WEBVTT - Antoine Bethea

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John And this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>They's getting down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>am about it, then we're about to let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all. There's sometimes like we play sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 1>got Peggy bowl up? What's going on? How was your

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<v Speaker 1>weekend entertaining? What'd you get into? Uh? Did some yard work?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I didn't do new yard work. I pushed it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I was supposed to. I'm gonna end up doing

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<v Speaker 1>something this weekend, trying to end up. Buddy was in town.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh toy Smith shout out the toy. Yeah, so he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was up in town and UH called me Friday

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<v Speaker 1>night and was asking me was I in town? He

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<v Speaker 1>was coming down. They were doing uh you're doing this

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<v Speaker 1>uh under armour all American, like this skills challenge where

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<v Speaker 1>they had high school kids. They were running forties vertical job.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was pretty it was pretty big time.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds dope, it was, but it was also one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where I I never experienced this in

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<v Speaker 1>high school, but I believe it can warp your perception

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<v Speaker 1>of things, and I just really saw some things that

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<v Speaker 1>were as a parent, I saw some things in myself

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that's my wife was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>We would say, you didn't experience what you mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like this, like the kind of just gamboree type

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<v Speaker 1>type thing. It was. It was big talk. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>They had some kids our ranked seventy five in the nation,

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<v Speaker 1>thirtieth in the nation, in the nation, it was all around.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm a little bit younger than you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like even when I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff was really just starting to kick off. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the seven on seven tournaments like that stuff. Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't start doing that till my senior year in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. Was we did seven on seven tournaments in

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<v Speaker 1>high school just to kind of get yourself familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of competition and that that goes on no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what stole on your offense all that, but this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it wasn't a thing. This was like esp or rank. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they had some players, I believe, according to

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<v Speaker 1>what they say, are highly ranked. That you know, you'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>as some people told me, you will see some of

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<v Speaker 1>these some of these young men playing on Sunday already

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<v Speaker 1>know that. They already know that. Yeah. And and some

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<v Speaker 1>of these young men were conducting and carry themselves as

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<v Speaker 1>if they were already playing on something. What you mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that? It was just a lot. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in regard. So and maybe I'm just old school,

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<v Speaker 1>and I probably am, but I am old school in

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<v Speaker 1>them in in a matter of fact of like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of this generation is all about

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<v Speaker 1>about that life right that yolo. And so I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was asked to if I see something corrected. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working with the wide receivers and we're going over

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<v Speaker 1>some over some how to swim or how to get

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<v Speaker 1>off the jam right or the press coverage or quick jam.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was just surprised at how many navels

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<v Speaker 1>I saw out on the field. You mean, like the

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<v Speaker 1>high tuck the in Jerseys, No, I call it what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I saw a lot of No, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of crop tops, That's what I saw. And

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<v Speaker 1>I and to be honest, I'm just telling you what

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<v Speaker 1>I saw. I have. I've seen it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You always got a guy or two, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of them. It was a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of crop tops and navels and and ear rings with

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<v Speaker 1>hoops and and and and crosses and so they were

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<v Speaker 1>they were swagged out. Yeah, here's the problem. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the standard of swag is lowered because when I started

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<v Speaker 1>coaching some of these kids. No one of these kids

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know his name and our name, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>ask it because it was just it was so many kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, hey, you know, let's swim. You

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't do swimming moves. Right, One kid swam and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, like you swimming and he hit the

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<v Speaker 1>bag as if he was someone under five six? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are you? And so I said this statement, and this

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<v Speaker 1>summarizes everything I mean about the crop tops in their rings.

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<v Speaker 1>I wear air rings always half but on the football field,

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<v Speaker 1>also about my business. So one of these young man,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, hey, man, if you're gonna swim, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>swim and swinging that arm violently, right, I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta it's a fist fighting the phone book. You're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get off the line. Fist fighting the phone that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I love using fist fighting the phone book, not haymakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Fist fight just you know, punch out, rocking, sock 'em bops, right,

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<v Speaker 1>kid tells me, And it just makes sense connected the dots.

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<v Speaker 1>See you ever been in a fight? He goes, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not really. All you needed to hear. If you got

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<v Speaker 1>that crop top and never rings, you had better been

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<v Speaker 1>in the fight. And why is that imports of you, Steve?

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard to say, No, it's not. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a hand to hand. It's a violent sport. But you

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<v Speaker 1>look in the part, you're looking like you're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>get after someone you ain't. Why does that bother you

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<v Speaker 1>people who look the part? Because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who looked apart, and they get so much credit

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<v Speaker 1>for looking apart, and then you get them out there

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<v Speaker 1>and they want no parts of the game, and then

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<v Speaker 1>then you get a false narrative of that's how they are.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's you know, as they say, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>with the receiver, So you know what they call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Diva's right, don't look the part of it, the diva part.

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<v Speaker 1>I go out there and ball but I just I

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<v Speaker 1>found it me personally, I found it extremely disappointing that

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<v Speaker 1>so focused on how I understand look good, play good.

