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Speaker 3: Do you like that he was a fan? No?
Speaker 2: I mean he'd taken the day off. What's kind of stressful,
Speaker 2: Like that's a huge pressure.
Speaker 3: He worked in TV, he worked, people died that day.
Speaker 4: I'm a savage.
Speaker 2: Are you bored of modern dating? Meeting the same people
Speaker 2: from the same apps in the same bar You've only
Speaker 2: chosen because it's close to your house and you can
Speaker 2: make your usual quick getaway. It's time to change the
Speaker 2: narrative on how we find love. It's time to start
Speaker 2: looking for love in all the wrong places. I'm going
Speaker 2: on a wild dating adventure, only picking people who were
Speaker 2: the total opposite of my type. And after twenty eight
Speaker 2: of these dates in two months, will I find that
Speaker 2: special someone? Or Well, this experiment proved that I should
Speaker 2: just give up on dating altogether. It's time to find out.
Speaker 2: I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later. Okay,
Speaker 2: So this week, Dan, I went on a date with
Speaker 2: someone called Harry who lived in Nottingham. This is when
Speaker 2: I was on tour a few weeks ago, a.
Speaker 1: Midland's boy exactly the milf a WMC West Midland.
Speaker 3: Sele.
Speaker 2: Well, that's you know, one step closer to me going
Speaker 2: on a date.
Speaker 3: With you really sharing me.
Speaker 2: Now, we went to like a mini golf that was
Speaker 2: sex themed, which was reallychic. Actually like I liked it.
Speaker 2: There was like loads of dildos on the floor.
Speaker 3: And is that not a drugsposition? Crazy golf and sex.
Speaker 1: I can't think of an environment that's least sexual than
Speaker 1: crazy golf.
Speaker 2: I actually loved it.
Speaker 3: But did it turn you on? No?
Speaker 2: But I would have been turned on if I was
Speaker 2: there was you know, someone that I wanted to find, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, I can actually say that like I think
Speaker 1: sometimes that anal sex experience is trying to knock a
Speaker 1: ball through a windmill to try and get it into
Speaker 1: a tiny hole.
Speaker 2: That would have you would have felt really seen. I
Speaker 2: think at this space I would have felt really represented.
Speaker 3: I want to go because I'm sick of feeling invisible.
Speaker 2: Yes exactly.
Speaker 1: If it means I have to step into a sex themed,
Speaker 1: crazy golf environment to be seen, I'm willing.
Speaker 2: You would have felt really understood. I think especially by
Speaker 2: the room that was just like it's just like there
Speaker 2: was a room that was like blood everywhere. It was
Speaker 2: like a butcher's Wow, Like, what I do you know?
Speaker 2: Two people on Friday nights? This is like a sweety
Speaker 2: tod's theme?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: I think that's a leg? That's a human leg? Wait?
Speaker 3: How is that sexual?
Speaker 2: I guess like murder.
Speaker 1: Killing this pussy exactly murdered this bussy. Daddy murdered this
Speaker 1: bussy murder sex. Wait, was that that's a that's a
Speaker 1: Shakespeare quote?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was Shakespeare.
Speaker 1: Yeah a fellow mmm now murderous dispussy Yeah?
Speaker 3: Got the bar? Wait? Yeah, I mean the different rooms
Speaker 3: and the different themes.
Speaker 2: Oh, there was like loads. There was like one that
Speaker 2: was like cocaine themed, which was just like, you know.
Speaker 3: Random, Wait, how is a cocaine themed?
Speaker 2: Did you get loads of coke like bags? And then
Speaker 2: there was like a big white ic thing like the
Speaker 2: Titanic thing?
Speaker 3: But are people banging after doing as a coke? I
Speaker 3: don't know if coke really helps me out.
Speaker 2: People weren't fucking there, Dan, this is mad. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: just for someone listening, there is a big vagina hole okay.
Speaker 2: Oh oh look, oh look at my god. That's I
Speaker 2: just got a hole in one in the pussy. Let
Speaker 2: it be known.
