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Speaker 1: where you were with the terrorists. If you got healthcare already,

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Speaker 1: it to a bank. Together, we will make America great again. Shard.

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Speaker 1: It's what you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me here in the

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Speaker 1: too expensive when you don't have somebody else involved, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, a five five minute visit to a specialist

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Speaker 1: in New York City for a script for penicillina or

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Speaker 1: something which you know you need and it's all you

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Speaker 1: need and you could have gotten yourself, will cost you

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Speaker 1: like five or six hundred bucks easily, maybe more for

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Speaker 1: five minutes. I mean, come on, that's just not that's

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Speaker 1: just not based in market realities. Once you ache out

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Speaker 1: that there's so much distortion going on because of all

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Speaker 1: the government mandates, because of all the government involvement in insurance,

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Speaker 1: you should just be able to buy the insurance plan

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Speaker 1: you want to buy, and insurers should offer plans that

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Speaker 1: are straightforward and that's it, and we'll see and you

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Speaker 1: see how it goes from there. But that doesn't allow

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Speaker 1: for the massive redistribution of wealth that is at the

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Speaker 1: core of what the progressive left in this country really

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Speaker 1: wants on healthcare. So Cassidy defended himself, I should note

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Speaker 1: against the accusation from Jimmy Kimmel. Here's what he had

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Speaker 1: to say. And we protect those with pre existing conditions.

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Speaker 1: If a state applies for a waiver, it specifically says

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Speaker 1: the state must establish that there is adequate and affordable

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Speaker 1: coverage for those of pre existing conditions. Are are you

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Speaker 1: saying Jimmy Kimmel is wrong. I'm saying that if he

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Speaker 1: understands the bill one he is wrong. It will increase

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Speaker 1: coverage and it will protect those of pre existing conditions,

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Speaker 1: particularly for those states who have not have the benefits

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Speaker 1: of Medicaid expansion. We help those in those states, and

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Speaker 1: those are millions of Americans. I guess we'll see. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if this is gonna make it through, though.

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Speaker 1: I think that they have squandered so much political momentum

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Speaker 1: at this point, and the public is so weary of

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the Congress not falling through on promises that

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Speaker 1: this just it just may not happen, and it is

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Speaker 1: really it is really frustrating um to watch this play out.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, though, is he's he's got faith. He says,

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Speaker 1: very good chance. So there's that, it's a very good chance.

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Speaker 1: Obamacare is a disaster, is failing badly. Be a little

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Speaker 1: at the race, be a little what's happening with premus?

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Speaker 1: For people that can't afford Obamacare. It's been a catastruptic situation.

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Speaker 1: I believe that grahamcast really, will you do it the

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Speaker 1: right way? And it is really at the right way.

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Speaker 1: This then support from Republicans were already senators and a

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Speaker 1: lot of others are looking at it very positively. I

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Speaker 1: want everyone to remember that SoundBite for when inevitably there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of finger pointing that occurs if this thing

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Speaker 1: doesn't make it through through the the Senate, or if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make it through from the Congress onto the

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Speaker 1: President's desk to get signed, and then they're gonna say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: Trump didn't do enough to sell it, and it turns

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Speaker 1: into a because everyone's responsible. No one's responsible, right because

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Speaker 1: everyone blames everyone else. Nobody actually gets blamed. That's what

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Speaker 1: they're gonna try to do if this doesn't work. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the particulars of the bill, I mean, I I was

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Speaker 1: reading reading all the best people on this today and

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Speaker 1: their analysis of what it does. The long and the

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Speaker 1: short of it is that it gets through the individual mandate,

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Speaker 1: It um gets rid of the employer mandate, it pulls

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Speaker 1: back some taxes, and it gives a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: money to states to set up exchanges and so the date.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you live in uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the great state of Nebraska, for example, you won't be

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Speaker 1: buying a federally set up healthcare plan in Nebraska. Nebraska

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Speaker 1: will be determining what Nebras skins have to get for

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Speaker 1: their healthcare. Right. So is that better? Yeah? I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's better. Is it what we were promised? Is

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Speaker 1: it a full repeal? Is it removing the redistributive mechanisms

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Speaker 1: from the health care system which allow bureaucrats to determine

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Speaker 1: who gets what, when they get it, and how much

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Speaker 1: you know, how much they get. No, it just means

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna have dealing with at the state level.

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Speaker 1: The federal government still plays a big role though, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, as currently written, the Secretary of HHS Health

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Speaker 1: and Human Services will be able to override the existing

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Speaker 1: system and say, more money has to go to this state.

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Speaker 1: We need to shore up the exchange in this state,

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Speaker 1: so you know, more money is going to go to it.

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Speaker 1: There's there's still hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer

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Speaker 1: money that will be given to states to create health insurance.

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Speaker 1: Health insurance system within that state. Again, I mean, is

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Speaker 1: this a little bit better? Maybe it would be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how the Blue states versus the Red states

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Speaker 1: stack up on this and who's doing a better job.

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Speaker 1: Federalism is supposed to work that way, right, But when

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Speaker 1: you have the federal government always back stopping and enabled

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Speaker 1: to send more cash infusions, you're just going to have

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Speaker 1: different states trying to gain the system and get more

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Speaker 1: money out of it. Complexity is the enemy of better

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Speaker 1: health care for you and for me. Bureaucratic entanglements and

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Speaker 1: hundred page long bills and all this stuff. These are

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Speaker 1: the enemy. These are enemies of transparency, their enemies of clarity.

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Speaker 1: They are enemies of you being able to go see

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Speaker 1: a doctor who is in a competing free market situation

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Speaker 1: with other doctors in your area, who's trying to deliver

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Speaker 1: the best services possible, and who's gonna get paid for

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Speaker 1: those services without having to jump through all these different

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Speaker 1: hoops and follow all this different paperwork. And you know,

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Speaker 1: everyone feels the grind of this. Everyone feels the difficulties

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Speaker 1: of the current health care system in one way or another.

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Speaker 1: And those who are in a sense freeloaders on the

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Speaker 1: current system because they receive health care welfare of one

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Speaker 1: kind or another, whether it's you know, there's any number

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Speaker 1: of ways that that can be the case. I think

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Speaker 1: they have an anxiety. I'm sympathetic for them too, because

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Speaker 1: there's the anxiety of well, we're just living. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: healthcare at the government's whim. This could change, you know,

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Speaker 1: there they could. And more importantly, for those especially who

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Speaker 1: are getting Medicaid, it's not even good health care. The

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Speaker 1: best doctors don't take it. A lot of doctors won't

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Speaker 1: take a lot of hospitals won't take it. So look,

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Speaker 1: it's an enormously complicated situation, which is an understatement, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, this is deja vu all over

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Speaker 1: again with where we are with Republicans on this now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna go through. My sense

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Speaker 1: is that it probably won't. And at this point, opinions

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Speaker 1: of Congress are so low that they're already in the basement.

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Speaker 1: There's really nowhere for them to go. And we'll move

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Speaker 1: on to tax reform, which they will do. They will

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Speaker 1: get something throw on tax reform, because that's the donut

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Speaker 1: the people who write checks to all these politicians to

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Speaker 1: keep them in office, they want tax reform. So on

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Speaker 1: both sides, Democrat and Republican. That's where the rubber starts

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Speaker 1: to meet the road, as they say. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: I am not hopeful on this h on this Graham

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Speaker 1: Cassidy thing. I don't really see it. I don't really

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Speaker 1: see it happening. I just remember what I told you

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Speaker 1: about the dead ceiling and the and the government shutdown.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Nope, not gonna happen. I'm not quite

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Speaker 1: there with Graham Cassidy. But there you can see the

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Speaker 1: same talking points are being arrayed against it. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: kick all these people off there, ensure pre existing conditions,

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Speaker 1: pre existing conditions. Oh wait, one more thing. You'll notice that,

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Speaker 1: no matter what the discussion is, Democrats immediately go to

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Speaker 1: a very small on policy matters. They go do a

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Speaker 1: very small segment of the overall problem of the overall issue,

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Speaker 1: and they find one that is uh, they're able to

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Speaker 1: use as emotional manipulation and emotional blackmail for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the issue. Any number of things I can point

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Speaker 1: to where this is the case. It's obviously true with

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Speaker 1: health care, where all we ever talk about our pre

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Speaker 1: existing conditions. Meanwhile, less than one percent of the country

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Speaker 1: truly has what is a pre existing condition, So why

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Speaker 1: don't we just fix healthcare for one percent of the

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Speaker 1: country and then leave the rest of it alone and

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Speaker 1: make it better instead of you know, but they don't

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Speaker 1: want to do that because they want control. But we're

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Speaker 1: talking about pre existing conditions on healthcare. We talk about

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Speaker 1: DACCA for amnesty and for immigration, and you know, when

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Speaker 1: we talk about abortion, all the left, everyone's talking about

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Speaker 1: what about rape and incests? What about rape and incests?

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Speaker 1: I mean, they always focus on these very statistically uh

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Speaker 1: minor areas of the problem as a means of bullying

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Speaker 1: everyone and an emotional blackmail for for all the rest

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Speaker 1: of it. And you're seeing that with health care, it's

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Speaker 1: always about pre existing conditions. What about just you and

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Speaker 1: me and trying to get healthcare? What about just normal

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Speaker 1: Americans trying to get their health care and fixing it

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Speaker 1: for people with prexisting conditions as part of fixing it

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Speaker 1: for everybody, instead of we gotta all suffer under the

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Speaker 1: same bureaucratic monstrosity together. It's just, oh, you can tell

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Speaker 1: like it. It's very frustrating. And have you have you

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Speaker 1: been sold on this let me let me ask you

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Speaker 1: that have you been sold on Graham Cassidy as a

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Speaker 1: good a good option, a good bill. Who even knows

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Speaker 1: what's in this thing? I don't even think the centers

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Speaker 1: know what's in it. They're like, yeah, sure for the states, federalism. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about budget projections and no one knows what.

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Speaker 1: I know. I'm healthcare. I just want to sit here

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Speaker 1: and tell you all the health care stories where I

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Speaker 1: can see how frustrating the system is for for other people,

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Speaker 1: for me, for you just want to avoid it, and

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Speaker 1: that's not the way should be. But you just want

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Speaker 1: to if you can avoid our healthcare system in this

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Speaker 1: country for the most part, if you need really you know,

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Speaker 1: if you need high levels of care, you want to

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Speaker 1: avoid it. Um. And if you can't, well then you

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Speaker 1: gotta deal. But alright, alright, I want to move to

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll do some of the latest on the

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Speaker 1: on the Russia stuff, I mean the GOP healthcare bill vote.

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Speaker 1: They're saying it will happen next week, so we can't

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Speaker 1: do this. I think we've gotten as far as we

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Speaker 1: can get on this today. Maybe some Russia stuff. UM,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to you about the campus rape Frenzy

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Speaker 1: of the author of that book, The Campus Rape Frenzy,

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Speaker 1: will be joining us a little bit talking about that.