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<v Speaker 1>But then also when I tried to give them criticism, coaching,

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<v Speaker 1>correction and correction and critiquing, man, the crop tops got

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<v Speaker 1>in a bunch. But what do what do you think change?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you think changed generates? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it definitely wouldn't like that from your stand point?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? So? I believe it's changes. Our

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<v Speaker 1>young men are listening to music, emulating the music, and

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<v Speaker 1>behaving in the manner in which they see off a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty second Instagram posts. They're mimicking things and don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>what they're mimicking to some degree isn't very masculine. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how this is gonna come across, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt it was extremely I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>was at a fashion show instead of a football display,

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<v Speaker 1>and not everybody. There's some there's some beast out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but then there's some. There was some beasts who looked beast,

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<v Speaker 1>but they really weren't there for the right intentions. That

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<v Speaker 1>also why that's important why I found that as a dad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also setting them up for failure and not really

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<v Speaker 1>giving them a realistic understanding of what they're embarking on.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not embarking on the popularity contest. They're definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>embarking on a fashion contest. It's football, It's about skills,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's actually about producing. Because there were some times

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<v Speaker 1>where I gave some coaching and some kids received the coaching,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are some kids who looked at me as if,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I know? It's different? Man. That's why I asked,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't what do you what do you think it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I agree, I think it's I think it's images.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's social media, I think it's I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's overall media. But then I was curious to know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's any of from parenting to coaching

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<v Speaker 1>to what all of the above? Where it's really what

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to think because you can just tell it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a difference between and they don't sports youth

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<v Speaker 1>sports today versus youth sports back in the day, where

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<v Speaker 1>again I know I'm a little bit younger, but generally

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<v Speaker 1>when we came up, man, it's it's just different. It's

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<v Speaker 1>completely different. What's tough too, is they don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>be critique, right, I don't like to be coached. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we used to welcome that. The only way you

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<v Speaker 1>got I didn't necessary. I wasn't all ears on dog custom,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you can't even hey, put your foot up?

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<v Speaker 1>What why you know? Put your opposite? And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>why it is? Hey, why tell me? Because I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to know. It's like, well, what's the big deal?

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<v Speaker 1>So what people questioning you when you gave them correct

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't necessarily question I just I got the I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a dad because I would have been different if it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not that I got the look. I

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<v Speaker 1>got the like yes, but it's still like, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>a future Hall of Famer. I know they're making a

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<v Speaker 1>comfort whatever, but you gotta you have a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>been there, done that. And I think whether it is

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's your status as an NFL player or just

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<v Speaker 1>someone but here who has played before. Here's the part

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<v Speaker 1>that threw them off too. I knew I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to a football camp, so I also want to dress

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<v Speaker 1>comfortably in case I had to get out there. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also I got look sideways a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look like a guy who played sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I look like. I um, some short sweatpants,

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt. I had, you know, my nine year

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<v Speaker 1>old free watch. You know I didn't look like the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL superstar. Yes, you know I got my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my necklace. I've been warning for years that I wear

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<v Speaker 1>it in my shirt. But it wasn't extravagant. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you a little bit like Steve like, yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were Oh I just kind of got that.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought she showed up looking like a lane. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I showed I showed up. She showed up with knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>and they and sometimes I don't want to hear who

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<v Speaker 1>actually I showed up in that fist fighting phone booth

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Hey, you never know. Sometimes you just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>pull up, pull up, because you can't fistfighting skinny jeans.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get your ass swooping them skinny jeans. But

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<v Speaker 1>not here, not this guy. Don't let me pull my

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<v Speaker 1>flip up brim down. That's when that's when you mean business. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>when I flip it around. As we know who we

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<v Speaker 1>got coming on the Cut to It podcast. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Buffet, a veteran NFL safety He played with four

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<v Speaker 1>teams during his tenure with the NFL. He's a three

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<v Speaker 1>time Pro Bowler and he's a member of the Black

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<v Speaker 1>College Football Hall of Fame, as he attended Howard University.

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Buffet on the Cut to It podcast, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure to have someone in studio. So hey, right

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<v Speaker 1>off the bat, we're gonna get into get our stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite color and why red um? And I would just say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, um, that bull you know that bulls he's red.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you? You would sacking, like you said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive guy anyway. So that's how we That's how mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was a cool last explanation. He's always been

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<v Speaker 1>one of those cool guys just playing against I never

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<v Speaker 1>really got the opportunity to see how cool he was.

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<v Speaker 1>That cool factor didn't come through. Then what are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hit? You cool guy trying to knock my

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. We'll get into that. I gotta moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, Hey, hobbies, you have picked up um and

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<v Speaker 1>retirement now man um sustainable hobbies not. Don't give me.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't it until we right now. It's peloton, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to bike or the tradmill the bike right

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<v Speaker 1>now it's pelotone. I don't know how long that's going. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna stick, but right now that's what it is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For how much I played for my pelotone. Oh it's

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<v Speaker 1>sticking exactly. We just got ours like two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it so far. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bike though. So I tapped into a six thirty group.

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<v Speaker 1>You did alive six thirty group. It was some other guys,

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<v Speaker 1>some retired guys, and we was getting on six thirty

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<v Speaker 1>out of fall back on that door like that, getting

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<v Speaker 1>up at six o'clock, being with time, like, nah, that

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<v Speaker 1>goes against the whole point, the whole point, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but that when your metabolism works throughout the Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just can't for how much riding you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are doing, like and being a peloton treadmill, you

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<v Speaker 1>having a I do get jealous sometimes when seeing y'all, Like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I get an hour, I'm over there ecstatic about my

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<v Speaker 1>little my little fold five miles. I mean, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you sitting on that peloton for that long time? Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you're not sitting pause, Um, I gotta get the butt pack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely pause definitely because we hate but now that sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there for forty five mental hour that that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a beast. That's a beast. But the treadmill, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>not I've never been a treadmill runner. I haven't either,

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<v Speaker 1>but I started. I like it. The trail man hurts

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<v Speaker 1>in what regards. I don't like running running, running on

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<v Speaker 1>that treadmill. With me running, I gotta I gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>an endpoint. Yeah, I gotta see where I'm going. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean with the treadmill was just but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same, just like Ryan, what's crazy is I

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<v Speaker 1>did so I did the peloton at an Indy and

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<v Speaker 1>when I was thinking about getting one the bike, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did the class and the class didn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I was kind of like, this is it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I did the peloton. But what I like

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<v Speaker 1>about the treadmill is HASH has the wood way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>give me so peloton, your ad can go here. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's a good product though, Definitely, it's a good product.

