilities early on, some some guys that we just

658
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Speaker 2: feel like we're gravitating toward. We're gonna talk about it

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Speaker 2: when we come back with more of the Draft Show

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Speaker 2: right after this.

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Speaker 13: I'm Dak Prescott, quarterback of the Dollars Cowboys.

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Speaker 14: not there. He escape fleft. He'll run for a first down.

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Speaker 5: Just like football.

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Speaker 2: We are ninety nine days away from the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Zach Wildchuck. I'm Kyle Yeoman's man. It is crazy. Ninety

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Speaker 2: nine days. It feels like we have zero time, and

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Speaker 2: I'll be at the Shrine game down the down the

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Speaker 2: hallway here at the Star first year that.

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Speaker 5: The Shryne Game is gonna be in town, so yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be really cool.

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Speaker 7: But Dave Burgler's gonna be in town.

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Speaker 5: He told me so, he's coming to the Shrine Games.

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Speaker 7: Coming in. He's coming to check it out. We have

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Speaker 7: a show. We might have to pop him in.

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Speaker 5: We'll make sure he's in here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as much as these All Star Games are

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Speaker 2: gonna show, they're gonna start popping up pet cats left in.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna start popping up these players of interest, guys

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Speaker 2: that you just love and practice. He love their tenacity,

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Speaker 2: you love their their fight. And then it's also going

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Speaker 2: to take a knock on some guys at the same time.

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Speaker 2: So before we even get into All Star Games, I

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Speaker 2: want to know some of the guys that you guys

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Speaker 2: are looking at. And we'll start with Zach Waltschuk who's

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Speaker 2: your early pet cat any position. It could be a

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Speaker 2: position a need, could be just an overall BPA.

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Speaker 5: What you got So?

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Speaker 10: I mentioned Cedar Gray, linebacker from North Carolina earlier. But

738
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Speaker 10: probably my favorite player I've watched so far as Javon Boller,

739
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Speaker 10: the defensive bag from Georgia.

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Speaker 7: Like this dude's just a dog. You saw action as

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Speaker 7: a freshman.

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Speaker 10: He was named defensive MVP of the national title game

743
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Speaker 10: against TCU and the semi final against Ohio State. So

744
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Speaker 10: big game player. He will thump you, super physical downhill player.

745
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Speaker 10: And you know he's not a guy that's gonna throw

746
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Speaker 10: his body in there. We've seen that a lot. He

747
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Speaker 10: will wrap up and he will run absolutely through you.

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Speaker 10: He's got a reckless abandon about him. He's really good

749
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Speaker 10: against the run, can come down cover the slot as well.

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Speaker 10: That's what's interesting about this guy is a safety. I

751
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Speaker 10: think he can match up and lineup inside against the

752
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Speaker 10: slot as well. Love his aggression and play temperament. He's

753
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Speaker 10: a competitor, gets everyone lined up, like you can see

754
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Speaker 10: the football intelligence and the leadership back there. Everybody on

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Speaker 10: that Georgia secondary. And if you're taking a Georgia player,

756
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Speaker 10: that plays in the secondary, you're probably getting a dog.

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Speaker 10: To me, he's the best one that is back there.

758
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Speaker 10: Everyone's looking to him. Am I in the right place?

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Speaker 10: I lined up short area quickness, He's got recovery speed,

760
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Speaker 10: high motor. Guy, can chase down plays from the back side.

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Speaker 10: I'm a big Jevon Bullard fan. I think he might

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Speaker 10: be the best dB that I've watched period.

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Speaker 5: Period, like this year and.

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Speaker 7: Just this year.

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Speaker 5: Oh, just this year. I was about to say, I

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Speaker 5: was like, oh my good.

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Speaker 10: But I've watched a lot of the top corners in

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Speaker 10: this draft so far, and there's some good ones like

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Speaker 10: Arnold from Alabama. I think he's the best corner in

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Speaker 10: the draft. But Bullard just as a pure defensive back prospect.

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Speaker 10: To me, he's my most fun tape study so far.

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Speaker 2: It may not bother many because he does play safety

773
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Speaker 2: and he has some safety nickel flex. But he's five

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Speaker 2: foot eleven and he's listed at a buck nine five,

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Speaker 2: so it may even be smaller whenever.

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Speaker 5: The combine comes around. Does that bother you at all?

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Speaker 10: He just plays bigger and like for his frame. To me,

778
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Speaker 10: he doesn't look skinny like it's not when you're looking

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Speaker 10: and last year we saw Emmanuel Forbes and you're like, dang.

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Speaker 7: That guy is wiry.

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Speaker 10: To me, he's filled out pretty well, and he could

782
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Speaker 10: probably put on some weight. I'm sure that teams might

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Speaker 10: want him to do so, but the way that he

784
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Speaker 10: moves and the way he's just so physical and tough

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Speaker 10: to me, the size is not an issue for him

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Speaker 10: at all.

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Speaker 6: Love that there's another one of those light corners weight wise.

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Speaker 6: Has anybody seeing Abrams drain from Missouri?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's funny because I was I was about

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Speaker 4: to mention your guy. I was gonna mention the other

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Speaker 4: Missouri corner.

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Speaker 7: Okay, go ahead, no, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna take an innest Rakestraw from from Missouri.

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Speaker 4: He's a he's a Duncanville guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 4: that I wanted to throw out a precursor here. Not

796
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Speaker 4: every pet cat I'm gonna have is gonna be a

797
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Speaker 4: guy I used to cover.