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Speaker 1: You got Hillary and Barack. Hillary on a book tour,

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Speaker 1: Barack on the speaking tour that will be coming up,

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Speaker 1: and maybe some missile defense in North Korea talk that

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Speaker 1: will also be interesting, I think, and your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: our Republicans gonna get it done, our Republicans gonna make

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Speaker 1: it happen. Eight four four eight four four, eight to five.

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Speaker 1: All right, we've got Evelyn in North Carolina, w p G.

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Speaker 1: I have on Hi Buck. I have three comments, short

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Speaker 1: ones regarding um bodd discussion. First, I do believe in federalism,

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Speaker 1: and Jason Lewis has a great book on federalism, so

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Speaker 1: if people don't know what that is, they can read

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Speaker 1: his book. Second, I think the problem that the healthcare

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Speaker 1: program didn't work were two significant people, UM Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 1: who doesn't know how to run his job, and uh

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Speaker 1: John McCain, who should have stayed home. Then we would

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Speaker 1: have had something. Third, the problem is we have become

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Speaker 1: an entitlement country, and that's the mindset of this country.

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Speaker 1: Everything for free, and I've tried to tell people that

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Speaker 1: every free b you get your giving up the freedom

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Speaker 1: in some way. And I can't convince people about that enough.

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Speaker 1: I have a friend who's a school teacher and he's

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Speaker 1: teaching personal finance at a high school and several of

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Speaker 1: the kids said, I'm not making up a budget for

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Speaker 1: food or housing. Why should I. I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: on food stamps and wen't there. So they're growing up

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Speaker 1: thinking that's a way of life. It's upsetting, it really is.

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Speaker 1: This country has to start getting more of, you know,

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Speaker 1: more of a thinking that anything can be accomplished with

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Speaker 1: a little enthusiasm and wanting to be successful. And they're

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Speaker 1: just not doing it. And I appreciate I appreciate your Sorry,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm getting off on my soapbox. I'm sorry. No,

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Speaker 1: that's that's quite all right. I like your can do

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Speaker 1: attitude and your spirit. Thank you, Evelyn. Hi'll tig Lonnie

643
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Speaker 1: in West Virginia listening on the Blaze app. What's up, hey, Buck,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, Bud? I'm good Mann, thank you for

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Speaker 1: calling in. Hey. You know, nobody ever talks about this,

646
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Speaker 1: but for years before Obama came up with his Obama Care,

647
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Speaker 1: you could always purchase insurance. Not nothing ever said that

648
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Speaker 1: you couldn't go buy an insurance policy from an insurance company. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so he never really made it affordable. They just got

650
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Speaker 1: together and decided that there was a way to make

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Speaker 1: more money off of everybody else in the country. And

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Speaker 1: number two, pre existing illnesses. I don't know whether you

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Speaker 1: know this or not know whatever talks about this either,

654
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Speaker 1: because I've had this myself through my insurance companies at work.

655
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Speaker 1: That only lasts for a year. Um, if you have

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Speaker 1: a pre existing illness, they won't cover you for the

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Speaker 1: first year, but after that they picked that up and

658
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Speaker 1: start to cover that. So I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that. I don't think that's correct, Lonnie. But I uh,

660
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Speaker 1: maybe with some insurers that was the case. But I

661
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Speaker 1: know there are people and we hear about the cases

662
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Speaker 1: all the time where individuals cannot get any insurance of

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Speaker 1: any kind because they have a massively expensive pre existing condition.

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Speaker 1: But well, I mean, you know, I've had pre existing

665
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Speaker 1: conditions before and changed jobs, and one if I give

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Speaker 1: them a proof of credible coverage showing you that insure before,

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Speaker 1: they'll cover you. One other time they said no for

668
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: the first year. After a year, we'll cover you so well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see man the previousing conditions part of this is uh,

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Speaker 1: just one slice of a much larger pie. Team will

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Speaker 1: be back with the Maniford stuff. Thanks for being here,

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Speaker 1: team UM. Phones are open if you want to give

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Speaker 1: a call eight or four nine eight four four nine

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Speaker 1: eight to five h um. Last hour it kind of

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Speaker 1: turned into if we were coming up with a theme

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Speaker 1: here in the Hut. Last hour was really about federalism,

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00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: I guess, and that can be for some people a

678
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: little bit of a dry topic. It's not it's not

679
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: sexy to sit around and talk about federalism all day,

680
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: but it's important. And that's that's now that the shift

681
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: that is happening in healthcare has to do with state

682
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: control versus federal control. Although with ground casting there's too

683
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: much federal control of what the states can do at

684
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: some of the underlying economic issues with it are the same.

685
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Speaker 1: So anyway, well, I want to move on from from

686
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Speaker 1: the health because it's going to be voted on next

687
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: week and so this will be a recurring, recurring theme

688
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: in the show. But federalism was the last hour part

689
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Speaker 1: of this hour. At least I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about sovereignty, which is a term that you would

691
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: think is it's pretty straightforward for most folks, right, sovereignty.

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Speaker 1: You know, nations should have sovereignty, should be able to

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Speaker 1: exert it's sovereignty. And yet there are some people that

694
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Speaker 1: out there who are put off by the notion of sovereignty. Right,

695
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: the sovereignty is the the authority of a state to

696
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Speaker 1: govern itself. That's all it is for a state to

697
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Speaker 1: be a state. But sovereignty makes some people feel ill

698
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Speaker 1: at ease? So can I can I put a hold

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Speaker 1: on that for a second. We're gonna talk sovereignty this hour,

700
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Speaker 1: which I'm not trying to make this into a policy

701
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Speaker 1: one on one class, so that hopefully I would make

702
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Speaker 1: Professor Hadley Archy's proud if I did so. My old

703
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Speaker 1: thesis advisor, Um, I don't know if I ever told

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Speaker 1: you this. You know, Hadley, You're like, what are you

705
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Speaker 1: talking about bout? This is my college thesis advisor for

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Speaker 1: political science, who was the only conservative, really the only

707
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Speaker 1: open conservative on campus. And Hadley was an interesting guy,

708
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Speaker 1: a little sometimes a bit quirky, I think you could say,

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Speaker 1: very fond of bow ties. He was a snappy, a

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Speaker 1: snappy dresser. Um, but I remember thinking that, you know,

711
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Speaker 1: and all the stuff that he did. I was told

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Speaker 1: the story that he once convinced one of his I

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Speaker 1: believe she was a thesis mentee, but I'm I'm not

714
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Speaker 1: that part of it. That detail may be incorrect. But

715
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Speaker 1: he convinced one of his students who in college had

716
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Speaker 1: become had become pregnant and was wrestling with what to do,

717
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Speaker 1: and convinced her to have the baby. And I remember

718
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Speaker 1: thinking about Hadley. You know, the guy has been the

719
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Speaker 1: guy has been teaching for I don't he had been

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Speaker 1: teaching when I was there for like thirty something years.

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Speaker 1: I mean he I think he. I think I went

722
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Speaker 1: to like his fiftie celebration of teaching here in New

723
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Speaker 1: York City and he finally retired. But of all the

724
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Speaker 1: stuff that had he had done, all the writing, all

725
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Speaker 1: the conservative philosophy, all he has. He has written many books.

726
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Speaker 1: They're dense, just f y. I would be prepared if

727
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Speaker 1: you decide to tackle an archy's it's spelled a r

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Speaker 1: k e s. You want to tackle an archy's uh work,

729
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Speaker 1: it's it's not it's not beach reating. But he at

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Speaker 1: least he at least as a professor, he at least

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Speaker 1: saved one life. That's It's better than a lot of

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Speaker 1: people get to do in their jobs. And I always

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Speaker 1: thought that was That was when I released. That was

734
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Speaker 1: honestly when I was a freshman when I found that out,

735
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Speaker 1: and that was one of the reasons why I signed

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Speaker 1: on with this guy. And I wasn't one of his

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Speaker 1: most devoted mentees by any stretch, but he was my

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Speaker 1: thesis advisor, and I just remember thinking that when it

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Speaker 1: when it came down to it, he did a good thing.

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Speaker 1: He did the right thing. He did a good thing,

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Speaker 1: and he changed more than one life, really, but he

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Speaker 1: at least saved a life. Um, but I digress. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what I wanted, what I wanted to mention to you,

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00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: because I'm bouncing around here a bit. As a follow

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Speaker 1: up to that story yesterday, we're gonna get to sovereignty

746
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: but and how it is a problem for some folks

747
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: in the media, and we'll get there in a moment.

748
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Speaker 1: But there was a follow up to that story in

749
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Speaker 1: uh at Georgia Tech where somebody where where this individual

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Speaker 1: Scout Shultz walked around with something looked like a knife,

751
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Speaker 1: called the police. Police came. He kept yelling, kill me,

752
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Speaker 1: kill me, you know, knife in his handed. This is

753
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Speaker 1: suicide by cop. It is a very tragic, unfortunate but

754
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Speaker 1: it is by no means the fault of the officers involved.

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00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: They unless they wanted to risk their own lives. Now

756
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, well, it wasn't a knife, and

757
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: he was just disturbed and you don't know. And having

758
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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time working alongside law enforcement officers

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00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: with plenty of stories about what at the NYPD here

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Speaker 1: in New York we called e d p s emotionally

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00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: disturbed persons can it's there are a lot of risks,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you think you're gonna be uh helping

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Speaker 1: somebody out and and you know there are no threat

764
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're coming at you with

765
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Speaker 1: a sharp and screwdriver and those that kind of things

766
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: that happened two cops that are are dealing with in

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00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: these situations. So when you when you tell somebody drop

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Speaker 1: the knife, drop the knife, and they're yelling and screaming

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Speaker 1: and they won't drop it, and they keep walking. The

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Speaker 1: window you have and this is one of the problems

771
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: too civilians, you know, have watched so much we people

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Speaker 1: have seen so much TV, and they'll say things like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, shoot the person, why don't they shoot them

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Speaker 1: in the leg? Right? Well, first of all, you, as

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00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: those who listening who understand ballistics, note it's very easy

776
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Speaker 1: to actually bleed out if you get shot in the

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Speaker 1: leg and it hits you. For moral order. But if

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00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: you shoot somebody the leg, and then it's even more

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00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: likely they're gonna come at you. They're not gonna that's

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Speaker 1: not gonna put them down necessarily and stop the threat.

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Speaker 1: And the officer's life is at risk now right or

782
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: or continues to be at risk. Um So it's it's

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00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: a terrible situation. I'm not trying to in any way

784
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Speaker 1: um mitigate how how sad it is. It's sad for

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00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: the officer too, as I said, But then you see

786
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Speaker 1: the way that it's described out there at the media.

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Speaker 1: And I just saw this today, and this is from GLAD,

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Speaker 1: which is the the biggest of gay and lesbian transgender

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Speaker 1: rights organization that I'm aware of. Whenever there's a big

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Speaker 1: story about anything in the l g b t Q community,

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Speaker 1: they go to the they go to GLAD g l

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Speaker 1: A A d UM, which is an advocacy group, and

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Speaker 1: from their official account, this is how they This is

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Speaker 1: how they describe that story that I told you yesterday

795
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Speaker 1: when I gave you all the details that I knew

796
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Speaker 1: when I tried to present it, I tried to present

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Speaker 1: the facts objectively, and then of course gave my analysis.