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<v Speaker 1>I like. I like I can work out by myself,

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<v Speaker 1>push myself. But yet I do not feel connected. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't feel like I'm by myself. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be connected with anybody. If you're up at six

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<v Speaker 1>am or seven pm, it's not this awkward like Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's dope because I did the Um you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>got the app, so I do. Uh. Also, I'll run

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<v Speaker 1>outside and I'll do the audio peltine and have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in your ear talking like yo, this's what we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is push it. Yeah I like that. So I like

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<v Speaker 1>that too. Yeah. Yeah. What's the best way to social distance?

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<v Speaker 1>Six ft apart? Or um? Loan? So wants some money?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh loan somebody some money, no question. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>get them, no question. They may not come back. You

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna worry about saying no question, no question. And

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<v Speaker 1>city your point, man, it's conversation app all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like give me that same energy that you get you

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<v Speaker 1>when you was asking for them more. Yeah. M that's

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<v Speaker 1>a backstage Joe on that one. We thought you jump

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<v Speaker 1>right on that all right. Um. You know, so my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter works a Chick fil A and she was like, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this guy that drives a nice car and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember where I know him from. And then she said,

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<v Speaker 1>you looked at her like, I know you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where I know you from. And so she

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<v Speaker 1>finally someone there said, oh, that's that's Antoine that. So

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<v Speaker 1>she was talking to me and I said, tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>I said with something. So she said and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's that less awkwardness of like yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty funny. So um, So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite item on Chick fil a? Because word

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<v Speaker 1>on the chicken streets that crested chicken? What annointed meal?

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<v Speaker 1>What you're getting, man, I'm right now, you're going up,

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<v Speaker 1>So I definitely right now, I'm I'm with spicy chicken

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<v Speaker 1>strips right now. What's the side fries? Okay? Drink drink

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<v Speaker 1>sprite Okay. I thought you might have switched it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a little on a palm or some of us

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<v Speaker 1>called the tiger woods. No, no, no, I'm sticking. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard the tiger never never heard of it. Start

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<v Speaker 1>instead of it being on a palmer, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>more of a more recent golf of the pen on

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<v Speaker 1>where you go. Some people call it a tiger the

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<v Speaker 1>first time and I've heard that. What did you hear

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<v Speaker 1>it from? I had that Soulfu restaurant so I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was just half and half the same thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same drink, it different golfer. I never heard same drink,

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<v Speaker 1>different golfer. I don't know about that. Oh no, I

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<v Speaker 1>just so I just made it up. That's how all

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<v Speaker 1>the palmer became on a palmer. It was made up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying I don't know if that made up.

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<v Speaker 1>Just gonna stick you hear you hear this without anybody stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>like like like the needle went off the record like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Mass I looked like right, and you said you start

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<v Speaker 1>to take You started taking this like damn. I love

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<v Speaker 1>how you. I love how you explain to us who

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<v Speaker 1>tiger Woods was right, like y'all looking like tiger Woods,

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<v Speaker 1>like he had a golfer like when you said tiger

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<v Speaker 1>Woods and you said, yeah, he's more current. First thing

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<v Speaker 1>he said was that ain't with his legs. Said you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't playing golf right now, so you you try to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of those that ain't gonna stick. Nah, al right,

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<v Speaker 1>well stuck somewhere. It ain't with this group. If we

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<v Speaker 1>go out to eat and we said, you give me

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<v Speaker 1>a tager Woods. It depends on where you at the

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna look at you. Here's what they're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Which what are you referring to? That's what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Depends on where you go. Yeah, all right, translation, No one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going down this road. We have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>break and the morning a thing. We gotta pay some bills.

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<v Speaker 1>us wherever listen to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah,

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for,

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<v Speaker 1>a brother, cut to a podcast dot Com. So, Antoine,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you from in the place you call your hometown?

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<v Speaker 1>Born in Savannah, Georgia, But um hometown is Newport News, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Grew up there so dad was in the military, moved

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<v Speaker 1>around a little bit, but Newport News was home. So

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in Newport News Virginia. You know, how did that,

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<v Speaker 1>How did that shape your perspective on the world. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was again being a military child. Um, when you

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<v Speaker 1>say military child, what a jury? What's the age range? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was in the military until I was probably fourteen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So so you were so long enough to it actually

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<v Speaker 1>shaped you because you know, so you hear somebody I'm from,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I was in the military, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he was like he got out when I was

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<v Speaker 1>four yea, yeah, yeah, so old enough to so old

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<v Speaker 1>enough you experienced a lot of different places. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. So Pops born in Savannah. From Savannah,

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<v Speaker 1>we moved to Germany. From Germany, we moved to Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>at four years old. So Mom and Pops they made

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<v Speaker 1>a decision that you know, instead of jumping from city

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<v Speaker 1>to city, state to state, family will stay put. Dad

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<v Speaker 1>would do the traveler. So again with that just understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for one, Dad, you know he gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>what he gotta do to protect, to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>fam So from there he had his chores back to

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<v Speaker 1>Germany to Egypt, um, you know, Saudi Arabia. So again

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<v Speaker 1>me being the youngest of two brother off at school.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just me and mom. Duke's at the house. So

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<v Speaker 1>now it's like at a young age, I'm technically the

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<v Speaker 1>man of the house, you know what I mean. So um.