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Speaker 5: From the guy.

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Speaker 4: But there's two legitimate corners here from Missouri that are

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Speaker 4: going to bed one day. Two type guys. I look

801
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Speaker 4: at inn this Rakestraw. I want to start from the

802
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Speaker 4: top with him. He was a guy back in the

803
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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen or going into the twenty twenty recruiting class.

804
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Speaker 4: He had zero offers going into the final two weeks

805
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Speaker 4: of the recruiting cycle. Nothing. He was looking at FCS options.

806
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Speaker 4: Alcorn State was one that was popping out for him.

807
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Speaker 4: He had a huge state championship against north Shore, Alabama, Missouri, Texas.

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Speaker 4: They all offered immediately and those were the three hats

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Speaker 4: on the table for him on signing day, and he

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Speaker 4: chose Missouri, and he could have gone to Alabama, he

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Speaker 4: could have gone to Texas. Missouri showed him a lot

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Speaker 4: of love and it was a huge win for Eli

813
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Speaker 4: drink Woitz. There's actually a video out there of drink

814
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Speaker 4: Woitz throwing a drink in the air and losing his

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Speaker 4: mind over getting Rakestraw on signing day. But he started

816
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Speaker 4: year one for them, all ten games in that twenty

817
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Speaker 4: twenty season, and he has started every game since that.

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Speaker 4: He's been healthy at least this past year. He didn't

819
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Speaker 4: get thrown on him. He does not get tested at all,

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Speaker 4: and it allowed for opportunities for Chris Abrams Strain and

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Speaker 4: Chris Adens. Strain got a lot of work as a result,

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Speaker 4: and it's actually huge for him because I think going

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Speaker 4: into the season for Chris Abrams Strain, you were looking

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Speaker 4: at a guy who was, you know, potentially a Day

825
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Speaker 4: three type guy, you know, but just needed reps. And

826
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Speaker 4: boy did he get him because and this Ray Charles

827
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Speaker 4: on the other side locking things down. He's six foot

828
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Speaker 4: one eighty eight. He's gonna be really lanky, but he's

829
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Speaker 4: got really long arms. He's gonna press a guy right

830
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Speaker 4: off the line and get physical. He has that Duncanville

831
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Speaker 4: physicality tenacity that you have to see from a corner.

832
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Speaker 4: He's got the aura. He's definitely got it. He's a

833
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Speaker 4: guy that's starting to sneak into that late first round

834
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Speaker 4: type of type of territory. I think for me, I

835
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Speaker 4: would take him mid second. But I think he's a

836
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Speaker 4: guy that's awesome. I really do enjoy him.

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Speaker 6: Those Missouri corners are fun. They're they're a good group

838
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Speaker 6: to watch. You're gonna help me with this name from

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Speaker 6: U C. L A the edge Rusher. That's my guy's

840
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Speaker 6: first second.

841
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Speaker 4: I want to see if I can find it like Laatsu.

842
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: I believe it's Latsu. But again, we're gonna'm about to

843
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Speaker 4: go through all of these.

844
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Speaker 7: Is it lot Tolatchu? For sure?

845
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Speaker 6: I feel embarrassed because, like I said, I'm trying to

846
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Speaker 6: learn these names. But I'll tell you what. You watched

847
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Speaker 6: his tape. He's an edge from a U c.

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Speaker 15: L A.

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Speaker 6: He transferred from Washington. He's a no nonsense player. He's

850
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Speaker 6: really lentless, effort, pursuit, NonStop. Most of his work is

851
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Speaker 6: done from the two point stance. This guy's sixty five

852
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Speaker 6: two sixty five, you know, so you're kind of thinking, oh, well,

853
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Speaker 6: maybe he's got a three four defensive end kind of

854
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Speaker 6: a build. You know that that that just that that

855
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 6: you know, five technique head up guy.

856
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 7: Now, this guy could play on the edge.

857
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Speaker 6: And when you start to talk about him, it's the speed,

858
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 6: it's the quickness, it's the length. He gives blockers trouble.

859
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 6: He breaks guys down. He's a swat swim. Hands are

860
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 6: always going, NonStop technique. He's got diverse pass rush moves too.

861
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 6: And I really do like this kid. I know Dallas

862
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 6: might not be looking at an edge, but if you

863
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Speaker 6: want to talk about a guy, if you if you're

864
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Speaker 6: one of these fans that maybe another team that's looking

865
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Speaker 6: at edge, look at Latou from from UCLA.

866
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Speaker 7: Where's number fifteen? Now?

867
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Speaker 6: The thing about him is he's dealt with some injury history.

868
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 6: He's he's had a medical history and he had to

869
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Speaker 6: like step away from the game and then got clear

870
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 6: back to being able to play. So we'll see how

871
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 6: that affects him. But man, this guy as a run defender,

872
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 6: pass rusher, the way he plays is just really really outstanding,

873
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 6: And I think the Indie combined will tell the story

874
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 6: of this guy. If he slides down the draft, he

875
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Speaker 6: might be one of these guys on the board at

876
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Speaker 6: twenty four that might If he might be, You're gonna

877
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 6: look at it and say, maybe it's just too much

878
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 6: that you can't pass a guy like this, because but

879
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 6: you know, we some of the comparisons are what Lucas

880
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 6: van Ness, the kid we saw from Iowa last year,

881
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 6: that kind of some of that comparison.

