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Speaker 1: Novel.

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Speaker 2: This show contains adult material, references to drugs and swearing.

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Speaker 2: You have been warned.

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Speaker 3: Do you like that he was a fan? No?

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Speaker 2: I mean he'd taken the day off. What's kind of stressful,

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Speaker 2: Like that's a huge pressure.

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Speaker 3: He worked in TV, he worked, people died that day.

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Speaker 4: I'm a savage.

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Speaker 2: Are you bored of modern dating? Meeting the same people

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Speaker 2: from the same apps in the same bar You've only

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Speaker 2: chosen because it's close to your house and you can

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Speaker 2: make your usual quick getaway. It's time to change the

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Speaker 2: narrative on how we find love. It's time to start

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Speaker 2: looking for love in all the wrong places. I'm going

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Speaker 2: on a wild dating adventure, only picking people who were

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Speaker 2: the total opposite of my type. And after twenty eight

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Speaker 2: of these dates in two months, will I find that

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Speaker 2: special someone? Or Well, this experiment proved that I should

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Speaker 2: just give up on dating altogether. It's time to find out.

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Speaker 2: I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So this week, Dan, I went on a date with

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Speaker 2: someone called Harry who lived in Nottingham. This is when

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Speaker 2: I was on tour a few weeks ago, a.

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Speaker 1: Midland's boy exactly the milf a WMC West Midland.

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Speaker 3: Sele.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's you know, one step closer to me going

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Speaker 2: on a date.

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Speaker 3: With you really sharing me.

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Speaker 2: Now, we went to like a mini golf that was

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Speaker 2: sex themed, which was reallychic. Actually like I liked it.

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Speaker 2: There was like loads of dildos on the floor.

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Speaker 3: And is that not a drugsposition? Crazy golf and sex.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of an environment that's least sexual than

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Speaker 1: crazy golf.

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Speaker 2: I actually loved it.

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Speaker 3: But did it turn you on? No?

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Speaker 2: But I would have been turned on if I was

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Speaker 2: there was you know, someone that I wanted to find, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what, I can actually say that like I think

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Speaker 1: sometimes that anal sex experience is trying to knock a

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Speaker 1: ball through a windmill to try and get it into

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Speaker 1: a tiny hole.

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Speaker 2: That would have you would have felt really seen. I

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Speaker 2: think at this space I would have felt really represented.

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Speaker 3: I want to go because I'm sick of feeling invisible.

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Speaker 2: Yes exactly.

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Speaker 1: If it means I have to step into a sex themed,

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Speaker 1: crazy golf environment to be seen, I'm willing.

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Speaker 2: You would have felt really understood. I think especially by

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Speaker 2: the room that was just like it's just like there

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Speaker 2: was a room that was like blood everywhere. It was

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Speaker 2: like a butcher's Wow, Like, what I do you know?

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Speaker 2: Two people on Friday nights? This is like a sweety

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Speaker 2: tod's theme?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: I think that's a leg? That's a human leg? Wait?

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Speaker 3: How is that sexual?

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Speaker 2: I guess like murder.

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Speaker 1: Killing this pussy exactly murdered this bussy. Daddy murdered this

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Speaker 1: bussy murder sex. Wait, was that that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: Shakespeare quote?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was Shakespeare.

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Speaker 1: Yeah a fellow mmm now murderous dispussy Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Got the bar? Wait? Yeah, I mean the different rooms

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Speaker 3: and the different themes.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there was like loads. There was like one that

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Speaker 2: was like cocaine themed, which was just like, you know.

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Speaker 3: Random, Wait, how is a cocaine themed?

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Speaker 2: Did you get loads of coke like bags? And then

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Speaker 2: there was like a big white ic thing like the

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Speaker 2: Titanic thing?

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Speaker 3: But are people banging after doing as a coke? I

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Speaker 3: don't know if coke really helps me out.

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Speaker 2: People weren't fucking there, Dan, this is mad. Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: just for someone listening, there is a big vagina hole okay.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh look, oh look at my god. That's I

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Speaker 2: just got a hole in one in the pussy. Let

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Speaker 5: I don't think I never got a hold in one

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Speaker 5: of the It was.