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<v Speaker 1>But but being in the um, living on the base,

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<v Speaker 1>you see white, you see black, she Asian, you see

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<v Speaker 1>all type of life you know, um, and then really

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has something in common. It's military life. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going to school other kids. Uh, mom and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>um gone. So we had that in common. But then

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<v Speaker 1>living moving off base, able to see more so off

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<v Speaker 1>the um, urban life, urban lifestyle. Um. You know, middle school, um,

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<v Speaker 1>not black, high school not black. Now were starting the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to experience what you know, life in the

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<v Speaker 1>urban neighborhood is all about, you know, friends going down

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<v Speaker 1>different different paths. So for me, Man just opened my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes of just moving not even ten miles down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a huge difference, you know what I mean. Just

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<v Speaker 1>life's throwing off on the base. My family were in

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<v Speaker 1>the middlitary rry, but no one necessarily lived on base, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I had uncle served as a storm he was Navy,

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<v Speaker 1>but family didn't live on base, you know, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the Navy. They were gone so much. Um, living on

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<v Speaker 1>living on a ship family is not living on the base.

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<v Speaker 1>They just didn't. As I got older and then I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing I started doing football camps, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>to get the pleasure of going on all these different bases,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really saw some things that advantages of kids

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<v Speaker 1>going all these different countries and experiencing that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also saw the disadvantages the same way you could be sheltered,

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<v Speaker 1>the same way that we talked about sheltered of someone

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<v Speaker 1>living in a bubble of of of affluence, where there's

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<v Speaker 1>someone that's living in a military bubble that they only

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<v Speaker 1>interact with kids that a military and so that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's a good thing and could be

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<v Speaker 1>a bad thing because in that bad thing, they also

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<v Speaker 1>lack resources, right even though they're serving our government. The

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<v Speaker 1>government only gives you so much. You only you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every every family deals with it differently. There's all the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the stuff that goes on in that.

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<v Speaker 1>And man, I really learned a lot and really saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that um to the point I did that

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<v Speaker 1>for about seven or eight years, and what the cool

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<v Speaker 1>part was is I was able to serve maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>this military base and then maybe five six years in

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<v Speaker 1>a kid that was at one military base that the

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<v Speaker 1>other one. It was cool, but it was also you

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<v Speaker 1>could see I think I met him in the States

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<v Speaker 1>and then next time I saw him six seven years

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<v Speaker 1>later it was at Camp Humphreys and so Korea. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was cool to experience so Korea, but

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<v Speaker 1>for a black kid coming from one area to So Korean,

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<v Speaker 1>like his ability to identifying is only on the military

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<v Speaker 1>because you go off the military different different, whole different

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<v Speaker 1>one exactly. And then like you said, like a military base,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just that's a world all in it. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole community, whole community. So when I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little different where we did have to

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<v Speaker 1>go off the base to go to school. But now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you got your elementary school. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>brag has multiple schools. I mean it's literally for Brad

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<v Speaker 1>has I believe to high schools or three high school

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 1>football teams? Yeah, yeah, movie theater. So like you really

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to leave fast food, commissary. Yeah, everything that

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you need. So again, like you said, like just being

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<v Speaker 1>able to really identify, like you know, like what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is off this base. But it was I opened, man,

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<v Speaker 1>But I appreciate it. Why why was it eye opening? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So for me again with my you know, my dad

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<v Speaker 1>being gone traveling, my brother he's off in school, so

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>me and my mom. But then just you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>able to go to a um A youth center, right,

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>going to the youth center, and it's your the people

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>that you see every day. Right, So you're playing ball,

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you on um A youth football team or youth baseball team.

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>But again, everybody's dealing with the same situations, right, Like

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:28.479
<v Speaker 1>we both either one of our parents in the military,

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>were all dealing with the same instance. So but you

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>can move off that base. Now you're dealing with some

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>real stuff, some real stuff, you know what I mean,

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, single, single parent, household, on food stamps.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Now it's life is coming at you're a little different way.

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Now you're a young teenager. It's like, okay, it's a

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>different And then again, like I said, it was just

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>tim out down the road we were on and not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that when you stay on this military base, like

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>everything is peaches and cream, it's not that you still

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>got people like that struggling that struggling and living life

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>because you're in the military, Like you're not getting no,

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>no big money, you know what I'm saying, unless you

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>got high you have you high ranking, so you're still struggling.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>But then it's just different dynamics when you when you

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>get off that base man, when you see like, you know,

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>real life, real life struggle. So playing other sports, just

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>growing up, you know, did you play any other sports? Yeah?

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>So growing up started off it was football, baseball, basketball, everything,

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Big three, Big three and then um them them curve balls,

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and the fast pitch started coming a little too fast

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>for me, so that baseball went to the wayside and

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>it was just a basketball and football up all through

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>high school. What position in basketball? Run the show, run

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the show, point guard? I don't know, yeah, right, Like

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I asked the question. But in your area, man,

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.719
<v Speaker 1>there's so many, so many lettens have come out of there.

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>You got all Noverson and you got your your I

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>mean in football, your Michael Vicks, Ronald Curry, you know

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>who who was able to do both? I mean, were

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you did you interact with any of any of those

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>guys where there was they were older than me? So

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>m a he was playing with my older when my

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>oldest brother was playing. But obviously yeah, very very you know,

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>seeing those guys being able to make it um through

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>similar situations and circumstances, it was like it's it's it's

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a possibility. Um. So you know seeing um, you know,

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Mike vick Ron Curry and those guys. Man, it was

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>just um again, like it was just like a dream

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>come true just to even see them make it. It's like, okay,

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>they made that, we made you know what I mean?