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Speaker 1: But here's what Glad Rights, an l g b t

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Speaker 1: Q campus organizer at Georgia Tech, lost their life at

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Speaker 1: the hands of campus police during a mental health crisis.

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Speaker 1: That makes it sound like cops were acting wild, doing

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Speaker 1: bad stuff and somebody who was really in need of

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Speaker 1: help was the victim of police. And let me read

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Speaker 1: this to you get an lgbt Q campus organizer, This individual,

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Speaker 1: Scout Schultz, lost their life. Noticed the use of a

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Speaker 1: plural pronounce here at the hands of campus police during

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Speaker 1: a mental health crisis. Now that's not strictly speaking a lie,

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Speaker 1: but it's certainly misconstrues the situation. It doesn't present it

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Speaker 1: in a in a in a way that someone comes

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Speaker 1: away comes from reading this thinking, Okay, this was a

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Speaker 1: situation where they are the officers were in reasonable fear

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Speaker 1: for their own safety and no, no, no no, this was

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Speaker 1: bad police that's what that's what this. You read this

814
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Speaker 1: and you don't know any better, and you don't see

815
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Speaker 1: it anywhere else, and you don't think critically about news stories.

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00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: You see the biggest gay, lesbian, transgender advocacy group in

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Speaker 1: the country making it down like a person who was

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Speaker 1: in mental distress, who is lgbt Q was killed by

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Speaker 1: police just because it's and that's not what happened. And

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Speaker 1: whenever we try to understand why there are these uh

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Speaker 1: movements that pop up across the country, and Black Lives

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Speaker 1: Matter was a rebranding of a previous anti cop movement

823
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Speaker 1: that was around during the days of Occupy Wall Street.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I was going through old photos that I

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00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: took of Occupy Wall Street the other day because I'm

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00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: doing some research on on on Antifa, and there was

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Speaker 1: a how many I remember seeing a banner how many

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Speaker 1: people of color have to be killed by cops before

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Speaker 1: you hate the state? That was what the huge banner

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Speaker 1: at one of these protests. How many people of color

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Speaker 1: have to be killed by cops before you hate the state?

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Speaker 1: That was in So Black Lives Matter is just a

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Speaker 1: rebranding of the oh really was originally a police brutality movement,

834
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Speaker 1: but it's actually it's largely anti cop um. But when

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Speaker 1: you think about why college kids across the country have

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Speaker 1: this attitude towards police, it's because of the way that

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Speaker 1: organizations like GLAD and different media networks portray these things.

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Speaker 1: If you were to read this, you would think that

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Speaker 1: a person who is really in desperate need of help

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00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: was just murdered by cops. Now I know that's not

841
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: what it says, but they picked the words very carefully

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00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: here to make it lost their life at the hands

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Speaker 1: of campus police. You know. Oh, okay, so that is

844
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Speaker 1: that is technically true, but that's a very convoluted way

845
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Speaker 1: of putting it. Was shot, posing a threat to police

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Speaker 1: in a suicide by a cop situation would be a

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00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: more accurate way to write about this, but that's not

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Speaker 1: going to serve the agenda. So that's not how they

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00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: described it. So I just that really struck me. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then there's also, uh, it's unacceptable. This is from

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Speaker 1: GLAD as well. Uh scout Schultz is pronouns? Are they them?

852
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: There's it's unacceptable for reporters to erase their identity while

853
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: telling their story. I am sorry. Even the New York

854
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: Times draws the line here they there's is plural. Whether

855
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: Scout Schultz rest in peace was male, female, or intersects

856
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's one person. It's one person. Now. It's

857
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: not even just we have to allow people to pick

858
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: their descriptions that are in contradiction of reality. We have

859
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: to change the plain meaning of words to suit people's whims.

860
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: I want to know where that stops. The answer is

861
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It's just more bending the knee. It's more

862
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: placating the forces of political correctness at the expense of reality.

863
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: And that is a dangerous, a dangerous path for us

864
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: to go down. But I do want to get speaking

865
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: of dangerous path is sovereignty, state's ability to exert power

866
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: as a state, very straightforward? Why do people have a

867
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: problem with it? I will answer that after the break

868
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: for this use of the words sovereign and sovereignty? Did

869
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: you did you hear a buzzword or a dog whistle

870
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: in in his repeated use of that word not not

871
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: allowed to use sovereignty? Uh? Nothing? Why? What's wrong? What's

872
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: wrong is a dog whistle? What is the dog? That's

873
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: Brian Williams, by the way, who you know, mr journalism?

874
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: And terity there. Well, there's a dog whistle going on there.

875
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: But but he wasn't the only one. This notion that

876
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: sovereignty as a word. And I some people might say,

877
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: old book, what about the sovereign citizens movement. Look, there

878
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that have a lot of things.

879
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: You know, because there's the People's Democrat Republic of North

880
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: Korea doesn't mean that democratic is all of a sudden

881
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: a term that we should be suspicious of, right, I mean,

882
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: come on, ah, well I didn't baby. We'll talk more

883
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: about North Korea later this week. I've got some more

884
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: thoughts on that for you. But in the meantime, sovereignty

885
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: is an issue. This is from Trump's U n speech

886
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: because he spoke about sovereignty and America first. And what

887
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: you'll find is that this actually bothers liberals, the notion

888
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: of America that is not responsive to quote international opinion.

889
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: It annoys liberals, It makes them feel uneasy. It bothers

890
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: progressives and leftists. They don't want America to just do

891
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: its thing and protect its people and take care of

892
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: their interests. They wanted America that's actually protect the interests

893
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: of the whole world. Whatever that means this notion that

894
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: there's world opinion, really, I mean world opinion on what

895
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: and who's got that polling data? I mean, it's just

896
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: it's kind of a nonsense idea, but it They like this,

897
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: They liked this position of America as subject to any

898
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: number of um internationalist whims. And the moment you get

899
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: away from that, there's a problem, the moment that you're

900
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: no longer trying to please the quote consensus, international consensus opinion.

901
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: They have an issue and then look, I mean I don't.

902
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: It's a shame every time I want to use the

903
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: word globalist, the globalist, the Lenadi. You know Buck's accident.

904
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: He is the government. He's a plant. I've seen it coming.

905
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: I know. I named him. You want me to name names,

906
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: I'll name him. I'll name names. You know what I'm

907
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: talking about. I'll name him. Uh he he he has

908
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: he has a deed. Is able to find my bio

909
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: on Wikipedia and make quite a make quite a show

910
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: of it there. It is rot, rotten, plain side Buck section.

911
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: That's a fake that's a fake name. It's a fake name.

912
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: God's never been in the field in his life. It's

913
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: a fake name. The name is real and serving two

914
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: war zones, unlike said radio host side note, but that's cool,

915
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: good talk, good talk. Uh where was I before I

916
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: got oh yeah, globalists. So that's gonna every time I

917
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: say globalists, I want to go to this globalism, you know,

918
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: the Illuminati to builder Burgs. But globalism is is the

919
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: thing that we can talk about, hopefully outside of the

920
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: context of of a crazy conspiracy theorists. So they have

921
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: this notion about sovereignty, that sovereignty is bad. And you

922
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: even had the chief National Security correspondent over at over

923
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: at CNN um he Mr Jim Shooto, who had the

924
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: following to say about sovereignty as well, say that the

925
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: point Robin highlighted there that this idea of sovereignty that's

926
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: a loaded term. That this is a favorite expression of

927
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: authoritarian leaders from China to Russia to African dictatorships. It's about,

928
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, we all have different values. Don't preach to

929
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: me about human rights. You've often heard that kind of

930
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: rhetoric pushing back in America saying, you know, democracy, open

931
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: society is the way forward. So to here an American

932
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: president that's a real departure from the public comments and

933
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: really a tenant of US foreign policy democrat and republican

934
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: for decades about not just uh the U S as

935
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: a democratic example, but but supporting democracy abroad. You what

936
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: a president here say, you know what, We're not gonna

937
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: impose Sovereignty is a loaded term. I think this is

938
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: a fascinating window into the minds of the the journalist,

939
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: the elitist journalist class that covers these issues because they've

940
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: been so indoctrinated into these theories of multilateralism and internationalism

941
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: and the world that has really governed first and foremost

942
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: by the U N that they, as I was saying,

943
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: they're uncomfortable the notion of an America that asserts its

944
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: interests and asserts its ability to pursue those interests despite

945
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: what the international community thinks, despite what the International Criminal

946
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: Court may say, or what the public, what the consensus

947
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: opinion at the Hague maybe on on any particular issue.

948
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: Journalists don't want to hear this. They are not believers

949
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: in in America that puts its its own interests above

950
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: those of all these different entities and bodies that come together.

951
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: And I think it was so fascinating. It's a dog whistle,

952
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: it's a loaded term. Uh, well, no, But what is

953
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 1: a state if it is not sovereign? If a state

954
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to exercise its authority within its borders,

955
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: if a state doesn't have the ability to defend and

956
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: maintain its borders, then what is it really? You know?

957
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: And I know now that we start to get into

958
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: some political philosophy when I want to hear, but how

959
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: can that a loaded term? And what does that say

960
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: about the kind of country that many Democrats and many

961
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: of the assella cord or the opinion making class that

962
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: largely lives from Boston to Washington, d C. And mostly

963
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: from New York City to Washington, D C. What is it?

964
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: What is the kind of country that they really want?

965
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: I think it is one that is willing to subordinate,

966
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: or that the leadership, the enlightened leadership, will subordinate the

967
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: interests of the American people, of you and me for

968
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: the benefit of you know, the rest of the world.

969
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: There are other people out there, you see. I'm not

970
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. I don't like that idea that bothers me.

971
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: And so I suppose sovereignty is a dog whistle for

972
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: folks like you and me, because the reassertion of in

973
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: America that is first and foremost concerned with its own people,

974
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: with its own citizenry, shouldn't be controversial that it's controversial

975
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: for anyone who makes a living reporting on this tree

976
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: and following politics and security issues tells us much more

977
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: about where journalists stand on this. Then. Whether or not

978
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: Donald Trump intended this as some kind of I don't

979
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: know what they think. It was sovereignty, the authority. If

980
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: you google the authority of a state to govern itself,

981
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: it's all it means that you know, this is like

982
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: uh Warwell, in a time of universal deceit to speak

983
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: the truth is a revolutionary act and a time of

984
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: just sweeping internationalism, and a time of deterioration of Western

985
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: cultures and Western civilization because of their inability to control

986
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: borders or inability to assert sovereignty. The reassertion of sovereignty

987
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: would seem to be very much needed and something that

988
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: we as Americans should celebrate, but instead some are very

989
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: much put off by it. Globalists. All right, we'll be

990
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: right back, welcome back to if we have Laurence Lauren

991
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: so Donald, I can't, and I've got a more serious

992
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: to talking about a second. But there's Laurence o'donald video

993
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: out there. This is always a reminder. This is why

994
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: there are a few things you find out in the

995
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: media world. One is that you better be nice to

996
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: everyone who works for you because otherwise they can get you.