Speaker 5: I don't think I never got a hold in one
Speaker 5: of the It was.
Speaker 2: Me and this man, and then the only other people
Speaker 2: there were these four old women from Nottingham who were
Speaker 2: like chain smokers. They gave me some of their drink,
Speaker 2: which I probably shouldn't have had on reflection, because I
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been sharing germs with people like on my tour.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, you've.
Speaker 4: Got both standard. I know, I'm really nervous. They look
Speaker 4: really good. What is that name?
Speaker 2: And let me say that I've.
Speaker 4: Got that's so nice. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: It was such a weird combination. It was like some
Speaker 2: kind of like cherry vodka with coke. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, this is amazing. I'm going
Speaker 2: to start drinking this all the time, obviously lying because
Speaker 2: I just wanted these women to hang out of me
Speaker 2: because it's quite bored on this day.
Speaker 3: Right, that might be my new drink.
Speaker 2: You know. That's really nice, well, so simple and everywhere
Speaker 2: has those ingredients that every part has that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wish you're on a date with the
Speaker 3: women more than the guy at this point.
Speaker 2: I just I just feel in a lot of dating
Speaker 2: situations if I'm on a date and I bump into
Speaker 2: like a female friend or like even a fan, I
Speaker 2: usually would rather be with that woman than with the
Speaker 2: man that I'm with.
Speaker 1: You know, there's always that woman who's like in the
Speaker 1: bar and she's got like proxyblonte and she's wearing like
Speaker 1: some kind of animal print. She's got way too much
Speaker 1: mascara on. Like that's actually who I want to grow
Speaker 1: up and be. Yeah, like if I can have exactly.
Speaker 2: And it's like those are the women that, like when
Speaker 2: you're on a really bad date, you get talking to
Speaker 2: one of them and then you're like, save me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want the confidence of like a stepmom
Speaker 3: and Paul.
Speaker 2: I have never been on an activity date before this,
Speaker 2: I'll be honest.
Speaker 3: But what defines it.
Speaker 2: Well, it means not just going for a drink, like
Speaker 2: something that's like activity based. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: how better I could explain it or articulate, and.
Speaker 3: I guess you could probably do a better job.
Speaker 2: Than activity, like an activity based date.
Speaker 3: Activity from the Latin word the fact.
Speaker 2: What you said earlier, like rock climbing for a hike.
Speaker 3: What about a gallery?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an activity?
Speaker 3: So are we talking more about like sports leaning.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're talking a gallery.
Speaker 3: Never been to a gallery on a date?
Speaker 2: No, I've been to a gallery with a boyfriend, but
Speaker 2: I've never been on a date to a gallery. I
Speaker 2: fucking hate.
Speaker 3: Galleries people, No one likes galleries.
Speaker 2: So why would I want to go on a date
Speaker 2: to a gallery.
Speaker 3: To get fingered by a money I've never.
Speaker 2: Had sex in the gallery. Wow, No, I know, and
Speaker 2: I've always outside.
Speaker 3: What's that? Oh my god, they've all got pitchforks. I
Speaker 3: gonna got fire and pitchforks. Get quick, get out. She's
Speaker 3: never had sex in a gallery. That's why Lisa smiling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she knows she's sucking. And Grace Campbell hasn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Smug bitch, Such a smug bitch.
Speaker 3: Honestly though, is it even good? No?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's good.
Speaker 3: Tiny good.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's good. But she's smiling, and she's
Speaker 2: looking at us all.
Speaker 3: Sorry, this stamp on the wall.
Speaker 2: I know it's so far.
Speaker 3: I'm okay.
Speaker 2: She just looks very, very full of herself.
Speaker 3: Just looks full of gas. That's a smirk to do
Speaker 3: before you find.
Speaker 2: She's got the ships.
Speaker 1: If you want to make me sweat on a day,
Speaker 1: I'm out. I ain't rock climbing. I ain't like, I ain't.