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I know I can't So that was that was dope.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Now was adult? How would you categorize Newport News as

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>far as um with everything going on in the world

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>today as an adult? You know you live here currently

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte, but just how how would you really summarize

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>unfiltered what Newport News is as a you know, as

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>a man with with with children, with being a father,

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>being a husband. You know, for me and I and

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I say all the time, like that's what Newport News is,

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what groomed me and made me a person I am today,

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just the way I look at things, the best of

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>both worlds, you know what I mean. So it's the best.

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>What's the best you say, the best of both worlds,

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the best of what the world world. For me, the

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>best of both worlds is that, um, I'm able to

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>see the struggle, but I'm also able to see somebody

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that's doing well off for himself. Right. So now it's

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>like as a man, it's like, you know, not necessary

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you can pick and choose because some situations it's like

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you you walk into a bad situation, right, but you know,

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>some luck, some work, some grinding, you can get to

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that to where you want to get right. But then

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I also see the struggle right where you you never

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>take for granted. You know you're waking up them too.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, your two ft hitting that floor in the morning.

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You never take for granted. Um. As a father, having

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>guys I went to school with having to to bury

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>their their sons, that's something that I don't appreciate. And

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the fact of of Newport News at

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the moment in time, just the climate of you know, um,

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>do you're killing each other? You know what I mean?

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a tough pill to swallow. Um. But

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>then again, you know, you go back and you're like,

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>this is home. One of the cool things you know,

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>just reading your story, you know, going from military, you know,

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>not getting recruited coming out of high school, when did

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you first remember this underdog mentality in which really made

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you become a walk on? Um at how man? I

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>think that under dog mentality has always been there. Um,

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I embraced it. I embraced it probably like

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>my junior senior year in high school. Why why why

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>are you able to pinpoint that time? Because it feels

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>though you know, you had you know, youth league sports

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, okay, you know everybody got kind of

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>got that dog. But my junior year, specifically on the

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>football field, I felas though, um that was small. You

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>know I was. I was five ten a buck sixty

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>five seventy. I think that's a great height paddle playing

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>middle linebackery for some other folks, I don't care what

0:32:52.240 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>position five playing linebacker again, I take that is it

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>shoes on or off? But probably you round up on

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that ross and hospital. I was probably about a good

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>five nine. I still take that. That's a good night

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>still where you got that. Yeah, but that's a good height.

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But um, I think it was around this time where

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I felt as though I was I was holding my

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>own and you weren't getting a look. I wasn't getting that. No,

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>not even the looks, but just the respect. So what's

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>what's what's respect to you? Um, I'm setting you up,

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>but go ahead, now, that's all go up. But it's

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a good conversation, not setting you up like something bad.

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Setting you up is as good because you gave me

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>a look. I'll say this when I say setting up

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast now sooner be forty two year old. Uh, Steve Smithie,

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not the football. I'm setting you up as great

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to know who you are because I'm going against you.

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I never worry to concern myself of the physicality going

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>against you. For me, it was always keeping my eyes

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>on where is the antoine because I know when I

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>need that big play, I can't beat the corner. But

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>his ass is gonna be over the top somewhere that's

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna stop me from getting that play that I know

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I can get. Being a competitor, right, So we were competitors, right.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>So if you out there competing and you know you're

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>competing at the top level, at some point and and

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe and maybe not to even justify, but at some

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>point you want to hear somebody say, Okay, he's a

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>dog and you can know it in your heart, you

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>can know it in your mind, but I think every

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>competitor wants to hear the validation of it. Mhm. I

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>think so, you know, um, And at that point I

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>felt as though I was bawling, like you know when

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to a lineback. I don't think you

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>could have down a battle. Yeah, I mean even though

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I was smaller stature, um, And at that time, you know,

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was just that. And then just

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>go to my senior Yeah, all Star game, not originally

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>picked on the All Star Game, but then eventually um

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 1>getting picked and you know, doing my thing. And then

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>from there it was you know, not being recruited, um,

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>damn yell walk on the Howard University. So all of that.

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was just one of them things. But

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>then at that time, that's when I just embraced it.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think it was compounded by? It

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>sounds like what you were saying wasn't compounded by being

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>overlooked almost yeah, I mean, of course, or being overlooked

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>um again not getting those offers. But then again, you know,

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>we all have our story and that was just that

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>was meant for me. That was meant for me. So

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>what ultimately led you to to Howard? Why why did

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you select Howard University? Because it was a walk on

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't necessarily like uh and I'm assuming it's

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily like like a preferred or or like yeah

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. So UM, because they didn't they didn't necessarily

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>go oh man, That's why. That's why I just knew

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.760
<v Speaker 1>this story was for me. UM, I was getting recruited

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 1>UM a boy Norfolk State, another hbc U in Virginia.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>UM and at the time, the defensive coordinator was recruiting

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>me and him and my head football coach at in

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.919
<v Speaker 1>my high school, they had a previous stint at Howard

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>University doing the same coaching staff. So at Howard the

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>head coaching job became available. UM coach Ray Petty, he

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>was a coach that was recruiting me at Norfolk State,

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>got the head coaching job. He came to my high

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>school and got my head coach. And I asked him

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>when he beat up offensive coordinator Howard. This was my

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>senior year. UM. He was recruiting at Norfolk State and UM,

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>my head coach said, look, this guy can play ball,

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.399
<v Speaker 1>you know. Um. He was already recruited me at North State.