882
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 7: Maybe a little bit better player, I think.

883
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: I would definitely say I think a.

884
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 10: Little more Ben Yeah, definitely like lotch you. To me,

885
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 10: I think is the best pass rusher in the draft

886
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 10: in terms of edges him and versus two for two.

887
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 10: To me, I think the guy that I'm gonna lost

888
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 10: again that I could be totally wrong on. And I

889
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 10: know I've talked to Brian about this, and he's getting

890
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 10: love like he's the best edge rusher in the draft

891
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 10: is Dallas Turner. Okay, I don't think I'm an Dallas

892
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 10: Turner guy. To me, I'm taking Lat two over Dallas Turner.

893
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 10: To me, Dallas Turner looks the part. He physically is very,

894
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 10: very impressive, but I think he runs himself out of play.

895
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 10: Sometimes he's got a good stab and a rip inside

896
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 10: he drops off into coverage.

897
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 7: Is also a little bit weird and know why you're

898
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 7: doing that sometimes with him.

899
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 10: But to me, I just didn't see as hyped as

900
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 10: he is as a top ten type of player. I

901
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 10: didn't see that when I watched him play as a

902
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 10: freak athlete. And I think scouts will look at that

903
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 10: and be like, gosh, I can make him an absolute

904
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 10: Pro Bowl All Pro player.

905
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 7: But give me a lot too.

906
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 10: If I had to, if I had to pick between

907
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 10: the two of them, I think the guy. If you

908
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 10: filled the twenty four goodness, I mean.

909
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 7: The medicals are going to be. The medicals are going

910
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 7: to be.

911
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 5: That's what it's gonna be.

912
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 7: So much fun.

913
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: Well, if you're comparing him to Lucas van Ness, I

914
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: mean Vanas was taken by the Packers at thirteen.

915
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I mean he.

916
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: Was not and we was.

917
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

918
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: I remember our reactions.

919
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, yeah, because we didn't love like

920
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 6: but that's what people comparison.

921
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 7: I think. I think, I think he's I think, did

922
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 7: you kids a better player than yeah?

923
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 9: Last year when we were it was so many edges,

924
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 9: If I'm not mistaken, it was a lot of edges.

925
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 9: And I can't remember what his name was, but there

926
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 9: was one that everyone was so high on early and

927
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 9: we was.

928
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 5: Like Tyree Wilson, Tyred.

929
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: We were like, we all kind of talked about it,

930
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: like good player, top ten pick maybe not.

931
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 5: I mean that was kind of the thing.

932
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: That's what I felt like about Dallas Turner. He's the

933
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: that's what that's Wilson.

934
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 4: Cowboys fans are worried about Mazie Smith and his rookie year.

935
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: Go go talk to a Raiders fan about Tyree Wilson. Yeah,

936
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: lots who kind of gives me. He has a little

937
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: bit of Joey bo said, he's got that crazy size

938
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: sixty five to sixty five coming off the edge. He's

939
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 4: but he's athletic. He used that in athleticism and he's

940
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: got a lot of power. May need to improve a

941
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: little bit on technique because it's clear that he's used

942
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 4: power his whole life, but he's athletic as hell. That's

943
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: a guy you would love to have.

944
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: It's funny you brought up lots as a transfer from Washington.

945
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: My guy is currently finishing his Washington tenure. Brailan Trice

946
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: ed Rusher, where's the single digit technician? He's strong, six

947
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: foot four, two seventy five, gets off the line of scrimmage.

948
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: He's working guys backwards. He does have a run stuffing ability,

949
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: he can move laterally, he knows how to close things out.

950
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: The one thing is he doesn't have a great change

951
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: of direction. He's not very bendy.

952
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 5: That's not his game though. His game is a power game.

953
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 7: Top heavy.

954
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very strong up front, but that's that's where

955
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: I've got him. I haven't watched a ton of ed Rushers,

956
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: only three at the moment, but he was my first watch, and.

957
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: I really did like, I'm with you on that.

958
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 10: There's something about him that stands out that you're like, okay, right,

959
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 10: And I put out a tweet that is probably gonna

960
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 10: get con on old takes exposed years from now. But

961
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 10: I would give me a Brailn Trice over Dallas Turner.

962
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 7: Well, wow, yeah, who do you got?

963
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: I don't no, no, no, come.

964
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: I haven't watched Dallas Turner yet, but just hearing the

965
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: hype with him, I.

966
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 7: Feel like that would be a tough top ten guy.

967
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of Braylan Trice at like twenty five like that,

968
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: like back half of the first I'm not gonna be

969
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: a better pro.

970
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 5: I think Tries might be that guy.

971
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: I like it. Brian took my pet cat.

972
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: It was a lot.

973
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 9: No Jeremiah Trotter, talk about it, please, I talked about.

974
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: Him enough I wanted to. This is another guy that

975
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: caught my attention.

976
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 11: Y'all.

977
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 9: Don't don't roast me. But I know we talk about

978
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 9: running back and maybe that it's not nearly as good

979
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 9: as it was last year. But Marshaun Lloyd out of

980
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 9: USC stood out to me a little bit. Transferred from

981
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 9: South Carolina to usc.

982
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 7: USC to USC.

983
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 9: Y'all make me so sick.

984
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 7: Believe that just happened us.

985
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 5: They're both gonna show up in an l s U

986
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: Jersey next week.