Speaker 2: No, And also that's just very active to me if
Speaker 2: you want to do that on a day. My parents,
Speaker 2: so we go swimming at the lido like no where
Speaker 2: we live, and there's a sauna and my dad was
Speaker 2: once in the sauna at seven in the morning and
Speaker 2: there was a couple on a first day in the
Speaker 2: sauna at seven in the morning. They had just gone
Speaker 2: for a freezing called swim in the winter, and then
Speaker 2: they were in a sauna on the first ay at
Speaker 2: seven in the morning and my dad interrogated it so
Speaker 2: much because he was like so confused by it. Then
Speaker 2: the girl messaged me on Instagram and was like, your
Speaker 2: dad really like made this situation very uncomfortable. Earlier I
Speaker 2: was like, don't blame my dad for acting day at
Speaker 2: seven in and my dad was wanking.
Speaker 3: Off watching you.
Speaker 1: I was outside watching the Men in the woods fucking
Speaker 1: with my dog.
Speaker 3: It's a family business.
Speaker 2: This guy wasn't like he was nice, you know, he
Speaker 2: was a really sweet guy and he actually was a fan.
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, at this point when.
Speaker 5: I don't need like discovered who you were like a
Speaker 5: couple of months ago, right, So.
Speaker 2: You know I am love that. It's the first time
Speaker 2: that someone's admitted it. So you're coming to my show?
Speaker 5: There were tickets, but there are reason I didn't. So
Speaker 5: I'm meant to be working today, right, okay, and I'm
Speaker 5: actually working down south.
Speaker 3: So I found out bout this. I asked my bus.
Speaker 5: I was like, can I just work from home?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wow, wow, So your bunking work for this?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd taken the day off work so that he
Speaker 2: could come and do this.
Speaker 3: That that's too much.
Speaker 2: Well, say, for example, and you say, if I got
Speaker 2: asked to go on a date with, like, you know,
Speaker 2: someone I was obsessed with me, I would take the
Speaker 2: day of work to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I tell you what I wouldn't be doing
Speaker 1: traveling to note to go to a crazy golf you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I wouldn't be doing that, no
Speaker 1: matter what theema cre the golf was. I'm just never
Speaker 1: you want to firstly, you want to take me on
Speaker 1: a date, and it's any kind of sport related thing,
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 2: Says golf for sport is ridiculous. Then what is it activity?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: I saw recently this video where they've got like pillow
Speaker 1: fighting championships. Have you seen that, Like people in the
Speaker 1: wrestling ring with pillows, like bashing each other out.
Speaker 2: But that's quite active crazy.
Speaker 3: Golf is not very active mentally it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this was a very mentally simulating hour.
Speaker 3: Of that's just the co crew.
Speaker 2: Well, I have brought some from Thank God, me and
Speaker 2: the four O A p s.
Speaker 3: Do you like that he was a fan?
Speaker 2: The thing is like, it's I don't know what to
Speaker 2: say in this situation because I am more and more
Speaker 2: like if somebody doesn't know who I am, I'm want
Speaker 2: to date with, Like how dare you not know who
Speaker 2: I am? But then also it's like I am actually
Speaker 2: like a bit you know, I thought that was sweet.
Speaker 2: The thing is about that is that makes me feel like,
Speaker 2: as a sort of people pleaser on dates. It makes
Speaker 2: me feel like, oh, well, this is fine then because
Speaker 2: even if this date like doesn't go well, like he's
Speaker 2: happy because he's met me. Yet at the last result,
Speaker 2: where's your respect?
Speaker 3: You're not allowed him without a respect?