997
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: And what ends up happening is uh tying am here

998
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm like yeah, I promised that'll be nice

999
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: Christmas gifts this year. But it's really important. Um And

1000
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: and that's something that you see at time and again.

1001
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: And you have Laurence O'Donnell, who is an MSNBC guy.

1002
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: I've never done a show. They don't have me on

1003
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: an MSNBC for for obvious reasons. Fine, I've got but

1004
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Laurence o'donnald is now out there. There's a video of

1005
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: him where he has what people who do enough TV

1006
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: no you've got to avoid, which is the meltdown on

1007
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: the staff, just a total meltdown aption on camera. Staff

1008
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: is all there and they are um uh you know

1009
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: they they got the video and I wish I could play,

1010
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: but there's so many curses and we don't have time

1011
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: to and I would not play curses over the air,

1012
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: of course, but I don't have time to bleep them

1013
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: out right now. But you can just imagine, I mean,

1014
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: he just he just loses it. And I always think

1015
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: it's so funny you get all these uh, these TV

1016
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: talking head types at some of these places, especially I'm

1017
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: talking about now, the the left wing cable networks that

1018
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: have these people. They're just oh, they're so so concerned

1019
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: about the middle class and about the oppressed, and you know,

1020
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and they're just the classic limousine liberals.

1021
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they are so holier than now on TV

1022
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: and they come off TV and they're just they're they're nasty.

1023
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean a great example this was I knew people

1024
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: who had worked for and with Keith Olberman in the past,

1025
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: and it's unusual to have so many people that are

1026
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: ideologically aligned with somebody say such bad things about them.

1027
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean said that he was just a and you're, yeah,

1028
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: you've heard, yeah, I'm not I'm not doing on even

1029
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: in the room right now. That's like, yeah, heard heard

1030
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: bad things. It just be abusive to staff, absolutely abusive,

1031
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: and yet it was paid millions and millions of dollars

1032
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: over the MSNBC, and that was paid all that money

1033
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: to be over at current TV and it looked like

1034
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: it was like Wayne's World without the phone. I don't

1035
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: know if you remember that thing Wayns Wood Wayanswood parody.

1036
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: I love Waynes World. By the way, the first Waynes

1037
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: World is a brilliant movie, really holds up. I think

1038
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: the second was a little unfortunate, but you know, it happens.

1039
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Um Okay. I was gonna talk to you about some

1040
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: more serious but I just I caught myself there looking

1041
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: at this. Um he's yelling, he's yelling, uh, stop hammering,

1042
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 1: stop hammering, and lots of lots of cursing. And now

1043
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: there's a meme I'm seeing on on Twitter with mc

1044
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: hammer and mc hammers dancing around, you know, doing doing

1045
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: some stuff on the meme, and it's just it's amazing.

1046
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: People are all very uh, you know, they are really

1047
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: having some fun with this Lawrence or Donalphins. So if

1048
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: you haven't gotten a chance to see it, it is

1049
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: not safe to put over the speakers at work, But

1050
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: I do think that you would enjoy enjoy um watching it,

1051
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: especially if you think that the people over at MSNBC

1052
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: are by and large a lot of them are big

1053
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: phonies who don't care about the working class. Don't care

1054
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: about the middle class and have made quite a bit

1055
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: of money with the pretense that they do. But it's

1056
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: it's a real it's a classic melt out. It's great,

1057
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: you gotta check it out, all right, onto the latest

1058
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: and the You've got two things today in the and

1059
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: I won't spend much time on this, and we've got

1060
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: Stewart Taylor joining us here to talk about the real

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Speaker 1: the change that Betsy Divos put in place when it

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Speaker 1: comes to campus sexual assault investigation. So we'll get there

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Speaker 1: in a moment. But there are two things things that

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Speaker 1: have two ways the story has advanced today when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the Mueller investigation and when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the other part of this. Right. One of them is

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Speaker 1: that you have uh Mueller apparently casting a very wide net.

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Speaker 1: And that's interesting just in and of itself, because I

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Speaker 1: thought he was really going to vote, or we hope

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Speaker 1: that he was just going to focus on this one

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Speaker 1: part of it. And the other is that he or

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Speaker 1: I should say, Manafort. There are reports, now this is

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Speaker 1: not yet confirmed, but reports that Manafort offered to give

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Speaker 1: special briefings to a Russian billionaire. That's that's the big

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Speaker 1: that's the big bombshell on CNN. That's what they're they're

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Speaker 1: pushing tonight. That's the big story. Now, I will say

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Speaker 1: that to me, it doesn't It doesn't strike a chord

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Speaker 1: of oh my gosh, what's what could that possibly? And

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Speaker 1: that doesn't freak me out as much just it would

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Speaker 1: people that believe that there was some big collusion thing

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Speaker 1: going on. That said, I can't really particularly explain that

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Speaker 1: other than I think manaforts. I've always thought he was shady,

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Speaker 1: and I've always told you that I thought he was

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Speaker 1: the one that was most likely to face some kind

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Speaker 1: of criminal sanctions or criminal charges. But Manafort Um is

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Speaker 1: also just he's shady, and so he does things that

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Speaker 1: show poor judgment. He does things that are uh not,

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Speaker 1: in my estimation, not what somebody with not just business

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Speaker 1: sense but but any hope of protecting their reputation in

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Speaker 1: a public setting would do. Um. And there was a

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Speaker 1: reason that Trump administration tossed him, And they've kept people

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Speaker 1: around for far too long. There were people who made

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Speaker 1: it through the Trump campaign that were pro Trump and

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Speaker 1: helping him during the campaign, that made it all the

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Speaker 1: way into the administration and got jobs that quite honestly,

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Speaker 1: they never should have got so for Manafort to get

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Speaker 1: dumped in the middle of the summer before the election

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Speaker 1: is a red flag. It was a red flag. There

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Speaker 1: was something going on there, and I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was just that he wasn't doing a good enough job

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Speaker 1: because Trump was Trump was the campaign. There's a campaign apparatus.

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Speaker 1: It was Trump, a plane and a Twitter account. That's

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Speaker 1: all he needed. But maniforts uh supposed offer to do

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Speaker 1: briefings for this Russian billion I don't think it proves collusion,

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Speaker 1: but once again it's like Manifort what what we're what

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Speaker 1: were you doing, buddy? Um? And he's got some tough

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Speaker 1: stuff I had him. I think, oh one more thing.

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Speaker 1: Almost left this out. They're saying that Samantha Power is

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Speaker 1: a report on Fox News, was engaging in all kinds

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Speaker 1: of shenanigans to find out stuff about people using intelligence collection.

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Speaker 1: And you know, at what point does that look shady

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Speaker 1: enough that there's going to be a a full hearing,

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Speaker 1: of full accounting of it. If those reports are true,

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Speaker 1: do we ever get to find out why the US

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Speaker 1: Ambassa of the United Nations is doing all this with

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Speaker 1: the with the unmasking that that everyone's been talking about

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Speaker 1: because it seems like there was a lot of it

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Speaker 1: going on. So look, there's not much that's moving the

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Speaker 1: needle here that the storyline is not moving forward all

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Speaker 1: that much on on unmasking and on or rather on

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Speaker 1: the investigation and on the other parts of the Mueller probe.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that, uh, you know, Manaford, it's

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Speaker 1: unfortunate Manafort has become a very useful, very useful causal

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Speaker 1: for the Democrats against the drump administration. I think that's

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Speaker 1: going to continue, and I think it's I think it's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna get worse. Um, We're gonna talk Hillary's book

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Speaker 1: tour and Obama's speaking tour in the next hour. But

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Speaker 1: first up, we've got to Stuart Taylor and the Campus

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Speaker 1: Rape Frenzy. He's the author of The Campus Rape Frenzy.

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Speaker 1: Talk about that and more in a few Stay with

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Speaker 1: Me Welcome Back team. We discussed when it happened, the

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Speaker 1: change in guidance courtesy of Betsy Divorce at the Education

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Speaker 1: Department when it comes to sexual assault on campus and

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Speaker 1: the guidelines for not just the accuser but also the

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Speaker 1: rights of the accused. This caused quite a stir among

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Speaker 1: those on the left, but we need to also look

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Speaker 1: at what the future will be here under the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration given this shift. We have Stewart Taylor Jr. On

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Speaker 1: the line. He's a nationally acclaimed legal journalist and author

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Speaker 1: of the Campus Rape Frenzy, the attack on due process

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Speaker 1: at America's universities. Stewart, great to have you. Nice to

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Speaker 1: be with you. So in the Wall Street Journal, you

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Speaker 1: and Casey Johnson argued that Education Secretary Betsy Divoce was right,

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Speaker 1: was correct to restore due process right so that both

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Speaker 1: accusers and accused are treated fairly. Tell us about what

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Speaker 1: what happened here, what was this change, and what some

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Speaker 1: of the background when it comes to sexual assault policy

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Speaker 1: that people need to fairly evaluate this well it has

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Speaker 1: the change isn't complete yet. I hope Petsy device will

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Speaker 1: follow through and we're waiting for the extrud to drop.

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Speaker 1: But basically the background as the Obama administration starting in

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven, basically decided for political reasons to gratify their

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Speaker 1: gender warrior base to destroy due process rights for young

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Speaker 1: man accused of rape and sexual assault on campus. Uh not,

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Speaker 1: this is not the criminal process to destroy their rights

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Speaker 1: to any kind of a fair hearing, basically presumed them guilty,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't allow cross examination, didn't allow them any of the

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Speaker 1: rights that somebody who's been put on trial for some

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Speaker 1: infamous alleged defense should have. Betsy DeVos, to her great credit,

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Speaker 1: I think about two weeks ago, in a speech, after

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Speaker 1: long study and interviewing people on all sides, uh rightly

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Speaker 1: denounced that system for the unfair system it was, and

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Speaker 1: said that she was going to uh work towards changing

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Speaker 1: it to assistant that's fair both to the accusers and

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Speaker 1: to the accuse, both to the women and to the men.

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Speaker 1: Unlike that, Unlike the Obama system, which probably is still

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Speaker 1: in place. Betsy Divas hasn't completed this change yet. The

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Speaker 1: Obama system is loaded is basically rigged against the accused,

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Speaker 1: which are almost all all young men. What I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: Betsy Divas will do and what what she said she's

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Speaker 1: going to do as a so called notice and common rulemaking,

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Speaker 1: which is a process of study, it's the right way

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Speaker 1: to do a regulation. The Obama people just issued decrease.