987
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 7: It's just gonna be great.

988
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 6: Please.

989
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: But now he stood out to me.

990
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 9: He just the shiftiness and his cut back ability, it

991
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 9: stands out to you. I was looking at the just

992
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 9: the overall foot quickness was there, and but the specifically

993
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 9: the short area of quickness is off the charts to me.

994
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 9: And I feel like he also too. If he sees it,

995
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 9: he can go. I like the acceleration. The top speed

996
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 9: is not elite or it's not like super high, but

997
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 9: again I think you you can deal with it with

998
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 9: the short area quickness. The lateral agility is crazy. He's

999
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 9: strong too, Like his lower half is crazy.

1000
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 3: Now he's five to nine, so I don't know if

1001
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: anybody would care about that. He's two ten. He's two

1002
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: ten five to nine, so.

1003
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 7: But I can rock with five nine.

1004
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 9: He's very stout. He's very stout. His lower half of

1005
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 9: his body is really strong. To that point he is

1006
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 9: not afraid to pick up a blitz. He is not

1007
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 9: afraid to get his nose in there.

1008
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: Would pass pro That's a huge point.

1009
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 9: So some you know, because when people look at smaller

1010
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 9: running backs, they're like.

1011
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: You know, are people going to be trampling him?

1012
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 9: No, Like he's his lower half allows him to be

1013
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 9: able to stand in there. And do some of these

1014
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 9: blitz pickups and things like that. I think you would

1015
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 9: thrive his own scheme because again, like some of his

1016
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 9: lateral quickness is off the charts.

1017
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: So he got my attention.

1018
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 9: There's not a like I said, we talked about it,

1019
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 9: there's not a lot of the running back classes, not

1020
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 9: what it was last year.

1021
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: But this guy I think can play the game.

1022
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: My question for you on Marshawn Lloyd, and I know

1023
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 4: we're early in the process here, so it might be

1024
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: tough to make a comparison, but you look at a

1025
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 4: guy like Blake Koram who has similar size, a little

1026
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: bit better production, a little bit more speed, how do

1027
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: you kind of different differentiate the too For me.

1028
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 9: Now, when you look at Blake, because I watched him

1029
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 9: for quite a bit of time, obviously there's a lot

1030
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 9: of a lot of tape on him a touchdown, he's

1031
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 9: been doing a lot. I think that Marshan is a

1032
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 9: little bit more punishing as far as power, and I

1033
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 9: like Blake and I like what he's able to do.

1034
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 9: But at the same time, I do I think Marshan

1035
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 9: has a good balance of the power and the speed

1036
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 9: in the lateral quickness. I know Korn could do a

1037
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 9: lot of stuff and bounce to the outside, and he

1038
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 9: displays patients and things like that. I think Marshan has

1039
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 9: these things. But if he dips his shoulder, he's gonna

1040
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 9: make you pay. You're gonna feel him a little bit

1041
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 9: more to me than what you're gonna feel Quorm.

1042
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: So that would to me be the distation between the two.

1043
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 9: They both don't have like crazy breakaway speed like I said,

1044
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 9: but even so, I still think that Marshaan has a

1045
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 9: little bit more juice as at that top.

1046
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: Speed, and then that plays say I plays into past

1047
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: protection as well.

1048
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 9: So yeah, the similar cup back ability as Korn.

1049
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 3: Like to your point, I'm.

1050
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 9: Glad that you brought that up, because, yeah, their cup

1051
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 9: back ability is similar to me, the lateral quickness and

1052
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 9: stuff like that.

1053
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 3: You mentioned the production and all that stuff.

1054
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 9: But if you go look at him, he will look

1055
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 9: at Marshan as see the year he was there or

1056
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 9: the time he was there, he was decently productive.

1057
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: But to average seven point yards of carry.

1058
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 9: This past season is let you know, this guy can

1059
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 9: rumble if he needs to rumble, And can I.

1060
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 5: Slid one more? Dude in one more because I'm geeking

1061
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 5: over here for it.

1062
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 10: You guys, watch Jersey Newton from Illinois.

1063
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 4: I have a hilarious story about it.

1064
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: I watched him last year. I think I forgot my

1065
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: notes in him.

1066
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 7: I'd love to hear the story.

1067
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 10: But as far as defensive tackles go, like, man, what

1068
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 10: would I like to see the consistency with his get

1069
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 10: off a little bit more? Yes, but holy moly, this

1070
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 10: dude was a fun watch. I mean and and I

1071
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 10: love his awareness. He puts that big pop he has

1072
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 10: swatting balls the line of scrimmage. He takes on double teams.

1073
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 10: I think he play three tech. I think kick out

1074
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 10: and play some five tech. He's got some versatility, plays

1075
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 10: with tremendous leverage. It was one of my notes on him,

1076
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 10: and I love him. I mean he's a little bit smaller.

1077
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 10: Maybe the yeah, short arms, short arms, But to me,

1078
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 10: I mean he does do a good job of of

1079
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 10: shedding blocks and being able to chase, play, scrape down

1080
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 10: the line of scrimmage.

1081
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 7: To Newton was a fun study.

1082
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 9: Yes, interesting, you put him next to a ham, He's

1083
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 9: gonna go.

1084
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: Yes, he's he's to your point. I watched him.