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>So he said, look, um, I don't have any money. Um.

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>He was kind of late in the process. He was like,

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>but if you come do what you need to do

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>in class, you want to feel um that second year,

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>we can we can give you some money. So went

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>on my visit and it was wrapped. After that, you know,

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>got on campus. It was like March. Um, the weather

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>was good in d C. And I walked on the

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>yard in the ratio was like seventeen and one. When

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you let me educate our lessens when you say when

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>you walked on the when you walked on the yard

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and the ratio, what do you what do you? What

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>do you? Uh? Female to male? Okay, So your ability

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to strike out was lessened in favor because I knew

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>what you meant if you just but even your college kid,

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm seventeen seventeen, you're still growing. I stopped. So you're

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>still growing. Yeah, you're linebacker, Yeah, switching the safety seven. Hey,

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the first one. So the first one you go up to,

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, seventeen and one, the first one, he said, linebacker, boy,

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you too, So so with that, with that, and then

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>just the weekend and then just giving the history, the strong,

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>rich history of how university man. And you know, it

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>was no that Sunday I called my mom and my

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>dad when I look, we don't have to you know,

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 1>we got to get it from somewhere this first year. UM,

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was like I said this, it

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>was made for me. It was supposed to work out

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the way he did. What was your experience at an

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>hbc U And then why do you continue to be

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>such an advocate for HBCU and what is HBCU? I know,

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know until nineteen years ago when I

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>came from California via Utah to North Carolina historically black

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>colleges and university h b c U s and then

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>primarily on what side of the country East coast, South Southeast.

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Best four years of my life, best four years of

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>my life. And then you know, when I'm talking to

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>young men and women that's thinking about the h b

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>c U, UM, I tell them it was one time

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in my life as a young black man, I was

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>a majority. You know what I'm saying, growing up you're

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the minority. But nine times out attending the room that

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you walk in, you're gonna be the minority, right, so

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you know they're gonna look at you a little different

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the case may be. But this one time

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in my life. For four years, I walked on campus,

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I walked in every classroom and I was the majority,

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.879
<v Speaker 1>and I was looking at so a lot of times

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you grow up depending on you know, the errors you

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>grow up. And it's like, you know, if you can't

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.959
<v Speaker 1>run the throwball, you ain't got a wicked jump shot

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, Like it's not gonna be too

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>many things you're gonna be successful in. But then you're

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>walking into these rooms and you got expiring doctors, architects,

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Dennis Like that was real. That was real. And then

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>coming from where I was coming from, I'm like wow,

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I I probably I've probably grown up

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>property and like a black dinnist. And then you know,

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>watching the COLLEGEE Show, you know you've seen you know,

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a black doctor, but you know, walking campus and then

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you got Frederick Douglass, you got Alain Locked, you got

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Charles Drew on these buildings like these are black powerful

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you know black men and women that has like strong, um,

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>they're no longer a figment. They're not that's not of

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>your imagination, or they're no longer just ay a project

0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>in February, a black and white picture you know, of

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of a man in the Afro. Yeah. Right now they're

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 1>on top of buildings and they actually mean something versus

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>like man I wonder. Yeah, so you know factuary black history. Hey, look,

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do this book report find you know, find

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you somebody you discover. But now black history extends more

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>than one mind exactly. So now you know you're walking

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>on this campus each and every day and you've got

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:29.800
<v Speaker 1>people feeding that stuff into your into your soul. I

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>think it's about that time. Just take a little breatherd

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>do it. Do it. Let's get down to do it. Hey, Gerard,

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>why did you get that T shirt? You mean this thing?

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:44.760
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<v Speaker 1>our guys at seven or four shot. But yeah, you

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 1>can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe to

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcasts. When you're playing against

0:41:56.040 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>guys you really get I don't know, I think false

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>sense of who they are. Right, you have a podcast

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you played, and your podcast was with a teammate of mine. UM,

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and so I heard some I heard a conversation you

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>guys had and it was unique, but also it was

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>also originally I was kind of like what and then

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>also just looking back at myself because actually, UM, A

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago, a gentleman asked me, asked me

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a question. He was like, man, I just want to

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>ask you something. And he shot the question and I

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and I and I always say you want the love

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of truth. He was like, man, I want the truth.

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, well, okay, since you offered it,

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 1>tell me the lives. Like because he said, you know

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>what made you different or unique? I said the lives

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>or you know. Um, I don't remember. I just said

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>something stupid or something. He was like, all right, we

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>got down alway. He said the truth, and the truth

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>was I didn't want to create I didn't I did

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>not want to create friendships when I played. I was

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>not interested in being your friend. I wasn't interested in

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>what you what you felt about me. Teammate or opponent

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:18.320
<v Speaker 1>mainly opponent teammate depending on the day, but mainly opponent.

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 1>And sitting back, I look at it. I kind of

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>chuckle because the way I played that opponent a lot

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of times that rubbed opponents the wrong way. But what's

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 1>the funniest part is if we're opponent, Paul's am I

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>supposed to rub you? Right? You're supposed to be best

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>friends and I And that's and that's always, and that's

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>why I can I like this conversation where we're going

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>is when I asked you about hearing respect, you said

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 1>you you would love to hear your opponent give your respect.