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Speaker 1: A notice and common rulemaking would lead to findings on

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Speaker 1: you know, I would hope on the unfairness of the

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Speaker 1: current system on its bias against males and would lead,

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Speaker 1: I hope to a series of specific requirements for any

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Speaker 1: college that wants to uh put men on trial for

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Speaker 1: what what are called sex crimes. How did the Obama

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Speaker 1: administration UH use leverage in order or what leverage did

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Speaker 1: it have in order to get these schools to comply

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Speaker 1: with it? Just a straight Title nine issue? Or how

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Speaker 1: was it that the White House was influencing this? They

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Speaker 1: have the power under Title nine, any White House UH

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Speaker 1: to issue regulations to enforce Title nine and if they

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Speaker 1: if their violations and their regulations, to take federal money away.

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Speaker 1: And all all universities almost all depend heavily on federal money.

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Speaker 1: So it's a death sence to take federal money away,

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Speaker 1: to take all of it. Uh. They were threatening, in essence,

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Speaker 1: all the colleges in the country, you'd better do the

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Speaker 1: sexual assault uh you know, rigged process the way we

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Speaker 1: tell you to, or we're going to take away your

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Speaker 1: federal money. The other sanction they had was to shower

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Speaker 1: them with terrible fublicity by putting them on a list

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Speaker 1: of universities that they said, okay, we've got all these

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Speaker 1: under investigation. There are some three d on the list.

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Speaker 1: They're all under investigation for, you know, for not protecting

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Speaker 1: victims of sexual assault, which is a you know, a

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Speaker 1: terrible cloud hangover university and the universities basically did exactly

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Speaker 1: what the Obama administration told them to, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of them we're happy to do it because they are

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Speaker 1: run by uh, their controlled lots of the bureaucracies, by

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Speaker 1: arden feminists and gender warriors, many of them, and so

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Speaker 1: uh you know, but the combination of the federal pressure

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Speaker 1: and the ideological inclinations of the college administrators and a

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Speaker 1: lot of the professors has led to an extremely unfair

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Speaker 1: system where dozens and dozens of innocent young men have

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Speaker 1: been railroaded out of college and branded as rapists. We're

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Speaker 1: speaking to Stuart Taylor, Jr. He's a claimed legal journalist

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Speaker 1: and author of The Campus Rape Frenzy, The Attack on

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Speaker 1: Due Process at America's universities. For those who are listening,

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Speaker 1: what are the kinds of unfair practices that were enshrined

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Speaker 1: into policy as a result of the Obama administration guidance

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Speaker 1: for campus sexual assault policies, or what are the kinds

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Speaker 1: of things and and the kinds of situations that almost

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Speaker 1: entirely young men, I'm assuming faced as a result of this. Yeah. Well, um,

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Speaker 1: they would be put in a sort of a trial

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Speaker 1: type situation. They would be tried before highly biased university

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Speaker 1: bureaucrats sex bureaucrats who are hired. Uh. You know, with

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Speaker 1: the idea, you know that that all men are guilty

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Speaker 1: of these crimes. Uh, these alleged crimes, all accused men. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They they report to the federal government, so you know,

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Speaker 1: the college knows that the federal government is going to

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Speaker 1: hammer them if they don't find enough young men guilty.

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Speaker 1: The young men are not given in many cases, are

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Speaker 1: not given full information about what the claim is, what

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Speaker 1: the evidence is. They're not allowed to put on their

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Speaker 1: evidence all their evidence. They're not allowed to cross examine

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Speaker 1: their accusers or to have them cross examined by lawyers

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Speaker 1: or by anybody else who's on their side. They're all

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Speaker 1: alone in front of this machine, and the machine grinds

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Speaker 1: right through them. And many of them have gone to court,

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Speaker 1: and some fifty fifty some have now won a lot

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Speaker 1: suits or at least have one preliminary motions in lawsuits, uh,

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Speaker 1: charging that their rights were violating and mean some of

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Speaker 1: the stories that I've heard Stewart include a young woman

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Speaker 1: who was seen rough housing with with her boyfriend and

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Speaker 1: some a third party reported at the administration. I think

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Speaker 1: this was a usc The administration looked into it. She

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Speaker 1: claimed that nothing bad happened, she had no injuries, that

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Speaker 1: it was all a joke, and that it was that

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Speaker 1: she was fine, and the administrators decided that they didn't

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Speaker 1: care that that sexual musconic had taken place, and there

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Speaker 1: were sanctions against her boyfriend as a result. I also

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Speaker 1: remember reading about an individual who looked like someone who

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Speaker 1: had sexually assaulted a young woman, and so they banned

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Speaker 1: him from certain parts of campus because he reminded her

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Speaker 1: of her attacker. These are the kinds of things that

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Speaker 1: make people wonder, how is there any fairness in this? Unbelievable?

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Speaker 1: And there's a case. We lead our book with the

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Speaker 1: case from Ammer's College. I went to Amer's So this

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Speaker 1: hits home. Yeah, go ahead. Uh. Basically, what happened in

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Speaker 1: this case is later proven by text messages, was that

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Speaker 1: the woman either seduced or depending on how you call it,

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Speaker 1: sexually assaulted the man. He was passed. He was almost

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Speaker 1: passed out, drunk, blackout, drunk, and she was not very drunk,

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Speaker 1: and she initiated a sexual act with him. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: sexual intercourse, but it was a sexual act, and did

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Speaker 1: it while he was kind of lying there more or

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Speaker 1: less unresponsive. And uh. And then later she got worried

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Speaker 1: that she was were going to be mad at her

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Speaker 1: because this was her roommate's boyfriend who she took advantage of,

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Speaker 1: and so she put out the story that he had

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Speaker 1: forced her to do it. Eventually she made a complaint

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Speaker 1: to the college that he had forced her to do it.

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Speaker 1: The college whipped up a quick kangaroo court, didn't give

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Speaker 1: him a fair chance to prove his innocence, didn't make

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Speaker 1: any effort to find the text messages. She lied in

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Speaker 1: testimony about the text messages, and they knew she was lying,

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Speaker 1: and they kicked him out. Now, he recently won some

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Speaker 1: out of a settlement. Suited anyone, some kind of a settlement,

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Speaker 1: But it's very you know, it's not much consolation, frankly. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And after the fact court victory, when you've been railroaded

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Speaker 1: out of college as a rapist, just one more for you, Stewart,

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Speaker 1: What do you think is the mentality or to the the

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Speaker 1: degree you're willing to try and explain, explain and analyze.

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Speaker 1: There are journalists, including so called legal experts, who go

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Speaker 1: on various cable and other networks and they'll say that

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Speaker 1: that this is uh, that the Betsy DeVos regulations are

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Speaker 1: helping with rape culture, meaning that you know, they're they're

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Speaker 1: they're letting rape culture flourish, which I don't even think

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Speaker 1: rape culture is a thing, but nonetheless uh. And they

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Speaker 1: will take this perspective that what the obaministration did and

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Speaker 1: the lack of protections for the accused that it resulted

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Speaker 1: on these campuses was somehow justified. Is this just? Is

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Speaker 1: it virtue signaling from the left? Is it? What do

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Speaker 1: you think the mentality domination of ideological extremism and virtue signaling.

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Speaker 1: Whether they really believe that almost all men accused as

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Speaker 1: men are guilty and that women never lie. Whether they

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Speaker 1: actually believe that, I'm not sure. I imagine a lot

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Speaker 1: of them do believe it, but that's the premise on

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Speaker 1: which they operate. And basically, guilty until prove you know,

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Speaker 1: you're guilty until proven innocent, and you don't get a

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Speaker 1: chance to prove yourself innocent. These are extremists and UH.

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Speaker 1: And they basically think the rights of accused men are

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Speaker 1: not worth protecting, and all women should any woman should

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Speaker 1: be able to destroy any man she chooses to destroy

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Speaker 1: by making a false accusation. Well, we'll see if Betsy

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Speaker 1: DeVos follows through them. We'll have you back home when

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Speaker 1: we know. Stuart Taylor is the author of the campus

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Speaker 1: rape Frenzy, the attack and do process at America's University Sture.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time today, Thanks very much. Team. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be talking coming up here in just

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Speaker 1: a few minutes about Hillary's book tour and Obama's speaking tour.

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Speaker 1: Stay with me, and but wait a second. Must not

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Speaker 1: have been easy, No, it must not have been easy

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Speaker 1: to write this book. It wasn't easy. I mean it

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: was painful. It was horrible reliving it, and you know,

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01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: being as candidate open as I could be about the

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Speaker 1: mistakes I made and talking about those, but also trying

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Speaker 1: to come to grips as I write in the book

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Speaker 1: about everything from you know, sexism and misogyny to voter suppression, UH,

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Speaker 1: to the unusual behavior of the former director of the

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Speaker 1: FBI and the Russians. And the Russians and you have

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01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: been What happened was the Russians. There. You have Hillary

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Speaker 1: on Colbert Rapport last night, and look, there's no there's

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Speaker 1: no surprise here at all. She's getting uh, the rock

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Speaker 1: star treatment from all of the rock star from all

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01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: of the different talk show hosts. And you know, people

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: out there that want to have will continue to have

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01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: big media careers and get paid a lot of money

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Speaker 1: for jobs that lots of other people could you and

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01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: in many cases do much better than they're doing. Our

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01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: comedians have really abandoned their posts, largely in this country,

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01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: where you have now Jimmy Kimmel thinks he's a pundit.

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01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert thinks he's a pundit. They're actually supposed to

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01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: make people laugh, but that requires skill and it's hard.

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01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: It's much easier to just be an ignoramus who bows

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Speaker 1: to the political power of Hillary Clinton and the Democrat

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01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: media and apparatus with her. So I am, and as

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Speaker 1: I say that, I have to be completely frank with you.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm reading what happened. What happened. I'm reading

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Speaker 1: it now because I have to, because this is what

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Speaker 1: I do, opposition research. It's why I'm also reading the

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Speaker 1: Antifa book. It's why I've spend so much time looking

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Speaker 1: at what the left wing twitter sphere has to say

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: it so that I understand their arguments and I can

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01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: bring you the best information possible and equip you with

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01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: what ever I can to win the argument if you

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01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: get into one, or just to know that you're right

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01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: and to be able to back it up with all

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Speaker 1: of the relevant facts. So Hillary's book has sold hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands of copies. It's doing very well. I can't

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Speaker 1: pretend that it's not. It's the biggest non fiction book

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: opening in five years. Isn't it amazing that for once

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01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: Hillary had to be a loser to win something. She's

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Speaker 1: gotten overpaid for so many books by these big publishing

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Speaker 1: companies because it's a prestige thing. You publish Hillary Clinton,

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01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: and you're part of the fancy cool person club. So

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Speaker 1: this time around Hillary after, I think I have to

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: check the number. Over a dozen books have been published

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Speaker 1: by Hillary Clinton. She doesn't write them. Now, why do

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: you mean I don't write No, she doesn't write them.

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Speaker 1: She's too busy doing elga why nasturl breathing. She's too

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01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: busy doing that to spend her time actually sweating out

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01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: a keyboard trying to find a way to explain her

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: incredible loss to Democrats and to the leftist media. But

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Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier this week, I am more

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01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: convinced of it than ever that she is going to

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Speaker 1: become a media figure. This is the next act for her.