1085
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 9: I remember watching him last year because we were so

1086
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 9: impressed by the Illinois defense in general, so well coached

1087
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 9: and that secondary back there. Maybe you think they was

1088
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 9: you think they was thriving just because No, that that

1089
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 9: front four was steady for Illinois as well. And so yeah,

1090
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 9: i'd like his hands too. The violence in his hands,

1091
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 9: I think that's what helps him. Yeah short, Yeah, it's hard, right,

1092
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 9: the hand fighting is there. So he's he is an

1093
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 9: interesting watch. I'm gonna find my notes there.

1094
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 10: Ben was more impressive than I was anticipating. When I

1095
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 10: first started watching, it was like, man, this guy's got

1096
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 10: some bed to him.

1097
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 5: You know what this sounds like.

1098
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Speaker 2: It sounds like Elijah Chancey from Pitt last year a

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Speaker 2: certain extent what it was, Okay, Chancy was like to

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Speaker 2: eighty Yeah he was a.

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Speaker 6: Little bit of a smaller guy. But yeah, this guy's

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Speaker 6: super disruptive. You guys are right about that.

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Speaker 7: Uh. The chase is excellent and when he gets in position.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this guy, I always say it in my notes,

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Speaker 6: like this guy's he's got like a dynamic initial burst.

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Speaker 7: Yes, the way he comes off the ball and gets

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Speaker 7: into these blockers love it.

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Speaker 5: A lot of names flying around. That's what we wanted.

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Speaker 2: This first aid don't worry fans, we will have Twitter

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Speaker 3: It will happen.

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Speaker 2: We will have Twitter on the twenty. Whenever we were

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Speaker 2: names out here. I want to just start hitting as

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Speaker 2: many prospects as possible.

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Speaker 7: You guys are on your today.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, though, you'll have to be on

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Speaker 2: our game a little bit more because it's time to

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Speaker 2: grade the twenty twenty three class. And does the lack

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Speaker 2: of production change your draft philosophy for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show.

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Speaker 2: Always back here on the Draft Show, presented by Miller

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Speaker 2: I Hate Shamorrison, Zach Wolchuck Brian brought us Nick Harris,

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Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's all right,

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Speaker 2: this is the uh the segment that I feel like

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Speaker 2: all of us are probably going to uh we regret

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Speaker 2: talking about at some point. Just but we have to

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Speaker 2: talk to struggle. Yeah, just gotta talk about it. Twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three draft class for the Dallas Cowboys. Unfortunate breaks

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Speaker 2: in the area of Demarvion Overshown. Yep, I'm going down

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Speaker 2: early in the season. But you have first round pick

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Speaker 2: Mazzie Smith's, second round pick Luke Scoonmaker, fourth round pick

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Speaker 2: Villa Yami Fojoko. Then you have Eric Scott Junior. You

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Speaker 2: have Awesome Richards in the fifth round, you have Douce

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Speaker 2: Vaughan in the sixth round, and then yeah, not a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of production across the board. Jalen Brooks was

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Speaker 2: a seventh round pick. Not a ton of production. Brian,

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Speaker 2: You've been in these draft rooms. You've been in these

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Speaker 2: war rooms, had drafts like this before.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 5: You've had ups and you've had down.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing radio with you guys, right, Yeah, where does

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Speaker 2: this change things, if at all?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in terms of your philosophy moving forward, Well.

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Speaker 6: What's disappointing to me is though I think you had

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Speaker 6: a clear plan for what you wanted to do with Mazzi.

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Speaker 6: I think that you had an idea and then all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden it switched and you know the thing

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Speaker 6: with Mazie and we all.

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Speaker 7: Watched the games.

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Speaker 6: The one problem that Mozzi has is when he doesn't

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Speaker 6: get off the snap quick enough, he gets blocked, you know,

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Speaker 6: and then maybe the weight loss was trying it in

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Speaker 6: his way of saying, oh, I could be quicker, I

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Speaker 6: could get off the ball quicker if I'm smaller, But

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Speaker 6: that's really not what I felt like the vision for

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Speaker 6: Mozzie Smith was, you know, so the vision, let's be honest.

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Speaker 6: Before the draft, remember we were talking about tight ends

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Speaker 6: in the first round. They were talking about Laporta.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Remember we were all kind of looking at You're like, damn,

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Speaker 6: they might take Laportera here in the first round. They

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Speaker 6: were smart about that. They obviously had a vision for

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Speaker 6: what Luke Schoonmaker. We all saw Luke Schoonmaker as more

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Speaker 6: of a blocker, a guy that.

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Speaker 7: When Blake Korum ran the football, who is it going behind?

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Speaker 6: Is behind Schoonmaker in this offensive line and those they're

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Speaker 6: getting pushed and all that.

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Speaker 7: So you had a vision for that overshown. Unfortunate what

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Speaker 7: happened for him.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing a preseason game, he's six plays, he's got

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Speaker 6: three tackles. I'm going, damn, this guy needs to be

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Speaker 6: on the field more. You know, you just kind of

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Speaker 6: go down through it and it's it's a really good roster.

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Speaker 6: But the young players that the top players that they

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Speaker 6: had visions for it didn't work out. I can understand

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Speaker 6: the Eric Scott's and people like that down the Brooks

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Speaker 6: down there, you know, down the line, because you're kind

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Speaker 6: of looking for traits and trying to find it. But

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Speaker 6: when you don't hit on the top three guys, that

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Speaker 6: that makes it look.