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what I love. I didn't want to hear

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you respect me. I wanted to know that your body

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>told me you respect him. I respect that too, because

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times, you know, a guy can respect you,

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>but he gonna he gonna do and say whatever, try

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>to negate that of what he truly feels. You know

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, just just at a spike out of

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>hate or whatever the case may be. So I can

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely respect that too. And I agree with you, and

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you because, um, you probably don't have

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to say it. But like you said, when we step in,

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.439
<v Speaker 1>saw those white lines, like you knew forty one was warm.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely what I'm saying and you knew like that. I

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>remember I remember playing against you with Torri when Toys

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>with y'all, and this was I had came back after

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>my back. You was in Baltimore and it was like

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:53.800
<v Speaker 1>we had to end up and and um, I was

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>playing well, but we just gave up too many places.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>And I remember, and I remember we looked at I

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it was like a hell. Mary was trying

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 1>to get in those an end zone and we both

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>jumped and he didn't want to let me get out

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>and want to let him get it. And he said,

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I remember you said something to me, but I heard

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the respect, but it was also like you know, hey,

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 1>you know because he had played against me so much

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of guys don't realize. For me, respect

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>is we're gonna play and we're gonna hit each other,

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna be clean. If I I only hear

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>people clean, If I hit you dirty, what your's random,

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>then that means I had no respect for you. But

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>how I earned respect was if I saw dB and

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>it was on the sideline, I ain't stepping out of bounds.

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a story. This is the story I had visit

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You're Steve Smith. Story. This story I had because I

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>mean I think I got a lot of questions about

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, who's the toughest receiver that you played? Like

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, um and obviously you know what I mean,

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:10.919
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows, like, like you said, the way you played

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the game right, So that was like, did you have it?

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever have any run ins with him? I'm like, nah,

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think we we both respected each other

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and we both played the game the way the game

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be playing. It was hard, you hit,

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it was it was nothing dirty but whatever. But I'm like,

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I have heard him talk disrespectful to some of my

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>teammates really, so so it was it was it was

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>this is great because we both are at that age

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>We're dumb playing. We ain't gonna go you ain't gonna

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>go get no clie. Somebody tell me go get my clicks. I'thing,

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Like for what, I need to use my ladder to

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>get up on my bookcase to get those clicks, right,

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>And so they say, disrespectful, bro, what am I supposed

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 1>to do? We are hit, didn't need each other took

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>our head with the story, So it was who was

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>playing it? Indie, Um, I'm trying to think who who

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the dB was? See that could tell you a lot too.

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you a lot. I'm trying to think who

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the dB was. I'm not gonna say his name, but

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>but it was one of them stories. You would run

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline and he eased up, the defender eased

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>up and you and he's he's up. You're still in

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 1>play because you ain't catching. That's a few guys that

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>have called me out of eased up on. Mark Bringer

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>called me one time with the with the Panthers la

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Fan was blocking and heat. I thought he was gonna

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>get me, didn't man? Mark hit me so hard. So

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that sideline is tricky. On the sideline, it's like, you know,

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the week before you could have had a receiver on

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the sideline and running and stepped out of bound. Don't

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>do that. You know he stepped out of bound, but

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 1>it could be at one time where you ease up

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>what you know you're not supposed to do inside the

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>lines and he hit him and the corner what's that?

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>You know? Like it was got a got about his

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>pass right. So I remember you getting up and was

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>like you know, ass boy, like you know, just like

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.280
<v Speaker 1>talking bad to him. So I'm you know, obviously I'm running.

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm running to the ball, right, So I'm running to

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball. So the defender gets up and just start

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 1>running away. I'm like, don't you don't you wait? So Smithy,

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 1>he sed Smithy, No, Smithy, Okay, you fed him, but

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you thought he was going out of bound. I was

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 1>going out of he know. That's what I'm saying. That

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the defender, that's his problem, right right, So Smithie thought

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 1>of him. He failed. Smithy called a little last boy.

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:02.919
<v Speaker 1>And then he off and he runs off. And while

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't like pitching this though, like I'm the ball

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm seeing it, and I see my man get

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:09.919
<v Speaker 1>up and run off, and Smitty like talking to him bad.

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>So I grabbed him, like, yo, don't you ever don't

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you ever run away? Wanted somebody talking bad like that.

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at Smitty, I'm like, look, man, you ain't

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk to my young boy like that? Why not?

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>You can't I talk to your young boys. You can't.

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:27.439
<v Speaker 1>But for me, you gotta have it bad. You gotta

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>have his bad all time. I'm liking this because the

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>best stepped in. But ultimately, but I'm let stepping in

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>why why are you stepping in my guy? That's my guy,

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that's your guy, the guy that just got the guy

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that scampered away. But hold on, I'm not here. Hey

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 1>he scampered. But from that right there, I'm like, bro,

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.479
<v Speaker 1>like we we can't have that. Yeah, no, we can't

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>have that. And so but look I respected it, respected

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the little as you just had to have you got

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to have in But what did I say exactly? It was?

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>It was to the tune like like you little ass boy,

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you better you know, I mean something like you better

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>come you know something than that. You know, could probably

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>a little stuff something room some some something by weight room,

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was. It was the fact that

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:26.880
<v Speaker 1>because for me, it's like you hear a lot of

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff like why the game is gone, a lot of

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff where you your laugh, some of us funny, some

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of us funny, like you know. So again that was

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the stories where after the game we got

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a dub and you know, you sit in the locker

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 1>room and you watching the film and you see that

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 1>you see the play, and I'm like, Paul's that And

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you know I tell the young boy like man, don't

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>let I don't ever let this happen again like it,

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's a lesson learned, like don't ease up on

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the sideline, like you know when a grown man talk.