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Speaker 2: Me and this man, and then the only other people

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Speaker 2: there were these four old women from Nottingham who were

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Speaker 2: like chain smokers. They gave me some of their drink,

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Speaker 2: which I probably shouldn't have had on reflection, because I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have been sharing germs with people like on my tour.

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Speaker 1: Oh fuck, you've.

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Speaker 4: Got both standard. I know, I'm really nervous. They look

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Speaker 4: really good. What is that name?

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Speaker 2: And let me say that I've.

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Speaker 4: Got that's so nice. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: It was such a weird combination. It was like some

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Speaker 2: kind of like cherry vodka with coke. And then I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, this is amazing. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to start drinking this all the time, obviously lying because

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Speaker 2: I just wanted these women to hang out of me

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Speaker 2: because it's quite bored on this day.

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Speaker 3: Right, that might be my new drink.

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Speaker 2: You know. That's really nice, well, so simple and everywhere

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Speaker 2: has those ingredients that every part has that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wish you're on a date with the

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Speaker 3: women more than the guy at this point.

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Speaker 2: I just I just feel in a lot of dating

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Speaker 2: situations if I'm on a date and I bump into

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Speaker 2: like a female friend or like even a fan, I

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Speaker 2: usually would rather be with that woman than with the

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Speaker 2: man that I'm with.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's always that woman who's like in the

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Speaker 1: bar and she's got like proxyblonte and she's wearing like

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Speaker 1: some kind of animal print. She's got way too much

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Speaker 1: mascara on. Like that's actually who I want to grow

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Speaker 1: up and be. Yeah, like if I can have exactly.

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Speaker 2: And it's like those are the women that, like when

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Speaker 2: you're on a really bad date, you get talking to

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Speaker 2: one of them and then you're like, save me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want the confidence of like a stepmom

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Speaker 3: and Paul.

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Speaker 2: I have never been on an activity date before this,

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest.

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Speaker 3: But what defines it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it means not just going for a drink, like

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Speaker 2: something that's like activity based. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how better I could explain it or articulate, and.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could probably do a better job.

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Speaker 2: Than activity, like an activity based date.

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Speaker 3: Activity from the Latin word the fact.

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Speaker 2: What you said earlier, like rock climbing for a hike.

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Speaker 3: What about a gallery?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an activity?

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Speaker 3: So are we talking more about like sports leaning.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're talking a gallery.

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Speaker 3: Never been to a gallery on a date?

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Speaker 2: No, I've been to a gallery with a boyfriend, but

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Speaker 2: I've never been on a date to a gallery. I

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Speaker 2: fucking hate.

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Speaker 3: Galleries people, No one likes galleries.

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Speaker 2: So why would I want to go on a date

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Speaker 2: to a gallery.

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Speaker 3: To get fingered by a money I've never.

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Speaker 2: Had sex in the gallery. Wow, No, I know, and

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Speaker 2: I've always outside.

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Speaker 3: What's that? Oh my god, they've all got pitchforks. I

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Speaker 3: gonna got fire and pitchforks. Get quick, get out. She's

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Speaker 3: never had sex in a gallery. That's why Lisa smiling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because she knows she's sucking. And Grace Campbell hasn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Smug bitch, Such a smug bitch.

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Speaker 3: Honestly though, is it even good? No?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's good.

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Speaker 3: Tiny good.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's good. But she's smiling, and she's

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Speaker 2: looking at us all.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, this stamp on the wall.

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Speaker 2: I know it's so far.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: She just looks very, very full of herself.

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Speaker 3: Just looks full of gas. That's a smirk to do

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Speaker 3: before you find.

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Speaker 2: She's got the ships.

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Speaker 1: If you want to make me sweat on a day,

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Speaker 1: I'm out. I ain't rock climbing. I ain't like, I ain't.

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Speaker 2: No, And also that's just very active to me if

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Speaker 2: you want to do that on a day. My parents,

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Speaker 2: so we go swimming at the lido like no where

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Speaker 2: we live, and there's a sauna and my dad was

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Speaker 2: much because he was like so confused by it. Then

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Speaker 2: the girl messaged me on Instagram and was like, your

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Speaker 2: dad really like made this situation very uncomfortable. Earlier I

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Speaker 2: was like, don't blame my dad for acting day at

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Speaker 3: Off watching you.

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Speaker 1: I was outside watching the Men in the woods fucking

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Speaker 3: It's a family business.