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01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: And with Trump in office now, you can see that

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01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: much of the media feels like now there's really no

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Speaker 1: difference between media and politics, that they are one and

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Speaker 1: the same, and that if you become incredibly powerful in

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01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: one arena, that translates quite easily into the other. So

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton will take whatever her name recognition and the

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Speaker 1: political you know, the political power that she has, and

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Speaker 1: we'll translate that into being a force for the Democrats

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Speaker 1: in the media. This keeps her in the spotlight, which

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Speaker 1: is what she wants, and she's not going away. I'm

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Speaker 1: here forever ay and is going to be somebody that

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Speaker 1: you're hearing from for the foreseeable future. I would also

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Speaker 1: say that she's offering up and this was told to

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Speaker 1: me by one of my secret Manhattan based conservative advisors,

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Speaker 1: because I don't like I can't out my fellow conservatives

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Speaker 1: here in Manhattan, but I have people that I talked

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Speaker 1: to and are my sounding boards on this, and one

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Speaker 1: of them said to me, She's going to be an

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Speaker 1: alternative presidency for a lot of folks, because I know

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Speaker 1: that she's Hillary is not the inspiring candidate for the

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Speaker 1: left progressive base that Bernie Sanders was. I inspire, baby,

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01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: you know how I roll Bernie style. But she is

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Speaker 1: for the for the stone faced, humorless feminist contingent of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. She is still the candidate that they

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Speaker 1: wish they could have had, and she will give them

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Speaker 1: an opportunity. I believe by being a me you figure

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Speaker 1: to provide what the show the West Wing was during

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Speaker 1: the Bush years, which is an alternative presidency. Hillary is

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Speaker 1: going to be a kind of media enabled president in exile,

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01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: though she's not going to be going anywhere unfortunately. She's

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01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: just going to be hanging around and popping up on

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Speaker 1: TV a lot. But I think you got a bit

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Speaker 1: of a preview of that last night when she was

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Speaker 1: asked by Colbert as if we need to hear this

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Speaker 1: from Hillary Clinton. She was asked by Colbert, what would

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Speaker 1: you have said at the u N instead of what

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Speaker 1: Trump said? Here's what she Here's how she's responded. What

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01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: I'd hope the President would have said was something along

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Speaker 1: the lines of, you know, we view this as dangerous

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Speaker 1: to our allies, to the region, and even to our country.

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Speaker 1: We call on all nations to work with us to

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Speaker 1: try to end the threat posed by Kim John Nun. Now,

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01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: this is a perfect example of I often talked to

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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: you about with regard to Hillary and other Democrat politicians,

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01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: we've been so conditioned, we've been so convinced to think

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: that she's a genius, that that she's brilliant, that she

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: is so uh skilled at thinking about complex problems. There's

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01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: actually no evidence of that whatsoever. There's no policy matter

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Speaker 1: that you can point to when it comes to her

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Speaker 1: time as Secretary of State under the Obama administration where

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Speaker 1: she was really impressive on a complicated policy matter, I

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Speaker 1: can't think of one. I don't have one for you.

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Speaker 1: So let's put that aside, and then you look at

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01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: her dealings in healthcare when she was First Lady under

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's time in office. I mean, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: she messed that up real bad. And then you had

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Speaker 1: her time as a Senator in New York, where she

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Speaker 1: was just conventional, just doing everything that a Democrat senator

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01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: from New York would be expected to do. But the

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Speaker 1: narrative around her has always been that she's so billions,

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Speaker 1: she's so hard working, she's so deep when it comes

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01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: to knowledge on important and intricate policy matters, and there's

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Speaker 1: just no evidence for it. What she just said there,

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Speaker 1: I would have said, work together, and that's the This

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Speaker 1: is like what I would expect an eighth grader at

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Speaker 1: a model u n event to say and get some

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Speaker 1: applause from a teacher who was being a little bit

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01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: too kind. What she said there wasn't insightful. This is

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Speaker 1: the This was true of Obama as well. Obama would

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Speaker 1: say the most obvious stuff. You know, we're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna deal with thought difficult negotiations. It's gonna be difficult.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a negotiation on the other side, and

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: uh and uh, negotiations gonna be hard because it's hard

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Speaker 1: to negotiate. And people would say, oh, do you hear Obama,

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Speaker 1: He's so amazing the way he talks about those difficult

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Speaker 1: negotiations with Iran. He recognizes that they are difficult and

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01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: they are negotiations. This is This is true of Hlary

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Speaker 1: Clinton as well. She does something that's very straightforward, very simple,

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01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 1: and is praised for it like she's some kind of genius.

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Speaker 1: And it's just frustrating, I think for the rest of

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Speaker 1: us who are trying to look at this objectively. And

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01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, I don't sit around here telling you that

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01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 1: everything that Trump utters is some kind of modern day

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01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: Cicero moment. Uh. He speaks plainly, He speaks openly on

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01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: things that are clouded in diplomatic bureaucrates, which is refreshing.

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01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: But sometimes he says stuff that I'm like, well, that

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01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 1: wasn't particularly well worded, or that that wasn't the most

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01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: nuanced approach. He does that a lot, but that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't pretend that the that the opposite is true, though.

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01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't pretend that everything that Trump says is the

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01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: most brilliant thing to have ever been stated by politician.

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Speaker 1: With with Hillary, with Obama, It's amazing. You notice the crowd,

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01:23:55,200 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: They're cheering Hillary saying the most planned and obvious uh

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01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: talking points imaginable from the u N. But what happened was,

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01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just and she's just not capable of

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01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:16,520
Speaker 1: reaching out and and being uh an inspiring person despite

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01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: all of the praise from the media, the enormous fortune

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Speaker 1: that she amassed, the easiest stuff imaginable. I mean, I look,

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01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, the real, the real gig

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01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: that everyone wants, whether you're in media or politics, is

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01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: to get paid a lot of money to give speeches. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you show up prepared speech, you do it, you get

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. I mean, that's the best easiest

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01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: money you can get. That's really the top of the

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01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: of the financial desires pyramid for look for people in media,

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01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: for people all over the place in politics, when they

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01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: get out the first thing they want to do. But

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01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: with Hillary, it was at a level that will never

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Speaker 1: be replicated because it wasn't just speeches. It was selling influence.

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Speaker 1: It was peddling influence. It was selling access to the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation. But she's become increa doubly wealthy. She has

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Speaker 1: been fetted, she has been celebrated by the media for

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01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: such a long time. And oh, she was the victim

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01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: for a while, and then she's the you know, here,

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01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: I am a woman hearing me roar, and she's breaking

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01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: glass ceilings and all this stuff, and and it just

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: never worked. There's all these different iterations of it, because ultimately,

1478
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: unless you're able to be brainwashed by that propaganda, you

1479
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: see her for what she is and a moral grasping, dishonest,

1480
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: self righteous, solipsistic meaning she thinks she's the center of

1481
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: the universe. Uh, deeply flawed person, that's what she is.

1482
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: Now I'm reading her book because I have to, she

1483
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: has to. And I know that my Hillary impression is

1484
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: increasingly sounding like a parrot, but I think it's accurate

1485
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: enough for our purposes. So I'll let you know what

1486
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: I think of this What Happened book now that I'm

1487
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: going to dive into it and ripped through it in

1488
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,480
Speaker 1: the next few days. And yes, I suppose I am.

1489
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,879
Speaker 1: I am contributing to I I am funding the Clinton

1490
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: empire with with my dollars on kindle here, But there's

1491
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 1: no way around it. Oppo research has got to get done.

1492
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 1: But that's the latest on Hillary. The book is hundreds

1493
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: of thousands of copies sold, so people apparently do want

1494
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: to know what happened. I want to be clear, We're

1495
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: not We're not trying to push financial reform because we

1496
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean I do think

1497
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: at a certain point you've made enough money. At a

1498
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 1: certain point, you've made enough money. So there's the other

1499
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: Democrat president in exile if you believe the media is

1500
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: approach to these things, and you take their word for it,

1501
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: because remember they think that Donald Trump is illegitimate and

1502
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: so Hillary is therefore the legitimate president, and Obama is

1503
01:26:55,439 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: more legitimate than Trump. You have President Obama, former me,

1504
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: former President Obama there talking about how and this was

1505
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: years ago. You may recall that Obama was always the

1506
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: class warrior and talking about redistributing the wealth and how

1507
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: the rich need to pay more people than to quote,

1508
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: pay their first sure and compare their first sure. And

1509
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: you certainly recall that that was unfortunately all too effective

1510
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: for him as a politician. But as we see time

1511
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: and again, politicians in the Democrat Party aren't held to

1512
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: the standards that they want to hold the rest of

1513
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: us too. Uh. It is now coming out once again,

1514
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: this was reported many months ago, but that Obama is

1515
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: going is going to be giving a speech or gave

1516
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: a speech, I don't even know which it was this

1517
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: week where he'll be getting paid about four hundred grand

1518
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: to give a speech to a Wall Street firm. He's

1519
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: giving speeches to companies in the financial sector, the very

1520
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: companies that he used to deride in fact as fat cats.

1521
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: Remember this, I did not run for office to be

1522
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: helping out a bunch of uh, you know, fat cat

1523
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: bankers on Wall Street. But now he doesn't have to

1524
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: convince the commentary at over an, MSNBC or anywhere else

1525
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:25,520
Speaker 1: for that matter, that he's a man for the underclass,

1526
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: that he's someone who is fighting for the working man,

1527
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: the common man, and woman. That pretense can go away.

1528
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Now Obama can fully embrace a celebrity status. And I

1529
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 1: think that as we continue to see the Democrats scrambling

1530
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: for a a leader of the party, they don't really

1531
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: have one. I don't think it's going to be check him,

1532
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's gonna be I don't think

1533
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,839
Speaker 1: either of them are likely to be a presidential candidate anytime,

1534
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: so they're trying to figure out who's going to be next.

1535
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: In the me time, they have Obama and Hillary both

1536
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: speaking from positions of private life but very much in

1537
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: the public eye. And this is going to be interesting

1538
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: to watch this play out with Obama in particular because

1539
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: you're going to see a former president that is more involved,

1540
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: I think in the conversation for the next presidency and

1541
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: for politics in between, than any president in modern history.

1542
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: Obama is still on the left a superstar, and that's

1543
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: why they will, in no way, shape or form hold

1544
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: him to account for doing exactly what I should note

1545
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: they did give Hillary a hard time for, which was

1546
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: giving speeches to Wall Street, the Bernie Sanders wing of

1547
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, uh, the the progressives within the Democrat

1548
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: part of the true socialist progressives. They they were at

1549
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: the time at least perfectly willing to point out that

1550
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: Hillary was given speeches, that she was going around and

1551
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: selling her time to the highest bidder. I think there

1552
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: were some speeches that were in the three or four

1553
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar range for Hillary. I mean, Bill was

1554
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: getting as much as eight hundred thousand dollars of speech.