Speaker 2: AAA? He had the AA pass for the hour in
Speaker 2: the golf course.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know I feel like for me,
Speaker 1: if anyone has seen me performing fantasy, firstly, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly like because also especially if you've seen like seance
Speaker 1: like the drag act I do, it's like have a
Speaker 1: clown fetish.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine like if I was a man watching
Speaker 2: you and a woman actually loads of women want to
Speaker 2: fuck you that you're very like attractive when you perform. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well thank you, let's should we wrap this outset? Well,
Speaker 2: I've got him, but I'm not sure if me because
Speaker 2: I'm like just talking about how much I hate everyone
Speaker 2: I've ever had sex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's hard, like because also, like if
Speaker 1: I'm doing like dance, stand up is very sexual and
Speaker 1: I often think, like, am I really over sexualizing myself
Speaker 1: like in this moment that makes people not attracted to
Speaker 1: me as much because I seem like a slot?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I No, definitely not that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't even border into that territory because
Speaker 2: it's not that. It's more you know, my problem has
Speaker 2: always been that people watch really stand up and they
Speaker 2: sexualize me too much, which annoys me. But I just
Speaker 2: now like met barely any man come and watch Redeo
Speaker 2: stand up. No man is ever going to be like
Speaker 2: my number one fam because I'm like, I've created myself
Speaker 2: to be someone that like women love, So it's never
Speaker 2: going to be someone who's like on the date because
Speaker 2: they like want to get a piece of like whatever
Speaker 2: it is I've got, because they're not my to target audience,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But then it did make
Speaker 2: me feel less badd for like the fact that I'd
Speaker 2: gotten this guy to like come on a podcast, Like
Speaker 2: I just felt less like bad about like the sort
Speaker 2: of like ask of it. And then I felt less
Speaker 2: because it was also like he'd taken the day off.
Speaker 2: What I mean, that's that's kind of stressful, Like that's
Speaker 2: a huge pressure shot. He worked in TV, he worked
Speaker 2: people died that day. What is my life?
Speaker 3: What? Sorry?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 3: What is my life? Sat here talking about your life?
Speaker 1: Going to like I didn't experience it myself, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about you experience it seem.
Speaker 2: Wait till we talk about yesterdays, say damn, because you
Speaker 2: know we went to a fucking Weatherspoons. I mean we
Speaker 2: went orph in Camden. Have you ever been to ice Worf?
Speaker 3: What the one by the on the canal? Baby we've
Speaker 3: all been there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to go.
Speaker 3: That's the only place that we go. The spits there.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: But ye, well that's because it's apparol spirits. Like it's
Speaker 2: very easy to be aperol spirits.
Speaker 1: Number one I'm saying is like to have an aperol
Speaker 1: spirits outside of Weatherspoons by Canal in Camden.
Speaker 2: Two crackheads fucking and like some pigeons on the floor.
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing you there. Okay, so was this
Speaker 1: state giving? Was it romance?
Speaker 2: The thing is that I actually thought he was a
Speaker 2: nice guy, and I appreciate that he took the day
Speaker 2: off of work to come and hang out with me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't appreciate it like that's most people
Speaker 2: would if they were given the opportunity. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 2: I actually would have liked to have done the sexual
Speaker 2: crazy golf with someone that I had some more like
Speaker 2: chemistry with. I know you hate activity based dates, so
Speaker 2: I won't be inviting you. Like it was actually fun
Speaker 2: and I would have liked to have been there with
Speaker 2: someone that I could have like sneakily done some fingering
Speaker 2: with in like the murder room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if there are any medical professionals out there listening
Speaker 1: to this. I need to figure out what is the
Speaker 1: mental disorder where someone has enjoyed themselves as sex based
Speaker 1: crazy golf day, because I think it's really specific, but
Speaker 1: I think it could be universal as well.
Speaker 3: Please get in touch and it.
Speaker 2: Could save lives. I think if we can find a definition.
Speaker 1: Because there are too many people going to a blood
Speaker 1: bathroom in a crazy so many.
Speaker 2: People living in a stigmatized situation where they feel shame.
Speaker 2: Next time on twenty eight Dates Later, I've been a
Speaker 2: serial relationship girls as I was like sixteen. That is crazy.
Speaker 4: So if there's anything I ever regret is that I
Speaker 4: didn't date more.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're making me not regretted.
Speaker 4: Around for me, I'm a savage.
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Speaker 2: is presented by me Grace Campbell with help from Roz
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