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Speaker 7: A lot worse than it really is, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I they had vision for these players and what

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Speaker 6: they could do. It's just they did not. They were

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Speaker 6: not They did not live up to the vision I

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Speaker 6: believed that the front office had for what those guys,

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Speaker 6: uh could could give them And and and they're playing

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Speaker 6: from behind. Scoon Maker was injured, but in mini camps

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Speaker 6: and stuff like that, awesome.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm not making excuses for the guy. But

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Speaker 7: he was at Michigan.

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Speaker 6: You watch him, man, he was a physical player, and

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Speaker 6: I thought, well, he's gonna you know him Ferguson, They're

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Speaker 6: gonna be fine.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: One of the reasons why you don't run the ball

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Speaker 6: particularly well is point of attack. Blocking at the edge,

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Speaker 6: you know, with your tight ends has not been great,

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Speaker 6: you know, and that's why you tried to go schoon

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Speaker 6: Maker and it didn't work out. Right Now, you know, hey,

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Speaker 6: we've seen Dalton Schultz here not do anything, you know,

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Speaker 6: and then two years later he's you know, he's off

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Speaker 6: doing great things.

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Speaker 7: So you know, that's my hope for guys like that.

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Speaker 6: It's unfortunate that they got no production out of the

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Speaker 6: really the top three.

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Speaker 7: Guys that they drafted. I mean, I think that's important.

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Speaker 7: I think it's you know, take it, take a beat.

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Speaker 10: You know, did you get the production that you wanted

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Speaker 10: from these guys year one?

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 10: I think the Dalton Schultz comparison is a brilliant one.

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Speaker 10: There were questions is he going to make the roster?

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Speaker 10: Then he turns into one of them, but your most

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Speaker 10: reliable players. And I think Schoonmaker is a guy you

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Speaker 10: were watching him on film. I think the blocking started

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Speaker 10: to come along. You started to see him do a

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Speaker 10: better job as the season went. You know, as a receiver,

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Speaker 10: you've got a guy in Jake Ferries and that's emerging

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Speaker 10: as one of the best tight ends in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: So I mean that that can come along nicely, but

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Speaker 7: you know you.

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Speaker 10: Wanted him to try and help your running game as

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Speaker 10: an inline blocker. The Mazie thing with the weight loss

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Speaker 10: fascinates me. I think you saw flashes from Mazie this

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Speaker 10: year at time, and he's a guy that naturally is

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Speaker 10: not going to just fill up the stat sheet, right.

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Speaker 10: He's not going to be a Micah Parsons for you

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Speaker 10: or a Fowler with the splash plays that they talked

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Speaker 10: about on post game shows before. But you know, you

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Speaker 10: want Mazi to do some of the dirty work. And

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Speaker 10: I think that maybe some of it was frustration on

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Speaker 10: his part as well. Yeah, I think that he expects

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Speaker 10: a lot out of himself and he didn't quite get

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Speaker 10: that this year. But I mean, Jalen Tolbert was a

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Speaker 10: guy that people quit on last year. Tolbert gave you

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Speaker 10: some good moments this year. So just because there wasn't

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Speaker 10: a good rookie season, I'm not quitting on some of

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Speaker 10: these guys. And I still I liked Junior Forojoco, he

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Speaker 10: was a guy the motor. There was a lot of

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Speaker 10: stuff that I like. Crazy production didn't get to play

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Speaker 10: a lot. I mean, it's awesome. Richard's the guy that

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Speaker 10: did get to play a little bit due to injury

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Speaker 10: this year, and I don't think was terrible in the

1287
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Speaker 10: reps that he got as well as that a guy

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Speaker 10: that ends up getting a bigger role. So I think

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Speaker 10: that the jury is still out the final grade on

1290
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Speaker 10: this draft class, how good, how bad it is. I

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Speaker 10: think there's a still wait and see approach here, But

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Speaker 10: certainly you're one. You didn't hit on your top two

1293
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Speaker 10: three got well. I think you would have on Overshown.

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Speaker 10: I think people would have viewed this differently if overshown

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Speaker 10: Ho had have been healthy.

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Speaker 2: I agree, And I think you're also the frustration's probably

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Speaker 2: amplified a significant margin because you look at the last

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Speaker 2: couple drafts. You've had immediate impact from your previous three drafts. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb, Trayvon Diggs, Neville Gallimore, Tyler Battish.

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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, it was.

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons, Oh Say Digizua, twenty twenty two, it was

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Speaker 2: Tyler Smith, Jake Ferguson, de Ron Bland. Immediate production from

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Speaker 2: those three draft classes. And then you get into twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, and like you said, the vision was there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the effort was there in terms of putting those guys

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Speaker 2: on the field and making them fit into.

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Speaker 7: A certain role.

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Speaker 5: It just didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: But does that mean the vision changes this time around

1310
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: whenever you go into a separate draft process.

1311
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1312
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 6: But you know what, this organization does a good job

1313
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 6: now of taking the best available player on the board.

1314
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1315
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 7: And I trust them for that because.

1316
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 6: I mean, to me, I don't think they I think

1317
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 6: they have an idea of going in what they would

1318
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 6: like to get, but they they've done a good job

1319
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 6: of saying, you know what, this is our stack.

1320
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 7: We're gonna take this guy right now.

1321
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 16: You know.