0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>We all grown man out here, and you don't let

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:00.319
<v Speaker 1>them grown man talk to you like that. But then

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, it's like sounds like something I would

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>have did. He had to have it, That's what I

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted because there are so many stories out there that's

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Steves that Steves that you know, blah

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. But at the end of the day, I

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:22.320
<v Speaker 1>played hard every play, but I also put a target

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>on my back. I couldn't have You couldn't have. Yes,

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't jog. I couldn't jog through Like he come

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:33.800
<v Speaker 1>down before they want to come down and he he

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>lines up and he becomes the linebacker. Bro. They reidentify

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.479
<v Speaker 1>that Mike and they slide to the right. That means

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that now that that dime or or nickel or safety

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>now is run support and I'm in a tight split.

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>That's my guy, and we won't lock eyes. You know.

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 1>He looked at me and I ain't gonna look away.

0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I ain't looking away, like I hope you don't see

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 1>y'all looking at him like, I see you, you see me?

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>How are we gonna do this? I'm not gonna go

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>low because one I respect him. Two that's illegal right in.

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Three I don't want to if the shoes on another

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:21.799
<v Speaker 1>foot and he has an opportunity to hit me low.

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:24.959
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm over here playing hot potato, hot feet.

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well we've been moving this ball down the field.

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>We're about to wrap up this conversation or last segment

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 1>is the deep three last three questions, Smithy, go ahead

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and give him the first one. How do you want

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to impact the world? Man um? Funny you say that

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 1>playing this game? You know you played it a long time.

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And if if I step up, if I leave this

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 1>world and they say, you know A B was a

0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>great football player, then I failed, you know, so, um

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>my foundation, but the family foundation, man just impact. If

0:52:57.200 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I can impact one life, UM, I think I've I've

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.879
<v Speaker 1>done a good job, you know, but obviously being able

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to impact as many lives as as we can with

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the platform, man um. No, young men and young women

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>just try to push them to be the best person

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that they can be and get them getting them out

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of their comfort zone. Well, I can tell you you've

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 1>already done that then, because I've seen some of the

0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff your foundation has done. You're doing those campus tours,

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>You're you're allowing kids to see, uh, campuses that they

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 1>may or may not have been able to see. So

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>just being able it's not a daydream anymore. So even

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>just giving that opportunity, UM is gonna pay dividends. So Man,

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>if that's it, then then mission accomplished. But I know

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you're gonna keep pushing through to So how

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>would you describe the person you've become? Man, that's a

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:56.359
<v Speaker 1>great question. We do that here. Yeah, great questions. How

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:05.840
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna he's gonna take credit for my question? Sorry,

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I become more the biggest thing, like more understanding, right,

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, Um, I think marriage does that. I think

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 1>living does that. Um, having kids, having kids definitely does that.

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>But I was so black and white for a long time.

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:27.840
<v Speaker 1>But obviously now it's like, you know, I mean, my

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>kids asked me questions. Now I'm just like I don't like,

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, it really have had me thinking. So I

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>think the biggest thing for me, like I'm more understanding student,

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning, I'm learning about myself, you know, I'm still learning,

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you know about you know, just just just life my family.

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>So I would say, um, just a student and just

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, more understanding. I don't say that the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>two things right now that I kind of see myself. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So being from Newport News, being one of many young

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<v Speaker 1>men coming from from out there, if you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a billboard, hmm, what would you put on that billboard

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<v Speaker 1>to say to anybody in Newport News? Dream big? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I think again you've got so many again young young

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<v Speaker 1>men and young women. They feelers that they feel as

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<v Speaker 1>though that's all it is is Newport News what they

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<v Speaker 1>see every day. Um, and they limit themselves so much. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't dream. It's like they're living their day to

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<v Speaker 1>day life like you know, I'm I'm fourteen and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the man of my house, like I gotta go to work, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do whatever I can do to bring money

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<v Speaker 1>into the household. They're not giving that opportunity to really dream.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what my my billboard would be

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<v Speaker 1>would be, you know, dream big. And it's been on

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<v Speaker 1>in the privilege I have you on man, I appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your Yeah, that was good man. I'm not as

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<v Speaker 1>scary as they say. I respect you. I respect you,

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>always respected you may always always um always knew you know,

0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 1>we've had enough guys on here, defensive guys, I every defense,

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<v Speaker 1>every defender I went against, whether they believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I always respect you. Now the level of respect, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna vary throughout the game, but always new and always

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<v Speaker 1>going against you. Um. I never ever wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where either one of us got hurt, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with it being in my hands right and but always knew, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know dB wherever it was, you know I could

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<v Speaker 1>do that words for the one that you know one, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta gotta pay attention to him because here creep

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<v Speaker 1>up and get a pick, and then I got chase him, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm mad I got chasing. You can't paid

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<v Speaker 1>for that part, now, you know. And then and then

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<v Speaker 1>people looking at this opportunity, can they can hit me

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<v Speaker 1>over so you know I'm over there over there, focus right,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian ergla could caught me like that one time, called

0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you slipping man through it. They threw a pick and

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<v Speaker 1>I was running, I was locked in and I had

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<v Speaker 1>the arm boom, I said Damn, He's like, I got

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<v Speaker 1>you so, but she was one of those guys. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. It's it's it's mutual man, mutual respect. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, going against you, Man, I just you

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<v Speaker 1>knew how to gotta be a one that day. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And you know, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>it is in the league. Every week it's there. Every

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:55.280
<v Speaker 1>team gonna have that one. Yeah, but but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just just being able, you know, to go up against

0:57:58.280 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you just know you had that dog in you. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Always respect your game, man, regardless what everybody else to

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