1555
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 1: But when you run a giant influence peddling scheme, we

1556
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: can expect that the fees will go higher. But they

1557
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: had problems with Hillary over this. They were annoyed with

1558
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: what was clear hypocrisy on her part. I'm going to

1559
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: go out on a limb here and bet that you're

1560
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: never going to hear any criticism of Obama really for

1561
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: doing this that now that it doesn't help him to

1562
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: beat up on Wall Street or at least pretend to

1563
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: now that he can give up that charade, No, no

1564
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: one's going to hold him to account for it. And

1565
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,520
Speaker 1: I just think that this is one of the defining

1566
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: characteristics of the modern Democrat Party and and the progressive

1567
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: ideology you that currently motivates and mobilizes it, and that

1568
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: is hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is one of the most widespread failings

1569
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: you'll see on the American left, and it is embraced

1570
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: really they because they always talk about collective action, so

1571
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: the actions of an individual can't really matter all that much.

1572
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 1: So you know, Obama can go out there and talking

1573
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: about paying your fair share and talk about how Wall

1574
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 1: Street fact cats make too much money, but that's all

1575
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: so that he can then get legislation passed or push

1576
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 1: for legislation while he's president that will have higher taxes

1577
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: on high earners that will redistribute the wealth that in

1578
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: his own life, he's going to conduct himself as the

1579
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: Wall Street is great and they're good buddies. And we

1580
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: should also note he got more money from Wall Street

1581
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 1: than any previous candidate in history as a president. So

1582
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: this notion that he was a foe of Wall Street

1583
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: was always a lie, It was always a myth. But

1584
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: that there's a hypocrisy at work he or isn't gonna

1585
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: bother a vast majority of those on the left. You're

1586
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: not going to see Democrats that are particularly upset about this,

1587
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: because whether the issue is finance, or taxes or climate change,

1588
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: it's not about what any one person does. It's about

1589
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: forcing every other person to do it. And this is

1590
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: part of the virtue signaling ethic of the Democrat Party.

1591
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: This is why you can have al Gore pushing for

1592
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 1: all this climate change legislation and taking private jets everywhere.

1593
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: They don't run away from this. The hypocrisy is too obvious. Now.

1594
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: They're not going to claim, for example, that al Gore

1595
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: doesn't fly on private jets. They're not going to claim that,

1596
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 1: you know, Hillary, well, Hillary they have a tough time

1597
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 1: with because she's a loser and she didn't get it

1598
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: done for them. But with Obama, they're going to give

1599
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: him a pass on speaking. Remember, he's not just speaking

1600
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: for four hundred grand he's speaking at Wall Street events.

1601
01:32:56,120 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: For four grand and he's somebody who used to talk about, uh,

1602
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: how you can as I played for the audio, you

1603
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: can make enough money. You don't need to make more money.

1604
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: Obama is already worth tens of millions of dollars. Does

1605
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: he really need to be giving speeches for four dollars

1606
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: a pop to Wall Street firms? Does he really need

1607
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 1: to be fabulously wealthy beyond already being fabulously wealthy. I

1608
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: just wonder his whole mentality of needing to give more

1609
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: to the or have more taken from you by the governments.

1610
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: You can give more, the government can give more to

1611
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: people who did not earn it. Uh. That doesn't seem

1612
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: to in any way manifest itself in his approach where

1613
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: he's making. You know, you can say, oh, buckle, maybe

1614
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 1: he'll give some portion away to charity. Okay, fine, But

1615
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: if Wall Street was really all about exploiting people and

1616
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 1: fat cats and hurting Main Street, as Obama said for

1617
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: eight years, then does he really have to show up

1618
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: at their events now and take big checks from them?

1619
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 1: Of course the answer is no. It's ypocritical. But they'll

1620
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: give him a pass because with Democrats it is always

1621
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: do as they say not as they do hitting quick break,

1622
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: your team will be right back. Hey, team, it's buck.

1623
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: I know we haven't gotten into this earlier on the show,

1624
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 1: even though I'm watching it very closely, and no doubt

1625
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: you're seeing this all across various news sites. There is

1626
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: a very serious hurricane, a Category four that is currently

1627
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: hitting Puerto Rico. It's also hit some smaller islands in

1628
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: the Caribbean, and Puerto Rico has been plunged into darkness.

1629
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 1: There is a blackout that is affecting essentially the entire island.

1630
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 1: And this is US territory, so we have a few

1631
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: million of our fellow Americans who are in a very

1632
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: dangerous storm situation there and have been plunged into, uh,

1633
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: the darkness of a blackout. So clearly very concerning and

1634
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: something that we'll be watching from a news perspective, and

1635
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers go to the people of Porto Rico.

1636
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: The same can be said for Mexico City, which is

1637
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:09,919
Speaker 1: recovering right now from a major earthquake, and the scenes

1638
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: of devastation there are really tough to look at. You

1639
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: have entire buildings collapsing, you have emergency crews working feverishly

1640
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: to try and get people who are trapped under the

1641
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 1: rubble out while they're still time. I know the death

1642
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: told there is around a hundred reported, and it's going

1643
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 1: to go higher as they go into areas of Mexico

1644
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 1: City where the building code isn't a thing that people

1645
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: care much about or that builders care about, and so

1646
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: there are some structures that have collapsed entirely, and it's

1647
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: just it's just a gut puncher. You watch this and

1648
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 1: you realize that this could happen anywhere to any of us.

1649
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: I can't help but just think out loud about how

1650
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Mother Nature has been teach ing all of us a

1651
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: lesson in humility recently, and the storm systems that have

1652
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: hit us, the hurricanes, UH, these go to show that

1653
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: even in our era of incredible technology and innovation and

1654
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: our ability to in so many ways tame the environment

1655
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: around us, when when Mother Nature unleash's her wrath, there

1656
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 1: are going to be consequences and there's really nothing we

1657
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: can do to be completely safe from these situations. And

1658
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: it just is a luck of the draw whether your

1659
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: area gets hit by a hurricane, tornado, UH, tidal wave,

1660
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:48,719
Speaker 1: any number of natural disasters that have been befalling us

1661
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 1: since the dawn of mankind. So I haven't spent much

1662
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: time on it on the show today X because well,

1663
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 1: I just don't have much to add to what's going

1664
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: on other than the ongoing news coverage and and as

1665
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 1: we have more on this, I'll certainly share with you

1666
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: updates about it. But it is really trembling, and I

1667
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 1: wish that there were some ways that we could better

1668
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: prepare for these situations, whether it's Houston or Florida, or

1669
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico or Mexico City, all these places. Louisiana I know,

1670
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 1: has been hit really badly recently, and the politicization that

1671
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: happens after these events. I would like to think that

1672
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: these would always be moments where we come together as

1673
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,600
Speaker 1: as a people, as human beings, and just see a

1674
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: lot of the best in each other and are automatically

1675
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: in a in a team formation against the elements. You

1676
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: know that we're all just trying to keep each other

1677
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: safe and alive and and protect our homes and possessions

1678
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: the degree that we can as well. But sure enough,

1679
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: there are all these people out there who are not

1680
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: in any way scientifically qualified to talk about anything, but

1681
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: they see this, They see this misery, they see the disasters,

1682
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:12,560
Speaker 1: they see the destruction as an opportunity to push an agenda.

1683
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 1: And I just wish that there was less of a

1684
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: of a knee jerk reaction among so many. And it's

1685
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 1: it's particularly strong among the left. Let's be honest. I'm

1686
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 1: sure there are some right wingers out there who have

1687
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 1: things to say about natural disasters too that aren't helpful,

1688
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 1: and then I would wish they would just shut up about.

1689
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: But on the left, the stuff about climate change. So

1690
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 1: what are we to think that climate change is also

1691
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: causing earthquakes? Is that? Is that the next tier of

1692
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: discussion we can expect, because the evidence for climate change

1693
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: causing earthquakes is about as strong as the evidence for

1694
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: climate change causing hurricanes, which is to say that it's

1695
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: not a reasonable position, but people take it all the time.

1696
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: And you also see that there's a disc nect that

1697
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: progressives and and leftists have a disconnect from the suffering

1698
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: of those that are affected by this insofar as one

1699
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: and this was really uh jaw dropping. They were making

1700
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: comments about how a flood in Houston was somehow tied

1701
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: into Houston being conservative and global warming deniers. Meanwhile, Houston

1702
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 1: goes Democrat and that's just a crazy way to think

1703
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: about natural disasters. No matter what. I don't care what

1704
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 1: the politics of any area are. These are people that

1705
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 1: need our help and they're they're our people, and it's

1706
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 1: just it's really disappointing, honestly when you see that there

1707
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,560
Speaker 1: are other Americans who and I mean people with platforms

1708
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: and people that have followings, not just random angry commenters

1709
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 1: on the Internet. There are people that aren't able to

1710
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: just see the sympathy and the desire to help and

1711
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: all of that that comes naturally to us, or to

1712
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 1: most of us, when something terrible happens to people through

1713
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: no fault of their own, which is always the case

1714
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 1: in a natural disaster. Uh, that sympathetic urge can be

1715
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 1: so easily overridden on the left by the desire to

1716
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 1: make some political point. So it's it's less important to

1717
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: focus on from a news and commentary perspective for some people.

1718
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying for everybody, but for some people out there,

1719
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: less important to focus on the devastation so that people

1720
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: know how serious it is, so there's more of an

1721
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 1: impetus to help. And also the government and private sector

1722
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: resources can be better arrayed to assist those in need.

1723
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: That's somehow less important than to some people, to some

1724
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 1: progressives then making sure that they can wine on about

1725
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 1: global warming or climate change. I've never even heard somebody

1726
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: try to explain openly why we were just supposed to

1727
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: switch from global warming to climate change without any without

1728
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: any real explanation of this, without a real public hearing

1729
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: on it. It just happened. But here I am talking politics,

1730
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to I just wanted to focus

1731
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: for a few moments on what's going on here in

1732
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 1: um Puerto Rico, the Caribbean, and it could make landfall

1733
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: on the mainland US, who knows. And it's just a

1734
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 1: reminder that luck plays a huge part in everything in

1735
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: our lives. It really does. Um, you just never know.

1736
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 1: And as advanced as we are, and as much as

1737
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 1: we've overcome so much of the environment around us, and

1738
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 1: life expectancies are longer than ever before, and we live

1739
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 1: in a time of abundance and safety that would have

1740
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: been unthinkable, absolutely unthinkable even a few hundred years ago. Uh,

1741
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: there are still these incidents, these moments where we are

1742
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: reminded that life is in fact fragile, that civilization itself

1743
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: is largely in agreement and has its own weaknesses and

1744
01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 1: its own fragility. And this is why people pray, and

1745
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: this is why people understand that there's more than just

1746
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 1: the day to day that they should be focused on. UM. Alright,

1747
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run to a break. Your team will close

1748
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 1: out the show, and a few stay with me. Welcome

1749
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: back team. Very excited. Tonight I get to hang out

1750
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 1: with my parents and my little sister. We're gonna go

1751
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 1: out on the town and actually get dinner in New

1752
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: York City. This is about as as social as I

1753
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: tend to get, other than saying hello to my neighbors

1754
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: in the hallway and talking to people that I work with.