1322
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 6: I mean we talk about, oh, they need an edge, Oh,

1323
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 6: they need a linebacker. Oh, and then they take a

1324
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 6: ceed lamb or something like that, and you're like going, wow,

1325
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 6: Okay that I applaud them for what they've done. I

1326
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 6: think that approach will always work here. I think that's

1327
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 6: why they're one of the best draft in teams. I

1328
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 6: think it's unfortunate that the top three guys didn't get

1329
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 6: any production, real production this year. I don't think that

1330
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 6: changes for them. I think they're gonna stack their board.

1331
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 6: I think they're gonna look at the they're gonna grade

1332
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 6: the players. They're not gonna window dress their board, and

1333
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 6: they're gonna stack them up there, and if when it's

1334
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 6: their turn to pick, they're gonna take their top guy.

1335
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 6: I trust them to do that, I really really do.

1336
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: Since it is the first draft show, and then we

1337
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: may have some new listeners along the way. Window dressing

1338
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: a board. What does that mean terminology, Yeah, you don't

1339
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: want to.

1340
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 6: Just put guys in spots just because if you know,

1341
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 6: if you really don't believe a guy's a first round player,

1342
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 6: don't just put them up in the first round up

1343
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 6: there because everybody else in the lead thinks he's a

1344
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 6: first round player, if you really believe that, or or

1345
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 6: if somebody's got a guy in the third round, for example,

1346
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 6: Travis Frederick. Everybody has Travis Frederick as a as a

1347
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 6: third round player. They took him at pick thirty, you know, yeah,

1348
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 6: that's still below probably our cut line.

1349
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 7: We probably had.

1350
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 6: Twenty three first round grades, so he was more like

1351
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 6: a second round player, but they they took him at thirty.

1352
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 7: See that's that's.

1353
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 6: If you believe that a guy is that player, put

1354
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 6: him where you would take it.

1355
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 7: You know, don't window dress your board.

1356
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 6: Don't just put him up there because you all the

1357
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 6: scouting services said that's what you.

1358
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 7: Have to do.

1359
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 5: And this is not a team that window dresses there.

1360
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 5: But they will not window dress their Tyler Smith.

1361
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: They took him above the pay grade at the time, Smith, Steamaker,

1362
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: some of them have worked, some of them at least

1363
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: did this, but have not.

1364
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 5: I'm with Zach.

1365
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up on Monzie Smith and Luke Schoolmaker

1366
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: just yet. I think Demarvey and Overstrown can be a guy,

1367
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 2: but this is not an organization that in the past

1368
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: has window a dressed their board, and.

1369
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 5: I think you should take comfort in that.

1370
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, moving forward, Yeah, I mean when you talk about

1371
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 12: this this draft, this past draft class, and like you

1372
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 12: guys talked about the lack of production, I know we

1373
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 12: are giving them some time and stuff because development is important,

1374
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 12: but it did hurt especially I mean you mentioned Juni

1375
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 12: and Fojoko.

1376
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: I was really sad, low key that.

1377
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 9: We didn't get to see him this season because one

1378
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 9: thing that stood up stood out about him on tape

1379
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 9: was how he can contain the edge and defend the edge.

1380
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 9: And I baby, look, where do people attack you this

1381
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 9: year on the edge have mercy because I feel like

1382
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 9: his I felt like his size didn't take away from

1383
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 9: his speed and to your point, the explosiveness, his ability

1384
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 9: to shed and tackle, his power was a problem for tackles.

1385
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 9: And so I was looking at him because if you're smart,

1386
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 9: you're not just gonna run at the Marcus Lawrence. The

1387
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 9: Cowboys have been needing an edge opposite of DeMarcus Lawrence

1388
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 9: that can consistently stop the run. You got guys that

1389
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 9: can rush the pastor you have and had a guy

1390
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 9: that can go over there and man that spot and

1391
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 9: make people have to make decisions.

1392
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: And so I was really looking forward to him.

1393
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 9: So to see, you know that this year, to see

1394
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 9: him not have that opportunity to be on the field

1395
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 9: where he just.

1396
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 3: Didn't get on the field, was that stood out to me.

1397
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,959
Speaker 9: But also with Schoonmaker, Doug, twelve personnel could have helped

1398
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 9: you a lot this year.

1399
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: And it wasn't that they didn't run it. It's the

1400
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: fact that there's an element of football that matters, and

1401
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 3: people know Big.

1402
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 9: Homie ain't catching no passes for real, So it don't

1403
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 9: matter if you running them out there and you're doing

1404
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 9: some twelve personnel type stuff people are. They're focusing on

1405
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 9: Ferguson and having another receiving tight end could have made

1406
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 9: a hell of a difference and the way this offense

1407
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 9: was run.

1408
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, I did.

1409
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 9: Like some of the things that Schoolmaker did in the

1410
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 9: blocking game and stuff, but of the lack of receiving

1411
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 9: from that second tight end, it hurt this year. And

1412
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 9: I do think it could have opened up this offense

1413
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 9: a little more if you got some production there.

1414
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, they started treating Ferguson like a wide receiver. You're

1415
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 6: seeing shit orders playing on him, you know, and stuff

1416
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 6: like that.

1417
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm with you guys on the jury

1418
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: still being out for this class. But I think you

1419
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 4: also have to look at the results and what's on paper,

1420
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: and it's the fact that you had eight draft picks

1421
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: and only two of them were active for every game

1422
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: this season, and only two of them were really, uh

1423
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 4: key players that were on the field quite a bit.