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Speaker 2: This guy wasn't like he was nice, you know, he

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Speaker 2: was a really sweet guy and he actually was a fan.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, at this point when.

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Speaker 5: I don't need like discovered who you were like a

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Speaker 5: couple of months ago, right, So.

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Speaker 2: You know I am love that. It's the first time

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Speaker 2: that someone's admitted it. So you're coming to my show?

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Speaker 5: There were tickets, but there are reason I didn't. So

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Speaker 5: I'm meant to be working today, right, okay, and I'm

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Speaker 3: So I found out bout this. I asked my bus.

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Speaker 5: I was like, can I just work from home?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, wow, wow, So your bunking work for this?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd taken the day off work so that he

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Speaker 3: That that's too much.

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Speaker 2: Well, say, for example, and you say, if I got

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Speaker 2: asked to go on a date with, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: someone I was obsessed with me, I would take the

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Speaker 2: day of work to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I tell you what I wouldn't be doing

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Speaker 1: traveling to note to go to a crazy golf you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I wouldn't be doing that, no

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Speaker 1: matter what theema cre the golf was. I'm just never

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Speaker 1: you want to firstly, you want to take me on

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Speaker 1: a date, and it's any kind of sport related thing,

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 2: Says golf for sport is ridiculous. Then what is it activity?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I saw recently this video where they've got like pillow

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Speaker 1: fighting championships. Have you seen that, Like people in the

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Speaker 1: wrestling ring with pillows, like bashing each other out.

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Speaker 2: But that's quite active crazy.

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Speaker 3: Golf is not very active mentally it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this was a very mentally simulating hour.

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Speaker 3: Of that's just the co crew.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have brought some from Thank God, me and

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Speaker 2: the four O A p s.

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Speaker 3: Do you like that he was a fan?

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Speaker 2: The thing is like, it's I don't know what to

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Speaker 2: say in this situation because I am more and more

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Speaker 2: like if somebody doesn't know who I am, I'm want

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Speaker 2: to date with, Like how dare you not know who

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Speaker 2: I am? But then also it's like I am actually

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Speaker 2: like a bit you know, I thought that was sweet.

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Speaker 2: where's your respect?

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Speaker 3: You're not allowed him without a respect?

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Speaker 2: AAA? He had the AA pass for the hour in

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know I feel like for me,

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine like if I was a man watching

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Speaker 2: fuck you that you're very like attractive when you perform. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've got him, but I'm not sure if me because

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Speaker 2: I'm like just talking about how much I hate everyone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's hard, like because also, like if

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I No, definitely not that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't even border into that territory because

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Speaker 2: my number one fam because I'm like, I've created myself

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Speaker 2: people died that day. What is my life?

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Speaker 3: What? Sorry?

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Speaker 4: Sorry?

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Speaker 3: What is my life? Sat here talking about your life?

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Speaker 1: Going to like I didn't experience it myself, I'm talking

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Speaker 2: Wait till we talk about yesterdays, say damn, because you

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Speaker 2: know we went to a fucking Weatherspoons. I mean we

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Speaker 2: went orph in Camden. Have you ever been to ice Worf?

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Speaker 3: What the one by the on the canal? Baby we've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to go.

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Speaker 3: That's the only place that we go. The spits there.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 2: But ye, well that's because it's apparol spirits. Like it's

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Speaker 2: very easy to be aperol spirits.

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Speaker 1: Number one I'm saying is like to have an aperol

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Speaker 2: Two crackheads fucking and like some pigeons on the floor.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing you there. Okay, so was this

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Speaker 1: state giving? Was it romance?

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Speaker 2: The thing is that I actually thought he was a

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't appreciate it like that's most people

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Speaker 2: I actually would have liked to have done the sexual

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Speaker 2: I won't be inviting you. Like it was actually fun

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if there are any medical professionals out there listening

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Speaker 3: Please get in touch and it.

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Speaker 2: Could save lives. I think if we can find a definition.

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Speaker 1: Because there are too many people going to a blood

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Speaker 2: People living in a stigmatized situation where they feel shame.

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Speaker 2: Next time on twenty eight Dates Later, I've been a

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Speaker 4: So if there's anything I ever regret is that I

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Speaker 4: didn't date more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're making me not regretted.

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Speaker 4: Around for me, I'm a savage.

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