1755
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 1: But you know, I've been making a real push. I'll

1756
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: be out of dinner tonight, so I'll be on UM

1757
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: lacks regulations for myself. I've been making a push to

1758
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: get healthy, mostly because the stuff that Ms. Molly gave

1759
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 1: me for my birthday last year and some of the clothing,

1760
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 1: and uh, it's been a little snug. It's given me

1761
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: getting a little a little tight. You know, I've been

1762
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: wanting to undo the top button when I sit down

1763
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: to eat dinner sometimes. So, as I've been mentioned to you,

1764
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm not yet Eddie to fully embrace dad bod because

1765
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a dad yet. So once that happens, I'm

1766
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: gonna be going dad body in full effect. But you know,

1767
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: you get back into the gym and you know, I

1768
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm sure many of you have the same

1769
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: experience those first couple of times back when you realize

1770
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: that that it's that it's on now, like it's for real.

1771
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: It hurts so much. It's so much more difficult that

1772
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. Because yeah, sure, I mean, I've

1773
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: been going, right, I've been going to the gym, but

1774
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: I've been going in the way that you go, and

1775
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: it's almost like you're doing yoga with weights. Although I

1776
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: don't like yoga, I've I've been trying to teach myself

1777
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 1: and do some positions, and I'm like, this is just

1778
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:44,799
Speaker 1: not for me. Maybe that will change one day. Yoga

1779
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 1: is not really for me. I tried meditation that's not

1780
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: really for me, reading old history books that relaxes my

1781
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: mind and makes me happy. So that's my version of meditation,

1782
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: I guess. But I've been trying to get back into

1783
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: the gym and do it for real, like I've been going.

1784
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I've been you know. I spent

1785
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: a whole time on the elliptical. You can watch TV

1786
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,599
Speaker 1: on the elliptical, and that's all well and good. It's

1787
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: certainly better than nothing. But now I've done the whole

1788
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: set up a circuit. Uh focus on going until failure,

1789
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,720
Speaker 1: do different, you know, focus on different body parts in

1790
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 1: the circuit and keep and man, it's brutal. It hurts,

1791
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: Like I just wish that there was a way to

1792
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 1: skip those initial phases where your body's like you're so

1793
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: out of shape, You're so out of shape, like it's

1794
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 1: screaming at you when you're trying to do some of

1795
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 1: these things. And then your mind starts play games on YouTube.

1796
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 1: My mind starts to say, like Buck, what do you

1797
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 1: come on? Man? Do you do radio? What is this?

1798
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 1: What is Oh? You need to do a plank? Oh?

1799
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: Because you need to work on your abs? Like who cares? Right,

1800
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,879
Speaker 1: I just don't want to have to get a new wardrobe.

1801
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 1: I can't afford it. So I need to to stop

1802
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: the advance of the bell at it's my huge bell a,

1803
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: it's my j Billy. This reminds me I had a

1804
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: character named Angus MC and it's we used to do

1805
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 1: on the Buck Sexton Show at the Blaze, and I

1806
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 1: think I should probably bring him back. And I've been

1807
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: promising Commy Bear forever and people are now going to

1808
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: the website and they're saying, what is why do you

1809
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 1: have some weird Soviet bear on buck sex and dot com?

1810
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, look, well it'll it'll happen. We'll get there.

1811
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 1: It's just that he's when you're dealing with a relic

1812
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: from the Cold War um who is also Earth sign

1813
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: and can be ordinary, it's difficult to get Commy Bear

1814
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 1: to come along for the ride. And some of you

1815
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 1: listening are like, what the heck is this kid talking about?

1816
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: You'll see, just keep downloading the show or keep listening

1817
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:38,839
Speaker 1: to it live wherever you are, and you will eventually

1818
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 1: become acquainted with the little Marxist mammal uh Commy Bear.

1819
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 1: But back to the trials and tribulations of trying to

1820
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: get you know, trying to trying to drop a few

1821
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: because I've I've been steering into a Dad Bob territory recently.

1822
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: And then you start reading about how you need to

1823
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 1: do your own food. So I will say that there

1824
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 1: are some eating to cook your own food, because if

1825
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: you order in, I mean, you're always gonna get the fries, right,

1826
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: this is America. When someone's like you get fries with that,

1827
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna think, well, I would like to have a

1828
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,799
Speaker 1: salad instead. No, I don't think so. Plus the salad

1829
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 1: they send you as a side salad, it's always like

1830
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 1: this little you know, it looks like like somebody pulled

1831
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 1: something out of the back of a lawnmower and put

1832
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 1: it on your plate. Right, It's never appetizing, there's no

1833
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 1: This side salad never has uh well, croutons have gluten

1834
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 1: in them, but it's never like parmesan shavings. There's nothing

1835
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: exciting in that side salad. It's like mulch. So I

1836
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: don't tend to get very excited about that. I'm and

1837
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 1: and French fries or right up there, uh second, really

1838
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: only to chocolate. I think for my weaknesses, I think

1839
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 1: it's chocolate French fries and then different kinds of cheese.

1840
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 1: That's where I really fall apart, and all of a sudden,

1841
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 1: the willpower, you know, the devil on one shoulder and

1842
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 1: the angel and the other the angels like, but come on, like,

1843
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: it's better for your health, and Devil's like, dude, it's

1844
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: double cream brick, come on and the brie. The bree

1845
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 1: voice often wins. But I've been trying to get into

1846
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: doing this is one of the reasons why I've been

1847
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 1: cooking more recently. It's because I want to make it's

1848
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: really food prep so that I can make more food

1849
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: for myself and not just be like I'm gonna order

1850
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: Thai food. You know, it's like ten bucks and it's great,

1851
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 1: and I mean, Patty tastes amazing, but it is not

1852
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,799
Speaker 1: exactly what you want to be eating if you're trying

1853
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 1: to get back into fighting shape. So I got and

1854
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: this is what I really want to tell you about.

1855
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 1: I got a slow cooker and Ms Molly and I

1856
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 1: used it for the first time yesterday. This thing is amazing.

1857
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 1: It's like magic. It's this big tub that you plug

1858
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 1: into a wall. You have like two different dial speeds

1859
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 1: that you can go to, like hot and not so hot,

1860
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 1: and you just leave it in there for hours and

1861
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 1: then you come and come back when you're done three hours,

1862
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: four hours, whatever. And it's just perfectly cooked and moist meat.

1863
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: We just did a a simple chicken dish, you know,

1864
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: just we really it wasn't even a dish. It was

1865
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 1: just chicken that we let with some seasoning and some

1866
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: spices and some chicken stock, and we threw that on

1867
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: a salad and it was amazing. So I'm excited for

1868
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: this because one of the great a one of the

1869
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: great advantages of my time when I was at the

1870
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:21,719
Speaker 1: Blaze going back and forth from New York to Dallas, Dallas,

1871
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 1: New York was whatever in Dallas, obviously try to sample

1872
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 1: some of the barbecue. And I would do this with

1873
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,639
Speaker 1: with frequency, and so I would go to Hard eight

1874
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: outside of Dallas, and I never made it to Pecan Lodge,

1875
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 1: which was upsetting. And one day I'm hoping to just

1876
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: be able to travel to all the different great uh

1877
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: the great mecca's if you will, of barbecue and UH

1878
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:49,560
Speaker 1: and visit the different regional cuisines or regional variations on barbecue.

1879
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: So I really know, because I think Texas is the

1880
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 1: only one that I've had any good experience or a

1881
01:48:56,520 --> 01:49:00,040
Speaker 1: good amount of experience with. But I used to be

1882
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:01,799
Speaker 1: able to do barbecue. When I go down to Dallas

1883
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 1: to visit Glen and the whole team down in Dallas

1884
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 1: for the Blaze. And now that's right, I'm gonna be

1885
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,639
Speaker 1: a Yankee who's making his own barbecue because a slow cooker.

1886
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: And I know some of you are like Buck, No,

1887
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't count. You don't have a smoker. You don't

1888
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 1: have a I don't even know, like a pit where

1889
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 1: you coal in it or something. I don't even know

1890
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 1: how you're supposed to do this, right, because in New

1891
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: York it's this isn't really the way that it goes.

1892
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 1: But you can in fact make pretty good, pretty good

1893
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm told barbecue using a slow cooker. And so I'm

1894
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: gonna be experimenting with this now. Um, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to post some like Buck does cooking videos

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Speaker 1: on Facebook just so I talked about this stuff on

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Speaker 1: radio and for those of you who care or don't care,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Um, maybe I'll put the videos up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I do make the best scrambled eggs in

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Speaker 1: the world. I may have made scrambled eggs this morning

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Speaker 1: on a on a corn cake that was phenomenal. Um,

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna start doing barbecue, so I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of you come from region of the con tree

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Speaker 1: where barbecue is an art form. If you have any

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Speaker 1: tips for me on the sauce which doesn't need I

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Speaker 1: think coal and open flame fire all that stuff, or

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Speaker 1: if you have tips for slow cooker barbecue, Facebook dot com,

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Speaker 1: slash buck, sext and send them my way, and if

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Speaker 1: I if I use one, I will certainly give you

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Speaker 1: credit on air and maybe even post some photos of

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Speaker 1: the of the end result. But slow cooker is pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: Never use one before and never have one before, and

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Speaker 1: it's exciting. And this is all spurred on by me

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Speaker 1: wanting to make my own food so that I don't

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Speaker 1: have to be reliant on delivery and take out, which

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Speaker 1: in New York tends to be really yummy and then

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Speaker 1: gives you heartburn and you realize you've ingested like calories

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Speaker 1: that you didn't need to. But I digress, So I'll

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Speaker 1: have updates for you on my barbecue cooking. And also

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Speaker 1: single length single leg lunges such a simple exercise, but

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Speaker 1: if you do them enough, they're so painful, uh so,

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Speaker 1: and and planks it's just yeah, I really want to

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm strapped into some kind of a torture

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Speaker 1: device on the ground with a plank anyway, it's it's terrible, um,

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Speaker 1: but I'll give you updates on that. But slow cooker Yeah,

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Speaker 1: slow cooker so far awesome and I could definitely use

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Speaker 1: some tips on how to use the slow cooker, so

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Speaker 1: let me know. And with that team, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: closing out the show. I'm gonna go hang out with

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Speaker 1: my folks. My little cis very exciting to get some

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Speaker 1: time with them. Please do send me your thoughts, whether

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Speaker 1: it's recipes for for barbecue or just anything else you

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Speaker 1: got on your mind. Facebook dot com slash Buck Sex

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Speaker 1: it's a great place to do that. We will also

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Speaker 1: have on the show on Friday, Team Buck Speaks, and

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Speaker 1: please do share the podcast with a friend. It really

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Speaker 1: does help. And I love hearing that people have spread

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Speaker 1: the word about buck sextion with America now as much

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Speaker 1: as they can, so it's a big help and it

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Speaker 1: is really really appreciated. I'll be hanging with you guys tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Until then, Shield Tie