1424
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1425
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 4: I look at Schoonmakers being probably the best draft pick,

1426
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: and you know, based on his production, that's probably not

1427
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 4: the best thing in the world. I think, Well, I

1428
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 4: think t J. Bass is the best rookie in this

1429
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 4: entire class. Yeah, what TJ. Bass was able to do

1430
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: and bring to the field. You also got to look

1431
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: at Hunter Lippy and what he was able to do.

1432
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 4: I know that fun with Sammy was tough. TJ. Bass.

1433
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: I think he was kind of the saving grace of

1434
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 4: the rookie class and.

1435
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 6: Him, right, we're talking about you should have been drafted.

1436
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot of people that you know, like, damn,

1437
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 6: we missed on that guy.

1438
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: Put some put some respect on Jalen Brooks a little bit.

1439
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: I he didn't get to he didn't get to do

1440
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: a whole whole bunch.

1441
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 9: But I feel like the times we did see him,

1442
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 9: he was productive. But he's showed you more than what

1443
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 9: I think people expected of him, especially like coming in

1444
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 9: I'm thinking, i mean we thought, like, all, this guy's

1445
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 9: going to be his body, and then he comes in

1446
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 9: and he's sure, hands, strong, hands, really weird, sneaky quickness

1447
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 9: which makes no sense.

1448
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 3: He uses his length really well, those long strides.

1449
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 9: I personally do think he does have some upside as

1450
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 9: a receiver, and we could see maybe what he's capable of.

1451
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: You have something.

1452
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say he's probably the only draft pick that overperformed.

1453
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: That was just about to say that if you were

1454
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: looking at top to bottom one through through eight of

1455
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: the draft picks last year, he's the only one that

1456
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: went over show asterisk.

1457
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, got to be fair to him.

1458
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: He's the only one that that went above the expectations.

1459
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: Everybody else was probably below expectations.

1460
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: Have y'all heard anything about Eric Scott? Has there been

1461
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: any like? And don't get me wrong, I caught.

1462
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 9: Up with him early on, because when you looked at

1463
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 9: him on tape, you said, Okay, this guy compressed, he's sticky,

1464
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 9: got that little you know, that velcrow little.

1465
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: He plays the them absolutely love.

1466
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 9: Them, yes, right, And so obviously we didn't get a

1467
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 9: chance to see him. He did have a little bit

1468
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 9: of a point in a preseason where he was struggling.

1469
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 3: I caught up with him.

1470
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 9: I asked him they were working, If I'm not mistaken,

1471
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 9: they were working a zone concepts with him, because you

1472
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 9: got to be able to do both from this place.

1473
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 11: You know.

1474
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 9: So did y'all hear anything throughout the season or any

1475
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 9: updates on him?

1476
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 5: Not specifically?

1477
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: I think I think what you what you were outlining

1478
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: is is about the rundown on Eric's okay. They're trying

1479
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: to get him more comfortable with his own concepts. He

1480
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: played a lot of man at Southern Miss. He was

1481
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: mostly press corner. I mean, he was up top and physical.

1482
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: They want him to be able to track at the

1483
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,959
Speaker 2: same time and cover, and I just think he wasn't

1484
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: ready for that as a rookie.

1485
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 5: But if you're a six round pick, you're.

1486
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: Expected to have a little bit of leeway get into

1487
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: a development, a side of things, come back from camp.

1488
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 5: This year, he's going to have to have a big camp.

1489
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 7: And well for him strap.

1490
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: That's why I'm asking they clearly they can.

1491
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 7: Pick this draft to move up and get him. Talk

1492
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 7: about Scott.

1493
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 9: This year, Well, is the DC gonna be designed because

1494
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 9: of the same he might not like.

1495
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 7: He might not like him. Now, let's tell you what

1496
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 7: talk about this tomorrow.

1497
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I know we're going over here, but really quick.

1498
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: I think there is an opportunity for Eric Scott to

1499
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: be able to jump in if they decide to move

1500
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 4: on from Jordan Lewis. I think there's an opportunity for

1501
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 4: him and.

1502
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: Nicol Okay, good to think about it, Yeah, okay, And

1503
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: there's there's opportunities that could line up for a lot

1504
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: of these rookies, the twenty twenty three rookies specifically spots

1505
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: at edge rusher for Villiami for Hookos, spots on the

1506
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: offensive line for Austin Richards. Is it foregone conclusion that

1507
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: that's where they're gonna end up plugging in?

1508
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 7: Absolutely not.

1509
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 5: There's a lot that can happen between now.

1510
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: And then, including from a coaching staff standpoint, like I

1511
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 2: should just eloquently put a couple of moments ago, who's

1512
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: your DC, who's your head coach? Who is going to

1513
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: be on the opposite side of the building. We will

1514
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: continue to monitor that as we go on Tomorrow, We're

1515
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: we're going to dive deeper into this twenty twenty four

1516
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: draft class. I want to do some more telling me more.

1517
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: We'll have some Twitter on the twenty and we'll continue

1518
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: to get you ready for ninety nine days away the

1519
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan coming up here in just

1520
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: a couple of months.

1521
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 5: That does it for us here on the initial episode

1522
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 5: here in twenty twenty four for Chris.

1523
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: Beam, Zach Walchuk, Nick Harris, Brian brought us Aisha Morrison,

1524
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: 'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the Star in Frisco.

1525
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Speaker 5: We'll see you tomorrow.

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